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to be quite honest, i think marvel comic familiarity plays a MUCH lesser role in the popularity of any marvel IP than most comic book enjoyers think it does. but Kathryn Hahn's energy is definitely a gigantic factor in the success of this next phase of the Wanda trilogy, no doubt. i mean the entire ensemble feels quite perfect together and no one feels like they're just there to fill space, which happens A LOT in these Hollywood comic book adaptations imho.
@@mildhoof she has been made a central figure in the Wanda trilogy, so i'm pretty confident she is going to change A LOT throughout the various releases. they have done an amazing job w/Agatha All Along of making the magical side of the marvel universe seem less...silly and tbh, empty. no offense Dr Strange fans but to make magic believable on screen to most people, you need more than an overdose amount of CGI...
Am i the only one who's not for Agatha's turn to villainy? Like, you basically take this wise and caring old woman and just say "nah, she's a villain now."
i suppose that could've worked as well. too bad they didn't think of this. oh well. i still like her younger looking version from the clips here. i think most of the experience i have of Agatha was her time in the Fantastic Four in the 90s when she helped Nathan Richards send Franklin into the future to become Psi-Lord and pissed off Sue Storm having done that.
@@Fanatic_Foremem i feel like a magic character is the easiest to de-age with as few questions as possible because the answer can just be “shrugs, magic”
@@benwasserman8223I'd not seen it at the time but frankly he would have been my favourite if I'd seen The First Avenger. That's my favourite Phase 1 film. Joe Johnston took everything he learned from Indiana Jones and The Rocketeer to craft a fun throwback romp.
They could always reuse her old woman design as a disguise for Agatha; something that I honestly felt the MCU should've done when Agatha first made her live-action debut in WandaVision. Who else agrees with me on this?
I still think it's funny that the midnight suns game was developed and launch right in this middle spot where Agatha still wasn't evil in the comics but Wandavision was already finished so the game probably will be the last time we see Agatha being a old lady that isn't a villain and teaches magic to Wanda Sucks a little that now she got younger cause it's kinda difficult to find heroines or at least non-villain character that looks old, especially in male focus media
Why aren't yall realizing that Agatha All Along is directly leading us to Wanda being resurrected, Billy becoming Wiccan and them all becoming a new found family/coven :(
@@nailinthefashion Because none of us 1. Are talking about the show like that and 2. Care about another Disney+ show that'll be mid at best. We are talking about how thanks to the MCU we will most likely not see old teacher Agatha and instead evil young Agatha.
@@braystar8578 for now. Yall are impatient and don't wanna enjoy the ride, and that's on yall. I'm having fun seeing her MCU origin, instead of having a cookie cutter 1:1 adaptation, we're seeing her progress into that version of herself. Youre being silly and upset over good storytelling lmao Mid at best for a bunch of narrow minded haters lol. Its my fave Marvel project by far.
i'm fairly certain Agatha did not all of a sudden become powerful after a couple hundred years. i mean didn't the show writers show us Agatha stealing not only her entire covens power and her moms power, but also obtaining the Darkhold, all while she was still fertile enough to have a child? blood and tears and bone! Maiden, Mother, Crone )0(
i think old Agatha devoted herself to wisdom not power, guiding people she was tasked with guiding. i could be wrong because i do not read comic books but i don't think Agatha as an old woman was ever 'big bad' villain energy. i believe that was more the Maiden-Mother phase of her life. which makes sense because the young tend to be dumb and reckless, never really understanding the bigger picture around them. that is the whole point of youth after all. you can't learn if you never f*ck up.
I see what you mean, but doing that also loses a bit of the value. Agatha's main feature is knowledge from age. Aging her down, specifically by stealing youth, allows her to retain that knowledge and be more powerful. If you gave her a daughter then you'd have to make her also much older, but then you'd have 2 Agathas who are both centuries old but one is nice and old, while the other is bad and hot (but still old). But if you just make her younger self more villainous than her older one then it tracks better as a character. Basically reclaiming her youth requires dark magic, justifying her actions in the past and the modern run. Plus she's never exactly evil, just selfish but aware of the greater good.
