Do vegans require a DHA supplement?: Dr Tim Radak
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For those interested in Omega 3, diet and lifestyle factors influencing brain health, Dr Radak covers this in greater detail here:
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Tim Radak, RDN, DrPH, MPH Academic Coordinator for DrPH and PhD
Public Health Programs, Core Faculty
College of Health Sciences Walden University
Dr. Radak, video by Vegan Linked, at the 2019 National Vegetarian Society 45th annual conference at University of Pittsburgh at Johnstown, PA. Dr. Radak covers “Essential Fatty Acids: Recommendations for Plant Based Diets - Do vegans and vegetarians require a DHA supplement?”.
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4:50 - ALA
9:07 - REQUIREMENTS
11:20 - Recommendations
15:43 - Brain and fish
17:15 - ALA and Brain
19:14 - Fish and BP
19:25 - supplements and CVD
21:01 - Brain and fish oil supplements for overweight people
25:00 - Dementia - Alzheimer's / fish oil supplements
26:10 - when there is cognitive improvement how much improvement is there ?
27:08 - pregnancy
28:25 - Depression
29:10 - improvement for reduction in risk
29:40 - Fish oil supplements and Eye
30:15 - vegans and vegetarians
30:45 - cognition in vegans and vegetarians
33:05 - vegetarians had lower EPA and DHA they had the strongest and best scores
34:01 - woman vegetarians
35:45 - vegans had higher EPA
37:47 - Conversion Rate
40:00 - ALA to DHA ( conversation rate from ala to dha is underrepresented )
41:10 - most of these fatty acids get oxidized for energy ( 80 % )
42:30 - the body has a very good way and delicate way of maintaining homeostasis
43:10 - just because intakes or status is lower doesn't necessarily mean there is a problem
44:13 - ratio of omega - 6 to omega - 3
44:57 - we should have ...
45:35 - how much ... ( arachidonic acid )
47:25 -THEORY
48:53 -
54:25 - Flax ( omega - 6 ) Chia ( omega - 3 )
Thanks a lot
Thanks!
Thank you. 🙏
Thank you
Thank you so much this is really helpful.
One overlooked factor in looking at fish eaters and their health and longevity is that fish is expensive so we are looking at a wealthier cohort with more resources to care for their health in general as well as all the other benefits that wealth confers to emotional, and physical well being
That's silly, fish is healthy, meat is human's natural diet especially red meat and the associated fats.
@granddaddyofthemall6320 You gave been brain washed. Get help.
@@granddaddyofthemall6320 Cannibalism is apart of human's "natural diet", evolution does not point to longevity
@@granddaddyofthemall6320 yep, you have been brain washed by the propaganda coming out of the powerful meat and dairy industries.
that's a very good point.
Glad to get this information as I was worried I needed to supplement as a vegan. I add two or three tablespoons of ground flax seed to my oatmeal daily and sometimes have walnuts on salads but that is it for omega 3 fats. Nice to know that those sources should be enough. Stay calm and carry on as a whole food plant based vegan.
Thanks. I eat ground flax, but I don't think was adding enough. More like a tablespoon when I thought of it, which wasn't necessarily every day.
I don't want more than one tablespoon of ground flax per day. A study shows a 20% decrease in testosterone with 30 grams of flax per day. But 30 grams would be around 2-3 tablespoons. What I do is add a tablespoon of ground chia and now I have plenty of ALA.. One tablespoon of ground flax and one tablespoon of ground chia. Plus the ALA from leafy greens.
Wow! This is the most informative and comprehensive lecture I have seen yet on this subject.
Great video! I can save money by knowing I can be vegan without needing to buy expensive supplements for health.
Most comprehensive talk I have heard about this subject. Thanks for this
Phenomenal talk!!
Thank you so much for watching and commenting it's truly inspiring and I definitely need that!
I’ve always been suspicious about Chia seeds because nobody else has said to grind them! I just ground my chia seeds and it makes so much more sense to me now. Thank you! 🙏🏼🌱💪🏼
Soaking them also works in a pinch, but isn't as effective
Not sure why vegans and vegetarians are linked, animal products being a part of vegetarian diets, or they would be vegan
great deep dive in the omega 3:6 and the ALA/EPA/DHA topic, thank you!
Everybody should watch that. Thank you 4 sharing
Thank you for your hard work.
Great lecture! Keep uploading, this is great content.
will do!
Wow! Excellent. I'm relieved.
Wow. I LOVE these lectures. Thanks so much for uploading.
Getting ready to upload another one probably this Wednesday or sooner of Dr. Motley. And one of my favorite videos of all time to be working on, a most epic one on Dr. Greger, I hope to finish within the next week or two...
@@VeganLinked Awesome man. Is it an original video of doctor G? I've seen LOTS of him on TH-cam.. some of which has been repeated.
@@TheObsessedGardener Yes, it's completely original. I was with nutritionfacts helping them shoot his big, new How Not to Diet presentation. Afterwords he received an award. I was capturing beautiful coverage of him. I recently acquired the last of the assets from others (3 more video cameras and the presentation that was given). The presentation was beautiful! It's going to be all time favorite video in a lot of ways. It's not fancy but it'll be very special. I'm almost done editing it. Yesterday I shot Dr Motley talking about heart disease. I worked on it most of yesterday and today and about have it done.
I already have an original one already up that's a Q&A. I also put it on neofilm in case you saw it there. th-cam.com/video/WDDIEDItOgk/w-d-xo.html It is original in that I shot it and it was a Q&A. He covers some things I'm sure you've heard and I imagine things maybe you haven't. The video by Dr. Mills on my channel for protein is fresh too, and the video by Dr. Davis, and Dr. Montgomery.... Oh, and if you LOVE THIS th-cam.com/video/jP1nw71E9g0/w-d-xo.html Pioneer Panel (that's only on my neofilm right now)! I think the videos on Dr Stancic, Dr Fuhrman, Dr Campbell, and Dr Kahn on my channel are pretty special as well. They're all in this playlist: th-cam.com/play/PLmSzj4R9w2MDtbMK6bs_TDznH2Wp_g-QD.html
Very interesting.
Thanks for posting, really informative vid that helps fill in some of my knowledge gaps. The internet needs more ppl like you offering science based facts so ppl like me can make informed choices. Liked and subscribed
There is an error at 54:25. Flax seeds have a higher concentration of omega-3 fatty acids than chia seeds have, and the ratio of omega-3 to omega-6 fatty acids is greater in flax seeds than it is in chia seeds. The speaker might have confused the two or read their nutritional facts incorrectly.
We addressed this via a pinned comment right after I uploaded. And then I must have removed that because he had corrected that on his website. The link is in the description. It was a weird mistake on his part lol. And usually I would remove something like this but I was editing in a rush because I shot a lot that year and had a lot going on. Thanks for pointing it out. I probably should say something in the description about that error.
It's kind of a funny mistake to me because I thought that was the most common and well known source for vegans, of all the things to err on, the main thing that we already know and would notice lol
@@VeganLinked Yes, it’s an odd mistake.
