Foreign skilled worker perspective here: I am about the type of immigrant you describe (and I say am an immigrant, not an expat as they are the same thing) oversized fiscal contribution (just the visa fees and NHS surcharge make me go beyond the AVG British adult). I thing the point you miss is the perception that people have of the UK immigration system: They don't realise how complex and expensive it is for immigrants to get the right to live and work in the UK. (I'm only doing it because of my British wife). When I tell people how much I struggled, the costs, the wrong advice from the home office., etc. They cannot believe it. And what they don't realise either is that when the government tries to reduce the number of immigrants, it is going after people like me, by doubling income threshold, increasing charges, etc. Because the levers to reduce our numbers are very obvious and simple. Not like the ones for illegal immigration or refugees, which are much more complex. So when they reduce immigration overall they actually disproportionately reduce the positive economic impacts of migration because they go after the people who contribute the most. It's like shooting yourself in the foot but with one foot above the other so the bullet goes through both feet.
It's insane the amount of hoops you have to jump through; it's also insane how little knowledge people have of any of it. To exacerbate things further, you're relentlessly vilified by certain corners of the media who shamelessly propagate narratives built on things that simply aren't true. As a born and bred UK national, I can only apologise for the amount of hatred presently coursing through the veins of this society we share. You also raise a very pertinent point about the drive to tackle immigration targeting entirely the wrong people.
I entirely agree with you. I came here on a global talent visa to do research and I even brought with me a grant that pays for my research and my salary. I will move out next year due to anti immigration policies and atmosphere in the UK. It is already difficult to attract international talents to work here but the government makes things worse.
You are unaware of just how bad our multiple industries are suffering from labour shortages. Companies are going to Nigeria and Philippines and others to actively recruit care staff so care homes can stay open. Many refugees from war zones do go into medical training,or engineering because those are essential skills for return when possible.
Care agencies should stop creaming off vast profits at the expense of quality of care and carers wages. It is not for nothing that care agencies are owned by investment companies and hedge fund groups. @@RobertThomson-y4m
I'm a skilled English worker who is currently economically inactive and living on benefits as I go through chemotherapy and try to survive my potentially life ending cancer. The treatment is 90% administered by immigrant nurses, whom I'm very grateful for
O'Brien's monologues are often rambling and full of out of context stats but this one is confused and rather nonsensical. I guess he hasn't listened to the Labour leadership declaring that immigtation target is 2.5 millon, that they are going to build 1.5 million homes yet, as Rayner has recently said there is no housing crisis in the UK!
James ignores anything he can't berate people on. It truly is his ego talking at this point. He pretends to be righteous, but really, he just wants to bash somebody, so he is right. His book says it all about who he is.
It's quite simple when we have hotels being used to house people, then yeah, we have an influx problem dont you agree? I do like how people who have jobs and have not been in the competitive market for low skilled work say oh we dont have a problem.
James, if 60 million immigrants were allowed in, at what point do you stop saying ‘we need an honest conversation’ and just accept there is a tipping point. And stop conflating immigration with illegal immigration. James, when’s your wedding day with Kier?
But that's almost the population of the UK mate, no one is suggesting that. Not even the most liberal politicians. He did not discuss some other key data points which was disappointing, but he wasn't exactly singing Kier's praises
Ironic considering there's been a coordinated effort from the right to conflate legal immigration with illegal. How many times do we have to hear about boats and hotels?
@HarryNottings 'I took my dog with me to the beach the other day. He wouldn't come back in from the sea, he wouldn't listen to be. I said 'be careful you'll end up in one of them boats'' I am surprised this women is trusted to cut hair.
For the statistic to be at all relevant you have to know the report's definition of "skilled worker". If it only includes highly paid professionals then it's stating the obvious. I wish journalists would dig a little deeper when dispensing such statistics.
Legal immigration for genuine refugees or skilled labour isn’t something people have a problem with. Boat loads of men breaking the law to just get here is not ok. It’s illegal!!!! Even if James supports it. Does not make it right I’m afraid
@@chrisgcolling it is okay if you are unsure like a goo dboy you asked so i will educate you. You said you do not have a problem with skilled labour or genuine refugees. Over the last 6 years the boat crossings have been 25k per year on average. Even if you consider a 60% genuine rate out of that (actual figure is around 80%) that means 40% are not genuine refugees and therefore on average 10k non geniuine refugees. Hope this helps.
The annual SIZE of immigration intake into many countries, not just the UK, is massively challenging the capacity to cope with providing all social needs for all civilians. Populations are being played with by the media and certain others to say the issue is racism. It's cruel and unnecessary. The issue for all these governments is not stopping immigration outright.
the first time i heard james speak i found him abrasive but quite intimidating in an argument. now i realise he's just a sophist. it's really quite sad. he's a middle-aged man who will intentionally lie because he has a pathological need to always win an argument
@nigelsynnott7344yeah he lied about illegals in four star hotels. And many other things . And in-fact he has ninety something ofcom complaints against him for lying.
I think if most people thought Starmer & his cronies were going take money from the old people they would not be in power now. These people started work around 15teen or 16teen. Today you be lucky if they started work at 20 . By the way pensioners get £220 per week to live on . Most of you would spend that on a night out.
@@MarkStringman I wonder how many people who complain about potholes have grabbed a wheelbarrow full of mastic asphalt and fixed them themselves? I wonder how many people who complain about staffing levels at their local hospital have put on a pair of latex gloves and voluntarily administered a round of bed-baths? I'd assume not many. It's almost as if it's not the responsibility of individual private citizens to take on the obligations of governments, isn't it?
Get out in the real world James and see how many "skilled workers" are coming And then talk to a British skilled worker about the new person from overseas coming to do his job cheaper
I am an industrial maintenance fitter. I did my apprenticeship at MG Rover Longbridge and was there until the factory closed. I left the UK in 2008. Work in Queensland at various places. Plenty of work here, and I get approached for work these days. Last few years I have earned on average $150k. £75k. On days shifts with a little overtime. From what I have seen I would not make that in the UK. My wife is in a senior office administration on around $90k £45k. My son is an avionics engineer now, he was 10 when we left uk. My daughter is a registered nurse working towards her masters. She is on double the NHS nurses doing 4 of 8 hour shifts a week. The skills drain works the other way too.
7:50 Hating on Romanians is a somewhat popular dog whistle for people aligned with a *certain* right wing ideology because Romania switched sides in 1944 and joined the UN against the Axis.
James is honestly the worst broadcaster on LBC and the perfect example of what's wrong with the UK actually he really shouldn't be allowed to spread his nonsense on the radio at all!!!!
