The MYSTERIOUS ORIGINS of the SEA PEOPLES

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    Many people have heard of the Sea Peoples in the context of the Bronze Age Collapse. In some ancient texts they are the ones who get the blame for all the evils that occurred at the time. But who were the Sea Peoples, where did they come from, and where did they go?
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  • @TankUni
    @TankUni 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +527

    Has anyone considered it might have been early British tourists behaving (very) badly on holiday in the Med?

    • @aurora123borealis
      @aurora123borealis 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

      Probably Liverpool supporters.

    • @ILikedGooglePlus
      @ILikedGooglePlus 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

      Lads on tour

    • @user-cofee
      @user-cofee 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      Makes sense beer was invented in Egypt after all. They learned about that beverage and run to the source.

    • @TankUni
      @TankUni 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      @@ILikedGooglePlus No Chunnel or budget flights available, so they came over on the boat. Locals thought it was an invasion.

    • @GothPaoki
      @GothPaoki 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      Given my experience with British tourists I'd say it's very plausible.

  • @GothPaoki
    @GothPaoki 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    I love history times doc catchphrase about the ramses account of the raids." In the inscriptions the Egyptians seem to be winning more and more great victories but they seem to be winning closer and closer to their capital"...

    • @Creticus
      @Creticus 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Ramesses III is sometimes said to be the last great pharaoh, but it's clear that his reign had serious problems.
      You don't wind up with the first recorded strikes out of nowhere. And those were carried out by tomb-builders, which were critical for ancient Egyptian rulers.

    • @NefariousKoel
      @NefariousKoel 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Plus.. giving a whole group of enemies land you nominally control isn't something you do with an enemy you've completely defeated. The settling of the Peleset in the Levant indicates there was still a threat of some kind. This was likely an Egyptian solution to both bring them on-side and use them to help control a troublesome Egyptian frontier (the Levant). Probably to help defend it against other Sea People raids and rebellious native tribes there. Very much like how the Normans were given the deal of settling in Normandy in order to protect that coast from other Northmen much later in history.

    • @steventhompson399
      @steventhompson399 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah I looked at that channel before, cool stuff. This reminded me of the Japanese in wwii claiming to shoot down so many American planes and sink so many American ships, closer and closer to Japan

    • @mheiseus
      @mheiseus 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The Egyptians were lucky they had the Nile to defend them, but he hitites didn't have that kind of advantage and it cost them.

    • @askallois
      @askallois หลายเดือนก่อน

      @NefariousKoel True, but at the time the people were illiterate and news spread slowly and distorted, and propaganda was the weapon to rule an ignorant people. Surely they came to an agreement, gave the government of Lebanon to the Shardana and Palestine to the Pheleset. The great and late Israeli archaeologist Zertal discovered a fortified Shardana citadel in northern Israel, with construction criteria he had never seen before in the entire Middle East, but which can be traced back to the Nuragic civilisation, In addition, bronze weapons and local Sardinian pottery were found. Which is another proof that Shardana = Sardinia.

  • @bwhotwing411
    @bwhotwing411 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +58

    I’ve always been fascinated with the Seapeoples. I have the 1177 Bronze Age collapse book and have been interested ever since I read it.

    • @RalphEllis
      @RalphEllis 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      There is no mystery.
      The Hyksos were exiled from Egypt in about 1580 BC, and many of those exiled people sailed away to Mediterranean islands. There is evidence for this. Some 300 years later, they sailed back east to retake their ‘homelands’.
      Ask yourself - why would a 1000 ship confederation of islanders, think they could defeat the Egyptian superpower? What motivated them? Answer - revenge. Some of these Sea Peoples were the Peleset, who became known as the Philistines.
      Note that the night assault of the Sea Peoples, with flames before them, is the same as the night attack during the era of Judges. The only difference is that Judges tells us how this was achieved. The fire was in pots, to conceal it, and then the pots were broken at the last minutes, before the attack. Very much the same story.
      See Tempest & Exodus.
      R

    • @bwhotwing411
      @bwhotwing411 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@RalphEllis That’s an interesting hypothesis

    • @bwhotwing411
      @bwhotwing411 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I have heard that the Hyksos remained enslaved in Lower Egypt and they were a Semitic group and they might be considered the origins of Moses and the Exodus

  • @edgarsnake2857
    @edgarsnake2857 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +85

    That was easily the best wrap-up of the available info on the Sea Peoples that I have seen. Thanks, Doc.

    • @TheMuseumGuyIsrael
      @TheMuseumGuyIsrael 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Couldn't agree more!

    • @lavinleitrim44
      @lavinleitrim44 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes I agree. But I also wonder why there aren't any/many? hypothesis suggesting they could have come from the Atlantic direction, there is evidence of trade routes existing through the sea to Britain, so why not consider pre-vikings or brits, or anybody from the Iberian peninsula... I say this because our Celtic and other northern myth/legend speaks of visiting far off places with unusual names and sea invasions from unknown people. I don't believe the ancient world was as small and disconnected as we modern people tend to think.

