Actually it's swearing in Public. If someone in Public hear you but their has to be people about. You can do it out in the open as long as its not heard by anyone. Plus if it's to the officer it doesn't count. Police arnt classed as public
@@darrenedwards5051: It has been ruled in court that the police have a higher tolerance to anti social words, and therefore cannot be offended themselves by swearing, unless a member of the public is within earshot of those words. High court ruling.
@@darrenedwards5051I suggest you check yours first. A officer cannot make a public order complaint for himself, a member of the public has to have heard it. When on duty police officers are not classed as “public”. Imagine being so confidently wrong.
Any officer who fabricated evidence to facilitate an arrest should be dismissed. He could have asked the sargent to come out and make the accusation to him.
100% and get jail time when caught doing it in court, and I have seen it (Case dismissed after a Judge couldn't ignore the inconsistencies) lies is what he meant
Or he could have just watched the video as was offered. But that would mean his details gathering would have been compromised so he refused that option. He should be punished but no way will he be. They're corrupt and see it as us against them as we the public do.
The liar should be personally fined a minimum of £1 million.. And the pig who forced him to give his ID when he could have seen the evidence. But refused to should be sacked and also heavily fined.
Any Arrest under Section 50 or Section 43 must automatically go to Police Conduct Authority for investigation to ensure the Police action was legal and then apologise on TV if the Police were wrong example a female police should not search a male when there uniformed males available the Police always complain about why the Public dislikes and mistrusts us two reasons the blatant use of sections 43 and 40 against people with cameras for a start we are not the enemy
Police officers telling lies to make a arrest i hope this man will take further action against these corrupt police officers and a police officer a woman police officer telling lies what a disgrace these corrupt police officers in this day and age
Their is a website for offences like this, he act without convention right, swearing in public in a common law right and obligated not be be invoked by police.
Typical standard of detaining you without detaining you. The reason they don't want to answer that question is because they know legally they have no grounds to detain you. They have to have reasonable suspicion that a crime has taken place.
What was the conclusion ? Did you ultimately give your name and details or did you walk off without disclosing these ? Did you set up a formal complaint or lawsuit ?
It should be more than a 1,000 I would actualy be taking them to court and exposing the lies in court for all to see, they are breaking the law by lying and getting details unjustifiably.
LEGALS "POTENTIALLY you're committing an offence"... "you're potentially detained"... meaningless word salad. From an officer who refuses to examine the evidence. legal crap.
I don't know until I speak to you, said the copper! Quote Pace Code A 2.9 Reasonable grounds for suspicion however cannot be provided retrospectively by such questioning during a persons detention or by refusal to answer any questions asked.
Does not want to see the evidence, isnt that part of the investigation, only reasonable grounds of suspicion, so basically wasting time and tax payers money, only going by what another person said, so in fact anyone can accuse anyone and they will get their details BS, I do hope you sued them, I can imagine female officer will not write a statement stating you verbally abused her because you have it on camera and that will be perjury, male officer will be hung out to dry and thrown under the bus by colleague 😊
2020 a man attacked me inside of my home, I am a 50 year old disabled man in need of abdominal surgery, the police ignored his finger prints, boot prints, and my Cctv. No action taken against him, I was arrested for defending myself inside of my kitchen. This happened in Lancashire.
If there were no members of the public around then it wouldn't be an offence anyway. No details should be given without actual arrest. BTW, if obtaining details had been his real reason for arrest, he would have had to de-arrest as soon as he got them - the payout would be much higher.
Also it's worth noting the police cannot be the complainant for a public order offence. This was because the police were abusing the law as they could claim literally anything you said or did was offensive and could then arrest you.
Hearsay isn't reasonable suspicion of an offence being committed. I would have said, as a policeman. To the off duty officer. You deal with it, if he's sworn at you. As I can't be sure he has.
I thought a police officer could not be the complaintif it has to be a member of the public that makes the complaint .Making it a public order offence ?
Doesn’t want to see the video that would either prove or disprove the grounds. What a genius? It is little wonder people think they are not fit for purpose but just 💩for brains. Now for a payout which will tie up resources and cost a great deal more than £1000. The resources could have been used in doing real police work.😂😂😂😂
You should have asked him outright to confirm that he is wilfully refusing to look at the objective evidence that your video contains, and that he is relying solely on the hearsay evidence that another cop had given, and that is solely in order to violate your rights and force you to identify himself. That gives him no wiggle space when it comes to a complaint or a court hearing. It is obvious that he knows that your video evidence will prove that the other cop was lying.