@@fortello7219 she isn't 'aged down' tho, that's the problem a lot of people seem to be making.. her appearance does not reflect her actual age. Kathryn Hahn isn't a 20 year old Hollywood actress. so i don't get this specific critique, from the jump. Agatha presented as an old lady in the comics a lot, this is verifiable fact. when she was in the crone, guide, nanny, teacher, grandma, mayor, etc. phases of her life. but like most witches, looks can be deceiving. and tbh, her being played by a 50+ year old actress as talented as Kathryn Hahn, is a BLESSING to not only this 3 part Wanda trilogy, it's doing good things for the Marvel universe as a whole. from my perspective, this part of the trilogy is telling a grand story, while at the same time 'fleshing out' the more magical segments of the Marvel universe. i think it's a brilliantly executed project and i've only gotten to see 3 episodes lol.
I'm going to guess that by the end of Agatha All Along, Agatha will be a better person which will justify her being in the MCU Fantastic Four sequel as a secondary protagonist as Franklin's nanny bringing her character full circle.
They haven't really done much that links the TV shows to the movies. I mean, She-Hulk had lots of headlines and stuff, but so far the shows have had very little impact on the MCU storyline. They chose to almost completely ignore Scarlett Witch's journey in the Strange movie. (Word is Raimi didn't even watch the series.)
@@pvtmossy1724 I just don’t like the push to make her so much younger. There’s barely any visibly older women in comics (from what I’ve seen, if you know a series that does I’d love to know) especially ones that are powerhouses like Agatha. Again I get the reason they changed her design was to match with her actress more, but then why not cast an older woman for the role? It just feels like a disappointment to me There are already so many young women in comics, it also helped Agatha stand out a bit more
@@reaperlou8649 I kind of agree. Her original design is so unique and has a lot of personality. I like using her in Marvel Strike Force just for that reason. Her new design isn't as iconic, but I think it could go well with a Wanda and Agatha rival story.
Great job with going over the history of Agatha’s character. I love the modern Scarlet Witch books too. Great humor in this episode as well. I’m hopeful for Agatha’s show on Disney plus!
man I'll be honest, i really don't like how she's tied into the salem witch trials- in the mcu and comics. those were real people, not witches, who were unjustly murdered in horrible ways. it's like having spider-man fight the IRA during the troubles in northern ireland (that's real by the way. web of spider-man #20)
Bro... it was hundreds of years ago. Jesus christ does everything have to be fictional now? Should magneto not be connected to the holocaust? Red Skull? The JSA with WW2?
Honestly surprised you didn't bring up the more controversial Northern Ireland connection that was originally going to be for Captain Britain before Alan Moore took over.
I personally really liked the version of Agatha from the videogame Midnight Suns. And also I really don't like what they turned her into in the MCU, so it makes me kinda sad that now in the comics she's basically her MCU version.
Honestly I think Cthon got off easy in this entire series of events by being turned into a book/child. Most of his siblings were eaten or banished elsewhere
The second you mentioned the Hex Girls, my brain radio would not shut up. I don't even know if you included background music - all I can hear is "🎶 and we're gonna put a spell on you~ 🎵"
also i really like her new costume design. using the classic 3 moons symbol like a usual superhero logo is kinda brilliant! not something i expect we'll see in the mcu tho cause they can't copyright that lol
Oh good, I wasn't the only one who noticed the MCU was dangerously close to adapting the "Celestial Madonna" story. They had all the characters, all the Kang variants, they even made Agatha young.... which never made sense in the original story but as the most sensible thing that didn't make sense, it got lost in the mess... it was like they were waiting for someone to dare them to do it.
I really enjoyed Agatha in the Midnight Sons video game. I didn't even realize her history and wow I like her even more now. Thanks for talking about her Drake :D
I like Agatha as a character but i wish marvel would've used old Agatha. Scarlet witch with a friend who was also a witch would've been so good. I want more magic in the mcu period.
Now i just want they don't put away the relationahip with Franklin, having another villain being the godmother of a richards kid is just gold to me, val and Victor and Franklin and agatha
I really appreciate this. Before Wandavision, all I could have told someone about Harkness is that she was once Franklin's babysitter. I either didn't know or had forgotten everything in between.
I do hope they age her back at some point. Genuinely over same body-type slim young heroines and heroes. Agatha was great as elderly woman, that she is.
Been a Marvel fan all my life with a massive collection of the comics, toys, DVD etc. Never heard of Agatha till her TV series. Can't say I find her appealing at all in it.
