Ive had the Jupiter for about 5 weeks now. While it felt like a toy to me for me at the beginning, I recently took it on a 3 week long trip overseas as a beater and something I would be ok with losing. Since then it's grown on me so much, I actually do really enjoy it and see it as being a real entry in my collection... its just so damn fun to wear.
Does the watch feel rather cheap with the bioceramic plastic? Because i've seen videos talking about the built quality of it is bad. Is your watch still working fine? Does your watch have any scratches?
@@aimbotd4592 strap is awful but I always planned on getting a custom one for it anyway. Watch is still working perfectly and has barely any scratches. The case might feel cheap at first because its so light, but it has held up very, very well. Still loving mine.
I was pretty hyped about these but not anymore. The lack of online availability has a big part on it. And the more I learn about them, the more I think I would rather buy some nice Casio for the same amount of money, that will feel less like a toy.
That’s exactly why I bought the CasiOak. Really fun watch at a cheap price and available online for everyone to order. That release makes much more sense to me than this one.
I own a Speedmaster Pro and want one of these too. I think these MoonSwatches are a great idea that bring attention to the brand. That said, I also think Swatch completely bungled the launch by making them exclusive to a handful of dealers. I wouldn’t drive 300+ miles to my nearest Swatch AD to buy one of these, line or no line. Hopefully they cave and put these up for sale online eventually.
Stating Omega not being a luxury brand is simply wrong. You could buy any Rolex you wanted five years ago and that didn't mean they weren't luxury at the time.
I agree this is debatable and that the definition isn't fixed but I cannot see why Rolex for example would be luxury if omega isn't. IMO they are in the same tier.
I was on-board with this until Swatch dropped the ball about making them available online. The only way this release makes sense to me is to make these watches easily obtainable. I would have bought several just to have in the collection as a novelty and an online release would have brought Omega to the attention of a whole new generation of watch buyers and enthusiasts. Now it is just an interesting blip on the watch radar that will fade from view pretty quickly without any lasting impact as only those within close proximity to a Swatch boutique can get them. While I think the watches are fun, I will not travel long distances, stand in line, or pay over retail for them. I also don't understand the concern about these cheapening the value of the real moon watch. Yes it is a Speedmaster but it is NOT a Speedmaster Professional.
Yes! Not to mention that as soon as there is availability, aggressive scalpers swoop in and manage to grab stock before everyone else. It was a cool plastic watch I would have definitely gotten, but the "sneaker culture" overhype has killed it for me.
@@achiu31 that's actually precisely what it is. The scalper sneaker/GPU culture. The moment they said it would be available online, I knew it would age like milk lol.
Well if that's the case, Rolex is Premium not "Luxury" lol. Only difference between Rolex and Omega is marketing. Because from a technical stand point Omega watches are better and more accurate than Rolex. METAS certifies, 15,000 Gaus Resistance, etc....
You live in a different world from the majority of the population if you think Tudor and Omega aren't luxury brands. Most of the population would see a £3000 watch as a huge luxury, particularly given increases in the cost of living.
Love your videos, but think that saying Omega isn't a luxury watch (but Rolex is) is a bad take. Rolex makes millions of watches per year, any sense of exclusivity is falsely manufactured by the relationship between the ADs and flippers you say you hate. I'm not knocking Rolex, but rather clarifying that Omega is every bit the watch that Rolex is. The rest is branding. Even then, Omega has long been second (recently third, behind Cartier) in that regard.
If Omega is not luxury, then rolex is also just premium. Where is the difference between the two? I think its mainly brand value. So do you say that only things with a reputable brand name are luxury? Doesn't make much sense to me. You complain about watch snobbery and say that Omega is not luxury in the same fucking video?????? Thats pathetic.
Does someone with an AMG GT Black series moan about the fact that you can also buy a little diddy white van that also has a three pointed start on the grill. No! I still want a Speedmaster,....
Well, it is not an Omega because it is not made by Omega. And hold a moonshine gold speedmaster in your hands and than tell me that Omega is not a luxury brand. These watches are fun and they don’t change the value and romanticism around Speedmaster.
I disagree with you on Swatch is not at fault and it is the flippers. I think Swatch has caused these watches to be unattainable and hence the flippers are taking advantage. Had these watches been available online as advertised, we wouldn't be seeing this...
1. Omega is 100% a luxury brand. Tudor is too. You can call them "Entry-Level Luxury" but that's still in the luxury realm. "Luxury" tier watches start at around 1000-2000 USD. Seeing as that's the point at which luxury-caliber specs start becoming standard--hand assembly and finishing, chronometer ratings, precious metals, advanced finishing techniques (such as the laser etching on the Seamaster dial), etc.--that's where the line should be. 2. Blame is not just on the flippers, it's on the retailers and brands who build their purchasing systems so easily exploitable by the flippers. There's a reason why Apple, for example, has been historically so good at warding off flippers, even as their products are so high in demand.
It really is all debatable and it would make for an interesting conversation. With regards to Tudor their own PR team say "tudor isn't luxury, we are a premium brand".
@@BarkandJack interesting, I did not realize that about Tudor's own PR team. That being said...I'm not sure if I agree with them lol. Sure, compared to Rolex they're not, but compared to so much of the rest of the industry, they're definitely in a price bracket often considered that. If it's not price that defines luxury watches, what does? I'd be curious to see a video where you really draw a line in the sand about what qualities explicitly define it to you.
Yeah, but Omega states they are luxury (check the Wiki and their site). Not sure a premium brand can get away with making a $35k all gold Speedmaster. Also they regularly create watches in excess of $100k. January they released the Canopus gold version of the Speedmaster - which is the most expensive at retail steal wealth watch on the market now .... since nothing can distinguish it from others other than the hidden laser engraved case ... very very few PP or AP, et cetera are made in steel. And we all know Tudor is entry level Rolex and designed as such. Omega guaranteed is not in a competition (other than to sell their own watches) with Rolex or anyone else, they are doing their thing ... always have. And in that maybe you are right - they are more a watch technology company than a status brand like Rolex or AP. Their movements are as accurate as Rolex, but never slow, they use Rhodium, which is more expensive and more durable than white gold, they don't advertise, or push exclusivity as much, since they are watches for watch geeks. Hence, the new CK 859 ... which is in my opinion is the sleeper hit of 2022 (sorry sprite). Keep an eye out for vintage prices shooting up. Speedmasters and Seamaster over the next 10 years will have auction prices increasing by a factor of 10-20. An Alaska project just went for $450k and a tropical speedy hit $3.4 million 6 months ago. Things are just getting started .... if you are in the know. Check out the Davidoff interviews by Wei Koh ... there's something going on and the Moonswatch is just the start ...
@sylenmo I think the word luxury is subjective. -to me tudor is not but omega could be, not the speedy, smp300 or aqua terra but the higher level pieces they make.
If an Aqua Terra full gold watch with a dial filled with 498 diamonds and a solid caliber at $51K is not luxury or a DeVille rose gold Tourbillon piece at $176K isn't either.... then the concept of Luxury is another thing for you my dear Adrian.
I've gone off these now, I wanted one at the time when it would have been a cool watch to aquire. But I now see it for the low quality product it is, fun yes but obtainable no, and I'm not going out of my way to get hold of one. I will put my money towards something else. With the way things are going probably the gas bill or some petrol... ⛽
As a speedy pro owner, I love these moonswatches. I would have loved to have one of these 10-15 years ago when I could not afford my hesalite speedmaster.
