One thing that I have gleaned from this two part interview is that we've unsung heroes in the civil service. The audits from auditor and comptroller of the Zim gvt is enough testimony when it comes to checking out of the Zim's financial statements or declarations of the Zim gvt's finance. The department ensures the declared financial reports are true! Fair play to them folks they have been religiously releasing the unbiased audits every year. Biti - he's so intelligent, articulate and funny - laid it bare even for a mere mechanic like me to fathom. Also, I have noted that Zim has got industrious and dedicated politicians from across the political divide. What we lack, currently, is visionary leadership!
You cannot avoid politics whilst discussing Zim economics ipapo ma hosts you need to self reflect Biti musiyei ataure. But welldone for putting the interview Biti is such a joy to listen to. His consideration for the well-being of the smallest guy in the civil service reminds me the importance of having a politician as a Finance Minister
Great Interview. My takeaway is that as the private sector, we need to up our game & exploit the opportunities in the Zimbabwean economy aggressively engaging the Government of the day constructively. After the dust of political grandstanding has settled, we all want to live decent & respectful lives as Zimbabweans through wisdom & hard work. Let's be careful when engaging the IMF, World Bank, Paris Club of Donors, and Multilateral & Bilateral lending institutions/countries (East or West) to ensure that any assistance we get from them comes in to complement our own home-grown vision & plan for political/economic development. We are our own political/economic liberators as Zimbabweans.
Guys you have given us 2 excellent and insightful shows. As the shows were done at one sitting Rufaro was getting into Troutbeck mode towards the end kkkkkkkk
Great show, definitely one of my favorite episodes, interesting history, the Gono and Mugabe relationship highlights the difference between politics perceptions and the realities & personalities involved in running the administration
Rufaro's excessively capitalistic arguments makes him come off as elitist and inconsiderate. Surely you can't argue against people earning a living wage. Huge respect for Biti. The MDC going into the 2013 elections was a huge mistake.
Capitalist ideals come across as elitist and inconsiderate. Thats why socialism/communism is so appealing. But if you focus on the outcomes, you will see that capitalism is much more compassionate and considerate than socialism/communism.
@@rufarozengeni6652 You are a capitalist extremist. No one wants communism but as Biti has highlighted we need a system that uplifts the poor and the more people who participate in the economy the richer capitalist get.
@@rufarozengeni6652 you view capitalism and socialism (can't think of where pure communism has ever been practiced) as binary systems of either or. Capitalism can be applied but with social nets for those that require assistance.
No doubt that this and the first episode will be the most watched episodes ever since you started this show. It's priceless. But mawanza maedits pa2nd part.
Ndoo problem yenyu maZimba. Munhu akagona you build eternal attachments. It's bad for democracy, there's lots of capable Zimboz out there. Build systems and let leaders come and go.
@@BigMeech1 true that, he still has a national duty to accomplish. He never had the chance to pass on the baton, in fact to groom potential and train it on how to make Zim function. Listen to him on how he was amazed by certain characters that were already there in gvnmnt. Listen to him on how he was trained at varsity on how to do research, and look at the man he is today in the legal fraternity. Look at him and the energy he has as he tells his story about how pragmatically he successfully and transformed and pulled out the ministry of finance from the dungeons
Great show. Tinashe, get Tendai give his side of the story… usaite nharo naye, you can then validate that post the interview and either call others or call him back… let the interview flow.. overall great show
I feel like the hosts need to watch Mdhara B interviews, especially the one he recently did with Biti on HStv. They need to give their guests time to speak and not constantly interrupt them.
The informative gems dropped in this podcast were 👌. Brilliant guest. A small suggestion for the hosts- please work on your interview skills, it felt like you kept cutting off your guest mid sentence
This thing of lets not.... we don't want to be sued...ngatisataure mazita is quite backward. Let the guests speak their version of the truth. If someone wants to rebutt you can invite them to the show. Biti is also right about the socialist economies of Scandinavia. That model is different from other capitalist states. Put people first.
I found that to be silly, if Biti says something that is not true then that is on him not the platform. It seems someone is overly concerned about protecting names than issues. For example the name of a director or owner of a company is a matter of public record.
Knowing that DeBeers was looting Chiadzwa using samples as a scapegoat, and that US $60 Billion worthy of Diamonds were looted from Chiadzwa is a bitter pill to swallow. We thought it was only US $15 Billion not knowing that it was actually more.
@@ephraimmutevani4877 Yes, no due diligence checks. Just imagine Chiadzwa diamonds were alluvial diamonds meaning they were on the surface u don't need too dig deep to obtain them , hoes, even sticks are enough. He failed to investigate that .