My first real exposure to Agatha besides Wandavision was Midnight Suns, the game, and in it I loved her for so many reasons, mostly because of how casual she is about being freaking dead! I'll admit I suspected her for a while but ultimately she became my second favorite character in the game... after Magik. The moment you said they made her a straight up villain... my heart broke. Antagonistic? I can live with that, evil? please no! (MCU can keep her evil, i don't care)
Kang Dynasty being a bad story doesn't mean it can't get adapted well; look at Old Man Logan, Civil War, and One More Day. I forgot about Agatha wrecking face on her first day with the FF lol. I am also fine with making Agatha a Wanda villain; and I like the red and purple visuals when they fight. Kathryn Hahn does a great job with her in the MCU, and I'm glad the show is pulling in numbers.
It’s kinda sad that the comics have to keep up with the movies now, the movies at this point are just doing their own thing and the comics have to change. Also why is Marvel so against old ladies?
Personally not a fan of the MCU-fication of comics and especially Agatha. I understand the rogues gallery argument, but I don't think you can get more personal than Wanda and Chthon.
Before this and the introduction from Wandavision, i thought she’s been a villain because of her name: Agatha Harkness; Agath-a-Harkness; Agent of Darkness. But I guess it’s just me
Hey there Comic Drake. I stubbled upon this video of yours and just wanted to say that it was absolutely amazing. You did some great research on this topic and I thought that it was wonderfully done. Thank you so much for creating and sharing this video with us. P.S. Do you think that Rio in the Agatha All Along series is the demon that you were talking about or a sister to Agatha?
Jane Lapotaire is Agatha Harkness. 100% comics accurate. Casting her would have been an act of homage to Stan Lee and Jack Kirby's original classic Agatha Harkness.
I spent more of that video's run time than I'd like to have trying to figure out why Drake was dressed like a youth pastor at a funeral. The best I've come up with is it being cosplay of the villain from Scooby Doo and the Witch's Ghost, which would be a absolutely wild deep cut that's somehow still weirdly relevant to the video (if only through theming).
While I do really like some of the stuff they've been doing with Agatha I'm really not too keen on her being more of a villain (morso anti-villain) now, as I've always seen her as a uniquely heroic character in her own right, but I do have some confidence that will see her and more heroic roles in the future (kind of akin to Scarlet witches back and forth)
I am not super into the being a villain thing, but morally dubious is cool. Give us some morally dubious women who can both be a little older and charismatically hot. I like the idea of by trope would be the villain in an older story, be the hag, but now may be flawed but not just stereotypicaly evil. Maybe just a little evil because she wants to cackle and make some people uncomfortable that wouldn't like a strong woman.
Love the mug. Still a little confused about which bits of Agatha's history were written before Wandavision and which ones were written after. I'm guessing anything where she looks young is written after Wandavision: is that right?
I'm still just really confused on why they decided to make Agatha a villain, for Wandavision I mean it would make sense if there were hints to it that could be extrapolated but she seemed firm in the hero category.
If she first appeared in FF I'm surprised she appeared in the MCU and isn't considered FF character. I know Disney bought Fox so irrelevant now but at time of Wandavision being made I wonder if it was a concern. Or maybe TV and Film rights different.
Here's hoping Agatha has some good writing for the Disney plus series. I enjoyed her in Wandavision but her sudden turnaround of wanting to steal Wanda's hex magic just made no sense to me when Agatha is usually Wanda's mentor.
ah yes that time Scarlet Witch went crazy after learning about her demon sons... years after she already learned about her demon sons & actually got to process her grief and move on. oh Bendis you really are the Ken Penders of Marvel & DC
I'd agree with you about the new Scarlet Witch series.. If they didn't bring back Joseph just to kill him off again. Meanwhile in parallel to that, Magneto dies a heroic and meaningful death. Only to be resurrected for no reason whatsoever issues later. What could have been Joseph's legitimate time to shine was undermined *again.*
God is there just one comic book marvel/dc character that doesn’t have a complex history of twist and turns death and resurrection turned evil then good and some out still good looking despite being from the 60’s
Okay so, I didn't know about this character. But... that face heel turn seems SUPER out of nowhere and frankly.... Rather stupid? Why not make a new character? Or heck, do what they did with Nick Fury, or, should I say, Nick Fury Jr.? You know, have this either be her kid, or hell, since the multiverse is a strong element. Make the evil one a variant. From this little description, her older version sounded more interesting....
Oh no! Drake has a different opinion than people on the internet (the Steve Orlando, Sara Pachelli, Lorenzo Tammetta, and Jacopo Camagni run is good), whatever shall we do!!!
