Got Propane Install | 1.3L Suzuki Samurai Conversion
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 พ.ค. 2021
- The days of stalling out on steep angles are soon to be gone. Check out this kit from GotPropane.com! The install was relatively easy, and we're really happy with the results!
Got Propane Samurai Kit: www.gotpropane.com/p541.html
00:53 Background on the issue
01:05 Got Propane Kit
01:14 Pros & cons of the Weber carb
03:18 Pros & cons of propane
04:57 Removing the fuel system
05:40 Propane manifold adapter
05:48 Removing fuel pump
06:01 Throttle cable options
06:54 Mounting the new components
08:00 LPG line and hose routing
08:48 Forklift tank mounting
10:43 Coolant lines
11:47 LPG line AN fitting attachement
14:07 Wiring the solenoid
14:40 Checking for leaks
15:07 First start
15:43 Throttle issues
16:33 Return spring idea
17:02 Return spring testing
17:20 Test drive
18:44 Install Recap
21:42 Kit critiques
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Hi , great job . In India the LPG conversion kits come with an adapter plate that fits between the air filter and throttle . That way the car is dual fuel ...runs on petrol and LPG .
I'd love to see a video or explanation on that! Sounds cool!!!!
@@johnog8358 LOL, the adapter causes problem all the time and sometimes mixes up both LPG and petrol which causes fire
Ho where i can buy the kit
I need it for a dual carburetor
With the GLP the engine runs very smooth.
I use GLP for More thank 30 Years,
And Is a very clean fuel for the engine AND the environment.
Thanks.
What Dan Carroll Said. Great to see you back on the samurai.
I still several kits in shop I pulled of my pickup and tanks
Plus it’s what our tractors are also and I love it plus engine lasts longer and burn clean
Nice job buddy!
X2 on Webers sucking. I got out-wheeled by my cousins stock $200 Nissan Pathfinder going up a hill sure to the Weber I had. Then I turned it around and dealt with dying going down hills. I didn't want to meet with it and went to the certified machine 3k and it's been much better. Propane is what I'll go to next if I ever change it up.
I liked that you used that type of Fuel line.
They can be a pain to make, but they are tough and air tight
I may be wrong, but I believe the reusable fitting is reverse thread on outer fitting. They usually thread on easy for me. Now the fitting/inner part is always tight to start. @12:50ish
My stock 1.3 carb was a pos wouldn’t idle good, took forever to start, and sputtered a lot. I put a certified machine carb kit on it and it runs great! It doesn’t die on high angles either, didn’t even have to tune it.
I've heard great things about certified machine. If I was to stay carbed I would've tried them. Too much altitude change in my area and fuel leaking out of the gas filler and carb spillage. Propane is definitely the way to go for a rock crawled carb engine! Not so great on the street though 😬
You can propane from Most Uhaul's and usually cheaper for autos. Awesome video!
That's a good tip!
you've got a lot of great reasons for going propane, I went with the Certified Machine 3k because my Samurai almost never goes offroad, I have a Geo Tracker offroad buggy for that. But if I was wheeling my sammy a lot I could see the benefits for sure. With that said, I'll freely admit that I'm on the search for a 1.6L 8 valve.... the 1.3L hates me for running 35's lmao
Yeah I've heard a lot about the certified machine setup. Nearly went that route! 🤙🏻
I got the 1.6 8v and run on 33s and I found that a regear at the tacase or axles make up for a loss power. I have the 6.5:1 gear set for the tcase and I have pretty much all I need for daily driving and offroad/crawling. Make sure you get a cradle for the tcase too if gear to the 6.5:1 for the added stress to the case and mounts.
About carbs, I got the weber 38 flipped so it dies going on a decline. But keeping it in gear allows the engine to continue running. There's some incline 'mods' too that help, but it's still a bit tricky due to having a carb.
Looks like a nice set up. Though of switching mine. I have a built 1.3 and run the Toyota Carb. Works great wheeling. You may want to cut the center out of your manifold I did mine
It will flow alot better.👍😁
What have tou done to your 1.3?
