The hops can be any relevant application, more likely to be yanking someone's neck from behind. Thank you for this video, I have only recently learnt the routine, I am now fine tuning the techniques and will then work on timing etc, it may take a while to work out the many applications that could be going on.
Not a mistake, just the SKIF method. In the previous move the right hand is on top of the left so when transitioning to the tate shuto, the right arm stays over the left. It's just a convention we use in SKIF according to Kanazawa-Sensei.
Excellent approach and explanation, making it easy to capture details and perform kata. Thank you very much. By the way your videos are very padagogic.
I've heard that story before but I don't believe it for a minute. It is just a convenient explanation that goes along with the theory that all kata should start and finish in the same spot. More likely is that the hops represent a choking and dragging application that could be used after the final tate shuto, tate-ken gyaku-zuki, ie. grab the back of the head, pull in to a face punch and then twist the neck and choke while dragging to the floor to finish off.
Given the Japanese propensity, I would say the "same place" principle is the most correct.The Only way to know the correct way is to see the Okinawan ones that Itosu Anko sensei or Funakoshi sensei created before watering them down for Japanese kids.
I was taught to execute gohon nukite not as a straight strike right in the eyes but rather as a rising strike (like age tsuki in enpi kata). It represents the application where firstly the jaw is hit from below with the base of the palm (teisho) and only thereafter comes attack to the eyes. It makes sense...
Where the geidan uchi's are I was initially taught palm down like a suto. I am trying to do it palm up but after 23 years the other way I'd say this is one of the hardest parts of my conversion. LOL Thank you for all these wonderful kata videos with commentary. They are very helpful.
I find is amazing how many people thing the Sun fist, or in this case Tate-zuki, is unique to Wing Chun or Chinese martial arts and many think it's not in Karate at all. Same for the split finger eye strike. Thanks for this informative demonstration. Osu.
i was told the hops were added because the creator of this form died before completing it. The hops were to return you to start without adding techniques to stay true to the original form of their master. Is any of that true?
+Andrew Stepanik If that were the case, it would mean that the creator of this KATA was teaching it to somebody while it was still a work-in-progess, and then, he died. And the disciple reverently decided to only add three bunny hops, instead of adding his own techniques (moves), to bring the KATA back to its starting position. The way I see it, with the palm of one hand on the fist of the other in all three hops, it's anybody's guess what it means. If there are arm/hand movements at each hop, one might get a clue that the first hop might mean pulling the opponent's head down by the neck, and doing a hammer fist at the back of his head/neck/etc after leaping up in the air...and something else for the second and third hops, which would end the fight with the opponent badly injured/KO/dead, and end the KATA. Maybe the creator of this KATA wanted to leave a Zen Buddhist Koan for practitioners to think hard over?
Another application i've seen is an arm lock that bends the attacker over, they twist and take a shot at your groin with their free arm, you soon shift backwards! Whatever the truth or original application it's more important for us to make something useful out of it. Train with the 2 above ideas and try to create another to further your Karate. OSU!
Violentlyh - I think they are all Zenkutsu. As for palms, the way I have been learning it is with one up and furthest one down... Everyone's Kata is slightly different but all the same.
Thanks for sharing! At 1:14 your arm doing Tate Shuto went over the arm blocking, I saw other videos where it was the other way.. is it just a mistake or are there 2 ways to do tate shuto?
Many thanks, you videos have helped me to get to Nidan, now training for Sandan. What is the origin of this kata, it seems very different to what I have learnt in Shotokan some far.
+Kostas Jurkevicius I think that is just merely formal. Shotokan's Karate says that their katas start and end at the exact same position. Since the original kata finished out of this point, Shotokan Karate implemented this little jumps to finish at the same position you start. But you can say it's that you're grabbing someone and you're just breaking his/her balance. Greetings!
As always Sensei. Your explanations pays attention to very minute detail; it helps me with the bunkai a lot more. Thank you!
It is what we were told also, Chinte has always been the unfinished kata because the master died before completing it.
That is wankan
The hops can be any relevant application, more likely to be yanking someone's neck from behind. Thank you for this video, I have only recently learnt the routine, I am now fine tuning the techniques and will then work on timing etc, it may take a while to work out the many applications that could be going on.
As a fortunate student of Enoeda Sensei, i can say that your application is wonderful. i have always loved that Kata.
Not a mistake, just the SKIF method. In the previous move the right hand is on top of the left so when transitioning to the tate shuto, the right arm stays over the left. It's just a convention we use in SKIF according to Kanazawa-Sensei.
Excellent approach and explanation, making it easy to capture details and perform kata. Thank you very much. By the way your videos are very padagogic.
I've heard that story before but I don't believe it for a minute. It is just a convenient explanation that goes along with the theory that all kata should start and finish in the same spot. More likely is that the hops represent a choking and dragging application that could be used after the final tate shuto, tate-ken gyaku-zuki, ie. grab the back of the head, pull in to a face punch and then twist the neck and choke while dragging to the floor to finish off.