Are we really comparing a REAL Omega Speedmaster to this overpriced plastic? It's not a watered down version, it's a completely different watch. It's a cool looking watch don't get me wrong and to be priced around $200 is okay but anything more than that is an abomination.
Nobody is comparing it (although it’s often easy to confuse which is which). We are just stating the fact that the MoonSwatch is part of Omegas Speedmaster™️ range 😉
Forget whether it’s a Swatch or an Omega. It is regardless of the ceramic content, it’s a piece of plastic and too many people were simply chasing the hype and hoping for the potential to bang it on auction sites and earn some easy cash. Good luck to them. 😂
I mean, the same can be said for Rolex…..it’s a chunk of mass produced steel that has almost zero horological value and yet people wet themselves, pay 5 times retail.
WARNING - there are loads of scams around. You will only be contacted by my Instagram account @barkandjack and you will NOT need to send any money. I will pay for shipping. Do not send money to anyone!
Flippers spoil many brands unfortunately. I emailed a few on ebay enquiring about the exorbitant prices and I got so many lies as replies (special limited editions, never to be repeated, that sort of stuff) sad bunch of people Good topic Adrian 👍
I don’t think problem is the flippers , bigger problem is the people are paying over retail for anything they want and they can’t wait to get it from AD and this is what’s happening starting with Rolex and most brands are following it . Really sad that watch collecting is becoming investment vs passion and hobby I want that watch btw 🤣
A very fun watch that I personally wouldn’t pay more than £100 for if I’m being totally honest. I see it as a cash grab/cheap exposure on a company in Swatch that’s let’s be fair was closing stores everywhere 4 months ago! Great move for Swatch!!! But I can see through it a bit . Can’t say they aren’t fun though!;)
"I hate how much negativity has been out toward Swatch...It isn't Swatch, it's the flippers...don't get grumpy with Swatch, get grumpy with the people who are flipping them." - Oof, Adrian, normally I'm a fan, but this is way off base. Where to start? You're right. It isn't the fault of Swatch that flippers are buying watches and keeping them out of the hands of genuine customers, in the same way that PS5s, Air Jordans, and graphics cards end up on eBay and StockX at hefty markups. That's an unfortunate side effect of demand outweighing supply and opportunists seeing a way to make a quick buck. It is what it is. But to say that Swatch bears no responsibility at all is a level of drinking the Kool aid I didn't think I'd ever see from this channel. If you take a look at other companies with this problem--Sony, Nike, Nvidia, to name just a few--all of them are at least trying to help their customers. Whether that's anti-bot measures, redirecting stock to different retailers, lotteries, line management systems at store restocks...there's a concerted effort being made to retain genuine customers that just isn't happening Swatch. Now, you could argue that this is all part of some grand marketing/PR plan. But, and this comes from someone that works in that industry, the confused communications (online sales anyone?), continued poor organisation at stores, and a general lack of stock suggests that Swatch wasn't quite prepared for this level of interest. That's perhaps short sighted, but it happens. But it's what Swatch has done since that's infuriated customers, which is to say, absolutely nothing. No systems to try and deal with flippers at stores, no bot prevention to allow online sales, nothing. That's a poor showing from a large consumer-facing company like Swatch. It has the resources to do better and, if it cares about its customers, it should. Swatch can't stop the flippers and it can't be blamed for them, of course. But it can make life harder for them and easier for its customers.
i love the moonswatch, especially the different colors of it. I originally thought most of the colors were bad but after looking at them for a long time they've all started to grow on me. I personally have a Mission to Pluto and i always forget that it's on my wrist. I love that it's both a tool and a statement. its probably my favorite watch of my collection
I hope they don’t just limit this collaboration to the Moonwatch, this could be just the start of something of bigger cute collabs. They could venture to expanding the concept to the Seamaster Omega x Swatch collab too: there are 31 varieties of the Sea theme for them to think about (e.g., Atlantic, Mediterranean, Red, Baltic, Arabian, South China, Celebes, etc). Another one is Railmaster collab series: the likes of Amtrak, British, Eurostar, Trenitalia, Oriental Express, SBB, etc). Better yet, the Constellation collab series would do great with so many possible variants.
Omega is selling it's brand and Speedmaster design for 260 dollars, Swatch is selling a disposable watch for 260 dollars. Flippers ruin the gray market.
Omega has always been known as a luxury brand . Same with tag heuer. Even seiko are to some people. If your a non watch person , but wanted a watch to tell the time , you would probably just get a casio. Let's face it, if your spending north of 1k on a watch , it would be a luxury brand /watch to most people. With a seiko sla043 costing £4080 new now, are you going to say that's not a luxury watch ? Because it is. I don't often disagree with you , but your wrong saying omega and tudor are entry level luxury. Maybe to a millionaire Adrian. Buy a solid gold tudor and it will cost you more than a rolex sub , so they aren't exactly cheap brands. I love watches but it's not often I see people with omegas on , or Tudors etc , because you have to be into watches to pay 3k plus for a watch for a start !!!
Fair enough to state it is debatable whether OMEGA is a luxury brand, its your opinion. IMO what can be seen as ' luxury' is 'Subjective' but not, 'Objective'. You cant really define what is 'luxury brand' but 'exclusivity' yes ,you can, look how Rolex regulates their supply. BUT you CAN'T simply state the brand is not luxury if it is not exclusive, it's the whole different story. Those who earn low wages or salary can see OMEGA as a luxury brand if they decide to spend 90% of their whole year saving on a Seamaster, but some, just like you, with bunch of 'luxury' Rolex, bla bla can see that OMEGA is not luxury just because you can actually but them at retail at anytime without having your name written on the list. It's your EGO to state OMEGA is not luxury. You've had my respect, a Rolex and Omega fanboy,a Seamaster and Submariner owner, but not anymore. You've made a HUGE mistake. ****UNSUBSCRIBED
200 pounds for a plastic watch with logo - this is a snob definition. ;) I have nothing against this watch, it's just not my thing to buy a watch and then do not use it because it can be damaged so easily. You can buy micro or Seiko for this price which gives you more fun and watch for the price.
Wow! Even Omega is not a luxury brand. That is some statement. I like the way you then went on to show a Rolex though, maybe trying to heavily imply that Rolex is and Omega isn't? Subtle. I am sure if Omega cannot be classified as luxury, then neither should Rolex be, because by most important luxury measures, Omega is slightly ahead of Rolex (If both are priced at their msrp): Rolex produces over a million watches per year, Omega 800k, AP and PP below 60k, FPJ and Mosier, much fewer. If you're talking about grand complications, Rolex is not even in the same league as Omega etc...etc there r more reasons but I won't go into them here. I just feel that this is very bias. Also, the flip price of Rolex watches have been falling in the Far East, and funny enough, everytime this happens, Rolex-mouthpieces on TH-cam always makes some subtle videos promoting the brand. I don't mind this, but, dare I say, trodding on other similar brands in order to elevate a worse one is very disingenuous on your part. Anyway, I think whoever came up with the MoonSwatch idea is a bloody marketing genius, it certainly created a lot of marketing buzz, most of my friends now say they will buy the whole set.
Random grumpy guy leaving grumpy comment based on grumpy incorrect assumption in a lame attempt to make himself feel better about him grumpiness. I hope you find happiness buddy.
