The Golden Sun Iceberg Explained
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 มิ.ย. 2024
- Home console systems are the platform of most JRPGs. But there are a select few that were exclusive to portable gaming systems. Perhaps the most notable example of this, became a staple for the game boy advance, as well as the nintendo ds. With a gap of 8 years between the 2nd and final game in the series, fans desperately hope to hear any word of a return of this great franchise.
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I feel like the first 2 had a story to tell and they told it beautifully. A new entry would be better than nothing, but if I had a choice, I’d rather have a crazy remastered version of the first 2 reimagined for new consoles. Maybe add a few new features like new djinn, new moves, new items and weapons, some type of multiplayer. I’d love to see a new world map view with more detail and areas. But most of all, the story and the music should remain intact. If I ever become a millionaire, I’ll pay how ever much to have it made lol
@@nicklopez5313 At this point it would need to be a full remake. Like the Switch remake of The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening
If I could choose any series to continue, it’d be Golden Sun in a heartbeat.
I'd settle for a remaster of all 3 games on the switch and then a new game to target this new and old audience
I agree with you kirbo
I would take even just the first two tbh
Idk, I feel like I don't want GS to continue, I just want a remaster of the first two games
Really want a Golden Sun x Shining Force crossover, but I'm not sure Camelot would be willing to work with Sega or vice versa.
Shining in the Golden Sun tho.
Not a year goes by that I don't hope for a new entry, or if anything, a remaster of the first two games. Hopefully one day we'll all get one of these.
A remaster for switch / PC would be awesome!
I was watching my partner play FF8 last night and we got to talking about game remakes and I said the one game I hope to be remade was the Golden Sun games. Then I get on YT today and this video was in my recommended.
Latest, when AI can craft us such a thing.
Finally getting a Switch release!
Too bad it's just a NSO port.
@@Roggie249 I'm still extremely hyped and will he playing them day 1 on NSO. Although I fully agree, I really do wish that they were remasters that you were actually able to buy. You know what tho? We'll take what we can get!
I hope Camelot has noticed the amazing amount of views on the NSO trailer for the games. It's clear as day that all of us fans are still here 👍
I'm still a little sad that Isaac was never added to Smash Bros. as a playable character. With the Advance Wars remake coming out soon, maybe we'll get a remake for the Switch.
That'd be great.
Well at least the first one is coming to NSO
@@MemeNess Both!
Let's go!@@Roggie249
Golden sun was my first game boy advance game and I fell in love instantly. Couldn’t wait for the next two entries. I’m saddened that they haven’t done anything else since.
I hate Dark Dawn. I think it ruined the franchise. At this point I would be happy if a 4th game doesn't exist.
Dark psynergy is such a cringey concept. They seriously couldn't think of a more interesting plot than evil vs good energy ?
@@nicak777alex9 I haven't played the third game yet but the only issue I had with them was the repetitive characters and bosses. Other than that, I heard the third game wasn't challenging as the first two games.
@@nicak777alex9 Hmmm the developers did say the real story was just about to begin.... yeah funniest thing is it never happened lmao. They were even drunk while developing the third game wtf.
@@TheHeavieKiwie Is that fact? If so that is so shameful.
@@nicak777alex9 Not only that... THERE WERE NO ACTUAL DARK ABILITIES! So it was pointless from the get-go!
Really hope Golden Sun comes back someday.
50 games later, we will be wishing for a 51st lol.
@@victormendoza3295 As long there isn't a cliffhanger or unexplored stuffs lol. Apart from that, others will just be asking for a remake.
I'd literally cry if they did GS4, I loved the whole series and the third game was really ambigous at the end, aside from the whole black holes
Thanks for the video, it was incredible to see my favorite RPG have some love.
I’m going to be honest, I don’t remember the black holes even being mentioned at all beyond the first couple of dungeons and having nothing to do with they story. Am I misremembering?
@@covershopkid it was something to do with black holes and dark synergy or something, it's been a while lmao
@@covershopkidthe black holes were psynergy vortexes sucking psynergy from the world or something which was made into a huge deal at the very start and very end of the game... 9/10 of the game ignored their very existence despite being a "very pressing issue to resolve" lol
Oh it hurts. I love this game in ways I can’t describe. No one knows about it, people think it’s just a generic JRPG, and the series is dead. If I could have one wish in the whole world, it would be to continue the series. Every year I pray for a new game, a movie, a board game, a show, a book, anything!
