Deep Space Nine Showrunner, Ira Steven Behr, on Captain Sisko and Avery Brooks | The Sisko Day
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Ira Steven Behr was the showrunner of the important and monumental show, Star Trek: Deep Space Nine. In this interview, Ira tells Cirroc Lofton and Ryan T. Husk how he felt and feels about the character, Benjamin Sisko, as well as the man, Avery Brooks.
Lets dive deep into Star Trek DS9 with this Ira Steven Behr interview!
Deep Space Nine Showrunner, Ira Steven Behr, on Captain Sisko and Avery Brooks | The Sisko Day - บันเทิง
Avery's Range as an actor is incredible. Far beyond the stars, and in the pale moonlight, were my favorite episodes.
My idea of Sisko post-show.
He returns to Cassidy and raises their child on Bajor. He has a farm to grow ingredients for his restaurant. He introduces Baseball to the Bajorans and creates a Bajoran World Series.
Jake writes a book, "My Father: The Emissary".
That's so good!🤯
Salute!
I don't know what inspired this event, but I'm definitely here for celebrating both Sisko and Avery Brooks while he's still around to hear it. Still an underrated actor, still a character which people are inclined to oversimplify, still my fave captain/commander/general space dude.
There are (at least) a dozen episodes of DS9 that I consider not only some of the best stories told in the Star Trek canon, but some of the best television ever produced.
“Nor the Battle to the Strong” - featuring Cirroc Lofton in a starring role - would hold up with some of the best episodes in M.A.S.H. ‘The Visitor’, ‘In the Pale Moonlight’, ‘Far Beyond the Stars’, “Trials and Tribble-ations’ and ‘Sacrifice of Angels’ demonstrate the amazing breadth and depth of the talent of the writers, actors and producers of this fine series.
It is a television show worthy of commemorating every year - and celebrating the marvellous and myriad talents of Mr Avery Brooks.
Totally agree. There are so many more episodes I would add to your list but I don't want to leave any out!
I can't get enough of Ira's insights. I appreciate how seriously Ira takes his role and the impact of DS9. Happy #TheSiskoDay and thanks @The7thRule ! ❤❤❤🌟🖖🏾
I quite agree. I always find Ira fascinating to listen to. Would have thought #TheSiskoDay would have been a day that Avery himself might have spared some time for to give his own insight/thoughts etc but well done everyone. I'll watch some more later.
It's really interesting to get the views of the showrunners. They have a deep understanding of the show more than anyone else. It's so fascinating hearing them talk about the characters and the stories behind the camera.
I"ve always imagined that Sisko's story "ends" with him being discovered on Bajor as having come back yesterday, living in the home he built to raise his baby with Kasidy (who obviously gets reports that there's activity on his land there to facilitate this). Excellent show! Thanks!
Avery Brooks is one of Star Trek's finest. My absolute favorite captain! I really wish for Avery to pick up his role in some form...
Best thing about Cirroc is that I can just flick a switch in my mind and still see and hear him as Jake, how he moves, everything he says... that's a testament to how he put his natural self forward when portraying Ben Sisko's son. Great show and happy The Sisko Day, LLAP!
Great, insightful conversation, and awesome backstories -- thanks for bringing this to us @The 7th Rule !
Thank you, Avery for being such a positive influence on my childhood. In the 90's I saw the first black male captain on TV. Someone who endured for me to envision a life that I could lead and be in charge. Thank you Avery for being a positive influence and role model to a child you never knew existed
DS9 is still the best Star Trek of all time imo. The way the story was told and the way the whole cast and crew worked, it was something so special that just went together perfectly. I first saw Avery in a show called Spencer when i was just knee high. i remember his powerful voice and Hawke and when he was a perfect cast as Ben. He can make you laugh or cry with just the shift in his voice and demeanor.
“In pale blue light” was one of the best episodes of Star Trek ever.
Really enjoyed watching this conversation, felt all the feelings. I wish Ira could show run another star trek show
What I would give to see Avery Brooks back in Trek.
