People always say anything like this is a copy of an F-22, no, this is stealth and to make an aircraft stealth and a fighter it must look kind of like other stealth fighters out there, are you all dumb seriously?
HaydnAWE95 It does not need that to be stealth. The engine intakes aren't something that you see on the PAK-FA or on the F22. It's exactly the same as the F35
damn my bad guys, i forgot you cant comment on aircraft videos nowadays without an aircraft designer or engineer trying to correct everyone and trying to look smart, forget everything i said.
I translate Tian Chen's words: If F22 or F35 is easy to copy, the whole world will be full of F22 and F35. Why do those American little brothers ask Americans to sell F22 to them?
I don't think any of the stealth fighter's in development are just blatant copies of the F-22. All stealth fighters share the same basic configuration because at the moment that is most ideal configuration in terms of stealth and aerodynamic performance.. Granted I'm sure Russia and China referenced the F-22 when designing there stealth fighters but it's no different than the U.S. clearly referencing the Yak-141 when designing the F-35B Lighting II. I think it would be very difficult/impossible to design a stealth fighter that didn't at least have a passing resemblance to the F-22.
Impossibly Black I have been working on the JSF-35 production team(contractor with Lockheed Martin) and I can take at glance at this airframe and tell youth truth. The Chinese is simply copying the F-35 and have studied the stealth capabilities of the F-22 raptor.
kevin jones you say you work with JSF team?? The designer of J-31 did admit that the fighter are base on F-35 design but everything from engine to avionics system are Chinese make.. And how you suppose to study stealth coating without actually getting the sample?
Rage Tech That is where HACKERS kick in right? Yeah. The Edward Snowdens of the world have done their share of damage as well(toss in a Rear Admiral and 4 star general or two...getting charged with treason as result...no joke).
The engines are the old ones from Su27. It is used as temporary "suitable engine" on J31. The black smoke is from the incomplete combustion of the fuel. I think they are going to make a new engine specifically designed for them.
Moh Abrar it’s just a copy from Lockheed Martins f 35 lightening 2 (backstory China hacked Lockheed Martin and stole the schematics like ever other aircraft in the Chinese Air Force when they can’t copy any more their stuffed) it’s 2 engines aren’t even near the power of the f 35s single engine also it lacks radar absorbent coating which is what the f 35s primary stealth ability this rip off deserves no respect at all
@@getstuffed2391 jaja parece ser un buen caza de 5 generacion, por algo lo van a realizar en masa, los chinos no son ningunos idiotas, son la 2 superpotencia mundial y 3 militar con el ejercito de soldados mas grandes del mundo, ademas de ser la maxima potencia industrial... no subestimes a China
+Constantine Joseph that's because they know they will never get the opportunity to fly anything like that, so they always like to bitch. It makes them feel a little better.
+Carl Schmidt whats funny is that even if this where to be a 100% copy of the american f35 they still did it better. The f35 is ridden with problems. So sad my country decided to buy 52 of those pieces of shit.
+Carl Schmidt They copied the Predator too & put an eagle seal on it with red white & blue colors in the background. They have no shame & after seeing the seal I knew they were spiting in our face (coping our design) & attempting to also rub it in (the eagle seal).
@Zayed Haroon Nah look at the air intake. Exactly like an F-35. Nose, Wings and Tailplanes are a lot closer too. The only F-22 looking bits are the V-stabs.
@Zayed Haroon Huh I actually just heard of this. F-35 was at sunset on landing. That can be a tough condition. Could be pilot disorientation. F-22's have also crashed in the past due to control system instabilities. Can't say for sure until reports come out.
Haha replying your comment after few years, now the j20 s have been changing the latest engine ws 15 the first homemade engine by China and can compare to the latest engine in usa
@@yytan2711 Trump was telling China stole even 5G of America, reality is china became king of 5g, and America still struggling to have a basic infrastructure for 5g. Grapes r sour hahaaha
@@Sweedster Only the jet chemicals shell stealth coating are designed very similar to those of the F35,F22 models.The cot-pit aviation electronics are totally different because China and Russia are allies countries, so they share aviations technologies.So the cot-pit aviation electronics inside probabilities, will looks like very similar to the Russian stealth models of any jets fighters.
@@MaddoxLyrics It is as good as F22,F35.It is an American Boeing,Lockheed Martin designed.China got the stealth coating formula out of their computer networks as China hacking it.Only the aviation electronics are different.It is based on Russian technologies as China and Russia are allies.Any fighters jets are only goods as it pilots trainings and skills.The man making the jet better not the jet made the man better.
@@Chu3505 couldent be further from the truth, they tried the same thing with the J20, copyed the F22 and it was supposed to be a competiter but all like everyother china made item, it was terribly unreliable, and the wiring burnt out in it, these jets do not perform as well as the jets they are trying to copy and never will
@@gwihsanz431 tbf, China hasn't developed its own engines to an acceptable standard as yet so they are using Russian engines instead. We'd have to wait until we see a Chinese engine to truly judge the plane on such. Kind of like with US planes that were built before their respective engines (such as the F-16 for example). Too early to tell.
