The number at the start is most definitely wrong. If anybody wants to correct me, feel free to reply with the actual amount. Edit: my Bleed information is, in fact, wrong, and clashing while winning does not affect Bleed count. This only affects one part of the Bleed segment, however it is a big mistake. As an apology, here's another fun Bleed mechanic: when an enemy is inflicted with enough Bleed to kill them, you can speed up the process by losing clashes on purpose. Every time a coin is broken in a clash (or a tie occurs), Bleed procs, meaning that if you purposefully put a weak skill up against the enemy, you get a Bleed proc for every coin in your skill. This works especially well on characters with a 3-coin s1 (Ring Yi Sang on top once again) Just make sure that you don't get staggered if a skill next turn would have dealt more damage than the additional procs of Bleed this turn. (Obviously irrelevant if using this trick allows you to close out an encounter on a given turn)
Nope, I recounted all the ids, used a possible combinations calculator and got the same number of 2,813,729,380 (without repetitions, with repetitions it's 3,652,745,460). So, good job on that
You are right to think that this number is wrong. If you use a possible combinations calculator online and plug in the amount of identities and the team size you will get exactly that number, but that calculation did not account for the fact that you can only use one identity per sinner, so it couns a team composed by 6 yi sangs as a valid team. In reality, the number should be lower. But it still a fucking lot, by my calculations it is around 0.5 to 0.6 billions (not 2.8 billions)
i did not calculate with precision because the sinners having a different amount of IDs make the precise calculations way more boring to make, and i am too lazy to download a better calculator app and do it
Since I'm not smart enough to come up with a mathematical way of reasonably finding the number, I just made a program that would brute force it and come up with every possible sinner team combination(no permutes) and then multiplied each sinners identities by each other within each possible team combination. The total team combinations before Zwei Ishmael is 713,173,930 With Zwei Ishmael there are 751,466,800 total combinations
SL Yi Sang not being mentioned is nuts. He honestly does WAY more for the entire team with better overall damage than deluge man. Unless you're running MD, SL Sang is core either way. Other than that, good video.
Was kinda surprised in not seeing Wild Hint Heathcliff. He’s damage scales not only on Dullahan and Coffins, but on amount of sinking on enemies as well, which I found to be really useful
My girl Butler Ryoshu not being mentioned is pain. I know her main draw is really just her high clash values, Speed, and 2 Skill ATK Weight, but her poise generation is so self efficient its insane. That saie she's probably best mentioned in a generalist/unga bunga team, huh?
@@LacroseLax I grinded a lot and got all the S4 stuff except Butler Faust, Contempt Awe and Dimension Shredder Outis. I also got enough for Molar Ish and Cinq Sinclair. I am still debating if I should try farming more for Butler Faust or something for Rodion
My strongest team is sinking and then Tremor. I'm considering investing in an ungabunga team now to winrate through the main story with IDs like Multicrack Faust, W Ryoshu, Cinq Sinclair, BL Mersault, WH Heathcliff and dieci Honglu. Someone told me that might be good since there are bosses that resist status teams.
@@MultiBatikanI recommended getting Faust first because season is about to end and Butler Faust is a season ID. After the season changes, you won’t be able to shard her for a whole season. which means u have to wait for season 6. I personally always have Butler Faust in my sinking team for Fluid Sac and Echoes of manor passive
As someone who mains the Blade Lineage Team, consider your bones claimed. I will not tolerate such disrespect for BL Sang and BL Sinclair while BL Faust is simultaneously being promoted as one of the best Poise IDs. BL Sang is very reliable as you can quickly fulfill his passive's conditionals, which make his skills' max rolls arguably better than BL Faust's, and additionally, his S3 deals much more damage compared to BL Faust's S3. While BL Sinclair's S1 and S2 aren't as good as BL Faust's, his S3 deals a ton of damage on crit, applies a good amount of paralyse, and has the added bonus of turning human enemies' corpses into a bunch of giblets if he overkills them by a lot. In conclusion, I have no clue why you put BL Faust onto the "strongest units" section for Poise but I hope and pray with all sincerity that she gets obliterated and replaced with BL Sang or another ID who has more usage in non-BL Poise teams, such as Pequod Ish. (In case you are unfamiliar with her usage on Poise teams, her S2 pairs well with Poise teams because it contributes to and benefits from Poise Pride chains, and can allow other Poise allies to build Poise quicker because of the Poise gen on their S1. Her passive and S3 after attack effect are also very good for helping allies quickly build up their Poise, and unlike Kimsault, the Poise generation isn't limited to a specific faction.)
As someone who finally got my BELOVED BL Meursault and is keeping for BL Sang, and BL Don to get better for his poise and make my beloved stronger, I’m sooo relieved to read your comment after watching the part about Faust! lol For one second I thought I researched wrong. I’m keeping for BL Sang, next I wanted BL Don to get more poise, then the Maid Ryoshu, keep my Arpoon Heathcliff (He has poison as well), and then, I don’t know? Level up my Kurokumo Rodion to use her? Wanna help me? I love Blade Lineage! Thank you for your comment! Greetings from Brazil! 🤍⚔️
imo t don is less of a priority in tremor teams, since time moratorium can sometimes screw you over, and changing all of your tremor type into tremor chain is not the best if you want to deal damage with tremor reverb i would also say that yurodivy honglu is almost certainly integral to an optimal tremor team, because cavernous wailing is *the* tremor reverb ego for easy conversion
I'm genuinely surprised that you suggested ring sang over W Sang for rupture tbh, especially cuz W Sang + Rambling Man (Dim Shredder passive) is a match made in heaven for rupture teams.
@@ultranumhere oh Yeah, I hadn't finished it. That's on me for only using rupture in MD where gifts like card and branch make count application and charge a nonissue lmao. I can definitely see why W Sang isn't good outside of content where he gets more slots and MD.
