Pros and Cons of David Austin Roses
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- I am growing David Austin roses for around 10 years already. Advantages of these roses definitely overweigh the disadvantages. I think it is important to be aware of all of them.
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I just love how romantically you speak of Roses. I could listen all day, as I adore Roses too!
I don't know if there is such a thing as a "perfect rose", but Olga, your channel is the "perfect youtube channel for roses" 🤗
Awww, what a lovely message! Thank you!
So true ❤️😍🌹👍🏻🤗
I concur :-). I could listen to Ms. Olga read the phone book.
My channel too lol
I too started with one David Austin rose. Now I have 78! Thank you for this lovely film Olga.
Wow, 78! You are the person to ask: which ones are your favorites?
@@OlgaCarmody It's a brand new garden - so I don't know just yet! 🤣 But my first rose was Lady of the Lake and she is a beauty! Lady of Shallot is on my wish list after seeing your beautiful specimen and I have purchased 5 x Generous Gardeners based on your recommendation. It will be an exciting year of discovery here in the Wholesome Garden! Thank you so much! 😍
wow do you have a favourite?
@@elizabethforsyth3054 Ask me in 10 years! Lol! 🥀
Thank you Olga.❤
If I may, a slight correction here...David Austin roses are NOT cane hardy to zone 4 (-34 celsius). They can survive bud-grafted on the proper understock (multiflora) if buried deep, hilled high, given winter protection and HARD PRUNED in spring. Cane hardiness, however, is almost always compromised in cold zones and death assured if grown on their own roots.
*David Austin bred roses specifically for the English climate (akin to warm US zones). Show me an Austin that can rival cane/tip hardiness like 'Therese Bugnet', 'Wasagaming' and 'Great Maidens Blush' in temperatures of -35 degrees celsius, accompanied by freezing rain during winter. These latter roses all survive on their natural roots = no bud grafting. Having said that, Austins that could be infused with rugosa, canina, laxa or kordessii genes may stand a better chance.
Please note that David Austin Ltd., bud grafts on Dr. Huey; not exactly the ideal understock for zone 4/5.
Furthermore, I find that Mr. Austin focused too much on developing beautiful flowers at the expense of producing attractive shrubs. DA shrubs in general are flimsy with poor architecture and vulnerable to disease. Albeit a few exceptions, it makes sense why they're best planted in groups. Kordes can rival Austins nowdays with old fashioned blooms on much better disease resistant plants.
I count my favourite Austins on two hands, some of which are no longer available in Canada: St. Swithun, Jude the Obscure, Molineux, Heritage, William Shakespeare 2000, Munstead Wood, Mary Rose and Abraham Darby; all undeniably zone 6/7 plants without winter protection. That, unfortunately, isn't the case for my zone 4 climate, as they do require much more work to survive.
Hi Dee.S. Very good message. Thank you for posting that. Yes, I agree, cold hardiness is there when winter protection is in place in zone 5 and under.As for DA and Kordes, we have different opinions here, which is fine. Do you have favorite Kordes roses?
Hi Olga,
Yes, opinions will naturally vary depending on what works best in one's climate. Also a matter of personal taste and the roses that best resonate with the soul.
Oddly enough, I don't grow all that many Kordes roses in my garden. Some of the ones I fancy, however, include Garden Delight, the Fairytale and Parfuma series roses. Also climbers like Morgengruss, Alchymist and Fruhlingsgold. And oldies like Goldbusch.
I work in the horticultural industry and find that for some time now, Kordes has been releasing disease resistant Hybrid teas, floribundas and shrubs. New varieties are replacing the disease riddled hybrids of the 50' 60' and 70's, slowly rendering them obsolete. Winter hardiness remains a challenge but regardless of cane damage, Kordes shrubs do benefit from a hard pruning in spring likewise to Austins and many Agriculture Canada or Morden roses.
A cane/ tip hardy rose is naturally crown (root) hardy but a root hardy rose is not necessarily cane hardy.
In my garden, I prefer a rose mix comprising of Albas, certain gallicas, damasks, centifolias and portlands. Also big on hybrid rugosas, Canadian species and kordessii hybrids (ie: Cherry Frost). My collection of tender roses is limited to what I can manage in terms of winter protection due to the work load involved preparing them for winter.
Although I'm not big on David Austin roses in general, I do feel that there's an Austin out there for everyone. For me, St. Swithun wasn't just a favourite Austin, but ranks among my all-time favourite roses for its vigor, robust habit, perfectly exquisite blooms and bubblegum-myrrh fragrance; it was worth the effort to winter protect. Because of hard pruning each spring, I had grown it as a large shrub in my former zone 5 garden and would gladly do so again if it only were available. To my surprise, it proved to be fertile, producing large yellow pear-shaped hips. I was madly in love with it!
You almost had me sold on Lady of Shalott, lol. It glows like stained glass. Your climate is ideal for David Austin roses 🌹
Your presentation is as poetic as the roses~~
My first David Austin rose was Gertrude Jekyll, absolutely beautiful...and the scent is amazing. Since then my collection has grown. Completely hooked! Your garden is beautiful xx
Thank you, one day I will have Gertrude in my garden...