    • @lavinleitrim44
      @lavinleitrim44 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I'll add in college when I was learning about stone age Ireland one of my essays included a paragraph about trading stone implements, axes, hammers and such. There is stone in our Irish museums from the alps circa 4000BC. It was years ago so I don't remember the exact details but I do know it's a thing. I also read in one of our manuscripts from the early Medieval that there was a Temple of Apollo in County Donegal, the northwest coast of Ireland. My immediate thought is how and why, seeing as Rome never invaded Ireland, it's a curious thing.

    • @RalphEllis
      @RalphEllis 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There is no mystery.
      The Hyksos were exiled from Egypt in about 1580 BC, and many of those exiled people sailed away to Mediterranean islands. There is evidence for this. Some 300 years later, they sailed back east to retake their ‘homelands’.
      Ask yourself - why would a 1000 ship confederation of islanders, think they could defeat the Egyptian superpower? What motivated them? Answer - revenge. Some of these Sea Peoples were the Peleset, who became known as the Philistines.
      Note that the night assault of the Sea Peoples, with flames before them, is the same as the night attack during the era of Judges. The only difference is that Judges tells us how this was achieved. The fire was in pots, to conceal it, and then the pots were broken at the last minutes, before the attack. Very much the same story.
      See Tempest & Exodus.
      R

  • @MatthewBowman
    @MatthewBowman 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    I was just explaining the Sea Peoples to my wife the other day! Mind you, I took a lot longer, because it was a tangent about how the start of the Iron Age changed diplomacy in the Middle East, which itself was a tangent off of a question she'd asked about historical uses of steel with horses. And I still tangented off into linguistics and explaining Ugarit.
    I tangent a lot, but it's all so fascinating! Fortunately for my health, my wife knew this going into our marriage. 😅

    • @liquidoxygen819
      @liquidoxygen819 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      You will also probably enjoy the channels "Dan Davis History", "Fortress of Lugh", and "Survive the Jive" as well. Great stuff about the Bronze Age & origins of peoples. Those are three of my favorites

    • @josephmasten7588
      @josephmasten7588 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Lucky you've found one interested in history

    • @MatthewBowman
      @MatthewBowman 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@josephmasten7588, she puts up with me. :)

  • @ChrisVillagomez
    @ChrisVillagomez 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    I just talked about this on Thursday with my Ancient World professor but I've always loved that we know who some of the Sea Peoples were like the Philistines, the Lukka, and the Sherden of Sardinia

  • @masterdecats6418
    @masterdecats6418 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Thanks for covering the “sea people” mystery. I find this time period super fascinating.

    • @user-zp7jp1vk2i
      @user-zp7jp1vk2i 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      wait just a few more years. methinks this is how the homeless crisis is going to take us in N. America. and the UK.

  • @CrimsonSp33d
    @CrimsonSp33d 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Was just talking to my buddy about the sea peoples, we had one of our crazy long drunken conversations that wound up talking about atlantis, which lead me to minoans and talking about the sea peoples. So glad you put this out, ive shared it with my buddy and i know hell love your channel.

  • @Thefoxtails1
    @Thefoxtails1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    The bronze age is my favourite era in history, thanks for always doing it justice, love listening to your works 😁

  • @JMM33RanMA
    @JMM33RanMA 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

    What an interesting video. I've heard several explanations of the Sea People, but this is the most detailed and solid theory as far as the evidence currently available goes. Thanks for your great work Prof. Miano!

    • @MarcillaSmith
      @MarcillaSmith 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Agreed! Too many videos I've seen on the topic talk about them as if they were practically a race of mermen! This video sounds much more sensible, and they don't seem that different than when we see sea-faring cultures emerge at other points in history, such as with the time of Vikings and the age of pirates.

    • @gregorynixon2945
      @gregorynixon2945 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's very basic & bland. There are better for colour & feeling or for important details.

    • @InchFab
      @InchFab 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@gregorynixon2945 you're basic and bland.

    • @RalphEllis
      @RalphEllis 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There is no mystery.
      The Hyksos were exiled from Egypt in about 1580 BC, and many of those exiled people sailed away to Mediterranean islands. There is evidence for this. Some 300 years later, they sailed back east to retake their ‘homelands’.
      Ask yourself - why would a 1000 ship confederation of islanders, think they could defeat the Egyptian superpower? What motivated them? Answer - revenge. Some of these Sea Peoples were the Peleset, who became known as the Philistines.
      Note that the night assault of the Sea Peoples, with flames before them, is the same as the night attack during the era of Judges. The only difference is that Judges tells us how this was achieved. The fire was in pots, to conceal it, and then the pots were broken at the last minutes, before the attack. Very much the same story.
      See Tempest & Exodus.
      R

    • @gregorynixon2945
      @gregorynixon2945 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@RalphEllis Well, at least one person is certain he has the mystery solved. Not many will agree, I fear. Two point: a) others, real experts, have looked into related hypotheses, and b) here's the new mystery, who were the Hyksos? Does it not matter that so many kingdoms in Hellas were destroyed at this time, not to mention Troy, Ugarit, Hattusa, Byblos, and many other walled cities. Was that done by the Hyksos too?