9:06 Funnily enough, I installed Limbus 5 days before this Walpurisnaught ended. Got Dawn Office Sinclair while trying to get SL Yi Sang and/or RE+P Ryōshū'
18:57 i disagree here sinking is amazing for humanoid fights as 90% of humanoids have positive coins so keeping their sanity low and making them panic greatly improves clash potential
I don't consider the ability to decrease an enemy's SP very strong, when other teams like Burn can just beat the encounter 3 turns faseter. Also Sinking is incredible on bosses, and deserves much more recognition than an ok effect on human fights
Just my opinions: For poise: i think BL Don is one of the core id that help gaining a lot of poise. For charge: Don telepole and outis need to be mention
You forgot faction teams such as withering and W.Corp as they usually focus on 1 status (W.Corp with their charge barrier) cuz some units (mainly n corp) do get better the more units of the same faction are alive
First of all, congratulations on another amazing video, great explanations as always, that said, i'd like to share some things that (for me) were noteworthy; For Bleed, i really enjoyed the bleed segment talking about how to approach different enemies (single/multi parts and coin amount), it was something that i felt like deserved some focus in the bleed video, so i'm happy to see it talked about in a video directed to begginers; For Poise, i think that i'd reccomend BL Don over Cinq Sinclair as a main unit, since despite her lower strength, her capability of contributing to allies' poise, even if they aren't a BL ID, warrants her a spotlight, specially since Meursault's passive only gives poise and his unique buffs to other BL IDs, which means that non BL IDs wouldn't benefit as much from Meursault's support; For Rupture, i'd just like to put for begginers that Yi Sang can be run both with his W or his Ring ID, with Ring being better for count but being RNG-reliant while W is more on the standard rupture ID side of things, though requires some charge ramp-up for S2 and S3 to inflict rupture count, but also offers haste on self to help with DS' passive; For sinking, i'm gonna skip the on-going debate seen everywhere of whether Rime Shank is still necessary or not, rather i'm here to shoutout Ishmael's new EGO, which is sinking focused (and is the only EGO able to inflict Echoes of the Manor (EoM)) and the strange interaction between Yi Sang's Bygone Days (which btw, helps Spicebush clash better) and EoM, where due to the way Yi Sang's EGO applies its sinking potency, which is it applies 1 potency at a time even on the same target, it can apply a lot of count on an enemy with EoM due to the latter's effect of 50% chance of inflicting 1 sinking count when an enemy receives any sinking infliction; As for Tremor, i'd simply swap Hong Lu with Don given that Hong Lu has (currently) the only sources of Tremor - Reverb; Lastly, non-obligatory sinners in this video's top 3s (including limiteds and non-limiteds), just for the fun of it: -Yi Sang (4/7): Bleed (Ring), Burn (Ring, as a non-limited), Rupture (Ring + DS EGO), Sinking (Spicebush); -Faust (5/7): Bleed (Grip), Charge (MC), Poise (BL), Rupture (Seven), Tremor (Regret [Limited] + Everlasting); -Don (2/7): Rupture (Lantern, limited), Tremor (T); -Ryoshu (1/7): Bleed (REP, limited), Charge (W); -Meursault (1/7): Poise (BL); -Hong Lu (1/9): Tremor (Yurodivy + Cavernous Wailing [sole sources of "yellow tremor"], non-limited); -Heathcliff (1/7): Charge (MC); -Ishmael (2/7): Burm (Liu, non-limited), Sinking (Molar); -Rodion (2/7): Burm (Liu), Sinking (Dieci + Rime Shank EGO); -Sinclair (3/7): Burn (Dawn, limited), Poise (Cinq), Rupture (Talisman, non-limited); -Outis (3/7): Bleed (Ring, non-limited), Burn (MB, limited), Tremor (Molar); -Gregor (0/7): - ; As seen above, we can conclude that the moral of this video is that if you want to be chosen more for important roles, be smart.
I feel like Burn is easy enough to inflict that the bonus damage from Rodya's passive (also free damage on s3) are better than its effect. I should've definitely mentioned ABS when talking about Ishmael, though.
unga bunga team is lcb sinners, literally no thinking needed. Story team is "Evil" version of sinners (cockroach, gripclair, bushsang, ahab, wildcliff) not because it's any good but because it looks amazing.
Just use 6 damage dealers, preferably one of which have a healing EGO. You can get through every fight in the game so long as you can fuel a healing EGO
If Rupture was too easy to stack Count on, there'd be no reason to use any other team. Not even for damage types either, because Rupture ignores all weaknesses.
I'm new to the game and after a few rerolls I got some good rupture Id's, Cinq Meursault, Devyat Rodion and Seven Assoc Faust, would that be a good start? I heard that rupture is not very friendly to new players.
Hm, have you ever noticed that Talismans and Dimensional Rifts (and arguably electric discharge or however that AEDD thing was called) aren't considered unique Rupture? (Or unique charge in case of ED)
Most sinking cornerstones have pride. I have a full sinking team (no rodion because i dont like rimeshank) and i have 3 pride skill 1's. Before wildhunt heathcliff came out i only had 1 envy skill. Sloth is also relatively common but if you are using the real sinking cornerstones. Linton gregor for great clashing and a incredibly count positive skill 2, butler outis for echoes of the manor and molar ishmeal for a passive that when in effect makes it impossible for her to be count negative on an enemy with tremor. You will see how rare envy is. Also while i cannot disagree with the choice of rodion I can disagree with spicbush, while spicebush is crack and i am addicted to his damage numbers in md, compared to Solemn lament Yi sang he is really the best in MD. Outisde of MD SL Yi sang is a potency monster and does crazy damage. Also dont sleep on wild hunt heath, because while he is generally good in any team his synergy with butler outis, and sinking in general makes him the king of damage in sinking (which is a team with already amazing damage). Just a samll rant, im not yet finished with the story so i havent really tried other archytypes but i will say that sinking is such a fun archytype, and turn 2 deluge is real, based, balanced and makes you feel superior with your 8000 damage in 2 turns.
Have to ask why did you put Dimension Shredder Outis as an envy resonance EGO and not Electric Screaming Meursault? Seems like Outis only gains attack weight and nothing else
Because generally DS Outis is more relavant than ES Meur due to Outis having a better Charge ID than both of Meur's. You're right in pointing out that ES Meur gets a lot more buffs from resonance, though.
