Air Transat Flight 236 Miraculous Landing With Engine Fuel Leak | Mayday S1 EP6 | Wonder
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- An Air Transat Airbus begins to leak fuel over the Atlantic and must glide to safety. Can the pilots' expert skills save all 300 passengers on board?
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26:56 - The vast majority of people who were killed on the Ethiopian flight that crashed into the water, died because they inflated their lifejackets *BEFORE they exited the plane.* They became trapped inside the plane as it sunk and they drowned. If - by some infinitesimal odds - you are ever in a crash into water, remember to wait until you are completely out of the plane before inflating your lifejacket.
It’s baffling how they use that landing as an example of what could happen in such an incorrect way. Also kinda baffled at how no one else except you has pointed this out in the comments so thanks
Joe mama
@awesome guy I guess I’m going to watch that one too.
I am an ex cabin crew and you are right on point. Passengers inflate their lifejackets in panic eventhough they are told not to do until they leave the aircraft. Such as taking their belongings during emergency evacuations, delaying the evacuations and blocking traffic, though they are told not to do so.
@awesome guy You are correct. The hijackers actively fought him as he was trying to land the plane. And they didn't bother to buckle up...
It’s always a good sign when they interview a passenger or pilot.
😂
"Well, this isn't going to be COMPLETELY hopeless"
I agree 👌
Until you realize this episode was directed by an experimental theatrical director and all the persons interviewed died and are testifying from the grave and aren't aware they've died.
Watched the mid flight collision one and I already knew they all died but then they didn't interview the control guy and all I thought was "Oh no-"
If you want to know, Robert Piché is 70 today and Dirk De Jager is about to be 60. They are both alive and still living happily.
Captain Piché is now retired and a TV channel here aired a 20 years special about him and this story last year. They made him go into a simulator at the airport and re-created the conditions of the flight. He was still able to land the plane ! Since the accident, all aspiring pilots are obligated to train in these simulators with difficult conditions as these.
I like the man, he’s really humble. This incident made his old demons come back (ie alcohol) but he got through it !
Maybe he drinks out of guilt for not doing what he should have.
@@plane_guy6051 Well, he supposedly became sober 10 years ago so who knows 🤷🏻♀️But for sure he felt guilty. He went back to the same exact airport for this TV special and still 20 years later it made him cry. So who knows..It sure does seem to still haunt him, with reason
I can understand if he feels guilty. He ignored early warning signs. He should have executed emergency protocols on the 1st sign. But he dismissed it as a computer glitch.
Well he may be crying of joy because he and the others survived?
I reject the bs that it’s the crews fault anyway, they really put them through the ringer
I've seen so much of these documentaries that I think I can fly a boeing 747.
Hehehe
(Proceeds to go up in a ball of flames)
Wait, when you crash you are going down... Let me rephrase - (Proceeds to go down in flames)
Same lol
@@TakkudALT but fire goes up, so your original comment makes sense
The acting in most of these air disaster episodes are brilliant. Makes you feel like you're on the flight. Crazy.
I have to close my eyes its to dramatic to watch man
@@petemchardy619 I was on that plane. I survived
@@juanpedro4083 I smell 🧢
from what I've seen they often play it up quite a loooot. Especially since they will have scenes of reactions and such going on for much much longer than what it actually was in reality. I remember when I was a kid I was on a plane that did a short dive to avoid a midair collision on approach to an airport. There was about 3 to 5 seconds of panic with a couple people yelling/screaming and right after it was calm with a couple of people who were anxious or on the verge of passing out.
TBH it was kinda like when I was on a bus in high school years later and nearly got t-boned.
@Just Sludgy Thanks be to God
I always thank my pilots when leaving the plane. Just yesterday I thanked my Jet Blue pilots when we landed at JFK for the smoothest landing. We practically moonwalked down the runway. Didn't even feel the touch down. It's a big deal to fly hundreds of souls in a giant piece of metal in the air and get them down safely. ❤️
I try to do the same thing! I was once on a flight from Honolulu, HI to Dallas Fort Worth, TX in which the entire 300+ passengers on board actually gave a standing ovation to our flight crew when we landed safely on the runway because it was the worst turbulence you’d never want to experience and it lasted pretty much from take off until landing, which was a very long flight (13 hours if I remember correctly), so everyone was relieved when we finally landed and the terror was over because some of the turbulence caused major altitude drops in the process without warning which was a bit frightening even for a seasoned flyer like myself.
That’s the autopilot
@@mervinprone Takeoffs and landings (which are the most important parts) are done completely by the pilot
You mean you thank autopilot and engineers for doing their job
i noticed that everything that led up to this incident was as a result of a fear of not being on schedule, or fear of upsetting ones superiors at work. truly, if there was less focus on fast consumerism and we treated each other more like human beings rather than machines, these types of oversights would happen far less often. :(
100℅ ✅, dope!!!!!! The Capt!
Very well said. So incredibly sad..
I share your sentiments about this. Its like they would have rather had their lives at risk at over 30,000ft than been scorned at, safe and secure on ground. This says a lot about the treatment these guys go through and how priorities are set in the business. After all, it is exactly just that to some, business. The only thing that matters about you, I and our families, is the money we bring.
but? The stock price!
People who study these crashes study these things. It’s all that, and a dynamic where everyone is afraid to criticize the pilot. Sullenberger on the Hudson knew all these things, which is why he asked Skiles if he had any other ideas. If the copilot is afraid to say something they know and the pilot is too arrogant, apparently the plane crashes….
How did I become hooked on watching these sad crashes for the past 2 days? 💁
Same I just saw my first one which was 8969 heist and I’ve watched 12 mores since then
Worst I've only been on a plane twice to see my ailing birth father. I don't think you could get me a panda playing again after watching all of these things I'm hooked. One thing I don't see is what do they do about people who are on oxygen? I had a medical accident and my husband is putting off retiring because well I'm stuck on oxygen and it's not the small kind my stupid doctor killed my lungs basically so I have to have a heavy tank not a little machine that can be plugged in somewhere I haven't had the nerve to call an airline and ask. All of our dreams dashed because some little a****** decided he knew better than everyone else he was only 25 why didn't anybody else question what he was doing we did?
I’ve been doing it for dayssss now myself 🤣🤣
easy done kristina.
They are very addictive .