@@OlgaCarmody you will love her 🌹
I so appreciate this offering-just wonderfull & thank you so much!!❤
Your garden is breathtaking❤️
I fell in love with them this year. I have two and I don’t think I will be able to stop myself to purchase and cultivate more :)
Your garden is stunning!
That was a perfect video of roses 😊.
Yes DA roses have captured my heart. I have 9 now, 6 different ones. I have 2 Lady of Shallot roses on my list for next year.
I don't have a place for roses at my tiny apartment so watching this was nice for me to get a dose of flowers. I fell in love with Lady Shallot the first time I saw one in a David Austin Catalogue years ago.
That happened to me with Boscobel rose. Love at first site. In my garden I didn't place her well. Time to replant it this year!
Thank you! Lovely video!
I love your garden so much.
How magical! I love the character of your garden....the roses really compliment its structure. You've made some very valid points about DA. The beauty is fleeting but I think that is the allure and wonder of them. It makes the enjoyment all the more valuable. Thanks for sharing!
Sweet, thank you! I am glad you liked it!
Absolutely true I’m so in love with these roses! I have 6 and I’ll probably have 6-8 more in January 😎 Florida
I love Lady of Shallot...Imagine in ireland with lots of rain.it does not last...but that's it ...treasure it while it last.Thanks for sharing.😇
Absolutely stunning garden
Thank you for sharing!
I live in Jakarta, Indonesia 🥰
a tropical South East Asia, hot and humid climate.
Olga, I so very much appreciate the knowledge and poetic presentation of your video! For me, it is the tonal shifts from bud to bloom, and the way that the petals fall that make DA a favourite on the bush or in a vase. What roses!!! I loved your idea of planting two bushes side by side and I will put this into my garden design--thank you!!!
Aww, you are so welcome! Glad you enjoyed my videos! Happy gardening!
What a beautiful David Austin Roses..🌹🌹🌹I love it very much...💗💗💗
Thank you for sharing your beautiful collections of Roses...Olga Carmody. Sending more love to your Roses...Olga!
Have a wonderful week..
You are so welcome! You too!
Great video!
I’m glad I found your video last night , I was just watching all the videos gardening I can see . I love how you explain about the roses I can see you love what you do and I can tell you love your garden . Following from Ohio by the way
Great! Greetings to Ohio from Connecticut!
@@OlgaCarmody keep uploading, I really enjoy your videos , I hope I can learn something, specially with the Roses , we never had good luck with them .
So beautiful.
your accent is so relaxing...the way you talk.🙂
Thank you for this video! Much appreciated. I have 7 DA roses. My favourite is the Crocus Rose - utterly wonderful! I agree with you about their susceptibility to be spoilt by rain - St Swithin and Benjamin Britten were my most sadly affected roses by rain, forming soggy balls of petals.
I don't have Crocus rose, but heard a lot about it. And, we had tons of rain this season, my roses had a very short blooming time.
Fantastic video. It's amazing to find a like minded person. Our local garden centre just had a half price sale in their plants. I picked up two new David Austin roses - Lady of Shalott and Country Parson. My current favourite is Gentle Hermione. It's an obsession, these roses.
Wow, lucky you! We only have endless hybrid teas and knockouts in our stores! Glad you liked this video!
I have two roots planted this year, I'm beyond excited for next year🥰
Wonderful!
Love your videos! 😍
Thank you! 😃
Beautiful garden!!
Thank you!
Your honesty about the pros and cons is so refreshing. It's good to have a place to learn this important information. I impulsively bought my first David Austen rose this year, Lady of Shallot, which needs to live in a pot. She's been a challenging project already, mostly due to my ignorance. But the half dozen blooms she gave me were absolutely breathtaking. Fingers crossed she and I develop a good relationship in the future. Your videos give us so much food for thought about our own gardens. Thank you, Olga.
You are so welcome, Michelle! I hope that next year your Lady of Shallot will have a fresh start and will delight you with many blooms!
yes, I understand it is hard to resist growing more David Austin roses, I have many wanted lists, and trying to be selective for a few.
Thank you so much for mentioning the young plants being unable to hold up their flowers. I planted a Golden Celebration last year, and this year it's blooming and is healthy, but I keep finding the blooms laying on the ground. I thought I was doing something wrong! Hopefully she gets stronger over the next few years. :)
I have been inspired as well as informed when watching your videos. I have planted 2 The lady of Shallot 18 inches apart just like you which will be a central focuc in the end border. I even have Nepetas which the bees love. Apart from Shallot, I now have James Galway, Eustacia vye, Olivia Austin rose, Desdemona and Golden Celebration. I live the the South West of England
Your collection is beautiful, I suspect your heart is stolen by those charming roses! I almost got Golden Celebration this spring, but held myself back, enough for this year..
Great video
I have just found your page, & I love your style of presentation. I have just 'got back into roses' after more years than I care to remember. I 'accidentally' ordered more roses than I told my husband I had ordered. However, he had to forgive me because they were his Christmas & birthday present. 😂😂😂
I love how animated you’re while describing the roses. New subscriber❤
Welcome to my channel and happy gardening!
A beautiful garden and I hope my Claire Austin rose looks as good as your rose arch in a year or two! It's so lovely to discover so many like minded people.... I bought DA Desdemona, Bathsheba, Claire Austin, Lady Emma Hamilton, and Olivia Rose Austin this year (....fussed over like children!😂) and they bring me hours of pleasure every day, irrespective of the weather! A good run of really sunny weather would set us all up....that's Ireland for you! Best wishes and many hours of happy gardening to everyone!
