As a Big XII fan, when BYU fans warned us that Utah fans were obnoxious, I completely dismissed it as sour grapes from old rivals. But wow, not only are Utah fans everything BYU fans warned us about, but it’s far worse than I thought it could be. Ute fans run their mouths like they’re Alabama, USC or Ohio State. Crazy.
Utah, if The Big 12 doesn’t want to give you love, the PAC will always have a big welcome back wide open door waiting for you. Back to the PAC, where you belong and were always welcomed and respected.
@@ChaseEagleback No, what’s crazy is the way y’all are underestimating just how good Utah is. But it will all be clear soon enough after we win the league this year. The Utes run the B12 now whether y’all like it or not.
WVU is 0-2 all time against the Utes, so I'm looking forward to hopefully evening the series up and with a lil luck taking a lead in the coming yrs, though we won't play every yr... 😐.. That's the one thing I will miss about a 10 team league, getting to play everyone each season! Oh well, welcome to the conference, even if ya really don't wanna be here, lol. I think the fans will enjoy being here once they see how competitive and fun most of the games are to watch! And I believe most yrs the Utes will be right there at the end fighting for a conference title hopefully along side my Mountaineers!! 😁. Good luck, my friends in Utah, it's gonna be an exciting season I believe!! LET'S GOOOOOO MOUNTAINEERS 🏈🏀⚾🇺🇸
I think Utah will be a favorite to win the conference but I don’t see them going undefeated. One thing I will say is the Big 12 is a brutal place to play in. I also find it funny how they talk about home field advantage when they never played in Manhattan, Lawerence, Ames or Lubbock. All those places are very hostile places to play. I will also say Utes fans better wise up. OSU , Iowa state and Kansas are no teams to sleep on.
The big 12 went 4-1 against the ACC last year. Over the past 5 years, the bowl win rate for the Big 12 is 62.9% compared to the ACCs 42.9% win rate. Since 1998, the big 12 is over the ACC 37-36 in head to head matchups. The big 12 has had 4 current or former members in the CFB era compared to the ACCs 2 members. The narrative that the ACC is a stronger conference just because Clemson has had CFP national titles doesn't add up with the numbers for each conferences strength as a whole. Utah would be silly to leave closer regional opponents to go to a weaker conference, unless they just want an easier road in conference play.
@tarheel7406 1. Notre Dame is not a member of the ACC, so their CFP appearance doesn't matter. 2. If you are excluding everything Texas and Oklaholma did, then exclude FSU and Clemson since they are in a lawsuit to leave the ACC and are leaving. So by your standard of previous members not mattering, the ACC has had 0 playoff appearances. 3. Nothing in this doctored up copy and paste mess negates anything I said in the post you are replying to. 4. This was an extremely long winded way to say UNC lost the 2023 Mayo Bowl to WVU 30-10.
@@mrmonkeysays "Notre Dame is not a member of the ACC, so their CFP appearance doesn't matter." ND is heavily entangled with the ACC, must play ~5 members annually, and was a full member of the ACC for 1 of its 2 appearances. It's perfectly fair to count 1 of 2, but it isn't material., 7-4-2 still towers over 2-1-0. "If you are excluding everything Texas and Oklaholma did, then exclude FSU and Clemson since they are in a lawsuit to leave the ACC and are leaving' a_ The measure is current conferences adjusted for official realignment. b) Foolish BIG12 fans claim that the new BIG12 is better than the current ACC. c) Tier 2 football will be fungible, so the 4-team playoff history won't be an accurate measure of Tier 2 conferences anyway. "Nothing in this doctored up copy and paste mess negates anything I said in the post you are replying to. " The original post referenced both bowl games and the CFO. Bowl games are no longer an accurate measure while the CFP is. 'This was an extremely long winded way to say UNC lost the 2023 Mayo Bowl to WVU 30-10." UNC is not going to care about a meaningless bowl after a disappointing end to last season. UNC would never care much about playing WVU. All this to say that WVU will likely not make the Tier 2 cut while UNC will?
Conference realignment is about money and nothing else. Eventhough, yomark saved the big12 , he robbed the group of 5 to do so. Big 12 been crumbling since the big 8 days. But that doesn't matter, winning and dominance is what matter. Tv contract pay a winner for viewer ship. College football has always been rated and appointed championship vs winning all out. Good to see a playoff.