  • @lastofmygeneration
    @lastofmygeneration 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    If I could travel back in time, this is one of the first things I'd check out. The Late Bronze Age collapse is so fascinating.

    • @Taharqo.saved.the.Hebrew
      @Taharqo.saved.the.Hebrew 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Would be horrific to be there in person

    • @toma110363
      @toma110363 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Just an interesting note about the Bronze Age collapse: I have heard a lot of speculation that there was famine and other aspects of a climate change, and, as it turns out, if you check temperature graphs over the last 10k years, there was a huge spike at about 1200 BC. Even substantially warmer than it is now.

    • @gregorynixon2945
      @gregorynixon2945 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@toma110363 Well-known.

  • @GameHammerCG
    @GameHammerCG 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

    “Where did they come from, and where did they go?” Damn dude, I never realised Cotton Eye Joe had such a strong historical pedigree!

    • @sifridbassoon
      @sifridbassoon 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 and there are references to events that happened ".. a long time ago.."

    • @paulannable3734
      @paulannable3734 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nobody knows who they were. Or - what they were doing.

    • @studio107bgallery4
      @studio107bgallery4 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They also loved a war…..nuked each other

  • @SobekLOTFC
    @SobekLOTFC 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Keep up the great work, Dr Miano 👏

  • @papasitoman
    @papasitoman 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Was just talking about the Sea People the other day. Perfect timing! Great channel!

  • @Potkanka
    @Potkanka 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Thanks for this video! I feel like any time I heard Sea Peoples mentioned, they were presented as this mysterious group of pillagers, so I'm glad to hear some more specific information :)

  • @paulchrystie5460
    @paulchrystie5460 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    That Anciant aliens (alien historian) hair just adds to the integrity. Love yr work Miamo

    • @Azmania3000
      @Azmania3000 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Pff not even close. The aliens guy does his hair with a leaf blower

  • @carlosaugustodinizgarcia3526
    @carlosaugustodinizgarcia3526 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    There may well be a recollection of the Tjekker in greek myths.
    The name is very similar to Teucer, one of the greek heroes in the war.He had a peculiar story:
    -despite being greek he was also descendant of the trojans (King Priam was his uncle).
    -after the war he joined an expedition with the king of Tyre to conquer the island of Cyprus, starting greek colonization there.
    There was a campaign around the bronze age collapse there,but with Suppiliuluma II of Hatti as the leader.
    Funny that greek mythology also preserved memories of achaeans raiding Egypt: there are two in the Odyssey- one by Menelaus and other by Odysseus.

    • @hydrolito
      @hydrolito 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Tajikistan exist if descended from Tjekker don't know.

    • @dodongdan1848
      @dodongdan1848 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Dude the people that attack Troy/Priam are probably those what we call seapeople and it is recorded the ILiad..

    • @askallois
      @askallois หลายเดือนก่อน

      @dodongdan1848 Right, the Achaeans were one of the people of the sea, at that time all the major cities were destroyed except Athens. Don't destroy your own city.

  • @snailrancher
    @snailrancher 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    One area that you did not address (understandably since the Egyptian textual and iconographic evidence is so rich and evocative) is the growing archaeological evidence, particularly outside of the Nile valley. For example, on Bate's Island (located in the lagoon near Marsa Matruh) there is evidence of seasonal settlement of Aegean and Cypriot peoples who engaged in trade with the local Bronze Age Libyans, showing the contacts between Libyans and "Sea Peoples" but outside of Egyptian control. Similarly, the site of Tell Tweini (ancient Gibala), to the south of Ugarit, was destroyed at the end of the LBA and (re)settled in the early Iron Age by people making Late Helladic IIIC Early 1 style ceramics locally (i.e., Aegeans settled here). Another very important development is the identification of Palistin (formerly misread as Walistin), a Neo-Hittite kingdom of the early Iron Age located on the modern Turkish/Syrian border, which saw a huge influx of locally produced "Aegean" ceramics, again almost certainly due to Mycenean settlement at the end of the LBA (see the work of Jeffery Emanuel). Finally, another major development is the reconsideration of the idea that Ramesses III purposefully settled Peleset people in what became Philistia (and thus under Egyptian control), or rather that they settled there of their own accord, but the Egyptians attempted to essentially block them from encroaching further into Egyptian imperial territory; for this see the book "The Philistines and Aegean migration at the end of the Late Bronze Age" by Assaf Yasur-Landau, as well as other works by other scholars.