Rufaro’s arguments were necessary because they allowed Biti to further articulate his positions. Ideas must be challenged we must not allow people to just yap uncontrollably in front of camera. This is how ideas are improved. I enjoyed listening to Biti and I agree with him politically but we must always encourage diversity of thought. This habit of not allowing people to be challenged is the reason why we are here.
Great show, Tinashe and Rufaro. However, Tinashe it would be beneficial to let others speak more. You have excellent interviewing skills, but giving the speakers more time to respond and avoiding being too argumentative would enhance the experience.
Baba Nyenyedzi, good research which showed during the two sessions. Rufaro some constructive criticism, elitist economic views don't fly in Zim. Give contributions that are consistent with our environment and if I may say, you didn't take enough time to research for this session which ultimately resulted in Baba Nyenyedzi grabbing hold of both sessions kuti dzvi.
Tinashe should calm down not everything is an argument and its not only his opinion that counts But otherwise this was a good discussion well done guys!!!
I think its crude when you get to fact check your guest during the show. Give your guests enough space to push their narrative. You can then call guys from the other side to counter the narrative on another show.
All credits of the good USD era goes to the GNU, unity of purpose at that time. Biti worked hard and is very good BUT he cant claim all the goodness of GNU to be his
I always enjoy Biti interviews, he is a brilliant mind. The only Finance Minister who could say no to the plunderers, all who came after him were bootlickers who feed the rich by squeezing every penny from the poor. The guy in black interjects way too much, limit him the booze, he was turning the interview into some bar talk with unnecessary arguments.
I have nothing but love for the little guy. I believe in market-related remuneration. Our ministers should be paid like CEOs in the private sector and the little guys in government should be paid like the little guys in the private sector. Its the same principle.
Interesting conversation as usual...Is there anything you guys could do to absorb the noises that come from either movement of hands or bottles. It is irritating.
Very interesting podcast but the guy with nyaradzo shirt ...u are disturbing Biti in answering questions...firstly in part 1 , Biti was about to explain, why he was going to Zuma for help financially when he took over ...and also part 2, you are not sure with your own research.....
What a great discussion, TB is one of the greatest minds of our time, a repository of history. The main anchor is a fantastic host, the other anchor comes out as unnecessarily abrasive, without the intellectual stamina to substantiate his outbursts and interjections.
Stop interrupting!!!!! Was the purpose of having Biti on the show to have an argument with him or for Biti to give us an account of his gnu experience? The interviewers are extremely incompetent and annoying. Let Biti talk and stop arguing with him. We here to hear Biti.
Tinashe there are times when you interject which led to the point being highlighted by Tendai to be completely dropped. To me, that was very bad for the discussion flow.
Interviewers I know kuti makadzidza but please a podcast is not a forum to debate your guests. Please I was so annoyed by these part 1 and part 2 (worse) interviewers. Too much arguing with Mr Biti.
Our country is rich bro,if the gvt can afford to fork out 87 million for non existing goat schemes,40 million for elections,how can we say we cant pay mere 500 to our gvt work force
Tinashe if its all about you then why even bother having Rufaro on the show? This seems to be happening on a weekly basis, please at least don't go about shooting him down in front of the camera. I personally think he (Rufaro )talks a lot of sense given a chance and he is probably the only one of you lot with marbles not to sketch around issues that name drops big wigs (especially after a few sips of wise waters)
Guys if you are moderators give the platform for the person you invite to give us the actual nd feed back but you keep on interrupting him for your superiority does not make sense grow up nd shape up for good of your viewership not yourself,you need to sell your brand
Tinashe is most annoying interviewer..Why want to steal lime light from guests.. Its better you leave the show to knowledgeable people. Good job Biti..par excellence...Tinashe is shallow, below par and unnecessary
One thing that I have gleaned from this two part interview is that we've unsung heroes in the civil service. The audits from auditor and comptroller of the Zim gvt is enough testimony when it comes to checking out of the Zim's financial statements or declarations of the Zim gvt's finance. The department ensures the declared financial reports are true! Fair play to them folks they have been religiously releasing the unbiased audits every year. Biti - he's so intelligent, articulate and funny - laid it bare even for a mere mechanic like me to fathom. Also, I have noted that Zim has got industrious and dedicated politicians from across the political divide. What we lack, currently, is visionary leadership!
What is lacking is ACCOUNTABILITY bro?