Utah belongs where it should have stayed: The PAC 2 + Utah. Coupled with San Diego St, (a school everyone wants), if Utah returns to the PAC, Arizona and Arizona State are probably not far behind for lots of good reasons. The Big 12 can keep Colorado and Prime. Prime is just one big headache and distraction. Stanford and California would jump at the chance to bail on the ACC sinking ship. Even UCLA would entertain the thought of erasing the multiple time zone travel burden, and come back to the PAC and quickly. Suddenly the PAC 8 + SDSU is looking very respectable and almost resembling a facsimile of its’ former great self. Utah, come back to the PAC where your great self belongs. Signed, a forever PAC loyalist. Go Cougs!
Did Moose seriously just lump WV o in with Cincy and he may as well have called us a 💩 program. May i remind you, in case you've never seen a college football game, that WV is not only The 15th winningest program in history but they went 9-4 last year and return 91% of their production including 2 QB's, 2 RB's, Multiple WR's and while we lost a few players on defense, we hit the portal and got higher graded players to fill in so the defense will be much improved. Even if i was not a mountaineer fan and someone asked me should they put $100 on WV or Utah to win the conference? I'm telling them WV everyday......I think Utah may be lucky to be in the Top 5 but, i think their cupcake schedule helps a whole lot.
I think Utah would be wise to wait and see what happens with the ACC before committing to anything. How many are going to leave the ACC? How much will the schools leaving have to pay to the remaining members? There are too many question marks right now and Utah is not desperate.
Look Utah Football is GOOD, they have a great Head Coach, and have begun to build a long-term legacy of outstanding college football. But if you feel you are so Great that being a member of the Big 12 is beneath you, please leave. Save us all the Drama. Really tired of all this b.s.
You bite your tongue when you’re talking about the Utes! And get down on your hands and knees and show some respect to your new King! Utah wears the B12 crown now.
I think the PAC 12 had a bit more dead weight than what Utah is going to see in the Big 12. Utah’s great, no doubt, but the week to week competition is going to be a bit different. It’ll be interesting to see how that plays out.
@@richaustin5849 that’s fine. Food for thought there: BYU is almost always tough for Utah and recently went 5-0 against the Pac. UCF is recruiting at a very high level. Cincy and Houston aren’t great, but that’s two teams in a league of 16, 1/8. The PAC 12 had WSU, OSU, Stanford and Cal, making 1/3 of the league kind of a cake walk. That’s not to take away from the difficulty of the four that landed in the Big Ten. The reverse effect is true too-Kansas State isn’t Oregon. I think it will be a bit different.
It took a last minute touchdown to beat the worst team in the Big12 last season. They should probably move back to the WAC or just stay in the PacTwo. They'll be lucky finish above .500 in basketball.
@@oliverwellsjr6702 To be fair, OSU is probably the only tough game on Utah's schedule. Maybe the late season trip to UCF as well. This is why so many people believe Utah will win the league. OSU has a tougher schedule, therefore more opportunity to get knocked out of the conference title game. The only saving grace for either team is you guys play early in the year. Losses early aren't as bad as losses late, which TBF - is stupid - but it is what it is. I'm not a "fan" of any team in the Big12, just a Duck fan that respects Utah's program. Take my opinion for what it is, my opinion. Regardless, I am excited to see this game as a fan of college football.
@@TirpitzLuminare I here u. Just seems like the media and Utah fan’s believe this a done deal already. I know how good they are but they can’t make me believe that there just automatically gonna come in this conference and win it and be the top team! That road comes through Stillwater.
@@oliverwellsjr6702 I mean that's why we play the games right? How many times throughout history has a team "looked past" an opponent and regretted it. Utah was supposed to be a PAC-12 title contender last year, but the insane number of injuries derailed them. Anything can happen. While I still think Utah has the best chance at winning the BIG12, it's not a foregone conclusion at all. I think the BIG12 is going to be fun to watch this year. I really think Utah @ UCF might be a trap game.
@@oliverwellsjr6702as long as we agree that if/when Utah wins in Stillwater, the Utes are sleepwalking into the CCG…then we’re good here. Utah will make you a believer on 9/21.
All the big 12 school have their home advantage. Ucf 80 degrees when utah is 60. The better big 12 teams are playing with depth and have great strength coaches
UCF definitely has a strong home field advantage but in the last 3 seasons they have four losses at home to Utah's one. If Utah had to play in Orlando in Augusts that would have been a tough game. Of course the best programs have depth and great strength coaches but so does Utah.
