@@judedonnelly4100 Funny, I didn't realize that those words were missing, my brain must have filled them in for me. When I read your comment, I thought, what the hell is this person going on about? lol
@@Mykle514he’s not enabling if you’re not married you won’t understand. People cheat to feel alive again if you look at the studies. They also feel sometimes that cheating will help them better love their partner because their partner lacks the emotional part. It isn’t justification for cheating but, and understanding on why.
@@elise7322I’m married and have been for a long time and I don’t understand this at all. Not everyone needs to look outside their marriage to “feel alive again”. I feel alive every time I see my husband staring at me when he thinks I’m not paying attention, when he comes into the room and hugs me, when we go to bed and he reaches out to hold my hand or touch me, when he tells me a new fact he learnt and we have an interesting conversation about it, when he smiles because I did something for him or told him I love him. We communicate well and we always have. I don’t understand how you can choose a person to love and be with and then decide to hurt them because they aren’t serving you in the way you want.
Oh yeah, I'd love to hear from the husband, too. That way, we can find out why he was dismissing her mental health struggles and posting photos of her online without her consent.
@@sabias3932this is all 1 side of the story. I have been rewatching Maury, the amount of times everyone just trusts one side is staggering. I do not believe he posted them without consent, she even said they talked about it. They talked about it, were actively pursuing a threesome together, and both reached out to the guy. The mental health is another issue. We need both sides of the story, and whose idea it was in the first place to pursue this. I can hear the deflection, and gaslighting. If that other person really spoke that way and manipulated her, that is wrong. But she chose to trust a stranger, who she has never spoke to or met rather than talking to her husband about it. She didn’t even give her husband a chance to talk about it when this stranger brought this all up. He deleted the pictures, account once she expressed she was uncomfortable and it wasn’t a fight. That is huge, if that isn’t a fight I don’t know what would be. There is no winner or loser in this situation, they both lost each other. The justification it was going to happen anyways, after they cancelled the first time is wild. People always say that is not me, that is self deflection to the highest level. It was you, and the sooner you accept you made a mistake, the sooner you can move on. If you constantly say that wasn’t me, or I wouldn’t do that you will never forgive yourself. We are all in control of our actions right or wrong, besides certain mental illnesses that make people feel or do things because of compulsion.
the photo posting kinda throws that out. he was a least a bit in on the fantasy. posting photos doesn't equal cheating, but it does imply he was on board for a significant portion of this
She is the victim hear. He posted her pics without permission then got her all in to the idea of cuckolding then changed his mind after telling her it was ok.. he confused her and made her cheat plus if he was doing right by her she wouldn't need to cheat. Gentlemen please your wife or someone else will and it will be your fault for not being good enough
@@robertstone9988no they spoke about it prior. He actually went through with it. His mistake was that he didn’t inform her he went through with it. Once she saw it up, she wanted to do it 100%. The idea was already their.
She is the victim. No body cheats for no reason. He drove her to it by not being thare for her then introducing her to a man who actually took the time to make her feel good about her self and feel wanted and needed. What kind of sick person wants there wife to sleep with a nother man then shames her for doing it? He's playing mind games and keeping her feeling guilty and confused so he can dominate the relationship. It's all power games and her being a woman in America in 2025 she has no power. Just being born a woman makes you a victim in this world. It's all up hill for them. That's why feminist are a thing and men's rights are a joke because everyone all ready knows they are at a disadvantage in this world. If you love wemon like I do you listen and don't speek. You might learn something
“Honey can we have a threesome with somebody I’ve already been sleeping with?”. Yikes….and posting inappropriate pictures of your partner is VILE. Please stay together so no one else has the misfortune of being in a relationship with either one of you.
Sounds like she wanted a threesome and he put pictures of her on the internet to advertise for one. So yeah, I think its her fault. Plus she already cheated 😂
@@Kivlor , Yep, she is just calling to get some sort of approval for her bad actions, she knows that she is wrong, but if she can surround herself with people who accept her for whatever she chooses to do, then she can not feel bad about it, and continue on.
I completely agree. People in denial just say that to make themselves feel better. That's a stupid phrase used by stupid people, especially for this topic of life.
Gain some emotional intelligence please. You are clearly lacking in this department. Of course this comment is coming from a man who’s been hurt before. And who now takes his hurt and anger out on women as a whole. That’s exactly what’s going on here with this dudes ignorant comment.
See the thing about many fantasies....you ALSO fantasize AWAY the negative things that can destroy your relationship and cross lines you should NOT cross.
The fact they gave some random guy their address is astonishing…..let alone everything else. She doesn’t regret doing it, she just wants hubby to be OK with what she did. She has zero remorse
Yeah. Doing this in your own home weird. Why not a seedy motel or hotel. These people are weird even beyond the pumping your wife on a site behind her back and her with a dude
Marriage, in my humble opinion, is between two people, in thought, word, and deed. Anything else needs to be called something else. Agreement to cheat is not in the definition of marriage. Why did they ever think their marital problems occurred because they didn't have a third party in the mix? How was it determined that a second man should be in the mix and not a second woman? How would the caller have felt if her husband wanted another woman with them? WHO came up with the idea first and why? If you don't want monogamy, don't get married. Crazy people!
My husband is a therapist that specializes in marriage counseling etc. if he is told that they are in an open relationship then he will not work with them. My husband said those relationships don’t last.
I think both the woman and man are insane: The man went and put photos of his wife without asking consent, he is at fault The woman went through her husband phone without permission, she is at fault The man doesn't support his wife emotionally when she is clearly stressed, he is at fault The woman decides to sleep with the other guy behind her husband back, she is at fault ... What I don't like is that this caller used specific points to show she was the victim of her horrendous actions, basically she was unhappy and wasn't feeling protected, so she cheated. By this logic we can justify any cheater behavior, since most people cheat when they are unhappy in their marriages. I wish John held this woman more accountable.
I may be biased here, or there may be some amount of conrfirmation bias going on from what I've seen, but I do feel like John is often far more lenient with women than men on this show.
@@briano9397 dude u just don't get it.. this is the problem in today's world u hear something it goes into your brain and comes out totally differently.. :D he said this is why people say that cheating saved our marriage.. he didn't say it people do!!!!! becasue its true!!!! Whether u like it or not... people burn down their marriages than start to communicate like they never did before or start to be honest and they build it up again and can move forward!!! so that fukin cheating did save their marriage!!!! :D cause otherwise would have kept going and maybe they get a divorce casue the marriage is boring
Don't forget "I'm not trying to justify it" immediately followed by "I was begging him to help me" And the doc responding "Sometimes cheating saves a marriage"
@briano9397 then it was the excuse that he works night shift. Which means he sleeps a lot during the day. So he wasn't paying enough attention to her so she went and laid with another man.
Wdym she readily accepted her share of blame. But dealing with the fact that her husband wanted to prostitute her is probably just overwhelmingly painful. They both made mistakes, her more than him in some ways and him more than her in others. Of course she's hurt and feels unsafe, he literally did not value her enough not to try to prostitute her. Idk about anyone else but I could not ever trust a man who did something like this. Then again I would NEVER even think about having sex with someone like this either. Absolutely disgusting.
Better yet…if you just stick to the new covenant Jesus brought us it not only makes you less stressed…but you come to realize it’s actually indescribably rewarding.
@@flashthecorgi2053"cheating can save your marriage". Idk how much more validating that can be. She pretends like she has 0 agency even blaming the other guy for her cheating. "Well the guy I cheated with said this and that". At no point did John make her own up to HER actions. Something she clearly has not done yet.
I think there's enough blame to go around,,and him posting pictures on a swinging site was a grievous move on his part so he kind of got the ball rolling
As if the second man did absolutely nothing to manipulate her or talk her into it. She screwed up, but her husband and her brought that man into their lives.
Affairs are never about the partner or the primary relationship. It is done by people with core wounds who are deeply hurt people and they need huge amounts of pain killers (can be alcohol, social media, shopping, drugs, work, etc). It's escapism for someone undergoing very difficult situations.