Those two pilots wearing sunglasses and preparing for an emergency landing at the break of dawn looked absolutely dope and heroic at the same time
Massive respect to the pilots who did not give up and stayed calm till the every end.
It’s all a reenactment
@@Noor-bd2gh Yes, I am aware. It's just that it looked dope :)
For some reason the flight crew refused to take part so we'll never know.
thanks for comment
@@titan4110 The flight crew did not refused to take part, they were told to keep their mouths shut because of lawsuits and bad reputation to the airliner.
This is one of my favourites. This glide holds the world record for the longest distance glided with an airliner, with the pilots and crew being calm and professional after disaster struck, and no deaths. I mean, the feat is truly impressive, even if it is quite avoidable (similarly: the Gimli glider). It was also lucky, that it was not a night landing, and weather was relatively clear.
It was a night landing. Witnesses said they could barely make out the plane when it land ex f. It’s in the report
I've been binging these episodes for about a week and it's good to finally see one where everybody survived!
Same with miracle on the hudson!
right
I keep looking to see which ones were survived. Those are the only ones that I watch. So stressful. 😬
I was the same until I encountered one from the Hawaii airlines where the top roof came off. One of the flight attendants flew out 😢. It was her 37th anniversary as a flight attendant
“If we land a plane with half a plane full of fuel we will be crucified.” This is exactly why some plane accidents happened because of pressure on pilots to keep the schedule. So many lives could be saved if more leeway is given to safety first.
I think he meant that the plane would end up being too heavy for landing and in result they would end up crashing and thus "crucified"
air france 477 from here, Rio, to Paris. THEY CHOOSE NOT to make a turn and skip that storm TO SAVE gas !!
It's more about declaring an emergency situation if no actual emergency condition exists.
@@CYPH3R3RR0R No he meant pressure for diverting without an actual issue. It's a real problem. Many planes have crashed due to such pressure.
That’s the sad part. What makes it worse they try and find some way to put the blame on the cockpit crew.
You can tell the first officer was good in math
5 out of 4 people are bad at math
Yes, he can multiply and divide......
Hindsight a wonderful thing? True the 2and officer must have been working flat out. I'm not a pilot. I'm a long haul truck driver, brakes on fire ectra. I recommend though, a book, called " Fate is the Hunter "Ernest Gann, DC 2 Dakota's still have it, all true.
Once read you wontforget it an apprenticeship in flying,
and the other one thinks he is smart
What they keep forgetting is that the Ethiopian airliner pilots were in a physical fight with highjackers during that attempted landing. Things could have possibly turned out differently, plus the engine hit a reef.
Holy c ap!
You do have a good point
What? For real?
I never heard it hit a reef. I didn't know that. Thanks for the info.
@@emperialGal Yes, they were hijacked and the hijackers wanted to go to Australia and the captain told them they didn't have enough fuel to make Australia but they insisted on it. Fortunately, both hijackers were killed in the crash.
Shout out to the captain for making decisions based on the readings, even if he believed it was just a computer error at first. It's that kind of better-safe-than-sorry action that make air disasters like this one not have steeper death tolls.
“Cost to much to delay,” how many times has this type of thinking cost in human misery.
exactly. life is more important than a little money.
Too many
Thinking about cost. Can 250,000$ Can buy the lives of those passengers
well i mean.. it's just the actor we can't know what the actual pilot is like
Just ask the challenger shuttle cre- wait you can't BECAUSE THERE DEAD
Good thing I wasn't the co-pilot. My math skills are atrocious.
😂😂
Well of you were you would have to be trained to do that math
Changed the way that I view mathematics
@@alib3148 same honestly
@@coolcapricorn3248 lol
This Captain is calm like as if he does this every Sunday as a recreational activity, massive respect 🫡
that captain and first officer are absolutely incredible !! The skill they had to control that aircraft and safely land it is uncanny. They should be so proud of themselves for achieving that landing
Yea well… the captain dismissed the error multiple multiple times. He could have prevented some of the danger but he was in denial.
@@AriKhuu I was about to say, a lot of praise for the pilots but lets be completely honest here lol. Great job bringing the plane in, terrible job assessing the situation and ignoring multiple warning signs.
@@robertl955 Hindsight is the best sight.
The actors portraying the pilots HAVE to have some sort of cockpit experience. They are always so convincing.
The director speak what he needs to do
they get to use a big simulator for a bunch of these videos they probably get some time to play around with it
Yes. They have phenomenal imagination skills. They completely put their minds in such a situation. For them it’s reality.
I know the actor who plays the captain (Guy Richer) and I can assure you it's not the case.... This is why they called actors! loll
Are these videos fake?
I'm still wondering what I'm supposed to do with all of these aviation knowledge I've gathered through watching so much of these 😂
FLY!!... They need pilots these days.
Play Flight Simulator…
Or, be an Aviation Mechanical Engineer.
Right !! 😭😭😭...it kinda makes me wana be a air traffic controller because there's no way in hell id ever be a pilot
@@briannaw716 I had a roommate that was training to be an ATC; she talked in her sleep to her Snoopy pillow😳 she was stressed.
Interesting how two of the most famous commercial airliners that landed safely without engines and without loss of life were both piloted by Canadians, both have the same initials, the same first name and both born in the same province, Quebec, Robert Piche from Air Transit Flight 236 and Robert Pearson from Air Canada Flight 143. Very strange if you ask me but also very cool.
What about Captian Sullinger. He landed an A320 in the Hudson river and in this very episode they talk about how they think thats not really possible. But he did it with no engines and no death
both airlines started with 'air' which is normal but still somewhat a coincidence
@@supermccnasty4176 US Airways 1549, piloted by Chelsey Sullenberger, happened in 2009, so after this episode was published.
@@supermccnasty4176 That wasn't a glider - they had engine failure - lots of instances of that. Also, the two Canadian flights flew as gliders for substantial distances and times.
@@supermccnasty4176 oh god🤣🤣🤣
“Do i think he’s a hero? No. Do i think he’s a hell of a pilot? Yes.” Love his attitude and honesty lol
Man where you coming from he's a hero and a great pilot. Thumbs down to you.
