The babies born with aids were so sad because they were completely innocent victims. It was such a time of fear and sadness. It was the worst thing that occurred during my childhood years. To watch so many friends and others die in front of us and we were helpless. Im so glad for the drugs that have been developed. I just wish these individuals could have had them during their time and in time. ❤
Although I’m no Royalist I do know that Princess Diana helped people see that you could not get it by touching these young men, women and children. She among others helped people see and talk about this awful disease. We all know someone if we were a young adult in the eighties. No one and I mean no one deserved this.
How dare someone not disclose their sexual history to a potential partner! Even in 2024, it’s still the ethical thing to do. It’s not just AIDS, it’s the rates of syphilis, chlamydia, ghonorrea, STIs in nonstandard locations, like the throat, esophagus, etc. Sexual responsibility is the key. Those who won’t practice it shouldn’t have sex.
My friend volunteered for God’s Love, We Deliver. She got fired from her job at a daycare center. She did not have AIDS, had no family or contact with anyone with AIDS, had no risk factors for AIDS. She simply answered a challenge from her pastor to minister to “the modern-day lepers.” In the same year this show was made, 1986, I was turned down by an oral surgeon to remove my wisdom teeth because of my answer to one question on a screening survey. Have you visited any of the following locations for more than 24 hours within the past six months? San Francisco, Los Angeles, New York, Miami, London, or the country, Haiti? I’d been visiting my family for the Christmas holidays in New York, that’s it. He turned me down. At that time I was single, a virgin, never used drugs, never had a blood transfusion, as if simply walking around New York could somehow make me a carrier! But in 1986, most people were governed by fear.
Progressive pastoral message for that age . Most churches only used AIDS patients to tighten their control pn the flock using the Wrath pf God narrative .
Interesting experience Marie. I was born in 1978 in Denmark. So the fear came here abit later like 1989-1990. But it was a fear and it was intense when it settled. They made it sound like everyone could die off. Now out of 6 million people, there are only 98 cases of HIV ayear or some. Its very low. What do you think was the origin of the virus? You think it came from Africa? primates. back then they had no cure and it was a dead sentence. Its horrible. Now they can treat it somewhat. Still giant stigma. I wish they gave this Prep medication to more people and not just for gays or people having sex with prostitutes. It should be something anyone could get hold of since its 99% safe. Chance would be small if using this on top of it. The fear was so much that I even feared blood test and they laughed at me and said only Danish or European women? only 3 in 6 months? no gay sex? I said no. And they wee almost making fun of my fears. I was paranoid for some reason since Ive had sex with a girl when 19. she was 19 also and I later seen her walk the streets to score for drugs. They said I suffered from AIDS phobia and I had none. I got even one more test done same day it came back negative to be sure double up. Imagine dentists back then refusing to treat patients? wow. when did this wave of fear die down in the states again?
In 1980 i was gang raped by 8 Cuban teens in a tack room at Calder race course in a tack room on the back stretch i waited in the Johnston virus clinic In Miami my heart was in my mouth the entire time when my results were negative I cried like a baby ive been negative ever since I was 15 years old at the time
I'm so sorry to hear about that. It's depressing and scary just hearing that. I never know what the right thing is to say after hearing something so tragic. I was a child born in the 80s, and never knew the severity until I saw these documentaries online. That's a terrible thing to hear, but thanks for sharing, and I hope you were able to get the supported you needed.
The secretly on the DL husband was not only in denial but also, very callous. And yes, he was a direct contributor to his wife's untimely and painful death.
yousay ignorance from todays standpoint with today s knowledge, but i rememer at the beginning of aids not even scientists n doctors were willing to guarantee that it could 100% NOT be transmitted via air, like aerosols when speaking standing close to someone, etc, people did not KNOW what ways of transmission were possible, so, of course, everyone kept their distance, some more so, someless so, just to be on the safe side! You cannot judge people s behaviour in the 80s towards people with aids from today s perspective! I personally was not much afraid, but i was certainly careful to avoid "body fluids such as sweat, saliva etc...People only got more relaxed when later on they found out it took a certain minimum virus load to transmit it and to get ill (i.e. more thatn what you get when slighty touching some ones sweaty hand, e.g.) ...Just like with the beginning of covid...
I know a gay man who married and had several children with a straight woman. When she died of AIDS, the story was always, 'Oh, she was a drug (not even IV) addict. HE doesn't have it though.' However, I am quite sure that he is a carrier. He now lives as openly gay, enjoying life with multiple relationships with men....
This is all true 😢 and guess what AIDS and HIV are still around so you have to really be careful I lost good friends to AIDS and they were young when they died.
It also does not help that HIV can mutate into an even worse strain, especially with the increased risks of HIV superinfection. HIV superinfection happens when an HIV-infected person becomes infected with another potentially worse strain of HIV by having unprotected sex with an HIV-infected person who carries that potentially worse strain of HIV.
im so glad that 40 years later society has been educated and become more compassionate. i was twelve or thirteen when Rock Hudson died. i was stupid and worried about casual contact too. i feel horrible that was i so stupid. by 18 i was living in Montreal and met a few people who had it. meeting actual people erased my stupidity in minutes. i just still feel bad that if i hadnt met people and figured out that love for all conquers fear of anything , i could have been an idiot much longer.
People always react with hysteria. The right wing failure to act in the early years is one huge reason why the LGBTQ+ are so militant now. I hope we get this all sorted but I doubt this will be fixed peacefully.