On the first caller, id love to see the husband call In all by himself. Then after a time again, have them both together. I think everyone can learn a lot from that sequence.
If the husband could/would call in without the wife around, it would be interesting. Otherwise, she'll be sitting there to make sure the story comes out the way she wants it to be told. But it would be really neat to hear the 3 sides of the story.
@@elgrek0249 oh I’m sorry I didn’t realize you were there and knew this couple personally. It’s almost like you’re just commenting based on anecdotal experience as am I…genius 🙄
Woman who are in LOVE with their husbands dont SLEEP with others lmfao. You love the "comfort, etc" like he is a good roommate. That's ALL. THEY WOULDN'T EVEN GO DINNERS WITH STRANGE MAN LET ALONE SLEEPING. DIVORCE ASAP.
Tell me you’ve been hurt before without telling me you’ve been hurt before. Lol go get some help instead of getting angry at random people on the internet you don’t even know. Lol
@@amiramaz lmao when the dude cheats its "he puts your life at risk with STDs". When the woman cheats its "your relationship is different now hut you can fix it!"
@kiney4473 once it happens, they need to d v o r c e. The husband sounds gross too, posting those pics online but she's worse for physically going through with it. Both should remain single.
Play twister, read books, sit and stare at each other. Love it. This goes for all relationships at any point. I bet if we put down the phones and had a conversation things would be different. We are loosing the ability to communicate. Let’s go
She’s acting like she’s just caught up in this confusing situation where she accidentally consensually slept with a stranger. Girl shut up you did it on purpose. She would’ve run it by her husband first if she didn’t want to step out on her marriage. Her husband isn’t perfect by any means but this wasn’t some confusing accident that happened to her. Grow up
Seriously what is wrong with people these days. Marriage equals covenant and sex is sacred in the marriage. Otherwise just do not get married!!! Arrrrg
Agree but I don't get the lack of considering this is dangerous as well in several ways. I worked in mental health and the yucky disease stuff. Don't understand taking risks....
I have always thought something felt wrong about Delony’s advice for married couples to be open about all of their fantasies and desires. And now I know why, because talking about it leads to situations like this. With our pornified culture, most fantasies are not healthy and nothing good will come from discussing them. (Already listened on Spotify)
Ah yes. Let people stuff down their fantasies so that the husband ( usually he's the one who does this), will hire a sex worker to fulfill the fantasies because his wife is too uptight ( like you) to role play or have fun.🙄 I'm not saying that inviting another entity to the bedroom is a good idea, but shutting your spouse down and judging them for normal fantasizing is a bad idea.
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There is no way this guy could ever trust her again. He may say he can, but it’s always going to be in the back of his mind.
@N1xteR I didn't say this is the same or equal. But posting pictures and organizing a threesome, it's already against the marriage vows. My point is, she's not the only one to blame for bad behavior.
@@N1xteR When it comes to breaking trust those are both pretty high on the list!!! He needs to take accountability as well. She sure is. But instead he's got a thousand questions about what happened with her and she's basically not addressing the betrayal of him posting without her knowledge sexually as bait for other men. What don't you understand
@N1xteR its just as violating as cheating. You're one of those men who looks at naked women and says "it's art" aren't you? It's lust and it is a violation of your commitment.
A doctor saying to a cheater “sometimes cheating saves a marriage” is like saying to an alcoholic “sometimes drinking is good for your health” what a strange thing to say.
she didn’t feel like he protect her but she goes and sleeps with the guy she wanted to be protected from? she wants her cake and to eat it too. how do you reason with people like her?
@@Arewewearethewaitingunknown He’s not fine with it and no his marriage has never gone through an affair. He treats people that have cheated with dignity and respect because most of them realize they they’ve already screwed up and don’t need to be beaten upside the head with it. She’s asking for HELP and guidance.
Where is this woman's agency? Is ANYTHING her fault? John dropped the ball with this call massively. If the genders were reversed this whole thing would have been entirely different.
He didn’t drop the ball at all. She already knows she screwed up. Even when John asked her the advice to other couples who want a threesome she immediately said NO. She knows she did wrong. John helped walked alongside her! He doesn’t have to shame, scream, and yell at her like this comment section wants to do. Him not doing those things is NOT dropping the ball.
@@RaleighLink Eww gross I’m not defending the call, I’m defending Delony because you people suck saying “he dropped the ball on this call” when he absolutely did not. He treated this woman with dignity and respect but also guided her towards the steps of rebuilding her marriage. Some people in this comments just want John to shame and yell at her.
@@flashthecorgi2053 "then my husband said I can't fix [your panic attacks]". He CAN'T. If a dude told Delony he was expecting his wife to fix his mental health challenges Delony would have fired back she can't. I doubt this husband has never tried to help her it just got to the point where he said I cannot give you the psychological support you need, but this woman has a victim complex so of course she says things in a way that paints her as the victim. Remember when she was talking about what the cheater was telling her; instead of John saying well that's a crock of sh*t it doesn't matter YOU are the one who said "I do" he let her go on blaming the cheater for her actions. Everyone is saying she took 0 accountability because she took 0 accountability and John let her run with it the entire call. Never in a million years is John telling a guy "well sometimes cheating can save a marriage".
Just in how she speaks you can tell she’s obfuscating and takes no accountability and even says her cheating was out of character. But it’s not, it’s in her nature she’s surprised it came out.
I’m not buying it. Here’s your options: 1. This story is fake 2. The story is real, but that means the “couple” is morally bankrupt and deserve each other and the weird hell they created. Who puts pictures of their SO on ANY website, without discussing it?? Also, now she feels like “he’s not protecting me” because he was willing to go through with something YOU BOTH AGREED ON?? I don’t buy it- mainly because I might lose it (sanity) if it is.
He created a threat by sharing her pic online first. Of course she felt unprotected when things got physical. She's definitely not innocent here but he'd already created mistrust by doing that first. She tried to be ok and go a long with it.. now they're both.... screwed, lol.
@@briano9397 holy smokes, you'd think that for someone posting the same comment repeatedly so confidently, that they wouldn't be so incorrect. He said "... that's why some people report that cheating saved their marriage". The context was openly communicating and being honest with each other. It wasn't the cheating, it was opening that line of honesty communication which had been closed for years.
john's generally pretty gentle with everyone. hardest he's gone is on that dude who fucked his wife's step mom. here, he reminded her that she fucked up and that she's the one who needs to atone pretty often. he justified every response her husband has had as normal and in need of being met by her if she wants the marriage to last. maybe you're just sensitive when men are on the receiving end? do you want him to call her a whooore and tell her to self delete? what response would satisfy you here?
Well he brushed over husband putting up actual pictures of his wife on dirty sites for ever and for the world to see. That's an actual crime, as it should be.
granted the guy shouldn't have posted her pictures, that's messed up af. But seriously lady?!?!? you're gonna talk about having a threesome with your husband and when you guys actually start going through with it suddenly he isn't protecting you? what a load of BS
“He didn’t protect me “ “So I slept with him anyways” the fact the women always has to make the guy bad then proceed to say “they made me cheat” is funny and the fact Jon just believes everything a women says
Dr deloney is so simpathetic to the caller to the point of being very hypocritical. If it was the man he would trash talk the wife and explain how liars always lie. I'm kinda over him
@@gmarie3053 I see what your are saying but it puts him in a weird space of does he actually believes what he is saying or it all a show and a service? Idk I'm kinda torn
I think the difference is both of the people were in on starting this fire. Also - she’s not slamming her husband. She straight up said: the minute this was done, it was the dumbest thing I’d ever done. And John tells her: well, he has reason not to trust you. This is what happens… but here’s how you start over. I don’t think he’s letting her off the hook. He’s walking her through how to restart their marriage.
