Story 1: she was cheating whole time...OP, DNA and STD test please, she was picking fights intentionally...quite literally classic cheater tactics. If your in at-fault state, file it based on her infidelity
@@GrasshopperKelly I doubt it. Guys NEVER think of these things, they always assume the kids are theirs and the wife isn't cheating while ignoring all the red flags. I would say the daughter likely isn't his and he hasn't even checked, he also probably had to pay an absolute fortune in divorce along with alimony, which he could have avoided if he decided to get evidence of her adultery to use in court. The way he decided to do things, the wife likely came out on top with a hefty sum and the house.
@@deusexmachina9776 His STBX wife turning out to be human garbage isn't relevant. Lots of people are good at masking how horrible they really are, and it sounds like her behavior changed for the worse only in the past few months of this story. Not everyone walks into your life waving all their red flags in your face as a warning that someday they'll be awful to you. Some of them wait years to show even a hint that they're bad. OP's STBX sounds like one of them. He *did* break the cycle. He put his child first in a bad situation instead of being abusive like his father or leaving his kid to fend for herself like his mother did. Choosing his kid *is* breaking his family's cycle.
@@Yori6552 who people are attracted to is based on what they saw their parents do in their home. attachment styles are based on upbrininging hence why for example women with dad beat dads tend to marry deadbeats. it is unlikely wife was able to ask who she was - majority of people dont have that skill, OP was blind to her red flags from the start. good for him for walking away from a marriage. but at the end of the day the mother will always be part of the child's life. he or she will have a garbage mother and that will affect the child always. doesnt really nmatter if he isnt abusive if wife is going to be
@@deusexmachina9776 I think what Yori meant was how the cycle when a parent is confronted with a stressful situation was broken because he looked out for his daughter rather than himself. Breaking the cycle was not meant about marrying the right person, but being the right parent for your child at important times.
@@quadrant9774 but the ex wife does the same thing - two the kid will have a mother who looks out for herself. the cycle continues he just isn't the aggressor
"Great mothers" don't end up with 30% custody. Just saying. "Great mothers" also don't ditch plans with their kids for plans made after the fact with friends. 9/10 chance that the "plans with friends" is her having and affair.
His rose colored glasses were on way too tight. He was probably the only one who saw his wife as a good person/mother. It's for the best that he finally managed to get away from that parasite
yup. frankly these days a lot of states have judges that are hard-pressed to rule in favor of the husband at all, even if the mother has a track record, so if you mess up so bad that you only get 30% visitation you done messed up.
Very true. That’s why many countries starting to be harder on mothers, as a mother myself I agree. Some are so horrible and the father doesn’t get a chance. It baffles me sometimes.
Story 2: Let's not forget the important factoid that the parents literally told the sister to throw Emma in foster care because they couldn't deal with an infant so they passed it off to an already busy law school student. She saved that little girl from a lot of abandoment issues if you ask me
Holy fuck OP2. Single and had no hand in creating any of those children, cleaning up other people's messes professionally, and I do not mean being a defence attorney. If any woman in that entire story deserved to be called a mother, I know who it is.
My wife threatened divorce about everything to four weeks. She refused to work, didn't even do an equal share of housework, and constantly fought with my daughter. Finally I said "OK". About a week, she crawled back, claiming the "I'll do anything". Nope, it was over.
Story 2: you're such an angel, bless your soul and your works. Some parents just don't deserve kids, but the kids deserve a parent like you. I hope the brothers (Ian and the baby) will also triving like their sister.
First story: He did right he established his boundary and she crossed it. You should give people the chance to change but once they don't take you can't give them another. It is only capitulation then...
Bro the fact that she pulled out the “I want a divorce” and when he didn’t get down on his knees crying and told her what’s what, then started being apologetic is so funny
100 bucks says that that shirtless man _was_ the other plans. It was an event that OP wouldn't miss, so she could sleep with the dude without fear of OP catching them in the act.
OP's sister needs to be grateful that her children are taken care of. Then she needs to come to terms with this what her life has come to as a result of her decisions.
Story 2 reminds me of this oddly wholesome but realistically sad story of a guy who's dad neglected him and his sister after their mother/his wife died and he had to raise his sister who was over 15 years younger than him. At her birthday the sister called OP (her brother) her dad while their bio dad was precent and they had a fight about it and the OP is planning to adopt his sister and keep raising her with his fiancé. It's a odd story that has me woth mixed feelings and it can be found with searching "My sister called me dad"
@@SenseiRaisen I don't think he was a complete jerk, I just think he didn't care enough and the fact that he tried building a bond at the end shows that he has some decency left in him. First he was being stupid by having sex at such a young age and not understanding that he can't afford to have sex because of all he will lose, then he was uninformed about parenting because he's still a child himself, then his wife died and he got depressed and not only lost his wife but the life he had imagined with a new baby was gone too, now he's depressed and kind of a POS because he doesn't love his children enough to give them good care and even yells at them. He made bad choices and wasn't strong enough in the world's winds and that led to not so good results in his part
@@ImHomiesexual It is pretty shitty to make a scene about it. The kid probably didn't say it to hurt him, but because it was how he felt. Instead of making a scene, he should have had an epiphany and realized what a deadbeat he's been. He could turn it around, but gets mad his child felt abandoned by him?