  • @gar6446
    @gar6446 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    I have a strong suspicion about the black sea area, especially with the Hittite collapse and the north east and east Mediterranean.
    The western med turmoil probably had the same root cause.
    Bronze requires trade routes and aristo top down organisation to combine the copper and tin and either upfront or pay on delivery for these materials.
    Iron is far more egalitarian and superior, all you need is the knowledge, and ability, iron ore is abundant.
    Its fun to speculate on this subject, we all have our pet theories.

    • @gregorynixon2945
      @gregorynixon2945 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The Bronze Age Collapse meant the end of the tin trade, so after that bronze could only be remade from other bronze objects.

    • @varyolla435
      @varyolla435 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@gregorynixon2945 Yes. As alluded to in another post the then world likely transitioned from bronze to iron owing to the collapse of the trading network which made bronze widely available. When bronze was ubiquitous then people obviously used it.
      Once it started to become more scarce as supply lines dried up upon the collapse of the various cultures in the eastern Mediterranean then people had to transition to iron - which was still available but not as commonplace likely being more expensive to obtain. So the advent of the Iron Age probably did not cause the collapse of the Bronze Age as much as it likely followed it owing to a lack of easily obtainable bronze.

    • @gregorynixon2945
      @gregorynixon2945 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@varyolla435 There was some overlap, but in truth iron was always plentiful but difficult to extract and impossible for a long time to melt, to make a hot enough forge to do so. The Hittites used iron that came from meteoroids, softer & readily available but not plentiful. It took a while for iron melting and forging to begin but once it did, such "magic" metallurgy spread rapidly so even poorer nations could afford it. Bronze was still used when it was available.

  • @MrRedCologne
    @MrRedCologne 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    This is really some good TH-cam content! I enjoyed it so much thank you

  • @avrywilson577
    @avrywilson577 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Love this channel! You never know what's coming next, and each time it's another amazing expose! Thanks, David!!

  • @austinballard3818
    @austinballard3818 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I dont agree with you on everything.. but youre one of the only historians that ive seen isnt afraid to have debates with your detractors.. and your material is so entertaining.. thank you for your willingness to debate.. and for your addicting material. God bless

  • @massivechafe
    @massivechafe 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Great video. cuts straight to the point without the dramatic fluff. Thanks mate

    • @gregorynixon2945
      @gregorynixon2945 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I miss combed hair and drama colour.

  • @will420high4
    @will420high4 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Such an interesting topic, makes us picture those people so long ago and their epic battles/history/despair/conquests, history is always interesting! Great video!

  • @Soapy-chan
    @Soapy-chan 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I really enjoy the storyteller way of conveying these hypothesis and pieces of evidence

  • @jawjackerent.3148
    @jawjackerent.3148 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Love the topic of the sea people I find it fascinating, also love your content Dr. Miano I would love to see you make a longer video on the subject

  • @GothPaoki
    @GothPaoki 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    It'd be very interesting to see how this whole affair ties with the Trojan war given that a lot of people involved in this war were also part of the sea people like the Achaeans and Luka.

    • @DneilB007
      @DneilB007 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I suspect that the Trojan War is a poorly remembered account of a Cretan-led war against Troy. Remember that the fathers of the great kings of the Greeks in the war were not hereditary rulers of their cities, but were tyrants established by Crete, according to the later legends (Atreus was a steward of Mycenae who killed King Eurystheus & then married the daughter of a King of Crete; Palamedes was the son of Nauplius and Clymene, a daughter of the king of Crete; there are other examples, but I can’t remember them offhand).
      I do remember that the king of Crete sent 50 ships to be part of the fleet to attack Troy, but 49 were made of clay & only one ship was real.

    • @Dgoc813
      @Dgoc813 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@DneilB007 I think it all fits rather well together, especially since the Iliad explicitly states that it was a fleet of allied ships from a variety of different homelands and ethnicities. The lost books of the Iliad also support correlation, since they describe a 10-year long journey across the coast where the Greeks encounter and destroy cities, on a route almost identical to those of the sea peoples

    • @gregorynixon2945
      @gregorynixon2945 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Leaving out Homer (and historians should), Troy (Ilios) was almost certainly brought down by those who would qualify as Peoples of the Sea, which included Danaans and Achaians.

    • @Dgoc813
      @Dgoc813 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@gregorynixon2945don’t see why historians should discount the main written primary source we have for the period.
      Ok lol I’ll just be straightforward abt it. I’m a historian. We went over how to navigate oral narratives in historiography 101.

    • @gregorynixon2945
      @gregorynixon2945 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Dgoc813 Sadly, you're not much of a historian if you think Homer is history. For a bard or rhapsodist, events and characters are drawn from all periods of the cultural past and from all places, especially those related to the audience to whom you are singing. History is not oral recitations from 500 years later.

  • @antoniotorcoli702
    @antoniotorcoli702 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Amazing video. The best explanation about the Sea People I ever read or listen to.