Exactly, hence her feeling unsafe, she is unsafe. She's with a man who chose to prostitute his own wife for some sick fantasy and then freaked when it happened.
The 2nd story with the dude who lost his best friend, I felt that in my soul. Lost my best friend/sister right as we were both becoming mothers for the first time together…we’d been attached at the hip even after we both got married. Losing her destroyed the foundation of my life. Rebuilding was, and continues to be, the toughest trial I’ve had to endure, but I get my power and will to be the best me in her honor.
Let me guess 2 men and 1 woman?🙄 That is exactly why he backed out. If you already had 2 woman and 1 man then the husband punked you. She is saying she got manipulated into it...😑
Most likely. My husband once asked for a threesome 2 female/male. I laughed and said, Ok, you go first though 2 man/woman. He dropped that topic faster than a hot potato.
Many things in a relationship can be repaired, but when it's cheating, it's better to move on. The trust and loyalty are gone. That is like the base stats in a game; without that, there is nothing.
I'm sorry this woman cheated on her husband and now wants to play victim like she was taken advantage of by the stranger and that "she's not that type of person"? Classic. The woman always thinks she's the victim, even when she literally CHEATED.
Of course she isn’t a victim but let’s also acknowledge that the husband is wacko for wanting in on this fantasy and putting her pictures online. These are degenerate people.
The first caller is more empathetic toward herself than her husband… laughing, and portraying that he is over reacting all while proclaiming “it’s not in my character”. And now the poor girl is dealing with anxiety Sounds like a narcissist who should stick to loving herself and herself only. Poor guy
She has 0 remorse. It is so shocking to hear this whole story. It as if things just happened to her and oh poor her, she couldn’t say “no” or actually have a proper judgment .
They should get a divorce. He will NEVER be able to get over this. It will haunt him constantly. He will keep asking her questions to make it make sense but no matter what she says it will never make him feel better. It doesn't matter that they had communication issues or she had mental health issues. Everybody has those things but it doesn't justify what she did. He will never be able to accept it and move on. Their relationship was already over when this happened. There's no going back now.
These incredibly immature people should not be in a marriage. Good grief. This is disgusting, childish, sex-obsessed behavior. There are no adults here.
Sorry, my honesty doesn’t stop by women: she had the audacity to even come on phone to talk about that the way she did, and after everything what she did, wondered why got everything wrong? Girl you have no right to be angry at anyone. Especially not your husband. What I hear is ego playing out.
Young men, never continue a relationship with a cheater. Let her go, it will save you so much money, energy, attention, time and trauma. Don't ask any questions and you don't need any closer. Walk. This is one of the greatest test men go through.
@@UltraGalacticSuperFantastic Oh please, it's not easy to leave someone you have a close relationship with. For anyone. Men, woman, doesn't matter. It's hard to let go of how you thought your life was going to go.
Can't believe what Dr John is condoning. The first woman is the kind of person who never takes responsibility for her actions. It's always someone's fault.
He’s not condoning . He is speaking facts not opinions. My opinion would be that peeps leave their cheating spouses. Reality: A lot of marriages are able to come back from that mistake if some hard work takes place.
Caller #1 took absolutely no accountability for her actions. If her husband is smart, he'll leave. Also....is the husband gay or bi? Because I cant see any other way a man would be open to sleeping with another man....honest question.
There are plenty of straight men willing to have sexx with one woman at the same time. It’s the world we live in and probably the way the world has been for oh so long. Sounds empty to me.
She’s gonna go to her husband and say “you’re welcome, I just saved our message” John gave horrendous advice on this one, and didn’t acknowledge the egregious actions that she decided to take, and how she shattered his trust. Gross gross gross.
To be fair, it's not like the husband was innocent in this one. It was all a disaster. I think it would've been different if the husband had nothing to do with it.
Regarding the 2nd woman, I had a girlfriend who broke up with me 4 times. 3 times I took her back, the 4th time I sent her packing. About 3 weeks later I got a call from her late at night, I asked her why she was calling and she said it was because she loved me. My instinctive response was "You don't even like me." She fell completely silent and I never heard from her again.
This women is bad news. She justifies everyhting and take zero accuantbiblity. She is more annoyed more about husband askign questions and having issues. And she is also a victim is what I get out of this. This sis what she thinks.
I have to admit, I am disgusted by the woman’s tone of voice whilst talking about cheating behind her partners back. I don’t believe the events that took place pre-adultery.
Something tells me she's going to cheat again. She broke his heart, and still has so much resentment towards him. He's not perfect, sure, but she doesn't take accountabilty for anything.
Tbf neither has he. This is what happens to people who give in and indulge in this sort of perversion. I mean the dude was prostituting his own wife for some sick fantasy. Idk obviously but she sounds so utterly desperate for his attention that she's tried to conform herself into his fantasy and its eating her alive. Either way it doesn't sound like this is going to work out well for either of themselves. Unless of course they make a 180 and leave the world of sexual perversion behind entirely. This story doesn't end well as it is.
This thing where people burn their house, marriage, and family down for some extramarital sexual fantasy is INSANE. how can you validate these people???
When the husband posts a private photos of sexual nature that includes the wife (without her knowledge) that is a huge violation of trust, and that is not love. True love protects and cares for the the other person, and man especially are created/born/equipped to play this role in life. The truth is that a lot of man today have lost the connection or not learned from their fathers how to be a man in a relationship/in life, how to care and protects the woman and be there for her. Really good advice Dr.John 😊
My ex husband wanted an open marriage. I figured our marriage was over and he just wanted someone to have sex with until he could find someone else. I was furious and lost all respect for him. He tried for over 10 years to get back together but i couldn't even look at him. Gross
So instead of helping his wife out with her mental health crisis after moving away from their support system, he pimped her out on the internet without her knowledge or permission. Somehow that turned into her believing she was okay with it just to find she wasn’t. She then went to dude and stated this and he talked her through it and she did it. Now he’s mad bc she did it and she’s upset bc she betrayed him. She doesn’t trust him bc he left the emotional support out of the in sickness part of marriage. Sounds like there’s some respect lost. If he can set up a 3some online then he should be there when it counts. I feel like that was brushed over. Was she wrong? Yes but also does she want to keep working on a marriage where her partner abandons her needs when she needs him most? Obviously there was some safety in the other guy. She shouldn’t have sought it there but it was there to some degree. I feel like they can date again if they want but if they don’t handle the “issue” then they’ll never get back to 100%. I know he’s not on the phone but she’s clearly stated she felt blindsided and dismissed. That’ll sit on her heart until it’s worked through.
To Sarah, the second caller. I have another idea. Tell him he will need to take a break you decide how long a week? month, day’s ?( if you think he will leave ) or that you will me leaving with the kids for a break the next time he behaves abusive. Pack up some things you will need so it’s easy to leave or make arrangements with someone for him to stay with them. I heard this idea from Leslie Vernick which is also a good place to find support. As well find a licensed therapist for yourself who will see you both separately and is qualified for couples therapy. Church leaders are not therapists. My heart goes out to you.
John, I really respect you. I need to say that I notice a pattern; you don't tell female callers the truth about themselves. You are too easy on clearly narcissistic, malicious females. You speak to them like they're teenage girls. Where is the recognition that these women need serious mental help and accountability. This call was like trying to fight the LA fires with a spray bottle. I understand you love women, but sometimes tough love is the solution.
Yeah, i’m sorry Dr Deloney - I’m going to take a break from you for a bit. I can tell you are partial and overly compassionate to women, yet when men call in, that level of “over-compassion” and empathy is slightly more lacking. I’m not saying you’re not compassionate or empathetic to men, but you are also being pretty lenient on the first caller who obviously cheated on her husband pre-emptively (honestly the entire situation is a clusterf### b/c he’s not innocent either). The leniency is starting to be a trigger for me on this response. First caller - lady needs to wake up. Both she and husband need to seriously consider the weight and consequences of their actions and feel deep heart-wrenching soul-gutting absolute heinous disgust and remorse on themselves and tremendous guilt they have caused each other. Are they even human? I pray to the Lord they do NOT have children.