I've been reading Scarlet Witch vol 1 of the 2016 series and been loving Agatha Harkness's quips and how catty she is In the book! Mostly with how much she complains about being bored!
So basically the MCU and Marvel Comics hating any child that wasn't formed from a magical object had a big impact on Agatha's depiction. Or is that just what I got out of it?
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@@goby1764 a lot of youtubers have had them recently, I really hate it
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I'd say most of Agatha's current popularity amounts to 20% Marvel Comics familiarity, 10% MCU speculation, and 70% Kathryn Hahn charisma.
And the fact she is incredibly hot (KH)
to be quite honest, i think marvel comic familiarity plays a MUCH lesser role in the popularity of any marvel IP than most comic book enjoyers think it does.
but Kathryn Hahn's energy is definitely a gigantic factor in the success of this next phase of the Wanda trilogy, no doubt. i mean the entire ensemble feels quite perfect together and no one feels like they're just there to fill space, which happens A LOT in these Hollywood comic book adaptations imho.
I just hope Kathryn Hahn sticks around in the MCU long enough that we get old lady Agatha eventually!
Its just that she's hot
@@mildhoof she has been made a central figure in the Wanda trilogy, so i'm pretty confident she is going to change A LOT throughout the various releases.
they have done an amazing job w/Agatha All Along of making the magical side of the marvel universe seem less...silly and tbh, empty.
no offense Dr Strange fans but to make magic believable on screen to most people, you need more than an overdose amount of CGI...
It's funny how Agatha evolved as people's idea of witches did. We go from victorian old lady to goth queer young woman.
Not sure if she's Q in the comics.
Also I'm not sure if the second is a common one. The goth and young part yes. But Q?
@@ggt47in modern times? Yeah.
hell, i wouldn't mind both. gimme an old goth woman with goth boots and a victorian collar dammit
She's queer in the comics
THEY WHITEWASHED THE CAT?!
Couldn’t they at least rename it Ivory?!
lmao
LOL XD
I can’t believe marvel will do that.
So basically a reverse version of Snowball from The Simpsons.
Am i the only one who's not for Agatha's turn to villainy? Like, you basically take this wise and caring old woman and just say "nah, she's a villain now."
Yeah, seems super random to be honest....
See was really "evil" she was a grey character. Classic Agatha Franklin's nanny.
Was it too hard to have Young Agatha be a descendant of old agatha? You could have the same dynamic with wanda and not lose the cool old lady mentor.
@@Fanatic_Foremem that’s an even better idea
they did that exact thing with 616 nick fury
they already did this with nick fury, it’s a trope i’d really not like to see marvel milk to death.
i suppose that could've worked as well.
too bad they didn't think of this.
oh well.
i still like her younger looking version from the clips here.
i think most of the experience i have of Agatha was her time in the Fantastic Four in the 90s when she helped Nathan Richards send Franklin into the future to become Psi-Lord and pissed off Sue Storm having done that.
@@Fanatic_Foremem i feel like a magic character is the easiest to de-age with as few questions as possible because the answer can just be “shrugs, magic”
She’s definitely getting a Fortnite skin eventually.
LMFAAAAOOOOOOOOO
I'd buy it ngl
1000% 😂😂
Not Agatha teabagging
Comic Drake on his Wanda, Vision and their kids video back in 2021: Agatha is nobody’s favorite character.
Agatha: And I took that personally.
People felt the same way about Captain America in The Avengers. And look how that turned out.
@@benwasserman8223 that is america's ass
I read that in Kathryn Hahn's voice!😂
@@benwasserman8223I'd not seen it at the time but frankly he would have been my favourite if I'd seen The First Avenger. That's my favourite Phase 1 film. Joe Johnston took everything he learned from Indiana Jones and The Rocketeer to craft a fun throwback romp.
She still no one's favourite character.
damn...the suit and turtleneck look really suits you! drake got that modern warlock vibes going on
Or man on path of revenge because fools decided to killing dog of his late wife was good idea and stealing that awesome car
I would say if I was a writer I would make her changing appearance be a result of the Maiden, Mother & Crone concept. Pretty simple to me😅
Yeah thats clever
A magical timelord
They could always reuse her old woman design as a disguise for Agatha; something that I honestly felt the MCU should've done when Agatha first made her live-action debut in WandaVision. Who else agrees with me on this?
Nah.