Camelot updated their website not too long ago to include HD art of Isaac and the Djin for game development and also added a recruitment page for rpgs too!
that's awesome
Can u give the name of the website?
My hope is that they remake the first two games into one big game on the switch, and at the same time release golden sun 4. Then I feel like I’d be happy with the series ending hopefully lol
Can DD be salvaged?
Either they work on the remake or the sequel, ain't no way these companies would make 2 releases. Unless everyone wanna have the developers rush on it and end up having a similar impression as how Pokémon games get new releases...except everyone buys Pokémon and so they don't even bother.
@@hitkid2456they should just pretend it never existed imo lmao
Thanks for this video. I can never forget how great the sprite-work and how cool the Djinn looked and functioned
Golden sun, Is such an underated series... The first one I played, was the third for Ds and I loved it, but somehow ppl didn't like it that much, then I got and played the first, enjoyed it, still missing the second to finish. XD
I would take a remaster of the trilogy
Imo ignore Dark Dawn, the game shouldn't exist in the first place 😓
This brings back memories, playing around with different Djinn combinations to get different animation sequences.
I'd honestly be ecstatic if a remake was done for the switch in the style of Octopath
I hope so
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While I like the 2.5HD system, I would prefer an approach that is in the same spirit of the orginal single but now highly detailed hand crafted pixel art background scrolling around and up and down depending on the camera veiw. 2.5HD isn't likely to be able to pull that effect off well. Since a more isometric angle is needed at all times to help show the voxel depth.
And that studio is working on 2 games currently.
I kinda prefer sprite based game. The Saturn and Chrono Trigger showed that they could be stunning
HELL NO!!!... I hope they use 3D graphics ... and make it Xenoblade like
Dude, that Dark Dawn ending wasn't "ambiguous". That was a big fat cliffhanger and we're still being left hanging.
I’d buy a remastered version of both on switch. Make it happen Nintendo🥺
I like to hurt myself by watching videos and reading articles about a possible sequel for Golden Sun
These are all very interesting facts, the most interesting was how Camelot worked on Shining Force before moving on to Golden Sun, it kinda sucks they’re mostly used for developing Mario Tennis Games.
There's even a shining force reference in one of the games. You can mind read a sleeping woman and she goes: "Eyes...Shining in the Darkness...Go away!"
But yeah, Mario Tennis sucks.
It's interesting how after all this time, there's still incentive to produce those spinoffs.
Them and Genius Sonority are some of the most swuandered studios out there nowadays.
I grew up on Golden Sun! It was one of the first games I ever bought for my GBA, and as soon as I beat it, I rushed out to get the sequel. When the third one came out on the DS, it was one of the few games I bought brand new on the release day. My only complaint with the first two games was that the dialogue scenes were WAY too long. I dreaded dieing against a boss, as it usually meant thirty minutes of tapping the "A" button thru the long winded dialogue.
Man this game was way ahead of its time
Thank you, so very much for making a video spotlighting Golden Sun, still have my hopes up for a fourth, I'd love to see the next part of the story
Honestly, I would love to see this made into an anime.
Hell of a Memory! Thanks for the content!
this and legend of dragoon... will always be a part of me till i die. hope they remake both.
Golden sun is 1 of my favorite games and my favorite game on gba. Imagine we got a remake with new graphics and voice acting.
Nice job on the vid, Maker! Also, nice job on the Legend of Dragoon vid! Both of those games were/are awesome!
Thanks very much! Glad you enjoyed them.
still praying for another golden sun game
Probably the first game I got emotionally invested In.
I loved this game. Wish they remake or at least remaster for the Nintendo switch
I’ve thought about these games at least once a year since they released. So good.
A series so epic you'd think 15/25 years in the making not 18 months o.o niiiiice
The gba games are still my fav games to this day
I would love a new GS. Hell I'd be content as a cucumber if they remastered the 1st 2 for 3DS/Switch.
If golden sun ever gets continued then... I'm so happy that I'm speechless
This game was INSANELY IMMERSIVE so hard to find nowadays
Great to see this. I hope the series returns.
they should reboot the game series, with entire isaac mode covering Mercury, Venus and Jupier lighthouses from their point of view(yes you get to contigo with isaac parties and see the events from their points of view) AND Felix mode where you do first 3 lighthouses INCLUDING Mercury and Venus from their point of view and the obvious Jupiter Lighthouse, Saturos and Menardi kidnaps Sheba early in the story so u can play as Felix, Jenna Sheba and Alex, Alex leaves your party towards end of Venus Lighthouse and Piers takes over as water adept and his lvl and stats are transfered to piers would be a good Fix. Then once completing both modes you can continue to the last light house with both parties.