She made her cheating his fault by saying "oh well he didn't fight for me when the conversation of another man sleeping with me came up." No, no no. She just cheated period and that wasn't highlighted nearly enough. Her husband wont get over it in 2 weeks like she wants him to. She betrayed their marriage. I don't think she'll ever feel like she needs to take any accountability, especially not after this call.
Some fantasies need to remain fantasies … the first caller is exactly what happens when you are not self aware and you think that this just be fun because why not…. Then it is too late
The husband posting her pictures online is giving Gisele Pelicot vibes. Ladies, please stop entertaining this type of degeneracy. You will always be the one with more to lose, and you WILL lose.
I hate when people say they don't know how it happened. You arranged a meetup, got in your car and drove over. Slept with them, and then say you don't know how it happened. Give me a break
The only thing that is unfair about this channel is the fact that he is only getting one side of the story and giving possible life changing advice based on that 1 side of the story. A lot of ppl tend to lie or withhold some of the story.
Once you agree to open a door into you marriage, you will shocked at what will come into it. Marriage is a sacred space that needs to be protected.
Absolutely !
True ,,,
"YOUR" marriage..
"BE" shocked..
@@judedonnelly4100 Funny, I didn't realize that those words were missing, my brain must have filled them in for me. When I read your comment, I thought, what the hell is this person going on about? lol
Open the door, trash blows in.
"um yes I wondering how to unburn my house down!?"😂🎉❤
Indeed
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Johns language was so enabling in the first call. “Sometimes cheating saves a marriage” to a cheater..?
@@Mykle514he’s not enabling if you’re not married you won’t understand. People cheat to feel alive again if you look at the studies. They also feel sometimes that cheating will help them better love their partner because their partner lacks the emotional part. It isn’t justification for cheating but, and understanding on why.
@@elise7322I’m married and have been for a long time and I don’t understand this at all. Not everyone needs to look outside their marriage to “feel alive again”. I feel alive every time I see my husband staring at me when he thinks I’m not paying attention, when he comes into the room and hugs me, when we go to bed and he reaches out to hold my hand or touch me, when he tells me a new fact he learnt and we have an interesting conversation about it, when he smiles because I did something for him or told him I love him.
We communicate well and we always have. I don’t understand how you can choose a person to love and be with and then decide to hurt them because they aren’t serving you in the way you want.
I'd bet my life her husband has a completely different recollection of these events. This doesn't pass the sniff test at all.
The doctor saying "sometimes cheating saves a marriage" to the cheater, doesn't help
Oh yeah, I'd love to hear from the husband, too. That way, we can find out why he was dismissing her mental health struggles and posting photos of her online without her consent.
@@sabias3932this is all 1 side of the story. I have been rewatching Maury, the amount of times everyone just trusts one side is staggering. I do not believe he posted them without consent, she even said they talked about it. They talked about it, were actively pursuing a threesome together, and both reached out to the guy. The mental health is another issue. We need both sides of the story, and whose idea it was in the first place to pursue this. I can hear the deflection, and gaslighting. If that other person really spoke that way and manipulated her, that is wrong. But she chose to trust a stranger, who she has never spoke to or met rather than talking to her husband about it. She didn’t even give her husband a chance to talk about it when this stranger brought this all up. He deleted the pictures, account once she expressed she was uncomfortable and it wasn’t a fight. That is huge, if that isn’t a fight I don’t know what would be.
There is no winner or loser in this situation, they both lost each other. The justification it was going to happen anyways, after they cancelled the first time is wild. People always say that is not me, that is self deflection to the highest level. It was you, and the sooner you accept you made a mistake, the sooner you can move on. If you constantly say that wasn’t me, or I wouldn’t do that you will never forgive yourself. We are all in control of our actions right or wrong, besides certain mental illnesses that make people feel or do things because of compulsion.
the photo posting kinda throws that out. he was a least a bit in on the fantasy. posting photos doesn't equal cheating, but it does imply he was on board for a significant portion of this
Her lack of accountability is astonishing
She just called to justify her cheating by blaming the husband. What's new? Isn't this a pattern all over the cheating world?
Yes it is
You're probably right, because she seemed to lose enthusiasm when Delony took the focus off her and put it on how to rebuild her marriage.
She is the victim hear. He posted her pics without permission then got her all in to the idea of cuckolding then changed his mind after telling her it was ok.. he confused her and made her cheat plus if he was doing right by her she wouldn't need to cheat. Gentlemen please your wife or someone else will and it will be your fault for not being good enough
@@robertstone9988no they spoke about it prior. He actually went through with it. His mistake was that he didn’t inform her he went through with it. Once she saw it up, she wanted to do it 100%. The idea was already their.
She is the victim. No body cheats for no reason. He drove her to it by not being thare for her then introducing her to a man who actually took the time to make her feel good about her self and feel wanted and needed. What kind of sick person wants there wife to sleep with a nother man then shames her for doing it? He's playing mind games and keeping her feeling guilty and confused so he can dominate the relationship. It's all power games and her being a woman in America in 2025 she has no power. Just being born a woman makes you a victim in this world. It's all up hill for them. That's why feminist are a thing and men's rights are a joke because everyone all ready knows they are at a disadvantage in this world. If you love wemon like I do you listen and don't speek. You might learn something
“Honey can we have a threesome with somebody I’ve already been sleeping with?”. Yikes….and posting inappropriate pictures of your partner is VILE. Please stay together so no one else has the misfortune of being in a relationship with either one of you.
Sounds like she wanted a threesome and he put pictures of her on the internet to advertise for one. So yeah, I think its her fault. Plus she already cheated 😂
Yep, degenerates both of them.
They're really immature.
😂 fr
They sound perfect for each other
She's pretending to be innocent, and to justify why she cheated, but she isn't telling the whole story.
Absolutely
Yeah let's gloss over the fact that he tried to pimp her out😂😂
@unathirams , He tried? She pimped herself out, for free
"I'm not trying to justify it, but... I'm gonna justify it" I laughed out loud when we got to that part near the end.
@@Kivlor , Yep, she is just calling to get some sort of approval for her bad actions, she knows that she is wrong, but if she can surround herself with people who accept her for whatever she chooses to do, then she can not feel bad about it, and continue on.
Home girl is two weeks off of cheating and not an ounce of remorse
And John’s just..”oh…yeah. You’re such a victim here…he didn’t come running to his princess.”
@@DG-ee9hiJohn doesnt have good advice for marriages imho, he gives good advice on other stuff....bros probably a swinger....
Are we all listening to the same podcast?
@@BeingLiftedyes, what did you hear bud?
Women
Jerry Springer's show lives on in spirit.
😂that why I love these videos brings me springer vibes
😂😂
This happens more then thnk.
🤣🤣🤣
💯
"It was out of character for me completely". No it wasn't. The fact she did it means it IS in her character to do so.
No. if that was true, the statement "out of character" would not exist.
Your comment is genuinely nonsensical.
I completely agree. People in denial just say that to make themselves feel better. That's a stupid phrase used by stupid people, especially for this topic of life.
Gain some emotional intelligence please. You are clearly lacking in this department.
Of course this comment is coming from a man who’s been hurt before. And who now takes his hurt and anger out on women as a whole. That’s exactly what’s going on here with this dudes ignorant comment.
@@Naiimahh just because its exists in word form doesn't make it valid
See the thing about many fantasies....you ALSO fantasize AWAY the negative things that can destroy your relationship and cross lines you should NOT cross.
This is why I'm so against porn.
Wow, amazing perspective! You are 💯% correct 😊
That’s why women don’t support husband watching porn 😂 strip clubs etc and men don’t care 🤷♀️
“…the thing about many fantasies....you ALSO fantasize AWAY the negative things…” Awesome insight. I will be stealing this in the future!
What does this mean? Fantasize away?