Son: Mom can I have F35 Jet Fighter? Mom: We have F35 Jet Fighter at home *F35 Jet Fighter at home: WTH even the J20 had already detected by Su-57's radar lol
airbus and boeing, hurricane and bf 109, ki43 and p36, mig and saber. Most rival planes tend to look alike due to similar performance requirements, accusing others of copying is just childish.
***** Claiming that the J-31 and F-35 are carbon copies due to the existence of the PAK FA is like claiming that the ME 109 and Hurricane are carbon copies due to the existence of the P-38. The fact that an even more unique design exists during the same era is irrelevant. The J-31 was created before the ATD-X. So arguing that the J-31 is a copy of the ATD-X would be like arguing that the F-35 is a copy of the J-31. Anyway, none of these planes are "copies" of each other. Using pictures of a fictional plane to compare with the J-20 isn't very convincing either. And even if the "vought tf120" was a real plane it's still very different. If the p36 and Ki43 are "50% similar", then what would be the "similarity%" of the J-20 and tf120?
Note when it's reality it isn't. Oh and their not accusing, they are saying because it is fact. There is nothing childish about it. Oh and although the Mig 15 and F-86 looked kind of similar, the BF 109 and P-36 looked nothing alike. The P-36 did however look a bit like the P-47.
Lmao, you don't know anything about aerodynamics. J31 is longer and thinner than F35, which makes J31 more suitable for interception and air superiority missions than F35. Only a fool would design a fighter plane as bulky and overweight as F35. The F35 is more like an attack plane.
@@holonow4298 HEAT SEEKING MISSILES, PLUS IT USUALLY MEANS THE ENGINES ARE NOT VERY EFFICIENT AND MORE IMPORTANTLY YOU CAN SEE HIM COMING WHICH GIVES YOU THE ADVANTAGE.
In terms of airframe, this fighter has good design as a stealth. But, J-31 doesn't have good engine as 5th generation fighter. It always need to turn on afterburner for maneuvering. Afterburner on renders stealth capability, making it easy prey for even a 4th generation fighter like F-18 or Su-27.
A mix between F-22 and F35 be interesting to see how it advances and just how stealthy it really is, but its a start, and China is trying to advance its air capabilities.
NO country other than US and China has the capability and the will to develop two stealth fighters simultaneously. Had it been equipped more powerful engines, J31 can be a rival to F35...so let's just wait and see if an indigenous engine can be developed.
Neither of Chinas so called stealth fighters are stealthy. Therefore the terms "Stealth" and "5th Generation" should not be used when mentioning the J-20 or J-31. It would take much, much more then engines for the J-31 to even come close to rivaling the F-35.
This is more like a unmatured airframe prototype... It seems ShenYang Aircraft Co is struggling to compete against Chengdu's J20. So they hurried to showcase their own 5th gen with old Russian jet engines. Though nowadays leaked photos show this aircraft is a lot more polished and has the potential to abroad carriers. You gotta admit Chinese jet engine industries start rather late and was heavily influenced by Russian counterparts. But oh boi, they learn fast. Within the next few years we are likely to see it go head to head with F35 Naval versions.
The J20 also tested with old engines before transitioning to WS-10s for testing too, tossing an old engine that has close/identical profiles just as a tech demo is not anything new even for countries like the USA (see F14) and the Russians (see SU57). The filming here featured a rather old (probably 2nd plane) of the FC-31 where it doesn't have forward swept tail fins unlike the 3rd known plane and a mock-up on a mock-up carrier. It is indeed a prototype and nothing wrong with that.
I do not think that the Chinese could copy any more than the shape. If they can not copy a Russian engine then will not be able to copy an whole F-35. And even less improve it. Maybe that's why Jane (military magazine) never appoint J-31 as copy of F-35. Only yours readers.
F35 is based on the Russian YAK141 VTOL aircraft. Why do all stealth fighters look similar on first sight? Obvious; because if you want to mix high manouverability with stealth the computer generated image can only come up with such a design. There isn't anywhere else you can go. You can have two engines instead of one but the plane would still look quite similar. If you try to change the shape making it more stealthy you can somethging like the Spirit stealth bomber which displayed very bad manouverability charachteristics. If you want to increase manouverability you reduce stealth and get something like the F22 or the Sukhoi T50. The compromise is the F35 and the J31.
***** "F35 is based on the Russian YAK141 VTOL aircraft" Exactly! The Yak141 had all kind of problems, and it seems that the F-35 too. I just read 5 mins ago that "hot" fuel could cause the F-35 to shut down!!!