@@VeganLinked You're welcome. I'm glad that he addressed the error.
Not omega-3, but ALA, which human body cannot use.
Guess what I found:
''Although humans are able to synthesize EPA and DHA from alpha-linoleic acid (ALA)-a fatty acid precursor found in flaxseed, walnuts, and canola oil-because ALA’s conversion into EPA and DHA is very low, it is generally recommended that EPA and DHA be consumed directly through dietary sources including cold-water fatty fish and/or fish oil supplements.''
Here, here. I looked how low it can be - 100:1 in worst case, especially if lots of 6s mess around.
It is even worse than with carotene to retinol 12:1, so no thanks. I`m not going to this exchange booth.
Superb thanks, just what I needed!
Thanks for sharing, all your learning to everyone ,see you soon ,,
The USDA has not caught up with the research...how surprising.
Thank you. Great Information.
Thank you one of the best researched substantiated presentations to assist vegan diet rope.
What is vegan diet rope?
Fantastic info, thank you
Thanks Dr for this great information ❤❤
Thanks so much!!
Thoughts on the potential beneficial effects of arachidonic acid? Seems like it might not just be "all bad". >Another study published in 2018 in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition that followed nearly 2,500 men for an average of 22 years found that those with the highest blood levels of linoleic acid had a 43 percent lower risk of dying from any disease during the study period than those with the lowest. Higher blood levels of arachidonic acid reduced the risk of dying by 20 percent. (From Consumer Reports, Do Seed Oils Make You Sick?)
Wow so much information in this one talk, I definitely have to rewatch. So if eating flax seeds and walnuts is sufficient does that mean taking an algae DHA supplement is bad? Because you’re over doing it?
It depends on who you ask. Apparently there is evidence that low Dha is found in elderly with Parkinson's and dementia and that we may not do a big enough conversion from just eating flax and chia seeds. I supplement with the minimum amount which is 250 and not excessive. Once one has dementia there is no going back so I rather take the preventative measure. To my knowledge the high levels of this compound that may be dangerous are way higher than 250.
There is also research done by Dr Joel Fulham,in his research done, it was discovered that all vegans were low in DHA-EPA,some it was to have none at all.There was a very ground breaking plant based pioneer Dr Shelton, who was diagnosed with dementia. So I know take a algae based DHA supplement,even though I also take Flasseeds everyday.
I just eat plant based whole foods, milled flax daily in my groats, handful of walnuts most days and don't use oil much at all. I imagine most vegans that are low were like most vegans that don't eat healthy
The fact is that we can't be sure how efficient our ALA conversion is. Just take a little DHA/EPA rich algal oil everyday and you'll have no worries! :)
somebody elses comment said their dha levels were never sufficient regardless of how much ala they ate, unless they supplemented regularly with the full recommended dose of algal dha
Great Talk!
Verysna
Smart and conplete..thanks...everything I
Dr. McDougall is so out of touch. In a recent interview McDougall stated he’s learned nothing new in the last 40 years. Is he kidding????? I think he’d rather SAY he’s right than actually change a position based on science and actually BE right.
Perfect, the man of truth about DHA. Thank you for the wonderful presentation. As a long time vegan for decades, we recommend only B12 to our clients.
Why do you trust him only when there is evidence that lower levels lead to dementia and Parkinson's and when it is non toxic to supplement with a low amount of dha?
@@samanthab6642 How about T. Colin Powell or Dr. McDougall? Both only recommend B12. For the most part, supplements are modern-day snake oil. Unregulated. Unproven. Overhyped. Sometimes dangerous. Unnecessary for the vast majority of vegans with the exception of B12. Vegans should probably all take B12.
@@nickdelonas "For the most part, [synthetic] supplements are modern-day snake oil." You are right. But you need to include B12 in that group. There's a channel that's done a thorough study of it and found that the bacteria in the supplements are from filthy sources like sewage sludge and dairy waste, and that the history of B12 is shocking. Originating from a misdiagnosis of anemia that was actually shellfish poisoning, it involved cruel dog experiments and RAW COW LIVER marketed to farmers to feed to their livestock, then later to humans, then synthesized and targeted at vegans.
I know many long-term vegans (over 20 years) who have never used any synthetic supplements, including myself.
Great presentation! Wonderful to find this video as I do a presentation on this topic that is very much in line with what you are saying. Also nice to see you presenting the Ahiflower study (18:18) showing greater fluid intelligence and greater brain matter volume. I was the first to bring Ahiflower to the marketplace. I am a 36yr Vegan and have reviewing the research, waiting for this information to surface. The "Omnivore Assumptions" were wrong about protein/EAA's, EFA's and the microbiome research is making it even overwhelmingly clear that the physiological design of humans is for a plant exclusive diet for optimal health.
New radio-isotope tracing study scheduled to be published later this year should definitively put an end to the assumption that humans need exogenous preformed Omegas, and that they are only disrupters of an endogenously epigenetically regulated system that cause imbalances that can lead to health impairment.
Thank you for this brilliant and much needed presentation!
I would be honored for any feedback on my presentation in the goal of getting the most complete and accurate information out to the public.
th-cam.com/video/ZiNTvZwyJRw/w-d-xo.html
Dr Tim thx!!
Great content to throw back at the members of the public that claim to be experts. :)
I'm a life long Vegan and now I'm wondering if I need to really be taking my DHA supplements?🤔🤷🏽♀️
I just eat milled flax every day in my oatmeal. A few days a week I add ground chia as well. I try not to consume a lot of omega 6 rich foods to keep my overall ratios more balanced. But, that's just me, I'm not a doctor, lol... I think this would be sufficient though based on my interpretation of what Dr. Radak is saying...
@@VeganLinked ...I guess I'm on the right path because I make my own Flax/Chia seed concoction by grinding both whole seeds in a coffee grinder and I put heaping tablespoons on just about everything...
@@jazminebryant6601 me too, my wife thinks i'm crazy. Sometimes I'll fill the coffee grinder up with chia, walnuts, sesame seed, sunflower seeds, and pumpkin seeds. Then I pour all that on my salad! :)
Vegan Linked yum I will try that.
I would say no to those expensive supplements. I just use ground flax seed in my smoothies and oatmeal and eat a lot of leafy greens and broccoli. Try reading Dr. Campbell’s book, “Whole.” It basically says fill your plate with whole plants and your body will do the math - it will absorb exactly what you need. But go ahead and give the book a try; it’s a great read.
Canola oil has omega 3’s also
This is so interesting I want to be vegan and I’m researching a lot so I can be knowledgeable on the alternative ways to get nutritions that I need. Xx
Thank you
I highly recommend NutritionFacts.org. Totally free overwhelmingly awesome resource. I was vegan 6 years before I really knew how to eat. The last 4 years I've been learning all I can and still the daily dozen app by nutrition facts is the best app I've seen. I haven't messed with the 21 tweaks, I kind of do some of those things anyways but I'm not trying to lose weight. The daily dozen is just straight up what to eat!