No if's, no buts, Reform's success or failure over the next five years depends on what Labour does with immigration. We saw what happened in America when the Dem's stuck their fingers in their ears and it'll happen here.
It's forecasted to drop to pre-Brexit levels, as long as they better optimise it in the national interest it's illegal immigration that they'd need to get a hand on. In any case I disagree, it's the state of the NHS that will decide 2029-- if the NHS project appears to be a failure/unworkable then pro-privatisation Reform UK will have an open path.
So 'many' called the summer disturbances 'the farage riots' did they? No, it was only you that called them that O'brien. Now you're obviously trying to backtrack
Low skilled immigration is damaging the economy according to the OBR, high skill or even average skill immigration is a net benefit. This is ignoring the cultural impact
@@GRIMVEL imagine eating foreign food, driving a foreign car, watching foreign tv shows on a foreign tv drinking a foreign beer and then crying over cultural impact 😂 that Alex guy isn't the brightest spark
@@jacky5768 None of that are really big impacts on culture are they though. I have never been to Thailand and went well it has USA culture now because it has a McDonalds. Have you been to USA, it feels culturally different to UK, you been to different European countries they also all feel culturally different, despite all having all those things you mentioned above. To reduce culture to those things you mentioned is nonsense and you know it.
Hum ... subtle. I would say, you're an expat if you're paid for living abroad ( _ex a Export Manager, a Finance Specialist, Corporate or Merger Lawyer ect_ ). If not, I think Expat is a derogatory term in public. Gives the notion you would rather be back some other place than here and there; it translates the feeling that you still don't know if it was your own finite choice to live in another Country or not and many other intuitive negative vibes. If you were the son or daughter of a foreign parent you would never say : - " _oh, I speak a second language because my mom is an expat_ ". You would rather be encouraged to say : - " _my mom was born in .... she is ..., she taught me my second language_ " Just saying.
easy.....an ex pat is what someone from a country calls another person from their country when they now dwell outside of that country. An immigrant is someone who has moved into a country from another. A person can be both an expat and an immigrant depending on whether they are being referred to by someone who is from the same country as them, or whether they are being referred to by someone from the country they now live in. its like I'm 'Dad' but not to everyone. People can be referred to differently depending on who's referring to them, it's nothing bigoted, its just a matter of perspective.
Its curious its only the West that argues for mass (usually unskilled) immigration, other countries with worse demographics such as Japan have not rushed to replicate our experiment. Why?
Canadian over here… Am I right to say that this Labour government is not panning out as hoped? The previous Tory stint was a dumpster fire, but it seems like this Labour government is roasting marshmallows on it…
😂😂😂 pretty much bang on mate. I wouldn't take any notice of James, he speaks for about 0.1% of England. Although he's managed to get us to Brexit, get Boris to become PM, Nigel Farage an MP, make reform popular and was in melt down because trump won.. basically whatever he says the opposite is gonna happen.
Labour are not doing fine at all. Completely corrupt.. taking donations while calling out the Tories, they're all the same and Raynor sounds as thick as muck
Most of that nine million are not living on benefits, having been able to take early retirement. Bear in mind there are less than eight hundred and fifty million job vacancies and this number is diminishing daily.
In most people's homes, outsiders are really not the major issue on a day-to-day basis. No, it's usually upbringing, education, opportunities to make friends and lasting/meaningful relationships, figuring out what to do for a living, figuring out what to do outside of work and so much more. But no, please continue spinning in circles over something that will have non-zero direct effect on one's personal life. ☕
The number of what the media report as 'immigration' is totally the wrong metric here.. in my humble view it only tells half the story. Yes it is important and we can't downplay it, but only relects on negative perception of a section of the general public to fit their narrative. There must be another metric that displays the other side of the proverbial coin.. reflecting benefits and skills that immigration brings... even better if we're able to report how well those skills fill the gaps we have in our public services, such as the NHS, Education etc.. Should this exist and be given 'airtime', it would raise awareness and ultimately educate us all!
I could share my house with one 'skilled worker' and make a bit on the side. I could share my house with 20 'skilled workers' and make a fortune. Am I missing something ?
He compares a skilled worker from overseas with and AVERAGE uk citizen. Why are you deliberately and disingenuously comparing apples and oranges??......why not also compare the skilled brit with the the average immigrant? to get some sort of fair comparison. You're effectively comparing skilled people with the average person, OF COURSE you will see a massive disparity in in net fiscal impact. On top of this, who are you actually arguing against? Who is talking about stopping 'useful' and 'legal' immigration?
The will of the voter has already been shown through previous elections. 2016 referendum and 2019 GE. They were ignored and therefore the turnouts since have dropped and apathy risen. Now the momentum is with reform UK.
@HarryNottings He explicitly and repeatedly asked for the reliable, credible information from the authorities. Being aware of rumours and unsubstantiated claims and reporting of their existence (and adding that he didn't believe any of it) is not 'spreading misinformation' as you imply.
@HarryNottings The point Farage made was completely valid. If the government do not provide information it gives the impression there is something to hide and others may fill that vacuum for their own reasons. He said there appeared to be an impression the public were being kept in the dark, which given the Welsh Christian perpetrator had chemical substances and proscribed terrorism group literature he may of had a point.
Let's start publishing which specific nations from overseas. Let's not pretend that the socio-economic impact of a Swiss migrant is the same as one from Somalia.
All for immigration as and where the country needs it. Hospitality, farms, NHS all spring to mind. However, the governments own figures predict a net migration over the next 10 years of 3.5million people (350,000 a year). I don't understand why people aren't talking about this its always ignored but that means we need to build a city the size of Birmingham in the next 10years just to house these people (assuming the average household size of 2.4 people). It's just practically impossible to build a city of that size in 10years to house these people and no one is talking about it.
Immigration is capitalism importing an OVER SUPPLY of labour in, which is a race to the bottom particularly for the working class. Oligarchs love immigration. Capitalism will never invest in training, robotics or increase pay and conditions if it can just fly in labour. Back in the day the Left understood this, even Bernie Sanders was anti immigration. GDP per cap/ head is DOWN
That's the problem, we need an honest discussion about what the country needs. Splitting out foreign students that bring in billions, medics that we can't do without, etc. Need to discuss how much more taxes rise for UK nationals if we lose the economic benefit of immigration. How much more tax you have to pay personally for every 100,000 fewer immigrant workers might focus the mind.