Happy Sisko Day y'all!
I can't get enough of listening to Ira. I've met him at several conventions, and he is definitely one of the coolest people I have ever met.
This was such a great conversation. I appreciate Ira's insights about the character and the man who brought him to us. My mom and I were some of those fans who really were committed and tuned all the way in to DS9 from Day One. We definitely noticed some of the kinks that ended up being worked out, but we were patient because we love Star Trek. But, also, as Black Trekkies, it cannot be overstated how incredible and how impactful it was for us to see a Black man, a loving Black father, son, husband portrayed in such a rich and nuanced way on screen every week at the time. We were hooked! Top that with the facts that my uncle went to Oberlin with Avery AND we just so happen to share a birthday and we were having an absolute ball glued to the screen every week. I have rewatched the show a gazillion times, most recently with my kids. And I love it even more each time. So, it really makes me smile to see that The Sisko Day is a thing. 😁🖖🏾
Rather than dark, I think the better term would be realistic. Actions had direct consequences. Especially once the Dominion War began, the stories evolved quickly and felt like real stakes were in play. For many fantastic episodes of TNG only a few ever felt like real danger existed for the characters.
Yes percisely! Instead of a futuristic exploration shown with a near perfect humanity, it is like what would it be like if the Star Trek characters had to deal with politics and conflict the way we do. Just great!
Always enjoy listening to Mr Behr speaking. Always get some good insight
My favorite Captain of all time. Period.
Loved this show…always have been a huge Avery Brooks fan..since ‘Spencer for Hire’. He has been one of the most underrated actors. I wonder, how does Ira consume the today’s current events, specifically the issues of poverty, homelessness in San Francisco with the DS9 episode Past Tense? It’s seems so prophetic. I’m curious if he sees that connection and how he would explain it.
What’s interesting about the Wesley/Picard dynamic (which Ira touched on) is that Picard was annoyed by Wesley basically throughout the first two seasons, and warmed up to him in later seasons. When Wesley put on the red ensign uniform, that’s when you can see that Picard respects him as an officer. Arguably Wesley’s best episode “Final Mission” Picard tells him how much trust and respect he has for Wesley. And then later in “The First Duty” (possibly the best Wesley centric episode) Picard expresses how disappointed he is with Wesley having “lied” to cover up an accident. Fans began to appreciate Wesley over time as Picard did. At least until his final appearance in “Journey’s End” which was abysmal. But Wesley was also more grown up and not really a kid at this point. Picard’s attitude towards young children remained uncomfortable throughout the entire series, see “Disaster”. I don’t even recall Picard ever having a scene with Alexander (Worf’s son).
Please don’t talk past tense.. Avery Brooks is still alive.. for a moment you guys gave me chillies and I had to check up on Avery. Anyway awesome tee Romulans ale rules too 😊
Really love the Sisko character and Avery Brooks was/ is amazing, his character arc super interesting.
Maquis was a bit gritty bunch but also really good.
In regards to color of skin. Didn’t think about it, because I was too caught in the story going on. Like the nerdy collection of african masks 🎭 I think it’s awesome his culture interests.
I love the Sisko, love Jake and Nog as characters. Hell I love all you guys.
Benny Russel, Gabriel Bell and the Bond/ish villain. Loved it all and still do 😊
Yes I am so onboard in regards to Sisko day! 😊
what a great way to start off The Sisko Day!
always wonderful hearing from Ira.
A terrific way to kick off The Sisko Day. A great first panel discussion with Cirroc, Ryan, Malissa and Ira. Thank you to The 7th Rule! I especially liked hearing Ira's headcanon for Sisko's HEA on Bajor, and I totally agree with it!🙂👍🏻👏🏻🖖🏻💝
Shame you couldn’t get Avery to come to one of these. Would be fantastic to have Sisco on Sisco day
This will be a national holiday in the future
Has Avery Brooke been Blacklisted?
Haven't heard anything from him.
I hope all is well with him.