Ranking Faust or Cinqlair as more important on poise teams than Captain Ishmael feels like a joke ALSO PUTTING T DON OVER DYVAT HONG LU IS FUCKING CRININAL HONG LU IS LITERALLY THE REASON *WHY* TREMOR WORKS AS HES THE ONLY ACCESS TO REVERB RUPTURE Don belongs in the honorable mention slot, NOT Hong Lu These lists are fucking wild, im not even gonna talk about sinking
I haven’t watched the video yet but if burn or envy res is done dirty I’m writing an essay …WHAT THE FUCK the fact that you didn’t mention the PANTHEON on strong egos that burn has is a CRIME you skipped past all of the nuence and complexity that making a burn team comes with like if your focused around meeting conditions or just dealing damage and even then how are you dealing that damage? Is it with the status or with strong skills and ego? You also got to account for what kind of SP healing you bring cause it helps a ton thanks to burn using a lot of ego or just eating SP, do you use blind obsession at a steep cost but massive sp heal or do you just rely on passives to heal sp like base Lu, yi sang and Nfaust or maybe an in between and use a cheaper sp healing ego like bygone days or even the question of if you use contempt awe for the passive and that is simple scraping the surface I haven’t even gotten into the Liu ryoshu vs meursault You didn’t even mention envy res, die
@@alastellabears8083 not talking about how ardor blossom ishmael is just free 6,9,12 burn EVERY TURN helping you stack it extremely quickly how FMF rodya is good to further boost wrath damage (all you go for) capotle meursault just being one of the best egos in the game and butler ryoshu being a good burn unit despite not having a singular burn skill! the fact that her typing is perfect, s1 for whistles and s3 for the wrath res nukes (what you want to go for) while also being able to further boost FMF damage with crit + passive just make her so good
@@perdiconta95 I agree accept for that last part, people need to stop trying to make none Burn IDs work, they don’t. Adding to the burn stack AND doing a lot of that but slightly worse is far more important
That's crazy. Almost like every part of this video follows a set pattern and doesn't go too in depth. I have a playlist of actually helpful guides on my channel, and burn is the next team that will be added there. You can check that video out once it releases, your input will be taken into account. Also how is RingSang bad for burn?
Actually think a discussion on whether Ringsang or Warp Sang is better for a rupture team would be interesting. I think Ringsang is better early for rupture but weaker late. Because Warp Sang has amazing sin affinities. S1 is sloth which rupture teams are lacking. Currently in the rupture team I use the only source of sloth is Warp Sang's S1. Which you need for Dim Shredder which is essential for the team. S2 is gluttony which is super important for talisman turns and for K corp ampules. S3 is Gloom which is decent for Gregor AEDD but otherwise not too useful.
You should check out wAgent's video on Rupture. He goes over both Yi Sang identities, and ultimately lands on RingSang being better. I also support his opinion because W Sang's reliance on Charge makes him very weak early, and also weak after every s3. RingSang also deals huge damage due to working well alongside all the unique effects in Rupture, so he's just firing on all cylinders
@@ultranumhere oh yeah I watched that video. The video was talking about the context of resetting for talismans and ringsang immediately working whereas Wsang taking time to setup. I think for old railway or just resetting fights and with talismans reset strat Ringsang is better. For longer fights I think Warp Sang is better. Especially since you can get Dim Shredder off faster unless rupture teams have another source of sloth... Getting Talismans to go off with gluttony res is also kinda huge I realised while playing rupture. I do need to do more testing with Ringsang. Maybe if a fight goes long enough that Ringsang can get S3's in hes better? Doesnt solve the gluttony issue though..
Well any thoughts on this team of mine? I am stuck on Ricardo. Wild Hunt Heathcliff Manor Outis Manor Faust Butler Ishmael I am not sure if I got the names right since I am not good with names. I am focusing on my Sinking team currently as my Charge Team isn’t ready yet without the Multicrack Faust. I have 130 egoshards for her and I am still stockpiling the remaining ones. Once I get her then that team is almost complete as I actually have all Charge characters except Faust and the other character you mentioned in that respective section of the video. Now outside of that whole thing… I have three Egos for Heathcliff. The base ego, binds, and I forgot the name of the other one but it is related to karma. Let’s just say that my Heathcliff is far stronger than the rest of my team. I also have no other notable egos as they are all base egos and the few other egos I have aren’t applicable to the team. I also have the 000 Meursalt for the Discard Sinking team. But I only have him and the Yi Sang for it. Is that even any good? I am still new to the whole Project Moon series as a whole so I would like some help. Also I did purchase the Limbus Pass as I maxed the thing out before getting it and that is how I got Binds and Wild Hunt.
as a relatively new player who decided to make a rupture team first cause i got seven assoc faust, haha im in pain at the very least mirror dungeons will never be a problem (Hell's Chicken rupture gift my goat)
While there are things I disagree with (BL Yi Sang not being a candidate for Poise core, Rime Shank being considered essential anymore even though it's still really good...), you're generally correct enough that I can't say that you'd be sabotaging newbies either. But man, little details of potential flaw aggregate to "what else can I not trust?" for me.
BL Sang isn't better than the IDs I listed in the top 3 for poise though? Especially for a new player. Rime Shank is still the leading reason for Sinking being a strong effect, without it the team would get a lot less consisntet. Also all of the real flaws are going to be adressed in the pineed comment, so it's easily visible. I understand that I tend to get a lot of things wrong, especially considering how I write the scripts to these videos, but I will do my best not to spread too much misinformation.
these recommendations might make me tweak, dawnclair isn't in top 3? But bullet outis is? Bro Magic outis takes longer to do higher dmg whereas dawnclair can inflict more burn and profit off it at insane speeds
Time to bookmark this lol, i managed to shard detective hong lu yesterday so now i gotta grind everlasting and then im good (other than maybe rosespanner rodya) EDIT OH GOD SEASON 7 ISS SO CLOSE GOTA GRIND AWAY
iirc no character is unobtainable forever. However, the Identities from one season are unobtainable in the next season, but obtainable after that. Also Walpurgis-night IDs are only available during Walpurgis-night events, which come every few months. The newest Walpurg identities are obtainable only through extraction in every Warpurg event, while older ones can be crafted. The reason why I'm giving alternatives to limited IDs is because the latest Walpurg event has just ended, and new players watching this video will not be able to obtain them for a while.