Out of experience with my ex, cheaters often pick fights over BS I think its to feel justified in the horrible thing they are doing. Before I got married my now wife and I had a long discussion about what we want out of life , how we see our future and set the ground rules for mutual love and respect. One thing I told her is I do not react well to being threatened or manipulated if she ever tells me she wants a divorce she will never be able to turn back from those words, the only thing that will happen from there on is to sign the papers, as no one and nothing would be able to convince me to stop.
Op's sister in story 2 should be grateful her daughter was safe, I watched a true crime video the other day about a mom that went to jail and signed over temporary custody to a friend til she got out cause she knew this girl from back when they were in school and the woman ran a day care and was well known and popular in the community. She ended up killing the little girl, turned out she was abusing all the kids in her home day care, there are signs that she let someone SA the baby girl and there were google searches talking about "Wanting to hurt other people's kids but not her own." She should be glad her sister didn't do anything to her daughter out of frustration of having to so seriously change her life to clean up after her sister.
When you raise a kid for 6 years of course they're gonna call you mother. A druggie thinking she can be a mother while taking drugs pregnant is beyond a joke. Those kids deserve better.
Right? I am splitting house chores with my GF, but she work full time, like me. In case I alone bring money home, she will take care of shopping, cleaning, cooking etc by herself, no discussion or she can go packing...guys today are so weak to set up boundaries and rules...SAHM splitting chores with guy spending 60 hours at work, ridiculous
@@corruptus_how is anyone start packing is beneficial? It's a disadvantage to already live together then to disband the unit. Now if the gal leaves she has to find a different place etc... 😅
Is it bad to assume in the second story the parents actually have a favourite child situation? Like the sisters the golden child in some way while OP is the scape goat I mean it seems like instead of trusting op as a lawyer knowing what they're doing with an emergency custody Immediately jumped into OP being evil And cruel Trying to rip apart day perfectly find family In the fact that they didn't even apologize or reach out to OP Immediately after they learned they were wrong really screams About them Like I understand to some extent on the whole op being called mom This situation but everything else is very suspicious to me
Possible, but consdering that if they love both their daughters this would be hard on them, too so I could imagine they were just in denial. Doesn't mean they were in the right and they should definitely apologise to OP.
@@ZenoDovahkiin NOPE! you can "prented to love both" but gaslight one into believe they love it but in reality they had one been the golden child and the other the scapegoat. Some people doesn't realize it until much later or when people point out the typical narcissist behaviour. The r/raisedbynarcissists are basically this.
Not really, I think it's just because OP's sister did so well in portraying that her family is fine, even OP believed that before taking Emma to therapy. The parents knew how attached OP was to Emma, therefore thought that she did it out of possessiveness since all they knew was that her sister's family was doing well. Also, who knew what kinds of lies the sister fed them about the OP, if she even tried manipulating her daughter. If the sister was their golden child, they wouldn't have suggested to put Emma in foster care. They never pushed OP to look after Emma, and supported them monetarily when she took her in. There might be some kind of reasons why they couldn't look after Emma themselves, we don't know anything about them after all. They also didn't bail her out of jail when they knew the truth. Imo what prevented them to apologize was their pride. They knew they were wrong, and they were so ashamed of it that they couldn't bring themselves to reach out to OP. Some parents, especially the stubborn ones, do that. There are a lot of story about parents disowning their own child in the heat of anger then regret it, but their pride prevents them to reach out to their child first. Maybe the parents in this case were also that way. However, like I said, we don't know them so I don't know whether what I said is true, they're just my opinions based on the story alone. I'm in no way justifying the parents' actions though, they're still wrong.
Well said. If someone gets wind of the kid' living situation, social services will have to take them away from OP's sister, place them in foster care, and then, with other families, through closed adoption; in fact, the kids SHOULD be taken away from OP's sister, and placed with stable foster/adoptive parents, and they would have stable home lives.⚠️
He says that she doesnt do anything around the house or for the family that shes like a stranger to him and his daughter but in the same breath says shes a good mom...how? How is she a dead beat and a good mom
That second story is wild LOL, I went from "uh, this person is definitely just mad she can't see a kid that's not technically hers?" to "holy fuck im so thankful they were as persistent as they were" real fast lmfao
Story 2 : Man, the OP's sister is really pushing it with her demands. I get she wants a cozy spot for her little one, but asking the OP to give up both his gaming room and the master bedroom? That's just not cool. Maybe bringing in a mediator or counselor could help em hash out a compromise that works better for both of em.
The second story made me remember that scene from the movie 3 Idiots, where the director tells students about how cuckooo bird's strategy of raising her children. If you haven't seen it, you should.
First story reminds me of my ex wife. She kept saying she wanted a divorce till i actually made it happen. Then she came crying and regretting all the negativity over the years. I still pushed forward with it. I was done playing emotional games.
Story 2- it absolutely amazes me how people can be so demanding over their kids like “Emma needs to stop coming to your house, when she comes home, she’s completely out of control, doesn’t listen etc” then come to find out what’s happening in the home. Like are you that STUPID?! How?! Good on OP! Your sister needs her tubes tide so she stops popping out baby’s she can’t care for.