Great discussion. DS9 is my favorite ST show. Because this is Sisko day, I wanted to comment on one thing. I found the family dynamic of Benjamin, Jake, and Joseph to be believable and natural. I could picture them as 3 generations of a family. I liked bringing in the love of music, food, and baseball. It adds depth and is relatable.
I may be in the minority here, but I liked the Bajoran Politics story lines. After the occupation, old issues ranging from rivalry to hatred resurfaced. I find it to be believable and well-done. For a real-life example from around the same time, look at the Yugoslavian Civil War after the collapse of the Soviet Union. Fast forward, look at the ethnic, religious, and sectarian violence in the Middle East.
I hoped that as time went on and he got older Avery would have opened up and participated in the trek community. Of course he doesn’t owe us anything, but it would still be nice.
The Sisko day is my birthday. This will be easy to remember!
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In the Pale Moonlight was FIRE! My fave episode
Sisko day I'm here for it
Captain Benjamin Sisko is my all time favorite Captain in all of Star Trek. I would've loved to serve under Captain Sisko. He cared about the people under his command.
Agreed across the board!
Thanks, Ira and Sisko Day organzers
Sisko is the best captain!! That episode where he finally "moved" into DSP was touching.
I *was* there from the beginning with DS9! And then I wasn't there for a couple of seasons, and I kind of wavered in and out with seasons 6 and 7. I didn't really appreciate DS9 until years later watching the entire series start to finish on DVD.
I love In a Pale Moonlight, but it needs to be kept to something rare. If you do it every week it's not star trek anymore. When it's rare and only when there are no other options it's special.
had no idea about the response to In the Pale Moonlight. It is one of the best episodes in the whole of Trek for all time and that is a testimony to Avery Brooks and Andrew Robinson
I do enjoy a chat with Ira; his stories, his insight and his opinions on the show.
13:53 DS9 being darker show. Compared to what? - I'd say compared to TNG. TNG was a show that was literally brighter, the characters optimism and moral high ground was a little more on their sleeves and those darker episodes were spread more thinly across a broader canvas of the curiosities associated with exploration, anomaly of the week, comic relief stories and Data-centric stories. I think TNG had an air of innocence about it much of the time.
DS9 on the other hand carried the weight of a sustained multi-season arc centred around a war, testing the values of our morally conscious, ethically heightened heroes to the limit... But that's what made the DS9 characters fascinating. DS9 explored what happens when you throw a bunch of saintly 24th century Roddenberry humans in to a sustained war; can they stand true to their values or will they faulter? - and as a result we were gifted some of the franchise's best episodes.
25:24 "In the Pale Moonlight" - Fans had a problem with that episode? Really?? - It was one of the best episodes! 😀
Those weren't fans if they didn't like "In the Pale Moonlight."
They are changlings trying to undermine Star Trek.
This is the first time I heard it got a negative reaction at all. It is fantastic and it is on every "top 10" list for star trek episodes I have seen.
Great conversation!
Great podcast. Sisko Day is also my birthday!
I'm sad to hear that Ira doesn't see anything more for Sisko the character. What the heck was the Sisko learning and preparing for by going to be with the Prophets? I'm just so pissed and sad that he can't see a place for Sisko to beyond retiring and sitting on the porch till his sunset.
I wish I Picard 3, when they were lost and falling in the nebula, that when a bright appeared, it was revealed to be the return of Sisko. Then to have him help the story evolve, this truly bringing together all three shows TNG, DS9 and VOY. Sisko, I'm still keeping hope alive!
Where is Avery!?! Miss him so much. Picard missed a huge opportunity to bring back the Emissary.
I love the way he says "molten hot magma" lol
DS9 is my favorite Star Trek ❤
i'd love to sit down with ira and discuss DS9.
Sisko ( always AVERY) coming back from the Wormhole and settling on Bajor after some adventure that also wraps up whatever he was doing IN the wormhole, would be SATISFYING. We need a Star Trek: Sisko - either as a movie or a one-season Legacy.