@@bryanshaddinger6538 first of all, i’m not a man. And secondly, you realize i was just quoting what one of the passengers said, right? It doesn’t mean i’m agreeing nor disagreeing with his words lol i just said i like his honesty
Great quote from the passenger
Agree
How old are you 12 or 14 30 20 💀😭
One thing you need to remember about that Ethopian Airline crash is that the captain was wrestling with the hijackers for control as he attempted to make the landing on water.. Perhaps if he wasn't under all that pressure.. then it may have been a different outcome ( like that of hudson river ).
Yup, he hit the water at quite a bank angle. The left engine hit the water first and spun the plane around causing more damage. If he had been able to keep the plane level there's a decent chance the outcome would have been very different.
Not one plane landing on water has a good outcome because of being on an ocean instead of a river. You don't watch enough of these
@@cannaweallgetalong7168 more could have survived if they hadn't inflated their life jackets before impact.
@@cannaweallgetalong7168 Bro, you forgotten the US Airways landing on Hudson River. On another note, I'm having trouble understanding your sentence. Ocean landing are not as smooth as river landing because waves alone are already a threat, the salinity of the seawater adds risk on top of rowdy seas. Not to mention if you land at sea chances are you're far from civilization and hardly accessible.
from what I understand, the captain attempted to land as close to the beach as possible while being parallel to the waves for a smoother landing. Had he gone straight on, he may have been too high and gone directly into people on the beach, or the waves would've broke the plane and send debris towards the beach. Unfortunately, whether it was the hijackers distracting the pilots, or misjudging how long it would take to level the plane from a turn that low without power, the left wing caught the water and everything went wrong from there.
I find this rather comforting, actually. Even if your plane loses all engines, you can survive as long as the parts that make it controllable are mostly intact.
And as long as your flight crew have excellent skills...
And you land on water or a very smooth, flat surface.
@@anniinthewoods8287 me neither... just learned about it now.
@@oinkoink4407 amazing.. a lot of people don't have any clue how a plane can fly..
But you forgot about the fuel, if your plane is without it it will eventually go down!
This is the BEST PLANE DOCUMENTARY. To glide that FAR MUST take skill skill the flight crew are like JORDAN AND PIPPEN, KIRK AND SPOCK.
"We have a problem with the oil readings for our right engine, can you help us?"
"Have you tried turning the plane off and on again?"
I really believe the pilot and the first officer did a wonderful life saving landing. Thank goodness the first officer was excellent in math. They are all heroes in landing the plane and all passengers and personnel survived.
Agreed. Math skills he has..., me I would probably bring the plane to ashes lol.
Jesus had mercy on them
I think it was more the captain being an experienced glider pilot (oh and this was human skill, and human skill only)
@@glow1815 i'd probably bring it into the water
Of course he is excellent in Math, it is a requisite.
Ah, I remember this.
Yes, the pilot made a very critical error by either forgetting or simply neglecting to close the crossfeed after a fuel leak became evident or suspected but the subsequent flight and landing was an absolute masterclass in aviation.
Gotta love Airbus though for solely blaming the pilots then quietly changing their guidelines for identifying a fuel leak.
Airbus did a lot better that Boeing with the 737 MAX... i mean ffs talk about criminal actions right there
You'd think common sense would dictate a gas gauge.
The pilots were 100% at fault. They should have assumed a fuel leak much sooner, not ignored several warnings, and been just fine making emergency landing on 1 engine. If a wing is losing large amounts of fuel, obviously a fuel leak is likely, and there is an explicit warning about the crossfeed. Even without a warning, basic common sense is not throw more fuel at a leak.
@@xeridea 100%? maybe a percentage sure.. but when you effectively 'damage' the the plane and than send it in the air - it is literally impossible for it to be '100% the pilots fault. Also sorry but I also don't care about whom Air Bus would like to blame (Because it will be anyone but themselves). Also 'basic common sense' my goodness hindsight is a grand thing.
They weren't aware of the engine vibration causing a fuel leak. TS had used an older model of the Trent 700 on this plane that shouldn't have been used. They actually took on more fuel than required.
"Air Transat blamed the captain and Co - Pilot for fuel leak!!!" .. Absolute madness
Had the company followed all maintenance procedures,Fuel wouldn't have leaked
Kudos to the duo👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
The passengers owe you their lives
It seems these airlines almost always try to hang the ones flying it.
It was not Air Transat who blamed the pilots. That was Airbus who blamed the pilots.
@@unconventionalideas5683 Doesn't matter, they were blamed for something that neither of them caused... And the fact that they DID manage to land the plane regardless of their choices is just insulting to the pilots~
@@MiyashiruX They were blamed - and justifiably - for making a bad problem significantly worse by leaving the cross-feed valve open without checking to see if the fuel levels were actually balancing out as they were supposed to. Not only did that directly violate the procedure they were supposed to be following, which says to check for fuel leaks and close the valve if one is suspected, but the plane would've been gliding for a lot less time, if at all, had they at any point closed the valve. They kept losing fuel only because they kept pumping it into the right wing tank, which then led to it getting pumped out via the broken hose. If they let it drain, then the right engine would've shut down, but they could keep flying on the left one.
Moreover, this is the only Mayday episode to date where flight crew survived, but have all refused to be interviewed. That should tell you something about how the crew feels about their own role in this incident with hindsight.
@@GintaPPE1000 in fairness this was season 1 and only about a year after the incident, heck the Portuguese didnt even release there report until 2004, i can totally get people who might have busy lives declining to be interviewed for show. also the investigators as well declined so idk
that aside though, yes the pilots do deserve fault for this, but i wouldnt argue they are entirely to blame, it was a confusing situation to be in, and visual checks (abiet inherently useless ones because it was the middle of the night) did not confirm the fuel leak. they deffo should have cut off the cross fuel after no 2 flamed out though as that should have told them beyond doubt they had a fuel leak.
that said, least they glided her into a landing safely
This two amazing pilot are definitely heroes, the captain positive attitude and very calm approached in this situation helped his First officer to stayed focus and calm too. Thank God for pilots like these. I could have imagine how scary it must have been to everyone on board this flight especially those children. Love watching planes that survived and no fatalities at the end.
Angels were there for them
Pilot error was part of the reason this happened. Nevertheless they saved everyone on board.
The pilots did everything right from the moment they decided to declare a Mayday Fuel on, up to the amazing glide and landing at Azores... the pilots had questionable judgement and mindset prior the fuel problem escalated, contributing with their decision making to the total fuel starvation, which put them in a much more dangerous situation than the loss of the right engine and the right fuel tanks... the pilots thinking the issue was merely a faulty instrument reading falls as a very questionable judment, specially from the moment they opened the X-fed valve and saw that the situation was not fixed, showing a big deal of confirmation bias in their decision making.