Because feminism or something a few people here still think a man needs to do everything while unemployed wife gets to be a deadbeat and are calling a man who doesn't work,and do all the chores a deadbeat
I find it ridiculous that OP's parents decided to believe their addict daughter who (seemingly openly) smokes weed over their lawyer daughter who has been taking care of her kid while she's been using is ridiculous. I'm not saying that being an addict hurts her credibility or that smoking weed hurts her credibility on their own but together that's a bad picture and any recovering addict will tell you that's a bad idea. As soon as I heard she was smoking weed while recovering from addiction (recovery is an ongoing process, three years if it even was that long would certainly not be long enough if there was a "long enough") it was not at all surprising to hear everything that came after, maybe bar the mushroom grow. The idea that they were growing weed is also not surprising since there was no way they were affording a regular supply on the money they were making while supporting kids (barring any sort of financial assistance from family). It only takes a sip for an alcoholic to relapse and for a drug addict weed will, 99.9% of the time, be a gateway to old learned behaviours and any other instance is an exception to the rule. All of this combined makes OP's very irresponsible and untrustworthy when it comes to their daughter's addiction and recovery obviously OP didn't know how deep it went but it's her responsibility as her niece's guardian to know how deep it goes. Thankfully things worked out and hopefully there is no contact in the future as they are no longer entitled to any but my prediction is the next time OP's sister comes around peeking her head in saying she's clean her parents will start spinning the yarn because from their reaction the heads are buried firmly up their arses with arses in the sand. Horrific story with a lighter ending.
My guess is that they were so hopeful everything was getting better that they were in denial during the emergency custody situation and acted emotionally. Still in the wrong though.
Story2: I would have said "no" to bailing out BIL. If she'd said "no deal", I'd say "okay, you can get some time to think about it.. I'll come during visitation hours sometime next week and ask you again.. Okay, byeee...".. Pretty sure she'd fold pretty quick..
that aunt should just go visit emma instead of asking emma to always come over on the weekends. and she should have intro herself as her aunt. the fact emma called her mom shows she never established that in the first place. but knowing the parents was manipulating emma, she defo should get full custody of emma.
@@XIAO-j9oNope nowadays the laws and society itself incentivise married women to divorce while ruining the men,its better to never get married and just stay BF/GF and do everything a married person would do,other than sign the certificate
Story 1: I find it interesting that the husband has filed for legal separation, but as one of the terms, she can’t get involved with anyone else. That’s so dumb to me, b/c instead of sticking together, or breaking it off all together, you would rather legally file for a “legal separation”. If you’re going to leave, someone, make sure you fully leave them with no strings attached. He pretty much left her, but wanted to make sure legally that she doesn’t get involved with another man. Obviously if you guys are breaking up & separated, then clearly she’s going to go out & about with another men. He should’ve just left her & not did the whole legal separation crap b/c he clearly didn’t want to stay with her nor did she with him. Yes, it is a form of cheating (I guess you can say), but they were separated at the end of the day, so technically, she didn’t cheat.
1Story one is so sad, she knew she could use and abuse him. I bet she thought she could use him as a meal ticket for life and he would never leave. That relationship had tonnes of abuse and control and he coulden5 see it, probably because he thought it was normal from growing up with it Story 2, what a fat smack head. Once a liar always a liar.
story 1: ah just like a woman to cause the problem, then goes an hops in another mans arms while the court clearly said not to. so she lost her husband, daughter, allimony, spousal support, most likely any custody. yup just like most women she is a genius on doing stupid stuff 😂
My heart hurts for 1st OP's daughter. I predict that, when OP's daughter hits 16, she'll run away from her mother to couch-surf with fake friends, next, at 18, she'll stay with/marry a boy who not only mistreats her, cheats on her, abuses her (mentally, emotionally, verbally, and physically), love- bombs her, manipulates her to come back to him, traps her, in order, to isolate her from OP and his sister, threatens to un-alive her if he catches her sneaking off to stay with them, and she'll become conditioned to stay married to the psychotic PO§, because she doesn't want to separate his flesh and blood, even, if he puts her down, goes ballistic, and puts her in the hospital, runs around with other women, or worse, the combo in the three, then, with the help of cops and DV social workers, flee to another state to raise her baby in a safe and stable home environment, and have to stay at a women's shelter, until she finds a job and an apartment, because she won't have OP, his sister, other relatives or friends in her new state to take her in; all the daughter and her baby will have is each other.⚠️
Whaaa, OP is just gonna get custody also what's with this whole she will ONLY marry an abusive narcissistic man thing?Or that the government would be willing to help
Story two; I hope the kids were all drug tested to.. Who knows if the kids knew about them growing.. God only knows if the kids happened to eat any shrooms, or we3d..
The mistakle is that you do a signifaicant amount of house work, while she is a SAHM... That's not fair role distribution. If she's not working 8h+ a day, she can do mist chores and you shouldn't do more than basic house work or cleaning up after yourself. And I hate when people tell me that "being a SAHM is just as hard"... yeah sure lol. I don't hneed 8h a day to keep the household in check and OP explicitly says he helps with the kids (this shouldn't be only on one partner, no matter what role mode you have) and thus he carries even more burdons and feeds your parasitc ass through. No empathy for entitled SAHM or SAHD - it's a huge priviledge to be able to spend your time with your kids while they grow up and I'd happily stay home if I had a partner that earned enough. Story2: OP stole the kids for no good reason and she isn't even the real mother... This is so fucked up and the children will be spoiled brats, nice, good job OP.
For story 2, the parents were found to be using numerous drugs, not just the stuff they were growing, including fentanyl. That sounds like a pretty dang good reason to get the kids outta there.
I dont blame you for missing it; OP definitely glossed over this. Way too fast. Only 1 year of seeing her mom on the weekends, 1 year of 50/50, and 1 year of visiting OP on the weekend. Seems rushed
Yes, husband is at fault here though most would disagree. He did not realize he is,wrong though. Like most men, they don't realize when women complain, it means the man is doing something wrong. At the time he could have saved the marriage, he chose not to.