Alex Perez from the comment your were previously replying to: "Why do all stealth fighters look similar on first sight? Obvious; because if you want to mix high manouverability with stealth the computer generated image can only come up with such a design." key words being: "fighters" and "high maneuverability"
***** don't u know, China's main business is OEM? do you know what does that mean? LOL the design is actually from US company and imported by US companies. LOL
@@Niko-xt5bs either the airframe was so good thry cant think of any improvement or they just dunno how engineering works... That airframe is optimized for single engine... Putting two engines on it will make it less manueverable due to center of weight shift and those engine are smaller so its possible its weaker.... Not to mention. That they followed the original V tail angle... Thats gonna hurt rudder control
Lol, so many jokes about the diesel engines. It has to be effecient yk😂 The smoke is something that happens on all jets though. At lower thrust levels, when you pull off or put on the throttle, the unburnt fuel makes smoke. Jet engines are not the most effecient things at low speed so when jets are speeding along or just at high altitude, the smoke is spread out in alot of air and not visible.
@@orneryokinawan4529 What are you an idiot or something? Did I ever say anything about good? I said jet engines smoke, that's it, and suddenly you want to be the next woke thing. What do you want to know next, how long your parents lasted on the night you were conceived? Man, no wonder we're hated around the world, jackasses like you
Yeah , easy to pick up on Radio lmao, I remember I had a radio in Chengdu when I was koving in China, could intercept the radio chatter and their signature on passive radar.
@@lmao.3661 I think you do not understand what a stealth aircraft is, it's not invisible to the eye it's just close to invisible to the enemy radar. Any aircraft with a small radar cross section is a stealth aircraft and what gives an aircraft a small radar cross section could be a stealth coating, it's design, the radar absorbing materials it's made out of or all three factors combined.
Pakistan is negotiating with China to buy 46 of these birds,no matter what others say,pilots also matters "The biggest weapon of the warrior is his "Heart"",Long live Pakistan-China friendship,haters will burn in hell.....
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People always say anything like this is a copy of an F-22, no, this is stealth and to make an aircraft stealth and a fighter it must look kind of like other stealth fighters out there, are you all dumb seriously?
So it has the same wing and engine intakes shape as a F35 and the chined nose of a F22.
thats what it needs in order to be stealth, thats the shape it must be, i see where your coming from but its not a "copy" its just similar
HaydnAWE95 It does not need that to be stealth. The engine intakes aren't something that you see on the PAK-FA or on the F22. It's exactly the same as the F35
damn my bad guys, i forgot you cant comment on aircraft videos nowadays without an aircraft designer or engineer trying to correct everyone and trying to look smart, forget everything i said.
HaydnAWE95 It's funny that you say this, because I actually am an aircraft designer, lol
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Great China,,, Respect from Pakistan
如果F22或者F35那么容易山寨的话,那么全世界将到处都是F22和F35了,哪里用得着求美国卖??
我幫你翻譯給那些傢伙看,他們不懂中文,一般不鳥中文評論的。嘻嘻
I translate Tian Chen's words: If F22 or F35 is easy to copy, the whole world will be full of F22 and F35. Why do those American little brothers ask Americans to sell F22 to them?
不必认真,他们高兴就好
Tian Chen shut up theif
I hope this fake toy meet in war with real-22
I don't think any of the stealth fighter's in development are just blatant copies of the F-22. All stealth fighters share the same basic configuration because at the moment that is most ideal configuration in terms of stealth and aerodynamic performance.. Granted I'm sure Russia and China referenced the F-22 when designing there stealth fighters but it's no different than the U.S. clearly referencing the Yak-141 when designing the F-35B Lighting II. I think it would be very difficult/impossible to design a stealth fighter that didn't at least have a passing resemblance to the F-22.
Yes you are right...and there is already a requirement and design for 5th gen stealth plane..so the rest are going look the same.more or less
Impossibly Black I have been working on the JSF-35 production team(contractor with Lockheed Martin) and I can take at glance at this airframe and tell youth truth. The Chinese is simply copying the F-35 and have studied the stealth capabilities of the F-22 raptor.
Impossibly Black That old Yak 141 is not what the F-35 is based on. Propagandist clown
kevin jones you say you work with JSF team?? The designer of J-31 did admit that the fighter are base on F-35 design but everything from engine to avionics system are Chinese make.. And how you suppose to study stealth coating without actually getting the sample?
Rage Tech That is where HACKERS kick in right? Yeah. The Edward Snowdens of the world have done their share of damage as well(toss in a Rear Admiral and 4 star general or two...getting charged with treason as result...no joke).
The engines are the old ones from Su27. It is used as temporary "suitable engine" on J31. The black smoke is from the incomplete combustion of the fuel. I think they are going to make a new engine specifically designed for them.
Six years later watching this video again, today J31 seems to change from a child to an adult. What a great transformation!
ueq
yea to bad the CCP cant design a toothbrush without stealing the design
@@johnwayne7673 salty af
from a concept to copy, to a fully functional copy.