Dude, it’s an overpriced low quality quartz movement plastic case Swatch Omega Speedmaster and piss off availability problem causing them to sell for ridiculous prices to stupid people on the used market. I’m done, it’s crap. Funny how I’m sure you’d have a different opinion if your beloved Rolex brand went into plastic quartz Instagram launches of their watches
First off I like the moonswatch and I own a 3861. Im not a stupid person nor a watch snob. But for you to say and declare that it is "A Speedmaster" and then call those that say it isnt stupid I think is just silly and completely miscategorizng the entire release of the moonswatch. You've done this as a way to add controversy to the already stupid debate. To me this looks like an attempt to legitimize your video as if your opinion matters above the rest. I personally find this pretty shallow. I'm making this comment because it isn't a speedmaster; this is clearly a novelty item and anyone with half a brain can see that. Am I butt hurt because Omega collabed with Swatch to make a $250 plastic watch that looks like a speedy and has had the title speedy slapped on the dial no. Why do I say that because I know what it is lol and it's not "A" Speedmaster. A Speedmaster is A Speedmaster, I can't even believe we've reached the point that I would have to outline this. This is technically a Swatch Moonswatch. Swatch manufacturers the watch and the collab is taking the design of the speedy as a way of celebration to create the novelty of a Speedmaster, this doesnt mean it is A Speedmaster. this really isn't that hard to understand.
MY COMMENT: Your a class act so happy you stayed out of the nonsense that's going on with some so called watch reviewers that are turning out to be cheap scammers and financially challenged. I have not joined your channel yet and am seriously considering it. BTW- I am not writing this comment for the watch, frankly I have no interest in the watch.
Is luxury and scarcity linked? Are BMW and Mercedes premium or luxury? Or can brands have premium and a luxury range? Is the gold speed master, premium or luxury? Would love to see a video to get your thoughts. I am on the fence and would like your thoughts.
Watch idiots…’I won’t waste my money on a $250 toy watch…’ Also watch idiots… ‘I am going to go down to the AD and buy a $3500 Tudor Rolex homage with a modified ETA movement!’
I’m a collector of Omegas. When you spend a fortune on them , then they go and make a cheap version, I think it takes away Prestige from the Brand. Sort of like Ferrari doing a Colab with Nissan. Ferrari owners would rightly be pissed off.
Gotta call BS on the "it's not swatch, it's not Rolex causing the issues". You know how they could fix it? Sell them online with a numbered queue. Rolex could do the same too. Doesn't even have to be online only. You go into the shop, put a deposit down, and get a number in the queue. But they both don't, because they want the artificial hype, that they themselves have generated. So they do deserve the hate directed at them.
More people are mad about the lack of availability given you now can't buy online even though they explicitly said as much during release. When a company blatantly lies to you, there are few things they sell that are worth your trust.
Send Uranus to Archieluxury. Tell him it’s to burry the hatchet. That’s where he hides watches when he smuggles. On a different note, Omega is a little nicer than Tudor. The movements, the case backs, the solid gold rather than the gold capping.
Oisin from the Timeless Watch Channel has been very bad read the posts on the Omega Forum, he’s not returning watches and swearing and cussing at anybody that asks him about it …. TH-camr not returning watches
at 7:32 you can see several scratches on the crystal....I can accept the fact it doesn't have sapphire at that price but it should't scratch that easily.
i think saying flippers were the problem at launch is a little disingenuous, swatch UK had circa 1k watches available across the country. pretty certain even if we weeded out the flippers, not everyone that wanted one would of got one.
Really used to enjoy your videos but the couple months they have had a really different energy, mostly negative. Now they are pretty unenjoyable and hard to listen to. Sound really self important. Good luck to ya.
if your watch costs more than your mortgage payment its a luxury. Lets not define luxury solely based on what the 1% can afford. There are obviously tiers to this stuff.
‘Luxury’ is highly subjective Having worn a Lorus from Argos as a kid for £16, a £300 seiko is highly luxurious. As is a moonswatch. My millionaire cousin used to go through a Rolex a month. A seiko would be trash and a moonswatch a toy. Watchmakers ultimately make watches to make money. And this quartz collaboration is a great way for Omega to generate interest for themselves and sell watches. For one I think these are fun and look nice. So why not. Btw I have a speedmaster professional and I don’t care what people call these, they’re clearly a fun omega watch
There is nothing in the current catalogue that would tempt me to buy an Omega so I am not bothered what it does to the brand (unless it drives down the price of some of their older watches). Its just a quartz watch so in my book it's worth £50 tops but if people buy into the hype and enjoy it good luck to them.
I don’t think we should expect substandard build quality just because it’s $200. For that same amount of money you can get waches from Casio, Seiko and Citizen that would last a lifetime. Heck, for a few $100 more you can get a Bulova Lunar Pilot, an actual moon watch (more or less).
Hay-fever does suck, almost as much as the Moonswatch. Ah well at least you can throw the moonswatch back in the recycle bin it came from and it won't come back again.......unlike damn hay-fever!
The anger towards resellers is ridiculous and i had to buy one by one of them but what other way can i get that watch it's ilogical to get angry at somebody that is selling what you want and cant get in the store
Well I love the MoonSwatch but it is a Swatch much more than it is an Omega regardless of what it says on the dial and it is also more a plastic watch than anything else. Not hating on it, just saying...
It’s not just what it says on the dial, it’s the whole case shape and the design of the watch. Of course it’s swatch materials but everything else is omega.
Just because Omega available and not sold out does not mean it is not luxury - similar to Tudor (waiting lists creeping in on some brands). Rolex and Omega I would argue similar level and Rolex make a million watches. Tudor getting there. Only slight issue with the marketing was it becoming like a sneaker drop… fun but annoying for most people trying to get them. Hopefully will be online soon. Great video and debate as always buddy .
I guarantee it’s either because they can’t produce enough, they thought they would all be bought by bots or they wanna keep it exclusive and hard to get
As it may be out of customers control to call the moonswatch an omega or a cheap facsimile... I would suggest omega found themselves in a similar position where the swatch group didn't provide omega with much of a choice. Love it or hate it, the moonswatch is here. Bottom line, its a watch to be enjoyed. If someone doesnt like it dont buy it. I would suggest a lot of the haters are more upset at the lack of access to the watch than the watch itself. My two cents ... Cheers 😎
Unfortunately Adrian much as I love social media, your channel etc, this is the cause of the fads which lead to stampede buying and product shortages. Before watch channels most watches were always available. Once watch gurus say Rolex is the watch to get , they become scarce . The same with fuel shortages, tell people that fuel is scarce and it becomes non existence as everyone tries to buy it. If SM has said the moonswatch was rubbish maybe we could get one. But as lemmings we all follow SM to say we have the “in” product and so flippers cash in and we all loose out.
Only reason I'm pissed off with the company is because they decided not to sell them online after they said they would. Driving hundreds of miles for a chance to get one at a Swatch store
This is the most ridiculous video on this watch I have seen. You contradict yourself constantly. “This is a real Omega”, then “This is a cheap Swatch” a few minutes later. This is NOT an Omega. It’s a swatch with Omega branding. Don’t you see what it says on the caseback? Can you buy one from an Omega AD? Why are you trolling us with this nonsense?
I am a Rolex fanboy and only own 3 Omegas but calling them "not a luxury brand" must be a joke. How are they any less luxurious than Rolex? Because theyre arent hyped by YT and IG? Average Joe on 25k a year can dream about an Omega so yeah I would call it luxury. Same price bracket too..