  • @BillGreenAZ
    @BillGreenAZ 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Dr. Miano, this is one of my favorite topics that you touched on a couple years back, especially when it deals with the Philistines.
    I also like the fact that you bring forth the possibility that these people may have resorted to barbarism because of shrinking resources. I have found many groups in the past that seem so barbarous that have partaken in such behavior as a survival mechanism. I think of the Native Americans, especially those of the Southwest US>

  • @jokebosveld2468
    @jokebosveld2468 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I would have loved to have you as my history teacher. It always had my interest. But you make it so exciting.

  • @codyeisenbach
    @codyeisenbach 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So good to get the latest in Archeological research on the subject from a trustworthy academic source. Keep it coming!

  • @Salamander1269
    @Salamander1269 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    History was always a passion for me. The sea peoples are shrouded in mystery of different reasons. First, their origin is obscure as they were different groups of people from around the Mediterranean. They were united but never formed a civilisation. Secondly, there was a severe drought at the time which lasted 300 years and which brought about the end of the Bronze Age. The sea peoples had to leave their settlements and find new territories in order to have food, so they migrated together with their families to more fertile territories. They were skilled shipmen and are the first known climate refugees. They scattered around the Mediterranean regions and later mixed with the native populations. A greater group settled down in Canaan. Speculations say that even the mysterious Etruscans' ancestry goes back to the sea peoples.

  • @christosvoskresye
    @christosvoskresye 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Ask any mermaid you happen to see,
    "What's the best people?" "People of the Sea!"

  • @griffindault
    @griffindault 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    What I find most suprising is that Graham Hancock hasnt cooked up any BS reason why it was Atlanteans all along.

    • @GothPaoki
      @GothPaoki 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I thought the same. You'd think that's excellent material for him to invest some crap like they were refugees fleeing from aliens.

    • @griffindault
      @griffindault 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@GothPaoki wait no they weren't fleeing Aliens they were fleeing his younger dryas apocalypse via time travel and that's why there is no physical evidence of their existence in the archeological record. Their spiritual enlightenment allowed them to complete remove themselves from the timeline and jump back in a couple thousand years later.

    • @leifinselmann1841
      @leifinselmann1841 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Actually there already were many theoretics - mainly german authors more or less related to the Nazis - like Herman Wirth and Jürgen Spanuth who identified the sea peoples with Atlantis, which they located at the island of Helgoland in northern Germany ...

    • @reddixiecrat
      @reddixiecrat 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It was Atlantean. Graham Hancock just believes that Atlantis existed around 11000 years ago, so it would be outside of his timeline

    • @richardshalla
      @richardshalla 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not only do I not believe Graham 👌🐓. I don't believe he is real. I think he might be one of the lizard people.

  • @juststardust8103
    @juststardust8103 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent video. Full of information.

  • @bipolarminddroppings
    @bipolarminddroppings 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Eric Cline's book on the bronze age collapse covers the Sea People extensively, fascinating time in history

  • @Alienami
    @Alienami 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video. Well researched.

  • @StevenRud
    @StevenRud 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    By far one of the best and profound history channels! So glad that I subscribed a long time ago.
    Best greetings from Switzerland…👍🏻👍🏻😎😎

  • @jamesolivier5224
    @jamesolivier5224 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Love your work. Thanks for your videos.

  • @Moshie71
    @Moshie71 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Narrator: "The sea people was a term coined by, the 19th century Egyptologist, Emmanuel de Rougé"
    There’s your red flag right there…

  • @Hoxle-87
    @Hoxle-87 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you Dr Miano

  • @barbaraoztas3686
    @barbaraoztas3686 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for having tackled this fascinating subject.

  • @zam6877
    @zam6877 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This gives more details
    It is hard to attempt to flesh anything out when the past is a vast sea of darkness...
    ...with a broadly scattering of lights hintingof deeper complexities

  • @paulbrennan1268
    @paulbrennan1268 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love looking at the ancient writing on the papyrus. simply amazing

  • @AnyoneCanSee
    @AnyoneCanSee 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A fantastic video as always.
    A bronze age collapse joke:
    Q: I hear the sea people came to your city. Were some of them Philistines?
    A: They were ALL Philistines, darling, you should have seen what they did to my art collection.

  • @thealmightyaku-4153
    @thealmightyaku-4153 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I am fairly convinced that not only were the so-called Sea Peoples predominantly Aegean (b'coz 1. they are talked about forming a "conspiracy in their islands", but 2. DNA evidence of Philistine graves), but I have a theory that the "Peleset" are related to the near-legendary pre-Hellenic "Pelasgians"

    • @dodongdan1848
      @dodongdan1848 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They probably the people of the Iliad and the Oddysey. Troy was destroyed about same time these events happened. In the Odyssey, they wandered around lost for a couple of years. What if while "lost and wandering", they were raiding any coastal cities they happen to find.

