Slay the Spire - Northernlion Plays - Episode 3
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ธ.ค. 2017
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Slay the Spire is a roguelite with deckbuilding mechanics, similar to Darkest Dungeon meets Hearthstone. Let's go!
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About this game:
We fused card games and roguelikes together to make the best single player deckbuilder we could. Craft a unique deck, encounter bizarre creatures, discover relics of immense power, and Slay the Spire! - เกม
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Egg forgetting that poison ignores armor hurts my heart deeply
Did he ever actually learn that?
Me too.
The health bar even shows him that it doesn't care.
Straight up stopped watching at that moment cause I couldn’t take anymore bad plays. He’s got a big heart tho
Angelo Petrillo yeah it's gonna be a while before he actually learns anything as with any game for egg boy
Poison goes through defense
Huecalpixqui Jean III thank god someone said it
Huecalpixqui Jean III with all the games he has played you would think he would assume this cause that's how it usually works
Nah, once i ate a poisoned mushroom, but i had a shield in my hand so it was 'kay.
just saying... if you dont use endless agony when you get it, you get 4 endless agony in next deck rotation.
Pandor25 it’s weird that he didn’t realize the actual use of that card considering how much he talks about compound interest
He has no idea how exhaust actually works.
That card seems like in a heavy card draw deck it could be insane if you're willing to not spend it early on.
Combined with "After Image: Whenever you play a card, gain 1 armor" Endless agony is INSANE.
Invadoge I mean a shiv deck just does it better
It wasn't gold represented in the card in the last run. The huntresses' energy is depicted by a green triangle and the soldier's by a yellow triangle
The Silent has a green triangle, The Ironclad has a gold circle.
Tom Plum Sorry, yes - that.
NL PLS. 23:50 you have a shiv and you can kill the dude.... MY DUDE
analychemist he should’ve actually poison the first (5+4 =9) to death and shiv’d the second to have best result
How is poison which is applied every turn, better used to kill a creep rather than hurt the second creep. I mean wouldnt the shiv for the execute be better and then use the poison on the full health?
I literally screamed at my screen.
I was chanting "Strike. Shiv. Bouncing Flask" at my screen that whole turn
Hey NL, just a tip. Poison damage ignores shields, so even if an enemy has 500 shields and 3 hp, 3 poison will do the job easily
You're looking for triangle numbers. n(n+1)/2.
my man knows
Bart Nikkelen i learned that in third grade
At least 3 other people know math
DAE discrete mathmatics
Borceanu Dani do you watch rick and morty
Bought this game because of you nl. Yesterday I beat the final boss with 1 hp. The games amazing and I’m glad your increasing its publicity. Keep up the good work
You’re
But...did you find the tinted rock?
same, but beat the final boss with 2 hp left, had an interesting run where my energy and cards don't get discarded each turn, and I exhausted everything but heavy hitting attacks so was pretty much a race to not die
Simplified dude Tell me your secrets i Can only get Hald Way trough level 3
Esben Lillie get good
Poison goes through blocks
Not only that, but it loses the block at the end of the turn and poison is applied to the enemy at the start of their turn
NL's logic hurt my head
Watching NL play this gives me actual human anger. BUT I STILL LOOK FORWARD TO WATCHING IT.
For your own good, NEVER watch his KSP series. = )
That pretty much describes every NL solo joint.
actual human anger
Ksp?
If you don’t use endless agony it will be placed into your discard pile and when u cycle through your deck you will draw it again and thus multiplying endless agony
Poké Mon Egg thinks he's good at thinking mans games, but he doesn't think about things long enough and he also blatantly refuses to (watch and) learn, which are necessary to notice such a thing.
23:57 NL, why didn't you just use the shiv that turn? In fact, by that point you've skipped multiple zero drops for no reason. They don't cost energy and can only benefit you, just use them!
PLEASE USE THEM!Pleaaaaase....
Genuinely impressive how wrong he manages to be on just about everything.
That's the appeal, right?
Daddy Slimcock He's going senile
He must have that brain disease that humans get from cats who get it from eating infected rodents. Or mad cow disease. Or just some random horror one often gets when one leaves the country they were raised in.
why did people used to be so damn mean to egg for no reason...
@@cheekybananaboy3361 Right? If only they could go to the future and watch him beat A20 Time Eater without taking a single point of damage.
I would be happy for two of these a day because I love it
Edit: damn this is a lot of likes
theres a 3 hour run of slay the spire on twitch channel if you havent watched it
It's not the same if it's not eggdaddy.
dude thank you
Anything's better than more Isaac and PuBG.
Hey man, it's still NL fucking around with his buds I think it's fun
I love those episodes but they are driving me mad sometimes
Bogo Easy "we have to play defensively with this character" proceeds to gamble half his health to get a relic, NL's logic makes no sense
Sunk cost fallacy my man.