@@VeganLinked thank you so much 🙏🏼
I toy with the cronometer from time to time to really fine tune what I need. From that I realized I need to adjust things (staples, habits, routine) from time to time at least. Like sunflower seeds for E, pumpkin or sweet potatoes or carrots for A, etc... pretty straight forward. For the most part I am mostly consistent with my morning routine, Groats or Steel Cut, flax, berries, nuts, etc... ideally I would get up early, bulk up calories in the morning and not eat after 6, but that's been hard as I'm not really all that structured. I try to eat more salads, ideally I would eat those every day. I LOVE devouring one full of diverse, healthy, complimentary treats; chic peas, vinegar, dark leafies like kale and romaine, green onions, avocado, olives, oregano, nutritional yeast, kelp granules, etc... dinner usually is from the instant pot or a pan or the microwave; but it's always plant based whole foods, even the microwave. If I'm in a rush I may microwave greens, veggies, potatoes, Amy dinners, etc... instead of cooking all the time and I just toss that dinner, or burrito on a pile of greens, onions, etc... Every week we spoil ourselves baking something, but still, using the best ingredient most whole as possible and lowest heat setting possible. Lately I've been making some pumpkin oatmeal chocolate chip cookies that I LOVE! easy way to get that vitamin a. I even throw in some walnuts, cloves, cardamom, ceylon cinnamon, chia seeds, a little maple syrup but that's not necessary, sometimes apple sauce, sometimes almond butter instead of pumpkin, so on, instant pot is similar only with various potatoes, beans, greens, spices, etc... It's just fruits, grains, legumes, and vegetables. Then there's the occasional GBOMB fixation moment Greens Beans Onions Mushrooms and Berries throughout the day one way or another. But, I break it down beans, greens, grains, fruits, veggies, mushrooms, nuts, seeds, herbs, and spices. When I look at my grocery cart I think about these 10 categories and what I have at home and need to get. Dry beans are best but canned is fine too, frozen veggies and berries, etc... are excellent, cut out all the processed crap and only buy and keep things around that are plant based whole foods. If you're in a rush there's always an oatmeal from mcdonalds instead of an impossible burger from burger king or beyond sausage from dunkin donuts. But, if it's rare who's to care? There's just never a need to eat the animals, not that I've found going on ten years now.
@@rafaelsoarezz4580 Oh, last thing, this page on my site has links to the daily dozen and some other cool stuff. I've not published it yet because I want to add some more things and I probably need to proof it, lol: veganlinked.com/govegan/
@@VeganLinked than you so much you’re amazing
Good summary.
I haven’t watched the video but I’ve read through the comments, and I’ve noticed no one is mentioning 1) hemp seeds and 2) cold pressed flaxseed oil. Both those things are supposed to be very good for omega 3s, no?
Those are definitely a great source of fatty acids. It's good to get a balanced variety. So different nuts seeds algae's seaweeds and other whole plant foods are all great to get in the mix. And of course eat these with other whole plant foods to increase the absorption rate of fat soluble nutrients. I don't know what cold press is all about but I just grind my is grind my flax seeds fresh.
@@VeganLinked cold pressed flaxseed oil is just oil from flaxseeds that has been processed in a way that it doesn’t heat up the seeds to destroy its enzymes and oils. It’s higher in ALA by weight than the seeds because it is just the oil pressed from the seeds.
Is it possible that the body only converts a small amount of DHA to prevent the oxidation and free radical damage from the unstable nature of DHA in our warm body environment. Also the brain only absorbs 3.8 mg of DHA per day and has a half life of 2.5 years.
Great question! I think about that in regard to a lot of things it seems too. Like basically when it comes to any nutrient. And how heme-iron isn't regulated and oxidizes. Or even how non-heme iron from supplements may interfere with absorption from plant based sources, the essentials of the thought varies but always seem to wind up back at just eat plant based whole foods! :) I'll try to ask the doc about this when the opportunity arises and share here...
hi Christopher, can you please cite your source for the brain absorbing 3.8 mg of DHA per day please?
Here's another perspective. According to Dr. Bill Harris, PhD, who has devoted his entire professional career to studying omega-3's, the ratio omega six to omega three doesn't really matter that much. It's the total amount of the EPA/DHA (Omega 3's) that matters. According to several sources, the enzyme that converts ALA to EPA/DHA is not very efficient in converting 6's to 3's in the human body therefore for vegans, supplementation of some sort would seem important even if one is eating plenty of flax or Chia. I personally take algal DHA/EPA supplements because I prefer to stay away from animal-based products and in any event, the fish get their omega-3's from algae, they do not make it themselves. And omega-3 blood levels should be checked because the absorption is variable from person to person. Just like with vitamin D, you should check your levels not just how much many international units you take.
The RDA set by the institute of medicine is for 1.6 grams of ALA unless you're an infant. All nutrients are about what you absorb. Often absorption depends on many other variables. Sure, get tested. But should it be an idex of over 4, 5, or 6. If venture to say that most vegans, especially those that don't eat properly for fatty acid intakes vegan or not, are below 4, many maybe even 0. For years now I've been consistently eating a high ALA diet. I ordered a omega test kit from Fuhrman and I'm going to have a second test done at the same time. Then I'm going to start eating seaweeds and algae consistently for a year and retest. Then if I need to take the expensive route I'll supplement. As meaningless as it may anecdotally seem I may track and share all this.
Spirulina and chlorella are also sources of omega 3 fatty acids. Seaweed also shouldn't be discounted just because it's unfamiliar to Americans - people in western countries have been eating seaweed regionally for centuries, such as in the Welsh or Irish diets. Lightly toasted dulse makes a great bacon substitute for breakfast on a plant-based diet, and it can also be used in soups and other recipes as a salt substitute.
Spirulina often is contaminated with neurotoxins and hepatotoxins. So it is not recommended at all.
But dulse and chlorella are cool. I recently inquired with doctor Neal Barnard about B12 analogs and seaweed, he didn't respond to that specifically. But he said he wishes our culture embraced seaweed because it's a very healthy powerful food. I use kelp or dulse granuals. kelp tends to be out of control high im iodine but I assume that's ok in granules since I don't sprinkle a lot. I do want to incorporate seaweed in other ways though!
Your mind will gather evidence according to your wants and give you condolences.
Thank you Tim, excellent presentation! Very helpful. Though you didn't summarize and conclude at the end, I am surmising that ultimately the body is intelligent enough, given the correct diet for humans, (WFPB no refined oils), to convert exactly what we need - without a DHA/EPA supplement.
yeah, we were tight for time, another speaker was coming in. And, I came to the same conclusion :)
@@VeganLinked Great! Good to know. and Dr. Klaper has done some recent sensible commentary on this topic also. It reminded me of Campbell's book, "Whole".
So the supplement is indicated as a compromise at addl. expense for those lacking the will to explore a WFPB lifestyle that will bring vibrant health, so maybe instead of being referred to as a 'supplement' it should be referred to as a crutch...