4:13 do you honestly think these figures make sense, you’re comparing a few highly paid skilled workers salaries average 60k (doctors, scientists,nurses) with the average uk salary of 35k… then including those who don’t pay taxes from a salary… you sausage
So Starmers Labour refuses to give the waspi women the money they're entitled to and take the winter fuel allowance off pensioners in this country. While giving billions of our money to other countries. Hope whoever voted labour are proud of themselves now
Thanks James, listening to this has reassured me that I am sane. I have so many people around me who have been labour bashing from day one, and I keep saying you must give them a chance, it is too early to call it as to whether their policies will succeed, and at least they're not stealing our tax money for phony PPI contracts. I agree entirely on thecquestion of immigration, it needs proper control and public re-education. We've already seen many effects of the 'what happens if people stop coming' in the disappearance of trained medical staff to the lack of agricultural workers. Birth rates are going down whilst people are living longer in old age. Countries will soon be competing for fit & able immigrants to join their work forces, and Britain will be the last place they want to come.
I'm wondering whether O'Brien and Farage are actually in cahoots and this is one big cover up as he's so obsessed, jealous and frankly ridiculous. Would be a genius move. Surely this guy can't be serious with these comments.
Why in the interests of fairness dont channels like this one balance things out and highlight the negatives of immigration instead of just the positives then perhaps the people on opposite sides might discuss the pros and cons of it rather than just insulting each other and that includes the presenters as well because they can also be very insulting towards people
And there you have it. James O'Brien and any news outlets are really in the business of division. James is ruled by his ego. He must always be right, hence why he never debates any other top-tier debaters. He only cares about having the moral high ground. This much is true by observation. His book tells all. P.S. I agree with you with all my being.
It’s a perspective thing, you’ll hear them rage against ‘populists’ like Farage… but the opposite of populism is elitism, and from that perspective you don’t need to understand you just need to accept that what’s being done is what’s best for you (as determined by the elite - elitism).
@@brettyates7054 You seem to have made the mistake of categorising Farage as outside of and opposing the elite, whereas in reality, he is one of the leading figures in that demographic.
@ and that’s absolutely fine, but populist-elite? Those are opposites and regardless of which you think he’s faking and which is true he can only be one or the other, either he’s promising people what they want (genuinely or not - populist) or he’s promising them what they need regardless of what they want (elitist). If you’re making some point about his involving himself with rich business tycoons then that’s not either, you’re talking about oligarchy. These aren’t new concepts, they were discussed at the founding of democracy, they knew the problems with populists and they knew the problems with elites and devoted much time to solving for each… I can tell you now the people who founded democracy tended towards elites however their descriptions of what a positive elite should be look nothing like what they envisioned.
@@joskowal3711 if you don’t think that there are people running around the UK that the government don’t know about then You’re just as deluded as James living in this other reality he talks about.
@@CaptainNorthernMan You're misinformed. Asylum seekers can ofcourse give a false name. The vast majority of the undocumented population is people who have overstayed their visas-- the government therefore knows who they are but it's a tracking nightmare.
These skilled immigrants who are contributing 20x a Brit, are they not going to use the NHS? At retirement age, are they going to leave the UK or will they stick around to collect their pension?
People have to pay a surcharge to get access to the NHS. The report clearly shows contributions vs costs. Fact is it takes about 50000k (from their data) for people under 19... then they become marginal net contributors. The fact is, people making those contributions are wealthier individuals due to their jobs/skills, so they may use the NHS but probably have contributed a significant amount to the costs incurred. Or like many wealthier people, they may use private healthcare. But no one in the UK ever suggests a UK born person in need should not have access to healthcare. I'd imagine the state pension will be abolished by the time millennials get there, but even so, better paid jobs give individuals opportunities to get build better pensions. So perhaps they will still be net contributors for much of their retirement too,
GDP per cap/ head is DOWN. No system will invest in training, robotics or increase pay and conditions if it can just fly in labour. Its a race to the bottom
@@evolassunglasses4673 There is a minimum wage you know? Blame the employers who choose to employ workers for less than a minimum wage, not those that need it. It is a race to the bottom, but for different reasons than you think.
@mrfrisky6501 recent events suggest that political parties that bang on about immigration all the time have demonstrably been very poor at controlling it. I'd rather have a party that focuses on the solutions, and if immigration is a subset of the push factors on our quality of life, then I'll entrust the party to solve the problem. It would be foolish to follow the white noise.
Read the report, because even this description by James has left out important context within the figures. He is referring to a graph so it will be easy to see the data missing in this discription.
And James has the cheek to call others grifters. Before labour got in he was literally criticising the conservatives for not getting immigration under control.
Immigration needs to be brought under control. Too much burden on infrastructure. A nation needs to build its country and infrastructure by mobilising its own population. It just needs a bit of thought and planning. Not brining out blunt arguments in favour of or against immigration
I’m a skilled worker from the UK now overseas. Blair didn’t want us…. and the younger generation want tic toc. That’s why you can’t build houses, drive trucks or fit a plug lol 😂
It’s very unlikely you’re a skilled worker but glad that you’ve left. You’ve got a very weak understanding of the issues faced by the UK. We have too many corrupt individuals in every sector.
@@CEO786 I learned my craft as a master builder, I have built my own beach hotel, from plans to finish here in Thailand. If building houses is not a skill tell me what is and why the UK can’t build any?
@@jonahspiper Your comment seems to me to be an honest one. I don’t think you’re making it up just for the sake of it. It’s not that the U.K. can’t build any housing, for God’s sake, it’s just recently in the past 3 decades that the proverbial hit the fan. Reasons- 1. An unprecedented population explosion thanks to uncontrolled immigration which the U.K. government did not expect, did underestimate and actively encouraged for the sake of gdp statistics. So this created a huge housing crisis. 2. A numerous and preposterous amount of rules & regulations that hindered residential development, housing planning and permits. 3. Everything cost more times as much to build anything in the U.K. than most other places in continental Europe, definitely 4-5 times as much as it costs in Thailand. 4. The NIMBY stance. As in not in my backyard refusing any construction work near one’s own property
The english apprenticeship system is seriously flawed since the reforms from the tories in about 2017. It does favour younger people in terms of educational opportunity, but that is due to low pay conditions being acceptable. There are few employment protections in place, including allowing apprentices to be made redundant without the company being in financial difficulty. It's troublesome because it allows for exploitation of apprentices, for them just to be made redundant 2/3rds of the way in, with no qualifications to show for it. So yes, reforming skills training and possibly school funding models (ie ppl going to uni provide funding to the school), could help to create a more adaptive workforce. Or certainly create a generation which can begin careers and then decide later if they require/desire university.