@@BarkandJack, you cannot really fault Omega for piling on limited editions and commemoratives to maintain interest and generate income, but to create a range of watches that would be affordable and desirable to the masses and then to fail to deliver is plain, old-fashioned incompetence.
Bad take regarding flippers. Flippers are incentivised to flip because of the artificial scarcity that Swatch has created, not in spite of it. I don't think this launch has affected Omega all that much (sales of moonwatches have more or less proven that) but I think it would well have affected Swatch's credibility.
Flippers flip for their own greed. The scarcity isn’t artificial, swatch is now running their factory 7 days a week to try and meet demand, rather than the normal 5 days. Sales of the steel moonwatch have increased massively.
Well, we disagree on one thing...no, the price does not reflect the quality. I have a Citizen Nighthawk which I paid 200 USD for, some 5 years ago. The quality is light years ahead of this MoonSwatch. At best, this is a 100 dollars worth in terms of build quality...and I'm being very generous.
I absolutely agree. If we remove the design and Omega branding then it’s probably a $50-60 watch. I guess this is the odd part of the watch, timeless design meets throw away product.
Except you never really say anything negative about people flipping Rolex's, so why the offense here? I also take exception to you comparing Omega to Tudor. Spoken like a true Rolex fanboy.
If Omega isn't a luxury brand then nor is Rolex. Both brands produce 500k-1M watches a year, neither are hand finished and come at a similar price point. Tudor is a notch below both brands and is not on par with Omega.
I want one, but I'm not paying over retail... And I'm not traveling to London for the chance of them being in stock. I want one, but I'm putting any effort into it.
And it’s really not worth any effort at all. I was lucky enough to stay in a hotel next to a swatch shop and could pop my head in every time I walked passed.
I have to say I think Omega is a luxury brand 100%. I take your point about premium brand but I genuinely think Omega’s heritage and expertise and quality of product absolutely qualify them as a luxury brand. They are certainly in the luxury price bracket. If you are talking about a distinction between the upper echelons, Patek, AP I get that… but I think it’s the wrong distinction to say Omega are not a luxury brand, when that is precisely what they are. Possibly some other swatch group brands are premium but Omega is top tier. Just my opinion, and I do respect yours.
Own a Speedmaster Pro from new. Absolutely have no problem with the Moonswatch and will actually get one eventually. I love the concept and democratisation of watches concept. But will not buy from a flipper. Good video.
A watch should be more than marketing hype. Take away the hype, Omega brand equity and what are you left with? A nicely designed but terribly made low quality product that bleeds on your wrist. I think this is what some dislike about the Moonswatch. No one would bother with this abomination if it weren’t for the Omega/Speedmaster logo.
This has to be one of the greatest marketing campaigns ever. They will grab more peoples interest into the watch world. This can be their "first" step to have the grail watch. Its a fun watch. The advantage is that Swatch can do this, other brands if they attempt or would like simply can't. The downside for the MoonSwatch its the flippers, they are bad to the watch community, but understand it from a demand and supply point of view.
Keen observations. Many premium brands have made similar moves. It's good for the industry. It creates greater interest not only in the brand but the community itself. Good on Omega!
Another great video man, I’m still waiting to buy mine. However since they won’t be sold online, I’ll have to wait until I or a family member goes to a Swatch store since the nearest one to me is 8hrs away and I’m not making the journey for one. Keep up the great work brother ❤️
I am an owner of the Omega Speedmaster, bought it as my grail watch...love it. Also love MoonSwatch, think it makes these amazing watches slightly more attainable, more enjoyable for the masses. I think it's a brilliant thing.
I'm no doubt parroting many others here in this comment section and indeed many other reviews about this release but I feel the price is way too steep for what is being offered. I'd love to be able to get my hands on a Pluto edition. Unfortunately I'm 2 and 4hrs away from 2 of the 3 approved retail locations here in Canada and for 327$cad not including 13% tax, I'd rather take that money and buy something else. They do look cool though. Also the flip flop of not selling them online is extremely bad for the consumer.
Was in omega Glasgow the staff member said a young lad came in proud as punch wearing a moonswatch,when they asked the staff member price of cheapest strap that would fit their moonswatch they did an immediate u turn out of the shop as it was dearer than the watch😂
Most people would consider spending £4000-£5000 plus on an Omega, or indeed a Tudor, as a luxury purchase, so I would consider a reality check Adrian. No they are not Rolex, AP and all the other hyper models that demand huge premiums, but many thousands £££s spent on a single item that you wear simply to tell time on a wrist is a big outlay.
Ive had the Jupiter for about 5 weeks now. While it felt like a toy to me for me at the beginning, I recently took it on a 3 week long trip overseas as a beater and something I would be ok with losing. Since then it's grown on me so much, I actually do really enjoy it and see it as being a real entry in my collection... its just so damn fun to wear.
How is it after 3 months?
@@overman2306 thrown in the toilet probably.
Does the watch feel rather cheap with the bioceramic plastic? Because i've seen videos talking about the built quality of it is bad. Is your watch still working fine? Does your watch have any scratches?
@@aimbotd4592 strap is awful but I always planned on getting a custom one for it anyway. Watch is still working perfectly and has barely any scratches. The case might feel cheap at first because its so light, but it has held up very, very well. Still loving mine.
@@quovadis1951 so u still recommend this watch?
I was pretty hyped about these but not anymore. The lack of online availability has a big part on it. And the more I learn about them, the more I think I would rather buy some nice Casio for the same amount of money, that will feel less like a toy.
That’s exactly why I bought the CasiOak. Really fun watch at a cheap price and available online for everyone to order. That release makes much more sense to me than this one.
Well said man!
Amen 👌🏻
I echo this completely!
I was pretty stoked on them as an owner of a moonwatch but given the availability and poor quality, I’d rather stick with a quality Casio or Seiko.
I own a Speedmaster Pro and want one of these too. I think these MoonSwatches are a great idea that bring attention to the brand. That said, I also think Swatch completely bungled the launch by making them exclusive to a handful of dealers. I wouldn’t drive 300+ miles to my nearest Swatch AD to buy one of these, line or no line. Hopefully they cave and put these up for sale online eventually.
Stating Omega not being a luxury brand is simply wrong. You could buy any Rolex you wanted five years ago and that didn't mean they weren't luxury at the time.
What is luxury is debatable. And one could argue a £200 watch is luxury and one could also argue that 5 years ago Rolex wasn't luxury.
I agree this is debatable and that the definition isn't fixed but I cannot see why Rolex for example would be luxury if omega isn't. IMO they are in the same tier.
@@MrLeumass 100% and it is cretinous to suggest otherwise.
Matt554 Why mention Rolex 🤣
Luxury is debatable….. but Rolex is more luxurious…. End of 😉
Sea Dwellers were also wait list 20 years ago 😉😉
They're not luxury. Now or ever.
Omega isn't a luxury brand, really dude?
They often talk crap
I was on-board with this until Swatch dropped the ball about making them available online. The only way this release makes sense to me is to make these watches easily obtainable. I would have bought several just to have in the collection as a novelty and an online release would have brought Omega to the attention of a whole new generation of watch buyers and enthusiasts. Now it is just an interesting blip on the watch radar that will fade from view pretty quickly without any lasting impact as only those within close proximity to a Swatch boutique can get them. While I think the watches are fun, I will not travel long distances, stand in line, or pay over retail for them. I also don't understand the concern about these cheapening the value of the real moon watch. Yes it is a Speedmaster but it is NOT a Speedmaster Professional.
