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- Learn whats aspects you have to look into if you want to select a great Sanke. We take the best picks out of 20 Tosai Sanke of the Izumiya Koi Farm. In this (super long!) video we will select all the Sanke one by one and explain you all the details that we take into account.
These aspects and characteristics you can easily use by yourself to find the best Sanke in your local Koi Store.
Do you have any questions regarding the selection of Sanke? Then feel free to ask it in the comments. We do our best to help you out with any questions!
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Thank you for watching and see you in the next episode!
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At the end of the video, we will show you the best picks. Which one is your favorite Kohaku? Leave a comment!
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Thank you for really taking your time with each fish to show us what it is you are selecting for.
My pleasure! Thank you for the compliment
I like all the details! Thanks!! I agree with your fav!
Thank you for the compliment!
The top 3 are all keeper for me out of the 21 fish. Thanks its very informative!
It are 21 fish indeed 😉. I guess something went wrong with counting. Glad to hear it is informative for you!
Whilst I agree with your top 3 picks, I must say that I prefer smaller areas of sumi. For me, larger areas of sumi are more attractive on Showa :) As for the length of the video, it's only because of how many fish that had to be analyzed. But the content was all informative and relevant :)
I have to agree with you that I'm personally also more a fan of smaller sumi placements. Thanks for your feedback on the length of the video! I'll try to make it a little bit shorter next time 😉👍
I thought this video was excellent in length and details. I would love to see a detailed video on showa. Look forward to more.
Thank you! I'm happy to hear that. I'll try to do a Tosai Showa selection video or a best out of 20 or 30 Showa later on. In the meantime you can perhaps this video, where I explain the Showa in full detail: th-cam.com/video/yu2KdtcgO8k/w-d-xo.html
Great information on selection of Koi just right amount of time.
Thank you, that is a nice compliment!
Lots if info. Thanks mate
No problem 👍 I hope you learned something new from it!
This is what I'm looking for as I would start to farm Koi fish in Blitar, Indonesia. About three years ago I have a Koi shop in Jakarta, in addition to my other SMEs. But, all of my businesses collapsed because of Covid-19. That's why I would focus on Koi business. Thank you for your detailed explanation, I love it. And of course, I subscribed your channel.
Thank you sir, I really wish you the best of luck & success with your Koi business! Glad I am able to provide you information that you can make use of
A great vid.
Some real beauties there.
Thank you! Glad to hear
Really nice video and I like #3 it has some potential 👍👍
Thank you! I'm happy to hear you enjoyed the video. And a nice taste you have as well 😉
love your selection videos... the more you talk about each one the more I learn... I think you've it "just right" in terms of length/detail, although I do watch your videos on 1.75x speed :)
I'm happy to hear you enjoy the content! That are the nice features of TH-cam, right? Just speed up when possible! Great to hear you watch them and take the time to give some feedback. Thanks! 👍
Thanks for your reply very helpful cheers
You are most welcome! Enjoy some Koi 👍
2 - 3 -1 would be my choice, 2 Would be my winner, I like the head pattern, also it’s body posture, large head and mouth would suggest possibly a larger fish eventually. All 3 are nice fish, but are going to change so much over the next few years. Another interesting and informative video, I prefer the usual length video, as I find it easier to fit them into my day. The longer videos sometimes I have to watch in 2 or 3 parts. Stay safe and well.
We seem to have the same taste for multiple varieties. Most likely I would also go for 2 - 3 - 1. The reason for 3 as my second choice is that I like the 'playful' pattern more then the more classic Sanke (Sanke 1).
All three sanke have a lot of sumi visible, also still some sumi visible under the skin that will develop in the upcoming years. I wonder how these will look in a few years time.
Thank you for the feedback as well. I will try to make this type of video a bit shorter next time. Stay safe and thank you for your comment.
Weer top mannen👍 weer wat bij geleerd
Dank! Leuk om te lezen. Heb je een favoriet uit de top 3?
Ooh please longer vids. More details!!
Good suggestion! Will work on that for sure!
Perfect as always ❤ how old these koi,no 01 is my favourite
Hi there, thanks for your comment. These Koi are Tosai. And a nice choice ;)
Ik ben toch wel benieuwd wie jij bent. Kan verder weinig info vinden over het kanaal en jou. Moet wel zeggen dat je video’s erg goed zijn. Gr. Jeroen
Stop before you continue watching.
At the beginning pick your top three. Then see how you make out. This is going to be fun.
Thatis a good idea! Sounds like good inspiration for one of the new video's!