We don't have enough UK nationals to train. Many jobs take years before one is skilled e.g. medics for 7 years. What are we supposed to do for medics for 7 years?! If we discourage immigrant medics then it will make the NHS massively worse...
Foreign skilled worker perspective here:
I am about the type of immigrant you describe (and I say am an immigrant, not an expat as they are the same thing) oversized fiscal contribution (just the visa fees and NHS surcharge make me go beyond the AVG British adult).
I thing the point you miss is the perception that people have of the UK immigration system:
They don't realise how complex and expensive it is for immigrants to get the right to live and work in the UK. (I'm only doing it because of my British wife).
When I tell people how much I struggled, the costs, the wrong advice from the home office., etc. They cannot believe it.
And what they don't realise either is that when the government tries to reduce the number of immigrants, it is going after people like me, by doubling income threshold, increasing charges, etc. Because the levers to reduce our numbers are very obvious and simple. Not like the ones for illegal immigration or refugees, which are much more complex.
So when they reduce immigration overall they actually disproportionately reduce the positive economic impacts of migration because they go after the people who contribute the most.
It's like shooting yourself in the foot but with one foot above the other so the bullet goes through both feet.
are you a moldovan bricklayer?
Are you an Uber driver?
It's insane the amount of hoops you have to jump through; it's also insane how little knowledge people have of any of it. To exacerbate things further, you're relentlessly vilified by certain corners of the media who shamelessly propagate narratives built on things that simply aren't true.
As a born and bred UK national, I can only apologise for the amount of hatred presently coursing through the veins of this society we share.
You also raise a very pertinent point about the drive to tackle immigration targeting entirely the wrong people.
@@guacamolewindow448 are you a presenter on lbc?
I entirely agree with you. I came here on a global talent visa to do research and I even brought with me a grant that pays for my research and my salary. I will move out next year due to anti immigration policies and atmosphere in the UK. It is already difficult to attract international talents to work here but the government makes things worse.
James O’Brien is a rich boy, who doesn’t understand the real world.
Interested to hear your ideas on this subject.
So, did 900000 dentists, Doctors and nurses arrive last year? Is that the argument?
Yes, how could we be so blind? 🤣
You are unaware of just how bad our multiple industries are suffering from labour shortages. Companies are going to Nigeria and Philippines and others to actively recruit care staff so care homes can stay open. Many refugees from war zones do go into medical training,or engineering because those are essential skills for return when possible.
@karenrock3864 care homes etc need to pay decent wages. As do many other sectors. Industry lives the supply of cheap labour. Tony benn knew it.
Why? Would that matter to you? No they still be to brown for you
Care agencies should stop creaming off vast profits at the expense of quality of care and carers wages. It is not for nothing that care agencies are owned by investment companies and hedge fund groups. @@RobertThomson-y4m
Mad how all of europe is wrong and James is right
😂😂😂😂
LOL Its a first for him to say current migration is unsustainable.
@@gerryrr93 Oh look everyone, the spokesman for all of Europe is here.
All Right-Wing Parties in Europe are wrong and everyone else is right.
@gordonstrong5232 if you need me, you know where i am
I'm a skilled English worker who is currently economically inactive and living on benefits as I go through chemotherapy and try to survive my potentially life ending cancer. The treatment is 90% administered by immigrant nurses, whom I'm very grateful for
I don’t think anybody has ever suggested that skilled hardworking people are not welcome.
@@lestrem11well reform certainly do, farage is a disgrace to this country, it’s about time he got to work on what he was elected for,
Once again, nobody is complaining about skilled workers.
Who came here via official channels.
O'Brien's monologues are often rambling and full of out of context stats but this one is confused and rather nonsensical. I guess he hasn't listened to the Labour leadership declaring that immigtation target is 2.5 millon, that they are going to build 1.5 million homes yet, as Rayner has recently said there is no housing crisis in the UK!
James ignores anything he can't berate people on. It truly is his ego talking at this point. He pretends to be righteous, but really, he just wants to bash somebody, so he is right. His book says it all about who he is.
Doctors , scientists and engineers coming over everyday soon we will have too many skilled overseas workers
Another 1,000 of them just arrived this week.
Hospitals must be full now surely
😂😂😂 I can't believe how lucky we are.
Hmm. Some of ‘em may be qualified to instruct your (extant) great-grandchildren in the rudiments of syntax. ❤️
I think I love you, cherub. 🙏
😂😂😂
It's quite simple when we have hotels being used to house people, then yeah, we have an influx problem dont you agree?
I do like how people who have jobs and have not been in the competitive market for low skilled work say oh we dont have a problem.
James, if 60 million immigrants were allowed in, at what point do you stop saying ‘we need an honest conversation’ and just accept there is a tipping point. And stop conflating immigration with illegal immigration. James, when’s your wedding day with Kier?
Isn't he critical of Kier in this?
what if 500,000,000 million came in! or a space ship arrived with 6,000,000,000 arrived.....if,if,if....
But that's almost the population of the UK mate, no one is suggesting that. Not even the most liberal politicians. He did not discuss some other key data points which was disappointing, but he wasn't exactly singing Kier's praises
Ironic considering there's been a coordinated effort from the right to conflate legal immigration with illegal. How many times do we have to hear about boats and hotels?
@HarryNottings 'I took my dog with me to the beach the other day. He wouldn't come back in from the sea, he wouldn't listen to be. I said 'be careful you'll end up in one of them boats''
I am surprised this women is trusted to cut hair.
For the statistic to be at all relevant you have to know the report's definition of "skilled worker". If it only includes highly paid professionals then it's stating the obvious. I wish journalists would dig a little deeper when dispensing such statistics.
LBC is a far left media outlet as GB news is a far right.Neither are interested in giving a balanced view.
Agreed. The only comparison to make would be to 'skilled native worker' and even that wouldn't add anything meaningful to the conversation.
James is hopeless rambling on with his waffle.
Legal immigration for genuine refugees or skilled labour isn’t something people have a problem with.
Boat loads of men breaking the law to just get here is not ok. It’s illegal!!!!
Even if James supports it. Does not make it right I’m afraid
so you people in the UK are upset about 10,000 people a year?
There are no laws broken.
@@harrismazari5484 hmmm not sure about your numbers there mate. Think you may be off a few
@@chrisgcolling it is okay if you are unsure like a goo dboy you asked so i will educate you.
You said you do not have a problem with skilled labour or genuine refugees. Over the last 6 years the boat crossings have been 25k per year on average. Even if you consider a 60% genuine rate out of that (actual figure is around 80%) that means 40% are not genuine refugees and therefore on average 10k non geniuine refugees.