It's always easy for self centered women to say it's the mans fault. They never accept responsibility for anything. That's exactly why they end up old, single, bitter, miserable people that nobody wants to be around!
OP in 2nd story is unhinged. She took care of the child when her sister need it, now it's time to give her her child back. The child still can pass some time with her aunt, but OP seems having a hard time acknowledging that she's not her mom, and that she was doing her sister an act of service by taking care of the child
Clearly you missed the entire story then, if you think OP is the one in the wrong... They had a LEGAL AGREEMENT and OP's sister wasn't respecting that after she FINALLY got clean once and for all. If anything, OP's sister is being a bitch towards the one person that helped her and(most importantly) Emma THE MOST. If anything it seems to me that the sister realized she did dirty to her older daughter but didn't want to admit it, and now that she realized how much she missed and how her daughter sees OP as the "better parent figure", she's jealous of the bond OP developed with Emma.
Nah fam, unhinged is keeping 3 children in a drug den. The brother in law literally had fentanyl in his system and a weed/magic mushroom farm in his basement. Not sure if you’re familiar with how lethal fentanyl is, a small amount can kill a full sized adult. OPs sister was doing untold amounts of mental damage to that poor girl by manipulating her into thinking the only person whom acted like a proper parent to her didn’t love her. If OPs sister wanted to be a proper parent then she should have since the beginning. She used OP as free daycare till she realized she was losing out on the benefits of parenthood. As someone who’s dealt with addiction before I can say 1,000,000% that people dealing with active addiction should not have custody of a hamster let alone another human being.
Merely pushing a child out your uterus doesn't make you a mom. The bio mom is just being a typical junkie and acting like the past never happened once she got clean. I'd rather be adopted by a responsible attentive aunt than have my real mom.
A SAHM that still needs to split household chores is actually useless. Why do you even stay at home all day when you cant even manage that. Vacuuming, Washing clothes, doing the dishes, and cooking food does not take more than 4hrs even if you take your time doing it
@@ryanmackenzie6109 so your point is what exactly? Dad's are parenting after work as well. But you agree that it would be ridiculous if the man came home after work, with some of his work left to do that he wants his wife to finish. So if a man comes home after work and then is asked to cook dinner. That's a useless wife.
@@senfnotmayo9004 the point is house work isn't "a woman's job". When you have a home and a family, that is BOTH your jobs. If one parent leaves the house for a paid job, the other person does work around the house for the same duration of time which is usually watching the goddamn kids. Anything left over when he two of them are both around each other at the end of their work day, are shared chores.
Story 1: she was cheating whole time...OP, DNA and STD test please, she was picking fights intentionally...quite literally classic cheater tactics. If your in at-fault state, file it based on her infidelity
The Reddit post the video is based on is years old. I’d imagine they found out by now.
@@GrasshopperKelly I figured, I just commented for algoritm...hope that OPs well
@@GrasshopperKelly I doubt it. Guys NEVER think of these things, they always assume the kids are theirs and the wife isn't cheating while ignoring all the red flags. I would say the daughter likely isn't his and he hasn't even checked, he also probably had to pay an absolute fortune in divorce along with alimony, which he could have avoided if he decided to get evidence of her adultery to use in court. The way he decided to do things, the wife likely came out on top with a hefty sum and the house.
Or.. She felt stuck in the home ,she didn't have a job ,friends or anything outside of being a wife and mom and felt resentful.
@@gypsyrose-qq9nz there is no valid excuse for cheating
Op needs to understand that he didn't end up like his parents. He did better. He broke the cycle. His child is safe.
braking the cycle would have been marrying a woman who isnt like this and instead gave his daugther a home with both parent.
@@deusexmachina9776 His STBX wife turning out to be human garbage isn't relevant. Lots of people are good at masking how horrible they really are, and it sounds like her behavior changed for the worse only in the past few months of this story. Not everyone walks into your life waving all their red flags in your face as a warning that someday they'll be awful to you. Some of them wait years to show even a hint that they're bad. OP's STBX sounds like one of them.
He *did* break the cycle. He put his child first in a bad situation instead of being abusive like his father or leaving his kid to fend for herself like his mother did. Choosing his kid *is* breaking his family's cycle.
@@Yori6552 who people are attracted to is based on what they saw their parents do in their home. attachment styles are based on upbrininging hence why for example women with dad beat dads tend to marry deadbeats. it is unlikely wife was able to ask who she was - majority of people dont have that skill, OP was blind to her red flags from the start.
good for him for walking away from a marriage. but at the end of the day the mother will always be part of the child's life. he or she will have a garbage mother and that will affect the child always. doesnt really nmatter if he isnt abusive if wife is going to be
@@deusexmachina9776 I think what Yori meant was how the cycle when a parent is confronted with a stressful situation was broken because he looked out for his daughter rather than himself. Breaking the cycle was not meant about marrying the right person, but being the right parent for your child at important times.
@@quadrant9774 but the ex wife does the same thing - two the kid will have a mother who looks out for herself. the cycle continues he just isn't the aggressor
That ex-wife basically said, "you can't do better than me".
OP retorted, "anyone is better than you".