I don’t necessarily think people have become more compassionate. People were so afraid since nobody knew how you got it so of course they didn’t want to be near anybody who had it but I’m wondering if you’re saying things that were directed to gays from fundamental Christians. They are the ones that held up their signs that said God hates fags. They also said geez got what they deserved. Is that more what you’re referring to
Back then it was common that some gay people would find themselves estranged of their families because of their sexual orientation, so it was common that many would find themselves alone, stigmatized and ostracized, again, when handed a positive diagnose. The volunteers, and health workers in general, were the heroes, mostly nobody wanted to even be near people with aids, many were wasting alone, with nobody even wanting to clean around them, such was the fear and misinformation. I still remember this little psa that looked drawn by a child, and it was the picture of a kid throwing up his arms and the caption said "you can hug me, I won't make you sick!", it makes me cry to this day
It’s sad that so many people had to die to get some to alter their sexual practices. Call me what you want, and I suspect you will but misery loves company and many people back in the early stages of this decease were spreading their decease to others just because they didn’t care, they say they do but they don’t.
I wish there was more info available on the early victims... If anyone knows any good resources I'd be so grateful. I have been super obsessed with learning about AIDS history since the early 2000s I had my own hiv scare. I think many people that have been sexually active may have had such an experience .
He definitely murdered his wife unintentionally yet it was still done. Poor woman. That's often how it works the careless carrier continues to live as the ones they shared the virus with perishes quickly 😕
He could have gotten exposed prior to their marriage. I didn’t realize that those who were carriers (who will never get the disease) could still spread it.
@@pooddescrewch8718 Keeping secrets is NOT what spreads the disease and causes deaths. Whether your sexual preference is stigmatized or not, you have no right to make such a huge cruel decision about the next person's life. Take responsibility for your own actions and wrong-doings, rather than blaming others for not being into your lifestyle.
Man it’s amazing I was born in this time.. imagine being in the middle of this scary time and going to give birth.. my mom had a blood transfusion in the mid 80’s and she could’ve easily gotten aids.
I was born in 84 and my mom was a different RH factor than me. They were pretty sure I was going to have to have a blood transfusion. My dad donated blood so there was no risk. Now they have a shot to correct the problem with RH factor. She also had it with my brother in 90 and it was no nearly as big a deal.
Unfortunately, @marielavizcaino3987 isn't completely wrong about HIV/AIDS still ultimately being a death sentence, especially if the HIV-infected person doesn't have health insurance and can't afford the antiretrovirals to delay the progression to full-blown AIDS. Some HIV-infected patients don't respond to antiretrovirals.
@@thecajunphoenix ty for the kind words-so many people may find it funny or stupid or whatever their opinion is but we nor did I understand what happens behind doors even with our own at times. Again ty for your kind words the other comment above came after my sister died too WASNT from aids but it hurts when humans laugh at one another with such pain. Ty again and God bless you
The ending of this special really gives off the vibe of a horror movie. From the dying patient with the face full of lesions at 46:19, to the camera shot of the sun going down, and finally the sinister music playing in the outro, while the camera zooms off the room of an AIDS patient in New York. Truly scary stuff.
@@Mr.Majestic77 Only if they were the very few of infected from hiv (1%) , the Elite controllers which never will have aids even without any treatments ( I read a case of a English infected in 1982 when he was just 8 years by a blood transfusion (he was hemophiliac and never had any symptoms. of aids. and he is now 40 or more years...), but unhappily that are cases very rare...Unfortunately, the people of the video and other millions in the world as Rock Hudson and Freddie Mercury hadn't any luck and died.
It’s very rare for a prostitute (or any woman for that matter) to give HIV to a man. Women are the ones who are at a much greater risk of getting it from men. Men who claim they got it from a “prostitute” almost always don’t want to admit that they’ve been messing around with other men.
One problem back then was that when there were public blood donation clinics anybody could walk into the building and give blood. Now if you know that a blood donor drive is coming to your town you need to under go a full medical exam and have a blood test to make sure that you are safe. They also test the blood after you donate to make sure it’s safe. They didn’t do the tests back then
In 85 I divorced due to my husband coming out. When I talked to my dr about an aids test, he told me to give blood and they test for the virus and would contact me if positive.
Was that woman with the baby Susan Greenleaf? I saw her picture and profile in a 1987 edition of Newsweek. I remembered her name because we both lived in the Maryland suburbs of DC back then. It said that she got it from a previous relationship. I know she died in early 1987, but didn’t know she was married with a baby when she got sick. So sad. Just proof that this virus doesn’t discriminate. I hope her son’s okay.
You piqued my curiosity with what you mentioned here and I think I found something that may help answer your question, more on this in a moment. I guess I wouldn't bother in most situations but the dispare and sadness I felt the day I found out that this man who used to baby sit me and was very kind to me during a very tumultuous period in my life, had died from AIDS still brings me to tears at times today. He passed away in 1993 and I still miss him and I wish I got to see him again before he died. I did not find this out until many years later. That being said, I thought I would look up her son's name and without giving out too much, it appears he is still alive. I found something on Prabook.com about her husband and while it mentions Susan as being deceased, nothing of that sort was mentioned about her son. Apparently he also remarried 2 years after Susan's death and had at least one other child. Hope this helps and I hope my intuition is correct that he is alive and well.