^^^ same
Classic bait and switch. Say it will be available online, then make it store exclusive. You're right, it's just skin flakes under a rug now.
Yes! Not to mention that as soon as there is availability, aggressive scalpers swoop in and manage to grab stock before everyone else. It was a cool plastic watch I would have definitely gotten, but the "sneaker culture" overhype has killed it for me.
@@achiu31 that's actually precisely what it is. The scalper sneaker/GPU culture. The moment they said it would be available online, I knew it would age like milk lol.
Absolutely agree. Unless easily available and online I have zero interest in travelling miles to a boutique.
Well if that's the case, Rolex is Premium not "Luxury" lol. Only difference between Rolex and Omega is marketing. Because from a technical stand point Omega watches are better and more accurate than Rolex. METAS certifies, 15,000 Gaus Resistance, etc....
Great point
I would say they are at the same level but yeah it's dumb to say that Omega is not luxury...
@@KimiRai-lf3gn 100% Agreed. Rolex and Omega have always been on the same level. Only the Fanboys and Advertisements disagree.
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You live in a different world from the majority of the population if you think Tudor and Omega aren't luxury brands. Most of the population would see a £3000 watch as a huge luxury, particularly given increases in the cost of living.
Omega is certainly a “luxury” brand.
Love your videos, but think that saying Omega isn't a luxury watch (but Rolex is) is a bad take. Rolex makes millions of watches per year, any sense of exclusivity is falsely manufactured by the relationship between the ADs and flippers you say you hate. I'm not knocking Rolex, but rather clarifying that Omega is every bit the watch that Rolex is. The rest is branding. Even then, Omega has long been second (recently third, behind Cartier) in that regard.
If Omega is not luxury, then rolex is also just premium.
Where is the difference between the two?
I think its mainly brand value.
So do you say that only things with a reputable brand name are luxury?
Doesn't make much sense to me.
You complain about watch snobbery and say that Omega is not luxury in the same fucking video??????
Thats pathetic.
Does someone with an AMG GT Black series moan about the fact that you can also buy a little diddy white van that also has a three pointed start on the grill. No! I still want a Speedmaster,....
Well, it is not an Omega because it is not made by Omega. And hold a moonshine gold speedmaster in your hands and than tell me that Omega is not a luxury brand. These watches are fun and they don’t change the value and romanticism around Speedmaster.
I disagree with you on Swatch is not at fault and it is the flippers. I think Swatch has caused these watches to be unattainable and hence the flippers are taking advantage. Had these watches been available online as advertised, we wouldn't be seeing this...
1. Omega is 100% a luxury brand. Tudor is too. You can call them "Entry-Level Luxury" but that's still in the luxury realm. "Luxury" tier watches start at around 1000-2000 USD. Seeing as that's the point at which luxury-caliber specs start becoming standard--hand assembly and finishing, chronometer ratings, precious metals, advanced finishing techniques (such as the laser etching on the Seamaster dial), etc.--that's where the line should be.
2. Blame is not just on the flippers, it's on the retailers and brands who build their purchasing systems so easily exploitable by the flippers. There's a reason why Apple, for example, has been historically so good at warding off flippers, even as their products are so high in demand.
It really is all debatable and it would make for an interesting conversation. With regards to Tudor their own PR team say "tudor isn't luxury, we are a premium brand".
@@BarkandJack interesting, I did not realize that about Tudor's own PR team. That being said...I'm not sure if I agree with them lol. Sure, compared to Rolex they're not, but compared to so much of the rest of the industry, they're definitely in a price bracket often considered that. If it's not price that defines luxury watches, what does? I'd be curious to see a video where you really draw a line in the sand about what qualities explicitly define it to you.
Yeah, but Omega states they are luxury (check the Wiki and their site). Not sure a premium brand can get away with making a $35k all gold Speedmaster. Also they regularly create watches in excess of $100k. January they released the Canopus gold version of the Speedmaster - which is the most expensive at retail steal wealth watch on the market now .... since nothing can distinguish it from others other than the hidden laser engraved case ... very very few PP or AP, et cetera are made in steel. And we all know Tudor is entry level Rolex and designed as such. Omega guaranteed is not in a competition (other than to sell their own watches) with Rolex or anyone else, they are doing their thing ... always have. And in that maybe you are right - they are more a watch technology company than a status brand like Rolex or AP. Their movements are as accurate as Rolex, but never slow, they use Rhodium, which is more expensive and more durable than white gold, they don't advertise, or push exclusivity as much, since they are watches for watch geeks. Hence, the new CK 859 ... which is in my opinion is the sleeper hit of 2022 (sorry sprite). Keep an eye out for vintage prices shooting up. Speedmasters and Seamaster over the next 10 years will have auction prices increasing by a factor of 10-20. An Alaska project just went for $450k and a tropical speedy hit $3.4 million 6 months ago. Things are just getting started .... if you are in the know. Check out the Davidoff interviews by Wei Koh ... there's something going on and the Moonswatch is just the start ...
Tudor isn’t on the same level as Omega….not even close.
@sylenmo
I think the word luxury is subjective. -to me tudor is not but omega could be, not the speedy, smp300 or aqua terra but the higher level pieces they make.
If an Aqua Terra full gold watch with a dial filled with 498 diamonds and a solid caliber at $51K is not luxury or a DeVille rose gold Tourbillon piece at $176K isn't either.... then the concept of Luxury is another thing for you my dear Adrian.
I've gone off these now, I wanted one at the time when it would have been a cool watch to aquire. But I now see it for the low quality product it is, fun yes but obtainable no, and I'm not going out of my way to get hold of one. I will put my money towards something else. With the way things are going probably the gas bill or some petrol... ⛽
As a speedy pro owner, I love these moonswatches. I would have loved to have one of these 10-15 years ago when I could not afford my hesalite speedmaster.
Are we really comparing a REAL Omega Speedmaster to this overpriced plastic? It's not a watered down version, it's a completely different watch. It's a cool looking watch don't get me wrong and to be priced around $200 is okay but anything more than that is an abomination.
Said $380 smh. It was $250, swatch got greedy and raised the price
Nobody is comparing it (although it’s often easy to confuse which is which).
We are just stating the fact that the MoonSwatch is part of Omegas Speedmaster™️ range 😉
Forget whether it’s a Swatch or an Omega. It is regardless of the ceramic content, it’s a piece of plastic and too many people were simply chasing the hype and hoping for the potential to bang it on auction sites and earn some easy cash. Good luck to them. 😂
I mean, the same can be said for Rolex…..it’s a chunk of mass produced steel that has almost zero horological value and yet people wet themselves, pay 5 times retail.
@@Talon173 if you want to pay 5 times retail and support the flippers then that’s absolutely your choice. 🤭
@@Angus57 haha never! Not paid full price for one yet!
@@Talon173 you haven't paid retail for a rolex? A brand new Rolex? I doubt it.
Casioak for me...
WARNING - there are loads of scams around. You will only be contacted by my Instagram account @barkandjack and you will NOT need to send any money. I will pay for shipping.
Do not send money to anyone!
Flippers spoil many brands unfortunately.