"Should I go for lethal by using 1 strike and 1 poison at 13:30? No, let's rather take 1 damage" - NL, trying to get my goat
"This time I'll attack the already dead enemy (because of poison, which is indicated by the fully green HP bar) with Neutralize and the Shiv." - NL, not understanding the poison mechanic
And then he just stops using 0 cost cards like Neutralize and Shiv against the slimes? Oh boy oh boy
Additive factorials are called triangle numbers. The formula is [n^2+n]/2
Noah Faso-Formoso easier to be shown as n (n+1)/2
Glad to see you liking the game NL! I got a few tips if you're interested so chat/comments doesn't yell at you so much; feel free to take 'em or leave 'em.
- Unless you've got a pro-poison build going (and that usually means more than a single relic), poison isn't super helpful (esp. basic cards like Poisoned Stab or Deadly Poison). As you've sorta noticed already, poison is best when you have a lot of it and can stack it quickly or apply it to many enemies.
- Attacks that hit multiple enemies are better than you think (e.g. Cleave for Ironclad and Dagger Spray for Silent, etc.). There are a lot of situations where there are multiple enemies and even if not, most of those attacks deal more damage than a basic strike anyway.
- Try to keep your deck thin (unless you have a relic that benefits many cards). Since most cards aren't one-time-use, a small deck of great cards is much better than a bulky 30- or 40-card deck with a few good ones but a lot of mediocre ones too. You can remove cards you don't want (usually focus basic Strikes/Defends first) through the merchants and random encounters in ? floors.
- Don't be afraid to take some damage during fights. A lot of enemies get worse as the fight drags on (esp. in the third area), so over-blocking to prevent all damage and consequently not attacking can be detrimental in the long run if you're up against an enemy that gains strength over time or when you use certain skills (*cough*bookofstabbing*cough*).
- If you have a chance to obtain some relic or card or whatever that also gives you a curse, always check your map and gold level, because you can remove curse cards at merchants, so you might be able to remove any negative effect that comes with a powerful item if you're lucky.
Anything else I could say is probably too situational, so I'll leave it at that. Know you probably won't see this, but hopefully some of the newer players you indirectly created can benefit from some of this advice. Thanks again for doing an LP of this series!
Also worth noting that a lot of curses are pretty minor in the grand scheme of things. They can occasionally really suck (I once had two Pains in a Shiv deck which really sucked), but for the most part they're just dead cards with minor negative effects. It depends on the deck, but generally a relic for a curse is an easy trade.
Welp, 5 years later and this information is still helping someone (me) 😅😅 I recently got into this game and have been having a blast. Thanks for the tips!
It's (n * (n+1))/2. So for 4: 4+3+2+1 = 10 = (4 * 5)/2
Gauss it up BOIIIIIIIIIIIS
lol I didn't understand shit
Also, the term for them are "triangle numbers", though I'm always a fan of plustorial :P
Eggscum you play magic. you should know that having less cards in your deck is always better.
Not when you automatically get mediocre cards added to your deck (strike and defend) at the start of your run, in that case the more powerful cards you add the better.
Yes, which is why he should take an opportunity to remove them as quickly as possible, like at the beginning, which is what I was referring to. I'm not saying don't take new cards, I'm saying take options to remove cards os often as possible.
Rhyme Bito You should remove said mediocre cards, that's exactly the point he is trying to make. Btw cubing a cube gives you access to a higher power.
I imagine egg is definitely a tower of power 90 card deck kinda guy. More good cards = better right
Nl the type of egg who brings an automatic card shuffler to FNM to play his T4 modern battle of wits deck
Splay the slire time!
Daniel Negron it'd be cooler if you just said, spay the slire
"Let's play defensively."
"Oh a healing relic we can be a little more risky."
*immediately spends half his health on a single relic*
NL at 13:40 you can deal 6 damage to the second worm, and 4 poison to the first worm and both die. Saves you from taking damage in that fight.
the only thing that hurts more than egg not knowing poison ignores block is knowing he will not be aware of this next episode as well because its all one recording session
Damn I came early
The Northernlion Story
- Poison ticks apply after armor is dropped, so if the enemy has 3 HP and 3 Poison and 10000000 Armor, it still dies.
- In one instance against the 3 louse(lice?) enemies, one of the lice had 4 Armor and 2 HP. Your Strikes does 6 Damage. You could've killed that lice and armor'ed one time. Which would've saved you one damage and killed the other lice when it hit you.
- Energy for both characters are represented differently, so they were both energy.