@@ultranumhere but we have a MultiCrack Office Rep Faust that was in this season but it can't be crafted. That's because it was just for the event? Does this mean that she will be in the next season
@@ultranumhere что ж, полагаю акценты всез славянских народов (или по крайней мере определённого процента) в английском языке похожи. А моё предположение было основано на том, что уже видел ответы на коментарии на русском, подобно этому
I am here to save 30 minutes of your time 1 Use untis which inflict the same effect, the more potency and the count the better 2 Using 6 best untis in the game and balling is reliable strategy
"Ultimate guide" Shitty and incredibly shallow, not even mentioning half of the important units for most teams and recommending running yuro hong lu OR regret faust instead of just both (and many similar cases). Unironically the shittiest team building ever. Also ringsang in rupture is such a fucking meme
RingSang actually works really well in Rupture teams lol The dude works fucking everywhere But RingSang works well because of how his S2 rerolls works with Talismans; He almost always has a 100% chance of rerolling from 1 Talisman. In longer fights, WSang is prolly better; But RingSang just makes every fight a short fight.
Everyone in the discord agrees that this dude is full of shit, just look up his name. Just people complaining about his half baked takes and major script flaws
@@boxtupos7718 have you considered 3 count negative/3 count negative/ 4 count negative? It's whatever in md since count is a nonissue, but anywhere else ring sang eats way too much count and only goes nuetrsl if you get lucky and hit a 1/5. Going positive is insanely unlikely.
Cap ish is the mvp in any pride res turn wich you do alot as a poise team, helps ramp up the poise since extra skill=lmao, empower next pride skill making even the shittier skills Clash high and actually deal dmg,for example bl don ,bl sault and bl yisang get to use 2 boosted +2 power and +2dmg up skills in a row+3 offense up for no reason. tldr Pride res goes brrr
Faust takes ages to get to work properly since You need to crit for period flowers, if they only consumed on crit they would be waaay better but as they stand they are inconsistent, ish is so braindead to get to work it's not Even close (both as supports)
@ultranumhere It's been like a week since I started playing the game and I'm one of the rare gatcha players who can actually read the charecters kits and mechanics and I still don't really understand the game much , it must be really painful for your average gatcha game player
I do not agree that charge is a blunt damage type. it's a mix of slash and blunt. I also disagree with the Heathcliff multicreak about the charge, when the rabbit is much stronger in 90% of circumstances, and weaker only in very long battles. and so the video is good
I would say wdon is better then multi crack cliff since i just use him for passive also the fact she has telipole make wdon kinda core with how instant she can make everyone use there nuke skill
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The number at the start is most definitely wrong. If anybody wants to correct me, feel free to reply with the actual amount.
Edit: my Bleed information is, in fact, wrong, and clashing while winning does not affect Bleed count. This only affects one part of the Bleed segment, however it is a big mistake.
As an apology, here's another fun Bleed mechanic: when an enemy is inflicted with enough Bleed to kill them, you can speed up the process by losing clashes on purpose. Every time a coin is broken in a clash (or a tie occurs), Bleed procs, meaning that if you purposefully put a weak skill up against the enemy, you get a Bleed proc for every coin in your skill. This works especially well on characters with a 3-coin s1 (Ring Yi Sang on top once again)
Just make sure that you don't get staggered if a skill next turn would have dealt more damage than the additional procs of Bleed this turn. (Obviously irrelevant if using this trick allows you to close out an encounter on a given turn)
Nope, I recounted all the ids, used a possible combinations calculator and got the same number of 2,813,729,380 (without repetitions, with repetitions it's 3,652,745,460). So, good job on that
You are right to think that this number is wrong. If you use a possible combinations calculator online and plug in the amount of identities and the team size you will get exactly that number, but that calculation did not account for the fact that you can only use one identity per sinner, so it couns a team composed by 6 yi sangs as a valid team. In reality, the number should be lower. But it still a fucking lot, by my calculations it is around 0.5 to 0.6 billions (not 2.8 billions)
i did not calculate with precision because the sinners having a different amount of IDs make the precise calculations way more boring to make, and i am too lazy to download a better calculator app and do it
Since I'm not smart enough to come up with a mathematical way of reasonably finding the number, I just made a program that would brute force it and come up with every possible sinner team combination(no permutes) and then multiplied each sinners identities by each other within each possible team combination.
The total team combinations before Zwei Ishmael is 713,173,930
With Zwei Ishmael there are 751,466,800 total combinations
Yi sang being a cornerstone in 4 of the status archetypes is crazy.
The GOAT
The IDEAL man
Korean moment
He is a genius after all
thats the ideal
Solemsang and wild hunt heath fuming for not getting mentioned in the sinking team
Tbf you can put WHeath in any team and he'll still do reasonably well. Besides he's VERY count negative except for his skill 3
@@Ncorpsinclairactually you can spam his counter to maintain the sinking count.
@@Ncorpsinclairmanors says no
@@derbozz1350yeah I forgot it's +1 count
@@Water_Connoisseur yeah I forgot (I don't use sinking team if you can't tell)
SL Yi Sang not being mentioned is nuts. He honestly does WAY more for the entire team with better overall damage than deluge man. Unless you're running MD, SL Sang is core either way. Other than that, good video.
no but if I put 2 yi sangs in the sinking top 3 people might actually catch onto my bias
True…
@@ultranumhere It's not bias if it's true
@@ultranumhere it ain't just your bias, it's PMs bias
@@ultranumhere lmaoo based
Was kinda surprised in not seeing Wild Hint Heathcliff. He’s damage scales not only on Dullahan and Coffins, but on amount of sinking on enemies as well, which I found to be really useful
Yu Sang my depressed boywife is carrying teams across every mirror world 😂
i love him
BACK OFF. he’s mine………………..
@@maximaizaa Shhh, he's our
as a burn lover, the burn part of the video genuinely makes me want to jump in a container full of raw Kcorp ampules
So isnt longer going to be Samjo flavored Montain Dew?
My girl Butler Ryoshu not being mentioned is pain. I know her main draw is really just her high clash values, Speed, and 2 Skill ATK Weight, but her poise generation is so self efficient its insane.
That saie she's probably best mentioned in a generalist/unga bunga team, huh?
fucking *loved* when i rolled the comments down and saw a bunch of *essays.*
For a new player trying to decide what IDs to get, this comes at a good time
what did you end up getting?