The fact they gave some random guy their address is astonishing…..let alone everything else. She doesn’t regret doing it, she just wants hubby to be OK with what she did. She has zero remorse
Yeah. Doing this in your own home weird. Why not a seedy motel or hotel. These people are weird even beyond the pumping your wife on a site behind her back and her with a dude
People are so stupid. Marriages don't include extra sexual participants. Period. To even entertain that is to end the marriage.
Marriage, in my humble opinion, is between two people, in thought, word, and deed. Anything else needs to be called something else. Agreement to cheat is not in the definition of marriage. Why did they ever think their marital problems occurred because they didn't have a third party in the mix? How was it determined that a second man should be in the mix and not a second woman? How would the caller have felt if her husband wanted another woman with them? WHO came up with the idea first and why? If you don't want monogamy, don't get married. Crazy people!
@@maryansel932It sounds like the husband had the idea first. Try to follow along.
bc you ppl like addict toxic parasite sex. only sex non stop sex....
Amen
She’s obviously still sleeping with the new guy
My husband is a therapist that specializes in marriage counseling etc. if he is told that they are in an open relationship then he will not work with them. My husband said those relationships don’t last.
@@lulukay40 Your husband should also know that most relationships just don't last.
At least monogamous relationships have a chance 🤷🏻♂️@spacepope87
@spacepope87
Some diseases are easier to treat than others even though we all ultimately die.
Maam thats just called cheating , no need to call it a potential threesome. Thats just cheating with extra steps
I think both the woman and man are insane:
The man went and put photos of his wife without asking consent, he is at fault
The woman went through her husband phone without permission, she is at fault
The man doesn't support his wife emotionally when she is clearly stressed, he is at fault
The woman decides to sleep with the other guy behind her husband back, she is at fault
...
What I don't like is that this caller used specific points to show she was the victim of her horrendous actions, basically she was unhappy and wasn't feeling protected, so she cheated.
By this logic we can justify any cheater behavior, since most people cheat when they are unhappy in their marriages.
I wish John held this woman more accountable.
She's obviously a big liar, I don't believe a thing cming out of her
She's a horrendous person. Point blank period. He doesn't sound great either to be fair.
I may be biased here, or there may be some amount of conrfirmation bias going on from what I've seen, but I do feel like John is often far more lenient with women than men on this show.
Man, you hit the nail right on it's head. Everything about this setup is fuuuuuuucked.
@@merkuree You are not alone, I see many comments with your thoughts and I agree.
I hope they don’t have kids
Nai, nai, adelfós, xaxaxaxa.
For real.
Gosh I was thinking the same thing! And they probably shouldn’t in the future either.
Amen!
Sometimes i wonder how legit these calls are care and then i remember what kind of world we live in and, yeah, it tracks.
They are real. People call in because they have no one they can talk to about these things.
Easy to draw in these calls when you tell the cheater "sometimes cheating saves a marriage" this doc is a quack😂
Monogamy is not practiced as much as you think not many people talk about it cause people judge
Yeah he always sides with the cheating women and slams the men. So they feel empowered to call.
@@briano9397 dude u just don't get it.. this is the problem in today's world u hear something it goes into your brain and comes out totally differently.. :D he said this is why people say that cheating saved our marriage.. he didn't say it people do!!!!! becasue its true!!!! Whether u like it or not... people burn down their marriages than start to communicate like they never did before or start to be honest and they build it up again and can move forward!!! so that fukin cheating did save their marriage!!!! :D cause otherwise would have kept going and maybe they get a divorce casue the marriage is boring
"He posted photos of me"
"Im angry that he wanted me to do it"
"How do I help him with this emotions for me cheating" is anything her fault??
Right? Lol😂😂😂
Don't forget
"I'm not trying to justify it"
immediately followed by
"I was begging him to help me"
And the doc responding
"Sometimes cheating saves a marriage"
@briano9397 then it was the excuse that he works night shift. Which means he sleeps a lot during the day. So he wasn't paying enough attention to her so she went and laid with another man.
Yeah he always sides with the cheating women and slams the men. So they feel empowered to call.
Wdym she readily accepted her share of blame. But dealing with the fact that her husband wanted to prostitute her is probably just overwhelmingly painful. They both made mistakes, her more than him in some ways and him more than her in others. Of course she's hurt and feels unsafe, he literally did not value her enough not to try to prostitute her. Idk about anyone else but I could not ever trust a man who did something like this. Then again I would NEVER even think about having sex with someone like this either. Absolutely disgusting.
The moment my husband is okay with another man being intimate with me, ik my marriage is over. He no longer cherishes you.
We all know she initiated this insanity.
Facts 💯
@@ThroughHe Definitely, she is no innocent party in this.
wish my gf thought like this
@@Leispada she not to be taken seriously
It’s amazing how stress free one’s life can truly be if you just stick to the 10 commandments
Thats so fucking true
Better yet…if you just stick to the new covenant Jesus brought us it not only makes you less stressed…but you come to realize it’s actually indescribably rewarding.
I'm not married, so technically I stick with the 10 commandments. But I have over 100 s-partners and it releaves me a lot of stress.
@ good for you
🎯🎯🎯🎯
John spent almost half an hour validating this girls cheating. This show is off track
He didn’t validate her. She already knew she screw up. He gave her advice on how to rebuild her marriage.
@@flashthecorgi2053Fun fact: this woman is pure trash
@@flashthecorgi2053"cheating can save your marriage". Idk how much more validating that can be. She pretends like she has 0 agency even blaming the other guy for her cheating. "Well the guy I cheated with said this and that". At no point did John make her own up to HER actions. Something she clearly has not done yet.
@ She already knows she screwed up. What more do you want John to do??
@@flashthecorgi2053John a simp
She wanted to cheat. She made sure to make that happen, BEHIND her husbands back. She is avoiding all accountability as well. Insane
Good point. She basically coerced him into helping her cheat…
I think there's enough blame to go around,,and him posting pictures on a swinging site was a grievous move on his part so he kind of got the ball rolling
As if the second man did absolutely nothing to manipulate her or talk her into it. She screwed up, but her husband and her brought that man into their lives.
@@missumbrella3135
The second man never vowed anything to either of them.
@@matthewpauselius4767 I'm not saying he did. I'm just saying she could have been manipulated so have a little compassion.
She loves her husband but had an affair. This call is cringe
Don't forget the husband who first put her pictures on a website.
Yeah he always sides with the cheating women and slams the men. So they feel empowered to call.
John is a scammer and this shite is fake
Affairs are never about the partner or the primary relationship. It is done by people with core wounds who are deeply hurt people and they need huge amounts of pain killers (can be alcohol, social media, shopping, drugs, work, etc). It's escapism for someone undergoing very difficult situations.
@@joane24all the men commenting negative things about the woman clearly have their own hurt and anger.
On the first caller, id love to see the husband call In all by himself. Then after a time again, have them both together. I think everyone can learn a lot from that sequence.
If the husband could/would call in without the wife around, it would be interesting. Otherwise, she'll be sitting there to make sure the story comes out the way she wants it to be told. But it would be really neat to hear the 3 sides of the story.
Her husband tried to pimp her out behind her back how is he surprised she cheated…lack of morals on both parties. They deserve each other honestly.
Exactly what I thought.
She is lying you genius
@@elgrek0249 oh I’m sorry I didn’t realize you were there and knew this couple personally. It’s almost like you’re just commenting based on anecdotal experience as am I…genius 🙄
She said they already talked about it but I get your point.. let’s not coddle the woman
I guarantee that she'd expect him to remain faithful if this had been reversed.
Don't forget he's the one who came up with the whole idea first.
@joane24 And? That doesn't nullify my statement. If this had been reversed, he'd still be expected to remain faithful.
@@joane24doesnt matter who came up with it, decent ppl dont do that.
@chaboi7 I never said what she did was decent. My point was, she's not the only who did wrong here, and the husband isn't decent either.