@@johnwayne7673 نسخة طبق الاصل ومستقبلا سوف تتفوق الصين ترك لكم مشقة الاختراع وهو شارك في الانتاج انة فعلا ثعلب ماكر !
@@johnwayne7673 الصين ترك لم جهد الاختراع وللاسف شارك معك في الانتاج !
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Moh Abrar it’s just a copy from Lockheed Martins f 35 lightening 2 (backstory China hacked Lockheed Martin and stole the schematics like ever other aircraft in the Chinese Air Force when they can’t copy any more their stuffed) it’s 2 engines aren’t even near the power of the f 35s single engine also it lacks radar absorbent coating which is what the f 35s primary stealth ability this rip off deserves no respect at all
@@getstuffed2391 jaja parece ser un buen caza de 5 generacion, por algo lo van a realizar en masa, los chinos no son ningunos idiotas, son la 2 superpotencia mundial y 3 militar con el ejercito de soldados mas grandes del mundo, ademas de ser la maxima potencia industrial... no subestimes a China
Not surprised 😂🤣😂🤣
@Arjun Tomar No, choudna wo hota hai jo Israeli tum logon ko choodtay hain.
Baghair thook kay!
State of the art, Beautiful and powerful jet of Chinese Air Force. Long live China ❤
Love from Pakistan 💖
但有些是抄襲美國來的
Flight is always a marvel. A lot of people bitch about too much and don't enjoy what its like to sit in a jet fighter and fly like the birds!
+Constantine Joseph that's because they know they will never get the opportunity to fly anything like that, so they always like to bitch. It makes them feel a little better.
because majority of us dont fly lol
Few more years and this beauty will be a part of of air force🇵🇰♥️
Those RD-93 really love smoking. Be interesting once these get an upgrade to the WS series.
@@Soulxlight
Isn't it WS-13 ?
Boy, that looks familiar...
+Carl Schmidt whats funny is that even if this where to be a 100% copy of the american f35 they still did it better. The f35 is ridden with problems. So sad my country decided to buy 52 of those pieces of shit.
+Carl Schmidt They copied the Predator too & put an eagle seal on it with red white & blue colors in the background. They have no shame & after seeing the seal I knew they were spiting in our face (coping our design) & attempting to also rub it in (the eagle seal).
+Maersk1668 Wow. Really going off the deep end there hey? Your eloquence is unmatched, truly.
+Maersk1668 you're a sad sack of shit man. I feel bad for you.
+Maersk1668 Wow. such troll. much skill. wow
I'm from Indonesia and I just want to say that China is very good at developing war planes
F22 F35 รวมร่างกะน=J31 🤣🤣
After they steal designs
@@user-og1re4vv2q say by indian
Have you seen the performance of our F-22 that China pathetically tried to copy? 🤣
f22 from Ali Express
f 35 actually with 2 engine
@Zayed Haroon Nah look at the air intake. Exactly like an F-35. Nose, Wings and Tailplanes are a lot closer too. The only F-22 looking bits are the V-stabs.
@Zayed Haroon Huh I actually just heard of this. F-35 was at sunset on landing. That can be a tough condition. Could be pilot disorientation. F-22's have also crashed in the past due to control system instabilities.
Can't say for sure until reports come out.
@@appa609 zayed haroon is from pakistan..don't bother him..pakistan is like a slave of china...that's why he is criticizing f22 and f35..
J-31 with black smoke??
They also have cheap Chinese fuel.
Those engines have to literally be RD-33 copies (MiG-29 engines).. the smoke output and exhaust nozzles are identical.
Exactly!
It can be fixed.....like jf 17
I don't know what Chinese are doing, Pakistani engineers has made RD-33 smokeless (check out Jf-17 videos)
It's the RD-39
@Chaos-undefindedequation th-cam.com/video/5Qy-czF7rfA/w-d-xo.html
we all gonna act like the F22 hasn't existed for years lol
Why are you talking about that plane?
@@holonow4298 Because china tried to copy the F22 and F35 thats why the J31 looks identical, its sad chinda couldent come up with their own design
说真的,这只是个烧柴油的农用飞机,撒农药的
你懂个屁,烧柴油的劲大
@@zailao4688 你乍不说烧木炭火大呢😂
你这个傻逼,一看就知你不懂
还真是的
没听到美国的 F-35 么?
战忽局前来报告,这是遥控农用飞机……确认完毕
Chinese Stealth Fighter J-31 (FC-31) Demo Flight Air Show China 2014 第十届中国国际航空航天博览会 歼-31 鹘鹰
Good job China,, my greet from Egypt
Wouldn’t call it a good job... I mean it flies, that’s about it
@@lmao.3661 and that's all it matter for now.
Yeah, let's copy the USA. Good job...LMAO China should be ashamed of themselves!