I had and have some problems with my imunity sistem..And I know how difficult can be this..But..when I think of these poor people..who had many more difficulties în that desease..oh Lord..whayever they done..Lord forgive and take care..And take care of my dear people who died..from cancer..Lord bless..Amin...
What makes me soo sick it's not a crime to be gay I know I'm as straight as they come but soo what that doesn't matter so what it's a part of life but just because your gay or transsexual to get involved with someone under false pretenses gay or straight especially at that moment in time it's not fair.. my 2nd dad whom I loved and would have done anything for Don was gay ❤❤❤ he never pretended he was anything else but it's not fair to involve any innocent person to this situation and if someone holds any resentment or Ill will towards someone with different ideas it's not always a choice but a way of life my dad Don by choice don ❤ loved me and I loved him but he never pretended to be someone he wasn't and if AIDS hadn't taken him he'd still be here by my side holding My hand for my next surgery and I miss him every day I was there every day ❤ for him while he was sick ❤❤❤❤ I'll miss that beautiful smile , that one of a kind beautiful man I'll never forget til my final breath
@@richlisola1 Yes. Our modern technology today is "Superior," like the lake (pun intended)? I think the reason there's 80s nostalgia is because the era seems both familiar and kind of like a dream. The music and culture were great and still entertaining today, but it shows how we used to socialize before the internet, social media, and our cellphone took over our lives.
I lived in Waikiki back in the day...I later learned that gay men sold everything and moved there to die in Hawaii....i saw a few of them in the early 90 s......one gentleman was having breakfast one morning at Eggs and Things... looked about 35 or so super skinny and had a cane next to him....total gay short cropped hair and mustache look wearing a tank top and shorts....if i could have gone back i would have said good morning to him and engaged him in conversation...him just sitting all alone, but he looked happy....not that he needed my pity or conversation...
Aprox around 40 million live with HIV. But with meds, that have been available (for many years), so a large percent don't get full blown AIDS. I have a son who's uncle died of AIDS last year. He was both gay and IV drug user. So thru don't know 100% sure how he got it. His HIV crossed over to AIDS because he didn't take his HIV meds consistently.
They said the woman "didnt know HOW she got AIDS because she was not a prostitute nor an IV drug user..and she was married"? Was she THAT stupid that she didnt realize her husband gave it to her? Geez... Ok I have a question that I wish SOMEBODY would answer. This: back in the early 90s and even now, u hear people say " oh they check you for AIDS anytime you go to an emergency room". Yet a surgeon in 1995 who tested me, said that "AIDS tests are too expensive..We dont test you for it unless we think you got it". As I said, this was in the fall of 1995. So does anybody have any thoughts on this? Do emergency depts only test IV drug users or gays? Or is this just wishful thinking (people trying to convince themselves that they are fine)? I was terrified because in 1988 I was raped by a male prostitue. Thank God I just had a blood infection. 😌
They thought it only infected certain people at the time! Only the “scourge of society” and many were reported as saying “it killed all the right people” As for your blood test question I’m not sure why you didn’t get one? There was a peak in the 90s maybe they were short on tests or wanted to save some for those they thought were high risk. Glad you were not infected
Rubbish. How many got this from contaminated blood products. Hospitals knowingly gave infected blood and factor eight to unsuspecting people who are still waiting for compensation.
What about babies or wives/husband's who are unsuspecting of their spouses' illicit behavior? How are they "choosing" hell? A relative of mine, married for 45 years to the same woman, got AIDS and Hepatitis C from a blood transfusion after an accident. This virus isn't a "punishment," it affects everyone in some way. It doesn't discriminate. What a callous comment. But for the grace of GOD....
As we speak there's an Actor named Joe Breen who has Full Blown AIDS. He was one of America's Hottest Soap Actors. He played Paul Slavinsky on Loving, Will Jeffries on Guiding Light and Scott Eldridge on it's Sister Show As The World Turns. He was Outed by The National Inquirer and lost his job. He got by on a Pension but he lost alot of status. So Many US Soap Actors had to keep their sexuality on The Quiet. Chris Bernau (Ex Alan Spaulding #1 Guiding Light) Terry Lester (Ex Jack Abbott #1) The Young & The Restless.
For the whole world shined with clear light and none was hindered in their works. Over them only was spread an heavy night,an image of that darkness which should afterwards receive them.
I wondered how the healthy brother was doing and if he were still living now. The sad reality is that this was from the 80s and the sick twin was already at end-stage disease and developed cancer. The odds of surviving and still living today may be 1 in a billion. The treatment that allows most people with HIV/AIDS to become undetectable and survive wasn't available until the mid 90s. Even if he were living today and progressed that far without treatment, it would still be a terminal condition and there wouldn't be enough time for chemotherapy and anti-viral drugs to recover him and send the cancer into remission.
@@ritemolawbks8012 Yeah, there is no doubt he would have passed decades ago. I was just wondering whether he actually received the bone marrow transplant & whether it bought him additional time. There have been cases of people who have eliminated the virus completely after bone marrow transplants. The Berlin patient, he received a bone marrow tp in 2007 from a Dr who was naturally immune to hiv & it completely eliminated the virus from his body. What led to the bone marrow tp was he developed a bone cancer so they had to wipe out his bone marrow to treat it. Unfortunately even though he remained free of hiv the cancer returned & he died last year. Recently another patient had the same procedure " the London patient".. They are free of hiv now as well.
