Being a fast player (skate punk) I use the D-Beat as an energy saver live, it’s basically the same beat as the skate punk beat with less kick variations and easier on the wrist. I learned the skate punk beat first and thought to myself there’s gotta be a less tiring way to play this. I didn’t realize my “lazier” version was a D Beat till later 😆
I listen to a lot of different styles of punk and extreme metal. I know the fastest drummers in the world are death metal/grindcore drummers. But even though the bpms in crust/d-beat are never as high as those metal genres, those bands just don't feel as fast as d-beat bands. I remember the day I bought Tragedy's self-titled album. When the drums kicked in on "The Point of No Return" I was just in awe at how fast it sounded. It's the rhythm of a horse sprinting. I was drummer in my younger days and even though I knew what Paul Burdette was doing, it still sounded so chaotic and organic. I love grind and death metal but there's a machine-like quality to the drumming that keeps it from feeling fast. There's a lack of momentum. Anyway, great vid. Btw: if you get into running, careful listening to d-beat while running. Almost died subconsciously trying to run with the momentum of those songs.
Always felt punk beats have a sort of "tumbling downhill" quality that makes them sound so much more frantic than the standard blast beat. That's why I love all the fast Powerviolence and Metalcore bands playing those punk beats at blast tempos.
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Thank you for including the straight rhythm with the right hand! My band keeps saying “do more d-beat” and I’m trying to figure out how tf I’m not already… I was definitely not going to start having my right hand follow the kick drum like a beginner level player! I’ve never done that and never will!
@@SpaceTimeManipulatorSTM It’s a personal choice how you want to play it I feel. All versions are valid. Some prefer the feel with the hand following the foot whilst others don’t. Play it whichever way you feel comfortable & enjoy the energy you are bringing to the music whilst playing it.
Thanks for such a kind & positive comment.. means a lot!! Have you checked out my other D Beat related vids? Also please subscribe to the channel as I’m going to have more on the subject coming up too.
Ah man this was perfect. I understood most of that on my own already but it's great to have some proper explanations from an actual d-beat specialist. Can't wait for your next video on the more technical stuff, i'm a songwriter first and drummer... fourth, I'm looking forward to see what you have to say on d-beat songwriting.
@@SpikeTSmith Nothing precise comes to mind right now but i'll respond to this comment chain if it does. I'm mostly interested in how to make things more varied and fresh when it's based on such a specific thing as a d-beat, so i'm very interested in hearing from someone who has done that for a few decades.
D beat creates a completely different groove and feel to other punk beats. “Modern” punk beats seem to push the song forward only, whereas d beat creates a tornado of groove that goes back and forth. And what the guitars and bass can do on top of that is simply beautiful.
Super helpful, by ear I was doing the right hand eighth notes and it wasn’t sounding right, doing it the simpler way gives it the necessary feel, cheers xx
For whatever reason, this is a drum beat which I struggle to play and, after all this time, I've realised I'm playing it with quarter notes on the right hand. Going to try the pure beat and get it up to 180bpm. Thanks for such a comprehensive lesson!
From 200+ bpm d-beat is getting very close to sort of a polyrhythm (eighth note triplets with right hand and foot, and eighth notes with left hand). And it also becomes almost an entirety of a "From Enslavement To Obliteration" album :D
Yes.. basically it isn't in the fast tempo what's in the slow tempo... I saw some crusters hating on newbie drummer for not playing it properly.. they didn't know anything about it
I feel like there's a certain feel to the jank of a proper d-beat, and a different feel to a triplet one. I've heard both put to use really well!... but in my opinion it's harder to make intentionally played triplet kicks sound good.
absolutely amazing video right here. pretty much everything on Fuck Peaceville by Doom is my personal fav style. I definitely prefer the choppy/crash cymbals follow the bass drum vibe, gives it so much more punch.
@@SpikeTSmith course l fkn have brother! We're a fukn tribe mate! I'm a gtarist (acc to me lawyer) so, yeah l go off u & the bass player mate. Great channel ya got, glad l stumbled upon it mate.