Nummer one for me. Love the old style sanke. Hope the sumi isnt gonna develop to heavy. I like the more small but inky black spots. Like pencel paint spots.
I have to say a lot of them do have heavier sumi placement. I randomly used a set of 20 Sanke. Just average quality, nothing special. I think the three last ones will have some potential. Perhaps even nice for a growing project, just to see what will happen. Nice pick on the classical old style Sanke!
Its all wow👍
All wow! Thanks for the compliment!
Hey Pal another great posting, the length is good for me and wouldn't mind having much more details and debate! I like the selection no 1 where it has cleaner and balance red patterns, that's my choice but fish no 2 seems like going to be a big fish due to its body structure. Cheers mate!
Hello there, thank you for sharing! Nice to hear that you actually enjoyed and liked this format as well. Thanks for sharing your opinions, take care and see you in the next video!
@@Aboutkoi you definitely have us hooked up to your channel mate! see you next time.
So nice to hear! Thanks a lot. Glad we have a common passion ;)
@@Aboutkoi You are most welcome my friend! Our channel is only new & hope you like some of our videos too, we've most recently posted a video of our Sanke breeding during this Spring season in Australia. Hope to catch you next video soon. Cheers! Happy Pond
Nice picks.. Again thanks for sharing
Thank you, which one is your favorite pick?
@@Aboutkoi
It came on at 28 min . you numbered it number 1. I think the white will be clean and clear. The sumi is strong but well patterned and confined. The hi is brilliant. .
The body shape is perfect.
I am no expert but I know what I like
@@Aboutkoi
Your pick?
Yes the one I numbered as 1 is really a nice one. It is in my top three as well. It has a more classical Sanke pattern. As my first pick I would go for the number 2 I mentioned, which I'm showing at 30:42. I like the little bit more playful pattern. Also the skin quality and intensity of red is shiny, soft and nicely looking.
@@Aboutkoi
You can't really lose with any of them.. They are all great and would be proud to have them in my collection
good day sir. I love sanke's and showa.. does it have to be blue eyed in order to be classified as high quality? . thanks
Hello good day, we have the same taste I guess. And no, it doesn't need to have blue eyes to be classified high quality. I personally like it a lot though.
Number 3 i felt in love lol
👍👍 Nice choice ya!
l love nishikigoi kohaku,sanke,showa.
I fully agree. Go-sanke are some of the most beautiful varietirs
thanks for the explanation. I have some ideas to make it better. First not all of the bowl is seen, there is some shadow, second it should be easier if you show the best and the worst together, the length of the videos is ok, thanks for your work
Thank you for the feedback and inspiration tot future video's. Good Idea to also discuss the worst & best Koi in the bowl. Will give some new insights as well for viewers. Thanks for your help and have a nice day!
Good video ❤️. Can u do a showa video also like this.
Thanks! Happy to hear this. Good idea, I'll surely try to do a video later on that covers the selection of a set of small Showa. Perhaps in the meanwhile you can watch this video, which explains the Showa in more detail: th-cam.com/video/yu2KdtcgO8k/w-d-xo.html
Hi I have at least 12 tosi in my pond with 4 large niasi arriving in late February after the quarantine my question is what food and size should I be feeding them all making sure the smaller guys are getting food
I would suggest to mix a bit of smaller pellet together with medium size. So S about 3,5mm and M around 5mm. Or are it really small Tosai, even way smaller then presented in this video?
Koi ❤️❤️
Yes! So great, right?
Tejime for the pectoral Fins, but how its named when you have the stripes in the tail?
I believe there aren't really used or common names for this characteristic. Some even call it Tejime in the tail. I would just call it sumi/black in the tail.
Awesome video as always.
Unfortunately I would probably say no to all of them, simply because they do not have the correct balance for my liking.
One, I prefer less Shumi on a Sanke and, if I wanted more Shumi then I would go for a Showa.
Second, I like it when there is a step somewhere between the head and the middle part of the Fish.
Third, I like the Trio to be around the Shoulder area.
Color intensity is a definite yes, but if all of the above is not there, then I would not commit to buying it.
The First One of the very last Three, I would probably buy, just because it is still a nice looking Fish, but it will never be a Champion, nor a Runner-up.
Stay safe Sir and take care.
Video got the #74th 👍 up. 😊
Hi! Thank you and glad you enjoyed the video.
Ah, I understand your choice for sure. I'm myself also a fan of less sumi and smaller sumi spots on a Sanke. These Izumiya Sanke all have more heavier sumi placement, lots of sumi visible. I have to say I just used a random set of average quality Izumiya Sanke, not really something special (also price wise 😉). Just to show what aspects I look for during the selection of a Sanke.