Awesome presentation and really informative! A question about the recommended 1.6g for men/1.1g for women of Omega-3’s: A lot of reputable vegan sources say it might be a good idea to double that to 3.2g/2.2g to ensure there’s enough ALA conversion. I know Dr. Radak more-or-less addressed this by talking about how the body can adjust its conversion rates accordingly; I just wanted to know if anyone has any sources for or against the notion of doubling the Omega-3’s since it is also stated that one should not exceed 3g per day of combined food/supplements. Thanks so much!
It's probably best to get tested to see how you're doing but it's easy to double that just by eating a full serving of ground flax. And eating whole plant foods consistently and adding a serving of walnuts. You'll do way more than double that
🤔To measure the conversion rate did the people conducting the experiments use carbon 13 (as opposed to common carbon 12) marking of the ALA to make it noticeable when it was converted to EPA & DHA? If so was it taken into account that the body is also converting (carbon 12 based) ALA from storage into EPA and DHA? 🙃🚀
If this was not taken into account then it likely means that conversion is not so low. 😊
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Dr Radak may not be able to respond here. Hey, I watched some of the video you recommended in a previous comment. I need to finish that and interview him, that was getting really good!
How about the C 15 fatty acid that’s hi in dairy and some fish?
What about it, it's not essential.
Boil it down to a few sentences.
Eat a variety of whole plant foods. A serving of Walnuts or fresh Ground flax for insurance. Get an omega-3 index and see if you're where you want to be. Consult with a plant based doctor regarding your specific needs, especially if they have a lifestyle medicine degree
All u need to know
Hey, I'm reading about a omega index test , is this a good way to check your ala,dha and epa levels?
Does anyone have the study on olive oil increasing ALA to EPA conversion rate (Perona, 2007)?
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35:40 I am gonna look into that study.
What if we just don't fully understand how much the body can convert?
I think it's pretty easy and straight forward, just eat plant based whole foods. Even when low conversion will most likely be sufficient unless you have something else wrong with you.
Are there good long term studies that look at the relationship of omega-3 index and health outcomes??
Would love to know this myself. But, then it'll be like, on what populations? And how many controls, and was it RCT's, etc... lol. In time maybe....
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I'm 18 years old and just bought DHA algae oil 200mg because I wasn't sure if I should have some. I have at least one tablespoon of flax seed per day but I thought that's just ALA not DHA in it. So is that okay if I take the 200mg algae oil DHA 2-3 times a week alongside the ground flax?
I am not qualified to answer that. But from what I understand it "may" be ok. It "may" be beneficial or not beneficial, we don't know. I imagine it is probably beneficial at the frequency you're doing it, one or two times a week. The RDA (which may or may not even be accurate like anything else) is for 1.6 ALA. if you're eating a well planned whole plant foods exclusively diet of legumes, greens, grains, fruits, veggies, mushrooms, nuts, seeds, herbs and spices and a variety of each you may be getting enough ALA without even trying. Fresh ground flax just makes sure you get there. A serving of walnuts may too. I try to add a little fat in most meals, chia in my smoothies, flax in my groat oats, walnuts in my salad, etc. Chlorella may also be advantageous for getting the elongated fatty acids DHA and EPA. This is a very controversial topic. It doesn't seem we have conclusive evidence. Dr Fuhrman is convinced more people need to supplement, other doctors not so much. Some do just as a precaution while others don't as a precaution. Dr Udo says we probably convert just fine from ALA to DHA/EPA otherwise we would die. He says symptoms of s deficiency may appear as dry skin, cracked elbows, etc. But I'm not sure if this would preceed deleterious effects on the brain from being deficient. Some say test but the test may not be accurate or reflect what is happening in the brain. Some worry the supplement may back up a pathway in a negative way. I am doing an experiment on myself although I'm aware of the many limitations. So I'm just doing the flax and walnut and whole plant food thing right now. Then I'm gonna test my index. Then I'm going to start consuming algae more on a regular basis and maybe even chlorella. Then I'm gonna test again. Then based on those results I may or may not decide to supplement and then test a 3rd time. This is not a good test but it's kind of potentially interesting to see what happens. Ideally I would do this each time at least 6 or more months apart. I may do it a year apart I'm not sure... I may not even do it lol. I already bought a test from doctor ferman and I was going to take it simultaneously with the my doctor doing their own test. This way I can see if there is any variance between the results. It's been hard to find time to do these things though... But thanks to you I'm thinking about it again lol!
For clarification though I do think what you're doing is probably totally fine and makes perfect sense. If I was going to supplement that I would probably take it as frequent as somebody would eat fish for example. And that would be like once or twice a week. And on a daily basis I would just eat nuts and seeds and other whole plant foods. Check out chlorella, it seems legit. I haven't tried it yet. I ordered some and then my wife ended up using it all, I was waiting to take these test 1st...
@@VeganLinked thanks so much for your reply I really appreciate it! I think I'll keep supplementing it 2 times a week and see if I notice a change because I do have dry skin I also suffer from eczema and I know maybe eating fish would help for the Omega 3 but I'm vegan so the supplements will be like me eating fish. Yeah that's going to be an interesting thing to document! I'll let you know if I notice a change. I make sure I eat one tablespoon of flax per day because I'm allergic to nuts so sadly I can't eat them 😭 But I'm eating sunflower seeds now which is good. I also am allergic to all the fruits too so my diet is mainly whole grain vegetables.
@@VeganLinked My doctor also told me I was low on Vitamins D so I bought 1,000 IU yesterday and I'm taking it. Is that good? It's because I don't eat any other foods with it sadly.
@@ashcookiesfitnessmore496 D is synthesized via the sun through your skin, which you probably know. You can get it from mushrooms if they have been properly exposed to UVB. I think 2,500 IU is what we get. Here is a good source for more information on supplements nutritionfacts.org/optimum-nutrient-recommendations/ the daily dozen app is great too.
Algae?
I started throwing a spoonful of flaxseed meal in my oatmeal everyday and my testes started to ache. This went on for months before I made the connection and stopped the flax and my nutpain was gone in about a month. I made the connection when I read about how too much flax can be bad for your balls. Just hempseed, walnuts, chia seeds, seaweed, and dark green leafy vegetables from now on!
Wow my balls must be immune to whatever the hell your talking about lol
Cause I had a spoonful of flaxseeds and my testes ejaculated through sheet metal.
I think for most people, the vast majority, proof is in the puding (i think it is said in that way), there thousands of people who hates fish and all kind of sea food and they are healthy at least till their 40s or 50s with no signs of dha or EPA deficiency. And most of them eat a high fat diet.
Or just eat whole plant foods esp nuts and seeds
@@VeganLinked of course, justo stating that EPA and dha deficiency are not easy to exist.
@@anonimogonzalezperez4951 "are not easy to exist" what does that mean?
I imagine people are more often chronically deficient in most nutrients while being in excess of others...
@@VeganLinked I mean that it is not easy to develop a real deficiency on dha and EPA, as evidence suggests. Many people don't eat fish ever, not flax , nuts ir chia.
@@anonimogonzalezperez4951 It may be easy if people are not eating whole foods.