@@SpikeTSmith now that I have the dbeat down are you able to direct me to a video on the channel that shows me how to go from a fill back into the dbeat seamlessly? Cheers!
as a super newbie drummer that doesn't own their own kit how hard is this to learn? I've wanted to learn it after being to too many bad uk hardcore shows and the redeeming saviours were often a dbeat band who headlined
Just follow the first steps in this video & you should be able to get the beat together. Be mindful to count slowly. If you don’t have access to a kit, play your hands on your legs & stomp the floor ( wood or stone, not carpet so you can hear it) & this should help enough ti get a good understanding of it.
I learnt the d-beat with the quarter note ride cymbal pattern, but I’ll admit the loping style of the “trad” has its charms 😁 Excellent lesson too, Spike...you get to the meat and potatoes (or veggie burger and potatoes for us vegetarians!) with plenty of context and content
@@SpikeTSmith Yes. It was excellent. I loved the D Beat Tutorial also.I played in California with SST Black Flag clique and in SF San Jose Skate Scene with Faction Los Olvidados and The Stiffs.
You got a modern rock or punk or whatever drum patterns book out to buy? Couldn't find one. Because these vids are great. Most of my patterns books are jazz, funk/fusion, reggae, and disco/dance and not much rock stuff.
@@SpikeTSmith My goto is the Jason Gianni and Mick Berry book "Drummer's Bible" if you have no idea what I'm talking about. Anywho, I subbed. If you release a book, you have at least one customer.
Thanks for this super helpful video! It's really fun to revisit it along my drumming journey (1 year so far) and be able to play faster and more of the variations each time. I'm curious why you choose to play the open hi-hat on the 4 (around 6:16ish) with your right hand since it has to travel so far across the kit (vs the left, which is close by on the snare). Thanks!
Hi Livvie, Glad you like the video & I hope it’s helping with your D beat playing. In answer to your question.. I’m actually playing the hi hat on the 4 & the 1 after it too. The reason I bring my hand over is because the flow of the hands doesn’t change, just what I’m hitting. If I tried to do this with my left for “both” hi hat hits, the flow is quite dramatically affected.
I don't own a drum set but I want to air drum d beats to Disfear, All Pigs Must Die, and Black Breath. The independence with the cymbals is so hard right now. Still trying
Fantastic video! I was looking for info on the derivative (I assume, but maybe it actually came first) beat where you play the kick on the 1, 3, and 3& in a more straightforward fashion. Is there a name for this or is it just a generic punk beat?
@Triggerman Yeah it's definitely in a lot of thrash metal and I think got pretty well used in pop punk too. It does have two kicks on the second half but they're not dotted like in a d-beat.
@@BeniRoseMusic Thrash drummers just call it a "punk beat" from what I can tell, and so do grindcore drummers. So yeah It's definitely a separate thing from the d-beat, although a lot of people get it confused as a variant for some reason.
This was really informative! Was the slight hand pattern variation, where the last crash cymbal hit landed on beat 4 (instead of the "and" of 3), a common pattern back in the day? It seems really common these days.
Thank you & glad you found it informative. Re your question. Is there a version in a song you can point out where I can hear this cymbal pattern as I can't say I've heard it, although I understand what you mean placement wise.
@@SpikeTSmith 1min58secs into this live Disfear song called "Phantom". Looks and sounds as though the last crash lands with the snare drum on beat 4: th-cam.com/video/x8gREjpHrHU/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=MarcusAndersson
@@younghunglin Yes, it looks as though the crash is being played on the 4 as you said in this song. I would suggest this is because that’s what the guitar riff is emphasising too. Sounds great aswell but I don’t remember this being a common variation on the pattern back in the day in answer to your question. Of course that doesn’t mean it was “never used” Hope this helps..
@@SpikeTSmith people often refer to the popular heel-toe/slide punk beat (1&2e& 3&4e&) as as a d-beat. It could be a misnomer though. It’s the beat the Nofx’s smelly often uses (although I believe they refer to it as just the punk beat/the smelly when being used simultaneously to his iconic jerky high hat pattern) the two rhythms are very similar and I think you could argue that it’s derivative of the D-beat, it’s application is also very similar. I think the term kind of started to bleed into the broader punk beat catalog where you’ll often hear a back and forth between a D beat and other variations of the bass drum pattern.