@@LacroseLax I grinded a lot and got all the S4 stuff except Butler Faust, Contempt Awe and Dimension Shredder Outis. I also got enough for Molar Ish and Cinq Sinclair. I am still debating if I should try farming more for Butler Faust or something for Rodion
My strongest team is sinking and then Tremor. I'm considering investing in an ungabunga team now to winrate through the main story with IDs like Multicrack Faust, W Ryoshu, Cinq Sinclair, BL Mersault, WH Heathcliff and dieci Honglu. Someone told me that might be good since there are bosses that resist status teams.
@@MultiBatikanI recommended getting Faust first because season is about to end and Butler Faust is a season ID. After the season changes, you won’t be able to shard her for a whole season. which means u have to wait for season 6. I personally always have Butler Faust in my sinking team for Fluid Sac and Echoes of manor passive
That's the plan, need to speedrun md runs after work
As someone who mains the Blade Lineage Team, consider your bones claimed. I will not tolerate such disrespect for BL Sang and BL Sinclair while BL Faust is simultaneously being promoted as one of the best Poise IDs. BL Sang is very reliable as you can quickly fulfill his passive's conditionals, which make his skills' max rolls arguably better than BL Faust's, and additionally, his S3 deals much more damage compared to BL Faust's S3. While BL Sinclair's S1 and S2 aren't as good as BL Faust's, his S3 deals a ton of damage on crit, applies a good amount of paralyse, and has the added bonus of turning human enemies' corpses into a bunch of giblets if he overkills them by a lot. In conclusion, I have no clue why you put BL Faust onto the "strongest units" section for Poise but I hope and pray with all sincerity that she gets obliterated and replaced with BL Sang or another ID who has more usage in non-BL Poise teams, such as Pequod Ish. (In case you are unfamiliar with her usage on Poise teams, her S2 pairs well with Poise teams because it contributes to and benefits from Poise Pride chains, and can allow other Poise allies to build Poise quicker because of the Poise gen on their S1. Her passive and S3 after attack effect are also very good for helping allies quickly build up their Poise, and unlike Kimsault, the Poise generation isn't limited to a specific faction.)
Ultranum triggered his Trap Card.
Holy yap😨
As someone who finally got my BELOVED BL Meursault and is keeping for BL Sang, and BL Don to get better for his poise and make my beloved stronger, I’m sooo relieved to read your comment after watching the part about Faust! lol
For one second I thought I researched wrong.
I’m keeping for BL Sang, next I wanted BL Don to get more poise, then the Maid Ryoshu, keep my Arpoon Heathcliff (He has poison as well), and then, I don’t know? Level up my Kurokumo Rodion to use her?
Wanna help me?
I love Blade Lineage!
Thank you for your comment! Greetings from Brazil!
🤍⚔️
imo t don is less of a priority in tremor teams, since time moratorium can sometimes screw you over, and changing all of your tremor type into tremor chain is not the best if you want to deal damage with tremor reverb
i would also say that yurodivy honglu is almost certainly integral to an optimal tremor team, because cavernous wailing is *the* tremor reverb ego for easy conversion
I'm genuinely surprised that you suggested ring sang over W Sang for rupture tbh, especially cuz W Sang + Rambling Man (Dim Shredder passive) is a match made in heaven for rupture teams.
You should check out wAgent's video on Rupture, he goes in depth on this issue
@@ultranumhere oh Yeah, I hadn't finished it. That's on me for only using rupture in MD where gifts like card and branch make count application and charge a nonissue lmao. I can definitely see why W Sang isn't good outside of content where he gets more slots and MD.
@@ultranumhere Also had severely underestimated how absolutely busted ring sang was. 💀
Thanks king honestly wanted this
9:06
Funnily enough, I installed Limbus 5 days before this Walpurisnaught ended.
Got Dawn Office Sinclair while trying to get SL Yi Sang and/or RE+P Ryōshū'
Sinclair is a great pull for story mode ngl, congrats!
@@ultranumhere thanks! He carried the Canto 3 Dungeon with the burn :3 👍
18:57 i disagree here sinking is amazing for humanoid fights as 90% of humanoids have positive coins so keeping their sanity low and making them panic greatly improves clash potential
I don't consider the ability to decrease an enemy's SP very strong, when other teams like Burn can just beat the encounter 3 turns faseter. Also Sinking is incredible on bosses, and deserves much more recognition than an ok effect on human fights
@@ultranumhere 3 extra turns of safe sin generation isn't necessarily a bad thing.
Just my opinions:
For poise: i think BL Don is one of the core id that help gaining a lot of poise.
For charge: Don telepole and outis need to be mention
You forgot faction teams such as withering and W.Corp as they usually focus on 1 status (W.Corp with their charge barrier) cuz some units (mainly n corp) do get better the more units of the same faction are alive
First of all, congratulations on another amazing video, great explanations as always, that said, i'd like to share some things that (for me) were noteworthy;
For Bleed, i really enjoyed the bleed segment talking about how to approach different enemies (single/multi parts and coin amount), it was something that i felt like deserved some focus in the bleed video, so i'm happy to see it talked about in a video directed to begginers;
For Poise, i think that i'd reccomend BL Don over Cinq Sinclair as a main unit, since despite her lower strength, her capability of contributing to allies' poise, even if they aren't a BL ID, warrants her a spotlight, specially since Meursault's passive only gives poise and his unique buffs to other BL IDs, which means that non BL IDs wouldn't benefit as much from Meursault's support;
For Rupture, i'd just like to put for begginers that Yi Sang can be run both with his W or his Ring ID, with Ring being better for count but being RNG-reliant while W is more on the standard rupture ID side of things, though requires some charge ramp-up for S2 and S3 to inflict rupture count, but also offers haste on self to help with DS' passive;
For sinking, i'm gonna skip the on-going debate seen everywhere of whether Rime Shank is still necessary or not, rather i'm here to shoutout Ishmael's new EGO, which is sinking focused (and is the only EGO able to inflict Echoes of the Manor (EoM)) and the strange interaction between Yi Sang's Bygone Days (which btw, helps Spicebush clash better) and EoM, where due to the way Yi Sang's EGO applies its sinking potency, which is it applies 1 potency at a time even on the same target, it can apply a lot of count on an enemy with EoM due to the latter's effect of 50% chance of inflicting 1 sinking count when an enemy receives any sinking infliction;
As for Tremor, i'd simply swap Hong Lu with Don given that Hong Lu has (currently) the only sources of Tremor - Reverb;
Lastly, non-obligatory sinners in this video's top 3s (including limiteds and non-limiteds), just for the fun of it:
-Yi Sang (4/7): Bleed (Ring), Burn (Ring, as a non-limited), Rupture (Ring + DS EGO), Sinking (Spicebush);
-Faust (5/7): Bleed (Grip), Charge (MC), Poise (BL), Rupture (Seven), Tremor (Regret [Limited] + Everlasting);
-Don (2/7): Rupture (Lantern, limited), Tremor (T);
-Ryoshu (1/7): Bleed (REP, limited), Charge (W);
-Meursault (1/7): Poise (BL);
-Hong Lu (1/9): Tremor (Yurodivy + Cavernous Wailing [sole sources of "yellow tremor"], non-limited);
-Heathcliff (1/7): Charge (MC);
-Ishmael (2/7): Burm (Liu, non-limited), Sinking (Molar);
-Rodion (2/7): Burm (Liu), Sinking (Dieci + Rime Shank EGO);
-Sinclair (3/7): Burn (Dawn, limited), Poise (Cinq), Rupture (Talisman, non-limited);
-Outis (3/7): Bleed (Ring, non-limited), Burn (MB, limited), Tremor (Molar);
-Gregor (0/7): - ;
As seen above, we can conclude that the moral of this video is that if you want to be chosen more for important roles, be smart.
