I actually enjoyed this more than most Bagua forms it really showed that sort of football juke that they have and that inside trip kick which is another real strength. Also more strikes than a typical bagua form. Wish somebody would mix bagua and Baji and be able to get the fluidity and weaving grappling motions of Bagua with that directed explosiveness of Baji. I try to do this in my own work but I’m not a serious practitioner most of my hours are dedicating to meditation and shen gong and divination. Sadly nobody has time to perfect everything and I’m not willing to risk injury or increasing emotional sparring when I am finally feeling some small effects after meditating my whole life. But I do play around with fighting movements as entertainment and I think Bagua and Tai Chi really allow Baji to be more expansive. Xin yi and Baji seem to share a linear format with xin yi seeming more elaborate but less swift and fierce. I like the idea of open and indirect suddenly becoming explosive and direct. It mirrors what I have understood sparing when I was younger. I also generally dislike middle distance trapping distance. I find the majority of demos to be middle distance and almost completely reliant on reactions that aren’t there. In my experience there is no middle distance there is positioning, impact, and grappling. Middle distance is something that happens in a millisecond before impact becomes grappling or disengages and returns to positioning. The whole notion of if you strike I will do this... it implies a reaction time which I never see trained and I have never actually seen demonstrated. Western boxing actually demonstrates these reactions best with jabs and head movements. Because a jab can indeed intercept something more elaborate and head movements like punches are extremely hard to catch and really on guessing to counter. That’s what I see when trapping tested, people guessing, getting hit and ultimately going into panic. Some mma fighters use trapping against the cage where someone can’t back up and you can keep that middle distance but it changes milliseconds into a second or two before the person either grapples or crumbles. Almost all systems of Kung fu seem to imply I will be able to see your strike. I have never seen this demonstrated. Not even in two handed sword when I was sparing could you be sure of a strikes intention. You could easily be reacting to a feint and create an opening as properly block. I like Bagua because it is clearly demonstrating the principles of grappling of pummeling and it has served me well with what little jujitsu I have studied. It teaches you how to spiral your arms into a clench as well as how to use your feet to move someone of balance. I like Baji because it is about the delivery of maximum force over distance and a sudden and aimed way, I’m not thinking of trapping your hands but smashing your body. I like Baji has this descending distance of explosive strikes where a punch moves to an elbow to a shoulder slam and there isn’t a notion of optimal distance I can hurt you even if you are close to hugging me by understanding how to fall through people. It reminds me a lot of the Dempsey boxing system.
I studied under a master of wutan baji in taiwan, and I didnt learn any bagua but I know that wutan pairs baji with pigua and bagua and that my teachers teacher liu yunqiao learned it from one of its top masters
Interesting form, this would be from the Zhang Zhao Dong lineage. Offshoots or similar styles would be the bagua of Jiang Rong Qiao, Wang Shu Jin, Lu Shui Tian, among others. Another martial arts TH-camr Hai Yang was trained by his grandfather in this style. You should check out Mr. Yang’s lecture videos if you get the chance.
I prefer tai chi, but that's only familiarity probably, and that bagua did me wrong long ago. I was the only person to turn up to a tai chi class so the teacher, who knew I had an interest, offered a private lesson in baguazhang. Of course I took him up on the offer and friends, it murdered my legs in cold blood! Anyway, fascinating stuff, I really need to learn more about it, there aren't many styles about which I can say I know nothing but this is one of them
The style looks like a blend of the xing yi and bagua I practice just with more complex movements. Very cool.
This is some of the best Bagua I've seen on the internet. Always good to see the real deal.
All these year, I've never seen this style done with power.
Looks Great.
I have a Yin style dragon form with some of these moves. Good to see it!
This is simply superb. Well done.
Thanks Will.
Sweet single-palm change!!