@Spike T Smith I prefer to have my drums up close and facing a wall when I record for an album. Is there a certain reason the kit in this video is set up where it is?
Hey man great video , I've been playing for about a year and a half now but I tend to lean forward alot and its making my back hurt, any tips on keeping a good posture while jamming out 🤘
The only one in youtube who plays this right!!! Other drummers play this groove quantized with all the kicks in the "correct" place but it sucks the magic out of the d beat
Hey... Thanks for sharing this. Informative... I am trying It, but I don't get exactly the same sound, which means I am not getting exactly right right now... I will keep practicing... Cheers!
@@SpikeTSmith Heyyy... Thanks for your answer... It seems I get It now, I was misunderstanding the building blocks of the beat... Your video is great. Thanks a lot...
Okay question: is my YT broken or my metronome because counting 4s and thusly 2s and 4s, my metronome shows the first full example in discharge tempo as being around 220 instead of 150?
The true quarter note tempo would be more around the 300bpm mark, but at 150bpm the metronome should land on the 1 and 3 of of the beat emphasising the half note. I hope that helps?
@@SpikeTSmith yes Spike thank you I just had trouble following in my head at current speeds. I forced myself to slow down and very incrementally increasing the tempo. So I could stop thinking and just let my arms and legs do it. Then it clicked in my head and now I am up to 155 and trying to get faster. Thank you very much mate! I love the beat and can't wait to be able to play along with Tragedy and His Hero Is Gone (some training on rolls on the toms needed though haha)
Not in the traditional sense, as the rhythm can quite simply be played on one bass drum. Once you start incorporating the D beat pattern into other rhythms there would be no reason why you couldn’t add some nice double bass drum patterns into the mix.
Ah so _this_ is d-beat! I knew it already just not the name. Good modern example of this beat is in quite a few of the tunes on 'life without pain is a fucking fantasy' by Zombie Apocalypse.
Yeah lol d beat dad vid sux it don't even show anything and real talk i can't even hear the fool what's he saying , i gotta turn up the volume n still too mumblii for my liking . This vid is good .actual teaching
Do you rimshot the snare? I tend to think a center hit snare sounds better, more full While the rimshot "deadens" the snare and make it just more attacky Good options, but I tend to prefer "center shots" without the rim
Would love your opinion on this since you really got that beat down. Some, myself included, believe the d-beat is technically a four against three polyrhythm with the kick going 3/4 triplets against 4/4 from the snare. That‘s why following the kick pattern on the cymbals makes it easier to not drop out of the triplet feel. Sloppily playing the kick on 2and and 3and kinda gets you there somehow but by handling it as a poly it even sounds right if you program it in audio software. Nonsense?
I don’t think that’s what the originators were thinking when they come up with their interpretation of the pattern really, as both John of Buzzcocks & Tezz of Discharge had only been playing a matter of weeks when they both independently of each other came up with their own versions of this pattern. I can’t see how it can be seen as a 3/4 as the bass notes aren’t 3 equal notes apart either. Interesting thought though.
@@SpikeTSmith Thanks for the reply! Sure none of the originators thought of it that way but it‘s fascinating that even some competent technical drummers struggle to get that raw feeling and swing of this beat.
@@bob1benway Yes you’re right. It’s a funny little pattern to play & get the feel correct isn’t it.. Have you seen my other vids in my D Beat series? There’s some more developed ideas going on.
I'm a drummer by necessity. Bass player firstly. I sometimes like to play with others but I don't music lingo. We call the traditional DBEAt the sticky one and the quarter note one the slick. Sticky is the only way to go
My body wont understand the right hand pattern. Would have been nice if you have made an example in like 50bpm or something real slowly to play along and make the muscle memory. For example my right foot is doing a pretty good double stroke on the X-and. But my muscle memory blocks the and-X double stroke.
You can’t understand it on the version I demonstrate at 100bpm? It’s pretty clear.. If you need to slow it down tho, you can do that on you tube. Simply select the video speed & decrease by 0.05. If this doesn’t work for you, feel free to book an online lesson with me. 😉
Glad you found the vid informative. I’m sure there must be guitarist vids out there in relation to your question. I guess you just need to search it out..