Surprised you didn’t mention Heathcliff’s Bind Ego having such an insanely broken passive for res teams
@@tempestgreen1125 you're totally right, this is my second time forgetting binds, I should've mentioned it
It’s crazy that liu Ishmael is not in the top 3 slot simply because of Ador Star Blossom and how much potency you can spread to everyone
I feel like Burn is easy enough to inflict that the bonus damage from Rodya's passive (also free damage on s3) are better than its effect. I should've definitely mentioned ABS when talking about Ishmael, though.
Also, for rupture
>mentions spark discharge
>doesn’t display gregor
cuz rosepanner gregor is a terrible ID, and putting it in an ID spotlight solely because of AEDD feels wrong.
I mean either him or 7 heathcliff. Also rosespanner gregor can solo fuel(although not efficient) AEDD
Did you only looked prydwen when doing this video or what ? Because it’s wrong on so many level I can only recommend it as something to not watch
Howbout story team or the unga bunga team
The what
@@ultranumhere They asked about an instruction to a team that requires the least brainpower which is ironic in its own right
unga bunga team is lcb sinners, literally no thinking needed.
Story team is "Evil" version of sinners (cockroach, gripclair, bushsang, ahab, wildcliff) not because it's any good but because it looks amazing.
@@dnqxt_dfnclair finna wipe the smile off your face REAL quick 😂
Just use 6 damage dealers, preferably one of which have a healing EGO. You can get through every fight in the game so long as you can fuel a healing EGO
Rupture fans on suicide watch
at least they can enjoy the superiority of knowing that they're playing the hardest team
Im still holding hope for moses rupture for walpurgis…
@@satella8963 farmwatch just a week away
If Rupture was too easy to stack Count on, there'd be no reason to use any other team. Not even for damage types either, because Rupture ignores all weaknesses.
Wait for Outis's canto bro
I'm new to the game and after a few rerolls I got some good rupture Id's, Cinq Meursault, Devyat Rodion and Seven Assoc Faust, would that be a good start? I heard that rupture is not very friendly to new players.
Hm, have you ever noticed that Talismans and Dimensional Rifts (and arguably electric discharge or however that AEDD thing was called) aren't considered unique Rupture? (Or unique charge in case of ED)
Love how this is by far the worst guide I have ever see
@Fango9487 the bleed fuckup is unfortunate
Wcorp YS with Dim Shredder is not a better option for rupture than Ring YS? I have all of them so i would like to know which ID to use
I recommend watching wAgent's video on Rupture to understand it better
if ur not using egos use w corp
Most sinking cornerstones have pride. I have a full sinking team (no rodion because i dont like rimeshank) and i have 3 pride skill 1's. Before wildhunt heathcliff came out i only had 1 envy skill. Sloth is also relatively common but if you are using the real sinking cornerstones. Linton gregor for great clashing and a incredibly count positive skill 2, butler outis for echoes of the manor and molar ishmeal for a passive that when in effect makes it impossible for her to be count negative on an enemy with tremor. You will see how rare envy is. Also while i cannot disagree with the choice of rodion I can disagree with spicbush, while spicebush is crack and i am addicted to his damage numbers in md, compared to Solemn lament Yi sang he is really the best in MD. Outisde of MD SL Yi sang is a potency monster and does crazy damage. Also dont sleep on wild hunt heath, because while he is generally good in any team his synergy with butler outis, and sinking in general makes him the king of damage in sinking (which is a team with already amazing damage). Just a samll rant, im not yet finished with the story so i havent really tried other archytypes but i will say that sinking is such a fun archytype, and turn 2 deluge is real, based, balanced and makes you feel superior with your 8000 damage in 2 turns.
Have to ask why did you put Dimension Shredder Outis as an envy resonance EGO and not Electric Screaming Meursault? Seems like Outis only gains attack weight and nothing else
Because generally DS Outis is more relavant than ES Meur due to Outis having a better Charge ID than both of Meur's. You're right in pointing out that ES Meur gets a lot more buffs from resonance, though.