Both would likely reject being called "heroes". (Generally speaking, heroes are people who willingly put their own lives at risk to save others' lives. This was obviously not the case here -- they had no choice -- they could not have bailed out and left the passengers to their own devices). If they are to be classed as heroes, literally everyone who becomes an airline pilot is a hero for becoming a pilot.
Of course we all can have our own definition of what a hero is
They were both good pilots doing their jobs well. And with some very good fortune it all ended well. If the plane had lost power just ten miles earlier there would have been a great many deaths -- jet airliners historically do not ditch well either on land or on water. (FI, if the plane had not been rerouted due to congestion, more than likely all those people would have lost their lives).
As the title indicated, it could be called a "miracle". But the pilots really did not cause the miracle. It was more a chain of unfortunate, and then fortunate random events, and the pilots were really just along for the ride.
@@37rainman
although one should say that for instance as a pilot if you ditch the airplane you will be the last one to get out of the airplane usually, just like the captain of a ship, that requires heroism. in general (Although not always) people who are ready to become pilots or other high risk occupations def need that heroic mindset.
Glad the pilots where rewarded with honours, they absolutely deserve them for landing and getting that plane on the ground with no lives lost
I cant really agree with that.. Anyone with thinking of their own knows pilots decisions were irrational, because of that they lost all the fuel and were forced to land in a way that could have ended in a catastrophe.. They were lucky the landing went as smooth as it did, if they were further away from the airport, the earlier decisions they made would have costed them their lives.. Thats the principle which matters in this case, not the outcome
Except for the part where they had two symptoms of a fuel leak and then decided to assume there was no fuel leak? And then PUMPED fuel straight overboard for 15 minutes before attempting to calculate whether there was any problem!
I would think at the very least, upon suspicion of a fuel leak, they should calculate the rate they're losing fuel at!
@@thewhitefalcon8539 Exactly! 😑
@@NotEvenDeathCanSaveU we have hater here everybody
@@thewhitefalcon8539 hater
I used to work for Transat as a Flight Attendant. We were not allowed to speak with media. Some people made comments about the flight attendants crying. That is because during training, you are basically told that when you ditch, you die. You are shown videos to ensure that you really know the possible situations you may encounter., which also weeds out anyone who can't handle it. As well, there is a flight only of employees where they subject you to G forces as much as one of the big Lockheeds could handle, and if you get sick, you're pretty much going home. Then missed approach etc. That is also why Sully's landing on the Hudson was so incredible. I recall when this happened, I was not working that day, but had a colleague tell me about it, and then also when this episode first was aired. When you know that you could easily have been one of the FA's on board, it gives you chills.... as my very first flight was to Ponta Delgada, on the Airbus, with Cpt Piche flying...
Yes, thank you Sharla for sharing this. It is about how much money is being lost whilst a plane is incapacitated for whatever reason. Then damage control atf.
Looks like they were X feeding into the leaking engine, but on the other hand they initially followed airbus’s protocol. If they let that engine flame out they could have continued safely on one engine. It’s a remarkable story!
Interesting, PDL was a regular destination at the time which means the pilots were familiar with the area? The accident investigation report included the set of aeronautical charts for "Terceira, Lajes" used by the pilots, it was from Air Canada‘s “route manual” and licensed for use by Canada 3000. Lajes was one of the regular ETOPS diversion airfields on the route to Lisbon, and is apparently not a military-only air base (anymore?). Recently a TAP Portugal A321neo coincidentally headed for Toronto landed for a refuelling stopover, I suppose.
Gotta love when they said "small mistake".
It's not a mistake. It's deliberately putting costs over lives, it amazes me how many accidents happen in aviation due to cutting costs even in the smallest ways.
That's why I never wanted to be a pilot because there are so many people involved with aircrafts, and then by the end, a pilot is the one who must ultimately pay for all of their small mistakes with his life, not to mention passengers too.
@@acr98disc Or her life...
@@acr98disc you can fly general aviation planes
@joey8435
There is no point for me for this now.
@@rhamlet5290
A woman never deserves it for this.
Such a terrifying event I couldn't even imagine. However I do believe the first officer was much more on point and suspected something more serious was going on. Once they realized the severity then they knew what had to be done. This was truly miraculous intervention.
You do know this is a recreation, there were no interviews or anything. They’re just going off what they believe happened.
I love how they deploy that little propeller to run the plane, made me laugh.
Hahahahaha
APU
I think they should have given that propeller an award don’t you??? Love these !
If it works, dont fix it right? Its a backup for a reason.
@@mikefoehr235 ram air turbine
Smart co-pilot. Obviously a math geek. Flights like this clearly need a third flight officer like back in the DC10 days.
Maybe add a computer engineer.. sounds like a safe bet..
$$$ people don't like spending that much to fly. This isnt the days of the first jumbo jets with like 6 or 8 people in cockpit
Just finished watching the episode of the engineer that tried to commit suicide by crashing a fed ex jet. He's the reason you don't have a third
@@n7meg The reason we don't have a third is because of automation. But yeah we can pretend.
@@claudeyaz That's too bad. We should just deal it.
My son has to fly several times a year to see his dad…watching so many of these has given me a strange sense of peace about letting him fly. Yes, even after watching the crashes with no survivors. I think part of it is knowing so many of these pilots are doing everything they possibly can after errors or malfunctions are realized, and the other part is knowing that we learn and attempt to do better for future flights and passengers.
Watching air crash documentaries with my parents growing up had the opposite effect on me. After seeing the tiny things that can cause a plane partially led to my fear of flying above the clouds.
This video identified the other reason that I didn’t know until now. The lack of control and hoping the pilots can save us. I’d never want that ever. I’d want to be in the cockpit flying it myself as a trained pilot. I’d want to fight to survive.
@@mikoto7693 I totally understand that and I thought that’s where my thoughts would be after watching. No doubt it’s gotta be some sort of coping mechanism my brain is using, since I have no choice about my son flying across the county to his dads several times a year ☹️
I fly twice a month for work and watch these pretty much every flight haha. Have gotten some funny looks.