No one is questioning that 😅 he’s obviously not okay with it either.
Woman who are in LOVE with their husbands dont SLEEP with others lmfao. You love the "comfort, etc" like he is a good roommate. That's ALL.
THEY WOULDN'T EVEN GO DINNERS WITH STRANGE MAN LET ALONE SLEEPING.
DIVORCE ASAP.
Tell me you’ve been hurt before without telling me you’ve been hurt before. Lol go get some help instead of getting angry at random people on the internet you don’t even know. Lol
ANYONE that loves their partner doesn't cheat lmfao pretty standard established values since the dawn of time.
@@rebekahjoy7921 sounds like you’re the caller.
I think none of them are in love. I mean he wanted a threesome and helped her pick the guy out. What kind of guy wants another guy with his wife?
Not true.
Not going to lie I HATE Johns advice to cheaters…
Very hypocritical. If it was the other way around he would sound so different and tell him he can't trust her anymore
Yes 🙌🏽
@@amiramaz lmao when the dude cheats its "he puts your life at risk with STDs". When the woman cheats its "your relationship is different now hut you can fix it!"
@@YouMissedBro ''Marriage is over start something fresh''
Yeah no there is no starting fresh with Cheating. Once a Cheater always a Cheater
@kiney4473 once it happens, they need to d v o r c e. The husband sounds gross too, posting those pics online but she's worse for physically going through with it. Both should remain single.
Play twister, read books, sit and stare at each other. Love it. This goes for all relationships at any point. I bet if we put down the phones and had a conversation things would be different. We are loosing the ability to communicate.
Let’s go
She’s acting like she’s just caught up in this confusing situation where she accidentally consensually slept with a stranger. Girl shut up you did it on purpose. She would’ve run it by her husband first if she didn’t want to step out on her marriage. Her husband isn’t perfect by any means but this wasn’t some confusing accident that happened to her. Grow up
Seriously what is wrong with people these days. Marriage equals covenant and sex is sacred in the marriage. Otherwise just do not get married!!! Arrrrg
Agree but I don't get the lack of considering this is dangerous as well in several ways. I worked in mental health and the yucky disease stuff. Don't understand taking risks....
I have always thought something felt wrong about Delony’s advice for married couples to be open about all of their fantasies and desires. And now I know why, because talking about it leads to situations like this. With our pornified culture, most fantasies are not healthy and nothing good will come from discussing them.
(Already listened on Spotify)
Some things are best left unspoken
This guy literally told her "sometimes cheating saves a marriage" this guy is horrible 😂
@@briano9397 I've seen it happen. I've seen couples come back stronger after infidelity. Not my cup of tea though
@@briano9397hes a poser, probably a swinger's and not a christian man.....the only reason i listen to this show is to learn about the car wrecks...
Ah yes. Let people stuff down their fantasies so that the husband ( usually he's the one who does this), will hire a sex worker to fulfill the fantasies because his wife is too uptight ( like you) to role play or have fun.🙄
I'm not saying that inviting another entity to the bedroom is a good idea, but shutting your spouse down and judging them for normal fantasizing is a bad idea.
There is no way this guy could ever trust her again. He may say he can, but it’s always going to be in the back of his mind.
Oh you mean the guy who first put her pictures on a website?...
@@joane24 u think posting the photos is the same as cheating? or equal?
@N1xteR I didn't say this is the same or equal. But posting pictures and organizing a threesome, it's already against the marriage vows. My point is, she's not the only one to blame for bad behavior.
@@N1xteR When it comes to breaking trust those are both pretty high on the list!!! He needs to take accountability as well. She sure is. But instead he's got a thousand questions about what happened with her and she's basically not addressing the betrayal of him posting without her knowledge sexually as bait for other men. What don't you understand
@N1xteR its just as violating as cheating. You're one of those men who looks at naked women and says "it's art" aren't you? It's lust and it is a violation of your commitment.
A doctor saying to a cheater “sometimes cheating saves a marriage” is like saying to an alcoholic “sometimes drinking is good for your health” what a strange thing to say.
She’s not telling the whole story.
she didn’t feel like he protect her but she goes and sleeps with the guy she wanted to be protected from? she wants her cake and to eat it too. how do you reason with people like her?
The "doctor" continues to inflate her cheating ego and say "sometimes cheating saves a marriage"
Having someone put photos on the internet of you without consent is hardly protection.
@@soothingsense9396 thats bad too, i dont think she solved the problem with the cheating, hence why she’s calling
You don't reason, you kick them out of your life.
Yeah this was super weird
I never clicked the notification button so fast in my life!
Everyone loves drama on some level😂😂😂
Lol yes ! @@FinessingFinance2024
I even got notified when it dropped lol
😂
I'm too judgemental to comment. Hope the husband leaves.
Haha I like your honesty. But he’s just as pathetic. No self respecting guy would ever consider this, especially if the third party is another male.
John literally says to her “sometimes an affair saves a marriage” after she’s had an affair. WTAF Delony??
Im pretty sure his marriage had an affair because ain't no way he's fine with it
@@Arewewearethewaitingunknown He’s not fine with it and no his marriage has never gone through an affair. He treats people that have cheated with dignity and respect because most of them realize they they’ve already screwed up and don’t need to be beaten upside the head with it. She’s asking for HELP and guidance.
@@flashthecorgi2053shut up cheater.we don't know what happened with his marriage he wouldn't admit it to millions of people
@@Arewewearethewaitingunknown Well you’re an idiot because I’ve actually heard straight from his own wife so…
Treats women that way, not men.
Where is this woman's agency? Is ANYTHING her fault? John dropped the ball with this call massively. If the genders were reversed this whole thing would have been entirely different.
He didn’t drop the ball at all. She already knows she screwed up. Even when John asked her the advice to other couples who want a threesome she immediately said NO. She knows she did wrong. John helped walked alongside her! He doesn’t have to shame, scream, and yell at her like this comment section wants to do. Him not doing those things is NOT dropping the ball.
@@flashthecorgi2053lol you must be the caller.... the amount of times you've left comments defending a cheater is crazyyy lol
@@RaleighLink Eww gross I’m not defending the call, I’m defending Delony because you people suck saying “he dropped the ball on this call” when he absolutely did not. He treated this woman with dignity and respect but also guided her towards the steps of rebuilding her marriage. Some people in this comments just want John to shame and yell at her.
@@flashthecorgi2053 "then my husband said I can't fix [your panic attacks]". He CAN'T. If a dude told Delony he was expecting his wife to fix his mental health challenges Delony would have fired back she can't. I doubt this husband has never tried to help her it just got to the point where he said I cannot give you the psychological support you need, but this woman has a victim complex so of course she says things in a way that paints her as the victim. Remember when she was talking about what the cheater was telling her; instead of John saying well that's a crock of sh*t it doesn't matter YOU are the one who said "I do" he let her go on blaming the cheater for her actions.
Everyone is saying she took 0 accountability because she took 0 accountability and John let her run with it the entire call. Never in a million years is John telling a guy "well sometimes cheating can save a marriage".
Ding ding ding. Lol
Just in how she speaks you can tell she’s obfuscating and takes no accountability and even says her cheating was out of character. But it’s not, it’s in her nature she’s surprised it came out.
Yeah and she said they talked about doing this for a long time. So clearly it’s not that out of character. A threesome IS cheating on your spouse.
I’m not buying it.
Here’s your options:
1. This story is fake
2. The story is real, but that means the “couple” is morally bankrupt and deserve each other and the weird hell they created.
Who puts pictures of their SO on ANY website, without discussing it??
Also, now she feels like “he’s not protecting me” because he was willing to go through with something YOU BOTH AGREED ON??
I don’t buy it- mainly because I might lose it (sanity) if it is.
If he put her picture up that's crazy
She needs to divorce him
I lost my sanity when the "doctor" said "sometimes cheating saves a marriage"
He created a threat by sharing her pic online first. Of course she felt unprotected when things got physical.
