Luxu is INNOCENT: We Were LIED To
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ส.ค. 2023
- Today we take a in depth look as to who the Union Cross traitor TRULY is and explore the origins of the events that led up to that specific moment. That's right, we may have been being decieved right along with the foretellers this entire time and its about time we let our hearts be our guiding key.
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Here's the secret, there is no traitor. MoM needed to sow the seeds of doubt/chaos amongst them to attract the true darknesses.
Correct. @fulinelite3163 and @illusionstudios you have pretty much uncovered the grand plan. Yes, the plan is to create The Chaos Creature itself and bring Ragnorak in Quadratum by making it's moon a Kingdom Hearts.
Signed Ray Chase
What for ?
100% I am totally believing this. Arguably they are... all traitors in their own way. But... realistically they aren't.
@@Cruzer871 to harbor the true feelings of darkness to prepare them to be vessels for the darkness entity’s
Pretty much this.
He set up all the foretellers to fight amongst themselves to start a war to attract the darknesses to trap in the digital world. He removed four out of the equation by trapping them in the digital world, two were destroyed in the real Daybreak town and the last and most powerful of the seven darknesses are trapped within the Foretellers, with 2 more possibly being trapped within Luxu and then potentially MoM himself. Then a "new" darkness being born not part of the original 13 darknesses, which might be what possessed Ventus and is actually Vanitas.
I think this is all cumulating to the MoM in pursuit to destroying all darkness, orchestrated a long term plan from his ability to see into the future to basically perform multiple Ragnarök's and great tragedies so he can kill his students, himself and anyone or thing involved to destroy all the darkness from the world. While Vanitas is sort of a blind eye to the situation, since new Darknesses can be created. And the grief and terrible things MoM is doing to destroy all the original 13 true darknesses is in vein, once he completes his genocide. It will just lead to new darknesses to take the same place from the hearts of those he put through suffering.
It is implied that during the cut to Guia and then back to Luxu and Ava, Luxu revealed what he thought he knew. Namely, that there was no traitor and that the Foretellers were Darkness Bait. Ava takes that poorly and attacks, but if Luxu had just observed and kept his mouth shut, the Bell wouldn't have tolled. You know, the thing the Traitor causes.
Basically, Luxu doesn't believe the Master when he slips in their last conversation that he has a way to save the "sacrifices". He misread the Master's intentions, as the passage states. Further, The Master doesn't say their is no Traitor, he says mentioning a Traitor in the Book has purpose. I prepose The Master was talking in this way to obscure the fact that he is creating the Traitorous Luxu right at that point. He is getting Luxu and Us to assume their isn't a Traitor to make Luxu doubt. Planting the Seed.
Thus, Luxu has that conversation with Ava and tells her incomplete information. The Truth he believes. But we see regularly, Kingdom Hearts' characters believe in Truths that are wrong all the time i.e. Nobody cannot grow Hearts and shouldn't exist.
So, Luxu is the Seed of Mistaken Truth (Unintentional Lies) and acts accordingly. May your Heart be your guiding Key.
I've saying since THE BEGINNING,that you cant trust ANYTHING that the Master says.
My heart became a heartless when it heard: " ava is the traitor "
I need time to process and accept this.😓
Speaking of Ava going rogue, here's my favorite theory: Xigbar/Braig/Bragi isn't Luxu. *He's Brain.* We know Brain survived his encounter with Luxu, and that Luxu passed his No Name down to him after explaining some of the goings on, and we know that Brain decided he was going to be a "glitch" in the system and has read the Book of Prophecies. What if he and Ava worked together to trick the Master of Masters by making him *think* that Luxu was the traitor, when in reality Luxu simply did as he was told. I mean, just look at the names - Braig. Bragi. Brain. They're practically identical names! Ava is known for impersonating other Masters, and Luxu explained what his role was (and thus how the MoM knows what he knows) so it would make sense if she came up with this idea with Brain.
(Speaking of Ava and her impersonations: did anyone else notice that Invi changed her color scheme at the end of KH3? She's usually blue, but in that scene her clothing changed... to pink.)