Always use your own opinion when you buy a Koi, in the end you have to like it in your pond. That is most important for sure :). And go a little bit for your instinct as well.
Thanks for your comment! Take care and enjoy your hobby.
@@Aboutkoi I understand why you selected a more standard Sanke and, quite right.
You are very knowledgeable and you know your Koi very much.
Your channel is amazing.
That's true, I agree with you, each individual needs to like the Sanke they select.
I think Tancho Sanke are incredible if the Circle is almost perfect and the pattern and Sumi is right as well as the color intensity.
Have a nice evening Sir.
Many compliments! Thank you a lot.
Tancho Sanke can be stunning. Personally I can would enjoy a nice Maruten Sanke even more. But I like Sanke in any form 😉
@@Aboutkoi I respect that. 😊
I admit, I never even thought about the Maruten Sanke. The Maruten Sanke is an Amazing looking species.
For sure :)!
Question on the first pick, is it a sanke or showa? .it has a sumi in the lips of fish.
Sumi on the lips is indeed a characteristic of a Showa. Showa and Sanke always bring a lot of debate, which is of course nice as well. Many Sanke will have some 'Showa' characteristics. The other way around, there will also be a lot of Showa that have Sanke characteristics. But still the difference can quite clearly be seen when you know which aspects you have to check. When you look at the sumi patches on this Koi, they are quite small and look like small dots, which is typical for Sanke. Also the sumi placement is on the locations where it should be for Sanke (mainly body, not on the head). It doesn't have black that is going below the lateral line, while on Showa you can often spot this. On the fins you can spot the typical black stripes (Tejime) which you can spot on Sanke as well.
When you want to see some more detailed overview of the difference between Sanke and Showa, you might want to look at this video: th-cam.com/video/nLtix-0pz3E/w-d-xo.html
For tosai most of them have too much sumi. And sumi is too finished for koi that is under one year old. That being said, your videos are simply unmissable😊. You are well on your way to becoming a koi guru😁
I have to agree these Sanke all have heavy sumi placement. Which I also personally do not prefer. But it doesn't matter I think to explain on what aspects and characteristics a Sanke should be selected. So yes: preferable smaller sumi placements, lighter placement (under the skin) with some indications it is strong and will develop in the upcoming years. Thanks for your compliment and feedback!
put inside a acrylic display for us to see it better filled with water of course itll stay still also.
That is a good idea for future video's! However judging from the sides instead of from top view is not really possible if you ask me
Is it normal for Sanke to look silver or metallic when they are young instead of white color ?
Some of these look more like showa... but they are all beautiful
Some have heavy sumi placement indeed. It are all Sanke though 😉. You can watch this video where I explain in more detail what the difference is between Sanke and Showa! th-cam.com/video/nLtix-0pz3E/w-d-xo.html
Would I be correct to say that all three of your final pics really have to much sumi developing?
Yes you are right. I tried tot explain that indeed many of these are a little bit too dark/too much sumi visible
@@Aboutkoi Good! I'm learn'n!!! Thanks so much for your vids! You're doing an awesome job!!!
How can you tell if the color is fading verses coming through? The black under the skin, you said is sumi coming up. But when it's the orange color thats lighter, you said its fading. How do you know its not orange developing? So yeah, im confused with developing color and fading color. Also, what happens if you pick one with intense sumi? You kept saying too dark but why is it too dark a bad thing? Ty
The reason for that is quite simple. Black will develop over time, so it is fine if you get the Koi with underdeveloped/very light sumi(black). That's also the reason why I prefer to not select a Sanke that is too dark already: it will only get more dark area's/sumi over time.
But, orange will not develop itself. So it needs to be in place. It can become a bit darker and heavier. But when it is fading away, it will never turn around to become more intense again.
@@Aboutkoi ty for the info!!! It'll definitely help when i get my next koi!!!!
@@high_fructose_corn_syrup Great!!