@@FortuneOffRoad It's bored over 9.5 compression pistons the bottom end is balanced and the crank is polished. Stock head with Honda valve Springs and a rpm cam. Can't run the torque cam because of my transfer case gears. It rips!
@@guylongley1573 what Honda valve springs you using?
@@Beeflyboy87 I think they are Civic my machine shop set it all up.
@@guylongley1573 gotcha. I’ve been looking for heavier valve springs for higher revs. Thank you
that guy yelling @3:00 really freaked me out it sounded like someone was at my door, lol. anyway, yeah I might eventually do this to my samurai. I've had my engine die and not be able to restart while trying to climb something. and the gas starts leaking out the cap. I have to be pulled back down to level ground to start the engine. I really like how simple the little carb looks.
Exactly what I was going through. Hope that is remedied now! 🤘🏻
I messed something up during editing and two videos that were supposed to play only came out as audio 🤦🏼♂️😄
Did it and put the hho to it to wow 😳
Damn it Bobby
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I have 3 questions
1) Is the pressure regulated from the tank itself ? if not there can be huge risk of fire on the pipeline.
2) Can we install it like a hybrid fuel , switching from petrol to gas on the go.
3) what is the mileage per kilogram ?
Yes, the fuel is pressurized from tank pressure. I don't think hybrid would be easy (or maybe even possible) since the propane kit comes with a mixer that replaces the carburetor. 4.3 gallons for 3 days of wheeling on the Rubicon. 15mpg on a steep 71 mile drive through the mountains back to my trailer. 🤙🏻
Yep, the Weber sucks for off-road. That weber was designed for "performance" street a long time ago with no consideration made for off-road. Problem is the way the float is setup. It starts overflowing raw fuel into the engine when you start climbing. The stock Sammi carb was better for off-roading. I installed the 1.6 fuel injected engine to solve all of these problems.
1.6 would be sweet! I love the 1.3 though. I'm probably going to keep it long term and possibly turbo it
I have the got propane kit on my 1981 Toyota,,works flawlessly
1 question,I have had it on there for about a year and a half,,the solenoid for the gas turn off gets hot,
Is it supposed to get hot
And that is with it open,,
I'm not sure if that's normal or not. I've never checked mine. Have you tried asking got propane? I hear they have great customer service.
@@FortuneOffRoad sent him an email,,other than that which it ain’t blowed a fuse or anything,it’s been flawless
Great job ! Do you know the autonomy with these propane tanks ?
I'm not sure. Do you mean how they perform or the size?
Was looking at the comments and didn’t find a awnser… but how long will a tank of propane last? I’m debating on doing it but I’ll only be able to have room for one tank because I have a single bucket seat for my daughter to ride
It's all based on RPMs it seems like. If you are 1100-1500 RPMs while wheeling like I am, then you'll burn about 1/5 gallon every hour, or 1.5 gallons every 8 hours. I did the Rubicon 3 days of wheeling at slow speeds and used 4.3 gallons total. Higher RPMS and harder driving might drop that though. Driving on the highway on the way home I got about 13mpg. Hope that helps. 🤙🏻
Interesting concept, I wonder if someone makes a propane conversion for a jeep 4.0 (preferably dual fuel so I don't become stranded if I run out of propane and there isn't a fillup station nearby)?
I know it's been done, but UT would be expensive. The reason why it works so well on carburetors is because there is only one input point where the air/fuel mixes. On injected engines you would have to find a way to get the propane into the fuel rail or directly into the cylinder on newer engines.
Is the Jeep a fuel injected or Carb fed 4.0? You can get Impco gear that can fit a LPG mixer like a model 225, or if it's fuel injected, you can get a LPG Injection setup that can be fit, and you just press a switch to switch between fuels.
I have a few questions. What is the regulator set at ? How much pressure is aloud out of the tank.. I know the tank is 100-200 psi I was wondering what the bare minimum input pressure is into this kit.