Doctor Kanayo Peterson's TH-cam channel is forever etched in my memory, I wish to thank you for helping me relieve my hiv and aids symptoms with your herbal medicine for two weeks. Through you, I became hopeful that I could live again.
This documentary was made at a time when it was less understood, research was still ongoing, it was usually a death sentence, & people did not fully understand what it was so they were extremely scared . Also, I understand what you're saying and would love to agree with you, but unfortunately the parents fear would be valid even today because there have been rare reports of HIV transmission through human bites deep enough to draw blood. Especially if the biter had any open sores/cuts in their mouth. Today there's PeP for emergency situations of exposure to HIV , but back then they hadn't developed it yet . That means if Ryan had bit the child hard enough to draw blood while Ryan also had accidentally bit the side of his cheek earlier hard enough to have a cut that had not healed yet , there's a very tiny possibility(but not non-existent ) he could've transmitted the virus. So it's actually understandable why the other kid's parents were freaking out .
The babies born with aids were so sad because they were completely innocent victims. It was such a time of fear and sadness. It was the worst thing that occurred during my childhood years. To watch so many friends and others die in front of us and we were helpless. Im so glad for the drugs that have been developed. I just wish these individuals could have had them during their time and in time. ❤
@@NinaAlgodude it's the 21st f****** century. Stop thinking like a f****** homophobic ignorant bigot and get with the picture.
how dare you.... you vile witch@@NinaAlgo
The volunteers were angels. They brought comfort to the dying when no one else wanted to touch them.
Although I’m no Royalist I do know that Princess Diana helped people see that you could not get it by touching these young men, women and children. She among others helped people see and talk about this awful disease. We all know someone if we were a young adult in the eighties. No one and I mean no one deserved this.
@@headron66 Thank you Thistle for reminding us of her lovely memory.
Princess Di was an angel unlike her husband and his family. I won't speak ill on the queen 👑 out of respect for the UK.
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After they kill you then they try to comfort you.
Those poor babies. Breaks my damn heart. 18 months old with no place to call home and sick all the time. It’s just beyond cruel
How dare someone not disclose their sexual history to a potential partner! Even in 2024, it’s still the ethical thing to do. It’s not just AIDS, it’s the rates of syphilis, chlamydia, ghonorrea, STIs in nonstandard locations, like the throat, esophagus, etc. Sexual responsibility is the key. Those who won’t practice it shouldn’t have sex.
20:36 haunting image of the poor guy dying and twin towers in the background. RIP all of these poor souls
I noticed that too ! 🙄
...I observed exactly the same...
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My friend volunteered for God’s Love, We Deliver. She got fired from her job at a daycare center. She did not have AIDS, had no family or contact with anyone with AIDS, had no risk factors for AIDS. She simply answered a challenge from her pastor to minister to “the modern-day lepers.”
In the same year this show was made, 1986, I was turned down by an oral surgeon to remove my wisdom teeth because of my answer to one question on a screening survey. Have you visited any of the following locations for more than 24 hours within the past six months? San Francisco, Los Angeles, New York, Miami, London, or the country, Haiti? I’d been visiting my family for the Christmas holidays in New York, that’s it. He turned me down. At that time I was single, a virgin, never used drugs, never had a blood transfusion, as if simply walking around New York could somehow make me a carrier! But in 1986, most people were governed by fear.
They still are! Look at all the masked morons!!
Progressive pastoral message for that age . Most churches only used AIDS patients to tighten their control pn the flock using the Wrath pf God narrative .
Don't know why they picked on London, there's a crap ton less HIV there than in many hick small town communities in the US
Interesting experience Marie. I was born in 1978 in Denmark. So the fear came here abit later like 1989-1990. But it was a fear and it was intense when it settled. They made it sound like everyone could die off.
Now out of 6 million people, there are only 98 cases of HIV ayear or some. Its very low. What do you think was the origin of the virus? You think it came from Africa? primates. back then they had no cure and it was a dead sentence. Its horrible. Now they can treat it somewhat. Still giant stigma. I wish they gave this Prep medication to more people and not just for gays or people having sex with prostitutes. It should be something anyone could get hold of since its 99% safe.
Chance would be small if using this on top of it. The fear was so much that I even feared blood test and they laughed at me and said only Danish or European women? only 3 in 6 months? no gay sex? I said no. And they wee almost making fun of my fears. I was paranoid for some reason since Ive had sex with a girl when 19. she was 19 also and I later seen her walk the streets to score for drugs. They said I suffered from AIDS phobia and I had none. I got even one more test done same day it came back negative to be sure double up.
Imagine dentists back then refusing to treat patients? wow. when did this wave of fear die down in the states again?
Wow great story 👏
In 1980 i was gang raped by 8
Cuban teens in a tack room at Calder race course in a tack room on the back stretch i waited in the Johnston virus clinic
In Miami my heart was in my mouth the entire time when my results were negative
I cried like a baby ive been negative ever since
I was 15 years old at the time
I'm so sorry to hear about that. It's depressing and scary just hearing that. I never know what the right thing is to say after hearing something so tragic. I was a child born in the 80s, and never knew the severity until I saw these documentaries online. That's a terrible thing to hear, but thanks for sharing, and I hope you were able to get the supported you needed.
What’s being Cuban got to do with it?
The secretly on the DL husband was not only in denial but also, very callous. And yes, he was a direct contributor to his wife's untimely and painful death.