So can someone please tell me the conclusion? Is it just a total mess of contradictory research findings?
Eat a variety of whole plant foods including nuts and seeds, greens and beans, etc. Including some certain seaweeds and algaes like nori and chlorella. Do this consistently for a year and then get your fatty acids tested
Could you clarify what you said about flax seed containing high levels of omega 6 please- I was under the impression that it was primarily omega 3's. For example, on this wiki page concerning the omega oil content of different foods, flax seed is 1 : 3.9, and chia seed is 1 : 3, which aren't that different- are these ratios incorrect? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratio_of_fatty_acids_in_different_foods
for example, from this wiki page of the ratios- flax is 1 : 3.9 and chia 1: 3, which aren't that different- are thses ratios incorrect?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratio_of_fatty_acids_in_different_foods
@@PantherDavid I think that was a mistake, he started to talk about omega 3's - is it the comment a few mins in?
I know exactly what you're talking about. I am inquiring with him to see if maybe he was saying some other pathway involved causes it to result in more n-6 or if that's just a mistake. Thanks! :) I know he's busy with work right now and impending holiday's but maybe he'll have time to respond soon. I'll follow up when he does.
Thank you for your inquiries. In short, Dr. Radak reviewed the information about omega 3 to 6 ratios and found that chia was not necessarily better than flax. He explained that this may have been due to noticing some variance in levels from one product to another. Flax and chia are equivocally excellent plant based sources for essential fatty acids. As mentioned in the video even without seeds and nuts we “may” be fine simply with other plant based whole foods, and additionally, Dr. Radak feels this is not something like a supplement that needs to be taken on a daily basis. But, it’s still a good idea to consume them from various whole food sources (not refined oils); chia, flax, and walnuts are great sources.
Hey I have a doubt. Even though if you are on a whole food vegan diet without any added oil. Still if you do take dha from algae supplement, isn't that the safest option to prevent brain shrinkage instead of taking risk. As I have read some comments where some people despite being on a low omega 6 diet and eating 5 table spoon ground flax daily had low dha levels in their blood. And prostate cancer was probably higher in pescaterians ?? Because of high fish consumption that is loaded with toxins?? What's your opinion on that.. supplementing low dha let's say 100 mg daily from algae..
There's still so much we don't know. Like what is the ideal omega index and is it the same for vegans and does supplementing work the way you are suggesting and not increase risk of other diseases, etc. I say get tested and go from there. Like, eat a variety of whole plant foods for a year and test, it that doesn't get you where you want do one or two tablespoons of fresh ground flax every day for 6 months, test again and still not there try adding seaweed and algae to your diet like nori and chlorella, test still isn't where you want it then supplement with algae... just an idea though, it's probably best to consult with your plant based doctor.
@@VeganLinked I get your point and it seems logical. But check out these vegan doctors who have dealt with long term vegan population. I think safest prescription to general population have been discussed in this short video. Despite on a whole food diet this doc's long term pateint did develop Alzheimer's and Parkinson. th-cam.com/video/FL9AbH9aNPg/w-d-xo.html
By the way in my country there are no plant based doctor. TH-cam doctors are my source of information 😂
What else helps an elderly brain is myelinated nerves.
Which is why so many articulate, brilliant, healhy old doctors are vegan
So what’s the answer? I don’t have a whole hour.
Eat walnuts, flaxseeds, chia seeds, hemp seeds, edamame, seaweed, and algae. I just eat milled flax every day either in my groat oats, or smootie, or sometimes in my vegan cookies I make with banana/oat/peanut butter/chocolate chips. I also eat other whole foods that have it. And I eat a serving of walnuts every couple of days.... Just one serving of walnuts seems to do the trick, the milled flax is extra insurance... You could always get tested for it but I haven't done that yet.
The video suggests that we don't need to supplement Omega 3 if we eat enough ALA rich foods. BUT... My thought is: Because we can't be sure how efficient our ALA conversion is, it's better to just take a little DHA/EPA rich algal oil everyday and not risk our health. :)
@@Corilo91 I enjoy just taking fresh milled flax with my groats and a handful of walnuts with my salad and/or sweet potato :) it's like omega 3 boom boom
@@VeganLinked The Omega 3 you get from plants is ALA, not DHA and EPA. We scientifically don't know how efficient our conversion of ALA is. Giving for certain that it's enough is dangerous for you, and spreading that idea to others means to put them in danger. Understand this and wait for scientific research to clarify the argument.
@@Corilo91 what you're suggesting is I spread reductionism. We don't know how efficient anyone is going to be at anything, why stop there? I hear this for every possibility it seems. People are suppose to work with their doctor. If they are not converting well then they can work with their doctor on what to do.
Vegetarians aren’t plant based.
yeah, but the two terms are sometimes used interchangeably kind of unfortunately. Strict vegetarian is sometimes used for vegan. But, vegetarians kinda suck, vegans rock!
Great I get this video after paying my lifes savings on omega 3 supplements :|
Yeah, I bought a bunch years ago and didn't even use it, it just went rancid. I've since realized I get tons of omega 3 from eating whole plant foods, especially when I include flax and/or walnuts, so much it's the least of my concerns.
You've got your crop protection permit, correct?
For biofuels or livestock feed?
Very interesting! I'm still taking a low dose of plant omega 3's to be safe. However very interesting point about why biologically conversion of plant ALA is low.
Hello Florin.
You wrote "I'm still taking a low dose of plant omega 3's to be safe."
Have you looked into this? Because from what I've read and come across, supplements may not be safe.
Jeff Nelson at Vegsource for example has done a great investigation into this issue, and demonstrated a couple of studies that show a connection between omega3 supplements, higher levels of DHA in the blood and various forms of prostate cancer. That may be a good idea to take into account.
Here is the link to his investigation clip: th-cam.com/video/c8_kTtWUnf8/w-d-xo.html
Do as you wish.
Best regards from Sweden. :)
@@MindVersusMisery what about algae.
Finally I hear the facts on this. People have been trying to shove fish oil down my throat ever since I went vegan. Big names like David Wolfe and Dr Mercola. Dr Lorraine Day's story woke me up to supplements though.
The verdict is still out i think as to the best way to obtain fatty acids. I'm betting on aquatic vegetables like seaweeds. ALA is easy. But there "may" be an advantage to preformed fatty acids like DHA which may be advantageous to get from seaweeds and algae. Some of these are dangerous though, like blue green and spirulina.
@@VeganLinked Yes. I have done the spirulina thing and blue green algae. But my own experience was a friend who studied at Ann Wigmore suggested I blend grass with rainwater and drink half a gallon a day after I sieved it. After 6 weeks of doing this I fasted 3 days over the full moon only on distilled water. Second day I coughed 23 hours straight. Green mucus some with flecks of dried blood came out mainly from my throat and some from the nasal cavity. After one hour of sleep I spat a soft green tumor from the back of my throat covered with veins growing from a spot where it had obviously broken off. The Wigmore people got back to me a month later and said it may have been a sinus tumor. An acupuncturist friend and a herbalist friend said the same. My own research later on this was from a video called 90 mineral produce fromocean water. This man fed his 90 year old dad wheatgrass juice evry day for two years. His age spots disappeared, he threw away his glasses (so did I) and passed his driver license.When he stopped the wheatgrass juice his dad died a couple years later. He said that grass is the only veg that has every mineral needed for life on Earth.