Hope this helps.
@@philaeon6779WRONG!!!!!
Poor old O'Brien, looking more unwell as the days go on. Must be down to Brexit, or Farage, or Tate or Trump.
Dont like it James....the door is open and you can leave!😂😂
You should not have joined in with the smears against Corbyn. It would have been so diffrent.
The annual SIZE of immigration intake into many countries, not just the UK, is massively challenging the capacity to cope with providing all social needs for all civilians. Populations are being played with by the media and certain others to say the issue is racism.
It's cruel and unnecessary. The issue for all these governments is not stopping immigration outright.
Precisely. But James only cares about the moral high ground. This has been clear for years now.
What part of controlled immigration does James have a problem with?
None.
James would like open borders
None. He has a problem with people who took a over lands many many years ago by force and now are complaining when others also come here.
Wonder how many of these people that want open boards have opened their homes up to them 🤔
He wants the 1% to suppress pay and conditions with waves of cheap labour
the first time i heard james speak i found him abrasive but quite intimidating in an argument. now i realise he's just a sophist. it's really quite sad. he's a middle-aged man who will intentionally lie because he has a pathological need to always win an argument
Can you imagine being around him .. he must just turn everything into and argument that like you said. He wants to win .
Care to provide an example of him lying intentionally?
Is James in the room with us right now?
@nigelsynnott7344 Yep . OB said Farage relied upon Tate for information. In fact Farage explicitly said he didn't believe Tate.
@nigelsynnott7344yeah he lied about illegals in four star hotels. And many other things . And in-fact he has ninety something ofcom complaints against him for lying.
I think if most people thought Starmer & his cronies were going take money from the old people they would not be in power now.
These people started work around 15teen or 16teen.
Today you be lucky if they started work at 20 .
By the way pensioners get £220 per week to live on .
Most of you would spend that on a night out.
Don't let the oligarchs take your country.
You will need a time machine for that
He’s trying to appeal to reform voters obviously
Have U got enough room in house to take illegal immigrants?
@@MarkStringmanO Brien has enough money How many has he took in.
Same as linekar 😂
@@MarkStringman ye lad my uni accommodation is full of room 🤡
@@MarkStringman I wonder how many people who complain about potholes have grabbed a wheelbarrow full of mastic asphalt and fixed them themselves?
I wonder how many people who complain about staffing levels at their local hospital have put on a pair of latex gloves and voluntarily administered a round of bed-baths?
I'd assume not many. It's almost as if it's not the responsibility of individual private citizens to take on the obligations of governments, isn't it?
You live in a lovely ,cushioned ,moral world o,brien don’t you!
Maybe he should refrain as a plumber and become useful instead of peddling division
What area do you live?
Down with moral worlds I guess?
@HarryNottings Point is James is as bad as the people he claims are the 'baddies'
Get out in the real world James and see how many "skilled workers" are coming
And then talk to a British skilled worker about the new person from overseas coming to do his job cheaper
Which skilled jobs are unskilled migrant workers taking?
@@django3422 Exactly. And how are they doing it cheaper? This is what unions are for, but I'm guessing Nick doesn't like those either.
Because Kier Starmer is only interested in the views of Reform voters. No one else matters
Or Starmer has seen the backlash across the entire Western world.
Look how Trudeau is polling, look how the SPD is polling.
How many skilled compared to dossers and those who pay zero tax but earn James. Once again totally naive
Most of them thickie Express reader.
Do you not understand the use of the term 'average'?
15 out of 100 work, the rest are dependents.
I am an industrial maintenance fitter. I did my apprenticeship at MG Rover Longbridge and was there until the factory closed. I left the UK in 2008. Work in Queensland at various places. Plenty of work here, and I get approached for work these days. Last few years I have earned on average $150k. £75k. On days shifts with a little overtime. From what I have seen I would not make that in the UK. My wife is in a senior office administration on around $90k £45k. My son is an avionics engineer now, he was 10 when we left uk. My daughter is a registered nurse working towards her masters. She is on double the NHS nurses doing 4 of 8 hour shifts a week.
The skills drain works the other way too.
7:50
Hating on Romanians is a somewhat popular dog whistle for people aligned with a *certain* right wing ideology because Romania switched sides in 1944 and joined the UN against the Axis.
Whenever I feel tired of listening to intelligent people, I turn on a James O'Brien vid. He never disappoints.
Judging by that comment you never listen to intelligent people.
Every time this guy speaks just shows how detached he is from true day to day reality. Clearly missing the point as always.
And I suppose you know it all then?
He lives in an upper classwhite suburb. He knows zero of the common mans plight.
James is honestly the worst broadcaster on LBC and the perfect example of what's wrong with the UK actually he really shouldn't be allowed to spread his nonsense on the radio at all!!!!
If I was Nigel farage I be sued James o woke for farage riot's
Allowed*.
@@dannyquinn9128 ❤️
Still not heard anyone talk about how many companies are outsourcing their work abroad. It's really ramped up in the tech sector since covid.
No if's, no buts, Reform's success or failure over the next five years depends on what Labour does with immigration. We saw what happened in America when the Dem's stuck their fingers in their ears and it'll happen here.
They could get rid of all the immigrants tomorrow and you'd just start crying about something else mate.
It's forecasted to drop to pre-Brexit levels, as long as they better optimise it in the national interest it's illegal immigration that they'd need to get a hand on. In any case I disagree, it's the state of the NHS that will decide 2029-- if the NHS project appears to be a failure/unworkable then pro-privatisation Reform UK will have an open path.
The Democrats were hard in immigration. That's why they put forward the border bill that the Republicans shot down.
Lol we all know if immigration dropped Farage would just find a new group of people to hate and his fan club would fall in line.
Like you won't just find a new target to hate
Britain hasn't run a government surplus since the year 2000...
Why did they call it Summer of riots? It was a week.
That's about right for the length of a British "summer"!
British summer = 7 to 9 days😂
I only heard it called the Farage riots
it was a weekend
There's a housing crisis in Manchester currently
Any news on the important court case today?
Of course, not James was wrong about that. He only cares about being right and righteous.
So 'many' called the summer disturbances 'the farage riots' did they? No, it was only you that called them that O'brien. Now you're obviously trying to backtrack
Low skilled immigration is damaging the economy according to the OBR, high skill or even average skill immigration is a net benefit. This is ignoring the cultural impact
What’s the cultural impact?