I love this game so much that I’m even writing a book (fan art )of it😭❤
The third game also released on a dying ds cycle, which was around a month and a half before the 3ds was released. No games around that time broke a million sales. Golden Sun dark dawn still made profit despite being so late in the ds cycle and having nearly nonexistent marketing.
Holy shit knowing of the sanctum trick would have been so useful when i nearly softlocked myself on that shipride with the kraken boss fight
Good sir you now have a forever watcher, no one ever even thought about this good but obscure rpg
Golden Sun iceberg? Yes please!
I guess sleep can wait. Hahaha
Hahaha. That's how I felt too :P
Cheers Thomas! 🥂
@@Maker1 cheers Maker! Can you imagine a show or movie about these games?
@@thomashernandez6536 I actually only played the first two back in high school. But I remember being desperate for more at the time. I still gotta check out Dark Dawn!
@@Maker1 I have all three. Apparently I beat the third one at some point, I only remember playing for a little while and being let down.
One, when not my fav game of all time ❤️
The music in this game is the best gamemusic I ever heard...
Love every track so much 🙏🏼
There is not one year I hoping that the next Golden Sun will released...
Ahh, you didn't go into any detail regarding basically anything from Golden Sun Dark Dawn. Would have been nice to mention things like the Crystallux summon originally being from a Golden Sun advert. Or regarding the glitches, the infamous "Endless Wall glitch" where you save and reload while standing on a specific pixel of the overworld.
This game had one of the best soundtracks
The fucking music of this game will forever haunt my memories
If I'm Nintendo, Here's How I Would Resurrect Golden Sun.
1. Remaster Golden Sun And GS 2 Lost Age. I'd Make This One Game As It Was Originally Planned. Also, Give Every Character A Voice Actor.
2. After You Beat The Game, Prelude A Dark Dawn Reference.
3. Remaster Dark Dawn.
4. New Entry: Golden Sun: Light Of The Moon. (How's That For A Title?)
Thanks for the video!
You bet!
at this point my daily routine is pretty clear: go to work, eat, sleep and look for Golden Sun news... rinse and repeat.
This makes me want to get out my GBA and play through the 2 books for the thousandth time.
That’s what I’m doing now. It’s so good even all these years later. I am now even mind reading all character thoughts. So great. I can’t wait to see about the moon clans when I enter western ocean
Great video, thanks man.
There are two games i would do anything to see remastered or continued. Golden Sun and Legend of Dragoon, It feels as though eons have passed, but I still hold out hope
It’s back baby let’s go!
Something not mentioned is that the battle themes, done by Motoi Sakuraba, are progressive rock. They feature unusual and changing time signatures, typical of the genre but quite unique to RPGs, the GBA, or even video games in general.
Sakuraba has a prog album called Gikyokuanso with some songs having a very Golden Sun vibe (without the GBA's compressed sound).
Pleaae, please let the renewed trademarks mean we're getting more! I'd (unhappily) settle for remasters!
I think the 3rd didn't sell so well because there wasn't a lot of thought put into them. The clocktower idea was AWESOME... the first time they did it. Slap psynergy was really stupid, I mean, statues were given big clown noses?
Please give us more!
That and there wasn't a lot of marketing for it compared to the first 2 games, not to mention back then it had some tough competition
Don’t forget the third game released like a konth and a half before the 3ds came out. No games in the dying ds cycle broke one million besides Pokemon, which by name alone sells.
Golden Sun 1 & 2 are my favourite games of all time
Great Video!
Speaking of Shining Force…that would be quite an undertaking of an iceberg to do. Haha!
10:00 would you believe there's a reference to "I would walk 500 miles" by The Proclaimers in The Lost Age? It happens in Alhafra when the folks from Madra make it there.
The old man in the group goes "I feel like I've walked five-hundred miles...
... I'm fine though. I feel like I could walk 500 more!"
Keep in mind this was years before Marshall from how I met your mother got the song to re-enter the mainstream consciousness.
Every theme bgm still rings my heart on fire. Love the game
who made the animatio at the bigining? OMG i want a animated series of this game now
I sure would like either of it: A new game, remasters, remakes, reboots... Just give us anything.