Ranking Faust or Cinqlair as more important on poise teams than Captain Ishmael feels like a joke
ALSO PUTTING T DON OVER DYVAT HONG LU IS FUCKING CRININAL
HONG LU IS LITERALLY THE REASON *WHY* TREMOR WORKS AS HES THE ONLY ACCESS TO REVERB RUPTURE
Don belongs in the honorable mention slot, NOT Hong Lu
These lists are fucking wild, im not even gonna talk about sinking
I haven’t watched the video yet but if burn or envy res is done dirty I’m writing an essay
…WHAT THE FUCK
the fact that you didn’t mention the PANTHEON on strong egos that burn has is a CRIME you skipped past all of the nuence and complexity that making a burn team comes with like if your focused around meeting conditions or just dealing damage and even then how are you dealing that damage? Is it with the status or with strong skills and ego? You also got to account for what kind of SP healing you bring cause it helps a ton thanks to burn using a lot of ego or just eating SP, do you use blind obsession at a steep cost but massive sp heal or do you just rely on passives to heal sp like base Lu, yi sang and Nfaust or maybe an in between and use a cheaper sp healing ego like bygone days or even the question of if you use contempt awe for the passive and that is simple scraping the surface I haven’t even gotten into the Liu ryoshu vs meursault
You didn’t even mention envy res, die
the burn part is a crime against humanity :sob:
@@perdiconta95 don’t even get me STARTED on how he brought up ring FUCKING yi sang
@@alastellabears8083
not talking about how ardor blossom ishmael is just free 6,9,12 burn EVERY TURN helping you stack it extremely quickly
how FMF rodya is good to further boost wrath damage (all you go for)
capotle meursault just being one of the best egos in the game
and butler ryoshu being a good burn unit despite not having a singular burn skill! the fact that her typing is perfect, s1 for whistles and s3 for the wrath res nukes (what you want to go for) while also being able to further boost FMF damage with crit + passive just make her so good
@@perdiconta95 I agree accept for that last part, people need to stop trying to make none Burn IDs work, they don’t. Adding to the burn stack AND doing a lot of that but slightly worse is far more important
That's crazy. Almost like every part of this video follows a set pattern and doesn't go too in depth. I have a playlist of actually helpful guides on my channel, and burn is the next team that will be added there. You can check that video out once it releases, your input will be taken into account.
Also how is RingSang bad for burn?
Actually think a discussion on whether Ringsang or Warp Sang is better for a rupture team would be interesting.
I think Ringsang is better early for rupture but weaker late.
Because Warp Sang has amazing sin affinities. S1 is sloth which rupture teams are lacking. Currently in the rupture team I use the only source of sloth is Warp Sang's S1. Which you need for Dim Shredder which is essential for the team. S2 is gluttony which is super important for talisman turns and for K corp ampules. S3 is Gloom which is decent for Gregor AEDD but otherwise not too useful.
You should check out wAgent's video on Rupture. He goes over both Yi Sang identities, and ultimately lands on RingSang being better. I also support his opinion because W Sang's reliance on Charge makes him very weak early, and also weak after every s3. RingSang also deals huge damage due to working well alongside all the unique effects in Rupture, so he's just firing on all cylinders
@@ultranumhere oh yeah I watched that video. The video was talking about the context of resetting for talismans and ringsang immediately working whereas Wsang taking time to setup. I think for old railway or just resetting fights and with talismans reset strat Ringsang is better. For longer fights I think Warp Sang is better. Especially since you can get Dim Shredder off faster unless rupture teams have another source of sloth... Getting Talismans to go off with gluttony res is also kinda huge I realised while playing rupture.
I do need to do more testing with Ringsang. Maybe if a fight goes long enough that Ringsang can get S3's in hes better? Doesnt solve the gluttony issue though..
@@AudibleNoiseContentring sang better if u have ego resources but w corp is better for story content and thread lux
Also, you didn't mentioned the *KMS team...*
*Perish.*
Well any thoughts on this team of mine?
I am stuck on Ricardo.
Wild Hunt Heathcliff
Manor Outis
Manor Faust
Butler Ishmael
I am not sure if I got the names right since I am not good with names.
I am focusing on my Sinking team currently as my Charge Team isn’t ready yet without the Multicrack Faust. I have 130 egoshards for her and I am still stockpiling the remaining ones. Once I get her then that team is almost complete as I actually have all Charge characters except Faust and the other character you mentioned in that respective section of the video.
Now outside of that whole thing…
I have three Egos for Heathcliff.
The base ego, binds, and I forgot the name of the other one but it is related to karma.
Let’s just say that my Heathcliff is far stronger than the rest of my team. I also have no other notable egos as they are all base egos and the few other egos I have aren’t applicable to the team.
I also have the 000 Meursalt for the Discard Sinking team. But I only have him and the Yi Sang for it. Is that even any good?
I am still new to the whole Project Moon series as a whole so I would like some help. Also I did purchase the Limbus Pass as I maxed the thing out before getting it and that is how I got Binds and Wild Hunt.
as a relatively new player who decided to make a rupture team first cause i got seven assoc faust, haha im in pain
at the very least mirror dungeons will never be a problem (Hell's Chicken rupture gift my goat)
I’m pretty sure the bleed information is wrong, iirc bleed only procs once per clash, specifically when a tie occurs or when either side loses a coin.
@@The42ndTorian aaaand we finally found the Ultranum-patented grave mistake in a guide video. You're right, Bleed doesn't work like that.
While there are things I disagree with
(BL Yi Sang not being a candidate for Poise core, Rime Shank being considered essential anymore even though it's still really good...), you're generally correct enough that I can't say that you'd be sabotaging newbies either.
But man, little details of potential flaw aggregate to "what else can I not trust?" for me.
BL Sang isn't better than the IDs I listed in the top 3 for poise though? Especially for a new player.
Rime Shank is still the leading reason for Sinking being a strong effect, without it the team would get a lot less consisntet.
Also all of the real flaws are going to be adressed in the pineed comment, so it's easily visible. I understand that I tend to get a lot of things wrong, especially considering how I write the scripts to these videos, but I will do my best not to spread too much misinformation.
SL Yi sang & WHeath not mentioned = L Guide
its here, also i just go ooga booga and select the best ids
that was how I beat the story mode back on release as well, so it's not the worst strat lol
Really help full awesome, even i have 800h this help me (OwO)
these recommendations might make me tweak, dawnclair isn't in top 3? But bullet outis is? Bro Magic outis takes longer to do higher dmg whereas dawnclair can inflict more burn and profit off it at insane speeds
@@AesopNewman did you... watch the video with your monitor off?
@ultranumhere yes ::))
I'm surprised he didn't mention Wild Hunt ONCE in the sinking section... and the comment section too lol.
How about an ultimate guide for MDH?