@@karenishness1 blue green algae has BMAA a neurotoxin and so does spirulina as well as a hepatotoxin. That's why is said what I said about those specifically. There's plenty of other aquatic veggies that are .ore than sufficient like nori, kelp in small doses, or single cell green algae like chlorella.
@@karenishness1 that's freaking wild about what you coughed up! Crazy! And the 90 year old dad, yeah. That sounds legit. Have you heard of Hippocrates Wellness? They use wheat grass a lot. I did a video of their head chef there you may enjoy, Chef Ken Blue
@@VeganLinked Thank you. I still imbibe a little roasted seaweed often but I am given that dried seaweed is actually better.
Never trust the advice of any doctor that sells the product he is recommending.
Dr. Furman?
At least Fuhrman also takes what he is selling. :) I know, I've stayed with his family before ;)
Vegan Society tells vegans they will die if they don't take B12 supplements. They also sell B12 supplements on their website. How convenient.
I've never taken a B12 supplement in my life, don't buy any fortified foods, and been vegan since 1990. Shouldn't I be dead or in hospital by now?
How can there be an hour for a yes or no question?
because there's more questions than one, when might we, who might, why, etc... I simply don't supplement, I just eat whole plant foods and a variety including nuts and seeds, and of course beans, greens, grains, fruits, veggies, and mushrooms...
@@VeganLinked I eat spaghetti beans and sunflower seeds bananas and broccoli mostly cause I hate earning money
@@whoeverofhowevermany You should try to get you should try to get some ground flax seed in the mix if that's all you're eating. I added to my groats in the morning but sometimes we add it to snacks and smoothies.
@@VeganLinked that's decent advice, I'll try to remember when I'm getting groceries
At the McDougall's slide you lost me. Lost the trust in anything that followed.
It's simple, if I'm eating plant based whole foods I'm probably getting enough without trying. A serving of walnuts has all the fatty acids I need, even accounting for low absorption. Eating like the daily dozen shows, the free app by nutritionfacts.org I have everything I need.
But what are you confused by specifically?
@@VeganLinked I am not confused at all. It's just that if someone uses McDougall as a reference in a presentation, for me it's just game over. In my opinion McDougall is dogmatic and takes firm stances even when I does not understand much of the topic that is being discussed. An example is presented in this very video, where he told the speaker not to bother looking at omega 3 deficiencies because one could get enough of them even from a diet made by 100% rice. Or when for years McDougall maintained that vegans did not need B12 supplementation because during his career he had rarely seen patients suffering from acute B12 deficiency.
@@Sobchak2 Ah, so glad I asked and thank you for sharing. I TOTALLY get what you're saying. I love McDougall but I'm not a McDougallite follower really at all. And I CAN'T STAND JEFF NELSON OF VEGSOURCE. He is definitely brilliant and has made major momentum in this movement. I'm more a fan of Dr. Greger, Dr. Ornish, Dr. Fuhrman even, and so on... I understand that there's a bit of a chasm between no SOS based doctors and those that say "salt it up" like Dr Garth Davis. I love Dr. Mills but I'm not religious. Dr Esselstyn is awesome but over the top a bit much for me, kind of putting him in that McDougall camp. And so on...
Having said that though, Dr. Radak mentions McDougall and he definitely appreciates him, probably more than I do. But, he also knows more than I do. But, in this presentation he's talking about the vast array of information so it totally makes sense he would include McDougall even if he did or didn't believe McDougall. At that point you mention where Radak mentions McDougall, it makes sense, it really does. People tend to get more caught up in worrying about nutrients rather than just eating the right foods. Dr. Campbell does a good job explaining this, I know, he probably leans toward McDougall. But, rightfully so when it comes to this sort of thing. Like I was saying in my initial response to you, if you're eating enough plant based whole foods and a healthy variety then most likely you're getting enough without even adding nuts and seeds intentionally to do so. But, if you're worried about it intentionally add fresh, milled flax every day and a serving of walnuts.
You may appreciate what I'm saying more if you watch this video th-cam.com/video/tkUrJgXKIKg/w-d-xo.html of Dr. Campbell where he talks about talking about individual nutrients causing mischief and confusion. And that it's all far more complicated that individual nutrients. And this I think supports what McDougall was saying to Radak many many years ago.
So, I understand where you're coming from. But, I'd like to suggest considering not overgeneralizing just because McDougall is in the mix, esp. since there's so many others in the mix of this presentation.
Thanks for the open dialog! :)
@@Sobchak2 It's also worth mentioning that while some of these doctors and superheroes none of them are 100% right 100% of the time and never will be. So, I try to have a balanced approach at this looking at both the no SOS docs and the SOS docs. Hell, I even listen to the Carnitards quacks just to size up their game and strengthen mine. But, at the end of the day, I really love all the plant based doctors. They may have some nuances between them as we all do. But, the underlying current from them all is eat plant based whole foods! :) or better GO VEGAN
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This video should be removed until it has been edited to remove the ridiculous statement that flax is a poor source of Omega 3s.
Lol, I understand, I could probably just take that little segment out of the video... It's cleared up in the pin comment and description
I will see what I can do about just cutting that piece out
Someone please give a quick summary.
Should vegans supplement DHA?
YES OR NO?
Should vegans supplement ALA?
YES OR NO?
Get tested, talk to your plant based doctor. It's impossible to overgeneralize because everyone comes into the situation from eating and living different ways. I'm not supplementing yet. I'm doing an experiment by simply eating a healthy variety of whole plant foods the best I can. I have fresh ground flax every morning too and walnuts most days of the week. I'm going to take two different omega index tests at the same time at my doctor's office (one I ordered and her test). Then when I see what my index is I'll go from there. After the test I plan on consuming sea vegetables more consistently for several months, at least 4 months. Then I'll try and take the tests again. Then based on my index I "may" take a supplement...
@@VeganLinked should we vegans be concerned about cyanide levels in flax seeds??
Dr klaper says no
I agree :)
@@VeganLinked if you dont handle seeds or oil very well, what would u do to get your dha/omega3s
Dr Klaper actually said "i don't know" when I spoke to him
@@fruitkid4759 this video is cool th-cam.com/video/gdGLYBhfMT0/w-d-xo.html
Unfortunately, the DHA/EPA algea supplement caused my LDL to rise - but the EPA only supplement did not.
How do you know this?
All supplement will cause imbalance . Eat balance diet
Here's an another great talk on this, it was galvanized by recent criticisms made by a TH-camr but if you look past that there's some great information in there: th-cam.com/video/qS1Pp4pxvU8/w-d-xo.html
not attacks on the man's character, criticism of his actions (including his constant use of straw men, etc.), by pointing out that his current behavior stretches back a few decades (during which he repeatedly pushed supplements based on dubious claims, that he then "helpfully provided" in his own store).