@@jonathanwistrcill1336true, playing in Orlando at the end of November won’t be the same home field advantage. The Utes will love playing in the nice Florida climate to end the regular season. We’ll likely be 11-0 heading into that game and will be able to “load manage” the playing time of our starters. So that road trip is really more of a nice vacation for the kids before the CCG.
We're not jumping onto a burning ship in the ACC but if any of the super conferences came calling we would be gone. Even at a discounted rate. Utah isn't loyal to the B12. It's all about a conference of convenience at this point. Sorry, but that's why we didn't sign onto the GOR and don't have a vote in the B12.
@tarheel7406 That's why the Big 12 is a 16 team superconference with a newTV deal, because it is burning. 🙄 It's pathetic how much you're trashing the Big 12 in order to make you feel better about the ACC.
I’ll be the first to say it. Utah football has became the biggest joke of all time. EVERYONE in the sports world is talking shit on Utah and thinks they’re a joke of a program. With this ACC talk it ruined Utahs reputation for being a weakass football team. Wouldn’t be surprised if they lost a lot of recruits because of this. Following Utah less and less as the weeks go by.
@@THEeyepatch11 I’ll be honest I was just voicing my frustration lol. I was just sick of people talking down on Utah saying they’re scared, weak, don’t want to compete in the Big12 blah blah blah. In my head I thought this could hurt recruiting for the lack on clarity where Utah will be.
I promise you people who cover the sport, coaches and players who have faced Utah have a deep respect for the Utah brand. Recruits want to go to place where they can win, grow their skills to hopefully get drafted and play in big games all things Utah offers.
It feels like BYU is starting to dominate us in basketball and football recruiting… Again! I hope this isn’t our last year, without the PAC 12, of relevance. Anyway, Go Utes‼️
Seriously. Was the pac 12 strong with 2 ranked teams, 5 teams lost byu, utah lost to 2 g5 schools. The big 12 never had a title team have those numbers. Bottom 6 in pac 12 are loser. You talk about washington, had Seriously bad years since the big 12 has been around. Utah is a good program. Do not make out all those things.
@marionsberries4077 in 2021 was the pac 12 a strong conference. At the end of the year, pac 12 with 14 schools had 2 ranked teams. Big 12, even with 10 schools, never had less than 3 ranked teams. Seriously, my writing better will not help utahs title look better. Byu beat 5 pac 12 teams. Utah lost to 2 g5 school. You do understand that's bad. 4 loses for utah. I hear a lot about Washington being great. The same Washington that has a 1 win and zero win seasons during the big 12 era. Utah is a good team, and I would say make the title game this year. But rolling the big 12 is not happening.
After reading your barely coherent attempt at a rational thought all I have to say is... what a "frantic and emotional" comment. Maybe you need to take a very deep breath and try again? Hilarious.
@marionsberries4077 lol you think byu fans are they only people who think this way. Look the other title year was not much better. You guys are the ones obsessed with the titles. " we won pac 12 2 out the last 3 years. We're rolling the big 12". This is what Utah fans say. Utah had a glimpse of big 12 running. Baylor got its average last year. AR 4.5 yards a carry. Baylor was the worst rushing team in the big 12.
I don't know any Big12 fans that disagree with the idea that Utah will compete for the championship. Where we get annoyed is when Utah fans talk about how they are going to run through the league and dominate it. It's important to remember that the Big12 is a stronger league than the PAC was and Utah will have to adapt to that tougher schedule. The Big12 (minus UT/OU) is 21-11 against the PAC over the last 6 years.
That was not true last year. Head to head record is important but so is the currant state of each program. In the final top 25 voting for the AP Poll and Coaches Poll the Pac-12 had 3 teams in the top 15 to the Big 12s 0. The Pac 12 was recognized by many as one of the best conferences in the country because of its depth.
It would be a huge mistake to underestimate Big 12 competition, but go ahead and drink that Koolaid. Utah could win the Big12, but so could 5 other teams. You are now in the moat competitive conference in the country.
@@jonathanwistrcill1336 Yeah but that is one year out of the last 6 I'm talking about. I actually don't disagree about last year. It was a rebuilding/down year for a lot of the Big12 but this year isn't a rebuilding year. The PAC had a great year but let's be honest, for the last decade or so the PAC has been very very weak. Even if we look at head to head just last year, a mid level Big12 TTU team nearly beat Oregon and a terrible and injured Baylor nearly beat Utah. Those were two mid Big12 teams against the top of the PAC.