@@GRIMVEL imagine eating foreign food, driving a foreign car, watching foreign tv shows on a foreign tv drinking a foreign beer and then crying over cultural impact 😂 that Alex guy isn't the brightest spark
@@GRIMVEL I think it's quite subjective, some people seem to like cultural diversity and some don't
@@jacky5768 None of that are really big impacts on culture are they though. I have never been to Thailand and went well it has USA culture now because it has a McDonalds.
Have you been to USA, it feels culturally different to UK, you been to different European countries they also all feel culturally different, despite all having all those things you mentioned above.
To reduce culture to those things you mentioned is nonsense and you know it.
What skills do they have? Why do so many require interpretors at the job centre?
what a sad bunch of Reform and Conservative trolls now responding to LBC vids whilst ignoring they put the UK in the mess
Vote reform
People are hip to the uniparty system and will protest with reform, now continue going through your stages of grief in the comments
Nice assumption you made there, Cooki. 😂
Cool story
All started by Teflon Tony opening our borders!
I remember when a caller was telling him there was sharia law courts. Obrian ohh no there isn't. He knows nothing just a mouthpiece
There are article proclaiming that there are Sharia court proceedings taking place in UK cities. Try using Google.
Sorry O'Brien but this js EXACTLY what you wanted. Youre getting what you wanted. Arent you happy?
true
So what’s the difference between an expat and an immigrant.
Hum ... subtle.
I would say, you're an expat if you're paid for living abroad ( _ex a Export Manager, a Finance Specialist, Corporate or Merger Lawyer ect_ ).
If not, I think Expat is a derogatory term in public. Gives the notion you would rather be back some other place than here and there; it translates the feeling that you still don't know if it was your own finite choice to live in another Country or not and many other intuitive negative vibes.
If you were the son or daughter of a foreign parent you would never say :
- " _oh, I speak a second language because my mom is an expat_ ".
You would rather be encouraged to say :
- " _my mom was born in .... she is ..., she taught me my second language_ "
Just saying.
easy.....an ex pat is what someone from a country calls another person from their country when they now dwell outside of that country.
An immigrant is someone who has moved into a country from another.
A person can be both an expat and an immigrant depending on whether they are being referred to by someone who is from the same country as them, or whether they are being referred to by someone from the country they now live in.
its like I'm 'Dad' but not to everyone.
People can be referred to differently depending on who's referring to them, it's nothing bigoted, its just a matter of perspective.
Its curious its only the West that argues for mass (usually unskilled) immigration, other countries with worse demographics such as Japan have not rushed to replicate our experiment. Why?
We had a chance for change in 2017 but such as JOB did not want a government that would have sorted out the issue being discussed.
Canadian over here… Am I right to say that this Labour government is not panning out as hoped? The previous Tory stint was a dumpster fire, but it seems like this Labour government is roasting marshmallows on it…
It's panning out as expected, really. It's the Blairite, neoliberal, right wing labour party this.
😂😂😂 pretty much bang on mate.
I wouldn't take any notice of James, he speaks for about 0.1% of England. Although he's managed to get us to Brexit, get Boris to become PM, Nigel Farage an MP, make reform popular and was in melt down because trump won.. basically whatever he says the opposite is gonna happen.
Labour are doing fine. All the whining is coming from tory and reform voters who are having trouble accepting they lost.
Labour are not doing fine at all. Completely corrupt.. taking donations while calling out the Tories, they're all the same and Raynor sounds as thick as muck
@@drummingtildeath I agree but I'll change my tune if they botch the NHS and defense reforms in the spring.
His focus should be on getting the 9 million people who could work, but don’t, back to work.
Most of that nine million are not living on benefits, having been able to take early retirement. Bear in mind there are less than eight hundred and fifty million job vacancies and this number is diminishing daily.
In most people's homes, outsiders are really not the major issue on a day-to-day basis. No, it's usually upbringing, education, opportunities to make friends and lasting/meaningful relationships, figuring out what to do for a living, figuring out what to do outside of work and so much more. But no, please continue spinning in circles over something that will have non-zero direct effect on one's personal life. ☕
"Germany lost WW2 fascism won it"
George Carlin was a prophet
James - can you name just one country in your precious EU that isn't introducing controls on immigration that would make any Brexiteer proud?
You got any examples?
@@sjewitt22 - Holland , Austria , Italy , Germany , Hungary, Poland
EU have borders the UK have not.
The number of what the media report as 'immigration' is totally the wrong metric here.. in my humble view it only tells half the story. Yes it is important and we can't downplay it, but only relects on negative perception of a section of the general public to fit their narrative. There must be another metric that displays the other side of the proverbial coin.. reflecting benefits and skills that immigration brings... even better if we're able to report how well those skills fill the gaps we have in our public services, such as the NHS, Education etc.. Should this exist and be given 'airtime', it would raise awareness and ultimately educate us all!
Where did you get that stat? Nothing online?
James is the biggest liar on LBC.
@@Dynasty1818
You should phone in and tell him.
Wow! This might be the first time in James O'Brien's adult life that he has uttered anything ever so slightly critical of Keir Starmer.
It really isn't. He's been critical of Starmer. It's not James' fault if fourteen years of chaotic Tory rule has given him far more to work with.
Can we get someone else for the 10 to 1pm slot please.....so tiresome, smug and sanctimonious
Tune in for the 7-10 sloth.
@BarryDiegoLondon-cy9ij I will 👍 thanks
There is something sickly and patronising about Obrien. He also treats anyone who dares disagree with him as idiots.
If you want a right-wing echo chamber which I suspect you do then listen to Talk TV.
I turned off when Jimbo announced he'd 'got it wrong yesterday'..!!!What??
Immigrants in, nationals out. lets gooo
Sounds very colonial. I thought the ‘correct opinion’ was to be against that sort of thing 🤔
Propaganda
Why are young ppl voting for more right wing parties then across Europe then James..? This man is sometbing else!
Why not just open up all borders worldwide, get rid of passports and have a single global currency?
I am serious btw. Yes I am naive but IDC.
I could share my house with one 'skilled worker' and make a bit on the side.
I could share my house with 20 'skilled workers' and make a fortune.
Am I missing something ?
He compares a skilled worker from overseas with and AVERAGE uk citizen.
Why are you deliberately and disingenuously comparing apples and oranges??......why not also compare the skilled brit with the the average immigrant? to get some sort of fair comparison.
You're effectively comparing skilled people with the average person, OF COURSE you will see a massive disparity in in net fiscal impact.
On top of this, who are you actually arguing against?
Who is talking about stopping 'useful' and 'legal' immigration?
The population will vote and show you what they want very soon in the local and national elections.
2029 is not very soon for national elections.