Awww, thank you! Here in Connecticut, US we say a good run of rain will set us all up! Ireland doesn't need to worry about rain! We share a lot of same roses with you! Enjoy your roses and gardening, totally wonderful stuff, right?
I have three… and I know I’ll be getting more and more❣️
Oh you did mention it after all "the generous gardener" thank you, I have now subscribed.
Welcome to my channel, it is good to have you here!
Good one as always!! Still waiting for my first DA blooms❤️
Your Roald Dahls didn’t bloom yet? Mine are just opening their flowers…
Absolutely beautiful garden. While I've known this for a long time, it was soooo nice to finally hear someone validate my knowledge that the DA roses just dont last long once cut. I've had DA roses for the past 25 years and have experimented with many. I think my first love was Gertrude Jekyll. And it did so well in my first garden, yet not as well (as not been as vigorous) in my latest home. While there's no perfect rose, I love grouping the DA roses as there's always beautiful blooms - an amazing display. They're just exquisite and make me so happy. Have about 30 now and they're my solace after a long, hard day at work! Thank you for your videos. I've got to go find your videos on building climbing towers!
Thank you! Yes, there is something special about DA roses! And you have a nice collection of them! I am pleasantly surprised by latest introductions of DA: health is great and blooms are sturdier. This year my Olivia Austin will be 2 years old and I want to test her for vase life. Happy gardening!
@@OlgaCarmody thx you for all your responses to my questions last night :) Im lucky to get 3 days out of my cut roses. I always wondered if it's my hard water. Because I have a cat who destroys my bouquets I mostly just leave alone and enjoy outside! You have a gorgeous garden!
Fine Gardening once ran an article claiming an inverse relationship between scent and durability as a cut flower--something about the chemistry.
omg! My first DA rose was a Boscobel! I love it! From the first year I got it it was an exceptional performer-Zone 9. Thank you for the great videos. I love your dress in this video. God bless you and your family. Can you do a video on cutting roses for vases from climbing roses? Thank you!
Oh, my Boscobel is just a puny now. I want her to be magnificent! Yes, I am going to put your request into the pile of future videos. Thanks for the suggestion!
Our neighbour was having a rather pungent septic tank which was buried in his lawn replaced today (the pleasures of country living!) so last night I investigated the availability of time slots at David Austin's Gardens in Shropshire, UK. I was amazed to find open slots and booked a 3-hour slot today (entrance is free but limited to prevent overcrowding of cars and people, and you must book). My wife and I drove there and had a wonderful time. It was so nice to be able to see most of the DA roses in bloom so that you could fully appreciate their colour, fragrance, size, shape and even the way they fade. The problem is that it is very difficult to remember your opinions and the reasons for those opinions when you have walked past maybe 100 different roses over a couple of hours - I need to be more organised and take notes if/when I visit again. There is one large area where you can see and buy the potted-up roses, and another large area, the gardens proper, where the roses are planted in beds. I am the rose addict in the family but was delighted to see my wife taking a real interest in the different roses and encouraging/approving my choices for purchase (today the white, fragrant and reputedly disease-immune "Susan Williams-Ellis" (named for one of the founders of the Portmeirion pottery firm famous for its botanic plates and other tableware) and the fragrant yellow "The Poet's Wife"). There were several peacocks around and one was unconcernedly walking on the paths risking its sweeping train of feathers being trodden on by the visitors around it. We were able to sit in one part of the gardens and listen to more harmonious birdsong than the screams of the peacocks while admiring the hundreds of rosebushes in front of us, and the gardens were remarkably free of crowds, just enough people to notice them but not so many as to annoy you. Most of us buy DA roses from online pictures, descriptions and catalogues, but of course there is no substitute for seeing the flowers in real life if that is possible. Some roses I am more keen on buying now, others less keen. I was pleased to see that most of my purchases to date turned out to be amongst my favourites at DA's Gardens today, but was also pleasantly surprised by roses I would not have considered before seeing them in real life. I was also interested to find that my opinion on the same rose varied according to where I came across it - presumably due to different stages of development and exposure to sun, or even just the difference between seeing it at 1 p.m or 3 p.m. and the sky having cleared or clouded over in that time. A rose that another TH-camr saw there 4 days ago and found stunning, today looked very dull and lacklustre, having faded and suffered balling of its many petals in recent rain. But, anyway, we had an absolutely delightful time - and I came home with more roses, which is always a pleasure!
Wow!! What a great day out of septic tank situation! It is one of my dreams to come to your wonderful country and see DA display gardens! It must be a total privilege to see all the roses in bloom! Do they allow photos there? I am glad that you had a delightful time. Nature is always wonderful. Thank you for sharing! I must get my husband addicted to roses!