You cannot avoid politics whilst discussing Zim economics ipapo ma hosts you need to self reflect Biti musiyei ataure. But welldone for putting the interview Biti is such a joy to listen to. His consideration for the well-being of the smallest guy in the civil service reminds me the importance of having a politician as a Finance Minister
Very insightful. Thanks for sharing. Its a shame that Biti is no longer in Parliament.
This is one of the greatest and informative interviews, Siyabonga Baba Biti sifunde okunengi
Great Interview. My takeaway is that as the private sector, we need to up our game & exploit the opportunities in the Zimbabwean economy aggressively engaging the Government of the day constructively. After the dust of political grandstanding has settled, we all want to live decent & respectful lives as Zimbabweans through wisdom & hard work. Let's be careful when engaging the IMF, World Bank, Paris Club of Donors, and Multilateral & Bilateral lending institutions/countries (East or West) to ensure that any assistance we get from them comes in to complement our own home-grown vision & plan for political/economic development. We are our own political/economic liberators as Zimbabweans.
Guys you have given us 2 excellent and insightful shows. As the shows were done at one sitting Rufaro was getting into Troutbeck mode towards the end kkkkkkkk
Great show, definitely one of my favorite episodes, interesting history, the Gono and Mugabe relationship highlights the difference between politics perceptions and the realities & personalities involved in running the administration
Guys thank you for 2 insightful shows.absolutely brilliant
Wonderful conversation, gentlemen!
Kindergarten! Thoroughly enjoyed part 2. Indeed felt like a Masterclass. Hats off to interviewers for a riveting talk
Great discussion, brilliant interviewer but extremely brilliant guest TB..
the part 2 is the best show that I have enjoyed since the beginning of season 1
Rufaro's excessively capitalistic arguments makes him come off as elitist and inconsiderate. Surely you can't argue against people earning a living wage. Huge respect for Biti. The MDC going into the 2013 elections was a huge mistake.
That was annoying
Capitalist ideals come across as elitist and inconsiderate. Thats why socialism/communism is so appealing. But if you focus on the outcomes, you will see that capitalism is much more compassionate and considerate than socialism/communism.
@@rufarozengeni6652 You are a capitalist extremist. No one wants communism but as Biti has highlighted we need a system that uplifts the poor and the more people who participate in the economy the richer capitalist get.
@@rufarozengeni6652 you view capitalism and socialism (can't think of where pure communism has ever been practiced) as binary systems of either or. Capitalism can be applied but with social nets for those that require assistance.
@t.r.m1698 pure capitalism has not been practiced either
Great show indeed. Thank you tinashe, rufaro and honourable biti
this is so insightful
No doubt that this and the first episode will be the most watched episodes ever since you started this show. It's priceless. But mawanza maedits pa2nd part.
Great interview. I think you guys should invite former Governor Gono. Would love to hear his insights on the inflation during his tenure
Very insightful discussion , Zanu pf is indeed a stumbling block to Development in this nation. The essar deal is heartbreaking .....
A masterclass it is, and Biti deserves to be the finance minister of the current government for it to speed up and succeed in it's endeavors
Ndoo problem yenyu maZimba. Munhu akagona you build eternal attachments. It's bad for democracy, there's lots of capable Zimboz out there. Build systems and let leaders come and go.
@@BigMeech1 true that, he still has a national duty to accomplish. He never had the chance to pass on the baton, in fact to groom potential and train it on how to make Zim function. Listen to him on how he was amazed by certain characters that were already there in gvnmnt. Listen to him on how he was trained at varsity on how to do research, and look at the man he is today in the legal fraternity. Look at him and the energy he has as he tells his story about how pragmatically he successfully and transformed and pulled out the ministry of finance from the dungeons
😊😊😅
Great show. Tinashe, get Tendai give his side of the story… usaite nharo naye, you can then validate that post the interview and either call others or call him back… let the interview flow.. overall great show
Tinashe, you spoiled the flow. Disappointed 😞
I feel like the hosts need to watch Mdhara B interviews, especially the one he recently did with Biti on HStv. They need to give their guests time to speak and not constantly interrupt them.
The informative gems dropped in this podcast were 👌. Brilliant guest. A small suggestion for the hosts- please work on your interview skills, it felt like you kept cutting off your guest mid sentence
Great insights from Biti
Tinashe must learn to give his cohost chance to participate, otherwise whats the use of having him on the panel
This thing of lets not.... we don't want to be sued...ngatisataure mazita is quite backward. Let the guests speak their version of the truth. If someone wants to rebutt you can invite them to the show. Biti is also right about the socialist economies of Scandinavia. That model is different from other capitalist states. Put people first.
I found that to be silly, if Biti says something that is not true then that is on him not the platform. It seems someone is overly concerned about protecting names than issues. For example the name of a director or owner of a company is a matter of public record.