Fun! I wouldn’t put it past Nomura. I have seen compelling evidence that there are two Brains in KHUX
That last observation is pretty crazy. Obviously it could be nothing (or they changed it purposefully to distinguish her from Ira who has a similar color scheme), but it's quite the difference, especially when none of the other foretellers seem to have a difference in color scheme.
Wow. The master of masters is so peak as a villain. I can't wait to see him in action.
but is he a villain really?
Well... war genocide and poor choices and no results for it all seeing as darkness can't be entirely wiped out
Yup, the Ava traitor idea was the prevailing theory until MoM literally called Luxu the traitor. And I mean…multiple things can be true at once. By giving Brain the book of prophecies, she disobeyed the MoM, and Luxu is the red herring
We've seen the MoM manipulate the other leaders, in my mind Luxu and Ava are the same, being manipulated into thinking they're the "traitor" but they're all doing exactly what the MoM intended, obviously he already knows how it'll play out.
While I don't necessarily disagree, I have to point something out. Part of Luxu's role was to not interfere, right? But... Isn't he interfering by telling Ava all of that? Also, what about when Luxu sends the True Dandelion away? Or talking to (and saving?) Brain? The way I've read the situation is that Luxu, by learning of the Master's true goals, started acting on his own but still otherwise fulfilling his role because... Well, it was written. Luxu seemed pretty disturbed by the Master's plan and because what he observes would be seen by the Master and end up in the book, there's only so much he could do without the Master being aware. Even one of the Darknesses accuses Luxu of interfering, and even though Luxu says that is only in regards to the Dandelions, is that actually what the Master said? Even so he seems to have saved Brain so how is that not interfering? Like, I think Ava is -A- traitor in the sense that after learning the truth she might have gone on to do her own thing but it seems like Luxu is guilty of the same.
I like this, but why do u think the MoMs didn’t say there were two traitors? Or do u think that’s just a writing error?
@@cosmicty8660 Simplicity and convenience in storytelling. Saying there's more than one traitor would just unnecessarily complicate things. Saying there's more than 1 might open up the possibility that the Foretellers would figure out there wasn't really a traitor initially.
Besides, I think you could argue they were all traitorous to some extent. Weren't alliances forbidden, yet they were taking sides and in doubting each other they were all hoarding lux which was also against the Master's teachings, right? Still, they were all more or less trying to do what they were told instead of asking what was right. They didn't let their hearts be their guiding key, really.
I think there's alot of ways you could spin it but this feels like some Nomura 5D chess style writing.
@@SirBertLeaman u got a 5d chess brain homie
Not to mention him covering the gazing eye 👁️ in missing link trailer. He is the traitor.
Luxu is the Traitor who makes more Traitors. He is the Seed from which Betrayers sprout. See the information about how Xigbar recruited Marluxia into the Organization, or stole Subject X to influence the recruitment of Axel and Saix, more Traitors.
Or how about the way he watches Xehanort's life path, but allows it to play out to create a man who would literally stab his best friend in the Back (Backstabber).
Thus, Luxu is the source of Traitors, so he is THE TRAITOR.
THANK YOU.people have been calling me crazy for Years for saying THERE IS NO TRAITOR.
Ava is the true traitor. She is the only one who veered from her roll by changing one of the five members on the list of dandelions
She didn’t change anyone. She gave the Book of Prophecies to Brain and not Ephemer and it still went to Ephemer anyways. They said “It was her one act of defiance.”
@@thegummiphoneThat, and the Master probably foresaw this. Everything happened the way it was foretold anyway (up until ReMind).
i like to think Ava "veering from her roll" is exactly the masters intentions. pretty much everything that happened up till this point has been planned by the MoM, we already know exactly how manipulative he is writing the book of prophecies exactly as he did to manipulate those reading it knowing very well people are not gonna do what it says.
@@ozzyd9522 The question became centered around what happens if you defy the Book. Does the book rewrite itself, and would you even be able to know it?
we see MoM clearly manipulate Aced, Gula, unicorn face and Invi, it stands to reason it's the same for the rest also. I think Nomura wants us to think Ava really did defy the master, only for us to find out later that MoM already intended for that to happen.