@@OlgaCarmody Yes they do allow people to take photos. It's a very friendly place with knowledgeable assistants always keen to help out by bringing roses you want to buy from outside to the shop checkout (if you need such help) and share their wide knowledge to help you choose suitable roses for your particular needs or offer advice on problems. It's almost as if you are visiting your friendly local garden centre. We ended up having short chats with a few people working there, and because the customers tend of course to be fellow rose enthusiasts it is easy to fall into conversation with them and exchange experiences. Despite the low key approach to selling, judging by the heavily laden trolleys we saw (including our own), DA is doing well out of the gardens even without charging an entrance fee - the lack of a charge is I think fairly remarkable considering all the work that goes into tending to thousands of roses and their surroundings. Can you imagine the deadheading needed! There is a video of a visit there last weekend posted by Jay Jay on TH-cam which might interest you. The one mistake we made going there was to allow our satnav to dictate our route - we drove the last 10 miles along the most winding and narrow country lanes England has to offer, where meeting a car coming towards you results in one of you reversing a couple of hundred yards between tall hedges to find a passing place. Returning home we chose a much less stressful route on major roads. DA's situation is very rural - unsurprisingly. I hope you do get to see it one day.
Absolutely there is such a thing as a perfect rose. Her name is Gertrude Jekyll and I just planted her. Let’s see how she does. The scent is just spectacular. I’m sure you know Olga. Thanks for this lovely video.
Gertrude is a special rose for a lot of people, I don't have her. One day!
If I had more sun in my garden, I would most definitely have more David Austin roses! Even though I can't seem to get the beautiful foliage on my bushes that you have. The wet humid weather we have here in the south makes it difficult. Your David Austin roses are so beautiful, Olga! ❤
Thank you, Cami! Yes, this is the time for roses ro reign!
I agree Cami Richardson. I’m in Alabama and had two trees cut down for roses and to protect my house but today is another 100 degree scorching day. Hottest Summer here in 115 years. I do miss my trees. I planted 2 dwarf trees….hope they eventually provide some shade
Very interesting, particularly your mention of Boscobel. I bought a potted Boscobel very early in the year and have been very disappointed with its growth and thought I had a poor example, but from what you say this is normal for this variety. I had the same issue with a Munstead Wood. On the other hand, I planted a Generous Gardener (and a Bathsheba and Gertrude Jekyll) against a north-facing 6 foot fence which gets virtually no direct sunlight here in the UK (in fact both sunlight and real warmth have been rare so far this year anyway) and am pleased to say all are doing well, although the GG is, I now realise, far too vigorous a climber for such a low fence, but our neighbours are also benefitting from the blooms on vertical stems sticking 2 or 3 feet up in the air.
This year is very unusual year for my roses. I see the difference in canopy build up and blooms are not as intense in color, Lady of Shalott is not orange, Boscobel is almost pink... I bet your neighbor loves your roses!
Dont worry...i have munstead wood for 3 years in a pot,slow to grow and not much blooms inspite of rose feed.But was positioned in a very sunny and windy spot...on the 4th year i decided to transfer the potted MW to a less sunny and windy area...And it grew at least 18 inches taller and wider gave me enormous and prolific blooms from summer to autumn.Boscobel as per experience thrives in a less sunny position as well.So there you go...a bit of hope for you😇🤗❤
DA's are the only roses that have fairly consistently failed in my garden. The Dark Lady lasted a year. Jude the Obscure ditto. Heritage is a disease bomb.
What's great? Kordes, Buck, Lens, polyanthas in general.
Worse, Austin grafted on Dr. Huey, which is not hardy in zone 5. am a master gardener who gardens for a dozen people, and all of them purchased Austin roses that reverted to Dr. Huey, a once blooming thorny climber.
The only really great one is Constance Spry. Which was his first. Non-recurring.
A lot of people in warm zones rave about them. If you are zone 5, buyer beware.
They are also very overpriced.
very nice
Absolutely stunning garden Olga ! Just to correct some information regarding winter hardiness; I live in Canada zone 5 ( US zone 4) and all my David Austin roses die back to ground each winter ( last year was exceptional warm winter and I had no cane die back). Fortunately, they grow quickly forming a nice shrub and bloom reliably but will never climb or form a huge shrub like yours. In my zone DA roses are not cane hardy but root hardy if planted deep and the graft is buried below the soil level
You know, I should have clarified that DAs do need protection in zone 5 and under and mention root hardiness. They are not Rosa rugosas. Thank you so much for your input! Happy gardening!
Good to know. I just got a few and don't want to lose them.
You are such a charming lady! I enjoy very much all your videos, they are also very helpful to me. And I agree with you entirely that if you once tried out a DA rose, you'll get addicted and want them all!😅
Haha, thank you Katiushka! And DA keeps introducing such great disease resistant varieties each year! Enjoy your garden this season!
Hi Olga! I'm a new subscriber and in zone 13, the very hot Philippines :) I'm happy to say Queen of Sweden and Lady of Shallot can take our temperatures however the blooms last 3 days only. I'm still happy they can take our heat :) hoping william shakespeare 2000 can take our heat too (fingers crossed)
Welcome to my channel! It is good to have you here! You know, those roses don’t keep their blooms long to begin with. I am glad you can enjoy them in Philippines! Any special tricks you know how to deal with roses in hot climates? I have requests to make a video about hot climates and roses. I can pick your brain and feature you in that video… Let me know. Thanks.
I'm more inclined to say that yes... there is such a thing as a "perfect rose" in my humble estimation Olga. And that is the rose that grows best and most floriferous and healthy in each gardener's garden. I'm also inclined to point out that, in your case Olga, it's most definitely The Lady of Shallot (of course, and that is to say that perfection, as in the eye of the beholder is truly subjective) 😊 What an absolutely heartwarming video. Much love as always Olga. Cheers❣️
Agree! There is a different perfect rose in different gardens!
