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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 พ.ค. 2021
- Part 1 of 2 of my in-depth analysis of Donkey Kong 64 for the Nintendo 64. Part 2 can be found here: • Donkey Kong 64 Review ...
It's finally here. Performing for you. If you know the words, I guess you can watch something else, because you already know what I'm going to say.
Sources:
Nintendo Life: Donkey Kong 64 Devs On Bugs, Boxing And 20 Years Of The DK Rap - Gavin Lane, November 2019 - www.nintendolife.com/news/201...
Romhacking.net: DK64 - Tag Anywhere - www.romhacking.net/hacks/4961/
Thanks go out to the following folks:
- Kit Sovereign ( / kitsovereign ) for helping once again with the music analysis and editing, as well as the alternate Fungi Forest illustrations.
- Thanks to @JasperRLZ for noclip.website, and Jasper, Isotarge ( / isotarge ) and Mittenz (github.com/MittenzHugg) for the DK64 reverse-engineering work that made the noclip footage possible.
- DK64 Commercials uploaded by CyberWorld 9000: • Video
- Hideout Helm transcription/arrangement by Toady musescore.com/toady/hideout-helm (arrangement was modified manually for presentation purposes)
- SiIvagunner (th-cam.com/channels/9ec.html..., for their endless supply of high-quality video game rips.
Twitter: / veegie_
SUPER ULTRA SECRET BONUS for cool people who actually read the description (watch part 2 of the video before you follow this link): • DK64 Review & Analysis... - เกม
The only video to even come close to accurately describing the experience of playing Beaver Bother.
It’s just absolutely awful
Weird seeing Cybershell on a video this small lol not a knock btw just an odd site.
HOLY HELL, IT’S CYBERSHELL
@@nakedsnake468 What about the two gold bananas from racing the stink bug with tiny then with lanky? Those are worse than Beaver Bother.
@@Readmit lol I really didn’t mind them
That Beaver Bother rant was well worth the 4 year wait. Bravo. 👏
I mean, I hate that game too, it pretty much made me decide to NOT 100% DK64 on my channel, and if I ever found it I would just leave immediately, but I didn't think people felt THAT strongly about it! The whole rant made me laugh!
really, beaver bother wouldn't even be in the top 3 hardest if it wasn't for the collision for the hole being completely broken, not letting the beavers in!
I know everyone has pointed it out, but the Beaver Bother monologue was a creative writing masterpiece. So relatable and funny at the same time.
wELLlll dONNnnee!
"Beaver bother is the unholy spawn of Satan" - This sentence made my entire week, thank you.
Never has there ever been a better assessment of 'Beaver Bother' than yours. Well done, sir; this made my whole week! Lol
It's insane to hear how confident you are in your speech compared to the Banjo reviews. Insane glow-up
Aw. Thanks so much! 5 years, new audio equipment, and a bit of extra confidence will have that effect.
After more than 2 decades, Beaver Bother still causes my heart to sink whenever I think about it. Successfully completing it is one of the few life goals I know for sure to be forever unattainable.
God, that music.
Am I allowed to cry at the Beaver Bother bit? You've come so far since laughing at yourself for saying the word "Rare" in a Banjo video. I'm so proud.
You already know video good. But Hell I'll say it, video good!
I'm one of the folks that was waiting and hoping to see this come out some day, and I'm excited to watch! Thanks for your hard work on this and for enduring my messages years ago asking "when is it coming?" haha
Here here here we go
i'm so glad you know about this channel
One of the things that really makes Beaver Bother infuriating is that the beavers (as with most enemies in the game) have an aspect of their coding that specifically prevents them from falling off of ledges. But, that coding has a bug with its location detection, so there are ways that level geometry can converge to allow enemies to fall off of ledges when that's normally impossible.
Beaver Bother is built around this bug You have to actively exploit a bug in the location detection code for the beaver's movements in order to complete the bonus game. The way the bug works means that the beavers can only fall into the central hole when they are moving at a very specific angle and they hit a very specific point on the hole's geometry.
WHY WOULD YOU BUILD A MINIGAME LIKE THIS!?!?!?