Yes, Utah will dominate the B12. Yes, Utah is the new flagship program of the B12. Yes, Utah runs the B12 now. Any other questions I can help answer for you??
If you don’t like the Big XII, the Mountain West will probably take you back. That said, I hope Utah fans chill out and enjoy being part of the competitive Big XII in the heartland of America.
As a Big XII fan, when BYU fans warned us that Utah fans were obnoxious, I completely dismissed it as sour grapes from old rivals. But wow, not only are Utah fans everything BYU fans warned us about, but it’s far worse than I thought it could be. Ute fans run their mouths like they’re Alabama, USC or Ohio State. Crazy.
It's a curse man. Lots of 11-0 talk
Utah, if The Big 12 doesn’t want to give you love, the PAC will always have a big welcome back wide open door waiting for you. Back to the PAC, where you belong and were always welcomed and respected.
Oh, it’s bad.
@@ChaseEagleback No, what’s crazy is the way y’all are underestimating just how good Utah is. But it will all be clear soon enough after we win the league this year. The Utes run the B12 now whether y’all like it or not.
WVU is 0-2 all time against the Utes, so I'm looking forward to hopefully evening the series up and with a lil luck taking a lead in the coming yrs, though we won't play every yr... 😐.. That's the one thing I will miss about a 10 team league, getting to play everyone each season! Oh well, welcome to the conference, even if ya really don't wanna be here, lol. I think the fans will enjoy being here once they see how competitive and fun most of the games are to watch! And I believe most yrs the Utes will be right there at the end fighting for a conference title hopefully along side my Mountaineers!! 😁. Good luck, my friends in Utah, it's gonna be an exciting season I believe!! LET'S GOOOOOO MOUNTAINEERS 🏈🏀⚾🇺🇸
I think Utah will be a favorite to win the conference but I don’t see them going undefeated. One thing I will say is the Big 12 is a brutal place to play in. I also find it funny how they talk about home field advantage when they never played in Manhattan, Lawerence, Ames or Lubbock. All those places are very hostile places to play. I will also say Utes fans better wise up. OSU , Iowa state and Kansas are no teams to sleep on.
The big 12 went 4-1 against the ACC last year. Over the past 5 years, the bowl win rate for the Big 12 is 62.9% compared to the ACCs 42.9% win rate. Since 1998, the big 12 is over the ACC 37-36 in head to head matchups. The big 12 has had 4 current or former members in the CFB era compared to the ACCs 2 members. The narrative that the ACC is a stronger conference just because Clemson has had CFP national titles doesn't add up with the numbers for each conferences strength as a whole. Utah would be silly to leave closer regional opponents to go to a weaker conference, unless they just want an easier road in conference play.
Great points and I agree.
Football Playoff Appearances, 1st Rd Wins, Nattys (per Wiki 2015-2024)
ACC: 8-4-2 (Includes 1 of 2 ND appearances)
B12: 2-1-0 (Excludes OK; includes Cincy)
B1G: 12-5-2 (Includes Oregon & Washington)
PAC: 0-0-0 (Excludes Oregon & Washington)
SEC: 17-10-6 (Includes OK & TEXAS)
BCS Runner Ups - Champs (2000 - 2014)
ACC: 4-3 (Includes VATECH, MIAMI, ND)
B12: 0-0 (Excludes NEB, OK, TX)
B1G: 5-2 (Includes NEB, USC, ORE)
PAC: 0-0 (Excludes USC, ORE)
SEC: 6-10 (Includes OK, TEX)
Final Four Appearances, 1st Rd Wins, Nattys (per Wiki 2015-2024. 2020 N/A)
ACC: 9-5-3
B12: 5-3-2 (Excludes OK; includes Houston)
BIGEAST: 6-4-4
SEC: 5-0-0 (Includes OK)
B1G: 7-3-0 (Includes Oregon & UCLA)
@tarheel7406
1. Notre Dame is not a member of the ACC, so their CFP appearance doesn't matter.
2. If you are excluding everything Texas and Oklaholma did, then exclude FSU and Clemson since they are in a lawsuit to leave the ACC and are leaving. So by your standard of previous members not mattering, the ACC has had 0 playoff appearances.