I feel the same way as a regular passenger and I have never been able to put my finger on exactly why. I think in part it is just having a better understanding of aviation in general gives me a sense of what is happening on the plane at any given time. I can feel them changing the power settings, feel the turns, moving the flaps and gear etc and I know things are going normally. It gives me a little big of feeling of control like riding in a car when someone else is driving (except my ex-wife haha). I know what the driver is doing so I am less worried.
I know deep down that fear of flying is really irrational as there are thousands of flights just in the US every day without incident so the fear for me is more about not being in control.
Then you probably haven't seen the many many cases of total incompetence and massive failures by some pilots who got everyone killed. I mean good for you that you feel better concerning your son flying, but I'm sure as hell never flying again in my life!
The Captain motioning for the lead flight attendant to join him and the F/O in the press conference photo says a lot. That’s somebody who sees himself as a member of a team - yes, he’s the leader, but he knows it takes all of them to accomplish a mission.
I landed in a big plane in the Azores but due to a passenger having a heart attack or something similar. He survived because they informed us on the second leg of the trip. This was 40 years ago, I was 17. It was surrealistic because the doors opened and into the plane start jumping baseball players in uniform. Turns out the medical baseball team was playing on the field and came to the rescue dressed as they were. I perfectly remember that cliff at the end of the runway; as if I had looked at it yesterday.
Wow, that's quite a memory. Thanks for sharing. It must have been otherworldly to expect medical personnel and get baseball players running in.
@@brianarbenz1329 it was like a dream…. :)
51:08 That second-to-last guy nails it: "Do I think he's a hero? No. Do I think he's a hell of a pilot? YES." It sure seems that the pilot made some serious errors (like not shutting off crossfeed when the problem continued to get worse or even after one engine flamed out). But that's some amazing skill being able to glide and land that thing in one piece.
That guy summarized this entire episode moral.
Exactly! 👏🏻
Exactly. Nailed the whole situation in a couple sentences!
And I don't hear anything in the movie about starting the APU, does this plane have no APU?? Why just a RAM?
@@BXgek The Airbus A330 does have an APU, which like the main engines, runs off fuel from the main fuel tanks. NO FUEL = NO APU (or main engines). See Air Canada Flight 143 (Gimli Glider) a Boeing 767 which also ran out of fuel (in 1983). Also in this case, the 767's Ram Air Turbine was deployed and enabled the pilots to land the plane and save every life onboard.
These pilots is amazing. Even though,they made some errors some said, but in the end the fact they landed safely and saving around more than 300 passengers lives in one faithful day. Respect to the both pilots and the crews.
The fact that I will never be as cool as that captain with his sunglasses haunts me.
The captain: "I don't think these airplanes(a330s) would make a good boat"
...well said my man, well said
I was actually stationed there and watching as they landed, no - slammed into our runway. It really was a miracle. They were so lucky by so many factors - even fully functioning pilots have a tricky time there with the extreme winds and low visibility most of the time.
So why did engine one cut too? did they forget to stop the fuel transfer until it fuel was completely gone from the aircraft????
@@connorawalsh Your question was answered in the video. Yes, the crossfeeding was never closed. Why it wasn't closed is still unclear. Can only speculate if it was the stress that simply made them forget about it or if it was on purpose to get the engines running for as long as possible because they did not know where exactly the leak was or if it was because in no instruction was it stated to close the crossfeeding once it was open... your guess is as good as any other.
did they have to scrap the airplane due to rough landing?
@@circuitdotlt not sure, I was just one of the grunts that had to get the runway back in shape lol
@@BlazingDrag00n Probably why the pilots and airline representatives refused to participate 😉 In these situations there's usually a very thin line between ending up as a tragedian or a hero...
A saw this video report three times in various YT channels and each time I have tears in my eyes. This captain together with his first officer and crew staff, saved over 300 passengers and the captain in particular, deserves a huge hug !!! What a man :)
The crew did a really magnificent job.
except for not closing the crossfill after discovering that they keep losing fuel...
@@Duphe They didn't believe or trust the plane's computers.
@@marciadiehl5733 that does not make sense. either they trust the computer and refill the wing or they dont trust the computer then they dont need to refill the wing. they were assuming too much and basically throwing away all their fuel.
@@Duphe I agree with you. It doesn't make sense. I was only repeating their excuse given in the film.
@@Duphe confirmation bias after all we are humans
“This is what happens when an airliner attempts a controlled ditching on the water.”
Captain Sully: *Hold my airplane*
God: No Sully, I got a few birds stuck in it, I’m not gonna hold it, Imma gonna drop it. You can figure out where it drops.
Sully's plane had just taken off from the airport. It was at low altitude and low speed, and ditched in calm river waters, so you cannot compare that to a plane gliding down from 12,000 meters that could've hit the freaking ocean. If this plane hadn't reached the airfield, it would've hit the water much faster than Sully's plane.
they call him Captain Knowsitall
he is so eloquent
perfection is his middle name
and whatever rhymes with eloquent
@@Lucas_Tulic just slow down the plane 4head
Landing on a river where the water is totally flat is very different than landing on the ocean.
I can't imagine the trauma these people endured. Landing in the Azores meant that they'd have to fly to get home. Then, a month later, 9/11/2001 happened. I don't know how any of them managed to get on another plane ever again.
Wasnt even two weeks later, some of them might not of gotten home by then
Oops saw 28th at some point, see now it was the 24th.
Yes you are right. One passenger wanted to return to Canada by crossing the ocean in a kayak, but was eaten by sharks.
_.
@@beeman1246...sure, lol
I was actually terrified to fly across the Atlantic in 2005 because of this flight. I did it and it was worth it (even with being 16 hours in the sky..) I love flying now. Hats off to passionate and committed pilots.
I have only flown over the Atlantic once and that was in a C130 military prop plane. It flies at a lower altitude, with pressurized cabin, but what is interesting is at the back, were the ramp is. One have a huge metal square cage for our luggage. The reason it is in a specialized box at the back and close to the ramp isnt because of seating, but because if there are engine problems or whatever. They will lower the ramp and eject the box with luggage for 25 people. On such a flight you need to use ear protection because of the loudness of the engines. Much more than a passenger jet. There you are mostly in your own head watching people around you and that gigantic cage at the back that is only there, like that, in case of problems and needing to ditch in the mid Atlantic. LoL
Alaska Airlines Flight 261 was redone in the most recent season, despite being done in Season 1. I'd love to see this one redone, with all the information available from the final report. Much of it substantially diverges from what is depicted here. For example, the situation deteriorated far, far, more quickly than what is depicted here. Also, the pilots knew they were in massive trouble well before even the failure of the first (right) engine. They prepared for a ditching at 6:01 am, 12 minutes before the right engine failed.