I emailed a few on ebay enquiring about the exorbitant prices and I got so many lies as replies (special limited editions, never to be repeated, that sort of stuff) sad bunch of people
Good topic Adrian 👍
I don’t think problem is the flippers , bigger problem is the people are paying over retail for anything they want and they can’t wait to get it from AD and this is what’s happening starting with Rolex and most brands are following it .
Really sad that watch collecting is becoming investment vs passion and hobby
I want that watch btw 🤣
A very fun watch that I personally wouldn’t pay more than £100 for if I’m being totally honest. I see it as a cash grab/cheap exposure on a company in Swatch that’s let’s be fair was closing stores everywhere 4 months ago! Great move for Swatch!!! But I can see through it a bit . Can’t say they aren’t fun though!;)
"I hate how much negativity has been out toward Swatch...It isn't Swatch, it's the flippers...don't get grumpy with Swatch, get grumpy with the people who are flipping them." - Oof, Adrian, normally I'm a fan, but this is way off base. Where to start?
You're right. It isn't the fault of Swatch that flippers are buying watches and keeping them out of the hands of genuine customers, in the same way that PS5s, Air Jordans, and graphics cards end up on eBay and StockX at hefty markups. That's an unfortunate side effect of demand outweighing supply and opportunists seeing a way to make a quick buck. It is what it is.
But to say that Swatch bears no responsibility at all is a level of drinking the Kool aid I didn't think I'd ever see from this channel. If you take a look at other companies with this problem--Sony, Nike, Nvidia, to name just a few--all of them are at least trying to help their customers. Whether that's anti-bot measures, redirecting stock to different retailers, lotteries, line management systems at store restocks...there's a concerted effort being made to retain genuine customers that just isn't happening Swatch.
Now, you could argue that this is all part of some grand marketing/PR plan. But, and this comes from someone that works in that industry, the confused communications (online sales anyone?), continued poor organisation at stores, and a general lack of stock suggests that Swatch wasn't quite prepared for this level of interest. That's perhaps short sighted, but it happens. But it's what Swatch has done since that's infuriated customers, which is to say, absolutely nothing. No systems to try and deal with flippers at stores, no bot prevention to allow online sales, nothing.
That's a poor showing from a large consumer-facing company like Swatch. It has the resources to do better and, if it cares about its customers, it should. Swatch can't stop the flippers and it can't be blamed for them, of course. But it can make life harder for them and easier for its customers.
i love the moonswatch, especially the different colors of it. I originally thought most of the colors were bad but after looking at them for a long time they've all started to grow on me. I personally have a Mission to Pluto and i always forget that it's on my wrist. I love that it's both a tool and a statement. its probably my favorite watch of my collection
I hope they don’t just limit this collaboration to the Moonwatch, this could be just the start of something of bigger cute collabs. They could venture to expanding the concept to the Seamaster Omega x Swatch collab too: there are 31 varieties of the Sea theme for them to think about (e.g., Atlantic, Mediterranean, Red, Baltic, Arabian, South China, Celebes, etc). Another one is Railmaster collab series: the likes of Amtrak, British, Eurostar, Trenitalia, Oriental Express, SBB, etc). Better yet, the Constellation collab series would do great with so many possible variants.
Omega is selling it's brand and Speedmaster design for 260 dollars, Swatch is selling a disposable watch for 260 dollars. Flippers ruin the gray market.
Omega has always been known as a luxury brand . Same with tag heuer. Even seiko are to some people. If your a non watch person , but wanted a watch to tell the time , you would probably just get a casio. Let's face it, if your spending north of 1k on a watch , it would be a luxury brand /watch to most people. With a seiko sla043 costing £4080 new now, are you going to say that's not a luxury watch ? Because it is. I don't often disagree with you , but your wrong saying omega and tudor are entry level luxury. Maybe to a millionaire Adrian. Buy a solid gold tudor and it will cost you more than a rolex sub , so they aren't exactly cheap brands. I love watches but it's not often I see people with omegas on , or Tudors etc , because you have to be into watches to pay 3k plus for a watch for a start !!!
Fair enough to state it is debatable whether OMEGA is a luxury brand, its your opinion. IMO what can be seen as ' luxury' is 'Subjective' but not, 'Objective'. You cant really define what is 'luxury brand' but 'exclusivity' yes ,you can, look how Rolex regulates their supply. BUT you CAN'T simply state the brand is not luxury if it is not exclusive, it's the whole different story. Those who earn low wages or salary can see OMEGA as a luxury brand if they decide to spend 90% of their whole year saving on a Seamaster, but some, just like you, with bunch of 'luxury' Rolex, bla bla can see that OMEGA is not luxury just because you can actually but them at retail at anytime without having your name written on the list. It's your EGO to state OMEGA is not luxury. You've had my respect, a Rolex and Omega fanboy,a Seamaster and Submariner owner, but not anymore. You've made a HUGE mistake. ****UNSUBSCRIBED
200 pounds for a plastic watch with logo - this is a snob definition. ;)
I have nothing against this watch, it's just not my thing to buy a watch and then do not use it because it can be damaged so easily.
You can buy micro or Seiko for this price which gives you more fun and watch for the price.
Wow! Even Omega is not a luxury brand. That is some statement. I like the way you then went on to show a Rolex though, maybe trying to heavily imply that Rolex is and Omega isn't? Subtle. I am sure if Omega cannot be classified as luxury, then neither should Rolex be, because by most important luxury measures, Omega is slightly ahead of Rolex (If both are priced at their msrp): Rolex produces over a million watches per year, Omega 800k, AP and PP below 60k, FPJ and Mosier, much fewer. If you're talking about grand complications, Rolex is not even in the same league as Omega etc...etc there r more reasons but I won't go into them here. I just feel that this is very bias. Also, the flip price of Rolex watches have been falling in the Far East, and funny enough, everytime this happens, Rolex-mouthpieces on TH-cam always makes some subtle videos promoting the brand. I don't mind this, but, dare I say, trodding on other similar brands in order to elevate a worse one is very disingenuous on your part.
Anyway, I think whoever came up with the MoonSwatch idea is a bloody marketing genius, it certainly created a lot of marketing buzz, most of my friends now say they will buy the whole set.
Watch snob makes video about watch snobs with latest, hot watch he couldn’t give a toss about.
Gotta get those clicks.
Random grumpy guy leaving grumpy comment based on grumpy incorrect assumption in a lame attempt to make himself feel better about him grumpiness. I hope you find happiness buddy.
Dude, it’s an overpriced low quality quartz movement plastic case Swatch Omega Speedmaster and piss off availability problem causing them to sell for ridiculous prices to stupid people on the used market. I’m done, it’s crap. Funny how I’m sure you’d have a different opinion if your beloved Rolex brand went into plastic quartz Instagram launches of their watches
First off I like the moonswatch and I own a 3861. Im not a stupid person nor a watch snob. But for you to say and declare that it is "A Speedmaster" and then call those that say it isnt stupid I think is just silly and completely miscategorizng the entire release of the moonswatch. You've done this as a way to add controversy to the already stupid debate. To me this looks like an attempt to legitimize your video as if your opinion matters above the rest. I personally find this pretty shallow. I'm making this comment because it isn't a speedmaster; this is clearly a novelty item and anyone with half a brain can see that. Am I butt hurt because Omega collabed with Swatch to make a $250 plastic watch that looks like a speedy and has had the title speedy slapped on the dial no. Why do I say that because I know what it is lol and it's not "A" Speedmaster. A Speedmaster is A Speedmaster, I can't even believe we've reached the point that I would have to outline this. This is technically a Swatch Moonswatch. Swatch manufacturers the watch and the collab is taking the design of the speedy as a way of celebration to create the novelty of a Speedmaster, this doesnt mean it is A Speedmaster. this really isn't that hard to understand.