Just what I wa thinking.
The question was about feeling guilty of murder . Its man slaughter if it was unintentional as he stated it was .
@@markeywestskies6503same here!!
Degens
Exactly.....what a narcissist he is ..
These were dark days. I lost coworkers to this disease. Just awful.
Indeed 😢
Damn...those poor little infants. They had to suffer because of the ignorance surrounding AIDS...it excludes no one!
It was heartbreaking when the little 3 year old said "I'm never ever going to hospital again, I'm going to stay home". I so wished he didn't have to.
yousay ignorance from todays standpoint with today s knowledge, but i rememer at the beginning of aids not even scientists n doctors were willing to guarantee that it could 100% NOT be transmitted via air, like aerosols when speaking standing close to someone, etc, people did not KNOW what ways of transmission were possible, so, of course, everyone kept their distance, some more so, someless so, just to be on the safe side! You cannot judge people s behaviour in the 80s towards people with aids from today s perspective! I personally was not much afraid, but i was certainly careful to avoid "body fluids such as sweat, saliva etc...People only got more relaxed when later on they found out it took a certain minimum virus load to transmit it and to get ill (i.e. more thatn what you get when slighty touching some ones sweaty hand, e.g.) ...Just like with the beginning of covid...
Dying alone, ostracized, full of shame is the cruelest of things!
Indeed.
Thomas why shame?
@@trauma6829 that's how HIV/AIDS was treated at the time, people with it were alienated from society
Shame is from humanity no respect. Osterized yes and dignity forget it.
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20:57 you can see the Twin Towers. They are gone too just like the people in this documentary.
I know a gay man who married and had several children with a straight woman. When she died of AIDS, the story was always, 'Oh, she was a drug (not even IV) addict. HE doesn't have it though.' However, I am quite sure that he is a carrier. He now lives as openly gay, enjoying life with multiple relationships with men....
what's your point? you are going to prove something?
This is all true 😢 and guess what AIDS and HIV are still around so you have to really be careful I lost good friends to AIDS and they were young when they died.
Its killing more people every single day, maybe the drugs help prolong your life but are thry are cure?..... no
How many is a lot?
@@jackbrown4120 one
It also does not help that HIV can mutate into an even worse strain, especially with the increased risks of HIV superinfection.
HIV superinfection happens when an HIV-infected person becomes infected with another potentially worse strain of HIV by having unprotected sex with an HIV-infected person who carries that potentially worse strain of HIV.
The view of the two towers from the hospital bed is haunting.
Yes!!
im so glad that 40 years later society has been educated and become more compassionate. i was twelve or thirteen when Rock Hudson died. i was stupid and worried about casual contact too. i feel horrible that was i so stupid. by 18 i was living in Montreal and met a few people who had it. meeting actual people erased my stupidity in minutes. i just still feel bad that if i hadnt met people and figured out that love for all conquers fear of anything , i could have been an idiot much longer.
It was a terrifying time and no one seemed to have an answer. I’m glad you matured and educated yourself and now act much more compassionately💕
People always react with hysteria. The right wing failure to act in the early years is one huge reason why the LGBTQ+ are so militant now. I hope we get this all sorted but I doubt this will be fixed peacefully.
I don’t necessarily think people have become more compassionate. People were so afraid since nobody knew how you got it so of course they didn’t want to be near anybody who had it but I’m wondering if you’re saying things that were directed to gays from fundamental Christians. They are the ones that held up their signs that said God hates fags. They also said geez got what they deserved. Is that more what you’re referring to
It absolutely is murder when you give someone a disease that caused their death. Absolutely.murder.
Agreed!
He didn’t intentionally do it..
Tom hanks in Philadelphia, this reminds me of that movie very sad
Sameee
Movie was based on a true story
I remember seeing this in my 9th grade class. When AIDS was first heard of, there was mass panic because at first nobody knew how it was truly spread
Sadly, St. Vincent's Hospital in NYC closed April 2010. The nurses there were outstanding.
Back then it was common that some gay people would find themselves estranged of their families because of their sexual orientation, so it was common that many would find themselves alone, stigmatized and ostracized, again, when handed a positive diagnose. The volunteers, and health workers in general, were the heroes, mostly nobody wanted to even be near people with aids, many were wasting alone, with nobody even wanting to clean around them, such was the fear and misinformation. I still remember this little psa that looked drawn by a child, and it was the picture of a kid throwing up his arms and the caption said "you can hug me, I won't make you sick!", it makes me cry to this day
I remember that poster!
Thanks 4 posting this. Very important piece of history.
It’s sad that so many people had to die to get some to alter their sexual practices. Call me what you want, and I suspect you will but misery loves company and many people back in the early stages of this decease were spreading their decease to others just because they didn’t care, they say they do but they don’t.
Special place in hell for the parents who abandoned their children dying of AIDS.
I wish there was more info available on the early victims... If anyone knows any good resources I'd be so grateful. I have been super obsessed with learning about AIDS history since the early 2000s I had my own hiv scare. I think many people that have been sexually active may have had such an experience .
He definitely murdered his wife unintentionally yet it was still done. Poor woman. That's often how it works the careless carrier continues to live as the ones they shared the virus with perishes quickly 😕
He could have gotten exposed prior to their marriage. I didn’t realize that those who were carriers (who will never get the disease) could still spread it.
Its not murder if its unintentional
The lesson to learn here is not to stygmatize people's sexual references so that people no longer keep secrets because secrets can kill .