@@lighting0b450 I think there's one already. I'll be making one for the next MD for sure tho
Hoping season 5 will be the season of rupture and maybe bleed (because bloodfiends duh)
All I’m looking for in a team is whether or not Yi Sang has a good ID there. I’m eating good.
Time to bookmark this lol, i managed to shard detective hong lu yesterday so now i gotta grind everlasting and then im good (other than maybe rosespanner rodya)
EDIT OH GOD SEASON 7 ISS SO CLOSE GOTA GRIND AWAY
If you have T Corp Rodya, she's good enough, I think
Good...Good...Ring Sang Rupture Propaganda continues to spread
I'm making a video on why he's the strongest in a couple days, Ring Yi Sang is my goat
@@ultranumhere Oh that’s so funny, I was working on the exact same video premise. Ring Sang is just so goated
@wAgent I might not be making that video then lol, great content btw, I'm a fan
W corp stocks on the decline
how to understand that the character is exclusive and will not be there later
or they will then appear in personalized banners
iirc no character is unobtainable forever. However, the Identities from one season are unobtainable in the next season, but obtainable after that. Also Walpurgis-night IDs are only available during Walpurgis-night events, which come every few months. The newest Walpurg identities are obtainable only through extraction in every Warpurg event, while older ones can be crafted.
The reason why I'm giving alternatives to limited IDs is because the latest Walpurg event has just ended, and new players watching this video will not be able to obtain them for a while.
@@ultranumhere but we have a MultiCrack Office Rep Faust that was in this season but it can't be crafted. That's because it was just for the event? Does this mean that she will be in the next season
Por alguna razón, entre todas las guías que he visto, creo que esta guía que más puedo entender xd
ah yes, captain Ishmael the support id that also does some of the most damage in the game
1:43
If it was that simple it would be awesome imagine having three wyoshus and a pequod Ishmael
Lol I wish
Nice!
Я будто очень чётко слышу русский акцент, а так видео топ.
что не то чтобы сильно удивительно, ведь он русский
Не русский
@@ultranumhere что ж, полагаю акценты всез славянских народов (или по крайней мере определённого процента) в английском языке похожи. А моё предположение было основано на том, что уже видел ответы на коментарии на русском, подобно этому
Thank you
Nice.
so much information
there's even more in the pinned comment, make sure to check it out as well
I am here to save 30 minutes of your time
1 Use untis which inflict the same effect, the more potency and the count the better
2 Using 6 best untis in the game and balling is reliable strategy
Good video, just a small disagreement. Keep the good work
did you comment about W Sang initially and then deleted it, or was that someone else?
W video
"Ultimate guide"
Shitty and incredibly shallow, not even mentioning half of the important units for most teams and recommending running yuro hong lu OR regret faust instead of just both (and many similar cases). Unironically the shittiest team building ever.
Also ringsang in rupture is such a fucking meme
RingSang actually works really well in Rupture teams lol
The dude works fucking everywhere
But RingSang works well because of how his S2 rerolls works with Talismans; He almost always has a 100% chance of rerolling from 1 Talisman.
In longer fights, WSang is prolly better; But RingSang just makes every fight a short fight.
Everyone in the discord agrees that this dude is full of shit, just look up his name. Just people complaining about his half baked takes and major script flaws
@@boxtupos7718 have you considered 3 count negative/3 count negative/ 4 count negative? It's whatever in md since count is a nonissue, but anywhere else ring sang eats way too much count and only goes nuetrsl if you get lucky and hit a 1/5. Going positive is insanely unlikely.
@@Imgoingtoalice its bcs of dimshred and his skill one being gloom for aedd
16:54 ???????
Where 7Cliff?
he's like top 5 most influential imo, pretty much barely didn't make the cut
Rupture is not the worst imo burn is worse
Sinclair and Outis make it a lot stronger. Without them, it might be rupture level.
At least burn can build up count unlike rupture😊
@@First-to-last well I mean atleast the status effect does actual damage
@@Reynnan123until your count drops to 0. Burn IDs save for the 2* launch Liu IDs can actually clash with the conditionals active
Sinking 🤝 bleed
I fought Kim with sinking team without spicebush and won
FEAR ME
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yeah gg bleed lust pierce team wins GG
ay dont hate on my kuro ryoshu
Ring YiSang brainrot
Captain ish is way better for poise as a support than faust period flowers will ever be, fight me
Period flowers is crazy
Cap ish is the mvp in any pride res turn wich you do alot as a poise team, helps ramp up the poise since extra skill=lmao, empower next pride skill making even the shittier skills Clash high and actually deal dmg,for example bl don ,bl sault and bl yisang get to use 2 boosted +2 power and +2dmg up skills in a row+3 offense up for no reason. tldr Pride res goes brrr
Faust takes ages to get to work properly since You need to crit for period flowers, if they only consumed on crit they would be waaay better but as they stand they are inconsistent, ish is so braindead to get to work it's not Even close (both as supports)
I didn't have any identity that you showed >:(
my gorgeous wife yi sang carrying as always ❤
outdated. do another for zwei :3
Me the entire video : hhmmm yes I don't understand
that's alright, I'll reamke the video at some point lol
@ultranumhere
It's been like a week since I started playing the game and I'm one of the rare gatcha players who can actually read the charecters kits and mechanics and I still don't really understand the game much , it must be really painful for your average gatcha game player
❤
I do not agree that charge is a blunt damage type. it's a mix of slash and blunt. I also disagree with the Heathcliff multicreak about the charge, when the rabbit is much stronger in 90% of circumstances, and weaker only in very long battles. and so the video is good
bro had me punching the air everytime he lists the best ids
why is that
w don forgotten @@ultranumhere
w don is awesome, but I wouldn't put her over the multicracks or Ryoshu
Why the hell is spicebush "one of sinkings strongest ids"?! All he has is deluge when LobSang actually helps everyone else out
I would say wdon is better then multi crack cliff since i just use him for passive also the fact she has telipole make wdon kinda core with how instant she can make everyone use there nuke skill
Русский акцент, прикольно
Helo
hi
Bros drunk 💀
You weren't supposed to notice
Будто с листочка читал 😂
The 4 horsemen of status effects
Ring Yi Sang
Ring Yi Sang
Ring Yi Sang
Spicebush Yi Sang