3. Nothing in this doctored up copy and paste mess negates anything I said in the post you are replying to.
4. This was an extremely long winded way to say UNC lost the 2023 Mayo Bowl to WVU 30-10.
@@tarheel7406 Are you on the ACC payroll? You're in every Big 12 comment section. 🤡
@@mrmonkeysays
"Notre Dame is not a member of the ACC, so their CFP appearance doesn't matter."
ND is heavily entangled with the ACC, must play ~5 members annually, and was a full member of the ACC for 1 of its 2 appearances. It's perfectly fair to count 1 of 2, but it isn't material., 7-4-2 still towers over 2-1-0.
"If you are excluding everything Texas and Oklaholma did, then exclude FSU and Clemson since they are in a lawsuit to leave the ACC and are leaving'
a_ The measure is current conferences adjusted for official realignment.
b) Foolish BIG12 fans claim that the new BIG12 is better than the current ACC.
c) Tier 2 football will be fungible, so the 4-team playoff history won't be an accurate measure of Tier 2 conferences anyway.
"Nothing in this doctored up copy and paste mess negates anything I said in the post you are replying to. "
The original post referenced both bowl games and the CFO. Bowl games are no longer an accurate measure while the CFP is.
'This was an extremely long winded way to say UNC lost the 2023 Mayo Bowl to WVU 30-10."
UNC is not going to care about a meaningless bowl after a disappointing end to last season. UNC would never care much about playing WVU.
All this to say that WVU will likely not make the Tier 2 cut while UNC will?
Conference realignment is about money and nothing else. Eventhough, yomark saved the big12 , he robbed the group of 5 to do so. Big 12 been crumbling since the big 8 days. But that doesn't matter, winning and dominance is what matter. Tv contract pay a winner for viewer ship. College football has always been rated and appointed championship vs winning all out. Good to see a playoff.
Utah belongs where it should have stayed: The PAC 2 + Utah. Coupled with San Diego St, (a school everyone wants), if Utah returns to the PAC, Arizona and Arizona State are probably not far behind for lots of good reasons.
The Big 12 can keep Colorado and Prime. Prime is just one big headache and distraction.
Stanford and California would jump at the chance to bail on the ACC sinking ship. Even UCLA would entertain the thought of erasing the multiple time zone travel burden, and come back to the PAC and quickly. Suddenly the PAC 8 + SDSU is looking very respectable and almost resembling a facsimile of its’ former great self.
Utah, come back to the PAC where your great self belongs. Signed, a forever PAC loyalist. Go Cougs!
Did Moose seriously just lump WV o in with Cincy and he may as well have called us a 💩 program. May i remind you, in case you've never seen a college football game, that WV is not only The 15th winningest program in history but they went 9-4 last year and return 91% of their production including 2 QB's, 2 RB's, Multiple WR's and while we lost a few players on defense, we hit the portal and got higher graded players to fill in so the defense will be much improved. Even if i was not a mountaineer fan and someone asked me should they put $100 on WV or Utah to win the conference? I'm telling them WV everyday......I think Utah may be lucky to be in the Top 5 but, i think their cupcake schedule helps a whole lot.
The Iowa State game should be great. Don’t sleep on the Cyclones.
Great is a stretch but I think they’ll be really good!
I think Utah would be wise to wait and see what happens with the ACC before committing to anything. How many are going to leave the ACC? How much will the schools leaving have to pay to the remaining members? There are too many question marks right now and Utah is not desperate.
I just wanted to see the Utes beat California teams forever.
Our 1% Loud mouth fans are bringing the hate coupled with that 1% BYU fans has brought the hate not vice versa.
Look Utah Football is GOOD, they have a great Head Coach, and have begun to build a long-term legacy of outstanding college football. But if you feel you are so Great that being a member of the Big 12 is beneath you, please leave. Save us all the Drama. Really tired of all this b.s.
In your head rent free 😂😂😂😂
You bite your tongue when you’re talking about the Utes! And get down on your hands and knees and show some respect to your new King! Utah wears the B12 crown now.
I think the PAC 12 had a bit more dead weight than what Utah is going to see in the Big 12. Utah’s great, no doubt, but the week to week competition is going to be a bit different. It’ll be interesting to see how that plays out.
@@aBrewster29 More dead weight than 4 G5 schools (BYU, Cinci, Houston, and UCF)?? Yea I don’t think so.