Normally don't comment on any videos i watch, but this was such a pleasant surprise in my sub box. I assumed the channel was lost forever, and so happy to be wrong!
Dude the beaver bother description is so amazing 😂😂☠️ spot on thank you hahaha
OMG!! I started to wonder if this would ever come? I’ve been waiting years for this
Once every 6 months or so I look for reviews of games I played as a kid. And now I find your 2 videos that amounts to more than 80 minutes! This Sunday got so much better now!
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe DK64 still has that world record over 20 years after the fact.
Still does.
damn I dunno who this Kit Sovereign dude is but it sounds pretty rad
This is a pretty incredible watch. It's wild to see the lengths you went through to illustrate the various points, and I'm glad I was able to help contribute to that. What an undertaking and a joy to watch.
I've been waiting years for this. I didn't think it was ever going to happen. Glad to see you're finally finishing the series which was the reason I discovered your channel.
That beaver bother rant is legendary.
I can't believe I've waited almost several years for a review of a game I've never even played....
...worth it
same
The music in Angry Aztec takes a few musical motifs directly from Rimsky-Korsakov's symphony "Sheherezade" to good effect I'd say. Just noticed that recently.
"DK64's first impressions suffers heavily without the same level of care seen in the Banjo games"
Honestly, the lack of care and polish might be one of the biggest gripes I have with Donkey Kong 64 as a whole. It has so much personality and fun stuff on one end, but is so lacking and devoid of personality in other respects, but even then that doesn't even begin to cover the amount of weird bugs and hit detection issues the game has. It just lacks that polish I'm used to seeing in Rare games, which makes me wonder just what the development time for this game was (I at least knew this wasn't made by the same team as the Banjo-Kazooie team at Rare, after all, Banjo-Kazooie came out the previous year and Banjo-Tooie came out the year after, it'd be impossible for them to crank out three games year after year like that).
Also, I agree with you regarding "too many collectables", it's not so much the amount of collectables, it's that you have to be a certain Kong to collect certain collectables, which means you need to go back to the Tag Barrel and swap them out constantly whenever you come across anything that requires a certain Kong to either pick up or do anything with.
Other than that, I don't have much to add on top of what you said, I either agree or found your observations fascinating regardless. This was well worth the wait! (you really had me in stitches with that Beaver Bother bit, by the way, not to mention it's all 100% accurate)
Also this is an amazing analysis, incredibly underviewed on and on par with matthewmatosis’ reviews. You deserve way more views and way more subs. I hope you keep making content cause this is amazing
Dude it is so nice to have you back! Very excited to see more content from you in the future.
Thank you so much! I loved the Banjo videos, and I have patiently waited for this one to appear. You make quality content, thanks again!
33:31 when your minigame is so unfun and poorly designed it turns the reviewer into the AVGN for a couple of minutes
YOOOOOO I’ve been waiting for this for years! This is super cool! Thanks for making these!
The 3 best minigames in dk64
1. Shooting Gallery
2. Shooting Gallery
3. Shooting Gallery
You sound like an American Matthewmatosis.
Also this is my favorite look at DK 64 on all of TH-cam :)
The rant leading up and culminating around 36:15 had me in tears!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Amazing as expected, hoping to have enough free time to watch part 2 today too!
No way he's actually back
Bless
hahahaha your rant about the beaver mini game cracked me up! this is awesome great review
I have a question for you. Do you think you're going to analyze any more of the Rare N64 games? Particularly Conker's Bad Fur Day. It doesn't quite fit the mold of the Banjos or DK64, but there's still a lot to analyze in terms of its mechanics, pacing, and even its own almost intentionally (in my opinion) anti-coherent overworld and general level design. I don't know if it's something you want to do, but it does feel perfect for your kind of analysis!
What do you think of Conker's Bad Fur Day?
@@ultrairrelevantnobody1862 I like it, but Veegie has a knack for both dissecting and understanding design decisions that I really appreciate, even on the occasions I disagree.
Good to see you back, love your style
Probably the best analysis of dk64 so far!!
yo, as somebody who's always felt that his keen childhood nostalgia for these games is rarely reflected in critiques, i've watched your Banjo videos many times over. i didn't think we'd get the next installment and i'm so psyched somebody gets the same thrill from Creepy Castle as I do. great work!