@@fjdhaan did you watch the video?
@@fjdhaan I rephrased my comment as you suggested :). Let's not leave out Tim does not work with patients, Fuhrman has for 30 years. So, they will most likely have a slightly different take on this. Tim has probably spent more time researching this though. Will he continue to? Only time will tell, I hope so because I love Tim's work here and he's a brilliant man. Tim does say here if you want to match the levels of an omnivore (which he makes clear may not be necessary) and want to supplement use algae based supplement. Most of these plant based doctors have suggested it's totally fine to supplement low dose DHA/EPA. Even Klapper may have already retracted his recent opinion against it. There's nothing wrong with Fuhrman offering products on his website. He is involved in many things. He could easily drop a product and still have many other great products. He could even drop all his products and still have a clinic, speaking engagements, and retreats/immersion camps.
@@VeganLinked I read the transcript on his site, didn't watch video. Fuhrman keeps make unsubstantiated claims about how your brain shrinks "to the point of dementia from long-standing fatty acid deficiency, and experience memory loss". Unsubstantiated because the data to prove this claim that dementia is caused by "long-standing fatty acid deficiency" simply doesn't exist, so his suggestion that this is causally related makes 0 sense. That aside, there's the fact that most "dementia" is caused either by parkinsons or alzheimers; i.e., either by atherosclerosis / strokes (etc.), long-term animal protein/fat consumption, and/or by long-term heavy metal accumulation (aluminium).
@@fjdhaan I thought the idea of aluminum causing dementia was not proven. Just a quick search (albeit not thorough, lol) shows that there's no convincing evidence: alzheimer.ca/en/Home/About-dementia/Alzheimer-s-disease/Risk-factors/Aluminum . But, this is something I've already heard for a few years now. I don't have time really to research that. I've heard of amyloid plaques synthesizing from methionine (and this amino acid is found in higher amounts in animal protein) being a strong culprit.
Meat always gets the blame. Never the cheap garbage oils that are contained in virtually everything.
That's completely rubbish. It is consistently and clearly stated amongst vegans and anyone listening objectively and intelligently that a variety of whole plant foods is best for optimum healthspan. This means no processed foods because as Dr Fuhrman says on my channel a bagel is just as bad as eating meat. But, it really is worse to eat meat, he just means diet wise. Eating animals is worse for every other reason. Not just health but also eating animals is not sustainable, fosters violence, and is cruel.
I desperately need to see a Radak vs Goldner debate on omega 3s. She seems to be claiming extreme benefits and that it doesn't even slow weight loss. Any input?
I imagine that would be fun but he's busy reviewing the science, working and trying to live a life so hes not been able to get in front of the camera lately much less debate anyone
@@VeganLinkedWhat about you? Have you seen any of her videos on the subject?
Why take a 'vegan' DHA if only non vegans are in need of the supplement?
Thanks for your reply Vegan Linked. However, most of the ppl especially not vegans and scientist are not your opinion.It depends what you mean by restrictive, Nutritional wise for sure not, but regarding the rest of humanity it is (no meet, fish, diary, any animal food).It also depends on the education of vegans, you do good job to to so. I really appreciate that. However, I know many dirty vegans (from India or other religious vegans, or not well educated), which have the same problems than meat eaters, there are fat, having diabetes and other problems. So, it always depends on the education about nutrition. A conscious well educated vegan, who takes his supplements, is very healthy but also a conscious well educated Ketoeaner or Paleoteaner is very healthy. You cannot compare yourself with the standard American Diet. Every diet would work if you eliminate all processed food in the diet and eat only whole foods.
I'm sure there are no shortage of nasty vegans, lol. But I don't see any evidence that a keto or paleo (animal based) or atkins diet helps with prevent our leading chronic diseases. There is only one diet that has been proven to treat and even reverse our leading killer, heart disease and many of the other leading causes of death and that is a plant based diet. In fact, everything I've been seeing suggest that in our new, longer lifespans (provided we can maintain it and ideally keep expanding it) eating animal products is at all necessary or beneficial. In fact, eliminating all animal products has been shown to be very beneficial as well as other processed foods. I saw other processed foods because animal products are processed foods. They acquired their nutrients invariably from plant based sources, then their bodies digestive system and dna processed the food, then humans kill and process the animal, then a person usually cooks the animal. The entire process is very degrading. And the end result is damaged goods hyper absorbed, much like sugar, salt, oil, etc... that is toxic to the vascular system. This is why Dr. Ornish, Dr. Kim Williams, Dr. Joel Kahn, Dr. Esselstyn, and so many other plant based cardiologist are so very successful at treating their patients with plant based whole foods. Plants are so unique to animals that nutrients from the plants are more easily regulated and the body can then use and synthesize what it needs. This whole process is chaotic and inflammatory from oxidized dietary cholesterol and oxidized heme iron, and endotoxins from rotting flesh, and the bacteria that rotting flesh fosters which is completely different than the bacteria from a plant based diet that is more protective and invigorating to the mitochondria. This is why eating within the animal kingdom is so much more likely to cause autoimmune diseases, cardiometabolic diseases, and even zoonotic diseases.
Yes, education is needed. And that is my goal. There are so many amazing scientist and doctors out there now, it's growing rapidly, over 12,000 with PCRM now. Even medicaid is supporting the Ornish program now. Even Kaiser Permanente is advocating the plant based diet, and they benefit from healthy customers the most!
I concur, you only need to be a well educated vegan to be healthy, in order to avoid all the unnatural choices that our industrial environment throws at us. If you think about what foods are easy too grow and store in good amounts, that basically gives you a McDougall diet, without thinking much about it.
Recently an Indian who lived upto 126age he was vegan and did only yoga each day, and was doing semen retention for life . He didn't know what is omega fatty acids... Other factors can influence our health
The healthier marker my be iodine
Iodine is definitely essential.
yes in fact there is an "intelligent design" at work here, it's called natural selection
fish convert ALA so why humans cant this is the orgin of DHA and EPA , i made experiment and for a week was eating only fish as main meal and next week yogurt with lots of chia and flax and results were very similar , i believe convertion is far higher
Humans and fish are not close relatives. And while I'm not an expert, one week is probably WAY too short time.
@@Leksa135 fish eat algies its their source of OMEGA 3 later big fish eat small fish and omega 3 are passed , i eat flax daily and have similar results , flax are better than chia and cheaper
@@damiandamiano3651 But again, one week is super short time for any kind of dietary testing.
I talk about the conversion in this video. I think it's perfectly sufficient, esp. if you eat as you should (plant based whole foods). It's easy, people try to be reductionists. But, the answer is in the foods more than the nutrients. th-cam.com/video/1h1Vg2e8piQ/w-d-xo.html And Dr. Campbell talks about reductionism in this video and touches on how it's not necessarily good: th-cam.com/video/SajEYq2E_TY/w-d-xo.html
Juste à simple question,farm raised fish or wild fish.
simple answer, no fish. Just eat whole plant foods, easy
ALL OILS ARE EXTREMELY TOXIC ALL my WFPB doctors said it
Yes, processed foods are not nearly as good as plant based whole foods.