@@Aboutkoi i have a question.. i have a gin rin ki matsuba butterfly koi. It's head was a beautiful solid yellow and now its turning white. Its not pox or fungus, definitely very healthy with very healthy skin. I dont know if its the heat or genetics, but is there a way to stop the color loss or bring it back? Ive read this happens a lot but was hoping it wouldnt happen to mine.. its about 6-7 inches and growing fast. We've had her/him since last fall, over wintered inside, color stayed fine. Back outside now and the color loss is happening very fast. Help!
they all look a bit heavy on the sumi ,when would they be classed as a showa
I agree with your view on heavy sumi. Hallmarks of showa would be sumi on the head/face, motoguro on pectorals. Inspite of this some koi will always be the subject of debate😆
Hi there. It is true many of these Sanke have heavier sumi placement. It surely are Sanke though. Showa would have a different 'type' of sumi. Showa have larger patches of sumi. Also sumi below the lateral line, on the head, inside the mouth for example. The fins would have larger sumi placement as well, on Sanke these are just small stripes.
I uploaded a video before which explains the difference between Sanke and Showa in more detail, maybe it is nice for you to have a look: th-cam.com/video/nLtix-0pz3E/w-d-xo.html
You are correct, perhaps it is nice to watch this video th-cam.com/video/nLtix-0pz3E/w-d-xo.html. It explains the difference between Sanke and Showa in more detail
1 3 2 but none really great… if you still have some of your picks would be interesting to see them today and compare
maybe it is allthough possible to make a foto of the three together to see them without moving
Good idea to do that for future video's, thanks!
Hello May I have a question! What breeder variety parents to produce this sanke baby is it ?
Most probably Sanke with Sanke male & female, or Kohaku and Sanke combined
@@Aboutkoi thank you
Most welcome! Are you going to try to breed by yourself?
@@Aboutkoi some one I hear said kin ki utshuri ( F ) and kohaku ( m ) we will got all kinds of baby Showa
Hmm interesting!
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Nice! Can you explain you?
Ok but like can we buy koi from you in the US
Hi there, unfortunately no. We are not selling any koi ourselves. I know there are some nice Koi shops though in the US!
Eigenkweek ?
But how to select healthy ones first
How do you mean the healthy ones? At this size most of them are quite fit 👍
Do you sell the koi and where can we buy it
Do you sell those sanke or could you buy them for me?
Hi there, I'm sorry we don't sell any Koi. We make video's & share knowledge. Plus we visit some koi stores to make some of our videos as well
@@Aboutkoi where did you get these koi from these particular sanke?
Mas Tio aku gelak sampeyan
If I`m not wrong, majority of the fishes here are Showa but not sanke
It are Sanke. When a Sanke does have a lot of Sumi, it does not mean that it becomes a Showa. Sanke are born as Sanke, Showa are born as Showa 😉. Also watch this video: th-cam.com/video/nLtix-0pz3E/w-d-xo.html
It was 2 then 3 and 1
Thanks for sharing!
How old are these sankes anyway?
These are in their first year
@@Aboutkoi thanks alot for the reply, appreciate it.
Thank you for your comments!
Gasp! I liked one you didn’t pick!!! Lol
Ai! Haha, still you can of course pick one you prefer by yourself :)
It's good but I think a little too long. A few fish not chosen have similar reasons why you didnt choose them...
That's true! Thanks for your feedback. I will take it into account for sure
why i have to accept some ones standard for what is beautiful. i dont like most of them, and i know that standards are from breeders to keep prices up
That's the nice thing about keeping Koi: you can follow your own standards and determine what you like most by yourself! Many of the elements explained here though tell something about the future of a Sanke, for example will the beni get lighter or might even disappear? Is the body posture strong which will result in a larger Sanke and a more healthy body posture, it is likely that the sumi will appear or twill it disappear? etc.
Giveway pleess🙏🙏😅😅
A Sanke? 😅
@@Aboutkoi ya
they are all showa not sanke sir :)))
It are Sanke ;) 100%. The parents are all Sanke. I have a video here I explain you the difference in Sanke and Showa. You will see why these Koi are all Sanke (even though they have more black)
won't pick all of them if me. Too much sumi and no nice shape of red at the head. Point is because shouldn't have sumi on the head of sanke
Ah, you are really strict. You make a fair point though, Sanke shouldn't have sumi visible on the head when you want a traditional high class Sanke. Personally I would also prefer to not have any sumi visible on the head area. When you select with the perspective of getting the best 3 Sanke out of this batch, would you agree on my top 3?
You keep calling it a dorsal fin. Pectoral fin! Some expert.
Did I say dorsals for the fins with tejima? My mistake then!
And I believed they are not the best choices here. At this age, they are showing too much of the Sumi or black. The Japanese breeder will not consider these as tate koi or future koi.
it are not high quality Sanke for sure, that's also what I'm explaing in this video (and why I made this video: how do you select a nice quality Sanke out of 'random' Sanke?
Ora ngerti bosone