That would have been so cool. She could have been the stereotypical older nosy neighbor which would later be revealed to be Kathryn.
I still think it's funny that the midnight suns game was developed and launch right in this middle spot where Agatha still wasn't evil in the comics but Wandavision was already finished so the game probably will be the last time we see Agatha being a old lady that isn't a villain and teaches magic to Wanda
Sucks a little that now she got younger cause it's kinda difficult to find heroines or at least non-villain character that looks old, especially in male focus media
I know, she's really good in Midnight Suns but nah, because she's evil in the MCU we gotta turn her evil in the comics now, for that synergy!!!
@@braystar8578That's one thing I dislike about the MCU.
Why aren't yall realizing that Agatha All Along is directly leading us to Wanda being resurrected, Billy becoming Wiccan and them all becoming a new found family/coven :(
@@nailinthefashion Because none of us 1. Are talking about the show like that and 2. Care about another Disney+ show that'll be mid at best.
We are talking about how thanks to the MCU we will most likely not see old teacher Agatha and instead evil young Agatha.
@@braystar8578 for now. Yall are impatient and don't wanna enjoy the ride, and that's on yall. I'm having fun seeing her MCU origin, instead of having a cookie cutter 1:1 adaptation, we're seeing her progress into that version of herself.
Youre being silly and upset over good storytelling lmao
Mid at best for a bunch of narrow minded haters lol. Its my fave Marvel project by far.
The chad Hagatha (Hag old Agatha)vs the weak virgin Yagatha (Young-Agatha).
i'm fairly certain Agatha did not all of a sudden become powerful after a couple hundred years. i mean didn't the show writers show us Agatha stealing not only her entire covens power and her moms power, but also obtaining the Darkhold, all while she was still fertile enough to have a child?
blood and tears and bone!
Maiden, Mother, Crone )0(
i think old Agatha devoted herself to wisdom not power, guiding people she was tasked with guiding. i could be wrong because i do not read comic books but i don't think Agatha as an old woman was ever 'big bad' villain energy. i believe that was more the Maiden-Mother phase of her life. which makes sense because the young tend to be dumb and reckless, never really understanding the bigger picture around them. that is the whole point of youth after all. you can't learn if you never f*ck up.
Hmm
I see what you mean, but doing that also loses a bit of the value. Agatha's main feature is knowledge from age. Aging her down, specifically by stealing youth, allows her to retain that knowledge and be more powerful.
If you gave her a daughter then you'd have to make her also much older, but then you'd have 2 Agathas who are both centuries old but one is nice and old, while the other is bad and hot (but still old).
But if you just make her younger self more villainous than her older one then it tracks better as a character. Basically reclaiming her youth requires dark magic, justifying her actions in the past and the modern run. Plus she's never exactly evil, just selfish but aware of the greater good.
@@fortello7219 she isn't 'aged down' tho, that's the problem a lot of people seem to be making.. her appearance does not reflect her actual age. Kathryn Hahn isn't a 20 year old Hollywood actress. so i don't get this specific critique, from the jump.
Agatha presented as an old lady in the comics a lot, this is verifiable fact. when she was in the crone, guide, nanny, teacher, grandma, mayor, etc. phases of her life.
but like most witches, looks can be deceiving. and tbh, her being played by a 50+ year old actress as talented as Kathryn Hahn, is a BLESSING to not only this 3 part Wanda trilogy, it's doing good things for the Marvel universe as a whole.
from my perspective, this part of the trilogy is telling a grand story, while at the same time 'fleshing out' the more magical segments of the Marvel universe.
i think it's a brilliantly executed project and i've only gotten to see 3 episodes lol.
I'm going to guess that by the end of Agatha All Along, Agatha will be a better person which will justify her being in the MCU Fantastic Four sequel as a secondary protagonist as Franklin's nanny bringing her character full circle.
She was already a better person than Wanda. Not much needs to be done to “redeem” her
They haven't really done much that links the TV shows to the movies. I mean, She-Hulk had lots of headlines and stuff, but so far the shows have had very little impact on the MCU storyline. They chose to almost completely ignore Scarlett Witch's journey in the Strange movie. (Word is Raimi didn't even watch the series.)
@@ma.2089 She literally killed a puppy.
I’m not that big a fan of her new design myself. I get the reasoning behind it but that doesn’t mean I like it.
Why don't you like it? I'm curious as a non-Agatha fan.
