I know some people go crazy with the cleaning. To me, half the joy of owning these machines is having the machine tell the story of its life. If you lose the patina and have it sparkling clean, it loses its life story. This is only my opinion obviously. Thanks for another great video
Thanks Brendan, this same discussion has been going on about collectible cars since the 1980s in the United States... people call the ones that have been perfectly restored “trailer queens” because you can’t drive them anywhere in case you get a scratch on it!
My first pinball was the dipsy doodle. And now i have a williams ss . Oh dear what a huge step forward is an solid state , i can only imagine how happy the distributors where with those solid ones instead of the relays
The design and engineering that it takes to make one of these is truly amazing. And it is all for making money It is entertainment, but the reason why they make these games is all to make money. Were it not for the motivation to make money, I wonder how many leaps forward in technology would never have happened. I know the VHS industry, and the home computer and the Internet, they were not big until adult entertainment came along. I had a computer in 83, but they were business machines. I remember when VHS first came out and very few people could justify spending the equivalent of 3000 dollars, a whole years salary for many people, but as soon as the rental store opened and they found out there were 100 adult videos to rent, they started flying off the shelves. Same thing with computers. In 95 I sold maybe 1 computer a month. By 99 everyone was buying them. People are very basic in their drives.
Thank you Ron! Looking forward to seeing gameplay. The modern games are flashy, but sometimes a bit sterile. The EMs have a lot of personality and "talk" to you during gameplay. Chimes, switches, and relays!
the score motor assembly is the most intimidating thing I have ever seen as far as pinball mechanics goes. I know if I ever buy an EM that is where my damn problem will be.
It definitely make an awesome documentary to prove.. But it's all on you viewers.. The fastest pinball machine and fastest Pinball ever recorded. With scientific methods included. I am your muse. Go with the the spark of idea.
It's like an archaeological dig with you! Such an adventure! Somebody told me I should wash my hands before doing a video? I LAUGHED! Im WORKIN! People! 🙄😏🙃🤣😅 Thanks man! 👍👍 Flash the night Rider I saw that. It's calling out! Fix me!!! Play Me! Lol
Several of the relay screws that were replaced should be in brass. Some relays may also have a brass washer. All I know is the brass isolates the coil from the frame magnetically. I believe this is why coil stops include brass to magnetically isolate the stop attached to it's bracket. You'd have to research, when using regular screws, how it could effect a relay's operation since I haven't tried this myself.
11:30 It looks like the numbers sharpied on the relays were which slot along that big line of relays they go in. The actual uses were printed on paper to the side. The "2nd Coin Set Up" relay (#1) and "3rd Coin Chute" relay (#4) are missing; my best guess as to why is that the door is configured for two chutes both of which are one credit per coin.
Thank you for sharing all your knowledge. I've been watching your videos for several years and have learned a lot. I find the details provided on how to properly adjust switches and the insight you provide with respect to your past experiences, to be especially helpful.
Thanks sir, very nice video. I have a 75 Bally Wizard. When I turn the game on, push the credit button, all the scores get reset to zero, the credit unit decrease by one and the lights for player one are all on, however none of the stuff on the playing field work when pushing them with hand. Also Flippers are not working. Any idea what could be the issue? Thanks
JOES CLASSIC, Which relays in pinballs games are LATCH and TRIP relays? or just latch relays? The main question is that only ONE latch can be turns ON at a time? you can't have two or more latches on at the same time?
Hey Joe! I have a broken Jone’s plug. As I was trying to squeeze the female side a bit tighter it snapped where it turns to go down through the plastic or whatever that material is. Can I just solder that back together? It seems getting a new Jone’s plug is a challenge. Thanks
I just got one of these Machine. I work as a IT tech and I was sent to an old building that was being renovated. When I got there they were throwing away this pinball Machine. I stop and ask if take it off there hands. So now I will be working on it. There was another pinball Machine but they had smashed it up and it was in a dumpster. I told the owner that if there anymore old Machine like this i would take them off his hands.