The offence of swearing, ever get the feeling your taxes are wasted. Look how he investigates the feelings of his fellow officer while speaking in riddles. He is always too busy for the burglary at the grandads care home.
This constant use of the terrorist act just to get a name and address and this threat of an offence to to squeeze a person's name and address no wonder public are paying out taxes for this lack of knowledge
All he had to do was watch the video but he'd rather lie and abuse his 'powers', and they wonder why they've gone from being respected to being despised.
This officer is just like the rest. He claims he has reasonable grounds to demand details based on what he claims the sergeant said to him yet refuses to see the video which would have cleared the whole matter up, either way, which may have enabled you to walk away without giving said details. There is a clear case here for compensation and for this officer to be punished accordingly. It's doubtful he will be punished though as they are trained to be "details vultures".
If your being verbally abusive??? An officer cannot be offended. Isn't labeling someone as a terrorist verbally abusive base of no facts ??? But just a lie and coercion in order to hard sell to public by a commercial contractor?
I appears that the policeman is trying to get the 'suspect' so wound up that he does give a reason for arrest ? I'm not sure I could keep my cool under that situation ? I guess it's all part of their training ? They don't even put their hats on ? I'm sure the police have to do so ? I know they used to do it.
I would sued the first police and this last one because he didn’t do a complete investigation, you offered him to see the video and he just didn’t care. He is not doing his job. Make two complains.
Example of police never letting evidence getting in the way of abusing their powers.
What a waste of everyone's time..... Get a life.... 🤔
I can recognise all terrorists and I wouldn't need a whole police station of muppets to do it!
Well said
STOP ENGAGING HIM. His reason for arresting you is the testimony of a colleague. It's his move.
He needs sacking
you can't sack him he's sackless !!!
Swearing at a cop is not an offence and she should be sacked and sued.
Yes it is you can't swear at anyone check your facts
@@darrenedwards5051 wrong
Actually it's swearing in Public. If someone in Public hear you but their has to be people about. You can do it out in the open as long as its not heard by anyone. Plus if it's to the officer it doesn't count. Police arnt classed as public
@@darrenedwards5051: It has been ruled in court that the police have a higher tolerance to anti social words, and therefore cannot be offended themselves by swearing, unless a member of the public is within earshot of those words. High court ruling.
@@darrenedwards5051I suggest you check yours first.
A officer cannot make a public order complaint for himself, a member of the public has to have heard it.
When on duty police officers are not classed as “public”.
Imagine being so confidently wrong.
Any officer who fabricated evidence to facilitate an arrest should be dismissed. He could have asked the sargent to come out and make the accusation to him.
100% and get jail time when caught doing it in court, and I have seen it (Case dismissed after a Judge couldn't ignore the inconsistencies) lies is what he meant
Or he could have just watched the video as was offered. But that would mean his details gathering would have been compromised so he refused that option. He should be punished but no way will he be. They're corrupt and see it as us against them as we the public do.
Every video like this just reinforces the feelings of distrust and hatred towards the police.
Police is an anagram of Scumbags.
They talk like robots
The liar should be personally fined a minimum of £1 million..
And the pig who forced him to give his ID when he could have seen the evidence. But refused to should be sacked and also heavily fined.
Why didnt the female police officer arrest him if he swore at her???????
Standard procedure is to act unlawfully.
He's just digging a very large hole everytime he mentions arrest for non ID. Abuse of power in abundance! (He's twisting his OWN words!)
SGT doesn’t even want to see the recording because he doesn’t want to back down on the decision he’s already made
And since evidence was available to him that he refused to look at, his suspicions were not reasonable.