- Thing about the Blob enemies when they split is if you deal even more damage to them after they get confused, the base health of each blob mirrors the remaining HP. You could've used your 0 cost 3 damage Weaken card to reduce each split blob's max HP by 3 each. This would've made killing the first blob you hit immediate. On a side note regarding that, you could've Shiv'ed the first blob also to kill it afterwards. There was no point in just discarding the Shiv at the time. I would have tried rolling the Poison Flask to see how lucky you were regarding it, and then using your 0 cost Attack cards on the healthier blob afterwards.
- You made some great decisions in the Guardian fight! Choosing to not attack during his defensive stage was a great choice! Some minor misplays of some card usages, but since you heal to full going to the next floor, it was not a big deal! Also, your choice of reward card of After Image and the Specimen relic were great choices!
NL it is energy for both. It just looks different for different characters
Absolutely loving this series
it's actually quite entertaining seeing you make the worst possible decision so many times
Watching this man play strategy games without understanding basic things like how poison works is actually killing me.
Quick tip NL, regarding the decisions at 16:00, poison kills enemies through their armour - so if poison is about to kill a dude (i.e. their health bar is completely green), you don't need to take their armour out for it to work.
Also bring back the Windie awards!
NL's maths skills are top tier
Loved him trying to reinvent Gauss's formula for arithmetic sums.
I love how NL use endless agony as soon as he get it and not let them to stack so he can have more for next draw
Actual new favorite series.
I started played this because of you, NL. This game is awesome, can't wait to see some of the other classes they're going to add. Keep up the series.
Egglord, here's our chance for an all-out attack!
L E T ' S G O C A P T A I N
Ryab just wanted to say, I am happy you decided to start a series on this little gem of a game. It really does seem to have a lot of potential and it's getting better and better the more I watch it. I hope this series survives for a while (:
Watching the incredible amount of misplays that he tries to logic his way through is so hard lol. He is so bad at these kinds of things, but its still entertaining at least :D
WE IN THIS BOIS
Nl, exhauat doesnt remove the card unill u play it. so if a card has exhaust and you dont play it, you dont lose it.
yeah it's weird he's thinking of the "ethereal" mechanic that he doesn't even have unlocked yet
Schobbob ikr, i think the exhaust description even says "once played this card ir removed from the rest of combat", how did egg bung that 1 up
The formula you're looking for for poison is x poison deals (x^2 + x) / 2. It's sort of similar to the formula for area of a right isosceles triangle just with the added factor of x/2 to account for the fact that poison damage is a step function instead of continuous.
Really been enjoying this!
The series of events at 9:22 had me laughing out loud. You completely abandoned the "take no damage" strategy and went nuts haha. That's exactly how I play these games too.
I really enjoy this series.
I love green man. He's so good. You've never felt satisfaction in this game until you've killed a boss monster with 200 HP with a double skill up triple catalyst 60 poison damage tick. I ended up poisoning a boss with 120 poison per turn. It was glorious.
Richxkim Add to that a Corpse Explosion+ just for fun
As a mathematician, I can tell NL that the formula for the sum, or as they call it in Vancouver, sumtorial, is 1/2 * x * (x+1) or (x^2+x)/2
It's amazing how you understand the game better than Egg just by watching. Never played it. Spotted countless mistakes.
Endless agony Stacks.
Straight up Not Killing Enemies for free.
Poison goes through Armor.
That all is made pretty obvious.
Still Really excited to Play this myself Now.
Everytime endless agony is drawn it creates another copy, so if you use just one, the one that you didnt use will be redrawn and give you an addittional. This works well with choke and relics that require you to play multiple cards in one turn. I like going strong on poison, and found that pairing it with high defense works quite well. Youre awesome. Loving this series.
I had an amazing deck/build with the Silent once. It was like every pick up I got meshed with the playstyle, which was surprising _not_ centered around poison, but card draw. Basically I had the relic that gives you Shivs at the start of combat, plus the card that gives you one every turn, the relic that boosts your strength as you play cards, and so I basically just played every card in my hand every turn and kept getting stronger as each battle went on. It was nice. It's the only time I've made it to the 3rd map.
Loving it! Great game, great series!
Holy cow, I love this game
24:00 AAAHHH!!! SO MANY FREE ATTACKS MISSED!
love this series NL!
This game has a lot of potential. Fun to try out different builds and such.
OK time for quick maths. So if you want add up a sequence of numbers let us take 1 through 4. To do this quickly you add up ends 1+4=5 2+3=5 therefor 1+2+3+4=10. For longer sequences let us say 1 through 10 you do more ore less the same 1+10=11 now you cont the number of numbers and divide by 2. 10/2=5. Then you take the end number 11 then take the mid point number 5 and multiply them. 11*5=55 so therefor 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10=55. You can do this easy trick for any sequence no matter the length.