Have to say really liked this.
I just like videos of people talking about DK64 in general but this went into great depths
This analysis is super interesting! It points out a lot of things I felt without being able to tell during my playthrough
Really like this review, and I found that flowers and mushrooms idea for Fungi Forest really cute for some reason XD
"and a shooting gallery, and a shooting gallery, and a shooting gallery, and a shooting gallery, and a-"
YES IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS AND I AM NOT DISPPOINTED!!!! well done man!!!! :))
'Donkey Kong 64' is a game I do respect, despite not being one I find fun to play. It wanted to take what 'Banjo Kazooie' achieved and elevate it all tenfold; essentially going for the 'bigger is better' mentality. While most of it doesn't work smoothly in practice, it's an important step in 3D game design. It's been made aware to me for over a year now that this game is often pointed to as 'the downfall of the collectathon platforming genre' which doesn't make sense. Collectathons still continued to exist and do well in the early to mid 2000s, and they're a sub-genre that happened to pop up frequently in action-platformers. 'Donkey Kong 64' is just a severe victim of 'Early 3D Jank' at the end of the day; nobody really knew how to exactly make this work, so many blueprints were invented and tweaked and ideas were constantly thrown at a wall. The good parts stayed, but they wouldn't have had it not been for all the trial and error.
Overall, not a good game, but not one that's without merit. If I want to play a good collectathon game these days, I always go for 'Super Mario 64', 'Spyro: Year of the Dragon', and 'Toy Story 2: Buzz Lightyear To The Rescue'.
This was a fantastic video and deserved a lot more views! Excellent work this made my Sunday a whole lot better.
I keep my eyes blind to the facts that are DK64’s flaws because of my childhood nostalgia for it haha
Holy shit...
The KING has returned!
I JUST REWATCHED THE OTHER VIDEOS IN THE SERIES!! WHAT A PLEASANT SURPRISE!!!
You make so many good points!! Thank you for this video.
When you reached the moment you were about to talk about that minigame, I was on the edge of my seat, knowing far too well what you were about to bash: BEAVER BOTHER! BEAVER BOTHER! You did not disappoint.
Amazing I am very excited to watch this!
The legend is back
Just recently replayed to 101 percent this game and this video made me like and subscribe. Great content
That beaver rant was hilarious 🤣 DK64 was my favorite game ever for a long time, but i can appreciate the criticism much more as i grow older. Very thoughtful video. You got a lot of talent
The information density is just perfect. Never played this game but I feel like I know it inside and out
When I heard _Yooka-Laylee_ had "minecart sections," I was very disappointed to find they didn't mean _DK64-style._
I agree; the music in Frantic Factory is truly amazing!
No way, is this real? You made my MONTH dude!
Having a bus fight in the beginning of the game would actually be really good. It’ll make it even more better. They don’t have a dark misty feeling but you know when you see the boss you have to face it. You have all your moves unlocked by there anyways except for the cranky move, you still have to earn that.
About the beginning area... there's more, boys and girls: if you skip the area with glitches, then guess what? You can't swim, use oranges, throw barrels, or climb. In other words, that makes the tutorial even more mandatory! Isn't that just _swell?_
Your description of beaver bother is poetry
The beaver bother portion is art in video form
I lost my shit at your wonderfully insane vocabulary and phrasing flex freakout re: Beaver Bother. Kudos sir you have made my day. Bravo
whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat i was literally sat watching your Banjo Tooie video yesterday and thinking about how this video will never come out lmao
I know its a lot of nostalgia but for me this game is perfect. I just love the vibe and the world and everythig
The Enguarde underwater sections in this game pretty much anticipated Maneater.
This beaver bother rant is on point! 🤣
I have been waiting years for Veegie to make this review. Please also do Conker's Bad Fur Day when you get a chance. I can't wait to see this.
Ive been subscribed for years just for this video, nearly died laughing about beaver bother lmao
So it's finally here!
The main positive about this game for me is it gave me an expansion pack, which I needed for better games.