Also, the investigation was not completed when the episode was released
I totally agree, and the fact that none of the management involved (including the investigative organizations...which I thought were government and accountable to the media but whatever) participated in this episode almost demands a second look.
@@bernlin2000 I wonder if the reason none of the officials from the investigative organisations were interviewed might be because the investigation was still ongoing.
It’s always reassuring when you get interviews from the passengers
It's kind of a spoiler tbh.
Kurisu is never wrong
The 5 minutes in the spotlight when everyone becomes an expert LOL
@@tinman3747 puyu ppu
I just specifically chose this one because of "miracle" in the name. Just binged like 3 with no survivors, need some souls to make it this time
The tires bursting probably is what saved them by adding massive friction to the roll.
That and the wheel rims plowing into the tarmac (which got destroyed and put the runway out of service for a few days) helped as well.
Do you know how much those tires cost?
@@johng669 You know how much those human lives cost?
@@SisuTheShattered I'm sorry . I just love planes so much. I'm glad everybody survived.
@@johng669 My favorite is the Convair B36, so I feel you. I apologize if my reply came off a little harsh, but I'm glad you were able to recognize my point. Airplanes parts, while expensive, are replaceable. Humans... we're fragile
As a Portuguese, who often used Air Transat, and still do, truly never forget these things. Wish they got actual Portuguese Passengers on the episode 🤷
This is my favourite episode of Air crash investigations the pilots did a great job in landing the plane with severe stress apon them , losing 2 engines while flying above the ocean is not an easy task to deal with .
Thug life moment @ 30:57
Narrator: "There is no room for error, without power the pilots have only one chance for landing."
Pilots: *puts on sunglasses* 😎
“We’re diverting to the Azores, we got an empty tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it’s dark…and we’re wearing sunglasses.”
“Hit it.”
@@pvanpelt1 "We're on a mission, From God."
26:08 “I don’t think these airplanes will make very good boats.”
-Sully Sullenberger “Hold my coffee”.
First of all sully was flying a A320, Not a A330. Plus landing on a ocean is different then a river. And the Hudson River miracle happened 8 years later
“ hold my airbus “
Wow! 75 mile glide of a plane almost the size of a Boeing 747 INCREDIBLE
Good chemistry between the co - pilot and the captain. Co - pilot was very great during the entire journey.
Yes, it was a chain of events, but it started with "it would be too expensive to do the right/safe thing"!
LIKE YOUR NAME.
Almost always does sadly
Capitalism strikes again
This captain was just the coolest cat who ever lived. You got to love him.
I believe there was a movie made about him
The ppls lifes, who he put in danger, bc he just didn't want to rely on the monitor or any warning that was obvious, must love him as well..
you mean the co-pilot
wait ... an idiot who wrongfully puts peoples lives in danger should then be praised because the people did not die???
The captain was a moron
This was The Hand of God working through men, to get these people down safely!
Eh no, just no. It’s called training and experience.
Captain and the first officer, Heroes!!👌👌
"mistake"? That was no mistake. That was saving a couple of dollars at the expense of safety.
thats sadly a very very common thing in aviation
the cost was actually the out of service of the plane, but your point still stands
@@mrdoggy8801 naming your TH-cam account after you favourite sexual position, NICE! 👍
@@jacobsaccount9353 have you ever heard of an animal called a "dog" ?
Cash before lives....the ultimate greed!
Truly one of the most terrifying experiences I can imagine: at least an explosive decompression would cause an adrenaline rush. But to have the entire plane lose power and to not hear the engines running when you're 30,000 feet in the air? Just horrifying.
Haha, that's probably true, but personally I would have been more afraid of an explotion due to what the damage could do to the aircraft structure and the control systems of the plane, which damaged can be unrecoverable! Luckily many planes are designed to cope on one working engine, and pilots are spesifically trained for varoius complications during flight, like engine loss. Both engine failing will definitely shrink the time frame of finding a place to land, but it should not prevent the plane from being airborn itself, given a slight steady descent that would encreas enough speed for the aircraft to updrift its wings. Being that many feet above ground definitely gives the pilots prescious time adrift, searching for problemsolving solutions, as well as notifying the ground to ensure the best possible choices moving forward, and preparing the emergency department(s) for safety precations. There are scenarois were the probable outcome would be way worse than this one. Luckily it happened where they where, and good thing significant failiures don't play out that often.
Happened once to me over Russia en route to Hong Kong with Cathay Pacific. I got no idea of what the problem was, but we went around 5 minutes with the engines shut down (or at idle). Then they stated up again and we went to Hong Kong as planned. Still, the plane becomes SOOOOO silent without them engines running...
Just horrifying? Shouldn't be!
A 747 can glide! And they have!
With an experienced pilot running things a plane is able to glide smoothly, for great distances! A plane doesn't just drop like a rock to the ground!
And if you get so anxious, you won't be able to follow instructions or make good decisions when evacuating from the plane!!!
Keeping your wits is a huge help in your survival!!!
Sweet holy mercy that backup propeller is brilliant.
But I think this episode highlights why I fear flying like I do. I finally know the reason for it. The lack of control. I can do nothing but wait and hope the pilots can get us out. I’d want to be fighting for my life. I’d want to be the pilot trained to fly.
@@mikoto7693 you are not in control in any public transit and your odds of driving an auto and crashing are 1000% higher. Are you 12 years old?
The expert pilot that they brought in to talk about conditions on board was great!
This captain is not human. this man is build different 😮
They had clear weather, that was an added blessing and advantage.
I'm addicted to watching these plane crash documentaries. Yet I'm not scared of being on a plane again
same
Same here
I think these are a good thing for people to see. Every single airline/policy/agency exists because of issues like this. All our planes are safer today because of these crashes. It does make me happy I didn’t fly in the 70s-90s tho! 😵💫
Personally, if it’s a big enough scandal to be made into a TV show, it’s probably not gonna happen again. Because planes can kill up to 500+ passengers at a time and many of them are different nationalities, a plane crash is definitely the more outcried catastrophe, like more people die from car crashes in a year than plane crashes yet we don’t have tv shows about “the 4 wheeler killing 6 pedestrians”
That’s my reasoning for not being scared of flying. Maybe also the fact I’m of an aviation family
Me too
Two pilots are very calm and cooperative, which save all lives, great achievement. They are great.