I love it when he's not using the zero energy cards
That gelatinous cube encounter was amazing.
New drinking game, every time Egg forgets to use a 0 cost card at the end of his turn take a drink
The equation you are looking for is n*(n+1)/2, meaning if you do 5 poison, it'll be 5*6/2 which is 15 damage.
It's a neat equation.
16:55 Mr. Greenman returns!
Can we talk about how this character's cards reference Reaper from Overwatch several times? I love that kind of stuff. :D
NL not understanding that he can multyply endless agony by not plaing it is what hurts me the most
NL, Endless agony can be used, get this, ENDLESSLY.....if you keep 1 and let it go back into your deck, so you can draw 2 more when you get it back, or you can get a ton and dupe them by letting both go back into your deck
NL, I believe the math for poison damage is n^2+n/2 where n is the amount of poison damage stacked. Note, this would be the total damage so if you want to calculate it for lets say 3 tuns you will have to subtract the remaining damage which is the same formula for n-->n-3. Or just do it the easy way by adding n+n-1+n-2....
love the series, god bless
bought this game last night cause of NL. have 6 hours played already. this is my life now...and i feel fine with that.
NL YOU EGG! poison ignores armoe
Hello NL, I'd like to pass along the advice that you do not need to worry about poison damage being blocked by armor otherwise it is overkill. The damage done by poison is still direct to the enemy albeit not during your turn. Thanks for the video and I'd love to see you succeed as a fellow Slay the Spire player.
WHAT IS NORTHERNLION LUCK? HE GETS SO MUCH GOOD POISON SYNERGY WITH HIS FREAKING RELICS!
"It was gold, not energy" NL....
NL is really good at making you wanna buy a game, cause you wanna do it better. Was what made me buy Hollow Knight and that was my GOTY for sure.
It's funny when you know you are better in a game than NL even though you dont even own it
The poison number, times the poison number plus 1, divided by 2. 5 poison effect is 15. 20 is 210.
Watching old videos of NL trips me out because his voice doesn't even sound the same
Dope series
Probably someone already wrote it down but, the poison "Addtorial" is a normal sum from 1 to n.
SUM n = n(n+1)/2
For 4 poison, 4*5/2 = 10 total damage
In case you ever read this, Poison ignores armor. Also, poison build isn't the only build, nor is it the strongest.
Hey Eggman, if you have a 0 cost card that does not exhaust, USE IT! For example, at 23:49 you had a shiv that could have killed that slime for free
Really like this game. Please, bring it more frequently.
the "sum factorial" is called a triangular series and has the explicit formula n(n+1)/2.
I'm loving this game and your videos of it!! Just a tip: poison ignores any block, so if enemies have 2 HP and you applied 3 poison on them, they'll die next turn even if they have block.
NL!!! If you keep one Endless Agony you can keep getting them. If you don't use either they grow exponentially! You got me really into this game so thanks for that! lol
super video ! I love this game and the way you play it !
1:00 in: the sum of the first N natural numbers is (N*(N+1))/2, so 4 poison deals 4*5/2 = 10, poison 6 deals 6*7/2 = 21, et c.
NL with the Endless Agony Misplay my GOD
Awesome game, play more of it!
Probably the best change they could make to this game at the present moment would be to make it so that attacks that also apply debuffs don't apply the negative effect if they don't pierce armor. Individual debuffs with no attack included pierce block, but combo attacks don't. Additionally, the difficulty curve from floor 1 to floor 2 with no max health or pure stats upgrades is incredibly difficult, and takes hours of grinding for unlocks, so that should be fixed. Even on floor one, the difficulty gaps between bosses is super large, like Boss Slime vs. the robot thingy that annihilates you in a couple turns. It's like the Haunt vs. Monstro.
Poison is a arithmetic sequence, you can lookup the formulae for it.
Love this series keep it up! Respek
Amazing game. Keep it comming.
formula for triangular numbers ("poison" numbers) is X times (X-1) divided by 2
NL i believe you think exhaust means after it leaves your hand its gone, but it only disapears if you use it. so that agony card you can stack agonies and have a lot of them by just drawing them and not playing them. and you do not have to play backstab your first turn. if you dont play an exhaust card it just gets discarded until you do play it
You actually had me screaming at my screen... Poison ignores armor dude!!!
NL, the algorithm you were looking for for determining Poison damage is N*(N+1)/2
So you were pretty close.
He's no good with this character, isn't he?
he is just bad at the game
@@shocman5743 He's just bad at games in general
He stops rambling about arithmetic at 1:46
That eye is my favourite item in the game.
this game looks really fun
endless agony is one of the best combo cards I have found. If you do not use it, you double it again, and again, and again... bosses get rekt as long as you draw enough cards :D
Lets Goooo!