I’m also a David Austin rose lover, but sadly we are either in zone 12 or 13, & the monsoon rains come from June to September. I have a very hard time keeping my roses in shape. Thanks for your informative video!
Yes, your climate is tough for roses to survive. Happy gardening!
white is boscobel how.boscobel is pink
Look at Chinese roses or Floribunda or look at designing with permaculture
Very nice story about D.A. roses. I agree with you in everything.
There is something magical in them that wins our hearts.
It is similar to the love of the japanese for a cherry blossom that shines
and disappears. It is holy love. But I love all my roses, especially the old ones,
which bloom only once.
When you give attention and admiration to every rose, it returns the best of itself.
Thank you, dear Olga, for your love!
Awww, thank you! Hugs!
My first David Austin rose is the poet's wife and it put on a amazing show when its in bloom. But would also like to have the lady of shallot
I live in zone 6b in central Europe. Our winters used to be very cold but recently they have become rather mild. As a result, I have decided to plant a few DA roses. At present I have three Auscats, one Ausmary and one Tottering-by-Gently. They seem to be happy in my garden, despite the poor soil and the relative lack of sunlight. On the other hand, I must admit that German roses by Tantau and Kordes, with the ADR certificate, have stolen my heart for good.
Our hearts are stolen. This spring I introduced Bliss Parfuma by Kordes into my garden. And ADR award is tough to beat, I must say.
@@OlgaCarmody The thing about the ADR is that they take it away if a particular award-given rose happens to disappoint over time. The certificate is really reliable, in my opinion.
I love your videos. So beautiful!! I am growing quite a few David Austin’s in my garden and love seeing them in yours. Also, your dress is so pretty! Where is it from? I’m always looking for dresses that match my gardening style☺️.
Thank you, my dress is from H&M. It is a shirt dress
Yes Ms. Olga, a perfect rose is any rose you enjoy & performs well for you. It's so interesting how one rose performs one way for one & completely different for another even from neighbor to neighbor. The perfect rose for me blooms fairly often, has decent disease resistance & one that can survive on its on for one year after the 1st year, if necessary. Every Summer is different & there may be the rare or occasional Summer where I can't pamper them. Life gets in the way, health issues, family, work etc. I need roses that can survive at least one year after the initial 1st in case of an unfortunate Summer. I enjoy pampering them but it's not always an option. I also know I'm the temporary steward of this land & will not be here forever. This home & lot may belong to my nephew one day or a stranger. David Austin roses are an investment being ownroot & here in zone 7b are long lived. Its my hopes the next steward or home owner can easily care for these roses even if they are not big on gardening or can't afford help. I've definitely been there. Your garden lot is beautiful & your voice so soothing. You bring us so much joy. Thank you for all you do. You make a difference in my life. Cheers! :-)
Totally agree, roses can live at the property many years after us. I also wonder about it, in case we decide to move and leave our garden behind. Thank you for watching!
@@OlgaCarmody YW & thank you
Oh you are so right about once you buy one. My wife bought one and now she’s the proud momma to 19 David Austin roses. She says 19 is an odd number and needs at least one more.
I bet you that 20 will not be the end to her collection! DA keeps introducing roses year after year!
Again, you are probably right!
I have around 45 DA roses in my garden in South Australia but I stopped counting exactly after about the 30th one. It's very much an ongoing trial and error process to assess which ones are the best performers and which ones will make way to trial a newer variety. You simply cannot rely on the DA catalogue descriptions unless you happen to live in or around Shropshire. I have very hot dry summers and alkaline soil. Some of the older varieties perform much better than the new releases. Some varieties have blooms that can last 5-6 days on the bush. Some like Heritage and Pat Austin will only last one day and I have long since gotten rid of those. Then there is enormous variation in the way people's noses perceive or do not perceive fragrance. My nose very much favours the old rose scent and the myrrh scent but I usually cannot detect tea scent. So I adore Ambridge Rose which to me is the best scented DA rose.
I am also rather fussy about roses holding onto the shape of their blooms and most definitely hate drooping roses. I shovel pruned Jubilee Celebration because its blooms always droop and I cannot enjoy blooms that hang upside down (climbing roses excepted of course where that trait is beneficial). I don't like roses that open with nicely compacted petals beautifully arranged but which rapidly lose that shape within a day or two (I got rid of The Dark Lady for that reason and probably will also get rid of Darcey Bussell for the same reason).
I am trialing own root bushes that I have grown from cuttings versus the grafted varieties we get in Australia. Most bushes are grafted onto Dr Huey rootstock in Australia and 100% of them are infected with rose mosaic virus. In my soil, the own roots seem to be outperforming the grafted versions but I don't have enough experience with different varieties at this time.
Finally there is disease resistance. DA for example describes Fair Bianca as a weak and disease prone variety but in Adelaide's heat it is absolutely magnificent and healthy. Many of the recent releases are no healthier than the older proven varieties. I have yet to see them produce a more prolific healthy rose than John Clare. I have yet to see them produce a pink that outperforms Mary Rose. Many other breeders are now offering similar 'old-fashioned' looking blooms that repeat well and Kordes is one such breeder that offers roses that perform every bit as good as DA.