Even being alone is better than her
@@AllEy3s0nMeHell being dead is better than being with her
"Great mothers" don't end up with 30% custody. Just saying. "Great mothers" also don't ditch plans with their kids for plans made after the fact with friends. 9/10 chance that the "plans with friends" is her having and affair.
His rose colored glasses were on way too tight. He was probably the only one who saw his wife as a good person/mother. It's for the best that he finally managed to get away from that parasite
yup. frankly these days a lot of states have judges that are hard-pressed to rule in favor of the husband at all, even if the mother has a track record, so if you mess up so bad that you only get 30% visitation you done messed up.
Exactly! Exactly what kind of plans could she have had with her friends that absolutely could not be cancelled???
Very true. That’s why many countries starting to be harder on mothers, as a mother myself I agree. Some are so horrible and the father doesn’t get a chance. It baffles me sometimes.
How dare you insinuate an affair!
Drugs and cheating could CLEARLY also be a problem
Story 2: Let's not forget the important factoid that the parents literally told the sister to throw Emma in foster care because they couldn't deal with an infant so they passed it off to an already busy law school student. She saved that little girl from a lot of abandoment issues if you ask me
Totally agreed.
She's a very loving woman and mother.
Story 2: OP is an absolute angel, can't imagine how rough it is to navigate a situation like that. Sounds like she got custody just in time too.
Story 2: op had every right for her sister's daughter to call her mom. She will always be a better mother than her actual mother will ever be
Holy fuck OP2. Single and had no hand in creating any of those children, cleaning up other people's messes professionally, and I do not mean being a defence attorney.
If any woman in that entire story deserved to be called a mother, I know who it is.
My wife threatened divorce about everything to four weeks. She refused to work, didn't even do an equal share of housework, and constantly fought with my daughter. Finally I said "OK". About a week, she crawled back, claiming the "I'll do anything". Nope, it was over.
That sounds awfully sad. She'll get a sad wake-up call, when your daughter goes complete NO CONTACT with her.⚠️
Good women don’t threaten you with divorce whenever they don’t get what they want. Only a narcissist who loves playing mind games would do that.
Story 2: you're such an angel, bless your soul and your works. Some parents just don't deserve kids, but the kids deserve a parent like you. I hope the brothers (Ian and the baby) will also triving like their sister.
First story: He did right he established his boundary and she crossed it. You should give people the chance to change but once they don't take you can't give them another. It is only capitulation then...
Bro really called her bluff 💀💀💀
fr lmao 💀
Bro the fact that she pulled out the “I want a divorce” and when he didn’t get down on his knees crying and told her what’s what, then started being apologetic is so funny
100 bucks says that that shirtless man _was_ the other plans. It was an event that OP wouldn't miss, so she could sleep with the dude without fear of OP catching them in the act.
OP's sister needs to be grateful that her children are taken care of. Then she needs to come to terms with this what her life has come to as a result of her decisions.
The first story is so fucking depressing
Story 2 reminds me of this oddly wholesome but realistically sad story of a guy who's dad neglected him and his sister after their mother/his wife died and he had to raise his sister who was over 15 years younger than him. At her birthday the sister called OP (her brother) her dad while their bio dad was precent and they had a fight about it and the OP is planning to adopt his sister and keep raising her with his fiancé.
It's a odd story that has me woth mixed feelings and it can be found with searching "My sister called me dad"
OH!! i heard it. The dad was just a complete jerk.
@@SenseiRaisen I don't think he was a complete jerk, I just think he didn't care enough and the fact that he tried building a bond at the end shows that he has some decency left in him. First he was being stupid by having sex at such a young age and not understanding that he can't afford to have sex because of all he will lose, then he was uninformed about parenting because he's still a child himself, then his wife died and he got depressed and not only lost his wife but the life he had imagined with a new baby was gone too, now he's depressed and kind of a POS because he doesn't love his children enough to give them good care and even yells at them. He made bad choices and wasn't strong enough in the world's winds and that led to not so good results in his part
@@ImHomiesexual again ,,, he "was" a jerk up to that point. Maybe he mature it, but ... this went pass the point of no return either.
@@ImHomiesexual It is pretty shitty to make a scene about it. The kid probably didn't say it to hurt him, but because it was how he felt. Instead of making a scene, he should have had an epiphany and realized what a deadbeat he's been. He could turn it around, but gets mad his child felt abandoned by him?
The story 2 OP is amazing. She is their real mom even if she’s not their biological mom.
Out of experience with my ex, cheaters often pick fights over BS I think its to feel justified in the horrible thing they are doing. Before I got married my now wife and I had a long discussion about what we want out of life , how we see our future and set the ground rules for mutual love and respect. One thing I told her is I do not react well to being threatened or manipulated if she ever tells me she wants a divorce she will never be able to turn back from those words, the only thing that will happen from there on is to sign the papers, as no one and nothing would be able to convince me to stop.
Op's sister in story 2 should be grateful her daughter was safe, I watched a true crime video the other day about a mom that went to jail and signed over temporary custody to a friend til she got out cause she knew this girl from back when they were in school and the woman ran a day care and was well known and popular in the community. She ended up killing the little girl, turned out she was abusing all the kids in her home day care, there are signs that she let someone SA the baby girl and there were google searches talking about "Wanting to hurt other people's kids but not her own." She should be glad her sister didn't do anything to her daughter out of frustration of having to so seriously change her life to clean up after her sister.
When you raise a kid for 6 years of course they're gonna call you mother. A druggie thinking she can be a mother while taking drugs pregnant is beyond a joke. Those kids deserve better.