A diesel truck emits less smoke than this one ☝️
That's just engine test prototype plane. When they produce them, the engine was change
😂😂😂😂😂
yeah, this one was using RD-93 engine from Russia
The engine needs more progress, 7 years now, don't let me down!!!
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@@lorenzo1697 Then you will always live in 2020
Haha replying your comment after few years, now the j20 s have been changing the latest engine ws 15 the first homemade engine by China and can compare to the latest engine in usa
@@damnmusic7017 WS15 isn't yet ready, now J20 B use WS10C
@@tluangasailo3663 but still they have invented and will be using in the future
竟然都是九年前的事情了,时间过得太快了。
Does it run on diesel???
No, it was water.
Oh, OK. Just thought it was putting out more black smoke than a Mac Truck!
it run on vegetable run, but olive oil would be better.
:-)
No, it runs on coal.
Lol looks like f-35's twin engined brother 😂
Because china was stoled our skill
@@yytan2711 Trump was telling China stole even 5G of America, reality is china became king of 5g, and America still struggling to have a basic infrastructure for 5g. Grapes r sour hahaaha
@@subh5774 lmaooo
It's a brilliant design aerodynamic wise, which resembles that of F22 and F35 but not quite the same. All it needs is a powerful engine.
“Not quite the same” it’s an f35 clone with one extra engine
@@Sweedster Only the jet chemicals shell stealth coating are designed very similar to those of the F35,F22 models.The cot-pit aviation electronics are totally different because China and Russia are allies countries, so they share aviations technologies.So the cot-pit aviation electronics inside probabilities, will looks like very similar to the Russian stealth models of any jets fighters.
@@Chu3505 They completely and shamelessly tried to copy Lockheed Martins F22 and F35, looks the same but is shit underneith
@@MaddoxLyrics It is as good as F22,F35.It is an American Boeing,Lockheed Martin designed.China got the stealth coating formula out of their computer networks as China hacking it.Only the aviation electronics are different.It is based on Russian technologies as China and Russia are allies.Any fighters jets are only goods as it pilots trainings and skills.The man making the jet better not the jet made the man better.
@@Chu3505 couldent be further from the truth, they tried the same thing with the J20, copyed the F22 and it was supposed to be a competiter but all like everyother china made item, it was terribly unreliable, and the wiring burnt out in it, these jets do not perform as well as the jets they are trying to copy and never will
Love china from Pakistan 🇵🇰🇨🇳
Kid: Mom i want a F22 Raptor and a F35 Lighting
Mom: We already have a F22 and F35 and it's combined! :D
F22 and F35 at home:
Dqe
But its pretty good man
@Russian country ball how do you know
@Russian country ball don't underestimate
@Russian country ball racist
looks nice, hope they put more advance engines in it! just follow that unburned fuel trail!
mig29 engine
Yeah it smokes like a F-4. Inefficient combustion. Good looking bird though.
@@williamg3215 : Yeah, Americans design good looking planes.
@@MrPeace2me lol its old tech with new body
@@gwihsanz431 tbf, China hasn't developed its own engines to an acceptable standard as yet so they are using Russian engines instead. We'd have to wait until we see a Chinese engine to truly judge the plane on such. Kind of like with US planes that were built before their respective engines (such as the F-16 for example). Too early to tell.
So Powerful J31 But I like more Chinese J20....😎😎😍😘😘
Love from Pakistan
But i like this black bird j31.love from karachi pk
@@darkman11111 😇😇😇
Luv from Pakistan God bless you china
Why God bless china for they do not believe Him!!?? Bible in china is not allowed!!!
+ Air to Air coal refuelling capabilities
With all that smoke you may be right
Clean coal tech.
Good comment
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CHINA , asombroso el nuevo avion j 30 excelente felicitaciones 🇨🇳
Yeaa !! Nice stealing technology skills china. You are better than russians now.
This could be for the 02 aircraft carrier in waiting ! Cant wait to see!!👍👍👍
You don't have a shame 👎👎👎
Son: Mom can I have F35 Jet Fighter?
Mom: We have F35 Jet Fighter at home
*F35 Jet Fighter at home:
WTH even the J20 had already detected by Su-57's radar lol
if that so.....lol it will never come ture .
@@user-fk5gx2hb1s for me, Russian Aircrafts are the 2nd option after US lol
@R41N well for me, F 35 is nothing against Chinese plane, because China already know information about F 35, because they hack US F35 blueprint
@@arisuryaramadhan but they will never defeat it's brother F-22 lol
@@user-fk5gx2hb1s lol a su30mki has detected the inferior j20 in ladakh🤣
airbus and boeing, hurricane and bf 109, ki43 and p36, mig and saber. Most rival planes tend to look alike due to similar performance requirements, accusing others of copying is just childish.
*****
Claiming that the J-31 and F-35 are carbon copies due to the existence of the PAK FA is like claiming that the ME 109 and Hurricane are carbon copies due to the existence of the P-38. The fact that an even more unique design exists during the same era is irrelevant.