The foretellers were bonded to the master but not to each other
I haven’t followed kingdom hearts lore in awhile but I thought it was common knowledge in the fandom that there was no traitor, the Master of Masters wanted to see what the foretellers would do if they thought it was one… let me know if I’m remembering this incorrectly
The traitor bears the sigil, I believe he didn’t tell them all who the traitor was to raise doubt but only Luxu was given a name with the X in it. Also, this is still a theory, there is no common knowledge for who the traitor is unless you accept that MoM refers to Luxu as the traitor.
That could be it as well. He wanted to bait out the true 13 Darkness's and used the negative emotions that came from the foretellers and the war to do so
@@TheHeartsDivergenceI feel there’s similarity between sora and the master of master
The glitch in sora eyes look like the gazing eye they both know the fate can’t be change no matter what you powerful you’re
That won’t they both have sense of humour could they be related
Ava being the traitor is honestly outright implied to me if there is one. Also while I agree that the foretellers are only about business, the MOM and luxu feel like the exception which is great imo
Yeah definitely a more father/son relationship going on there
@@TheHeartsDivergencehow is Luxu feeling he sacrificed his body and his personality is this all worth
Bro, it’s been so long since I watched these cutscenes, I’ll take your word for it.
The eye let’s the MoM see the future. He probably knows about something luxu will do in the future that will deem him a traitor
Luxu might be an awesome character to me cause luxu is like a messenger but also a watcher that monitors the foretellers an also sora with the master of masters
A Catalyst is something that causes a reaction without undergoing any changes or being directly affected by the change it causes. The traitor is still technically Luxu
I’m really interested in finding out the method that Luxu uses to inhabit bodies. Clearly it’s a method different than what we’ve seen before and it would seem a more perfect version of it. He doesn’t require his vessels fall to darkness and he doesn’t need a keyblade. It’s probably some form of lost magic or something.
What if it has to do with the box?
@@Violet_Plum_Gamings MoM is still ilive having memory of luxu and the box is a medium to return as a hearth like Malificent did in Kh2 after coming back form KhUnionX
@@Shej I have no idea what you just wrote but I’m gonna pretend you’re trying to tell me that it has nothing to do with the box.
You are by far my favorite kh content creator, I could listen to your voice and theories for hours!
before even watching I had to like and comment. I love your vids because of how professional, comedic, and the types of proofs you use. its all very logical yet creative.
ava is kairi's grandma and she was sowing the seed of light within kairi by her stories of the ancient times
which worked .... i guess
What I don’t understand is what Gula tells Ava about the Lost Page, “It talks about “the one who bears the sigil.”” I come to mean that to be the Recusant Sigil, aka the “X” that Xemnas gives to the old Organization as well as on Sora’s clothes in DDD. Ava’s name doesn’t include an X, but Luxu’s does. If again that is meant to be a red herring, then that’s the end of it. But you mentioned that you think everything in the Book is truthful. So if that’s the case, how does the Recusant Sigil tie in to Ava?
yes. the book of prophecy is bullshit at worst, and SELF FULFILLING PROPHECY at best
The Lost Page was faked by the master
@@dillonyoung5502 but every Book of Prophecy had a missing page. Unless we go with the MoM wasn’t 100% truthful in the Book then I just don’t see how that would work. 🤔 unless the actual Page says all will fall short and become a traitor… and he gave Gula a false page indeed and kept the only real page. 🤔
LuXu is the traitor plain and simple, read it in his name ffs it was so obvious. Luxu abandons the light for darkness, what Luxu told Ava is "I AM THE TRAITOR" Ava wanting to end things to save her friends falls for Luxu's plan while he was given the TASK of recording the future he was given the ROLE of traitor. Ava knowing the truth was her downfall.
I mean, I think we've all kinda knew this if we watched the cutscenes. It's refreshing to see Luxu given a fair case.