It was very interesting to read your message. Especially because you garden in such a different climate! Thank you for that. I find that most of my roses have mosaic virus, which is not a big problem here in my garden, but still annoying.
I don't grow roses which you mentioned so it was a really fun read. Thank you and happy gardening!
Super interesting, Im in Qld. Is your area humid too?
@@jacintasart6902 No it's not humid in Adelaide which has a Mediterranean style climate with very hot dry summers. This means our best roses are in spring and autumn. In the summer, the heat causes roses to open too fast with fewer petals and then the sun just fries them. Little black spot to worry about though in summer.
My dear Olga.. one coulnd't describe it better :) :) :) And I agree, there is no such thing as perfect rose, but yes, after you buy one, you soon will have a few.. and a few more.. and more... their beauty steal your heart in a moment and there is no!!! way back :)
Amen to that! Roses are so wonderful and they make garden feel magical!
David Austin roses really do capture your heart. I started with Lady of Shallot and now have Bathsheba, Bring Me Sunshine, Roald Dahl, Grace, Dannahue, Golden Celebration and Dame Judi Dench. And am thinking of adding The Poets Wife this year.
Yes, I would have them all, but the space. Which one is your favorite so far?
It’s so difficult to pick a favourite but I have a real soft spot for Roald Dahl.
I am really jealous of your garden.... Love the roses..
You are funny, I am jealous of people with bigger garden size. And so it goes around, grass is greener somewhere else. Haha, happy gardening!
The main disadvantage is you cant stop buying them.
Very good point!
Hello from Australia!
I had to add my two cents worth to the discussion as my experience is quite different yet again. I live in the state of Queensland, in a city, Toowoomba, that has what we call a sub tropical climate. I have no idea what zone that is but I have over 100 roses, many of them David Austins. As I have 3 daughters, I have planted a rose each for their names, so we have an Olivia Rose Austin, a Penelope {Hybrid Musk} and of course, a Charlotte, another David Austin.
Because the way David Austin markets his products in the Southern hemisphere is different, I grow a lot of the older, discontinued Austins. I have Belle Storey, Gertrude Jekyll, the Squire, the Prince, the Ambridge rose as well as the newer varieties and yes, I do grow Boscobel, both as a bush and a standard. I have Graham Thomas, Wollerton Old Hall, Jude the Obscure, Lady of Shallott, Golden Celebration, Evelyn, the Alnwick Rose, Princess Alexandra, Fair Bianca and many others.
A lot are Austin-like as in Earth Angel as I love the flower form as well as the perfume!!!
I also grow heaps of Delbard roses, both for their perfume and picking qualities.
But we have fairly hot and humid summers here and because I rent, most of my roses are grown in pots. We have found that of you keep the air circulation around them well, good potting mixes and their roots cool and well-mulched, they will flower their hearts out!!!
This year, we experienced summer temperatures ranging from 37 degrees {Centigrade} down to 1 - we are just off having our first frosts. It is now winter here and my Chateau de Versailles, a beautiful peachy-pink Delbard has fully budded up!!!
So I suppose the takeaway is no matter where you are in the world, you should, as we say in Australia, have a go!! You may find some varieties perform better than others but I found that by trial and error, there were so many Austins that will do well for all of us!!!!
And thank you Olga for all your efforts as I know I have learnt so much from you! Cheers, Liz.
Hi Liz, greetings from US. Wow, so many roses you’ve got! I am almost jealous. How did you get Evelyn? I just don’t have any luck with purchasing it. The minute DA says she is in stock, she is sold out…
@@OlgaCarmody Hi again Olga!
Yeah it can be tricky to get the varieties you really want to grow! At the moment, I'm chasing down a plant of Shropshire Lad as he almost thornless which my husband will really appreciate! And we have just started the bare root season in Oz and he has already sold out.
You have experienced how hard it is to grab a plant of Evelyn but here we don't even get to see ones like Generous Gardener. So I am jealous of you haha!
My solution is to always pre-order. That way you always get the ones you want. Over here, we had a massive resurgence in rose-growing due to everyone being in lockdown when covid hit. So our nurseries found themselves with a chronic shortage of ALL roses, right across the spectrum. They are just catching up in filling orders from a year ago. Also, DA here has a website but it does not sell direct. Instead, they refer you to the nurseries that do supply Austin roses. Which means we have had breeders that still supply Austins dating back to the 1980s!
These do really well in our climate and you can get really old gems that are, for me anyway, a total joy to grow.
And thank for replying as it's always great to chat about roses, cheers, Liz.
Спасибо за ваши обзоры, после ваших рассказов заказала generous gardener и lady of Shalott. Хорошего вам лета!
We had a wonderful tea & tutorial at our local garden centre last yr by David Austin guys from their UK HQ. They are certainly stunning & the variety is great. Thing is the roses were £40 each no mater what type.Sure you can get vouchers & 10% off but it is steep if you want lots n lots n lots
Yes, those beauties are an investment for sure. Would have loved to have tea and listen to those folks with you!
Lovely video to wake up to this morning!
What were the last roses that you were next to at the end? QoS?
Thank you! Yes, that is Queen of Sweden. Have a lovely day!