@@pooddescrewch8718 he INTENTIONALLY had unprotected sex outside of his marriage. MURDER, it is.
@@pooddescrewch8718 Keeping secrets is NOT what spreads the disease and causes deaths. Whether your sexual preference is stigmatized or not, you have no right to make such a huge cruel decision about the next person's life. Take responsibility for your own actions and wrong-doings, rather than blaming others for not being into your lifestyle.
Heartbreaking. These poor people. What dark times :/
The man who says he didn’t murder his wife is in denial
The babies broke my heart most
Man it’s amazing I was born in this time.. imagine being in the middle of this scary time and going to give birth.. my mom had a blood transfusion in the mid 80’s and she could’ve easily gotten aids.
I am an 83 baby so I think about it a lot. If I had been born a hemophiliac, I would have had it.Ryan White didn’t deserve his fate.
I was born in 84 and my mom was a different RH factor than me. They were pretty sure I was going to have to have a blood transfusion. My dad donated blood so there was no risk. Now they have a shot to correct the problem with RH factor. She also had it with my brother in 90 and it was no nearly as big a deal.
Thank you for this upload. Thumbs up. Good video on AIDS at that time.
Highly possible those kids could still be alive. 1980s were no joke.
So sad 😭thankfully aids isn’t a death sentence anymore.
Claro que sigue siendo sentencia de muerte
Unfortunately, @marielavizcaino3987 isn't completely wrong about HIV/AIDS still ultimately being a death sentence, especially if the HIV-infected person doesn't have health insurance and can't afford the antiretrovirals to delay the progression to full-blown AIDS.
Some HIV-infected patients don't respond to antiretrovirals.
i lost my cousin to aids in 2019. he didnt knew he was hiv +
Wowww we are almost the same my cousin died of it in 2017 she knew she chose not to do any treatment at all her mom humiliated her I was horrified
@@gracielacanales9548well that was a dumb move lol
@@gracielacanales9548 Her egg donor is an AH for humiliating your cousin.
May your cousin rest in peace.
@@thecajunphoenix ty for the kind words-so many people may find it funny or stupid or whatever their opinion is but we nor did I understand what happens behind doors even with our own at times. Again ty for your kind words the other comment above came after my sister died too WASNT from aids but it hurts when humans laugh at one another with such pain. Ty again and God bless you
@@gracielacanales9548 You're welcome.
The babies 😭😭😭
Contaminated blood and blood products, dirty needles and unprotected sex. That's how it was spread.
The bigotry is disgusting
Ryan looks so much like BOTH parents
Some of these people have to look back and feel like idiots
Some people never think about others and that they never know.
Your decisions can cost your life badly. So don't do anything dumb.
Covid patients also died alone and ostracised...
Crazy how little they knew back then!
The ending of this special really gives off the vibe of a horror movie. From the dying patient with the face full of lesions at 46:19, to the camera shot of the sun going down, and finally the sinister music playing in the outro, while the camera zooms off the room of an AIDS patient in New York.
Truly scary stuff.
A lot of these old documentaries looked like this
The horror genre was very popular in 80s pop culture.
All done on purpose. Everything is theatre. Believe nothing shown on a screen...
@@1dayfree Whatever.
All of them are dead now 😢
M TJ maybe they survived.
They are dead , yes. I confirmed.
Are All Of them dead?
1986 naturally.........................
@@Mr.Majestic77 Only if they were the very few of infected from hiv (1%) , the Elite controllers which never will have aids even without any treatments ( I read a case of a English infected in 1982 when he was just 8 years by a blood transfusion (he was hemophiliac and never had any symptoms. of aids. and he is now 40 or more years...), but unhappily that are cases very rare...Unfortunately, the people of the video and other millions in the world as Rock Hudson and Freddie Mercury hadn't any luck and died.
The year I was born. It's scary to think about. Thank God my parents never did really party and other things.
I remember the bar scene in the 80s. Wish people rejected cocaine like they rejected sex.
44:13 wait, what?🤔 prostitution is the oldest profession of all time.
It’s very rare for a prostitute (or any woman for that matter) to give HIV to a man. Women are the ones who are at a much greater risk of getting it from men. Men who claim they got it from a “prostitute” almost always don’t want to admit that they’ve been messing around with other men.
One problem back then was that when there were public blood donation clinics anybody could walk into the building and give blood. Now if you know that a blood donor drive is coming to your town you need to under go a full medical exam and have a blood test to make sure that you are safe. They also test the blood after you donate to make sure it’s safe. They didn’t do the tests back then
That’s all very true, it also took 5 years of research to even find a test for HIV. Awful when we look back on it.
That's the problem with the world they wait til something bad happens to want to take precautions.
In 85 I divorced due to my husband coming out. When I talked to my dr about an aids test, he told me to give blood and they test for the virus and would contact me if positive.
Was that woman with the baby Susan Greenleaf? I saw her picture and profile in a 1987 edition of Newsweek. I remembered her name because we both lived in the Maryland suburbs of DC back then. It said that she got it from a previous relationship. I know she died in early 1987, but didn’t know she was married with a baby when she got sick. So sad. Just proof that this virus doesn’t discriminate. I hope her son’s okay.
You piqued my curiosity with what you mentioned here and I think I found something that may help answer your question, more on this in a moment.