Man I'm kind of split on the matter as I do feel like the master has lead both Luxu and Ava to become traitors in their own right. So far we know that Luxu, who despite not agreeing with the master's plan, decided to go through with his role, but he playing it loosely as he done things that were gray and questionable at best as he do stuff like sending the true Dandelion through the Ark, confronting the lingering darkness, and his deal with Brain, which we're still not sure on whether or not he possessed him or not. Regardless of the situation, I felt like he did break his role when it came to Brain as I found it weird that neither he or the Dandelion leader were present when Skuld and Ephemer came to the real world. Great video as always, can't wait for more to come :)
Hmmm was he not supposed to send the dandelion through the ark? I’m curious because I don’t remember any info saying that was against the plans
@@realitierney I think the Darkness Luxu encountered that time called him out for interfering? But Luxu just said that the Master says the weirdest stuff and continued on.
@@nine7702 Exactly. Luxu told the Darkness of because he knew the truth. Because the Book of Prophecies the MoM written isn't entirely truthful of the future. It was a bait and trap to lead the Darkness to pave the road to their own ruin. I mean, as he said, Luxu succeeded in his role....so then how come the BoP never mentioned anything about Sora abusing his Power of Awakening? Because the MoM deliberately didn't put it in.
@@DragonRoost1 OHHHH I GET IT NOW
Hehe I wonder what the Foretellers would think about this whole thing
I just want to offer a counterpoint, being the Traitor is Luxu's role. Even if he never betrayed the MoM or the other Foretellers, his *role* in the Master's plans was the Traitor. And also look at every group he's been a part of *aside* from the Foretellers. Xehanort's classmates? Sat back and let Baldr kill them all. Ansem's Apprentices? They all got their Hearts extracted. The True Organization? All part of his job, no real loyalty. He may not have been a traitor to his Master and friends, but everyone else? They're free game.
This is the first video I’ve seen of yours. I’m a minute into the video and already you’ve referenced every single one of my favorite games in some way (KH, TWEWY, Persona 5, Danganronpa). I think I love you.
To the Question what makes Luxu a traitor. Weeeeeeeellll....
How about talking over his role.
Fighting with Ava which is against his role.
The thing that he has the X in the name mentioned on the traitor page.
Or just the thing that naming him traitor makes it real that a traitor exists. The word itself is maybe meaningless for the master all he wanted is to describe Luxu in a vague way so that him making the actions "the traitor does" fulfill him as the traitor and brings the others to the conclusion there is someone betraying them.
It really goes back to Hunchback of Notre Dame and the traitor thing becomes clear. Luxu is Quasimodo and was told to stay hidden. Quasimodo went to the Feast of Fools when Frollo told him to hide away in the Bell Tower. This is also why Xigbar’s Story is called “The Fool”. “That’s why you and this box need to stay out of sight”. The respective story which represents Lust is Cinderella. The Keyblade War was the Royal Ball, and Luxu actually wanted to be a part of it. We see him with the No Name Keyblade as Kingdom Hearts is summoned over the battle field.
However, Esmerelda and Phoebus represent both Ava and Gula. Frollo also calls Phoebus a traitor for saving a family from a burning building because of Frollo’s witch-hunt. And we know of course what Frollo thinks of Gypsies.
I suspect Gula to be the true “Traitor” not just for his desire to summon Kingdom Hearts, but because he is set up to be a gluttonous hero. He’s told not to trust his companions and basically some it all him self. He was set up maybe harder than anyone else. Gula is a show off like Zeus. Gula is Sora, Hercules represents Sora, ergo Gula’s thunder-like keyblade. Gula was the one with Ventus in the warehouse- because he was there just before Strelitzia was killed. The cutscene timeline lines up because of Strelitzia’s Chirithy looking for Player.
Darkness even says to Maleficent that they did not want her to find out what happens in Olympus’s story. Every world had a Princess except Olympus. The world’s story mostly focused on Hades, but Hades is like Darkness- immortal, based on an idea, kind of on fire, and shows up when you acknowledge them.
I actually do not believe Luxu or Ava is the traitor. I think the traitor is someone we are ALL very familiar with.
Let's recap. The foretellers work hard to prevent the Keyblade War and due to distrust and conflicting roles end up destroying the world and all their unions by fighting in one, but the bit at the end of the book of prophecies was all about how darkness would prevail and light would expire, which does happen. But NOT in their time. It's the fight against Xehanort that that happens.