Man, I wish I knew the answer to the questions but I don't. I simply put the kit on and adjusted the mixer. Here's a link to their site, a lot of information on there: www.gotpropane.com/p541.html
America first.. thumbs up 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Any chance you would sell a digital version or printed copy of the instructions manual. I’m about to install my kit and misplaced my instructions provided😢
If I remember correctly the directions weren't helpful anyways. They were a few pictures of a toyota 22R. Did you email got propane?
Do the electric fan next. Nice video
Thanks! If anything I might do the clutch delete on the fan. Who knows, maybe an electric fan would be easy too 🤷🏼♂️
The Weber carburetor float adjustment was the cause of your flooding on an incline. Also the Weber doesn't like more than 2 or 3 psi. Need an adjustable regulator.
Thanks for the info
Not sure if I missed it but how do you know your “fuel” level? Do you just have to weight the tanks every time or is it possible to have fuel gauge somehow?
The tanks have two guages. One for mount vertical, one if horizontal. Not sure how accurate. Planning on filling the used tank after every run, just like I would my gas tank.
@@FortuneOffRoad awesome! Thanks man. This channel has inspired me to buy a samurai but I can’t decide between that or a YJ lol.
@@EricBuenoo if I was gonna buy a Jeep I would get a YJ. I used to have a cool one on 40s and tons, but Samurais are really easy to build.
@@FortuneOffRoad have you seen the samurai truck they built on MotorTrend? That was an awesome build. Now that would look crazy cool on 40s! Lol
@@EricBuenoo yeah it was awesome
I used to drive propane tanker, so am... At the moment, I can get propane for 250 gallon and gasses. About $2 more, however, I need to find a conversion kit.
Forgot if you are pulling, vapor or liquid from the tanks, how are they set up?? Did I miss the cost of the whole conversion? Or did you forget to tell me that?
The kit was around $700. Kit isn't legal in California though, so no smog
Nice conversion. How can I get a kit for my subaru leone in kenya
Thanks! I'm not sure where they make one for yours, but you can buy parts on eBay
Great job 👍👌! But how much is the consum!?
Thanks dude! Hard to say, but I wheeled slow for like 20 hours on 1 tank. Gets 10% better fuel economy than gasoline.
Patagonia MT tires? If so, how do you like them?
They have been awesome! Wish they had small sizes in the 17" wheel so I could put them on my Colorado too!
I know a person that had about three cars with those conversions and now as high as gas is going I would like to learn more.
Yeah the propane is definitely cheaper and cleaner, but more inconvenient to fill up also. I have to take my tanks to a hardware store to get them refilled.
Hi where i can buy the kit
I have a meecedes 1968 dual carburetor
Thank you
Gotpropane.com, not sure if they make it for your engine, but maybe you can modify it🤙🏻
Did you adjust the timing? I believe it will start and run better on a little different timing. I forget what I set my buddy’s to when we installed.
No I didn't adjust it. It runs great now and starts up immediately. 🤘🏻
nice shirt!
What do you end up with, milage wise on 2 of those tanks?
Not sure yet. They say vs gasoline propane does 10% better at slow speeds and 10% worse at higher RPMs. These are 8 gallon tanks so I'm hoping for about the same as my 10 gallon tank on the trail. 🤙🏻
@@FortuneOffRoad cant wait to see what the results bring, hoping to start my sami journey soon.
Thanks, good luck with yours!
I have two 33-pound tanks (like what's in this video), and roughly can go about ~200 miles (~100 miles per tank). Exact mileage is hard to gauge, due to I'm never sure if the guy filling the tanks is max'n them out or not, various roads/terrain I'm driving on, and transfer case selection: 2H, 2L, 4H, 4L. So basically my "~200 mile range" is based on a mix of highway and offroad.
I did rig up some fittings so I can hook up a BBQ tank as a spare (Got Propane sells a device, which I purchased, but it's for old style tanks with fine threads, not the 'newer' course threaded safety valve fittings).