Splitting housework with a jobless SAHM is already pretty generous. A shame how his past trauma is hampering his sense of self worth.
Right? I am splitting house chores with my GF, but she work full time, like me. In case I alone bring money home, she will take care of shopping, cleaning, cooking etc by herself, no discussion or she can go packing...guys today are so weak to set up boundaries and rules...SAHM splitting chores with guy spending 60 hours at work, ridiculous
@@scaredpaul540 Statistically, your girlfriend would be better off if she did start packing.
@@corruptus_how is anyone start packing is beneficial? It's a disadvantage to already live together then to disband the unit. Now if the gal leaves she has to find a different place etc... 😅
@@corruptus_ yeah yeah, whatever you say...
@@vlad-igor he dont know what he is talking about, probably young simp...
Story 2 : OP is an absolute angel
Is it bad to assume in the second story the parents actually have a favourite child situation?
Like the sisters the golden child in some way while OP is the scape goat
I mean it seems like instead of trusting op as a lawyer knowing what they're doing with an emergency custody
Immediately jumped into OP being evil And cruel Trying to rip apart day perfectly find family
In the fact that they didn't even apologize or reach out to OP Immediately after they learned they were wrong really screams About them
Like I understand to some extent on the whole op being called mom This situation but everything else is very suspicious to me
Possible, but consdering that if they love both their daughters this would be hard on them, too so I could imagine they were just in denial. Doesn't mean they were in the right and they should definitely apologise to OP.
@@ZenoDovahkiin NOPE! you can "prented to love both" but gaslight one into believe they love it but in reality they had one been the golden child and the other the scapegoat. Some people doesn't realize it until much later or when people point out the typical narcissist behaviour. The r/raisedbynarcissists are basically this.
Not really, I think it's just because OP's sister did so well in portraying that her family is fine, even OP believed that before taking Emma to therapy. The parents knew how attached OP was to Emma, therefore thought that she did it out of possessiveness since all they knew was that her sister's family was doing well. Also, who knew what kinds of lies the sister fed them about the OP, if she even tried manipulating her daughter. If the sister was their golden child, they wouldn't have suggested to put Emma in foster care. They never pushed OP to look after Emma, and supported them monetarily when she took her in. There might be some kind of reasons why they couldn't look after Emma themselves, we don't know anything about them after all. They also didn't bail her out of jail when they knew the truth. Imo what prevented them to apologize was their pride. They knew they were wrong, and they were so ashamed of it that they couldn't bring themselves to reach out to OP. Some parents, especially the stubborn ones, do that. There are a lot of story about parents disowning their own child in the heat of anger then regret it, but their pride prevents them to reach out to their child first. Maybe the parents in this case were also that way. However, like I said, we don't know them so I don't know whether what I said is true, they're just my opinions based on the story alone. I'm in no way justifying the parents' actions though, they're still wrong.
Wait.
Emma's mother is trying to be the best mother possible, but the house is a disaster area and the 9yo is being ordered to do the dishes...?
Well said. If someone gets wind of the kid' living situation, social services will have to take them away from OP's sister, place them in foster care, and then, with other families, through closed adoption; in fact, the kids SHOULD be taken away from OP's sister, and placed with stable foster/adoptive parents, and they would have stable home lives.⚠️
The first one was just sad.
He says that she doesnt do anything around the house or for the family that shes like a stranger to him and his daughter but in the same breath says shes a good mom...how? How is she a dead beat and a good mom
That second story is wild LOL, I went from "uh, this person is definitely just mad she can't see a kid that's not technically hers?" to "holy fuck im so thankful they were as persistent as they were" real fast lmfao
I guess majority of time kids that have divorced parents destined to repeat their parents mistakes
Story 2: This just shows that the mother isnt one giving birth but the one raising the child.
Same. Anytime I'm dating someone who gives me the "I don't need no man" speech I leave. People need each other.
Leave....DIVORCE HER!!
Story 2 : Man, the OP's sister is really pushing it with her demands. I get she wants a cozy spot for her little one, but asking the OP to give up both his gaming room and the master bedroom? That's just not cool. Maybe bringing in a mediator or counselor could help em hash out a compromise that works better for both of em.
The second story made me remember that scene from the movie 3 Idiots, where the director tells students about how cuckooo bird's strategy of raising her children. If you haven't seen it, you should.
Story 1) feels like ITS BEING USED AGAIN
"My daughter..."
Lol. Might want to double check!
9:37 imagine saying you don't think they're using her as a babysitter and then immediately saying how they paid her to babysit lmao.
Story 2: 11:40 just heard they wanted a 9 year old to do the dishes, I got a gut feeling that sister and BIL never actually changed.
Edit: Yep.
First story reminds me of my ex wife. She kept saying she wanted a divorce till i actually made it happen. Then she came crying and regretting all the negativity over the years. I still pushed forward with it. I was done playing emotional games.
Story 2- it absolutely amazes me how people can be so demanding over their kids like “Emma needs to stop coming to your house, when she comes home, she’s completely out of control, doesn’t listen etc” then come to find out what’s happening in the home. Like are you that STUPID?! How?! Good on OP! Your sister needs her tubes tide so she stops popping out baby’s she can’t care for.
Why is this guy the breadwinner and cooks and clean??
Because feminism or something a few people here still think a man needs to do everything while unemployed wife gets to be a deadbeat and are calling a man who doesn't work,and do all the chores a deadbeat
She's testing OP's patience.