Then Sora changes the timeline by abusing the Power of Waking.
Now, Sora had been given the sigil in Dream Drop Distance so that Xehanort could keep track of him during the Mark of Mastery Exam. Sora abused the Power of Waking and changed the timeline, something that the Master of Masters seemed to take into account.
Also, while doing so, Sora encountered an entity calling itself Darkness when he went into Ven's heart during this segment. I honestly believe that Darkness went from possessing Ventus to possessing Sora in this instance.
The Master of Masters told Darkness that there was a realm beyond his imagination, where neither darkness nor light existed, not in the way it exists in the Kingdom Hearts universe.
Sora, in Quadratum, a realm on the other side of reality, does not have darkness in it. Yet a darkseid forms in the trailer and Sora is fighting it while the Master watches.
What if Sora brought Darkness to a realm where darkness had not existed before because Darkness possessed Sora. Sora, bearing the sigil, would be the traitor.
While I respect your enthusiasm, I must ask how Sora can be a traitor to someone he has never met, doesn't even know exists, and who frankly deserves betrayal considering his intentions are omnicidal in nature? I feel like you're really stretching the definition of the word "traitor."
@@miro.georgiev97 This theory looks at overall cause, which Sora is 100% on board with. He fights for the Light.
If he is responsible for bringing darkness to Quadratum that can very easily be a betrayal of that cause.
I like to think that MoM was being literal. Luxu is a traitor, not to everyone else but to the MoM himself. I doubt Luxu's body hopping has gone unnoticed by MoM, and given the fact that MoM has the eye on everything that has happened so far and effectively going to happen implies 2 things:
1. He knows exactly what everyone is going to do.
2. There is an END to the story/the No Name keyblade itself.
So when MoM says Luxu is the "Traitor," he *could* be talking about being one to the Union leaders or he could be referring to something in the distant future. A choice that Luxu makes in the end. As for the No Name and the Book of Prophecy, I bet it'll be destroyed the moment everyone else realizes what it is, or at least that'll become the priority. Because once it's gone, MoM can no longer see the future.
I think Luxu’s betrayal will happen in the future, where he turns against MoM. Maybe Ava will end up siding with the Master in the end, or won’t have a chance to rebel. Or whatever Ava does in the end goes unnoticed by the Master. Or Ava is pretending to be Luxu so Luxu’s betrayal is really Ava’s betrayal. But then who is Luxu? I’m sure Nomura will do something we won’t expect until we look back at the breadcrumbs.
No, his body hopping wasn't a betrayal. He was meant to keep watch over the future keyblade wielders and guard the box. But here is my question. Why are we assuming the MoM is referring to him or the keyblade wielders or the forces of Light when he calls Luxu a traitor? I mean...did he not quite literally betray the forces of Darkness that thought him an ally?
“The truth is what you see with you eyes, not what you hear”
Man two months good to see you post.
*"Not only have you the power to inflict pain, you also have the power to plant seeds of doubt in one's receptive heart. Sora will soon begin to doubt himself. It will cause him to hesitate, and that hesitation will turn to anger. That anger will fuel him to get rid of his apprehensions and move forward. He will pave the way for the future we desire."* -Xemnas
This quote basically describes exactly what the Master of Masters has done with the Fortellers. He caused them to doubt each other, and fight. Therefore allowing darkness into their hearts.
Love the videos man! Keeping us interested in this dry spell! By the way, you may want to enunciate a little more when you say “Daybreak Town”….😅
Each time I watch a video I find a new reference on your channel character
I think Luxu is The Traitor, but specifically, he is betraying The Truce The Master of Masters and Darkness made in their Little Game. The End of the Game says Darkness is to Win the Game. So, The Master is setting up Luxu to run inference against this Truce Contract because Luxu thinks he knows better. By doing this, he stumbled right into what The Master wanted in the first place.
He wanted Luxu's actions to create the Child of Destiny, the one who takes the Darkness Worldline away from Darkness.
Luxu is how the Master of Masters "cheats". Luxu will make moves that, for example, allow Brain to survive. This allow Eraqus to exist, and meet Xehanort. Xehanort created the Child of Destiny through his villian arc.