    • @askallois
      @askallois หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Egyptians knew exactly who the people of the sea were, they left written that they were the inhabitants of the 'islands of the Great Green'. as they called the islands west of the Mediterranean, they also knew the peoples of the northern and eastern Mediterranean, as they traded with them. Look for the wreck of Uluburun and the merchandise found, it gives you an idea of what they were trading in 1300 BC.

  • @lostpony4885
    @lostpony4885 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Sea Peoples. Sea Peoples swim. Sea Peoples Run. Saw Peoples.

  • @LD-kd7yr
    @LD-kd7yr 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That was very interesting. Thanks for covering the topic.

  • @mathiasjonsson8222
    @mathiasjonsson8222 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Super interesting. The Bronze Age Collaps and subsequent demise of both Pharaonic Egypt and the Hittite kingdom is important. This set the scene for the conflicts between the Philistines and the Israelites. It is my firm belief that they both were "sea peoples" in some shape or form.

    • @varyolla435
      @varyolla435 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Dynastic Egypt survived the collapse of the Bronze Age. It was however weakened and the subsequent Ramses line of Pharaohs were far less powerful. This was likely owing to the corresponding environmental plight which triggered said collapse.
      Previous Egyptian kingdoms had collapsed owing to prolonged environmental plight - drought typically - which devasted their economy as Egypt was long a source of agricultural products. When the Egyptian people went hungry = bad things tended to follow.

    • @Naeruve
      @Naeruve 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@varyolla435 from what I've read this is what caused Egypt to let them settle in Canaan. It seems Egypt was too weak at the time to keep fighting them so the Peleset settled in Canaan and mixed quickly with the Canaanites to form the future Philistines, modern day Palestine.

  • @MossyMozart
    @MossyMozart 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love all those names and words. They are exotic to my ears and fun to say.

  • @pretentioussystem
    @pretentioussystem 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Many thanks!
    One of the most fascinating topics of history.

  • @corvid...
    @corvid... 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im always excited for videos about 1177 collapse... And it is great to get one from Dr. Miano

  • @consciousmist
    @consciousmist 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for making this short video, really the best summary of who the sea people where that is out there.

  • @billthomas7644
    @billthomas7644 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Homer describes the sea people attack on Egypt in the Odyssey.

    • @reddixiecrat
      @reddixiecrat 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Plato describes the Sea People invasions with his Atlantean war

    • @hedgehog3180
      @hedgehog3180 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      When?

  • @Eyes_Open
    @Eyes_Open 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Appreciated this detailed summary.

  • @dixieboy5689
    @dixieboy5689 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Well, I do say ... the excruciatingly detailed account of these "sea peoples" is remarkable.
    I bet I'll win a few barroom bets now , with this new knowledge.

  • @askallois
    @askallois หลายเดือนก่อน

    In favour of the equation Shardana = Sardinia there is important evidence: 1st) triangular swords made of arsenic copper in use only by the Shardana, 2nd) helmets with horns and a central disc are the Pharaoh's royal guard fighting the peoples of the sea, also the Shardana. 3°) the pointed skirt. 4°) Sardinian vases in Cyprus, Crete, Palestine, Lebanon produced with Sardinian clay and others with local clay. 5th) Sardinian and Cypriot copper ingots in the shape of an 'ox-skin' with the 'gammata hilt' dagger emblem, in use by the Sardinian Nuragic peoples. 6°) ceramics and jewellery including scarabs and other precious Egyptian objects found in Sardinia and dated to 1200 BC 7°) Cretan vase with a drawing of a ship equal to the Sardinian votive boats and dated to 1400 BC 8°) the Shardana citadel El-Ahwat in northern Israel, discovered and excavated by the late Israeli archaeologist Zertal, with clear Nuragic architecture. There would be other clues, but it would be too long. Congratulations on the video!

  • @lyarrastark6254
    @lyarrastark6254 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another exciting topic. Thank you.

  • @ETLee-db6cn
    @ETLee-db6cn 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Some alternatives, based strictly on word similarity :
    Peleset Pylos(ite)
    Teresh Tiryns

    • @reddixiecrat
      @reddixiecrat 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Teresh Tarsis (Phoenician:TRSS); (Greek:Tartessos)

  • @rowronnie299
    @rowronnie299 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very nice, good description of the various sea peoples.Your grandmother was cute

  • @youtube_moderator
    @youtube_moderator 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:51 "Where did the Sea Peoples come from and where did they go? That's what we're going to talk about, Cotton Eye Joe."

  • @dixieboy5689
    @dixieboy5689 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yes. Clothes make the man. His hair style can undo it all, in an instant !!

  • @ronfrederick1595
    @ronfrederick1595 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video ,very informative.
    Thanks.

  • @MrShankaPerera
    @MrShankaPerera 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Finally ! :) I was waiting for this topic.