Any Arrest under Section 50 or Section 43 must automatically go to Police Conduct Authority for investigation to ensure the Police action was legal and then apologise on TV if the Police were wrong example a female police should not search a male when there uniformed males available
the Police always complain about why the Public dislikes and mistrusts us two reasons the blatant use of sections 43 and 40 against people with cameras for a start we are not the enemy
And criminal abuse of public order laws (and actually not understanding them)
He should never of given details, take the arrest and sue for more , he not willing to see evidence proves he don’t want to see truth
Police officers telling lies to make a arrest i hope this man will take further action against these corrupt police officers and a police officer a woman police officer telling lies what a disgrace these corrupt police officers in this day and age
Never give your details sue them
That was copper bingo. It went from sec 43), to sec 4(a) . Eyes down- here we go.😅
ID is like crack to these clowns . Let him arrest you then sue his lying a$$
Pee off is not swearing it’s telling them to go away. The police person is talking CRAP he is wrong.
I would say arrest the female cop for misconduct & for lying
Smirking from the start of his conversation ,
Useless cop doesn't know the law
He's taks about terrorists me thinks he'd have more luck finding them if he started with his bosses.
That officer who lied should be sacked, this is our police today . Disgusting behaviour.bring them to account retired lifeboatman
Their is a website for offences like this, he act without convention right, swearing in public in a common law right and obligated not be be invoked by police.
Typical standard of detaining you without detaining you.
The reason they don't want to answer that question is because they know legally they have no grounds to detain you. They have to have reasonable suspicion that a crime has taken place.
That's 4 minutes I'll never get back.
What would you do with those 4 minutes if you could get them back?
@@OhHeyItsLeeGaming Do something more productive. Like watching paint dry. Or, being a keen gardener, watch the grass grow. Have a great life.
@@OhHeyItsLeeGaming Watch a better one?
@@robba1234 and how would you know it's a better one, are you psychic?, if so give us next weeks lottery numbers 😀😀
Awww diddums....
no crime, no ID.
If ya gona play the game.Take the arrest
FOXTROT OSCAR comes to mind.
They dont care because its not them that pay.
What was the conclusion ? Did you ultimately give your name and details or did you walk off without disclosing these ? Did you set up a formal complaint or lawsuit ?
There are some really good professional police officers out there I met one last night traffic cop name James Thank you sir ❤❤❤
It should be more than a 1,000 I would actualy be taking them to court and exposing the lies in court for all to see, they are breaking the law by lying and getting details unjustifiably.
Told by a fellow officer...yeah....! right ....😅
Should of taken the arrest!
LEGALS
"POTENTIALLY you're committing an offence"... "you're potentially detained"... meaningless word salad. From an officer who refuses to examine the evidence. legal crap.
They make me sick...they wouldn't be so keen to unlawfully arrest if the fines came out of their pockets.
Why is Mr Potato head so familiar 😂😂😂.
Very good so needed in this day and age of double standard policing. New sub
This is why they cost the public purse millions in compensation claims each year.
I don't know until I speak to you, said the copper! Quote Pace Code A 2.9 Reasonable grounds for suspicion however cannot be provided retrospectively by such questioning during a persons detention or by refusal to answer any questions asked.
Too late he’s got your nome !
"You do not have to say anything " ring any bells ???
Proof of NK-policing !!!
Stolen video from News Now Yorkshire
Does not want to see the evidence, isnt that part of the investigation, only reasonable grounds of suspicion, so basically wasting time and tax payers money, only going by what another person said, so in fact anyone can accuse anyone and they will get their details BS, I do hope you sued them, I can imagine female officer will not write a statement stating you verbally abused her because you have it on camera and that will be perjury, male officer will be hung out to dry and thrown under the bus by colleague 😊
This sounds like Michael ,news now Yorkshire he always caves in and gives details 😂
Straight from the Hermann Goring school of policing!!!
A British police officer lying!!!!! Wow! Who’d have thought?
I was under the impression that hear say was not grounds for arrest.
2020 a man attacked me inside of my home, I am a 50 year old disabled man in need of abdominal surgery, the police ignored his finger prints, boot prints, and my Cctv.
No action taken against him, I was arrested for defending myself inside of my kitchen.
This happened in Lancashire.
Your evidence trumps his suspicion but alas they didn't want to see it.
Is this the latest shrek movie,? Fabulous actor. Knows all his lines!
If there were no members of the public around then it wouldn't be an offence anyway. No details should be given without actual arrest. BTW, if obtaining details had been his real reason for arrest, he would have had to de-arrest as soon as he got them - the payout would be much higher.
