Cut one side of the peg and swap out and it should probably be back to normal when it cools down or maybe you could glue the peg back on the arm I guess
I've done a pinless swap before. I cut the pin off towards the inside of the figure. Once you've got your swap done and put back together is the hard part. I eyed up about where the pin was. Ran a 1/32 drill bit into it. Slid a small pin with a drop of super glue into it. A dab of paint on the pin to blend it and it's done.
I suspected that they were just making these as how they make the hands, casted on the actual joint. That's the same here, they first make the double joint and cast the arm or leg piece on top of it
I'm pretty sure that they used a plastic cement that joins the pegs to the figure by melting the plastic that the plastic cement toches and then it fuses them together. And for the loose joints use Pledge Future floor polish, it will stiffen the joints.
So can you disassemble a figure like the old way for paint prep? Like will the elbow and knee come out to disconnect from the bicep and forearm and calf and thigh??
They do it at different pressures and heat. That's why when one of those is off you get a fused joint. That's more complicated and expensive for no reason at all. But its the same deal as the necks, feet and hands. Just different engineering.
Thanks for the heads up. That sucks. But it’s good to know. Do you know if there is a way to pop out movie Cable or Winter Soldier’s arm without cracking them open?
I've had to replace broken poly joints on 4" GI Joe figures and Marauder Inc. figures that were pinless. It's a pain but it is possible. Basically you have to cut the pin and hopefully have it stretched enough of a nub left on each side that it can catch on both sides of the joint. It would be nice if they at least weren't pinned all the way through to begin with though. I don't even know how they manufacture them.
That's wild how they're connected, can't figure out how they mold it that way without it sticking together.Is the center piece of the joint that the pins connect to a different kind of plastic?
Good shit. I've wondering what the pins look like in this "pinless" tech. I think u gotta pull it apart. One side of the peg has to be plugged in or glued through the arm.
I'm late to the party - trying this with the new Red Skull/Dormmamu buck. No clue how the factory puts these together. I tugged on one of the knees after boiling and its a little loose now. They use PVC for these as opposed to ABS. I can work around it, but its still really bugging me that I have no idea how they mass produce these lol
I think someone in Fodderbox fb made a post wit the new Kang showing the break in the loop🧐 And to get it tight again dunk it in boiling water for a 60 seconds and jus let it cool for bout 5 minutes and you can also lightly clamp them where the pegs would be Clamp them to hard and you'll leave dents in the plastic🤓
yea to do my MOTU masterverse customs i pretty much had to flex the flap of arm after heating it up then cut the pin into pin numbs so cutting the pin in half with my exacto knife as fiddly as that is, but once cooled the flaps of arm or knee or ankle are pretty stiff / Solid to keep the flaps from moving apart so no need to really glue, but yea its baffling how they are doing it, its like in 3D printing but having moving joints printed with a meltable flillerment that melts away to leave a joint mechanism. well how they do that in the injection molding process is nothing short of witch craft.... unless they are using a super solvent glue that welds the pin in place?? but even that considering the space to work with is a huge stretch.
They do realize by not allowing us to use a painless or pinned joint to work other figures that we wont be buying extras reducing their sales by a 1/3 if not more. People by extras to kit bash or convert.. not anymore
I’m sure it’s a possibility but that’s not enough to stop a customizer, most people already cut one side and heat it up and slide it off. It’s not the hugest deal really people will still buy em especially in clearance
Thanks for the video. Hasbro is a bunch of haters. Why would they take the fun out of customizing figures, Why? I usually buy marvel legend figures I would not, just to customize figures I want.
They're basically making them so customizing will be a bitch. So basically you'll ruin the figure. So now it's like whomever is stuck with their ok and trash offerings.
if you watch the video, I pull on the arm and there's no break in the loop, and the arm was heated up and still didn't budge, trust me I thought the same thing
@@KitbashCustoms is the plastic stiff when cold like the old one's if so you warm it up, cut one side of the peg to do the swap and when it cools it should be pretty stiff to hold it
they suck i got a pin less one and borked just ot possed in my living room i hate this hasbro pin less action figures. and to fix them is a pain in the ass
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Yes I know how to tighten joints lol I made a video on the exact subject
The way you pulled on joints made me feel good about the durability.
This is going to make customizing a lot harder going forward. Nice looking for the aesthetics though.
Nah it’ll be the same process, this doesn’t change a thing honestly
Cut one side of the peg and swap out and it should probably be back to normal when it cools down or maybe you could glue the peg back on the arm I guess
@@KitbashCustoms Bro what? 4 Years later and yes it does. basically gotta destroy the peg inside to get it off.
I've done a pinless swap before. I cut the pin off towards the inside of the figure. Once you've got your swap done and put back together is the hard part. I eyed up about where the pin was. Ran a 1/32 drill bit into it. Slid a small pin with a drop of super glue into it. A dab of paint on the pin to blend it and it's done.
that's great, the video is more for people who haven't done it or were curios about it.
I suspected that they were just making these as how they make the hands, casted on the actual joint.
That's the same here, they first make the double joint and cast the arm or leg piece on top of it
I'm pretty sure that they used a plastic cement that joins the pegs to the figure by melting the plastic that the plastic cement toches and then it fuses them together. And for the loose joints use Pledge Future floor polish, it will stiffen the joints.
That trick doesn’t really work for disk joints it’s better for ball joints
Thanks for the peak!! Floor polish is a great method for tightening joints.