That's an absurd exaggeration. Surely it's good to generally avoid oils, but a little algal oil to be sure to get enough DHA and EPA fatty acids is only beneficial. We are talking about few drops.
I am vegan and also deaf which means my chances of dementia r high should I supplement or eat flax and chia etc
Maybe algae
@@Mijn24 algae? Like in supplement?
I feel like there's no possible way to get enough DHA from flax or chia to prevent dementia; If we look at what's worked for dementia in other studies, it's about 1g of omegas (and that's not even a very high dose, that would be like 1 salmon's worth). If you eat 2 tablespoons of flax (mayoclinic recommends 1-2 per day, no more than 5), you would get 1.6g of ALA which only converts to about 0.128g of DHA. You'd have to eat about 16 tablespoons of flax every day just to hit that minimum 1g mark. I wouldn't bother.
We can't be sure how efficient our ALA conversion is. Just take a little DHA/EPA rich algal oil everyday and you'll have no worries! There's no sense in risking our health. :)
Grind up a bunch of organics seeds, store in refrigerator, and throw them on your daily salads. Stay far away from pharma drugs and flu shots. In fact, all vaccines are linked to dementia as they're loaded with aluminum and heavy metal toxins that when injected bypass the blood-brain barrier.
17g of omega 6 and 1.6g of omega 3. That's a terrible ratio.. lmao.
Seems like I read 5:1 is ideal but really, who knows what they're getting without insane tracking. When I track I seem to be getting the reverse, way more omega 3 than 6. But cronometer isn't very accurate so it's hard to really know whats up. I just eat whole plant food and a variety; beans, greens, grains, veggies, mushrooms, nuts, seeds, herbs & spices with sunshine, water, tea and too much coffee
Hmm I wonder about my black seed oil and Spinach leaf Extract use I don't feel I need omega 3/fish oil not necessarily a vegan here but I wonder 🤔
Wow, I'm only the 5th viewer.
Soon you'll really be 1 in 1000 :) I was surprised too.
Regarding the domestication of animals you are also correct, before 12,000 years ago we did not drink milk or have cheese. But we also did now grow grains before that time.th-cam.com/video/5dw1MuD9EP4H/w-d-xo.htmlowever, you cannot deny that we were hunter (or fisher) and gatherers. There is no unique Paleo diet, because the food supply around the world is not the same. The Inuit have 98% of animal food and some African tribes had 80% of vegan foods.Yes also sugar was introduces in masses in the last 300 years, diary about 9000 years ago. So Veganism is a life style of the new world.
Seriously, this took an hour? Dr. Michael Greger can do this in 5 minutes and get the same info.
Seriously everyone that did a talk at this event spent an hour on their topic. He is passionate about this specific topic and has spent a great deal of time on it. And he continues to research it and you can find updates on his website.
sounds like bullshit to me
You lost me at religion 😂😂😂
Intelligent design wtf?
He think he was saying this as an analogy of sorts. He's explaining the balance between n-6 and n-3 as one being evil and one being good and then follows it up with "it's just not that simple".
What, you've never noticed how "intelligently" the entire world was designed, including symbiotic relationships in Nature like bees, bats, moths and pollination, clouds providing rain, sun providing light and energy, trees providing oxygen, plants providing nutrition, and how the human and animal body are miracles of perfect operation when treated properly? What part of "Intelligent design" don't people understand?
This guy is so confusing..
lol, there's one part that's definitely messed up, where he talks about flax. But, the rest seems legit. What are you confused about?
Vegan is a healthy diet or lifestyle and of course good for our animals. But Veganism is also a restricted diet. Furthermore at no stage of human mankind we were vegans, the opposite was the case in average 50-60% was animal food.So fats especially omega 3 like EPA and DHA are low in vegans and needed for children brains (not talking about cardio vascular protection), thus children and babies will be deficient if they fet a vegan diet. Simply check the composition of the baby milk (is that even vegan?) And ALA is not enough. So supplements are essential especial for babies.
I hardly think it's restrictive accept for in the case of a b12 source, and even still everyone can eventually benefit from a supplement or fortified food source due to decreased absorption as we age.
As far as food options, when I wasn't vegan I, like most people I know, I didn't eat a large variety of foods. But, now as a vegan I eat a far more diverse array of foods than ever before. Sure, I don't eat animals or their secretions, but that's it. Within and between each category of beans, greens, grains, fruits, veggies, cruciferous, seeds, nuts, mushrooms, herbs, and spices there are thousands of items and thousands of recipes to enjoy.
As for eating animals and their secretions, imagine trying to chase a wild animal down to milk it 12,000 years ago before we domesticated them. It is my understanding that we thrived off of plant based foods as a main food source for the overwhelming majority of our evolution. The bottom line though is that we live a significantly different, longer life now with incredible options. Our bodies need nutrients that we can get from plants. In our new lifespan and lifestyle we are able to make more evolved choices that are healthier, more sustainable and as a result more ethical.
Yes, a mothers breast milk is vegan because the mother is making milk for her baby and it is therefore a symbiotic and intentional relationship. The baby is by no means exploiting the mother. Really, I shouldn't have to explain that.
I know of several people that were craddle vegans. I just emailed one to ask what she did for her daughter who is a young, brilliant thriving adult now. A mother is a fantastic source of nutrients and can be for up to two years. She can transition her baby to plant based whole foods right away. Omegas are sufficient, especially if they are the only source and are of a balanced ratio of 6 to 3 from my understanding; both of which increase conversion.
It's also worth mentioning that we did a lot of barbaric things throughout our evolution. It's only in recent times that we have become significantly more civilized, innovative and industrious. Now we need to keep moving forward toward a nonviolent culture that is healthy, sustainable, and as ethical as possible to all sentient beings. It's very consistent, what's best for us is best for other animals and the entire planet, really.
Why this guy hates arachidonic acid so much ?
Since it can be synthesized from linoleic acid, that means humans need it, otherwise why would our bodies do it. Thus, if you don`t have it in your diet, your body will make it anyway, lol.
I would assume, it's too easy to get and competes with omega 3. And typically the foods that are highest are processed garbage. We, just like the animals people eat, use it in response to an injury. Think about that and watch this th-cam.com/video/LQRAfJyEsko/w-d-xo.html
Think about arachidonic acid and watch this also th-cam.com/video/8gqwpfEcBjI/w-d-xo.html
@@VeganLinked Can you link me some studies as well ?
@@MACTEP_CHOB In the description there is a link to Dr. Radak's website where there's possibly updates to this and links to perhaps everything mentioned here and more. "For those interested in Omega 3, diet and lifestyle factors influencing brain health, Dr Radak covers this in greater detail here:
radaktim.wixsite.com/website/post/omega-3-diet-and-lifestyle-factors-influencing-brain-health
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