The will of the voter has already been shown through previous elections. 2016 referendum and 2019 GE. They were ignored and therefore the turnouts since have dropped and apathy risen. Now the momentum is with reform UK.
Except that labour are proposing cancelling the next local elections . Can't honestly think why
@@stevepi1How were they ignored? You got Brexit and you got Boris Johnson, you can't blame us because they were both disasters
@HarryNottings The immigration numbers went up when they repeatedly voted for lower numbers.
This is our country and we shouldn't have to put up with this immigrant nonsense if we dont want to.
So theres that.
You taking your Country back? 😂
Right you are. That's why we voted Brexit knowing full well it would ruin the economy and scupper the NHS. Immigrants out at any cost!
Farage explicitly stated that he didn't believe Tate so to characterise that as "as the man who Farage relied upon for information" is disingenuous.
Then why did he spread the same misinformation?
@HarryNottings He explicitly and repeatedly asked for the reliable, credible information from the authorities. Being aware of rumours and unsubstantiated claims and reporting of their existence (and adding that he didn't believe any of it) is not 'spreading misinformation' as you imply.
@@stevepi1 You know the police don't release information about their investigations just because random internet con artists ask them to right?
@HarryNottings Genuine question... What was it that Tatesaid that Farage regurgitated?
@HarryNottings The point Farage made was completely valid. If the government do not provide information it gives the impression there is something to hide and others may fill that vacuum for their own reasons. He said there appeared to be an impression the public were being kept in the dark, which given the Welsh Christian perpetrator had chemical substances and proscribed terrorism group literature he may of had a point.
Let's start publishing which specific nations from overseas. Let's not pretend that the socio-economic impact of a Swiss migrant is the same as one from Somalia.
Who is saying they dont want skilled foreigners?
You really want intellectual honesty with politics, but UK will never get it.
All for immigration as and where the country needs it. Hospitality, farms, NHS all spring to mind. However, the governments own figures predict a net migration over the next 10 years of 3.5million people (350,000 a year). I don't understand why people aren't talking about this its always ignored but that means we need to build a city the size of Birmingham in the next 10years just to house these people (assuming the average household size of 2.4 people). It's just practically impossible to build a city of that size in 10years to house these people and no one is talking about it.
Immigration is capitalism importing an OVER SUPPLY of labour in, which is a race to the bottom particularly for the working class. Oligarchs love immigration. Capitalism will never invest in training, robotics or increase pay and conditions if it can just fly in labour. Back in the day the Left understood this, even Bernie Sanders was anti immigration.
GDP per cap/ head is DOWN
GDP per cap/ head is DOWN over the high immigration period
Child birth rates are below required amounts to sustain a capitalist society.
The birth rates are lowering, ppl are dying younger... if they don't come who else is gunna fill the gaps?
That's the problem, we need an honest discussion about what the country needs. Splitting out foreign students that bring in billions, medics that we can't do without, etc. Need to discuss how much more taxes rise for UK nationals if we lose the economic benefit of immigration. How much more tax you have to pay personally for every 100,000 fewer immigrant workers might focus the mind.
4:13 do you honestly think these figures make sense, you’re comparing a few highly paid skilled workers salaries average 60k (doctors, scientists,nurses) with the average uk salary of 35k… then including those who don’t pay taxes from a salary… you sausage
James O’Brien wishes he was Sam Seder.
So Starmers Labour refuses to give the waspi women the money they're entitled to and take the winter fuel allowance off pensioners in this country. While giving billions of our money to other countries. Hope whoever voted labour are proud of themselves now
Stop it. The Tory party put up the retirement age. And they have had 14years to pay out. Get a grip
What’s the other parties policies on the waspi women?
@MickSeddon Yes the uni parties are to blame
@@mclark1515 My point being Both of these parties don't care about our own people. But they care about other countries people
@@MickSeddonyou have to understand its just tribal politics with alot of these folk and a very selective outrage.
Thanks James, listening to this has reassured me that I am sane. I have so many people around me who have been labour bashing from day one, and I keep saying you must give them a chance, it is too early to call it as to whether their policies will succeed, and at least they're not stealing our tax money for phony PPI contracts. I agree entirely on thecquestion of immigration, it needs proper control and public re-education. We've already seen many effects of the 'what happens if people stop coming' in the disappearance of trained medical staff to the lack of agricultural workers. Birth rates are going down whilst people are living longer in old age. Countries will soon be competing for fit & able immigrants to join their work forces, and Britain will be the last place they want to come.
Because he wants to appeal to right-wing voters. Because he's a right-leaning neoliberal.
I'm wondering whether O'Brien and Farage are actually in cahoots and this is one big cover up as he's so obsessed, jealous and frankly ridiculous. Would be a genius move. Surely this guy can't be serious with these comments.
Why in the interests of fairness dont channels like this one balance things out and highlight the negatives of immigration instead of just the positives then perhaps the people on opposite sides might discuss the pros and cons of it rather than just insulting each other and that includes the presenters as well because they can also be very insulting towards people
And there you have it. James O'Brien and any news outlets are really in the business of division.
James is ruled by his ego. He must always be right, hence why he never debates any other top-tier debaters. He only cares about having the moral high ground. This much is true by observation. His book tells all.
P.S. I agree with you with all my being.
It’s a perspective thing, you’ll hear them rage against ‘populists’ like Farage… but the opposite of populism is elitism, and from that perspective you don’t need to understand you just need to accept that what’s being done is what’s best for you (as determined by the elite - elitism).
@@brettyates7054 You seem to have made the mistake of categorising Farage as outside of and opposing the elite, whereas in reality, he is one of the leading figures in that demographic.
@ and that’s absolutely fine, but populist-elite? Those are opposites and regardless of which you think he’s faking and which is true he can only be one or the other, either he’s promising people what they want (genuinely or not - populist) or he’s promising them what they need regardless of what they want (elitist). If you’re making some point about his involving himself with rich business tycoons then that’s not either, you’re talking about oligarchy.
These aren’t new concepts, they were discussed at the founding of democracy, they knew the problems with populists and they knew the problems with elites and devoted much time to solving for each… I can tell you now the people who founded democracy tended towards elites however their descriptions of what a positive elite should be look nothing like what they envisioned.
James we do at some stage need help from abroad, but we must vet them first.....this is the main problem.
They are vetted... Every refugee gets logged into the system and has their background checked. Same with visa applicants.
@@joskowal3711 not they don’t. Pure lie.
@@joskowal3711 if you don’t think that there are people running around the UK that the government don’t know about then You’re just as deluded as James living in this other reality he talks about.