The glimmer of Hope for the feet of the golden Sun four is still Shining In The Darkness
Its my dream now that they either make a Golden sun 4, or remaster the first two in a style similar to octopath. Octopath's art style is great with maybe too much focus on glittery things. But I think the style as a whole would bode very well for golden sun. I pray we get some revival of the series at the very least
I cant wait for another golden sun
I still hope for a new golden sun game one day, i have been playing it since i was 6 (turning 23 in a few months) and i still play it to this day, all i ask is for one more game, at least one more
Golden Sun? More like Goated Sun. Am I right?
imagine a remaster of the first two games that has extra content and allows you to revisit angara and gondowan by not splitting up the two games
Was there an animated series made of this?!? What were the clips at the very beginning from?
Whoa... Where is that opening animation from? Never seen that before.
I have a feeling if they went down the N64 path. It would have single handedly saved the console from losing to the PS1.
(Either that or it could've faded into relative obscurity just like other N64 titles.)
but either way, it would have been interesting to see given it's more powerful hardware and lack of RPGs.
It wasn't worth the risk. Dark dawn fell off because it was a dying console as well and it didn't live upto the previous ones.
I don't know why they did that mistake despite completely knowing all of it.
Golden sun, lufia, and ff tactics….. the holy trinity of games that need remasters, reboots, and sequels.
So now I'm considering how to use that sanctum feature to backtrack some areas
Im just playing Golden sun for my gba sp ips screen and still looks good , im sure back in the day it was amazing and impressive
Such a great series.
Anyone know where those animations at the start are from?
GOLDEN SUN FOR SWITCH WHEN?!
I prefer the terms "protagonist" and "antagonist". In the first game, Isaac and company are chasing Saturos and company. Saturos is trying to save the world. Isaac is trying to stop them. Saturos employs questionable means to accomplish his ends. Isaac isn't fully aware of the state of the world.
Saturos never minds to save the world : he just wanted dominate the world with the energy of the golden sun... He is not a good guy at all. He can kill with no sorrow when he wants something.
I heard its a great game. Sadly I never finished any golden sun title I might look into it.
Loved this game as a kid after my love for FF7. I need more!
Exactly
I still wish they’d make 2DHD remakes of the first two games. That would be awesome.
You could make a VALKYRIE PROFILE franchise iceberg👍👍👍
What was that art work in the intro?
Replaying this now
I think it’s really cool that the Mountain at the beginning is called Mount Aleph; Aleph is the first character of the Arabic alphabet.
Also, the overt reference to Djinn is really cool. Djinn are talked about in the Qur’an.
I have not played the game since I was a kid, so I am fuzzy on the story, but I’d be curious to see if there are more Arabic/Qur’anic references.
Took me way too long to realise the voice over is text to speech…
Uhhh is nobody going to mention that you are playing as the bad guys in the first game? And the good guys in the second? Or how the “alternate ending” is likely a lie?
I think of golden sun every week I wish I could live in that world when I was at UC Berkeley I would daydream constantly about living in the little island of Freezing Kalt
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Thank you!!!
You bet!
Still waiting for a remaster/remake or new sequel for switch. I miss this game so bad.
Have you or are you going to do the mother series? If yes great, if no cool.
I am open to any subject that can garner an audience. And I'm sure that the mother series would do just that! I'll add it to the list. I can't promise it will be out soon, but I'll get to it when I can. Thanks for the suggestion. Cheers! 🥂
You guys have to stop saying that golden sun was meant for the nintendo 64. It is said in interviews that indeed they were perviously working on a 64 game that never finished, but golden sun was always meant to be on the gba…
if they release gs4 I will fucking explode
There's a lady survivor that says "Eyes.. Shining in the Darkness"
Sol Blade is a weapon you can use in the second game.
Great job, like the flame transition.
In the outro is that supposed to be you, your girl and dog? If you don't mind answering a personal question.
Thanks. I was experimenting with the transitions and I think I like them as well.
The outro was just something I commissioned that I thought was cool. The only accurate part was me in front of my monitors.
I am a happily single man, but I am still a man, haha. :)
And no dog either, but I look forward to getting one when I get into my new place after Christmas (where I can also begin to narrate videos again).
It was kind of just me envisioning the life I am working towards.
Thanks for the engagement! 🥂
@@Maker1 so still have a girl passed out in bed and working on the computer. Haha
Yeah dude, your a real cool down to earth person just the couple times we talked and i look forward to see you growing as a creator.
You a Have a PSN account or Instagram?
Thanks mate. I don't have either of those.
I do have a discord that I'll be opening up when I set up at my new place. I'll probably be hosting some game nights from time to time. I'll be sure to announce it.
Best handheld RPG series? ❤
Imagine a modern re-make like FFVII