It is but not disk joints, floor polish is better for closer joints like ball joints In my experience
@KitbashCustoms would it help my upper torso joint on my new 2pack Punisher? His upper torso is really wobbly
How would you fix a loose knee on one of these? I got one of those tmnt x mmpr Lightning figures with a loose knee
So can you disassemble a figure like the old way for paint prep? Like will the elbow and knee come out to disconnect from the bicep and forearm and calf and thigh??
Could they be 3-D printing these pin-less arms and legs?
They do it at different pressures and heat. That's why when one of those is off you get a fused joint. That's more complicated and expensive for no reason at all. But its the same deal as the necks, feet and hands. Just different engineering.
How do you prep those for paint?
Thanks for the heads up. That sucks. But it’s good to know. Do you know if there is a way to pop out movie Cable or Winter Soldier’s arm without cracking them open?
Only way to crack em open but let me check
What about u cut the joints to two piece and then glued it ?
I've had to replace broken poly joints on 4" GI Joe figures and Marauder Inc. figures that were pinless. It's a pain but it is possible. Basically you have to cut the pin and hopefully have it stretched enough of a nub left on each side that it can catch on both sides of the joint. It would be nice if they at least weren't pinned all the way through to begin with though. I don't even know how they manufacture them.
That's wild how they're connected, can't figure out how they mold it that way without it sticking together.Is the center piece of the joint that the pins connect to a different kind of plastic?
very wild, and i cant fathom how its done either
Good shit. I've wondering what the pins look like in this "pinless" tech.
I think u gotta pull it apart. One side of the peg has to be plugged in or glued through the arm.
oh trust me i was pulling lol its fused idk how but it is
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That's....so weird lol. If u figure out a way, you gonna stream it tonight?
I have a deadpool from the two pack that is super loose do you have any recommendations on how to fix it
I'm late to the party - trying this with the new Red Skull/Dormmamu buck. No clue how the factory puts these together. I tugged on one of the knees after boiling and its a little loose now. They use PVC for these as opposed to ABS. I can work around it, but its still really bugging me that I have no idea how they mass produce these lol
It’s a mystery to us all atm lol it’s hasbro sorcery
Only thing I can think to do is cut the inner pegs out, drill holes, and use older pins or custom rods.
shouldnt have to do all that tho id imagine it still work with one side cut loose this pplastic is pretty tough
@@KitbashCustoms I'd prefer that.
thats very interesting, thanks for showing it
Very useful to know. I've been wondering about this.
I think someone in Fodderbox fb made a post wit the new Kang showing the break in the loop🧐
And to get it tight again dunk it in boiling water for a 60 seconds and jus let it cool for bout 5 minutes and you can also lightly clamp them where the pegs would be
Clamp them to hard and you'll leave dents in the plastic🤓
yea to do my MOTU masterverse customs i pretty much had to flex the flap of arm after heating it up then cut the pin into pin numbs so cutting the pin in half with my exacto knife as fiddly as that is, but once cooled the flaps of arm or knee or ankle are pretty stiff / Solid to keep the flaps from moving apart so no need to really glue, but yea its baffling how they are doing it, its like in 3D printing but having moving joints printed with a meltable flillerment that melts away to leave a joint mechanism. well how they do that in the injection molding process is nothing short of witch craft.... unless they are using a super solvent glue that welds the pin in place?? but even that considering the space to work with is a huge stretch.
Your marauder axe looks nice.
Bro think on how you will disassemble the whole shoulder . Thats gonna be crazy too
They makin it harder to disassemble without damaging the buck
Question is how to tighten them up 😭
Keep the vids coming.
It's sonic welded. Never ever heard of nubs.
They do realize by not allowing us to use a painless or pinned joint to work other figures that we wont be buying extras reducing their sales by a 1/3 if not more. People by extras to kit bash or convert.. not anymore
I’m sure it’s a possibility but that’s not enough to stop a customizer, most people already cut one side and heat it up and slide it off. It’s not the hugest deal really people will still buy em especially in clearance
Thanks for the video. Hasbro is a bunch of haters. Why would they take the fun out of customizing figures, Why? I usually buy marvel legend figures I would not, just to customize figures I want.
Yeah everybody wanted pinless tech soo bad, but now we have it and Hasbro did it on purpose so that we can no longer kitbash or custom... Smh
They're basically making them so customizing will be a bitch. So basically you'll ruin the figure. So now it's like whomever is stuck with their ok and trash offerings.
Lol it can be done tho trust me, but it def feels like a shot at customizers
The break is in the loop🤔
if you watch the video, I pull on the arm and there's no break in the loop, and the arm was heated up and still didn't budge, trust me I thought the same thing
@@KitbashCustoms so they're using different techniques for different figures😶
@@N2mesnob I have no idea, the figures I used don’t have a break in the sculpt at all, I can only speak on what I’ve tried so far
@@KitbashCustoms is the plastic stiff when cold like the old one's if so you warm it up, cut one side of the peg to do the swap and when it cools it should be pretty stiff to hold it
@@N2mesnob pretty much how it’s gonna have to happen now
I think this will make doing customs easier. If you cut the middle it could pry apart easier than trying to push the pins in and out.
they suck i got a pin less one and borked just ot possed in my living room i hate this hasbro pin less action figures. and to fix them is a pain in the ass
Look at your thumb nail.the ➰ has a slit
It doesn’t tho I legit heated this up and pulled
I work for hasbro they dont u guys to kit bash no more
Trust me, we still will
@Comicbookfan2345 yes