She's definitely not innocent here but he'd already created mistrust by doing that first. She tried to be ok and go a long with it.. now they're both.... screwed, lol.
@@briano9397 where exactly did he say that word for word!?
Yeah he always sides with the cheating women and slams the men. So they feel empowered to call.
Are we in the twilight zone?
Sadly, I personally know of situations like this I have encountered in my own life. It doesn’t end well for either party.
When the doctor is telling the cheater, "sometimes cheating saves a marriage" ... Yes we are in the twilight zone
@@briano9397 holy smokes, you'd think that for someone posting the same comment repeatedly so confidently, that they wouldn't be so incorrect. He said "... that's why some people report that cheating saved their marriage". The context was openly communicating and being honest with each other. It wasn't the cheating, it was opening that line of honesty communication which had been closed for years.
Amazing how the Jon that comes down hard on guys when they mistreat their wives didn’t show up at all in this call.
Never does.
That's because it's only wrong when a male does it
john's generally pretty gentle with everyone. hardest he's gone is on that dude who fucked his wife's step mom. here, he reminded her that she fucked up and that she's the one who needs to atone pretty often. he justified every response her husband has had as normal and in need of being met by her if she wants the marriage to last. maybe you're just sensitive when men are on the receiving end? do you want him to call her a whooore and tell her to self delete? what response would satisfy you here?
Well he brushed over husband putting up actual pictures of his wife on dirty sites for ever and for the world to see. That's an actual crime, as it should be.
I’ve seen this repetitively, the women are so sugar, spice and all things nice if you ask Dr. John
"He didn't protect me..." Uh, girl, you went running into traffic and are blaming him for not holding you back.
I can’t even listen to this whole episode. She needs to be put in her place. She makes excuses for her bad behavior.
Exactly
Skip her call and listen to the last call at least that one was beautiful
granted the guy shouldn't have posted her pictures, that's messed up af. But seriously lady?!?!? you're gonna talk about having a threesome with your husband and when you guys actually start going through with it suddenly he isn't protecting you? what a load of BS
I agree!
Here I am all alone and disabled and this fool throws away her marriage on a trifle.
Oh what a jewel are you, and oh what a fool am I for squandering my love on an emerald in the sky - Lord Huron
Sometimes you have to destroy it to realize that you’ve taken it for granted.
@@francestaylor9156 I hate this...but I feel like it's true. Live and learn, I guess.
“He didn’t protect me “
“So I slept with him anyways” the fact the women always has to make the guy bad then proceed to say “they made me cheat” is funny and the fact Jon just believes everything a women says
Show starts at 1:22
2:09 So she slept with the guy without her husband and has the audacity to try and convince him to sleep with her cheating partner.
"I'm not trying to justify what I did" -- proceeds to try to justify it
Dr deloney is so simpathetic to the caller to the point of being very hypocritical. If it was the man he would trash talk the wife and explain how liars always lie. I'm kinda over him
He best serves the person on the phone. It’s his job.its like an attorney, you can play both sides.
@@gmarie3053 I see what your are saying but it puts him in a weird space of does he actually believes what he is saying or it all a show and a service? Idk I'm kinda torn
I think the difference is both of the people were in on starting this fire. Also - she’s not slamming her husband. She straight up said: the minute this was done, it was the dumbest thing I’d ever done. And John tells her: well, he has reason not to trust you. This is what happens… but here’s how you start over. I don’t think he’s letting her off the hook. He’s walking her through how to restart their marriage.
There’s previous call of a female cheater and John very much condemned her.
He does this often. Its sickening.
Don't bring a third person into your marriage! The people who defend and say it can work are in DEEP denial. It is always a bad idea.
Guarantee she's lying about most of this. She asked to do this and this isn't the first time she's cheated.
People don't do that to somebody they love.. They'd never consider such a thing.
It’s a freaky new world!!
Exactly
Exactly, hence her feeling unsafe, she is unsafe. She's with a man who chose to prostitute his own wife for some sick fantasy and then freaked when it happened.
The 2nd story with the dude who lost his best friend, I felt that in my soul. Lost my best friend/sister right as we were both becoming mothers for the first time together…we’d been attached at the hip even after we both got married. Losing her destroyed the foundation of my life. Rebuilding was, and continues to be, the toughest trial I’ve had to endure, but I get my power and will to be the best me in her honor.
Let me guess 2 men and 1 woman?🙄 That is exactly why he backed out. If you already had 2 woman and 1 man then the husband punked you. She is saying she got manipulated into it...😑
Most likely. My husband once asked for a threesome 2 female/male. I laughed and said, Ok, you go first though 2 man/woman. He dropped that topic faster than a hot potato.
Many things in a relationship can be repaired, but when it's cheating, it's better to move on. The trust and loyalty are gone. That is like the base stats in a game; without that, there is nothing.
I'm sorry this woman cheated on her husband and now wants to play victim like she was taken advantage of by the stranger and that "she's not that type of person"? Classic. The woman always thinks she's the victim, even when she literally CHEATED.
Of course she isn’t a victim but let’s also acknowledge that the husband is wacko for wanting in on this fantasy and putting her pictures online. These are degenerate people.
The first call made my skin crawl dude. WTF
This day’s culture, sir. Welcome! 😅
The first caller is more empathetic toward herself than her husband… laughing, and portraying that he is over reacting all while proclaiming “it’s not in my character”. And now the poor girl is dealing with anxiety
Sounds like a narcissist who should stick to loving herself and herself only. Poor guy
I immediately thought narcissist when she said help my husband with his emotions.
@@nikoleyates2211 nailed it!
She has 0 remorse. It is so shocking to hear this whole story. It as if things just happened to her and oh poor her, she couldn’t say “no” or actually have a proper judgment .
Exactly
Yeah he just put words in her mouth, when in reality she had no remorse.
I find it weird that she cheated, then said it was his fault for not protecting her.
That's what chics do
They should get a divorce. He will NEVER be able to get over this. It will haunt him constantly. He will keep asking her questions to make it make sense but no matter what she says it will never make him feel better. It doesn't matter that they had communication issues or she had mental health issues. Everybody has those things but it doesn't justify what she did. He will never be able to accept it and move on. Their relationship was already over when this happened. There's no going back now.
These incredibly immature people should not be in a marriage. Good grief. This is disgusting, childish, sex-obsessed behavior. There are no adults here.
Sorry, my honesty doesn’t stop by women: she had the audacity to even come on phone to talk about that the way she did, and after everything what she did, wondered why got everything wrong? Girl you have no right to be angry at anyone. Especially not your husband. What I hear is ego playing out.
I'm here early lol. This show is there perfect balance between mess & wisdom. Gotta love it.
Exactly. I enjoy the drama but I'm also able to pull helpful things for my life from the content sometimes
WOW - last call had me in tears! Dr. John NAILED it - so powerful!!!!
Young men, never continue a relationship with a cheater. Let her go, it will save you so much money, energy, attention, time and trauma. Don't ask any questions and you don't need any closer. Walk. This is one of the greatest test men go through.
Is it really that hard for men to think with their (upper) heads?
Exactly. Even the Bible tells you That you can divorce a cheater.
@lightbowden But it’s fine for men to cheat and women to stay.
@@UltraGalacticSuperFantastic Oh please, it's not easy to leave someone you have a close relationship with. For anyone. Men, woman, doesn't matter. It's hard to let go of how you thought your life was going to go.
Young Anybody
Can't believe what Dr John is condoning. The first woman is the kind of person who never takes responsibility for her actions. It's always someone's fault.
He’s not condoning . He is speaking facts not opinions. My opinion would be that peeps leave their cheating spouses.
Reality: A lot of marriages are able to come back from that mistake if some hard work takes place.
He's a simp too
Caller #1 took absolutely no accountability for her actions. If her husband is smart, he'll leave.
Also....is the husband gay or bi? Because I cant see any other way a man would be open to sleeping with another man....honest question.