Thanks for clarifying the difference between car glass and safety glass on pinball machines. I totally forgotten about that. But with that steel ball hitting the glass that protect the playfield. It can definitely take a lot of abuse. Except for a drunk jackass for some odd reason wants to break it. But mmmm. Makes me think. What would be the fastest speed of pinball itself could get? And what game could do that? A scientific endeavor I could never achieve. But interesting to think about.
The fastest I've ever seen the ball move, is just the simple shot off the flippers, the more modern the game is the stronger the flippers are... so a new Stern or Jersey Jack, the shot off the flippers is probably the fastest speed possible. Also there are a couple different speeds you get off the flippers, if you're holding the ball and then flip it, it moves at one speed, and if you hit it as it's coming down the playfield it goes a different speed... but the fastest speed is when it's coming down the inlane at a fast speed and rolls onto the flipper, since it's already going kind of fast and the flipper just redirects it, it makes it even faster. So a nice shot down the inlane and a good strong flip at the end of the flipper on a modern Stern or Jersey Jack game would be the fastest the ball can possibly move.
I know that's what I am thinking but early 80s and 90s.. Does the comparison hold up. With ball speed and true game speed? That's what I'm trying to figure out. And considering.
And also compared to today's Pinball machines. From Stern Jersey jacks deep root and so on.. And from Williams Bally's data East Stern Capcom and so on. Question what is the fastest ever recorded pinball machine.. Question 2. What's the fastest pinball as in the ball ever recorded.
I think a police speed radar would have to be involved in testing this theory.. Open playfield definitely. No ramps upper playfield or wired slings. pop bumpers kickers are aloud. Flippers also. It's realizing an idea and theory..
Am I right in guessing that a lot of (if not most of) the "dirt" in the machine is "burned up metal" from all of those contacts sparking when they make/break connections?
The air all around us has dust in it, which is largely dead skin cells, and there's something about electromagnets that makes it collect, all the coils in the machines draw that stuff out of the air so you end up with tons of dust and dirt inside the machines. The machines even have a certain smell to them, the smell is basically dust burning.
And with scientific method. A novice should achieve the same speed as a pro. With the placebo.. On a pinball machine.. Damn you scientific method. There should be a way to do this.. But have no idea how to do it.
Well now I'm pondering that question.. Google search says. Fastest pinball in a pinball machine. I get the GETAWAY or the yagoff tunnel on F 14 TOMCAT.. Which neither answers my question. Mmmmm? Google search. Fastest pinball machine? The list is so random it doesn't bear repeating. and a hodgepodge of nothing.. Dead end.. I need to ponder this.
Bet on it! Still pondering on my question on the fastest pinball machine. And fastest pinball speeds ever recorded. But F 14 TOMCAT is really the best contender but I'm being very impartial. And a major fan of F 14 TOMCAT. but still being impartial. With scientific methods.
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I wish you could come out with video seven days a week because I like them that much you always keep them interesting
It's hard to do that many Clark but we try to do the most we can :) Thanks for watching!
Ron. Thanks for taking the time to put these video's out.........Canonsburg, Pennsylvania.
Thanks Six Toes, we appreciate you hanging out and watching!
I know some people go crazy with the cleaning. To me, half the joy of owning these machines is having the machine tell the story of its life.
If you lose the patina and have it sparkling clean, it loses its life story. This is only my opinion obviously.
Thanks for another great video
Thanks Brendan, this same discussion has been going on about collectible cars since the 1980s in the United States... people call the ones that have been perfectly restored “trailer queens” because you can’t drive them anywhere in case you get a scratch on it!
My first pinball was the dipsy doodle. And now i have a williams ss . Oh dear what a huge step forward is an solid state , i can only imagine how happy the distributors where with those solid ones instead of the relays
I guess it depends on what the warranty was like :)
Kudos to the engineers who devised the score motor unit... That's equal parts wonderful and intimidating! Brilliant.
Yeah it’s pretty wild!
Great job Ron. Thanks for taking us along. It's amazing to see the engineering & design that went into these old EM machines.