Me when my engineering calculations fail: "It must be the computer"
We should never praise the lead pilot, he kept delaying declaring an emergency. He ignored the indicators, calling it computer glitch. .... why the hell we have indicators if you aren't gonna use it...... how can he kept denying there can't be a fuel leak....
@@Songs-lr4wt What if it was
@@matthewh2941 whatifism
@@Songs-lr4wt Anomalous indications that have never been heard of, seen before, and are not explained in the aircraft manuals....of course he questioned it. Even AirTran maintenance didn't have a clue. And neither do you.
@@Songs-lr4wt you know that ecam error messages are quite normal and freaking out because of one does not help.
When the first warning came, they were beyond the etops midway point, so they could not return anymore and had to continue anyways.
Also declaring an emergency would not have helped at the time he waited, they already were flying to the closest airport and declaring the emergency would not have speeded up anything, so he waited. Declaring an emergency is important if it helps speed up matters, like in a congested airspace where you get priority but not here.
Standing ovation!! I like when the Capt said, "It's all about all those passengers." How did he glide such a heavy plane so long and perfectly onto the runway? No gas. No engines. He kept the nose perfect. Wow. Do you know how many maintenance workers are responsible for crashes? For whatever reason. My uncle maintained major planes and he was a drunk. We had to report him!
Well done to you.. what a really brave but correct comment. You saved lives .. Thank You x
❤❤❤❤❤👏👏👏👏👏👏All my heart for you and your family for your good example and atitude!
The pilot was also an experienced glider pilot, I think. So not out of his ballpark!
is running out of gas emergency? why not jus roll to a stop?
@@thhomasmarks LMAO! Good answer. LoL!
I have lost count of the military battles that were lost because the generals didn't believe the data. Got lucky on this one. Thanks for the great video.
The things you learn about planes in these documentaries makes you feel like an pilot
The one senior Pilot best summary was correct.......
A series of events almost caused a crash, but a series of events also saved the day ‼️👌🇨🇦
Good teamwork showed by the Captain and the co pilot. They saved lives of 300 people. Doesn't matter they could have handled it in better way earlier because this we can say when we are here on ground. It were those pilots who were in 39000 ft in the air, facing challenges in extreme pressure.
Absolutely bro..
It is to say or Comment, being on the ground. Equally skill needed when you are 39000Ft..
Truly said bro...
The pilots are responsible for the safety of passengers and airplanes. Also responsible for flying time, efficiency of the flight and navigating between computer sensor readings, error messages, and prior experiences. It is not an enviable position to be.
Conflicting requirements and human error also plays role.
We shouldn't be so quick to blaming the pilots.
I mean, it does matter that they could have prevented the crisis by either not doing the crossfeed, doing the crossfeed properly (as in, not keeping it on for more than a few minutes), or just not leaving the crossfeed on literally the entire time even after they KNEW they had a fuel leak. Still, they handled the emergency very well aside from that.
Yes of course it matters, as they pointed out on the show, if they hadn't been redirected they would all be dead in the ocean right now. It was just luck.
@@Preservestlandry You call it luck; I call it a miracle, and I thank GOD for the experience and judgment of the crew, who safely glided that plane to a safe landing. 💛👍🏾👏
the captain seemed like a cool dude. he saved 300 people and then was just chilling at the press conference
I can't imagine the effort it takes to learn that level of self control to keep calm and do so many necessary steps and trouble shoot ect..when your own life is at risk. Takes a remarkable person and great skill I believe.
I’ll never in my life forget the feeling of hearing no engines running in an airplane. I had an experience in the mid 2000’s flying to Austin Tx. from California, our landing gear wasn’t working right and they cut the engines before decent for around 45 min. I remember talking to the passenger beside me and he was equally freaking out inside. I kept looking out and just saw the ground getting closer (we were still very far from the ground though) Eventually the started the engines back up and we landed. It was a very fast and bumpy landing and their were rows of fire trucks and emergency vehicles waiting on the runway. Thank GOD nothing happened 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 Scariest flight of my LIFE!
I feel you. I was coming home from the service one time in the middle of winter. We were ready to land and as we were almost landing, I found out later that visibility was like zero and the pilot took the plane back up it felt like we were straight up and down and the G force was freaking nuts. Scared the heck out of me and I try not to fly unless it’s absolutely necessary.
Kim C, I call bs on your story description!!!
@Kim C Not saying I don't believe you, but since I know or two about aviation, I HEAVILY, HEAVILY doubt your story. There should have been NO REASON whatsoever for the pilots to shut down the engines due to landing gear problems, let alone before landing. That would never happen, Literally never. One thing is taught in pilots school, No engines, no flying. Now, if you could tell me your flight number I could validate it, but as i Said, your story sounds fake to me.
@@danlen1118 Maybe she mistook the story a bit. Fear or lack of knowledge could have played a roll in her mistaken what might have happened on her flight. In any case a bad flight is a bad flight to those who have a fear of flying.
Lol
For the passenger that said that pilot was not a hero is understandable is the standable as a passenger but considering he glided that plane further than anyone else in history and didn't lose his cool.. I would say he's a hero..
That passenger is a thankless smug, his facial expressions and over the top eye rolls make me want to punch his face.
Is it the woman who only cares for her honeymoon
I’d like more episodes where EVERYONE SURVIVES.
Yes
Maintenance nearly caused a deadly crash! Kudos to the pilots for landing the Airbus safely without hurting anybody. I’m glad nobody got hurt❤
It's honestly kind of sad how the pilots hesitated to declare an emergency landing because they were afraid is wasn't an emergency.
Landing on the military base to make sure everything's alright is an incredibly minor inconvenience compared to what can happen, or, in this case, what did happen.
I was wondering why they would get honours if they made a decision like that so I looked it up. The airport that they landed at WAS the military air base in the Azores that was mentioned near the start of the program. They did declare an emergency and divert there, it just shows how much fuel they ended up losing before they got there. They made a good call in that regard. Note that the program does show that they did land there but I almost made the same assumption you did because of how they portrayed it. Little misleading of the program to imply otherwise.