💯💯 My thoughts exactly
I was thinking the same exact thing
There are plenty of straight men willing to have sexx with one woman at the same time. It’s the world we live in and probably the way the world has been for oh so long. Sounds empty to me.
You play with fire…u get burnt
She’s gonna go to her husband and say “you’re welcome, I just saved our message”
John gave horrendous advice on this one, and didn’t acknowledge the egregious actions that she decided to take, and how she shattered his trust. Gross gross gross.
Didn't. Even. Acknowledge. Her. Actions. This woman took 0 accountability and John played right into it.
John is a total CHAD when it comes to female callers. He kisses their ass and gives them the absolute worst advice, every single time
To be fair, it's not like the husband was innocent in this one. It was all a disaster. I think it would've been different if the husband had nothing to do with it.
Regarding the 2nd woman, I had a girlfriend who broke up with me 4 times. 3 times I took her back, the 4th time I sent her packing. About 3 weeks later I got a call from her late at night, I asked her why she was calling and she said it was because she loved me. My instinctive response was "You don't even like me." She fell completely silent and I never heard from her again.
I blame the husband for getting for getting cuckholded. The woman has issues, but the man kinda violated his wife too.
I feel like I am in the 17th or 18th century, and the world has moved way ahead of me.
Thanos was Right.
amen !
This women is bad news. She justifies everyhting and take zero accuantbiblity. She is more annoyed more about husband askign questions and having issues.
And she is also a victim is what I get out of this. This sis what she thinks.
The comments are forgetting that people are messy and sinful. By “people” I mean me and you, too. Put down the stones!
I have to admit, I am disgusted by the woman’s tone of voice whilst talking about cheating behind her partners back. I don’t believe the events that took place pre-adultery.
Something tells me she's going to cheat again. She broke his heart, and still has so much resentment towards him. He's not perfect, sure, but she doesn't take accountabilty for anything.
Tbf neither has he. This is what happens to people who give in and indulge in this sort of perversion. I mean the dude was prostituting his own wife for some sick fantasy. Idk obviously but she sounds so utterly desperate for his attention that she's tried to conform herself into his fantasy and its eating her alive. Either way it doesn't sound like this is going to work out well for either of themselves. Unless of course they make a 180 and leave the world of sexual perversion behind entirely. This story doesn't end well as it is.
Yea she's saying the threesome ruined her marriage... I think her cheating ruined her marriage.
Homegirl will for sure 😭
Of course, she is taking accountability. Too much chatting on here and not enough critical thinking. ❤
@@susancassels5887 My critical thinking is just fine. If that's your take on "accountablity", I seriously pitty your partner. ❤
This thing where people burn their house, marriage, and family down for some extramarital sexual fantasy is INSANE. how can you validate these people???
Second caller - The worst thing is that you're showing your three kids that this is what marriage and love are supposed to look like.
When the husband posts a private photos of sexual nature that includes the wife (without her knowledge) that is a huge violation of trust, and that is not love. True love protects and cares for the the other person, and man especially are created/born/equipped to play this role in life.
The truth is that a lot of man today have lost the connection or not learned from their fathers how to be a man in a relationship/in life, how to care and protects the woman and be there for her. Really good advice Dr.John 😊
God bless you the John, the third caller made me cry 😢
So this chick is a cheater. Gotcha lol.
Pretty much 🤣
It's okay, the doctor says "sometimes cheating saves a marriage"
Yeah he always sides with the cheating women and slams the men. So they feel empowered to call.
@@briano9397 that was crazy
My ex husband wanted an open marriage. I figured our marriage was over and he just wanted someone to have sex with until he could find someone else. I was furious and lost all respect for him. He tried for over 10 years to get back together but i couldn't even look at him. Gross
How can I help him through his emotions? She's delusional 🤣🤣🤣
Right what an idiot
So instead of helping his wife out with her mental health crisis after moving away from their support system, he pimped her out on the internet without her knowledge or permission. Somehow that turned into her believing she was okay with it just to find she wasn’t. She then went to dude and stated this and he talked her through it and she did it. Now he’s mad bc she did it and she’s upset bc she betrayed him. She doesn’t trust him bc he left the emotional support out of the in sickness part of marriage. Sounds like there’s some respect lost. If he can set up a 3some online then he should be there when it counts. I feel like that was brushed over. Was she wrong? Yes but also does she want to keep working on a marriage where her partner abandons her needs when she needs him most? Obviously there was some safety in the other guy. She shouldn’t have sought it there but it was there to some degree. I feel like they can date again if they want but if they don’t handle the “issue” then they’ll never get back to 100%. I know he’s not on the phone but she’s clearly stated she felt blindsided and dismissed. That’ll sit on her heart until it’s worked through.
To Sarah, the second caller. I have another idea. Tell him he will need to take a break you decide how long a week? month, day’s ?( if you think he will leave ) or that you will me leaving with the kids for a break the next time he behaves abusive. Pack up some things you will need so it’s easy to leave or make arrangements with someone for him to stay with them. I heard this idea from Leslie Vernick which is also a good place to find support. As well find a licensed therapist for yourself who will see you both separately and is qualified for couples therapy. Church leaders are not therapists. My heart goes out to you.
John, I really respect you. I need to say that I notice a pattern; you don't tell female callers the truth about themselves. You are too easy on clearly narcissistic, malicious females. You speak to them like they're teenage girls. Where is the recognition that these women need serious mental help and accountability. This call was like trying to fight the LA fires with a spray bottle. I understand you love women, but sometimes tough love is the solution.
So she knows . The husband never ever wanted this. He was trying to please you.
This is how most situations like this go someone always pressuring the other at some point
Except... He took the initiative to create a profile and post pics of HER without her express agreement.
Yep exactly. That’s the way it works
@lynnebucher6537 seem like based on their discussions he felt comfortable doing that to please her.
@lynnebucher6537 yep they are both toxic crossing boundaries
Yeah, i’m sorry Dr Deloney - I’m going to take a break from you for a bit.
I can tell you are partial and overly compassionate to women, yet when men call in, that level of “over-compassion” and empathy is slightly more lacking. I’m not saying you’re not compassionate or empathetic to men, but you are also being pretty lenient on the first caller who obviously cheated on her husband pre-emptively (honestly the entire situation is a clusterf### b/c he’s not innocent either). The leniency is starting to be a trigger for me on this response.
First caller - lady needs to wake up. Both she and husband need to seriously consider the weight and consequences of their actions and feel deep heart-wrenching soul-gutting absolute heinous disgust and remorse on themselves and tremendous guilt they have caused each other. Are they even human? I pray to the Lord they do NOT have children.
Yes he was super nice to her. Invited her to his event and willing to pay for her airfare. Why?
I can't believe he even took this first call. It's almost so crazy that it diminishes John's credibility for using it as click bait.
She made her cheating his fault by saying "oh well he didn't fight for me when the conversation of another man sleeping with me came up." No, no no. She just cheated period and that wasn't highlighted nearly enough. Her husband wont get over it in 2 weeks like she wants him to. She betrayed their marriage. I don't think she'll ever feel like she needs to take any accountability, especially not after this call.
I would never agree to such...even if my husband begged...3some is crazy...and it's actually a concern if your husband asks for one...
Some fantasies need to remain fantasies … the first caller is exactly what happens when you are not self aware and you think that this just be fun because why not…. Then it is too late
The husband posting her pictures online is giving Gisele Pelicot vibes.
Ladies, please stop entertaining this type of degeneracy. You will always be the one with more to lose, and you WILL lose.
I hate when people say they don't know how it happened. You arranged a meetup, got in your car and drove over. Slept with them, and then say you don't know how it happened. Give me a break
Well she said for FOUR Years she and her husband have been fantasizing about this.
The only thing that is unfair about this channel is the fact that he is only getting one side of the story and giving possible life changing advice based on that 1 side of the story. A lot of ppl tend to lie or withhold some of the story.