I was listening to your engine run. I believe you need to adjust your fetzer valve.
Either that or the thingy majigger.
It’s common in West Texas
Every where
You might need to adjust the timing with propane??
It's supposed to be plug and play.
@@FortuneOffRoad Yes but it's higher octane and has a cooler latent temp so you can advance the timing for better efficiency and power. Any thoughts on the kit a year in? You'd still make the swap?
@@SlainteFromFlorida still love it. Need to adjust the timing for sure!
How much is a conversion kit to propane? Thanks
$775 now, it used to be cheaper
Where did you get the tanks from
I called all of the local propane companies and found some used ones! 🤙🏻
Liquid propane going to vaporizer or just vapor?
I'm not 100% on how it works, but it gets warmed up from coolant and then into the intake manifold.
@@FortuneOffRoad looks like your lpg reducer vaporizer dont have the vacuum control just like the other versions of lpg vaporizers
You see that Myron is making a turbo kit for the propane kit?
I've only seen the zuks off road kit, is it the same thing?
@@FortuneOffRoad same thing
💪😎🇺🇲
I dont know much about lpg but does it make sense or no to convert a efi engine or ?
On their website they say don't ask about. EFI is the best way to go IMO. Propane is just a great upgrade from carburetors.
I put hundreds of these kits on back in 70 and tank in bed or trunks
as tempting as propane is i need to drive mine on the street to the mountians
Yeah, probably not ideal for you.
Use a vitara 1.6 engin :)
Yeah that would be cool
Did got propane go out of business,, and hey won’t answer email
I hope not! They were pretty fast with me. Maybe try giving them a call.
@@FortuneOffRoad I’ll try that, yea great folks,,very helpful on the install on mine
EFI that 1.3l
Gotta see how this setup goes... recently exposed to the turbo upgrade too...
@@FortuneOffRoad super charged to a mikuni 44s
@@rclifegu3574 you're a madman
legitimately 5 whole minutes before he stops talking and starts installing..... OMG!
By design! It's important to go over all of the reasons and specs of this before starting. I can't just jump straight to blindly installing. But YOU can scroll to straight to the install with no background... 🤓 just saying
@@FortuneOffRoad fair point 😁
You will have problems with altiduth heght diferences propane does not make it bether unless you actualy use high amplifier ignition system ore plasma ignition nothing ells will help that car have same problems even tought me engine is opel but still same 80s problems cars .
You need magnet alternator to run engine at low speed you need to modify flywheel and starter motor .
Propane shuld have pre warmer in winter time you will have problems with propane .
Your in deap shit if your engine use's ground ignition ore waste spark .
Propane ore any other lpg based fuel can explode so make shure that your engine is secured properly with insulation ore magnetic shilding.
Lot of those cars blew up because of safty meshures .
You probably know thats metal coffin peopel know those cars mostly because of death rate they are light weight .
Mostly I have same problems even tought I live in high moisture cold conditions so thats where propane will fail .
You should check out GotPropane.com they have a lot of info regarding this upgrade. Has been nothing but spectacular on the trail. A money saver too!
Great vid FO-R, I enjoy seeing your work, and come away learning something each time.
Pic of my propane setup: jgp1.com/images/CarStuff/SammieTanks.jpg
I made a little box around my tanks. Eventual plan is to cover it in sheet metal (did that once already, but used more square stock and 20 gauge sheet metal and it turned outWAY too heavy). Anywho, I'll eventually seal it up (and seal to the floor), gravity vent out the old gas tank filler hole. Also with the containment box I'll make a flip-up door, and install the tank brackets on 500lbs heavy duty drawer sliders that'll extend out 3', making tank removal/install a breeze. ...all are part of my life's "one of these days I'll get around to..." plan.
I LOVE the propane swap, other than the occasional headache finding convenient fueling stations.
Your box setup over the tanks looks great! I'm going to need something along those lines soon. I really need to maximize space though. Long trips require a lot of gear! 🤙🏻