MY COMMENT: Your a class act so happy you stayed out of the nonsense that's going on with some so called watch reviewers that are turning out to be cheap scammers and financially challenged. I have not joined your channel yet and am seriously considering it.
BTW- I am not writing this comment for the watch, frankly I have no interest in the watch.
Is luxury and scarcity linked? Are BMW and Mercedes premium or luxury?
Or can brands have premium and a luxury range? Is the gold speed master, premium or luxury?
Would love to see a video to get your thoughts. I am on the fence and would like your thoughts.
Watch idiots…’I won’t waste my money on a $250 toy watch…’
Also watch idiots…
‘I am going to go down to the AD and buy a $3500 Tudor Rolex homage with a modified ETA movement!’
I’m a collector of Omegas. When you spend a fortune on them , then they go and make a cheap version, I think it takes away Prestige from the Brand. Sort of like Ferrari doing a Colab with Nissan. Ferrari owners would rightly be pissed off.
Gotta call BS on the "it's not swatch, it's not Rolex causing the issues".
You know how they could fix it? Sell them online with a numbered queue. Rolex could do the same too. Doesn't even have to be online only. You go into the shop, put a deposit down, and get a number in the queue.
But they both don't, because they want the artificial hype, that they themselves have generated. So they do deserve the hate directed at them.
More people are mad about the lack of availability given you now can't buy online even though they explicitly said as much during release. When a company blatantly lies to you, there are few things they sell that are worth your trust.
Send Uranus to Archieluxury. Tell him it’s to burry the hatchet. That’s where he hides watches when he smuggles.
On a different note, Omega is a little nicer than Tudor. The movements, the case backs, the solid gold rather than the gold capping.
Oisin from the Timeless Watch Channel has been very bad read the posts on the Omega Forum, he’s not returning watches and swearing and cussing at anybody that asks him about it …. TH-camr not returning watches
My thinking is now are they even worth £200? Reviews of how easily the crystal scratches has spooked me. That said, I'd still love that Jupiter one.
I held one and I would say absolutely not.
The bezel is a fucking sticker. I'll pass on this trash.
@@nohandles406 is this true a sticker??? This sounds horrible... I don't think this is for me🤔. Naja hab ich wieder 250,-€ gespart 😁
at 7:32 you can see several scratches on the crystal....I can accept the fact it doesn't have sapphire at that price but it should't scratch that easily.
i think saying flippers were the problem at launch is a little disingenuous, swatch UK had circa 1k watches available across the country.
pretty certain even if we weeded out the flippers, not everyone that wanted one would of got one.
Really used to enjoy your videos but the couple months they have had a really different energy, mostly negative. Now they are pretty unenjoyable and hard to listen to. Sound really self important. Good luck to ya.
if your watch costs more than your mortgage payment its a luxury. Lets not define luxury solely based on what the 1% can afford. There are obviously tiers to this stuff.
‘Luxury’ is highly subjective
Having worn a Lorus from Argos as a kid for £16, a £300 seiko is highly luxurious. As is a moonswatch.
My millionaire cousin used to go through a Rolex a month. A seiko would be trash and a moonswatch a toy.
Watchmakers ultimately make watches to make money. And this quartz collaboration is a great way for Omega to generate interest for themselves and sell watches.
For one I think these are fun and look nice. So why not.
Btw I have a speedmaster professional and I don’t care what people call these, they’re clearly a fun omega watch
There is nothing in the current catalogue that would tempt me to buy an Omega so I am not bothered what it does to the brand (unless it drives down the price of some of their older watches). Its just a quartz watch so in my book it's worth £50 tops but if people buy into the hype and enjoy it good luck to them.
Call me a snob but this is certainly not an Omega Speedmaster. It’s a Swatch. I don’t care what it says on the dial. Illegitimate, sorry 😉
I want you to go down to Edinburgh and tell a guy on the Street that a Brand that sells it's watches for 6k to 7k isn't a luxury brand...
You lost me when you placed Tudor and Omega in the same category! Not to mention calling Omega a premium brand not luxury!
I don’t think we should expect substandard build quality just because it’s $200. For that same amount of money you can get waches from Casio, Seiko and Citizen that would last a lifetime. Heck, for a few $100 more you can get a Bulova Lunar Pilot, an actual moon watch (more or less).
Hay-fever does suck, almost as much as the Moonswatch. Ah well at least you can throw the moonswatch back in the recycle bin it came from and it won't come back again.......unlike damn hay-fever!
The anger towards resellers is ridiculous and i had to buy one by one of them but what other way can i get that watch it's ilogical to get angry at somebody that is selling what you want and cant get in the store
@2:29 can’t see any articles of omega suing swatch for unauthorised use of their brand. Does seem strange as they are owned by same company
Saying Omega is not luxyry is going to piss off the same people who are offented about the moonswatch.😂
Well I love the MoonSwatch but it is a Swatch much more than it is an Omega regardless of what it says on the dial and it is also more a plastic watch than anything else. Not hating on it, just saying...
It’s not just what it says on the dial, it’s the whole case shape and the design of the watch. Of course it’s swatch materials but everything else is omega.
The Jupiter Moonswatch on the Bark+Jack nato is the way forward. However I am quite happy to wait for them to become available again. No rush.
Just because Omega available and not sold out does not mean it is not luxury - similar to Tudor (waiting lists creeping in on some brands). Rolex and Omega I would argue similar level and Rolex make a million watches. Tudor getting there. Only slight issue with the marketing was it becoming like a sneaker drop… fun but annoying for most people trying to get them. Hopefully will be online soon. Great video and debate as always buddy .
Why on earth did Swatch go back on their word about it being available online?
I guarantee it’s either because they can’t produce enough, they thought they would all be bought by bots or they wanna keep it exclusive and hard to get
Because they couldn’t produce enough stock.
As it may be out of customers control to call the moonswatch an omega or a cheap facsimile... I would suggest omega found themselves in a similar position where the swatch group didn't provide omega with much of a choice. Love it or hate it, the moonswatch is here. Bottom line, its a watch to be enjoyed. If someone doesnt like it dont buy it. I would suggest a lot of the haters are more upset at the lack of access to the watch than the watch itself. My two cents ... Cheers 😎
You had such a good take until you said Omega isn't luxury. That's nonsense.
Omega isn’t “luxury” brand because they are available? Cmon….
I have a Speedmaster also and want one of the colorful MoonSwatchs. But definite on a better band
Unfortunately Adrian much as I love social media, your channel etc, this is the cause of the fads which lead to stampede buying and product shortages. Before watch channels most watches were always available. Once watch gurus say Rolex is the watch to get , they become scarce . The same with fuel shortages, tell people that fuel is scarce and it becomes non existence as everyone tries to buy it.
If SM has said the moonswatch was rubbish maybe we could get one. But as lemmings we all follow SM to say we have the “in” product and so flippers cash in and we all loose out.