You get ***** five stars on this interview. felt like an honest depiction of the operation called government from an insider
The Theories Vs on the ground practicalities section of this was handled quite well by biti 😂
Tinashe shamwari- tinozviziva kuti une data but let us hear from the guest without too much interruption.
interruption yacho was too much
Rufaro Rufaro trying to sound intelligent over a bottle of something can be a problem, your arguments haikona but great show
Really enjoyed this one
This was epic!
Knowing that DeBeers was looting Chiadzwa using samples as a scapegoat, and that US $60 Billion worthy of Diamonds were looted from Chiadzwa is a bitter pill to swallow. We thought it was only US $15 Billion not knowing that it was actually more.
So you mean to say obert mpofu was duped by De Beers for a very longest time in our lifetime without knowing this samples were initially diamond's 😂😂😂
@@ephraimmutevani4877 Yes, no due diligence checks. Just imagine Chiadzwa diamonds were alluvial diamonds meaning they were on the surface u don't need too dig deep to obtain them , hoes, even sticks are enough. He failed to investigate that .
Interesting thought experiment: how much would you have to pay the president of Zim to stop/prevent corruption?
Rufaro’s arguments were necessary because they allowed Biti to further articulate his positions.
Ideas must be challenged we must not allow people to just yap uncontrollably in front of camera.
This is how ideas are improved.
I enjoyed listening to Biti and I agree with him politically but we must always encourage diversity of thought.
This habit of not allowing people to be challenged is the reason why we are here.
thank you for such rich content.
wish all Citizens to have this information
Did anyone notice how Biti scated around his own MDC peers? Nothing much told about his own party colleagues or the principal MRT.
Because he was not asked anything directly to do with them
Amazing!
Great show, Tinashe and Rufaro. However, Tinashe it would be beneficial to let others speak more. You have excellent interviewing skills, but giving the speakers more time to respond and avoiding being too argumentative would enhance the experience.
Tinashe is terrible he kills a good show
@@talk8596Yeah ngavamboita vachitapudza kunwa during the interviews. Plus they should let the guests speak freely without interrupting them.
Guy is full of i know. He does not want to be shadowed
He is definitely killing the show by interrupting too much and being argumentative as well.
Zero interview skills. These guys are whack:
Baba Nyenyedzi, good research which showed during the two sessions. Rufaro some constructive criticism, elitist economic views don't fly in Zim. Give contributions that are consistent with our environment and if I may say, you didn't take enough time to research for this session which ultimately resulted in Baba Nyenyedzi grabbing hold of both sessions kuti dzvi.
Great engagement it is.
To what extent is he protected from cabinet secrets and confidential act?
Great show overall! Less interjections will make it even greater next time!
These guys are captured, period.
Biti as a Gem
Tinashe should calm down not everything is an argument and its not only his opinion that counts But otherwise this was a good discussion well done guys!!!
eish this Tinashe guy has started again. Reminds me of how argumentative he was in the Eddie Cross interview
He's annoying, he asks questions with the intention to show that he knows more than the interviewee 🙄
Tendai very intelligent person we are going to regret by not awarding him a big post as a nation
I think its crude when you get to fact check your guest during the show. Give your guests enough space to push their narrative. You can then call guys from the other side to counter the narrative on another show.
All credits of the good USD era goes to the GNU, unity of purpose at that time. Biti worked hard and is very good BUT he cant claim all the goodness of GNU to be his
I always enjoy Biti interviews, he is a brilliant mind. The only Finance Minister who could say no to the plunderers, all who came after him were bootlickers who feed the rich by squeezing every penny from the poor. The guy in black interjects way too much, limit him the booze, he was turning the interview into some bar talk with unnecessary arguments.
Deep stuff
Biti always say let me finish because while he is trying to make a point he get a different question
your table mics are compromising the quality of the audio
A very good show, less interruptions would help. It's a pity that some in the political divide don't see value in this man, strategic ambiguity 😅
Rufaro really doesnt like the little guy. He wants the heads of govt to be rich but not pay civil servants a livable wage
I have nothing but love for the little guy. I believe in market-related remuneration. Our ministers should be paid like CEOs in the private sector and the little guys in government should be paid like the little guys in the private sector. Its the same principle.
Eish one line makutonwa drink
Elton Mangoma, one of the pioneering CA in Zimbabwe.
Vakamurasa vakomana
@@shingaikanhimba205 Aah avo vakomana ndeve kusiya vakadaro vachiita mahumbwe avo.