But Luxu will think he is doing these things of his own Will, and thus, the Darkness inside Luxu won't think the Master is Cheating.
Sora's team can't turn against each other because "Ok I believe you.jpg"
1:31 that’s all it took for a like lol. Good video! Ever sense twitter went to the dark side I’ve been playing KH. Glad to see theories and content still being made with no real hope for KH4 or missing link coming anytime soon.
I feel like the mere mention of a traitor created the traitor. A weird paradox. Mom planted the seeds of distrust, and in a sense I think everyone became a “traitor” at some point. Hence their names pointing to the themes of what causes them individually to falter.
Ahhhhh, that opening gives me chills every time 😌
Luxu isn't really traitor to the other Foretellers, pretty much all of them did things that violated what the Master told them to do. Regardless, the Master still specifically refers to Luxu as the traitor. It's one of the only instances we know he's telling the truth in this instance due to him being alone. The Master has been playing a careful game with Luxu, constantly feeding temptation in his heart to disobey his orders. Prime example being how he tells Luxu that he is allowed to watch over the Union Leaders, but that he cannot interfere. In the end, Luxu violates that order and meddles. The Master knew Luxu would disobey him and intended him to do so, Luxu even seems to infer this intention as well. At this point, it's also apparent that Luxu was being dishonest in his KH3 reports about having handed the Gazing Eye to one of the Union Leaders. It's likely that he stole Brain's body and kept the Gazing Eye for quite a long while after (I think he did this to save Brain btw, likely sending his heart into the future where he arrives safely in Scala with a new body and his memories intact). It's likely that the cloaked figure with the Gazing Eye seen in the Missing Link trailer is also Luxu. I also doubt Luxu was ever "keybladeless" as he claims. He has another keyblade in Dark Road. And it's likely that he had an original keyblade of his own prior to the Master giving him the Gazing Eye. Luxu was already a fully trained master by that point, so it makes very little sense that this was his first keyblade. He'd also need a keyblade to be able to transfer his heart into other bodies too. Plus he comes to learn at least some of the information written in the book that he was ordered not to read (such as the existence of a "Dark Seeker").
Please can someone tell me what song in the beginning is before his intro
Bro, your stuff is good
It makes sense given his manipulative nature, but that bit from the master you included at the end: "The truth is what you see with your eyes"? Over and over Kingdom Hearts has given us people with illusions, even Ava. I wouldn't be inclined to trust them too much either...
Ava tried to stop all of it, her thinking became different from the Master
good catch
I got an ad and then the Danganronpa showed up and I was confused until the scratch record 💀💀💀💀
Ok but how do i find the version of passion from your intro tho
Lol you killed me with the danganronpa part.
I like the way you think, man. This was all really interesting and intriguing. I've narrowed it down to two instances happening.
Either A), The Master of Masters made up the "traitor" role. And, planted this seed within them (Foretellers) to get the gears going on "Fate."
Remember, Young Xehanort mentions this in his diatribe about "TIme Travel."
You "cannot" forcefully change Fate. The events that are meant to happen WILL Happen.
Thus, I feel this is why the Master of Masters planted this seed. So, he could tip the scales of Fate and begin his "plan".
Or, B) there really is a traitor. And, it will eventually be shown to be either Luxu or someone in Sora's gang.
I feel these two are eventually going to happen and be shown. Maybe just one of them. But, we will eventually see what this meant in the future.
I'm just anxious to see what's in this Black Box! For God's Sake!!! Lmfao 😅. We've been waiting for years now!
Why are we listening to a guy with yellow eyes?
Anyway, I tend to agree with all of this almost entirely...yet, I still trust the Master's vision and plan, but I also wonder if Sora will find a way to willpower the darkness away without losing the masters. You know Sora! He's not the best with a keyblade and not a master of the power of waking, but still wills himself to greater heights to save his friends, both in combat and with cutscene powers, and even rewrote time twice. If anyone can surprise the Master, it's him.
The fact I just cuted my hair before watching this video made me smile
My shitty notifications aside, I'm glad to see a video from you dude. Always makes my day better.
"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it..."