THe culture of shame and fear has consumed many lives
They were afraid to declare an emergency bcs if it was not and there were actually fuel in the engines , the plane would be heavy and would break the gear and prolly kill everyone yeah? 🤔 So they had to be sure that there is not indeed fuel 🤔
It's not about inconvenience at all, you just declare emergency only when you're utmost sure, regardless of the fact it's military base or airfield. Mayday call is enough to alert air traffic control and then they can help you in anyway possible also none of the other flights or pilots would disturb them, also arranging emergency services, on ground staff, firefighters. It's just emergency aircraft is topmost priority and threat in air.
@@solomonfrancois1418 the pilot also said if they divert, and it turns out there was nothing wrong with the fuel, it would cost Airbus money and they would probably get fired
Let's appreciate how calm the Captain was. Deserves my respect. 💪👍
yes i agree
💪👍
Respect Lol.
Absolutely shameful he turned a single tank fuel leak into a potentially lethal emergency he then 'saved' everyone from.
According to Wikipedia, the captain of this flight is an experienced glider pilot!
This is a great story. I think the people who ordered that a substitute to be used for the hydraulic and fuel line separation due to cost are overwhelmingly the most at fault, and that the crew would have never been exposed to the highly stressful and uncertain situation they were put in had that substitution not been made.
I used be too excited going home….but After watching numbers of these ✈️ documentaries, I realized that sometimes we need to stay where we are and make the best use of Facetime 😂
You see documentaries regarding air crashes because of their overly complex characteristics that make such events so uncommon and such interesting crashes.
What you don't see, is a documentary for every car crash. For the vast majority of car issues and accidents, that's just Tuesday. Yes, there's aviation-like examples of issues in cars, like the Ford Pinto, or the Chevy Bolt, the early 00s Ford Exploder tires, Goodyear RV tires, etc. But the vast majority of crashes are uninteresting / uneventful human errors.
I’m with you. FaceTime is best lol
😂😂😂
lol
well then, how about watching earthquake documentaries where buildings collapse like a deck of cards and some survivors are rescued days later? :)
You know, instead of scaring me, those videos somewhat reassure me. Catastrophic events are always human errors, be it mechanical or economic related. Pilots are experts, and probably the most stress-resistant people in the world.
I agree, but I can't just shake off Air France 447
Yes. On western airlines, pilot truly need to go through a literal coolness test to be allowed to lead commercial airlines. True coolness means being calm even in extremely dangerous conditions.
Couldn't agree more. Im a nervous flyer.
Couldn't agree more. Im a nervous flyer.
True
Once they spotted the airport I suddenly had an eerie feeling come over me. It was such an ominous vibe in the cockpit. Barely any music, the sound of the wind, and just the tension gave such a weird feeling.
I felt like I was on the plane with them. That was terrifying! Good job guys. 👏👏👏
Seems like the first officer should have been calling the shots; he seemed to be more concerned about the fuel readings, the landing speed etc. the pilot was more like, ‘yeah... we’ll be fine...’
Not exactly. The Captain, being more experienced, was more at ease. He knew computer errors were likely as the prior checks showed no sign of any leaks.
A calm and collected pilot is what you’d need in a crisis like that.
Each have their roles. Usually the captain is final say due to years of experience and to take responsibility for faults and focus of task.
1st officer to do minor calculations and take mental burden from captain for smail duties and captain's burden for the end goal for all : land with all aboard alive.
Roles. Why the military has chain of command; same principles.
To me you seemed 'damned if you do and damned if you don't'. If you trust your instruments, and they're faulty, then you're condemned, and if you don't trust your instruments, and they are correct, then you're also condemned. As a pilot, you can't seem to win!
That's when it so unfair
Sometimes you have to use common sense, they didn't at first! Luckily they used some skill afterward and all was ok
So true!! If you don’t follow the manual/checklist you will face grave consequences, If you follow them and things don’t go perfectly, you still face grave consequences
@@willschultz5452 Keep in mind this is the first they experienced this and they are not trained for any of this. If they make one single wrong move, it can mean death or heavy consequences
@@sofiepan847 Yes and that is why they should have thought before they turned the cross feed on and then left it on, They weren't using common sense and that could be deadly. It's kind of like watching the fuel gauge go down to empty in your car quickly while you're driving, your first thought would be fuel must be leaking out somewhere not "I guess the fuel gauge isn't working right"
The pilots did a fantastic job bringing down the plane safely!! Both of them.
This is my favorite of the documentaries. I've been on a flight where we lost power but it was on the runway thank goodness. I cannot imagine being 30000 feet in the air with no power and basically on a humongous glider. That's so much different and I'm glad everyone survived.
If there's one thing I've learned from these shows, it's that you always declare an emergency immediately. Weird instrument reading? Declare an emergency. Someone sneezes? Emergency.
The coffee the flight attendant brings you is cold? Emergency.
*Interesting fact:*
In the computer game "Microsoft Flight Simulator X" there is a similar mission to this incident, for the passage of which the player receives the award "Pilot of the Century". The game involves a Boeing 737-800 aircraft and a maximum distance of 80 miles (Flight 236 planned for approximately 65 miles)
Thanks for the info :)
And I completed the mission after 4 attempts
Ah yes Great memories, but it’s in the Maldives
It is possible to reach both Male International airport as an alternate and the infamous other airfield
The mission is much easier to finish if you firewall the engines and climb slightly higher as soon as the flight starts, it doesn’t change the rate of fuel loss
I completed the mission after 3 attempts 😅
Then if game based on that the piolets deserve some royalties
I thank God for the pilots and flight crew. It was a great miracle! They have to keep their emotions under control while under extreme pressure to help and assure passengers that they will be okay. I ALWAYS pray for a safe trip for passengers and flight crew each time I see a plane in the sky even if I don't know anyone on the flight.
When he waa transferring Petrol to the other engine i felt like telling him to stop lol this documentaries make it feel like your right there
Calm & Steadiness is essential in any crisis situation and the Pilots proved this point. God bless all the Survivors !!!
Not if you're Valerie Marrs 🙄
Yeah, it's not fun on a flight with a freaked out pilot, that's for sure!!
Calmly and steadily pump all your fuel from the good tanks into the leaky engine, one gallon per second.