  • @MINATOREband
    @MINATOREband 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Brilliant, no unsourced material. Super interesting.

  • @WillWilsonII
    @WillWilsonII 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I can't be the only one who pictured them doing the walk like an Egyptian dance back and forth

  • @mayflowerlash11
    @mayflowerlash11 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I have a question about the inscriptions displayed at 7:42. There seems to be scratches, or more accurately, vertically aligned divots cut into the rock in many places, but in places which do not detract from the ancient information inscribed. What are these? I have never seen them before.

  • @worstyoutuberever546
    @worstyoutuberever546 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is my favorite Bronze Age mystery thank you for this episode

  • @GroberWeisenstein
    @GroberWeisenstein 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Loreal makes a good hair paste in case you are interested, matte finish.

    • @rogerprice5297
      @rogerprice5297 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I can believe more people aren’t noticing this. I think it’s a nod to Tsoukalos😁. More power to you David!

  • @gaufrid1956
    @gaufrid1956 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    An excellent video! I've always loved ancient history, and I have to admit I favor the Hittites. I'm sure that the Ahhiyawa would have been part of the Sea Peoples.

  • @gregorynixon2945
    @gregorynixon2945 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent as a primer or introduction to the Peoples of the Sea. Two minor points. 1. Because the Sea Peoples were likely migrants does not exclude the possibility that they were also pirates and plunderers, especially in their vanguard. Many cities were left devasted, period. 2. We must remember that the Egyptians were more propagandists than historians, so when the scribes of Ramses III write their list of places already destroyed by the Sea Peoples it may not be accurate. For example, Carchemish is on the list, but archaeology has revealed no such devastation at this time; in fact, quite the opposite.

  • @honodle7219
    @honodle7219 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very helpful. I had always thogugt, wrongly, that the Minoans were the 'sea people'.

  • @pure_ayhanium
    @pure_ayhanium 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the vid, buddy

  • @canalsolaveritas4435
    @canalsolaveritas4435 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great. Could you tell me if the Phoenician civilization was formed in this context of cultural exchange (what is the most appropriate term?) between the peoples of the sea with the autochtenes (Amurru? Hittites? Hurrians? Apirus?) who founded coastal cities far from Mesopotamia and free from military interventions?Are there reports from ancient historians about the history of the Phoenician people?

    • @askallois
      @askallois หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Phoenicians appeared in 900 BC, and it was a name given by the Greeks to this people who were settled in Lebanon, but they are presumed to be the descendants of the Shardana who returned to the western Mediterranean territories. They settled in southern Sardinia in 900 BC and mixed with the local population without violence.

    • @canalsolaveritas4435
      @canalsolaveritas4435 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@askallois há incognitas...Descendentes de Agenor participaram da guerra de troia, indo pela cilícia. Cadmo indo para a samotracia levando o alfabeto fenicio para os gregos. Sidônios se estabelecendo na siria ao mesmo tempo que os hititas.

  • @bartvisscher2647
    @bartvisscher2647 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great show

  • @jeremyd1869
    @jeremyd1869 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very interesting, thanks.

  • @MyMy-tv7fd
    @MyMy-tv7fd 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I normally just mute the awful 'inline' advertorials, but this one I quite liked

  • @InquisitiveBible
    @InquisitiveBible 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Some scholars also think the Ahhiyawa/Achaeans were the ancestors of the biblical Hivites.

  • @wolfmoon4753
    @wolfmoon4753 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    When Rameses of Egypt was preparing to fighting the powerful Sea Peoples, HE ABSOLUTELY KNEW they were not black skinned nor were they recognized by the empire to be of black origin. EGYPT KNEW of white and black peoples and even of the asians in the East, so suddenly RED wasn't in their vocabulary? But we RED MEN of America remember. (Rome didn't eliminate all the knowledge.) The 100 year defence against the SEA PEOPLE. Our massive great ships crossed the great waters. We chased your brethren out of our lands (OLMECS) for introducing human sacriXicing. (It is a story many ancients of the south speak of.) One thing people dont know are the tens of thousands of copper and iron mines found all along the great lakes of Canada. Armor. Helmits. Spears. Swords. All of this has been found and dated back to 10,000+ years. Mitochondrial Haplogroup X2a is proof we have always been here. It is a 65,000 year old DNA marker, however many tribes do now have it because it was inserted by the wise MAGii of Atlantis. Funny its in the peoples around the Mediterranean... as ive said. We the Red Men of America know the true story. Our oldest stories speak of returning to ancestral land after the great flood. We lost our land in the East to the rising waters. It is now below.
    Our language contains the following linguistics: Galilean-Aramaic, Adamic-Hebrew, Latin and Greek.
    Elders from our lands went to Jerusalem to complete a ceremony long lost to the Israelites and completed it fully. The Rabbi there were also furious with our elders for speaking the holiest of languages when ceremony began. Enochian. When my elders spoke in english explaining "it was what we all spoke back home" and bewildered the Rabbi witnessing.
    There is much the Red Man knows.
    Edit: I forgot to mention we mention the birth of the dawn star around 3700 winter moons ago. This caused terrible cataclysms across the earth. I suppose around 1700 BC. Ekosi.