In my opinion, none of them are traitors. It was all part of the plan. We can expect that the traitor may only be revealed in a future arc.
Maybe luxu will betray MoM during events in Quadratum.
Dude I can't believe they disabled Union Cross I hope missing Link comes out soon cuz I am really dying to play it!
This is such a good theory yooo
I feel like the purpose of luxu is to keep the balance between light and darkness. If you have more than the other, it flips to the other side. Union Cross is a perfect example of this. There is more light than darkness in that timeline, and it flipped over to darkness in the future, which starts in the keyblade war and birth by sleep
Got a feeling melody of memory, union x, dark road etc are going to be 3.5 3.8 bundle right before kh4 releases just like how they did 1.5+2.5 remix.
Had me blushin' in the intro, you oughta make some videos of just you complimenting us for 20 minutes 👉👈
Yay!! I love Traitor Ava theories! But yeah MoM wrote the book so that all of their roles would be seen as traitorous to the others. MoM stands for Master of Manipulators
Ive always thought axel was MoM, his voice sounds very familiar to his and axel kinda acts that way when hes ur enemy
It’s quite obvious the traitor was the hidden foreteller “mukuro ikusaba”
I'm not gonna lie. You solved it. This theory makes way too much sense. It makes so much sense I don't even wanna consider it a theory this is the fucking TRUTH. Subscribed. Now watch when KH4 comes out and you're totally correct. Your mind is gonna be blown man.
And about The Master of Masters making the Foretellers feel true Darkness Emotions, you forgot Luxu has to feel them, too. The Master explains Luxu has to use a Dark Corridor to escape the Worlds Destruction. Which means he must harbor the Darkness Lust.
So, the Master is using what he says about the passage to do what he did to the other five Foretellers but in a different direction. The Idea that there was no Traitor but The Master made the Five think their was,(making them Darkness Bait) causes Luxu to have Traitorous Angry thoughts about the Master and Darkness's Games. That draws Darkness in.
Thus, Luxu becomes the Traitor, and a Dark Vessel.
Would you consider Luxu’s involvement in Ansem the Wise’s banishment a betrayal?
I hope this could explain both of their endings when they meet each other when she does her role if it'll be in kh4
The first 30 seconds felt like Strelitzia tryna talk to ux protag 😂😭
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I have been saying Ava is the traitor along. And that we are not playing as the heroes but the real villains. That’s right sora and friends are the real 13 darknesses
Someone had to say it. Though Im still partial to there was no traitor or the master is the real traitor. The dude dangled the idea of leadership in front of aced like a carrot on a stick knowing full well he was arguably the most susceptible to darkness.
Yeah there was no traitor. Ava wouldn't have become one if the Master didn't say there was and caused everyone to fight
Thought Luxu was the traitor because he personally body hopped to keep an eye on his keyblade, instead of just letting it naturally pass on ftom user to user. Following the masters orders in his own way, not the intended way
uh no.
Well MoM told Luxu to prepare for what happens AFTER the keyblade war/book of prophecies, so he always suspected Luxu to survive that long one way or another
i don't think the lost page is necessarily a fabrication or that the existence of a traitor was itself a lie. it's like you say, it maps too well on ava's actions to be a complete coincidence. it's more that MoM made sure the words got misinterpreted to ensure that it would happen.
This was a good video.
I don’t think the master made up the lost page, betrayal happened but like Gula said - it was very vague and you could say most of the apprentices made betrayals in their own right. Ava’s is clear, Aced and Gula formed an alliance as well as Aced saying they had to go against the masters teachings, and Invi was like a spy for Ira. I can’t think of Ira’s though 🧐
Could it be that Ira's betrayal was not keeping the foretellers together and leading them?
I think Ira was too quick to fight the other unions. Like they were supposed to stay separate but they weren’t meant to harm each other. I BELIEVE Ira was the one who said they are fighting to make certain there are no winners 😩
Luxu is a very grey character, I'm not sure what's running through his mind or what he wants to do. I hope Missing Link makes his intentions clearer.
The master of master didnt lie. The master of master is the only one traitor
Wow, this makes sense.