@@richaustin5849 that’s fine. Food for thought there: BYU is almost always tough for Utah and recently went 5-0 against the Pac. UCF is recruiting at a very high level. Cincy and Houston aren’t great, but that’s two teams in a league of 16, 1/8. The PAC 12 had WSU, OSU, Stanford and Cal, making 1/3 of the league kind of a cake walk. That’s not to take away from the difficulty of the four that landed in the Big Ten. The reverse effect is true too-Kansas State isn’t Oregon. I think it will be a bit different.
An excellent interview. And a great topic.
Yes we need to leave this truck stop conference we are way to good for this loser conference
It took a last minute touchdown to beat the worst team in the Big12 last season. They should probably move back to the WAC or just stay in the PacTwo. They'll be lucky finish above .500 in basketball.
The B1G and SEC will never take Utah.
UTAH is a high bubble team for an ~24-member B1G.
The Tier 2 new BIG12 or a future rebuilt Tier 2 PAC is the ceiling for BYU.
May e they should have stayed on the PAC2.
Utah will LOSE to Houston.
I can’t wait for Utah to win the XII so everyone can shut up about Utah being overrated. Wish it was December already
Oklahoma State fan here! I doubt y’all win the conference over us! That’s real talk!
@@oliverwellsjr6702 To be fair, OSU is probably the only tough game on Utah's schedule. Maybe the late season trip to UCF as well. This is why so many people believe Utah will win the league. OSU has a tougher schedule, therefore more opportunity to get knocked out of the conference title game. The only saving grace for either team is you guys play early in the year. Losses early aren't as bad as losses late, which TBF - is stupid - but it is what it is.
I'm not a "fan" of any team in the Big12, just a Duck fan that respects Utah's program. Take my opinion for what it is, my opinion. Regardless, I am excited to see this game as a fan of college football.
@@TirpitzLuminare I here u. Just seems like the media and Utah fan’s believe this a done deal already. I know how good they are but they can’t make me believe that there just automatically gonna come in this conference and win it and be the top team! That road comes through Stillwater.
@@oliverwellsjr6702 I mean that's why we play the games right? How many times throughout history has a team "looked past" an opponent and regretted it. Utah was supposed to be a PAC-12 title contender last year, but the insane number of injuries derailed them. Anything can happen. While I still think Utah has the best chance at winning the BIG12, it's not a foregone conclusion at all. I think the BIG12 is going to be fun to watch this year. I really think Utah @ UCF might be a trap game.
@@oliverwellsjr6702as long as we agree that if/when Utah wins in Stillwater, the Utes are sleepwalking into the CCG…then we’re good here. Utah will make you a believer on 9/21.
Hey now, don't sleep on WVU. Or at least don't lump us in with Cincinnati.
Your right WVU could surprise people again this fall
All the big 12 school have their home advantage. Ucf 80 degrees when utah is 60.
The better big 12 teams are playing with depth and have great strength coaches
Two ridiculous comments 10 minutes apart... Nice to see the Utes living in a zoobies head rent free. Hilarious.
UCF definitely has a strong home field advantage but in the last 3 seasons they have four losses at home to Utah's one. If Utah had to play in Orlando in Augusts that would have been a tough game. Of course the best programs have depth and great strength coaches but so does Utah.
@@jonathanwistrcill1336true, playing in Orlando at the end of November won’t be the same home field advantage. The Utes will love playing in the nice Florida climate to end the regular season. We’ll likely be 11-0 heading into that game and will be able to “load manage” the playing time of our starters. So that road trip is really more of a nice vacation for the kids before the CCG.
We're not jumping onto a burning ship in the ACC but if any of the super conferences came calling we would be gone. Even at a discounted rate. Utah isn't loyal to the B12. It's all about a conference of convenience at this point. Sorry, but that's why we didn't sign onto the GOR and don't have a vote in the B12.
Well said ☝️
This ^^!! Well said!
The BIG12's ship has already burned. Regardless, I see no mutual interest between UTAH and the ACC.
Utah signed a grant of rights, you just didn't sign the exit fee bylaw, which is called a grant of right
@tarheel7406 That's why the Big 12 is a 16 team superconference with a newTV deal, because it is burning. 🙄 It's pathetic how much you're trashing the Big 12 in order to make you feel better about the ACC.
Yes because nobody wlse wants that arrogance.