Corrupt as.
1:32 all the police do is lie
I have heard police shout the 'F' word at citizens.
DO NOT WATCH THIS - THERE IS NO ENDING ! ! ! !
Wos 🤦♂️😡 Are these people really police ?🤦♂️
Id have took the arrest
Also it's worth noting the police cannot be the complainant for a public order offence. This was because the police were abusing the law as they could claim literally anything you said or did was offensive and could then arrest you.
police dont count as "public"
Really, all of the law and order problems we have, this pathetic police officer decides to waste tax payers money arguing and threatening.
Its only a prick, a small prick but it can potentially ruin your life .......
Oh my god!! What a mess this is!!
Hearsay isn't reasonable suspicion of an offence being committed. I would have said, as a policeman. To the off duty officer. You deal with it, if he's sworn at you. As I can't be sure he has.
He should be sacked......
I thought a police officer could not be the complaintif it has to be a member of the public that makes the complaint .Making it a public order offence ?
Take the arrest and keep quiet. All he wants is your details. Otherwise, he'd want to see the video
Doesn’t want to see the video that would either prove or disprove the grounds. What a genius? It is little wonder people think they are not fit for purpose but just 💩for brains. Now for a payout which will tie up resources and cost a great deal more than £1000. The resources could have been used in doing real police work.😂😂😂😂
Why would they let solid evidence get in the way of a good story......
Should have held out for the arrest
Not another cop telling lies. Wow, who would have believed it 😮😮
You should have asked him outright to confirm that he is wilfully refusing to look at the objective evidence that your video contains, and that he is relying solely on the hearsay evidence that another cop had given, and that is solely in order to violate your rights and force you to identify himself. That gives him no wiggle space when it comes to a complaint or a court hearing.
It is obvious that he knows that your video evidence will prove that the other cop was lying.
That copper is so full of shit yet again ego power trip dosent know the law
Liar liar liar
Don’t give them your details , take the arrest then sue the gang members
The offence of swearing, ever get the feeling your taxes are wasted. Look how he investigates the feelings of his fellow officer while speaking in riddles. He is always too busy for the burglary at the grandads care home.
Whoever is responsible for the subtitles is committing an offence against the English language !!!!😂
This constant use of the terrorist act just to get a name and address and this threat of an offence to to squeeze a person's name and address no wonder public are paying out taxes for this lack of knowledge
Folded like a cheap deckchair.
Suspect or suspicion is NOT a crime .
All he had to do was watch the video but he'd rather lie and abuse his 'powers', and they wonder why they've gone from being respected to being despised.
Police can't be offended under police under a public order offence
Evidence on your camera and he is not interested in investigating, unbelievable surreal.
This officer is just like the rest. He claims he has reasonable grounds to demand details based on what he claims the sergeant said to him yet refuses to see the video which would have cleared the whole matter up, either way, which may have enabled you to walk away without giving said details. There is a clear case here for compensation and for this officer to be punished accordingly. It's doubtful he will be punished though as they are trained to be "details vultures".
If your being verbally abusive??? An officer cannot be offended. Isn't labeling someone as a terrorist verbally abusive base of no facts ??? But just a lie and coercion in order to hard sell to public by a commercial contractor?
PARANOIA OFF THE CHARTS !!
Tell them you do not understand and walk away.
How does the giving of your name and address equate to proving that you have committed an offence.
Telling a copper to piss off is not an offence. Public order doesn't cover the old bill clues in the name PUBLIC.
Mummy will be so pleased you got attention
"Potentially". What a plonker. This copper is an embarrassment to his employer, ie, joe public.
Should not have given your details .
Matt Lucas. Well almost, certainly knows how to act like a clown
To be fair, he did say “potentially”… you should have continued along those lines
I appears that the policeman is trying to get the 'suspect' so wound up that he does give a reason for arrest ? I'm not sure I could keep my cool under that situation ? I guess it's all part of their training ? They don't even put their hats on ? I'm sure the police have to do so ? I know they used to do it.
I would sued the first police and this last one because he didn’t do a complete investigation, you offered him to see the video and he just didn’t care. He is not doing his job. Make two complains.
You engaged with them too much stay silent stay alert!
You should not have given your details. Let them arrest you and let them deal with it