The J-31 was created before the ATD-X. So arguing that the J-31 is a copy of the ATD-X would be like arguing that the F-35 is a copy of the J-31. Anyway, none of these planes are "copies" of each other.
Using pictures of a fictional plane to compare with the J-20 isn't very convincing either. And even if the "vought tf120" was a real plane it's still very different. If the p36 and Ki43 are "50% similar", then what would be the "similarity%" of the J-20 and tf120?
Note when it's reality it isn't. Oh and their not accusing, they are saying because it is fact. There is nothing childish about it. Oh and although the Mig 15 and F-86 looked kind of similar, the BF 109 and P-36 looked nothing alike. The P-36 did however look a bit like the P-47.
巴基斯坦和中国都是天气很好的朋友。
中巴友誼🇨🇳🇵🇰❤️
Diesel variant of F-35 😂😂
Yes Lol😂😂😂
Better mpg and torq😃😃😃
Still in developing phase, they will overcome that.
Lmao, you don't know anything about aerodynamics. J31 is longer and thinner than F35, which makes J31 more suitable for interception and air superiority missions than F35. Only a fool would design a fighter plane as bulky and overweight as F35. The F35 is more like an attack plane.
Good job chain u will superpower in 2025 long live pak chaina freindshif.frm pakistan
Good man, it's CHINA
Looks like the engines from MIG 29.
Pre114 right
Probably are
Amazon:
Picture - F22 Raptor
Actual Order:
J31
Wow, just look at that huge heat exhaust trail!
That will be a big disadvantage in dogfight
@@matthewA2 how so
@@holonow4298 HEAT SEEKING MISSILES, PLUS IT USUALLY MEANS THE ENGINES ARE NOT VERY EFFICIENT AND MORE IMPORTANTLY YOU CAN SEE HIM COMING WHICH GIVES YOU THE ADVANTAGE.
That’s for aim-120 to find it’s way home
The plume of black smoke means the J31 runs a diesel engine
China & Pakistan all weather friends long live to their friendship.
In terms of airframe, this fighter has good design as a stealth. But, J-31 doesn't have good engine as 5th generation fighter. It always need to turn on afterburner for maneuvering. Afterburner on renders stealth capability, making it easy prey for even a 4th generation fighter like F-18 or Su-27.
A mix between F-22 and F35 be interesting to see how it advances and just how stealthy it really is, but its a start, and China is trying to advance its air capabilities.
its stats match the F-35, but less stealthy of course.
Is this coal-fired power plant?
It is a diesel truck.
@계정워썬더용 He was fine. This is just an aircraft for agriculture running on diesel engine, absolutely not a threat to the world.
From troll i curious china govt will attacking other nation agriculture , maybe ?? Or sure ??
" Blackish Smog " doesn't look good enough while running in " Jet Fuel A - 1 " . . .😢.
Nice capture! Amazing air show
NO country other than US and China has the capability and the will to develop two stealth fighters simultaneously. Had it been equipped more powerful engines, J31 can be a rival to F35...so let's just wait and see if an indigenous engine can be developed.
+Jr Garcia Why do you have to reinvent the wheel? We all get inspirations from our peers.
Neither of Chinas so called stealth fighters are stealthy. Therefore the terms "Stealth" and "5th Generation" should not be used when mentioning the J-20 or J-31. It would take much, much more then engines for the J-31 to even come close to rivaling the F-35.
This is more like a unmatured airframe prototype... It seems ShenYang Aircraft Co is struggling to compete against Chengdu's J20. So they hurried to showcase their own 5th gen with old Russian jet engines. Though nowadays leaked photos show this aircraft is a lot more polished and has the potential to abroad carriers. You gotta admit Chinese jet engine industries start rather late and was heavily influenced by Russian counterparts. But oh boi, they learn fast. Within the next few years we are likely to see it go head to head with F35 Naval versions.
The J20 also tested with old engines before transitioning to WS-10s for testing too, tossing an old engine that has close/identical profiles just as a tech demo is not anything new even for countries like the USA (see F14) and the Russians (see SU57).
The filming here featured a rather old (probably 2nd plane) of the FC-31 where it doesn't have forward swept tail fins unlike the 3rd known plane and a mock-up on a mock-up carrier. It is indeed a prototype and nothing wrong with that.
I do not think that the Chinese could copy any more than the shape. If they can not copy a Russian engine then will not be able to copy an whole F-35. And even less improve it. Maybe that's why Jane (military magazine) never appoint J-31 as copy of F-35. Only yours readers.
American engineers provided all that to China unlike the Russians.