  • @panepomodoro
    @panepomodoro 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video!

  • @landspide
    @landspide 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great intro!!!!

  • @cindyreagan2884
    @cindyreagan2884 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks!

  • @contextologia
    @contextologia 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excelent, David! 👏📚✅️

  • @terryvision69
    @terryvision69 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Super thank's

  • @mheiseus
    @mheiseus 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's gotta be Mycenae, because it all adds up... The illiad and Odyssey are just a romantic version of events.

  • @ThePoliticrat
    @ThePoliticrat 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    King Ammurapi be like:
    “We cannot get out : we cannot get out.
    They have taken the bridge and the second h
    all. Frár & Lóni & Náli fell the
    re bravely while the rest retreated to
    Mazarbul. We still holdin
    g: but hope undying. Óin's p
    arty went 5 days ago but today only
    4 returned: the pool is up to the wall
    at Westgate: the watcher in the water t
    ook Óin - we cannot get out: the end com
    es soon we hear drums in the deep.
    they are coming”

  • @timfriday9106
    @timfriday9106 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    anmyone else instantly respond to "where did they come from and where did they go?" with "cottoneye joe!"? lolol =P

  • @thomasbell7033
    @thomasbell7033 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I could almosr swear fhat's Alan Partridge in the photo over Doc Miano's left shoulder.

  • @benghazi4216
    @benghazi4216 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Subject alone deserves a thumbs up!

  • @george3737
    @george3737 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You did not mention the sea peoples had iron weapons that were superior to bronze weapons. It is interesting that they brought their families and it might have been a migration rather than an invasion.

    • @NefariousKoel
      @NefariousKoel 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      True but migration was invasion for much of history, same thing. Many examples in history and pre-history of a snowball effect when that happened. Notably all the expansions out of Asia. Which further drove the invaded to turn and do the same to their neighbors. I suspect this was a similar situation. It seems the Aegean area became rife with turmoil and destruction right before the Sea Peoples started doing their thing.

  • @skyjuiceification
    @skyjuiceification 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think the key cultural change happening in these contacts were Iron Age techne meeting the Bronze Age version. this really marked the beginning of the iron age if I am correct.

  • @mariakelly90210
    @mariakelly90210 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Maybe The Sea Peoples were Klingons in disguise.

  • @NachtmahrNebenan
    @NachtmahrNebenan 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Best read seems *"1177 B.C.: The Year Civilization Collapsed"* by Eric Cline. I hope the misleading naming of "Sea People" will vanish one day. The whole bronze world collapsed and most of it was far from the sea side. From Cornwall to Afghanistan there was a major crisis with mass migration everywhere. Caused by many deviating events, from earthquakes and volcanoes to draught and famine.

  • @rossdocherty8602
    @rossdocherty8602 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks

  • @mccallosone4903
    @mccallosone4903 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    more info in 18 minutes than every other video ive watched on the subject. on a side note, mustve been a windy day when you made the video

    • @GothPaoki
      @GothPaoki 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Watch history times doc on the subject. It's two hours long but very detailed.

  • @paddyodriscoll8648
    @paddyodriscoll8648 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think it should also be remembered they had ships. Not an average thing to have back then. Yes, many might have been ex mercenaries, and simple pirates, but, if you were in the Bronze Age when trade was great and peace was relatively strong, and then the Mediterranean economy collapsed, and you had been a trader and knew the sea and all the ports and had ships? You’d be in a unique position to exploit that angle. Just add alcohol….

  • @liamsheerin9683
    @liamsheerin9683 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Brilliant

  • @JM-bm4ou
    @JM-bm4ou 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dude -loving the hair... Great stuff on the Sea Peoples too

  • @sdepazos
    @sdepazos 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Seems be linked with the south peoples on the Iberian peninsula, we have a breadcrumb dots line between the mythical stories about atlantis, the more later Tartessos, and the Motas or Motillas a kind of temples or fortified watering wells, a dozens of that around south Spain, quite similar to the other concentric circles merged style stone fortified buildings in numerous Mediterranean islands. At least a quite hints about a remote possible connection to the Caucasian Iberia, seems similar to other doubles connections you mentioned in the video, when you tell us about which people refer in each Sea People, the cases of roots around Anatolia, but the later settlement in the final region far from the roots. Maybe they are true, but indeed displaced in time. Very Analogous with the European colonies in America founded with the European cities and kingdoms, or the rivers duplicated with same etymology root in both sides of a great mountains, because the same people named it.

  • @mickdipiano8768
    @mickdipiano8768 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My favorite history TH-cam covering my favorite part of history and making the most informative and concise video. Woohoo