Happy Sisko Day!
happy sisko day!
Great Episode.Thx for That. I love Avery Brooks/Cpt. Sisko soooo much. Big greats from munich germany ❤
Happy #TheSiskoDay
It would be really cool if Sisko could come back and get settled on Bajor in one of the new series or a Short Trek kind of thing.
Coffee in hand and awaiting the exciting day ahead! #TheSiskoDay
Raktajino? 😁☕
I was highly caffeinated that day! 😜
@@daveagreg It was such a great day! Emotional and great to have so many of us sharing the day together.
Reboot DS9 with Cirroc Lofton as Ben Sisko. That would be awesome!
Interesting to hear this happy ending for Sisko on Bajor. I wonder why we never got to see it on screen in the finale? The ending was very sad and dramatic for Sisko, Jake & Kassidy. Were they somehow expecting a season 8 arc? Also in the documentary where they pitch a season 8, Sisko only returns some 20 years later which I felt was odd considering Sisko's last words to Kassidy (Maybe a year, maybe yesterday) but ok that was a fictional current-day season 8 not a direct season sequel to season 7.
Maybe it is just a personal thing, whether people think the show is somehow "dark" or not. You could also reframe this as a question: Is the world of DS9 a world that you would like to live in? My answer: YES! Same goes for maybe all other Star Trek shows up to ENT. After that, it is just pure dystopia.
DS9 is peak star trek.
man a whole day for sisko and avery brooks couldnt take 30 min for a zoom call to make an appearance..
Too much fun. :D
Happy #TheSiskoDay everyone!
Stembolts here!
Getcha self-sealing stem bolts!
Just 2 strips of latinum.
I've only got one strip, would you be interested in a negotiation?
@@abidshussain *looks around for Quark* here you go my good patron! Safe travels.
I truly believe Kiapaka was a necessary element to the the Emissary, She help began the healing process and the commitment to Bajour.
Just catching up on these. I love the comment about making room for darker episodes and darker Treks; that Star Trek isn't a kids show! there's a new podcast in the works called "Dark Trek" and it is basically exactly this: Trek-based stories with a little bit of a darker edge to them. And I just think that's so cool
Regarding the question by Cirroc about how the Bajoran people would feel about Sisko going forward I'd note they would not have known what happened in the Fire Cave. Two died there and were never heard from again. Sisko immediately went to be with those in the wormhole and did not relay the story to Cassidy. As far as I know the tale of what happened in the Fire Cave was never told to anyone else in the show. The Kai may have been missed but her fate would have been unknown. After her encounter, Cassidy no doubt relayed where Sisko was but he never told her of happenings in the cave. One character that Brooks played that Cirroc didn't mention was when Avery Brooks played Jake as an old writer.
That was another actor, was it not? I think Cirroc forgot to mention the Mirror Universe version of Sisko though....
@@janena1976 In "The Visitor" older Jake was brilliantly portrayed by Tony Todd.
Im new to the podcast. I love those ‘family’ tee shirts and would love to know if they are available?
I love Cassidy and the actress deserves all the jobs that she can get but I couldn't help but wonder why Worf never turned around to ask her what happened to her relationship with his brother. 😂
17:50 DS9 Dark? I think a few people need to watch New BattleStar Galactica (the early 2000s versions) I would have to agree that DS9 isn't dark, unless you view it as a kids show, which it was not meant to be a kids show. Accessible to a wide range of audiences doesn't not mean kids show.
No one should scoff at In The Pale Moonlight. It's established in the Original Series that Starfleet has a freaking General Order to bombard a planet. (A Taste of Armageddon). Starfleet has done hard, necessary things before.
Good morning
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Would you reinstate the Sisko wall so there's more time for fans to leave comments? 😊
I'm steaming "Hawk" now
Hey all! For some reason I can't chat on my phone so laptop it is
Technology cooties strike again...but always glad when you're on!
Where's the Ira shower cam link?