F35 is based on the Russian YAK141 VTOL aircraft. Why do all stealth fighters look similar on first sight? Obvious; because if you want to mix high manouverability with stealth the computer generated image can only come up with such a design. There isn't anywhere else you can go. You can have two engines instead of one but the plane would still look quite similar. If you try to change the shape making it more stealthy you can somethging like the Spirit stealth bomber which displayed very bad manouverability charachteristics. If you want to increase manouverability you reduce stealth and get something like the F22 or the Sukhoi T50. The compromise is the F35 and the J31.
***** "F35 is based on the Russian YAK141 VTOL aircraft"
Exactly! The Yak141 had all kind of problems, and it seems that the F-35 too.
I just read 5 mins ago that "hot" fuel could cause the F-35 to shut down!!!
Alex Perez ... none of which are fighters
Alex Perez from the comment your were previously replying to:
"Why do all stealth fighters look similar on first sight? Obvious; because if you want to mix high manouverability with stealth the computer generated image can only come up with such a design."
key words being: "fighters" and "high maneuverability"
Soon pakistan 🇵🇰 will get this jet in sha Allah
去年11月拍板了,j31的深度改进型上舰。翼面积放大到60平米左右,格斗弹仓,臂摇式起落架和双中推。
确定吗……两三年过去了,不造有木有继续……
P51 v j31 who would win?? I'll bet the first one!!!
Me too🤣
Bruh P 51 would win
World's most advanced stealth fighter
Seems Pakistan chooses the best fighter❤️🇵🇰🤝🇨🇳
无论如何,都是一次沈飞很好的尝试
这飞机到底还有没有后续呢。。。。都没消息了
@@LoveCuteCharleneChoi 没有了,就一台原型机能飞的,说白了就是技术验证机,
@@s0correctur264 那下一代飞机是什么知道吗?我对飞机不太了解,最近才开始了解的。
FC31一直在试该,调整,现在已经出3.0版了,并决定上003航母了,代号J35。
I'm american but I do like this plane :)
thou shalt not clog toilets thanks, dude. But needs more improvements, the original ideas are to develop relevant techniques for nonmilitary usage:)
***** was it really?i thought they looked the same
***** u cannot build a plane just with a blueprint. After all, in a bias american's mind, all the good thing is stolen from US LMAO. Nice try.
***** don't u know, China's main business is OEM? do you know what does that mean? LOL the design is actually from US company and imported by US companies. LOL
***** so lets make it clear
you are satisfying with your last comment:)
I know the Chinese plane spotters will freak out when they see a real stealth fighter like the f-22
放屁
Congrats china❤ from Nepal
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@@baburo101😂
look like diesel engine type...
Joey San Juan not coal engine type
Joey San Juan No one really knows yet what kind of fuel does the FC-31 use
Dongfeng diesel? Really😂😂😂 i think soo... But can fly and maneuver... Good...
L M A O
@@TheDavidc1 North Korea is great
I copied ur assignment, but I changed the last sentence so itll be good
Lmfao!!!
2engines instead of one
@@Niko-xt5bs either the airframe was so good thry cant think of any improvement or they just dunno how engineering works... That airframe is optimized for single engine... Putting two engines on it will make it less manueverable due to center of weight shift and those engine are smaller so its possible its weaker.... Not to mention. That they followed the original V tail angle... Thats gonna hurt rudder control
這機體應為空優戰機
發動機似乎有待改善
当时用的中推RD93发动机,这发动机会冒黑烟。现在WS13应该已经研制成功,WS19还有几年才能定型。FC31也发展了好几型了,2.0和3.0版本已经飞过,3.0版本去年飞过,改动比较大,不知道最后量产版本会是什么样😋
这发动机烧煤😅😅😅
I am from China, this is just a joy bought on Aliexpress
The colour of this fighter jet is nice
Interestingly this copy costs more than the original raptor
China❤️..
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Hello, brother of Pakistan
we stand with 🇵🇰
I'm from Pakistan and I love China🇨🇳🇵🇰😘
Lol, so many jokes about the diesel engines. It has to be effecient yk😂
The smoke is something that happens on all jets though. At lower thrust levels, when you pull off or put on the throttle, the unburnt fuel makes smoke. Jet engines are not the most effecient things at low speed so when jets are speeding along or just at high altitude, the smoke is spread out in alot of air and not visible.
😂 you think you're so smart explain why then that's good? It's not.
@@orneryokinawan4529 What are you an idiot or something? Did I ever say anything about good? I said jet engines smoke, that's it, and suddenly you want to be the next woke thing. What do you want to know next, how long your parents lasted on the night you were conceived? Man, no wonder we're hated around the world, jackasses like you
@@deven6518 I think they were engines from a MiG 29
It may look like an f-35/22 but WILL NEVER have the stealth and advanced avionics of both the raptor and the lightning.
You can detect it using AM RADIO frequency.....hehehe
su 57
Why?
Yeah , easy to pick up on Radio lmao, I remember I had a radio in Chengdu when I was koving in China, could intercept the radio chatter and their signature on passive radar.