Yeah they're something else!
Great work on botom relay and steper unit board, looks nice now! 👍
Interesting, my coin unit on my Old Chicago had the same problem. Thanks for putting the work on video.
Hi Ron, I like the once in 50 years service interval comment. Cheers.
Fantastic info thanks.
Thanks for watching, Wolf Web!
The design and engineering that it takes to make one of these is truly amazing.
And it is all for making money
It is entertainment, but the reason why they make these games is all to make money.
Were it not for the motivation to make money, I wonder how many leaps forward in technology would never have happened.
I know the VHS industry, and the home computer and the Internet, they were not big until adult entertainment came along.
I had a computer in 83, but they were business machines.
I remember when VHS first came out and very few people could justify spending the equivalent of 3000 dollars, a whole years salary for many people, but as soon as the rental store opened and they found out there were 100 adult videos to rent, they started flying off the shelves.
Same thing with computers.
In 95 I sold maybe 1 computer a month.
By 99 everyone was buying them.
People are very basic in their drives.
There is a hank Williams jr. song about exactly what you’re saying called “video blues” th-cam.com/video/A6s2DoVdaOQ/w-d-xo.html
Thank you Ron! Looking forward to seeing gameplay. The modern games are flashy, but sometimes a bit sterile. The EMs have a lot of personality and "talk" to you during gameplay. Chimes, switches, and relays!
I love 'em! By the way, I catch this one on fire on the next video, ha!
I enjoyed the Video Joe Thanks
Thank you Sam we appreciate you watching!
Thanks again for this cool video! and while i'm at it i'm also shamelessly plugging for Donny. They are also great videos :)
the score motor assembly is the most intimidating thing I have ever seen as far as pinball mechanics goes. I know if I ever buy an EM that is where my damn problem will be.
Luckily they don’t usually go out of adjustment
It definitely make an awesome documentary to prove..
But it's all on you viewers..
The fastest pinball machine and fastest Pinball ever recorded.
With scientific methods included.
I am your muse.
Go with the the spark of idea.
It's like an archaeological dig with you! Such an adventure!
Somebody told me I should wash my hands before doing a video? I LAUGHED! Im WORKIN! People! 🙄😏🙃🤣😅
Thanks man! 👍👍
Flash the night Rider I saw that. It's calling out! Fix me!!! Play Me! Lol
Somebody told a guy building a fireplace in a gnomestead in Alaska to wash his hands? LOL WTF are people thinking
But gave you all a good idea.
Good luck.
Several of the relay screws that were replaced should be in brass. Some relays may also have a brass washer. All I know is the brass isolates the coil from the frame magnetically. I believe this is why coil stops include brass to magnetically isolate the stop attached to it's bracket. You'd have to research, when using regular screws, how it could effect a relay's operation since I haven't tried this myself.
It probably helps it not vibrate as much....
11:30 It looks like the numbers sharpied on the relays were which slot along that big line of relays they go in. The actual uses were printed on paper to the side. The "2nd Coin Set Up" relay (#1) and "3rd Coin Chute" relay (#4) are missing; my best guess as to why is that the door is configured for two chutes both of which are one credit per coin.
Thank you for sharing all your knowledge. I've been watching your videos for several years and have learned a lot. I find the details provided on how to properly adjust switches and the insight you provide with respect to your past experiences, to be especially helpful.
Thank you Randall, that's very kind of you to say... see you on the next video!
Thanks sir, very nice video. I have a 75 Bally Wizard. When I turn the game on, push the credit button, all the scores get reset to zero, the credit unit decrease by one and the lights for player one are all on, however none of the stuff on the playing field work when pushing them with hand. Also Flippers are not working.
Any idea what could be the issue?
Thanks
JOES CLASSIC, Which relays in pinballs games are LATCH and TRIP relays? or just latch relays? The main question is that only ONE latch can be turns ON at a time? you can't have two or more latches on at the same time?
Good luck people..
I think you need to exclude em machines..
Except for fireball..