Interesting conversation as usual...Is there anything you guys could do to absorb the noises that come from either movement of hands or bottles. It is irritating.
What's ZFN capital & how does it survive in this harsh economic condition of Zimbabwe?
Please keep Rufaro away from any Govt post! 😂
That guy in a Nyaradzo shirt is just too loud for nothing. Full of i know attitude continuously disrupting the guy with information
Do another one
Very interesting podcast but the guy with nyaradzo shirt ...u are disturbing Biti in answering questions...firstly in part 1 , Biti was about to explain, why he was going to Zuma for help financially when he took over ...and also part 2, you are not sure with your own research.....
Was so eagerly following the Zuma angle but boom, Biti was interrupted, dissappointed
Come on...why did you edit out the part at 24:54
Indeed a masterclass, I would advice you guys to try get Prof Gift Mugano, difficult guy to get hold of but he’s a walking oasis of knowledge!
An average psudo-economists that one
Best show, although l feel the guest could have been allowed to speak more
This light guy is fuckin up this interview😢
Biti is rich in mind
What a great discussion, TB is one of the greatest minds of our time, a repository of history. The main anchor is a fantastic host, the other anchor comes out as unnecessarily abrasive, without the intellectual stamina to substantiate his outbursts and interjections.
Stop interrupting!!!!! Was the purpose of having Biti on the show to have an argument with him or for Biti to give us an account of his gnu experience? The interviewers are extremely incompetent and annoying. Let Biti talk and stop arguing with him. We here to hear Biti.
Fact check on Zamco... 😂😂
Mukoma Tinashe enjoyed listening to Biti
Tinashe there are times when you interject which led to the point being highlighted by Tendai to be completely dropped. To me, that was very bad for the discussion flow.
Dzikamai akoma siyai vabiti vataure chii kumhanya.......
Interviewers I know kuti makadzidza but please a podcast is not a forum to debate your guests. Please I was so annoyed by these part 1 and part 2 (worse) interviewers. Too much arguing with Mr Biti.
Rufaro must not be given any position in Government 😂 please please 🙏🙏🙏
Organize part 3
Offered nothing 😂😂😂😂
Rufaro🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️ please make sense to this ? Whats wrong with $500 teacher or nurse salary?
Its way above what Zimbabwe can afford and what is paid in the region.
@@rufarozengeni6652 haa mukoma Rufaro musadaro, Zimbabwe can afford nyika iri kubiwa ma diamonds, gold mobva mati we can afford?
Our country is rich bro,if the gvt can afford to fork out 87 million for non existing goat schemes,40 million for elections,how can we say we cant pay mere 500 to our gvt work force
Also we are very rich interms of more than 30 minerals in zimbabwe ,we need good management of our rich minerals, So we can pay more than that.
makatsikatsika panyaya yemadiamonds
Amana Rufaro arikumixsa laphroaig nemvura haaaaaa
Take other cabinet ministers from the opposition about the gnu also
Tinashe if its all about you then why even bother having Rufaro on the show? This seems to be happening on a weekly basis, please at least don't go about shooting him down in front of the camera. I personally think he (Rufaro )talks a lot of sense given a chance and he is probably the only one of you lot with marbles not to sketch around issues that name drops big wigs (especially after a few sips of wise waters)
👏👏👏👏
Tinashe, you kept on disturbing
Mangoma akashanda
A military establishmnet - 90 billion company, haaa no wonder why vachi rapiwa ku China, vaka bhadhara kare ikoko.
Rufaro.pleaae keep quiet.on.your salary comparison 😂😂😂.
Good interviewing questions, but you need to improve on your interviewing technique. Let the guest finish his trail of thought.
Guys if you are moderators give the platform for the person you invite to give us the actual nd feed back but you keep on interrupting him for your superiority does not make sense grow up nd shape up for good of your viewership not yourself,you need to sell your brand
JULY 2014
Thank you but you guys have a long way to go with interviews. Do not become guests on your own shows
17 Course meal kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
Rufaro Rufaro... .. its best you kept your mouth shut during the better part of the interview, you had very weak arguments here.
Learn to listen please!
Ko pa 27minutes nhai Tinashe unoitisei ko nharo iye muridzi wenyaya aripo
Haaa Tinashe 🚮
Harris Anna Moore Jason Jones Thomas
Tinashe is most annoying interviewer..Why want to steal lime light from guests..
Its better you leave the show to knowledgeable people.
Good job Biti..par excellence...Tinashe is shallow, below par and unnecessary
Tinashe is such a terrible host. OMG
Let Biti tell all mukubhowa
wanted to hear about Mugabe's visit to China on diamonds.. akatwa