Given the Japanese propensity, I would say the "same place" principle is the most correct.The Only way to know the correct way is to see the Okinawan ones that Itosu Anko sensei or Funakoshi sensei created before watering them down for Japanese kids.
@@KaptainCanuck Shitoryu didn't f**k up the embusen. They don't need to do the hops.
Thank you, your kata is always clear and easy to follow, though I am not SKIF, the minor differences do not detract from the lesson.
I was taught to execute gohon nukite not as a straight strike right in the eyes but rather as a rising strike (like age tsuki in enpi kata). It represents the application where firstly the jaw is hit from below with the base of the palm (teisho) and only thereafter comes attack to the eyes. It makes sense...
Please made a video in how to make sound effects in kata
Where the geidan uchi's are I was initially taught palm down like a suto. I am trying to do it palm up but after 23 years the other way I'd say this is one of the hardest parts of my conversion. LOL Thank you for all these wonderful kata videos with commentary. They are very helpful.
SKIF method is both palms up. That doesn't make other methods wrong, of course :-) Correct on the zenkutsu answer.
This kata video is clear why some videos are not clear
Alright! Thank you for explaining and thank you for such helpful videos.
Bonjour maître oss vraiment je regarde bien ton katas vraiment super
that three hops backward looks awkward,, is it a part of kata? Or is it just a movement to comeback to starting position??
I find is amazing how many people thing the Sun fist, or in this case Tate-zuki, is unique to Wing Chun or Chinese martial arts and many think it's not in Karate at all. Same for the split finger eye strike. Thanks for this informative demonstration. Osu.
Which one is the sun fist?
The vertical fist, with the thumb pointed up, fairly common in Chinese arts, thus hinting at Karate's Chinese roots.
thank you, for the explanation. very clear. thums up
Oss! This is very informative, thank you for sharing!
i was told the hops were added because the creator of this form died before completing it. The hops were to return you to start without adding techniques to stay true to the original form of their master. Is any of that true?
+Andrew Stepanik
If that were the case, it would mean that the creator of this KATA was teaching it to somebody while it was still a work-in-progess, and then, he died. And the disciple reverently decided to only add three bunny hops, instead of adding his own techniques (moves), to bring the KATA back to its starting position.
The way I see it, with the palm of one hand on the fist of the other in all three hops, it's anybody's guess what it means.
If there are arm/hand movements at each hop, one might get a clue that the first hop might mean pulling the opponent's head down by the neck, and doing a hammer fist at the back of his head/neck/etc after leaping up in the air...and something else for the second and third hops, which would end the fight with the opponent badly injured/KO/dead, and end the KATA.
Maybe the creator of this KATA wanted to leave a Zen Buddhist Koan for practitioners to think hard over?
nice breakdown of this kata.
Another application i've seen is an arm lock that bends the attacker over, they twist and take a shot at your groin with their free arm, you soon shift backwards! Whatever the truth or original application it's more important for us to make something useful out of it. Train with the 2 above ideas and try to create another to further your Karate. OSU!
Violentlyh - I think they are all Zenkutsu. As for palms, the way I have been learning it is with one up and furthest one down... Everyone's Kata is slightly different but all the same.
2021/ learning this wonderful martial art
Thanks for sharing!
At 1:14 your arm doing Tate Shuto went over the arm blocking, I saw other videos where it was the other way.. is it just a mistake or are there 2 ways to do tate shuto?
Many thanks, you videos have helped me to get to Nidan, now training for Sandan. What is the origin of this kata, it seems very different to what I have learnt in Shotokan some far.
whats the purpose of 3 hops back at the end?
+Kostas Jurkevicius I think that is just merely formal. Shotokan's Karate says that their katas start and end at the exact same position. Since the original kata finished out of this point, Shotokan Karate implemented this little jumps to finish at the same position you start. But you can say it's that you're grabbing someone and you're just breaking his/her balance. Greetings!
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Every kata end on start position
thanks ❤❤I love karate
I am saved 21 katas of shotokan with chinte but I still on black 1DAN
3.21 fudo or zenku? 3.26 fudo or zenku ?
The second move is not a strike. No one strikes that way...it has several other interpretations. But nice presentation anyway.
Are both nakadaka ippon ken and nihon nukite done in fudo or zenkutsu dachi ?
acho que voce precisa fazer um reciclagem nos seus katas...
I meant nihon nukite - sorry for misleading remark...
Zenkutsu-dachi.
Thank you Sensei. Oss
Thanks sir
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gracias me ayudastes mucho yo me sabia ese kata pero tenia errores tu video ayudo pd : tengo 12 años xD
Oss.. Sir
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Hop along...... ahahahaha!