I guess I wouldn't bother in most situations but the dispare and sadness I felt the day I found out that this man who used to baby sit me and was very kind to me during a very tumultuous period in my life, had died from AIDS still brings me to tears at times today. He passed away in 1993 and I still miss him and I wish I got to see him again before he died. I did not find this out until many years later.
That being said, I thought I would look up her son's name and without giving out too much, it appears he is still alive. I found something on Prabook.com about her husband and while it mentions Susan as being deceased, nothing of that sort was mentioned about her son. Apparently he also remarried 2 years after Susan's death and had at least one other child.
Hope this helps and I hope my intuition is correct that he is alive and well.
@@acidbubblebath77do you think he’d be offended that people know he’s alive? I don’t get it?
9:28 I looked up Randy Anderson of Stillwater, Oklahoma and it looked like he lived until 2017!
Not sure that was him. The obit states he was survived by wife and kids.
I looked into this also and found evidence of an obit for a Randy Anderson in December of 1986.
It's just the way things were in those times
I had and have some problems with my imunity sistem..And I know how difficult can be this..But..when I think of these poor people..who had many more difficulties în that desease..oh Lord..whayever they done..Lord forgive and take care..And take care of my dear people who died..from cancer..Lord bless..Amin...
What makes me soo sick it's not a crime to be gay I know I'm as straight as they come but soo what that doesn't matter so what it's a part of life but just because your gay or transsexual to get involved with someone under false pretenses gay or straight especially at that moment in time it's not fair.. my 2nd dad whom I loved and would have done anything for Don was gay ❤❤❤ he never pretended he was anything else but it's not fair to involve any innocent person to this situation and if someone holds any resentment or Ill will towards someone with different ideas it's not always a choice but a way of life my dad Don by choice don ❤ loved me and I loved him but he never pretended to be someone he wasn't and if AIDS hadn't taken him he'd still be here by my side holding My hand for my next surgery and I miss him every day I was there every day ❤ for him while he was sick ❤❤❤❤ I'll miss that beautiful smile , that one of a kind beautiful man I'll never forget til my final breath
The 80s just made everything Erie.
The lake?
@@richlisola1 haha!
@@richlisola1 Yes. Our modern technology today is "Superior," like the lake (pun intended)?
I think the reason there's 80s nostalgia is because the era seems both familiar and kind of like a dream. The music and culture were great and still entertaining today, but it shows how we used to socialize before the internet, social media, and our cellphone took over our lives.
Bc they didn’t know
RIP to all those people who dies of AIDS.😘😘😘😘😘
Ryan had beautiful eyes. What a sweet boy
Yessss! Brown hair blue eyed so they stood out more
He is special and I still think of him. I dreamt the other night I met as an adult. We would of graduated high school together
fuck.... the music is more frightening than the documentary. lol
The poor little boo boos.😭. Sending prayers and bless up 🙏🙏🙏🙏
26:44
Such a cute little fat baby. ❤️
I lived in Waikiki back in the day...I later learned that gay men sold everything and moved there to die in Hawaii....i saw a few of them in the early 90 s......one gentleman was having breakfast one morning at Eggs and Things... looked about 35 or so super skinny and had a cane next to him....total gay short cropped hair and mustache look wearing a tank top and shorts....if i could have gone back i would have said good morning to him and engaged him in conversation...him just sitting all alone, but he looked happy....not that he needed my pity or conversation...
Dr. Terry Crenshaw 16:40.
I can actually smell the Freeze n Shine when I look at that hair! Lol!
Dan rather, the biggest liar on the planet, ruins the documentary.
Ryan bit him???? I have never heard that before in the reports.....
Oh it's still killing.
Sad
One of the FIRST things, dotMil does before you start your national service is a blood test.
I’m not eating that birthday cake 🎂!
Lol
Good God that woman’s nose was pointy 🤥 17:20
She looks like an alien.
I thought that too. 😲
Women is dead. What assholes. 😳
AIDS and all u can comment on alter physical features?
Omg this was filmed on my 13th birthday to think I was a child when this was happening
Not from women to men. VERY rare. This has not been proven. They tell you this so that you will be overly cautious.
1 week later he was dead? How can that be?
Note: don't mess with bisexual men
I wonder what happened to Alexandra
What are the AIDS numbers today? We don't hear much about it!
Aprox around 40 million live with HIV. But with meds, that have been available (for many years), so a large percent don't get full blown AIDS. I have a son who's uncle died of AIDS last year. He was both gay and IV drug user. So thru don't know 100% sure how he got it. His HIV crossed over to AIDS because he didn't take his HIV meds consistently.
17:40 a real life pinnochio
20:49 "Death and the Finality of Death" #psyop
They said the woman "didnt know HOW she got AIDS because she was not a prostitute nor an IV drug user..and she was married"? Was she THAT stupid that she didnt realize her husband
gave it to her? Geez...
Ok I have a question that I wish SOMEBODY would answer. This: back in the early 90s and even now, u hear people say " oh they check you for AIDS anytime you go to an emergency room". Yet a surgeon in 1995 who tested me, said that "AIDS tests are too expensive..We dont test you for it unless we think you got it". As I said, this was in the fall of 1995.
So does anybody have any thoughts on this? Do emergency depts only test IV drug users or gays? Or is this just wishful thinking (people trying to convince themselves that they are fine)?
I was terrified because in 1988 I was raped by a male prostitue. Thank God I just had a blood infection. 😌
AIDS test are too expensive?