I actually enjoyed this more than most Bagua forms it really showed that sort of football juke that they have and that inside trip kick which is another real strength. Also more strikes than a typical bagua form. Wish somebody would mix bagua and Baji and be able to get the fluidity and weaving grappling motions of Bagua with that directed explosiveness of Baji. I try to do this in my own work but I’m not a serious practitioner most of my hours are dedicating to meditation and shen gong and divination. Sadly nobody has time to perfect everything and I’m not willing to risk injury or increasing emotional sparring when I am finally feeling some small effects after meditating my whole life. But I do play around with fighting movements as entertainment and I think Bagua and Tai Chi really allow Baji to be more expansive. Xin yi and Baji seem to share a linear format with xin yi seeming more elaborate but less swift and fierce. I like the idea of open and indirect suddenly becoming explosive and direct. It mirrors what I have understood sparing when I was younger. I also generally dislike middle distance trapping distance. I find the majority of demos to be middle distance and almost completely reliant on reactions that aren’t there. In my experience there is no middle distance there is positioning, impact, and grappling. Middle distance is something that happens in a millisecond before impact becomes grappling or disengages and returns to positioning. The whole notion of if you strike I will do this... it implies a reaction time which I never see trained and I have never actually seen demonstrated. Western boxing actually demonstrates these reactions best with jabs and head movements. Because a jab can indeed intercept something more elaborate and head movements like punches are extremely hard to catch and really on guessing to counter. That’s what I see when trapping tested, people guessing, getting hit and ultimately going into panic. Some mma fighters use trapping against the cage where someone can’t back up and you can keep that middle distance but it changes milliseconds into a second or two before the person either grapples or crumbles.
Almost all systems of Kung fu seem to imply I will be able to see your strike. I have never seen this demonstrated. Not even in two handed sword when I was sparing could you be sure of a strikes intention. You could easily be reacting to a feint and create an opening as properly block. I like Bagua because it is clearly demonstrating the principles of grappling of pummeling and it has served me well with what little jujitsu I have studied. It teaches you how to spiral your arms into a clench as well as how to use your feet to move someone of balance. I like Baji because it is about the delivery of maximum force over distance and a sudden and aimed way, I’m not thinking of trapping your hands but smashing your body. I like Baji has this descending distance of explosive strikes where a punch moves to an elbow to a shoulder slam and there isn’t a notion of optimal distance I can hurt you even if you are close to hugging me by understanding how to fall through people. It reminds me a lot of the Dempsey boxing system.
I enjoyed this more than most Bagua forms too. More than most Xingyi forms as well really. This combination is so good.
I studied under a master of wutan baji in taiwan, and I didnt learn any bagua but I know that wutan pairs baji with pigua and bagua and that my teachers teacher liu yunqiao learned it from one of its top masters
So graceful yet with power
Nice form very well done.
Bravo!!! Done with war like intent.
Interesting form, this would be from the Zhang Zhao Dong lineage. Offshoots or similar styles would be the bagua of Jiang Rong Qiao, Wang Shu Jin, Lu Shui Tian, among others. Another martial arts TH-camr Hai Yang was trained by his grandfather in this style. You should check out Mr. Yang’s lecture videos if you get the chance.
Yea I think it’s from Zhang. I saw Hai Yang via his recent interview on Byron’s channel
I love Hai Yang. Thanks for the info!
Hope I can see the day that kungfu is learned and used widely again.
After WW3
great form
I prefer tai chi, but that's only familiarity probably, and that bagua did me wrong long ago. I was the only person to turn up to a tai chi class so the teacher, who knew I had an interest, offered a private lesson in baguazhang. Of course I took him up on the offer and friends, it murdered my legs in cold blood! Anyway, fascinating stuff, I really need to learn more about it, there aren't many styles about which I can say I know nothing but this is one of them
Fantastic
Wow, sharp!
Nice
I think you can create a Bilibili account for uploading these videos.
好功夫啊
🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾 Uussshhh
Is anybody hear because ole dude on IG? Bruce Leroy? Lol
Looks like dizzy tai chi with moves like parting the horse‘s mane and kicks like they do, just with spinning
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