@@CaptainNorthernMan You're misinformed. Asylum seekers can ofcourse give a false name. The vast majority of the undocumented population is people who have overstayed their visas-- the government therefore knows who they are but it's a tracking nightmare.
@@CaptainNorthernMan And even those pepole have still been subjected to background checks when they first entered.
These skilled immigrants who are contributing 20x a Brit, are they not going to use the NHS? At retirement age, are they going to leave the UK or will they stick around to collect their pension?
People have to pay a surcharge to get access to the NHS. The report clearly shows contributions vs costs. Fact is it takes about 50000k (from their data) for people under 19... then they become marginal net contributors. The fact is, people making those contributions are wealthier individuals due to their jobs/skills, so they may use the NHS but probably have contributed a significant amount to the costs incurred. Or like many wealthier people, they may use private healthcare. But no one in the UK ever suggests a UK born person in need should not have access to healthcare.
I'd imagine the state pension will be abolished by the time millennials get there, but even so, better paid jobs give individuals opportunities to get build better pensions. So perhaps they will still be net contributors for much of their retirement too,
GDP per cap/ head is DOWN.
No system will invest in training, robotics or increase pay and conditions if it can just fly in labour. Its a race to the bottom
This is OUR ANCESTRAL HOMELAND not an economic zone open to the World
@@evolassunglasses4673 There is a minimum wage you know? Blame the employers who choose to employ workers for less than a minimum wage, not those that need it. It is a race to the bottom, but for different reasons than you think.
If they contributed to it, why should they not use it? Idiotic comment.
Legislation needed to criminalise politicians presenting false information to the electorate. Preferably include newspaper editors too
So how many is too many people in the UK?
Can we take an other 10 milion...or 50 million or shall we say 500 million then take a view on it?
Japan seems to get by with 120M
@robert_bah but famously Japan have next to 0% immigration ......certainly not 10 million in the past 20 years....
@mrfrisky6501 recent events suggest that political parties that bang on about immigration all the time have demonstrably been very poor at controlling it. I'd rather have a party that focuses on the solutions, and if immigration is a subset of the push factors on our quality of life, then I'll entrust the party to solve the problem. It would be foolish to follow the white noise.
Not all cultures are the same james
Read the report, because even this description by James has left out important context within the figures. He is referring to a graph so it will be easy to see the data missing in this discription.
And James has the cheek to call others grifters. Before labour got in he was literally criticising the conservatives for not getting immigration under control.
What about the unskilled asylum seekers against the skilled British worker. It’s easy to skew the figures to your favour?
Nigel is right
Nigel Planer?
Only 16% work so as a whole its a net drain you plumb James
It is important when travelling through Europe to tell people there that Brexit was thought up in London, proposed, negotiated and instigated there.
You on overtime Bot?
Immigration needs to be brought under control. Too much burden on infrastructure. A nation needs to build its country and infrastructure by mobilising its own population. It just needs a bit of thought and planning. Not brining out blunt arguments in favour of or against immigration
I know. Remember when we had to stay home to protect the NHS? I guess that doesn't apply to immigration on a scale never seen before. 😂
Thought and planning huh. Go ask school leavers who among them want to be a nurse on the NHS, or work in care homes.
Nigel lives rent free in james head
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I’m that guy you describe sometimes. Retired early, plays golf, does DIY and doesn’t want to work.
They're just jealous of people like you, and it's sad.
I’m a skilled worker from the UK now overseas. Blair didn’t want us…. and the younger generation want tic toc. That’s why you can’t build houses, drive trucks or fit a plug lol 😂
It’s very unlikely you’re a skilled worker but glad that you’ve left. You’ve got a very weak understanding of the issues faced by the UK. We have too many corrupt individuals in every sector.
@CEO786 Wow. There is no need for your hate. You know nothing of Johan....
@@CEO786 I learned my craft as a master builder, I have built my own beach hotel, from plans to finish here in Thailand. If building houses is not a skill tell me what is and why the UK can’t build any?
@@jonahspiper
Your comment seems to me to be an honest one. I don’t think you’re making it up just for the sake of it.
It’s not that the U.K. can’t build any housing, for God’s sake, it’s just recently in the past 3 decades that the proverbial hit the fan.
Reasons-
1. An unprecedented population explosion thanks to uncontrolled immigration which the U.K. government did not expect, did underestimate and actively encouraged for the sake of gdp statistics.
So this created a huge housing crisis.
2. A numerous and preposterous amount of rules & regulations that hindered residential development, housing planning and permits.
3. Everything cost more times as much to build anything in the U.K. than most other places in continental Europe, definitely 4-5 times as much as it costs in Thailand.
4. The NIMBY stance.
As in not in my backyard refusing any construction work near one’s own property
Starmers position on Israel is enough to let me know how wedded he is to the right wing charlatans
What should his policy on Isreal be?
You can't win either way in this one, both sides are terrible to each other.
@@dannyquinn9128
He should be recognising Palestine as a state, and stop the sale of weapons to Israel.
Of all the mugs who voted labour this guy is top mug
Do you really have to ask why unsustainable immigration is bad ? Come on !🤦
"Freezing this Christmas ",download it,get it to number one
They'll be banning the charts next
The only thing worse than a liar is a liar that's also a hypocrite!
Tennessee Williams
Because hes's as much a right wing politician as anyone in the Tories who's suckered in liberals by presenting RW policy as "Sensible centrism"
Labour isn't working
Reform won’t work either
Shortage of skilled labour... Maybe the solution would be to invest in skilling our young generation and not importing it then
The english apprenticeship system is seriously flawed since the reforms from the tories in about 2017. It does favour younger people in terms of educational opportunity, but that is due to low pay conditions being acceptable.
There are few employment protections in place, including allowing apprentices to be made redundant without the company being in financial difficulty. It's troublesome because it allows for exploitation of apprentices, for them just to be made redundant 2/3rds of the way in, with no qualifications to show for it.
So yes, reforming skills training and possibly school funding models (ie ppl going to uni provide funding to the school), could help to create a more adaptive workforce. Or certainly create a generation which can begin careers and then decide later if they require/desire university.
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make an English youth start working.
We don't have enough UK nationals to train. Many jobs take years before one is skilled e.g. medics for 7 years. What are we supposed to do for medics for 7 years?! If we discourage immigrant medics then it will make the NHS massively worse...
@@tompearce3610 Tbf graduates can train in 4, but it takes ages to get 1 pipeline up and running at a university
Brilliant idea. Go talk to school leavers now, see how many of them you can persuade to become a nurse or work in a care home.
Lol are you surprised by starmers stance on immigration