The game itself is a slog and a chore and I still bear resentment that I couldn’t 101% cause I had a PAL version and the mechanical fish is impossible without lag reduction which of course didnt occur to me and was not understood on the internet at the time, you were simply told ‘works for me, try harder’
Omg i can’t believe you’re back
There's one point that you forgot to mention on Gloomy Gaeon that saves the level imo. And that is the fact that unlike other n64 3D plats, you have no breath meter. This makes swimming a much more relaxed experience and lets you take things at a slower pace which fits Gloomy Galleon well.
Still hate that mechanical fish though.
33:30 Everything about this oh my gosh yes!!
"With these relatively uncomplicated changes"=melts the N64's internals.
Sorry, who are you? [checks videos] Oh, the Rare reviewer! Welcome back!
30:21 Subtitles. You don't say it, but I see you. 👀
I screamed when I saw this was uploaded
Only just looked up and watched the older vids and I didn't realize you had a big hiatus
I'm not sure how the backtracking in this game (seeing an obstacle that can't be overcome with a particular Kong at that time) is any different from backtracking in any other game such as Metroid or Zelda, or (to go back to the Mario games you referenced) realizing you can't reach something unless you backtrack and find a powerup such as a flying cape.
In the case of Zelda and Metroid, the former is an adventure game that sees the player go on a laborious journey, and the latter is all about non-linear exploration. I haven't played Zelda to a significant degree, but I have played enough Metroid to know how satisfying it feels to grow stronger, breeze through initially hard levels, and be able to uncover more that wasn't possible before.
Donkey Kong 64 is an action-platformer that is attached to the collectathon sub-genre; these types of games don't usually benefit much from backtracking as they're designed to be less methodical and more like you're eating fast food. That, and I've played enough of the game to know that the multiple playable characters and unlockable moves come off as arbitrary keys rather than genuinely broadening the moveset for more intuitive and fun traversal. As for the caps in Super Mario 64, they do act the same, but there's only three of them and very few stars are locked behind them, so they pass off more as brief mechanical challenges. That, and having to come back to a level doesn't matter nearly as much as the fact the game kicks you out of a level after grabbing a star that isn't secret for a 100-Coin one.
He did it. Mad lad actually did it!
very entertaining!
I feel like I’m listening to the kid from Zombieland. “Remember to enjoy the little things.”
You gotta talk about Conker's Bad Fur Day
30:23 Anyone else noticed? lol
Anyways I subbed! For content and that piece of info alone lol
Bro.... You ok bro? I feel like Beaver Bother may have broke you in every capacity lol
Nice video. Constructive criticism: The volume of your voice is way too high compared to your video evidence. Or more accurately, the videos are way to low in volume.
Otherwise, nice job! 😊
The Beaver Bother section was relatable and hillarious
20:18 I laught way more than I should have at this little roast:)
Holy cow, it really happened!
Can you please do Conker's Bad Fur Day next? We've all been waiting years for you to do that game.
YES LET'S GOOOOOOOOO
LET'S GOOOOO
WELCOME TO BONUS STAGE
I don't care how many collectibles there are. I never got 101% as a kid and im about to do it 23 years later
OH BANANA
W E L C O M E T O B O N U S S T A G E
33:31 is where I think he say talking into his Mic and you can slowly see his eyes turn red. All the while the men in the white coats come and wrap him in his happy jacket bc he's actually talking to the wall bc DK 64 and stolen his sanity. He think he's still home playin DK 64 when he's been in his happy little room for years upon years hearing the happy music play over and over and over and over and over. Mr. Beegie time to take your medicine.... Mr. Veegie....
Yep, that is Beaver Bother.
Masterfully said. The epitome of quality over quantity
I've been playing it for a week or so,and reached Hideout Helm with 160 bananas. I just have a justified hatred for Crystal Caves( Fall=SYKE, GO SWIM BUDDY) but Creepy Castle was way funnier when I was a child but, besides those two, the whole game is AWESOME
Dude, make a video called "Beaver Bother" with only that clip, it's pure gold 😂😂😂 I love Stealthy Snoop though, it's my favorite
Donkey Kong is hated by people who resent the fact they dont have as much time to play it as they did as children.
the beaver bother rant made me want to click the like button, but the video is currently at 420 likes so i will comment instead. well done