How ironic, now J-20 avionics have surpassed F-22 and generally considered comparable to F-35.
非常棒的演出,来自美国的爱
they stole it from America lol
Now China is best country.
USAF calls this the "poor man's raptor"....i mean i dl admit she looks sexy but the raptor is 10x better
PLA called the F35 the flying hotdog for its smoky exhaust
Reason of smoke is small engine intake they are working on it
Maybe change the engines altogether? There’s no way that’s a stealth aircraft with those engines
@@lmao.3661 What makes an aircraft stealth is a small radar cross section. Smoke or no smoke.
@@lmao.3661 I think you do not understand what a stealth aircraft is, it's not invisible to the eye it's just close to invisible to the enemy radar. Any aircraft with a small radar cross section is a stealth aircraft and what gives an aircraft a small radar cross section could be a stealth coating, it's design, the radar absorbing materials it's made out of or all three factors combined.
东北那里产的东西,就跟那里的人一样
diesel fuel???
BioDiesel, recovered from egg roll fryers.
What a second! That looks way more like the f22 raptor than chengdu j20
Its like a copy of the f22 raptor
With Mig-29 engines.
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@@songyang9088 thanks... GOD bless you
China stand with 🇵🇰 forever and always
thanks!
respect from china
Good job and great plane!
Good job and great copy
Long live CHINA -PAKISTAN friendship❤❤
Dangerous aircraft.💗from Pakistan.🇹🇷🇵🇰🇨🇳
*One minute silence for Lockheed Martin*
XD i cant take it anymore
You just overproud bud.. Pls dont attack other nation agriculture. You got what u want , should be nice 😊☄🕊🕯
Pakistan is negotiating with China to buy 46 of these birds,no matter what others say,pilots also matters "The biggest weapon of the warrior is his "Heart"",Long live Pakistan-China friendship,haters will burn in hell.....
Hey I thought you are busy making bombs...lolzzzzzzz
HASSAN SHAH Will their hearts stop an AMRAAM?
That will require lots of remittance to buy and maintain....hehehe
Smokes more than a old Phantom 😂🤣
I'm sure they run coal 😆
Haters gonna hate
I think Greta thunberg mistook this for an American jet and blames Donald trump for the pollution of planes
@@gustifaisal3665 yea but copyist gonna copy too.
@@khnsxyz yeah and you only believe what you believe
The FC-31 has cropped tips and swept tail fins. The Chinese government hides much of it in action though.
J31, 2.0 TDI, with emission software
China is great.
There is nothing like copying... "In war and love everything is fair" A superpower china (Y)
They had aghani mountains wright now. 😥🛒🛒🛒
你这是什么意思? 你上次不是说你不会忘记天安门而且必定找回民主主义吗。
Way better than any jet I could produce... So I don't see any problems with it from that point of view
I think Chinese developed this to get rid of mosquito problem by emitting smoke 😂😂😂
Great work and congratulations china for steath fighter jet Support from pakistan 🇵🇰
這是一歀無論海空軍、自用外銷都很有前途的好飛機,問題是沒有好的心臟,所以表演時垂直機動性和富油情況表現差劣,要待天山和泰山發動機量產後才有未來。從表面處理工藝分析,整體進步極為巨大。外形上更似中型的F22,多於同級的F35,無論那一種都可見中國航空科技,已把追趕美國作為目標。
貌似是使用俄制米格二十九的发动机。
ObserverORhythem
RD93.等发动机搞定了就发达了。哈哈哈
期待我们的发动机了
涡扇13已经小批量生产了,
发动机问题在于材料科学还未取得突破
このサイズで双発なら近距離用の防空戦闘機で‐F35の代わりは勤まらないし、だいたい実際のステルス性は整備レベルで大きく下がる 日本にF‐35がくれば問題にならない機体だね
Bro all fighter jets are this big 💀
😷😷😷😷😩😩😩โหดมากเจงกีสขานJ 31🛩🛫🚀🚀🙄🙄🙄👲💣💥💡🕯🏮🤛👊✊👍👍👍👍👌👌👏👏👏👏👏
Masha Allah best fightr great job brother country
Pakistan zindaabad no my brother you’re not brothers with china you are brothers with🇺🇸don’t forget that ok
Jezus. Is that thing burning coal, or what? o.O
burning shit
Put 2 heat seekers up the smoke stacks make sure all the coal dust burns off! lol
Well forget the need to spot it on radar you can see his exhaust for 100 miles. In air to air he'd die first
Treetop64 The Chinese captured some of the highly radioactive water leaked from the 福島第一原子力発電所 and used them to power our J-31 for free. DH!
Its RD-93 Russian engine. China now made a new one of its own.mbut RD-93 is a very powerful engine
成洛马,沈霍伊
Beautiful
China pakistan friendship best👉🇵🇰🇨🇳🤜🤛👉💪
骨头鹰好帅