ONETWOTHREEFOUR ONETWOTHREEFOUR! (that's a Fear joke since they got a shoutout at the end there. Ira will get it)
Serious, but hopeful might be a good way to describe DS9. They didn't shy away from things like mental illness, government corruption, homelessness, racism, excessive capitalism, power, etc. But they brought a positive spin and a sense of action to many of these things. And of course, DS9 turned gender and racial stereotypes on their head. One of my all-time favorite shows. And Avery Brooks as Benny Russell is something you can't forget.
When was talk about sisko coming back and setting down with kasidy and even Jake they was no mention about the baby kasidy feel pregnant in the show with sisko baby what happened to all that was it forgotten
What is Ira up to now? Outlander was never better than when he was there.
S3 was when the show got alot better
What's happened to Avery Brooks?
Like most Trek actors they put all their acting into their Star Trek role.
He moved on to other things. If you watch his post DS9 interviews, it's very clear that Mr Brooks is a man of many interests. Star Trek was not something he felt was a continuous presence in his life.
Avery Brooks is an accomplished jazz musician. He released a jazz album and went on to teach acting, becoming an associate professor at Rutgers’ Mason Gross School of the Arts, before he retired.
Check out ‘Captains’ - a documentary movie produced in 2011 with Bill Shatner interviewing other Star Trek captains: Avery Brooks, Scott Bakula, Kate Mulgrew, Chris Pine and Patrick Stewart.
Its sad Avery doesn't get respect while Kate "Bully" Mulgrew gets voice acting jobs for that Star Trek cartoon
Who wants a goatee ride!?!?!?!!
Slow down ira
Any captain that cooks for his crew or plays a musical instrument is automatically catapulted to the top of the list.
#1 Sisko
#2 Pike
#3 Riker
#4 Picard
#5 Jerrico
Let Garak blow up more Romulans, is what he said
Every messiah is reluctant, it seems to come with the job.
19:15 I didn't particularly care for the Bajoran politics stories either. Tho that had nothing to do with his race.
I don't care how many people disagree with me. Captain Sisco (Avery Brooks) was the sexiest character on DS9. Even sexier than Dr. Julian Bashir (Alexander Siddig), by miles. Maybe even light years. Dr. Bashir was great to look at because Siddig is absolutely a physicaly beautiful man, this is true. But, Captain Sisco becomes the focus because Avery Brooks brought a classy sexiness to his character that Siddig was unable to achieve with Dr. Bashir.
Why was it "necessary" to kill the Sisko character on the last show? He was a newlywed and had a baby on the way. I can't think of any of the white captains who the writers killed off at the end of th series that they starred in. I think that it was a racist move by Paramount.
He wasn’t killed off; he ascended (to be with the Prophets). Like Jesus, Muhammad and the Buddha - a suitable ending for the Emissary.
In the new Star Trek comic series, published last year, Sisko stayed with the Prophets for three years, and then was sent back to Bajor, to help the people there deal with another crisis.
@Noel Leggett I saw the "Prophets" do a lot of things on DS9, but I never saw them give a new body to a human who fell into a pit of fire, as Sisko did while fighting with Dukat. They did a search for Sisko and couldn't find his life sign anywhere on the planet. So as far as script writing, Sisko was dead, his wife was a widow, and Jake and his unborn sibling were orphans. No more DS9. No chance for a DS9 movie franchise. The animated show that you referred to sounds excellent, for another type of show. But if Sisko isn't leading the space station, there is no Star Trek DS9. There was no logical reason that Sisko would leave his family for years just to be taught lessons from the prophets. For 7 years they never had any problems contacting Sisko when they wanted to. They could have taught him using the prophecy"orbs" to communicate telepathically. But dropping Sisko into a pit of fire, and sending Worf, O'Brian and a few other primary members of the show to different assignments totally destroyed any chance of a Star Trek DS9 movie franchise. And that was and is very disappointing.
@@NickBusbeeFunkSchoolRadio I saw him start to fall. Then I saw him in the wormhole with the Prophets.