Only reason I'm pissed off with the company is because they decided not to sell them online after they said they would. Driving hundreds of miles for a chance to get one at a Swatch store
This is the most ridiculous video on this watch I have seen. You contradict yourself constantly. “This is a real Omega”, then “This is a cheap Swatch” a few minutes later. This is NOT an Omega. It’s a swatch with Omega branding. Don’t you see what it says on the caseback? Can you buy one from an Omega AD? Why are you trolling us with this nonsense?
At the start I say “it is an omega, it is a swatch.” It is both.
I am a Rolex fanboy and only own 3 Omegas but calling them "not a luxury brand" must be a joke. How are they any less luxurious than Rolex? Because theyre arent hyped by YT and IG? Average Joe on 25k a year can dream about an Omega so yeah I would call it luxury. Same price bracket too..
I agree, some of these watch TH-camrs talk a lot of shite
Even with the mixed reviews, this is still an amazing part of the watch community history
History indeed on how swatch group greed killed the golden goose
@@salmana4239 Was it not already killed by constant "anniversary" editions and collaborative limited editions?
Yeah....the amazing awful part.
@@BarkandJack, you cannot really fault Omega for piling on limited editions and commemoratives to maintain interest and generate income, but to create a range of watches that would be affordable and desirable to the masses and then to fail to deliver is plain, old-fashioned incompetence.
@@danieldravot341 maybe.
Bad take regarding flippers. Flippers are incentivised to flip because of the artificial scarcity that Swatch has created, not in spite of it.
I don't think this launch has affected Omega all that much (sales of moonwatches have more or less proven that) but I think it would well have affected Swatch's credibility.
Flippers flip for their own greed. The scarcity isn’t artificial, swatch is now running their factory 7 days a week to try and meet demand, rather than the normal 5 days.
Sales of the steel moonwatch have increased massively.
Im never getting a speedmaster because of this. Trash watch.
Well, we disagree on one thing...no, the price does not reflect the quality. I have a Citizen Nighthawk which I paid 200 USD for, some 5 years ago. The quality is light years ahead of this MoonSwatch. At best, this is a 100 dollars worth in terms of build quality...and I'm being very generous.
I absolutely agree. If we remove the design and Omega branding then it’s probably a $50-60 watch. I guess this is the odd part of the watch, timeless design meets throw away product.
@@BarkandJack "Timeless design meets throw away product." Say no more. You have captured the essence of MoonSwatch in that simple statement.
Except you never really say anything negative about people flipping Rolex's, so why the offense here? I also take exception to you comparing Omega to Tudor. Spoken like a true Rolex fanboy.
I’ve called out Rolex flippers plenty of times.
I don't hate it i don't love it, it does nothing for me at all.
If Omega isn't a luxury brand then nor is Rolex. Both brands produce 500k-1M watches a year, neither are hand finished and come at a similar price point. Tudor is a notch below both brands and is not on par with Omega.
Which of the dimenions are the strap size? I am looing to buy a replacement strap and am slightly confused lol. I'm assuming its 20mm?
Yeah it’s 20mm.
I want one, but I'm not paying over retail... And I'm not traveling to London for the chance of them being in stock.
I want one, but I'm putting any effort into it.
LOL - Same.
And it’s really not worth any effort at all. I was lucky enough to stay in a hotel next to a swatch shop and could pop my head in every time I walked passed.
I agree with all of your comments. The Moon Swatch was designed to be "fun". Some people don't know the meaning of that.
I have to say I think Omega is a luxury brand 100%. I take your point about premium brand but I genuinely think Omega’s heritage and expertise and quality of product absolutely qualify them as a luxury brand. They are certainly in the luxury price bracket. If you are talking about a distinction between the upper echelons, Patek, AP I get that… but I think it’s the wrong distinction to say Omega are not a luxury brand, when that is precisely what they are. Possibly some other swatch group brands are premium but Omega is top tier. Just my opinion, and I do respect yours.
Own a Speedmaster Pro from new. Absolutely have no problem with the Moonswatch and will actually get one eventually. I love the concept and democratisation of watches concept. But will not buy from a flipper. Good video.
A watch should be more than marketing hype. Take away the hype, Omega brand equity and what are you left with? A nicely designed but terribly made low quality product that bleeds on your wrist. I think this is what some dislike about the Moonswatch. No one would bother with this abomination if it weren’t for the Omega/Speedmaster logo.
Absolutely. Remove the brand and give it a generic swatch design and you have nothing.
I love how the Saturn looks with the B&J strap! I will be using this combo once the watch is available to me!
This has to be one of the greatest marketing campaigns ever. They will grab more peoples interest into the watch world. This can be their "first" step to have the grail watch. Its a fun watch. The advantage is that Swatch can do this, other brands if they attempt or would like simply can't. The downside for the MoonSwatch its the flippers, they are bad to the watch community, but understand it from a demand and supply point of view.
Keen observations. Many premium brands have made similar moves. It's good for the industry. It creates greater interest not only in the brand but the community itself. Good on Omega!
So over these watches and glad I did not get one. Moving on.
Omega isn't any less luxury than rolex
Another great video man, I’m still waiting to buy mine. However since they won’t be sold online, I’ll have to wait until I or a family member goes to a Swatch store since the nearest one to me is 8hrs away and I’m not making the journey for one. Keep up the great work brother ❤️
'Watch snob' is a word more frequently used by watch snobs themselves.
Yep
I am an owner of the Omega Speedmaster, bought it as my grail watch...love it. Also love MoonSwatch, think it makes these amazing watches slightly more attainable, more enjoyable for the masses. I think it's a brilliant thing.
Adrian could you do the tudor North flag? I think it's time for its resurgence
A cool watch for enthusiasts
Man..... Dont call this plastic shit Omega!!!! This is a plastic toy, not a Omega.
Don’t tell me, tell Omega. They named it.
What strap did you add to the Jupiter? I’d love to get that exact one - color is perfect
Hi David, the strap is our Desert Sand Tubular Nylon in 20mm:
barkandjack.com/products/desert-sand-tubular-nylon
Cheers,
Adrian
I'm no doubt parroting many others here in this comment section and indeed many other reviews about this release but I feel the price is way too steep for what is being offered. I'd love to be able to get my hands on a Pluto edition. Unfortunately I'm 2 and 4hrs away from 2 of the 3 approved retail locations here in Canada and for 327$cad not including 13% tax, I'd rather take that money and buy something else. They do look cool though. Also the flip flop of not selling them online is extremely bad for the consumer.
Pleb is always a great word to use.
Omega is still a luxury brand. Another “influencer” spewing bullshit.
Oh look, another crying omega fanboy.
Was in omega Glasgow the staff member said a young lad came in proud as punch wearing a moonswatch,when they asked the staff member price of cheapest strap that would fit their moonswatch they did an immediate u turn out of the shop as it was dearer than the watch😂
Hey do you have a Patreon? Can’t find you and would love to donate on the regular.
Thanks so much. I don't have Patreon, but I am thinking about turning on the membership feature on here.
If you don´t think omega is at least entry luxury you are delusional.
It’s a luxury brand for me, but if we look at the watch industry, I don’t think it’s luxury. It’s too readily available and too common.
Most people would consider spending £4000-£5000 plus on an Omega, or indeed a Tudor, as a luxury purchase, so I would consider a reality check Adrian. No they are not Rolex, AP and all the other hyper models that demand huge premiums, but many thousands £££s spent on a single item that you wear simply to tell time on a wrist is a big outlay.