I find it ridiculous that OP's parents decided to believe their addict daughter who (seemingly openly) smokes weed over their lawyer daughter who has been taking care of her kid while she's been using is ridiculous. I'm not saying that being an addict hurts her credibility or that smoking weed hurts her credibility on their own but together that's a bad picture and any recovering addict will tell you that's a bad idea. As soon as I heard she was smoking weed while recovering from addiction (recovery is an ongoing process, three years if it even was that long would certainly not be long enough if there was a "long enough") it was not at all surprising to hear everything that came after, maybe bar the mushroom grow. The idea that they were growing weed is also not surprising since there was no way they were affording a regular supply on the money they were making while supporting kids (barring any sort of financial assistance from family). It only takes a sip for an alcoholic to relapse and for a drug addict weed will, 99.9% of the time, be a gateway to old learned behaviours and any other instance is an exception to the rule. All of this combined makes OP's very irresponsible and untrustworthy when it comes to their daughter's addiction and recovery obviously OP didn't know how deep it went but it's her responsibility as her niece's guardian to know how deep it goes. Thankfully things worked out and hopefully there is no contact in the future as they are no longer entitled to any but my prediction is the next time OP's sister comes around peeking her head in saying she's clean her parents will start spinning the yarn because from their reaction the heads are buried firmly up their arses with arses in the sand. Horrific story with a lighter ending.
My guess is that they were so hopeful everything was getting better that they were in denial during the emergency custody situation and acted emotionally. Still in the wrong though.
Story2: I would have said "no" to bailing out BIL. If she'd said "no deal", I'd say "okay, you can get some time to think about it.. I'll come during visitation hours sometime next week and ask you again.. Okay, byeee...".. Pretty sure she'd fold pretty quick..
Honestly never trust it when they say you cant have a kid or more kids
it's better to raise a child in 2 different houses than raise it in 1 dysfunctional house
that aunt should just go visit emma instead of asking emma to always come over on the weekends. and she should have intro herself as her aunt. the fact emma called her mom shows she never established that in the first place. but knowing the parents was manipulating emma, she defo should get full custody of emma.
Sad thing is sister will end up getting nocked up again.
His first mistake was ever getting married
Now you're just being pessimistic.
@@XIAO-j9oNope nowadays the laws and society itself incentivise married women to divorce while ruining the men,its better to never get married and just stay BF/GF and do everything a married person would do,other than sign the certificate
Story 2: how can they make a 9 year old do the dishes
if any1 deserve to be a mother 2story OP IS...
The OP in the second story is crazy.
op2 saved 3 kids from a terrible home situation
Sorry 1 definitely need to be updated until OP post about divorce
Happy thanksgiving 🦃🍁🍽 everyone!
Story 1: I find it interesting that the husband has filed for legal separation, but as one of the terms, she can’t get involved with anyone else. That’s so dumb to me, b/c instead of sticking together, or breaking it off all together, you would rather legally file for a “legal separation”. If you’re going to leave, someone, make sure you fully leave them with no strings attached. He pretty much left her, but wanted to make sure legally that she doesn’t get involved with another man. Obviously if you guys are breaking up & separated, then clearly she’s going to go out & about with another men. He should’ve just left her & not did the whole legal separation crap b/c he clearly didn’t want to stay with her nor did she with him. Yes, it is a form of cheating (I guess you can say), but they were separated at the end of the day, so technically, she didn’t cheat.
The caption was so satisfying
1Story one is so sad, she knew she could use and abuse him. I bet she thought she could use him as a meal ticket for life and he would never leave. That relationship had tonnes of abuse and control and he coulden5 see it, probably because he thought it was normal from growing up with it
Story 2, what a fat smack head. Once a liar always a liar.
story 1: ah just like a woman to cause the problem, then goes an hops in another mans arms while the court clearly said not to. so she lost her husband, daughter, allimony, spousal support, most likely any custody.
yup just like most women she is a genius on doing stupid stuff 😂
Most women? And men are what saints who don't cheat? The roles can and have been reversed and the outcome is the same. 🙄
@@rasheedabasheer4046yeah that’s why “most” was used when talking about women not all.
Guys why can’t we have equality tons of feminists hate men and lots of men’s rights activists hate women
@@limestonereaper2590 That doesn't make it better. It's still generalizing.
@@FaizatheTempest that’s fair
If you have a stay at home wife you should have to do zero cleaning. Period.
My heart hurts for 1st OP's daughter. I predict that, when OP's daughter hits 16, she'll run away from her mother to couch-surf with fake friends, next, at 18, she'll stay with/marry a boy who not only mistreats her, cheats on her, abuses her (mentally, emotionally, verbally, and physically), love- bombs her, manipulates her to come back to him, traps her, in order, to isolate her from OP and his sister, threatens to un-alive her if he catches her sneaking off to stay with them, and she'll become conditioned to stay married to the psychotic PO§, because she doesn't want to separate his flesh and blood, even, if he puts her down, goes ballistic, and puts her in the hospital, runs around with other women, or worse, the combo in the three, then, with the help of cops and DV social workers, flee to another state to raise her baby in a safe and stable home environment, and have to stay at a women's shelter, until she finds a job and an apartment, because she won't have OP, his sister, other relatives or friends in her new state to take her in; all the daughter and her baby will have is each other.⚠️
Whaaa, OP is just gonna get custody also what's with this whole she will ONLY marry an abusive narcissistic man thing?Or that the government would be willing to help
Definitely a fake story…. She claims to be a lawyer that specializes in child law…. But asking Reddit for advice… not buying it
Story two; I hope the kids were all drug tested to.. Who knows if the kids knew about them growing.. God only knows if the kids happened to eat any shrooms, or we3d..