Thanks for v informative video Olga, could you mention the name of the rose on your pergola at beginning of your video. Many thanks
I don't see any con there I see beautiful roses 🌹🌹🌹!
I wish old varieties would be more disease resistant, maybe that is why David Austin is taking some of them out of circulation.
I vink i vill vrunn out and buy david austin roses after vwatching this a pr miracle for him
I got some D A roses years ago. Never kept their leaves beyond the first rose. Blackspot defoliation. The best flower but needs more disease resistance. Zone 8a
It would be great if all DAs have excellent disease resistance. My black spot is to a degree, manageable. We still go into the fall with some roses bare at the bottom. Happy gardening!
I have the Boscobel rose which is doing very well, but my other David Austin roses, although they flower well, they get a lot of black spot on the older leaves which drop off over time leaving the lower bush rather bare. Brother Cadfael's blooms do last longer than the other David Austin roses I have though and the stems are stronger .(The others I have are Abraham Darby, Evelyn, and Margaret Merrill). All of them are fragrant. I have a sunny side of my garden where my roses are and a shady side where my Camellias are.
Oh, you’ve got Evelyn. How is she? Is her scent as magnificent as they say? My roses do get black spot at the end eventually. I just live with it, what can I do. As long as the health of the bush is not compromised.
@@OlgaCarmody Evelyn's scent is lovely, though she was a slow starter and is still one of the weakest growing of my roses. I only have a small garden with narrowish flower beds. She might do better in a more open space as you have in your garden. I think Abraham Darby has the strongest scent of all my roses. I'd love to get Jude the Obscure. I've heard lots of good things about it but it seems to be hard to get hold of at the moment. The David Austin site says he may have some in the Autumn.
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Oh, my gosh, you are funny! Happy watching!
@@OlgaCarmody hehehe.. here in Indonesia we have quite many DA's variants too.. but not Generous Gardener yet.. we hope soon it'll be here. I already have some: Munstead Wood, Kate Wedding Rose, and some Japan roses despite our climate
Hello! Beautiful roses!! We have a lot of their roses in our garden! 🌹
What is the musical piece you played at around 0:27 seconds? I would love to know what piece that is. Thank you very much!
It is A Minor Waltz by Esther Abrami
Beautiful roses! Do you spray your roses to keep the bugs from eating the leaves? Your rose leaves look so healthy!
I use Neem oil, I do spraying with it for black spot though, which is an enemy number 1 for me…
@@OlgaCarmody Thank you, Olga!
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Thank you for this! Quick question... Your roses are so beautiful and bountiful. How old are they, on average??
I started around 10 years ago, so the oldest are 10 and each year some rose/roses joined my garden.
Thanks for presentation, how do you determine zones, could you explain please
Just google USDA planting zones and plug in your area or zip code. You will see your planting zone.
Absolutely stunning. I have a total of 6 roses now. 2 from 3 separate companies. 2 David Austin. 1 rose, not sure which company right now is being chewed on horribly. It is in close proximity to other roses and so far they seem okay. I ended up cutting it back almost to the root hoping it would improve. I need to move it further away to nurture it awhile. I'm concerned moving it might damage it more, any suggestions or advice please? If you have time I would greatly appreciate your thoughts on this matter. Thank you, have a lovely day.
Well, moving is always stressful. Moving in summer is even more stressful. If I absolutely have to move my rose, I would put it in the pot. So, do that, if space is tight there near other roses. You just have to assess the situation: if rose is declining no mater what, move it.
@@OlgaCarmody thank you. I greatly appreciate your thoughts and time. Putting in a pot seems best for now. Just had a heavy rain storm last night. Today might be the best opportunity to move it. Either way, it is possible I could lose the bush no matter what choice I make. At least this way, I'm attempting to save it. Again, thank you.
Move in the fall or early spring when plats are in dormant to reduce from the transplant shock.
I really love your videos. I live in zones 10-12 and as you said, roses don’t do well here and I’m very sad. I’ve been in love with DA roses for years, spend hundreds every year to have struggling non blooming roses. Please help.
Hm, let me prepare a video for rose lovers in hot zones. It might take some time, but I will do it. Thanks and be well.
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Hello Olga. I am a beginner rose gardener. After years of wishing & planning we finally just planted a large David Austin rose garden of various varieties. We are in zone 7a.
My question: naturally we wish to avoid problems with diseases & damaging insects so we bought Bio-Advanced Rose & Flower Care Granules that you’re supposed to put down every 6 weeks. This product is recommended on David Austin’s website. Is this the product you use & do you find it does a good job? Do you have any other recommendations for a novice rose gardener like me?
Would so appreciate your advice! Thanks!
Hi there, I garden mostly organically and have videos about it. Bio- Advance Rose granules are synthetic fertilizers, I don’t use it. I invest heavily into the health of the soil, which is organic gardening. Healthy soil produces healthy plants. Congratulations on your roses!
My new 'Abraham Darby' rose doesn't shed its petals unless you make them fall off. They tend to stay on the shrub and dry out there.
Hm, interesting. I don't have Abraham Darby. I am going to ask around if it is something about your local climate and if my local folks have the same feedback about their AD. thanks for sharing and happy gardening!
David Austin "queen of Sweden" stands up to the rain perfectly
You are right, I should have been more precise in pointing the difference in stem stiffness and petals staying on the flower. My Queen of Sweden lost half of her blooms today after the night rain., but her stems are perfectly upright.