Which would be a great contender for the fastest em machine.
Hey Joe! I have a broken Jone’s plug. As I was trying to squeeze the female side a bit tighter it snapped where it turns to go down through the plastic or whatever that material is. Can I just solder that back together? It seems getting a new Jone’s plug is a challenge. Thanks
I just got one of these Machine. I work as a IT tech and I was sent to an old building that was being renovated. When I got there they were throwing away this pinball Machine. I stop and ask if take it off there hands. So now I will be working on it. There was another pinball Machine but they had smashed it up and it was in a dumpster. I told the owner that if there anymore old Machine like this i would take them off his hands.
One thing I notice from your video is the Machine I have has a sound board on it along with the chimes.
As in..
As in what is the fastest speed a pinball can do?
And what pinball machine can produce at speed?
Thanks for clarifying the difference between car glass and safety glass on pinball machines.
I totally forgotten about that.
But with that steel ball hitting the glass that protect the playfield.
It can definitely take a lot of abuse.
Except for a drunk jackass for some odd reason wants to break it.
But mmmm.
Makes me think.
What would be the fastest speed of pinball itself could get?
And what game could do that?
A scientific endeavor I could never achieve.
But interesting to think about.
The fastest I've ever seen the ball move, is just the simple shot off the flippers, the more modern the game is the stronger the flippers are... so a new Stern or Jersey Jack, the shot off the flippers is probably the fastest speed possible. Also there are a couple different speeds you get off the flippers, if you're holding the ball and then flip it, it moves at one speed, and if you hit it as it's coming down the playfield it goes a different speed... but the fastest speed is when it's coming down the inlane at a fast speed and rolls onto the flipper, since it's already going kind of fast and the flipper just redirects it, it makes it even faster. So a nice shot down the inlane and a good strong flip at the end of the flipper on a modern Stern or Jersey Jack game would be the fastest the ball can possibly move.
I know that's what I am thinking but early 80s and 90s..
Does the comparison hold up.
With ball speed and true game speed?
That's what I'm trying to figure out.
And considering.
And also compared to today's Pinball machines.
From Stern Jersey jacks deep root and so on..
And from Williams Bally's data East Stern Capcom and so on.
Question what is the fastest ever recorded pinball machine..
Question 2. What's the fastest pinball as in the ball ever recorded.
I don't think the pinball database considered this question.
I think a police speed radar would have to be involved in testing this theory..
Open playfield definitely.
No ramps upper playfield or wired slings.
pop bumpers kickers are aloud.
Flippers also.
It's realizing an idea and theory..
Am I right in guessing that a lot of (if not most of) the "dirt" in the machine is "burned up metal" from all of those contacts sparking when they make/break connections?
The air all around us has dust in it, which is largely dead skin cells, and there's something about electromagnets that makes it collect, all the coils in the machines draw that stuff out of the air so you end up with tons of dust and dirt inside the machines. The machines even have a certain smell to them, the smell is basically dust burning.
Well, you know the old saying: better to have a wire and not need it than to need a wire and not have it.
And with scientific method.
A novice should achieve the same speed as a pro.
With the placebo..
On a pinball machine..
Damn you scientific method.
There should be a way to do this..
But have no idea how to do it.
Sorry I was just thinking out loud.
Well now I'm pondering that question..
Google search says.
Fastest pinball in a pinball machine.
I get the GETAWAY or the yagoff tunnel on F 14 TOMCAT..
Which neither answers my question.
Mmmmm?
Google search.
Fastest pinball machine?
The list is so random it doesn't bear repeating.
and a hodgepodge of nothing..
Dead end..
I need to ponder this.
We're working on an F-14 Tomcat next, so you'll see how fast that Yagoff kicker is!
Yep I will be watching that..
Bet on it!
Still pondering on my question on the fastest pinball machine. And fastest pinball speeds ever recorded.
But F 14 TOMCAT is really the best contender but I'm being very impartial.
And a major fan of F 14 TOMCAT.
but still being impartial.
With scientific methods.