@@pvtmossy1724 I just don’t like the push to make her so much younger. There’s barely any visibly older women in comics (from what I’ve seen, if you know a series that does I’d love to know) especially ones that are powerhouses like Agatha.
Again I get the reason they changed her design was to match with her actress more, but then why not cast an older woman for the role? It just feels like a disappointment to me
There are already so many young women in comics, it also helped Agatha stand out a bit more
Ye I Miss The Old Woman Look
@@reaperlou8649 I kind of agree. Her original design is so unique and has a lot of personality. I like using her in Marvel Strike Force just for that reason. Her new design isn't as iconic, but I think it could go well with a Wanda and Agatha rival story.
I hate it so much. Why does she look like a boring version of both Raven and psylocke
00:19 wow Agatha looks ho-AAAAAAW WHAT THE HELL IS THAT DRIP?
Agatha went from granny to MILF
its stripper chique
the fashion of choice for such characters as Emma Frost, the Goblin Queen, Psylocke etc etc
@@mrroboshadow was talking abt Drake's sluttily good fit
@@JohnYannoulas ah fair enough then
@@JohnYannoulas Still the same point
Is Drake dressed as Ben Ravencroft from the scooby doo and the witch's ghost movie?!!
It was Mephisto all along
I wish. That's what I wanted to happen in Wandavision.
That... would have made a lot more sense. The guy loves destroying marriages!
Great job with going over the history of Agatha’s character. I love the modern Scarlet Witch books too. Great humor in this episode as well. I’m hopeful for Agatha’s show on Disney plus!
Love Drake’s outfit, looks like he’d be in Frasier
I was thinking he looks like Alan Wake
man I'll be honest, i really don't like how she's tied into the salem witch trials- in the mcu and comics. those were real people, not witches, who were unjustly murdered in horrible ways. it's like having spider-man fight the IRA during the troubles in northern ireland (that's real by the way. web of spider-man #20)
Yeah, I’m growing more divided on my opinion of the Skrulls for a similar reason, that being anti-Jewish propaganda.
@@luigiboi4244can I ask... how?
Bro... it was hundreds of years ago. Jesus christ does everything have to be fictional now? Should magneto not be connected to the holocaust? Red Skull? The JSA with WW2?
Honestly surprised you didn't bring up the more controversial Northern Ireland connection that was originally going to be for Captain Britain before Alan Moore took over.
Yeah I mean, could you imagine someone like Magneto being tied into the holocaust or something? That would be crazy insensitive...
Aunt May, Madame Web, Agatha Harkness, why does Marvel keep de-ageing their elderly characters?
Because dumb movie synergy. Companies can't just let comics be their own thing, apparently.
I personally really liked the version of Agatha from the videogame Midnight Suns.
And also I really don't like what they turned her into in the MCU, so it makes me kinda sad that now in the comics she's basically her MCU version.
Honestly I think Cthon got off easy in this entire series of events by being turned into a book/child. Most of his siblings were eaten or banished elsewhere
Why does the celestial Madonna storyline keep coming back 😭
Comic Drake looking handsome frfr. Cool video, I never knew anything about Agatha until now! :3
Damn comic drake you suited up!!
The round glasses look really good on you. They frame your face really well. The whole look is great.
I will ALWAYS enjoy a Hex Girls name drop. They need their own spin-off and have needed one ever since they debuted in the late 90's.
You deserve a like just for mentioning the 2015 James Robinson run of Scarlet Witch, it’s one of my favorite comics!
The second you mentioned the Hex Girls, my brain radio would not shut up. I don't even know if you included background music - all I can hear is "🎶 and we're gonna put a spell on you~ 🎵"
I know this really isn't relevant but can you tell us who the guy with the Pepsi logo on his chest is at 11:50
Taegukgi, the Korean Superman. I touched on him briefly in my Luna Snow history. th-cam.com/video/ArVKxM4jhUg/w-d-xo.htmlsi=qzh4i0SJCynOEh0G
@@ComicDrake Ty, shouldn't have doubted your comic knowledge ty for the reply 😊
It ain't often when you see comic book characters de-age, unless they die and come back to life
also i really like her new costume design. using the classic 3 moons symbol like a usual superhero logo is kinda brilliant! not something i expect we'll see in the mcu tho cause they can't copyright that lol
Oh good, I wasn't the only one who noticed the MCU was dangerously close to adapting the "Celestial Madonna" story.