The mistakle is that you do a signifaicant amount of house work, while she is a SAHM... That's not fair role distribution. If she's not working 8h+ a day, she can do mist chores and you shouldn't do more than basic house work or cleaning up after yourself.
And I hate when people tell me that "being a SAHM is just as hard"... yeah sure lol. I don't hneed 8h a day to keep the household in check and OP explicitly says he helps with the kids (this shouldn't be only on one partner, no matter what role mode you have) and thus he carries even more burdons and feeds your parasitc ass through.
No empathy for entitled SAHM or SAHD - it's a huge priviledge to be able to spend your time with your kids while they grow up and I'd happily stay home if I had a partner that earned enough.
Story2: OP stole the kids for no good reason and she isn't even the real mother... This is so fucked up and the children will be spoiled brats, nice, good job OP.
For story 2, the parents were found to be using numerous drugs, not just the stuff they were growing, including fentanyl. That sounds like a pretty dang good reason to get the kids outta there.
nice bait
@@oofgottarunnHe is speaking facts I don't know how he's baiting
Is the background music from cowboy Bebop? Thanks
Please can you tell me what is the website you use for the ai voice
Sorry, did the guy in the first story say he was 70 and his wife was 30?
dude wth i was looking for this comment
No he meant he had 70% custody and she had 30%
Did they transition slowly tho?
I dont blame you for missing it; OP definitely glossed over this. Way too fast. Only 1 year of seeing her mom on the weekends, 1 year of 50/50, and 1 year of visiting OP on the weekend.
Seems rushed
@@bengunderson712she said it like three times
@@C.G.Gaster thanks captain ;)
@@bengunderson712how is that rushed?
@@bengunderson712 3 years is rushed?
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15:17 LIMBO
Who plays Minecraft in these videos
Nice AI generated story.
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@@un-kyejohn2968 fatherless child
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@@vlad-igor yooo twins
Yes, husband is at fault here though most would disagree. He did not realize he is,wrong though. Like most men, they don't realize when women complain, it means the man is doing something wrong. At the time he could have saved the marriage, he chose not to.
It's always easy for self centered women to say it's the mans fault. They never accept responsibility for anything. That's exactly why they end up old, single, bitter, miserable people that nobody wants to be around!
help what
Least misandrist american woman ever:
What he should save an abusive marriage where he was constantly overworked and abused by his wife because hes a man?
OP in 2nd story is unhinged. She took care of the child when her sister need it, now it's time to give her her child back. The child still can pass some time with her aunt, but OP seems having a hard time acknowledging that she's not her mom, and that she was doing her sister an act of service by taking care of the child
Clearly you missed the entire story then, if you think OP is the one in the wrong...
They had a LEGAL AGREEMENT and OP's sister wasn't respecting that after she FINALLY got clean once and for all.
If anything, OP's sister is being a bitch towards the one person that helped her and(most importantly) Emma THE MOST.
If anything it seems to me that the sister realized she did dirty to her older daughter but didn't want to admit it, and now that she realized how much she missed and how her daughter sees OP as the "better parent figure", she's jealous of the bond OP developed with Emma.
Nah fam, unhinged is keeping 3 children in a drug den. The brother in law literally had fentanyl in his system and a weed/magic mushroom farm in his basement. Not sure if you’re familiar with how lethal fentanyl is, a small amount can kill a full sized adult. OPs sister was doing untold amounts of mental damage to that poor girl by manipulating her into thinking the only person whom acted like a proper parent to her didn’t love her. If OPs sister wanted to be a proper parent then she should have since the beginning. She used OP as free daycare till she realized she was losing out on the benefits of parenthood. As someone who’s dealt with addiction before I can say 1,000,000% that people dealing with active addiction should not have custody of a hamster let alone another human being.
You're unhinged. Do you not have comprehension skills?
Merely pushing a child out your uterus doesn't make you a mom. The bio mom is just being a typical junkie and acting like the past never happened once she got clean. I'd rather be adopted by a responsible attentive aunt than have my real mom.
"HOW DARE OP NOT ALLOW HER 3 NEICES AND NEPHEWS GET PSYCHOLOGICALLY ABUSED IN AN UNKEMPT DRUG DEN!"
A SAHM that still needs to split household chores is actually useless. Why do you even stay at home all day when you cant even manage that. Vacuuming, Washing clothes, doing the dishes, and cooking food does not take more than 4hrs even if you take your time doing it
i can do that within 2 hrs. It's not that hard like these people on the internet tried to make it so.
Maybe because being a parent is a full time job?
@@ryanmackenzie6109 that’s the point
@@ryanmackenzie6109 so your point is what exactly? Dad's are parenting after work as well. But you agree that it would be ridiculous if the man came home after work, with some of his work left to do that he wants his wife to finish. So if a man comes home after work and then is asked to cook dinner. That's a useless wife.
@@senfnotmayo9004 the point is house work isn't "a woman's job". When you have a home and a family, that is BOTH your jobs. If one parent leaves the house for a paid job, the other person does work around the house for the same duration of time which is usually watching the goddamn kids. Anything left over when he two of them are both around each other at the end of their work day, are shared chores.