I don’t dislike Utah at all. It’s a great program. Some fans have been rough especially this guy acting like WVU is a shit program.
Please leave.
I’ll be the first to say it. Utah football has became the biggest joke of all time. EVERYONE in the sports world is talking shit on Utah and thinks they’re a joke of a program.
With this ACC talk it ruined Utahs reputation for being a weakass football team.
Wouldn’t be surprised if they lost a lot of recruits because of this. Following Utah less and less as the weeks go by.
Prove it.
Derp zoob
Do explain why Utah would lose recruits?
@@THEeyepatch11 I’ll be honest I was just voicing my frustration lol. I was just sick of people talking down on Utah saying they’re scared, weak, don’t want to compete in the Big12 blah blah blah.
In my head I thought this could hurt recruiting for the lack on clarity where Utah will be.
I promise you people who cover the sport, coaches and players who have faced Utah have a deep respect for the Utah brand. Recruits want to go to place where they can win, grow their skills to hopefully get drafted and play in big games all things Utah offers.
It feels like BYU is starting to dominate us in basketball and football recruiting… Again! I hope this isn’t our last year, without the PAC 12, of relevance. Anyway, Go Utes‼️
Seriously. Was the pac 12 strong with 2 ranked teams, 5 teams lost byu, utah lost to 2 g5 schools. The big 12 never had a title team have those numbers.
Bottom 6 in pac 12 are loser. You talk about washington, had Seriously bad years since the big 12 has been around.
Utah is a good program. Do not make out all those things.
please translate into english
@marionsberries4077 in 2021 was the pac 12 a strong conference. At the end of the year, pac 12 with 14 schools had 2 ranked teams. Big 12, even with 10 schools, never had less than 3 ranked teams. Seriously, my writing better will not help utahs title look better. Byu beat 5 pac 12 teams. Utah lost to 2 g5 school. You do understand that's bad. 4 loses for utah.
I hear a lot about Washington being great. The same Washington that has a 1 win and zero win seasons during the big 12 era.
Utah is a good team, and I would say make the title game this year. But rolling the big 12 is not happening.
After reading your barely coherent attempt at a rational thought all I have to say is... what a "frantic and emotional" comment.
Maybe you need to take a very deep breath and try again? Hilarious.
@@robertpearce4316 Awful fixated on one season. You are 1-9 against Utah in the last 13 years.
@marionsberries4077 lol you think byu fans are they only people who think this way. Look the other title year was not much better.
You guys are the ones obsessed with the titles. " we won pac 12 2 out the last 3 years. We're rolling the big 12". This is what Utah fans say.
Utah had a glimpse of big 12 running. Baylor got its average last year. AR 4.5 yards a carry. Baylor was the worst rushing team in the big 12.
I don't know any Big12 fans that disagree with the idea that Utah will compete for the championship. Where we get annoyed is when Utah fans talk about how they are going to run through the league and dominate it.
It's important to remember that the Big12 is a stronger league than the PAC was and Utah will have to adapt to that tougher schedule. The Big12 (minus UT/OU) is 21-11 against the PAC over the last 6 years.
That was not true last year. Head to head record is important but so is the currant state of each program. In the final top 25 voting for the AP Poll and Coaches Poll the Pac-12 had 3 teams in the top 15 to the Big 12s 0. The Pac 12 was recognized by many as one of the best conferences in the country because of its depth.
It would be a huge mistake to underestimate Big 12 competition, but go ahead and drink that Koolaid. Utah could win the Big12, but so could 5 other teams. You are now in the moat competitive conference in the country.
@@jonathanwistrcill1336 Yeah but that is one year out of the last 6 I'm talking about. I actually don't disagree about last year. It was a rebuilding/down year for a lot of the Big12 but this year isn't a rebuilding year.
The PAC had a great year but let's be honest, for the last decade or so the PAC has been very very weak.
Even if we look at head to head just last year, a mid level Big12 TTU team nearly beat Oregon and a terrible and injured Baylor nearly beat Utah. Those were two mid Big12 teams against the top of the PAC.
Yes, Utah will dominate the B12. Yes, Utah is the new flagship program of the B12. Yes, Utah runs the B12 now. Any other questions I can help answer for you??
@@richaustin5849 nah. Fake news.
If you don’t like the Big XII, the Mountain West will probably take you back.
That said, I hope Utah fans chill out and enjoy being part of the competitive Big XII in the heartland of America.