They thought it only infected certain people at the time! Only the “scourge of society” and many were reported as saying “it killed all the right people”
As for your blood test question I’m not sure why you didn’t get one? There was a peak in the 90s maybe they were short on tests or wanted to save some for those they thought were high risk.
Glad you were not infected
It could also have been given via blood transfusion
What were you doing with the male prostitute? Did he demand payment? I’m confused.
Jesus, return right away.
Return what?
A promiscuous lifestyle is to blame
Your comment is testiment that so many humans just cannot progress.....
What ever happened to Alexandria, Tony, Harold Dow and Maridepth?
Dead. Unfortunaly. Would be great if they knew that HIV has treatment in 1986 or 87.
This is what happens when you live a lifestyle of free sex, or drugs, or both. That is what hell is. This is hell they chose.
Rubbish. How many got this from contaminated blood products. Hospitals knowingly gave infected blood and factor eight to unsuspecting people who are still waiting for compensation.
What about babies or wives/husband's who are unsuspecting of their spouses' illicit behavior? How are they "choosing" hell? A relative of mine, married for 45 years to the same woman, got AIDS and Hepatitis C from a blood transfusion after an accident. This virus isn't a "punishment," it affects everyone in some way. It doesn't discriminate. What a callous comment. But for the grace of GOD....
Ryan was adorable, I hope he's still here. Hopefully Google will give me information .
The fact that some people are purposely spreading it as a vendetta. Because they are sick in the head.
As my comments was removed when sincere i block the chanel
What’s with the Fatal Vision music
I think Sharon Redd got aids after being rap3d, too. My God. How infuriatingly unfair
The singer?
The big joke is safe sex. Chastity is possible
Godbless
As we speak there's an Actor named Joe Breen who has Full Blown AIDS. He was one of America's Hottest Soap Actors. He played Paul Slavinsky on Loving, Will Jeffries on Guiding Light and Scott Eldridge on it's Sister Show As The World Turns. He was Outed by The National Inquirer and lost his job. He got by on a Pension but he lost alot of status. So Many US Soap Actors had to keep their sexuality on The Quiet. Chris Bernau (Ex Alan Spaulding #1 Guiding Light) Terry Lester (Ex Jack Abbott #1) The Young & The Restless.
How did they know he is gay?
For the whole world shined with clear light and none was hindered in their works. Over them only was spread an heavy night,an image of that darkness which should afterwards receive them.
AMEN 🙏🏻
a straight woman should go with a straight man no bi sexuals
Unfortunately some people live on the down low (dl) 🤷🏿♀️
I'm sure they didn't know.
that doesn't mean anything
She didn't know
My God at 20:10 Dan Rather seems like a Robot.. Cold, Mechanical, Plastic, Ridgid, and Scary..
Wow. I guess this was his first time with an AIDS victim. But. He def looked very nutrel. He def looks like he's almost smiling. What an odd aura.
He’s your typical cold,unfeeling robotic lefty. 😕
@@ownSystem Dupers delight... Hence the twin towers focus...
Anyone know if Randy Anderson got to have the bone marrow transplant & what the outcome was?
I wondered how the healthy brother was doing and if he were still living now. The sad reality is that this was from the 80s and the sick twin was already at end-stage disease and developed cancer. The odds of surviving and still living today may be 1 in a billion.
The treatment that allows most people with HIV/AIDS to become undetectable and survive wasn't available until the mid 90s. Even if he were living today and progressed that far without treatment, it would still be a terminal condition and there wouldn't be enough time for chemotherapy and anti-viral drugs to recover him and send the cancer into remission.
@@ritemolawbks8012 Yeah, there is no doubt he would have passed decades ago. I was just wondering whether he actually received the bone marrow transplant & whether it bought him additional time. There have been cases of people who have eliminated the virus completely after bone marrow transplants. The Berlin patient, he received a bone marrow tp in 2007 from a Dr who was naturally immune to hiv & it completely eliminated the virus from his body. What led to the bone marrow tp was he developed a bone cancer so they had to wipe out his bone marrow to treat it. Unfortunately even though he remained free of hiv the cancer returned & he died last year. Recently another patient had the same procedure " the London patient".. They are free of hiv now as well.
Someone wrote that he lived until 2017!
@@frannyy9309 so it worked good
I looked into this and found evidence of an obit for a Randy Anderson of Stillwater, OK in December of 1986.
Doctor Kanayo Peterson's TH-cam channel is forever etched in my memory,
I wish to thank you for helping me relieve my hiv and aids symptoms with your herbal medicine for two weeks.
Through you, I became hopeful that I could live again.
He bit a kid and the parents are suing?.. Shame on the parents
This documentary was made at a time when it was less understood, research was still ongoing, it was usually a death sentence, & people did not fully understand what it was so they were extremely scared . Also, I understand what you're saying and would love to agree with you, but unfortunately the parents fear would be valid even today because there have been rare reports of HIV transmission through human bites deep enough to draw blood. Especially if the biter had any open sores/cuts in their mouth. Today there's PeP for emergency situations of exposure to HIV , but back then they hadn't developed it yet . That means if Ryan had bit the child hard enough to draw blood while Ryan also had accidentally bit the side of his cheek earlier hard enough to have a cut that had not healed yet , there's a very tiny possibility(but not non-existent ) he could've transmitted the virus. So it's actually understandable why the other kid's parents were freaking out .