They had all the characters, all the Kang variants, they even made Agatha young.... which never made sense in the original story but as the most sensible thing that didn't make sense, it got lost in the mess... it was like they were waiting for someone to dare them to do it.
house of harkness is SO good, did not expect to enjoy a teen AU dark academia infinity comic as much as I did hahah
I really enjoyed Agatha in the Midnight Sons video game. I didn't even realize her history and wow I like her even more now. Thanks for talking about her Drake :D
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I like Agatha as a character but i wish marvel would've used old Agatha. Scarlet witch with a friend who was also a witch would've been so good. I want more magic in the mcu period.
9:20
You sir are going to Jail.
That is a pun felony.
Fabulous, sir! Actually learned a lot here
Thanks for providing assets for the thumbnail!
you got me with the hex line... bravo
Like always awesome video, Drake. Hopefully, your fiance didn't have that many injuries. Best to both of u😊
4:49 should've at least renamed it Ivory the cat
I lowkey wanna see your opinion of MCU Synergy over the years in Marvel Comics.
rise fall and rise? imo it was fall ,rise ,and even bigger rise if anything. even in comics she was so limited
Now i just want they don't put away the relationahip with Franklin, having another villain being the godmother of a richards kid is just gold to me, val and Victor and Franklin and agatha
Since all of my Agatha knowledge comes from Wandavision and Marvel's Midnight Suns, this has been a wild ride.
I really appreciate this. Before Wandavision, all I could have told someone about Harkness is that she was once Franklin's babysitter. I either didn't know or had forgotten everything in between.
6:05 like the where gonna adapt that into kang dynasty
4:47 Oh gosh, they whitewashed the cat
Nothing like having a TV show to boost a character 's rating potential.
I really enjoyed agathas role she played in the Midnight Suns video game. Very underrated.
I’ve honestly been enjoying the show so far but yeah I feel like they should’ve still just kept her old design man
I do hope they age her back at some point. Genuinely over same body-type slim young heroines and heroes. Agatha was great as elderly woman, that she is.
Another great vid
You should do polls for people's favorite Marvel/DC characters like the one Schaffrillas did
Been a Marvel fan all my life with a massive collection of the comics, toys, DVD etc. Never heard of Agatha till her TV series. Can't say I find her appealing at all in it.
My first real exposure to Agatha besides Wandavision was Midnight Suns, the game, and in it I loved her for so many reasons, mostly because of how casual she is about being freaking dead! I'll admit I suspected her for a while but ultimately she became my second favorite character in the game... after Magik.
The moment you said they made her a straight up villain... my heart broke.
Antagonistic? I can live with that, evil? please no!
(MCU can keep her evil, i don't care)
You made me buy a Gwenpool comic. How dare you!
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I love it. Thank you :3
I can definitely see an Agatha and Loki teamup where the two are just total wild cards being a pain in everyone's collective asses.
Marvel knows that gooners buy comics too ❤
Kang Dynasty being a bad story doesn't mean it can't get adapted well; look at Old Man Logan, Civil War, and One More Day. I forgot about Agatha wrecking face on her first day with the FF lol. I am also fine with making Agatha a Wanda villain; and I like the red and purple visuals when they fight. Kathryn Hahn does a great job with her in the MCU, and I'm glad the show is pulling in numbers.
Are you doing a video on either the Absolute universe or the new Ultimate universe? Because I would like to know your thoughts on them
I dig the fit looking great!
Steve Jobs looking tho
@@shroomer8294better than looking like another billionaire like elon
@@Jp63a true
Can you please do a review on the Empowered comics Zoemg comics and The Pedestrian comics.
It’s kinda sad that the comics have to keep up with the movies now, the movies at this point are just doing their own thing and the comics have to change. Also why is Marvel so against old ladies?
I love Kathy as an actor, especially in the mcu, but I don’t think that Agatha was the right choice for her.
Personally not a fan of the MCU-fication of comics and especially Agatha. I understand the rogues gallery argument, but I don't think you can get more personal than Wanda and Chthon.
Before this and the introduction from Wandavision, i thought she’s been a villain because of her name: Agatha Harkness; Agath-a-Harkness; Agent of Darkness.
But I guess it’s just me
Hey there Comic Drake. I stubbled upon this video of yours and just wanted to say that it was absolutely amazing. You did some great research on this topic and I thought that it was wonderfully done. Thank you so much for creating and sharing this video with us.