You’re pfp/avatar looks like it belongs in The World Ends With You. 🙂
Luxu should have abandoned the box and taken out the master cause in the end there can be no light with out darkness
Wasnt there a theory that Ava was kairi's grandmother? I sont remember
I already knew this. The MOM lied and manipulated X events into happening. Once it was written, all that was needed was a catalyst, a trigger to sound the canons of war. By enforcing his will into the Foretellers and grooming them, he was able to seed the darkness within them and allow the war to happen as written.
Luxu was a victim. The Foretellers were the true vessels of Darkness, allowing it to seed and spread further into the hearts of all those in Daybreak Town. Player having the power of Dawn, was also a pawn in this sick game. Having been manipulated the entire time and forced to watch all those dear to him die.
Player reincarnated becoming Blue Hood, while his Darkness melted away into Xehanort. The War began over again. The Master intended for the Darkness to win, and for the war to start in the future, but it all began in the past.
If the book is based upon a lie, then who can say the MoM can actually see to the future?, and even then, is any future chapter true or just another plan?, man....
genuinely cute avater, I kinda love it XD
Watching THIS was all part of the plan. I fell RIGHT into the trap. DARN IT! I have NO CHOICE but to press the LIKE button. If I fall into another trap... I might have to... NO! I WON'T DO IT! I KNOW the plan is to subscribe and continue my addiction of KH theories. I REFUSE
WHERE YA BEEN BRO I HEEN WAITIN
The master of masters called him the Traitor???
When the master said he's a brilliant artist and a scholar, or when he's dreaming for world peace while planning its destruction... he is everything he said is
Yeah. I always knew he was the villian. He lied to the foretellers so that he could sow doubt and negative emotions between them. He's trying to make true darkness appear. I have a theory on what the master of master's ultimate goal. Perhaps his goal is to "reset" the world. He said he was planning for the world's destruction. So he could be planning to get the entire world destroyed so that he could create a new one where there's no darkness in people's hearts. The Black Box seems to be part of his plan. But no one knows it's contents. I think he also needs Kingdom Hearts for his plan to work. If my theory is correct, then the question is why would the master do all of this?
Finally someone who sees sense, as soon as i saw this scene it was obvious that Ava was the traitor
This is very perception changing and makes Luxu the unfortunate scape goat caught in a web he can't do shit about.
Yeah the Ava being slotted to fill that role. I still think in the kh3 secret ending the hearts over the moon with the organization hoodie is Ava as well. She’s got a plan y’all and it’s def Sora Riku and Kairi. KH4 about to be wild
I think the pure darknesses are what’s in the black box
I appreciate the video and theory and all but it is about that time Nomura should give us some answers. It’s been simply too long until any news. One does simply not let KH Fans wait THIS LONG for new reveals
We shouldnt have to, but some of us are unfortunately used to it 😭
I knew to a degree Luxu wasn't a Traitor and that one didn't even exist and at the same time AVA was the traitor, but this video gave me more evidence as to why so. Thank you for that, I enjoyed it!
*remember KhUx and cries*
I love theories
I'm new to your channel and I love it. Extreme nitpick here, but please remove the intro, or like shorten it to 5 seconds instead of 20. I like that your intro segment is split, but that intro is just tooooooo long my man.
Me with a new hair style looking taken aback lmao
Why would I lie to you😁
I don't think Ava wont be an enemy in this new saga, since there were 7 black pieces after all, and without Ava there will be only 6
The way he went about things the book the box the way he talks to the darkness as if there old friends not understanding one another the original traitor the Mom is or was one of the original darknesses The master and his mischievous ways his name is Loki
Namura was touching on false truths ... misinformation....believing something without thinking
Damn
so... the conversation between Luxu and Ava was split across two days months apart. It took Luxu a long time before Ava was sufficiently provoked into clashing. That said, Ava had already made plans to swap Sterletzia out two year prior to the Keyblade War... so perhaps she was a traitor long before Luxu coaxed it out of her
That said... I think Luxu was the sole traitor to the Master's plan. His betrayal? Refusing to accept one of the Ancient Darknesses within his heart.
I think what made Luxu the traitor was when he saved Ven.