@@OlgaCarmody regarding the petal, Rose leonardo da vinci has longest lasting bloom in my garden 😉
@@rz202 She is the beauty, gosh, why don’t I have all the land to try all the roses!
At this point, I just don't have any patience for roses that get diseased. I have pulled out so many roses and left them by the street for passerbys to take. They are all beautiful but since I don't spray, it's just not for me. I love the Kordes roses because they have so many roses without a drop of blackspot or mildew, with all the beauty of the David Austin roses. I do have a few DA that do have strong disease resistance too. Bottom line, it's worthwhile to do research and not just fall for that gorgeous photo. There is almost always an improved version of a rose shape or color that someone may want.
What are your favorite Kordes roses? I totally understand the need to reduce maintenance in the garden. Maybe one day I will be an ardent lover of Kordes roses as well…
@@OlgaCarmody I guess it depends on what color you like. For red I love Florentina Arborose, for pink I love Rosarium Uetersen and Summer Romance. What I love about them is the impossible number of blooms. They're absolutely loaded with blooms and just clean and gorgeous.
"Rabbits can not get them now" 😅 "Oh, that's great!", I thought. But then I remembered that we have rabbits, deer, sawflies, aphids, Japanese beetles, and the chipmunks keep digging under the roots. I use all the natural methods, but seem to still be loosing the battle. Your roses have such nice and healthy foliage! Not a single spot or hole. Honestly, I'm amazed.
I really think it is all about health of soil and spraying horticultural oil in the middle of winter. I have videos about it. Check them out and try it in your garden. You will be able to see the difference next year. Happy gardening!
I am learning from you Olga how to take care of my roses. What do you think of Rosengräfin Marie Henriette? I know it is from W. Kordes’ Söhne but I am looking for information because it is my new rose. Have a pleasant day!
Oh, you’ve got yourself a Parfuma rose from Kordes! Lovely. I don’t know this rose, but it should be very black spot resistant and romantic in style. Check HelpMeFind.com, you will get all the info without bells and whistles.
@@OlgaCarmody thank you for this great info! I will use this website for my future choices. For now, my new rose charms with large, romantic flowers and an intense, wonderful fragrance, but it's good to know what to look for to keep it healthy. Have a very pleasant day!
After watching this episode i laugh cause i started with one D.A and ended up with 60 in a small garden...i got so addicted to collecting D.A
Oh, yes, you must have the land to host those 60 beauties!
@@OlgaCarmody Believe you me...No idont about 250 sq meters only planted 25 in pots the rest in the ground but distance is only 18 inches apart.I have a small patio that is for my household the rest are my roses.🤭
What do you mean by a monocultural garden is invitation to disease? This is my first year with DA, I fell in love with LOS when I saw her in one of your videos about a year ago. And you are right, this year alone I acquired 23 DA. 😍😵💫
Oh, Veronica, your heart is stolen! By monoculture I mean same plants dominate in landscape. If I would have only roses in my garden, when pest or disease strikes, they can spread very quickly from rose to rose. Diversity in the garden is healthy.
@@OlgaCarmody thank you , I can see what you are saying now.
How do you manage to deadhead the higher blooms? Do you just do the ones you can reach?
I reach all of them. For my climbers, I use ladder.
Is your catmint the “6 Hills Giant?” Mine is “Walker’s Low and isn’t as big as yours. Do you find yours infringing on your roses at all?
In the front I have Walkers Low. And yes, it will take over my rose if I let it. It gets full sun and no watering whatsoever. I cut those long stalks near my rose and put them in vase..
Hi Olga, what is your favourite DA rose ?
I don’t have super big rose collection, but my favorite so far is Olivia Austin. I am so impressed by its disease resistance and flower production! I will know for sure this season and will do a review on her.
Beautiful garden 😍..What is rhe name of the rose at the end of the video ?
That is the Generous Gardener. thank you
Thank you, do you spray ?
I don't use systemic products, just organic sprays.
What is the DA rose on your arch in the beginning of the video? I thought it was the Claire Austin, but yours look like a very pale pink and on the DA website, it describes and shows them as a Creamy White. Is this what you have, or do they no longer sell the one you have? I'm trying to purchase my first DA rose as a gift for my mother to grow up the arch in her garden in honor of my late father, and it's challenging to pick the right one. So, thank you for any direction you can offer.
The rose behind me on the arch is The Generous Gardener and it is growing on 10 feet arch. It is disease resistant rose, so you probably won't need to spray it, which is a hassle. The only negative of that rose is, it looses blooms fast. Otherwise I am enjoying it in my garden for 10 years already.
@@OlgaCarmody Okay, that's great info. Thanks so much for the quick reply and for sharing all of your experience. I've just discovered your channel, but I love it!
What was the very last rose we saw please?
Queen of Sweden
have you ever tried to take cutting from this one and make it root
I didn't do that rose.
You're so lovely 😍
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I do like David Austin roses for 40 years. First : G. Jekyll, then W. Shakespeare, Munstead Wood, etc.
In my garden my feelings are :
+ : fragrance, healthy, repeated blooming ;
- : too large (big ?) flowers, lack or charm compared to true ancient roses (gallic, centifolia, etc), and the new Vibert II.