P.S. Do you think that Rio in the Agatha All Along series is the demon that you were talking about or a sister to Agatha?
Jane Lapotaire is Agatha Harkness. 100% comics accurate. Casting her would have been an act of homage to Stan Lee and Jack Kirby's original classic Agatha Harkness.
So she’s atleast 12500? 1:37
I spent more of that video's run time than I'd like to have trying to figure out why Drake was dressed like a youth pastor at a funeral. The best I've come up with is it being cosplay of the villain from Scooby Doo and the Witch's Ghost, which would be a absolutely wild deep cut that's somehow still weirdly relevant to the video (if only through theming).
While I do really like some of the stuff they've been doing with Agatha I'm really not too keen on her being more of a villain (morso anti-villain) now, as I've always seen her as a uniquely heroic character in her own right, but I do have some confidence that will see her and more heroic roles in the future (kind of akin to Scarlet witches back and forth)
I am not super into the being a villain thing, but morally dubious is cool. Give us some morally dubious women who can both be a little older and charismatically hot.
I like the idea of by trope would be the villain in an older story, be the hag, but now may be flawed but not just stereotypicaly evil. Maybe just a little evil because she wants to cackle and make some people uncomfortable that wouldn't like a strong woman.
My dude getting sponsored by LAW FIRMS now 😯
10:43 "Agatha HOTNESS" is so real 😭
Love the mug. Still a little confused about which bits of Agatha's history were written before Wandavision and which ones were written after. I'm guessing anything where she looks young is written after Wandavision: is that right?
Everything about Valtor was after WandaVision.
@@ComicDrake Wow you actually responded. Thank you so much!😁
I'm still just really confused on why they decided to make Agatha a villain, for Wandavision I mean it would make sense if there were hints to it that could be extrapolated but she seemed firm in the hero category.
12:20 Wait, what?! Since when?!
Not gonna lie Agatha being a young hot girl is lame
If you ever see me in another comment section talking about, “I want to see Agatha with the fantastic four” blame this video
It is worth noting that the Blade one shot of the Darkhold event does have a cameo of B-Negative from the unreleased New Warriors book
If she first appeared in FF I'm surprised she appeared in the MCU and isn't considered FF character. I know Disney bought Fox so irrelevant now but at time of Wandavision being made I wonder if it was a concern. Or maybe TV and Film rights different.
banger vid as always!
Here's hoping Agatha has some good writing for the Disney plus series. I enjoyed her in Wandavision but her sudden turnaround of wanting to steal Wanda's hex magic just made no sense to me when Agatha is usually Wanda's mentor.
Great Video Drake!
ah yes that time Scarlet Witch went crazy after learning about her demon sons... years after she already learned about her demon sons & actually got to process her grief and move on.
oh Bendis you really are the Ken Penders of Marvel & DC
I thought there were not supposed to be ads in this guy's videos anymore?
Go to 2:53 of that announcement video.
I'd agree with you about the new Scarlet Witch series.. If they didn't bring back Joseph just to kill him off again. Meanwhile in parallel to that, Magneto dies a heroic and meaningful death. Only to be resurrected for no reason whatsoever issues later. What could have been Joseph's legitimate time to shine was undermined *again.*
God is there just one comic book marvel/dc character that doesn’t have a complex history of twist and turns death and resurrection turned evil then good and some out still good looking despite being from the 60’s
I don't know anything about the comics and some story elements of this is really something 😅
Congratulations on getting married, Comic Drake!
Okay so, I didn't know about this character. But... that face heel turn seems SUPER out of nowhere and frankly.... Rather stupid? Why not make a new character? Or heck, do what they did with Nick Fury, or, should I say, Nick Fury Jr.?
You know, have this either be her kid, or hell, since the multiverse is a strong element. Make the evil one a variant. From this little description, her older version sounded more interesting....
Oh no! Drake has a different opinion than people on the internet (the Steve Orlando, Sara Pachelli, Lorenzo Tammetta, and Jacopo Camagni run is good), whatever shall we do!!!
That’s pretty cool that folks are starting to take an interest in her.🐱
I've been reading Scarlet Witch vol 1 of the 2016 series and been loving Agatha Harkness's quips and how catty she is In the book! Mostly with how much she complains about being bored!
So basically the MCU and Marvel Comics hating any child that wasn't formed from a magical object had a big impact on Agatha's depiction. Or is that just what I got out of it?
oh nice the agatha teen mystery box is @12:14