This is a particular sore point with me. Many, many guitarists play a "cheat beat" strum along with a D beat, essentially playing every other beat because it's easier. The best method is to strum directly with the kick drum, creating a wall of power. When you've got this down you'll find you can even slightly play ahead or behind the beat also, to give a subtle texture as the song needs it . It's thrilling when everyone is on it, like surfing a huge wave.
Technique displayed here is a d-beat master class. Makes it sound weightless yet the heaviest beat ever.
Thank you.
@@SpikeTSmith Excellent D-Beat Tutorial Master Class. Imagine that with a 26" Bass drum!
The beat of the universe! Always flowing yet chaotic.
Yes Sir!!
The world needs more "Dis" bands. Bones and Kawakami forever !
Discharge, The Varukers, GISM, Disclose, Anti-Cimex, Avskum and Rattus are life. 👊🏻👊🏻
VICTIMS OF A BOMB RAID
Don't forget The Shitlickers.
MORE YES!
Fucking yeah they do !
Listen to No Fucker from NY USA
Being a fast player (skate punk) I use the D-Beat as an energy saver live, it’s basically the same beat as the skate punk beat with less kick variations and easier on the wrist. I learned the skate punk beat first and thought to myself there’s gotta be a less tiring way to play this. I didn’t realize my “lazier” version was a D Beat till later 😆
I listen to a lot of different styles of punk and extreme metal. I know the fastest drummers in the world are death metal/grindcore drummers. But even though the bpms in crust/d-beat are never as high as those metal genres, those bands just don't feel as fast as d-beat bands.
I remember the day I bought Tragedy's self-titled album. When the drums kicked in on "The Point of No Return" I was just in awe at how fast it sounded. It's the rhythm of a horse sprinting. I was drummer in my younger days and even though I knew what Paul Burdette was doing, it still sounded so chaotic and organic.
I love grind and death metal but there's a machine-like quality to the drumming that keeps it from feeling fast. There's a lack of momentum.
Anyway, great vid.
Btw: if you get into running, careful listening to d-beat while running. Almost died subconsciously trying to run with the momentum of those songs.
Glad you enjoyed the video. I do actually run so I’ll be mindful of what you said. 🤣👍
Always felt punk beats have a sort of "tumbling downhill" quality that makes them sound so much more frantic than the standard blast beat. That's why I love all the fast Powerviolence and Metalcore bands playing those punk beats at blast tempos.
He makes it look so simple.
It took me forever but I can finally do it now! Practice really does make perfect ❤️
@@galleryofrogues very true but for some reason I am still having trouble with it
It is simple but great. 180 bpm my favorite
@@reficul1984 How are you getting on with it now?
@@SpikeTSmith not great been taking it slow and got some problems I am dealing with but I am making some progress.
Your passion always motivates a lot of artist and fans all over the world.
Thank you. It’s good to hear it does.
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Best explanation so far i've been able find on youtube about this iconic beat, fuck i love fundamentals.
Thank you. Glad it’s a clear explanation for you. Have you subscribed to my channel & seen my other D beat vids? If not you should check them out.
Thanks for counting it out, Spike. Very helpful. Great explanation, demo and presentation. And your drums sound good!
Glad you found it useful.
Thank you, really helpful even if I play only on drum machine. Discharge and GBH are my favs since then
Thank you for including the straight rhythm with the right hand! My band keeps saying “do more d-beat” and I’m trying to figure out how tf I’m not already… I was definitely not going to start having my right hand follow the kick drum like a beginner level player! I’ve never done that and never will!
@@SpaceTimeManipulatorSTM It’s a personal choice how you want to play it I feel. All versions are valid. Some prefer the feel with the hand following the foot whilst others don’t. Play it whichever way you feel comfortable & enjoy the energy you are bringing to the music whilst playing it.
The best video about d-beat drumming that I have seen. Thanks!
Thanks for such a kind & positive comment.. means a lot!! Have you checked out my other D Beat related vids? Also please subscribe to the channel as I’m going to have more on the subject coming up too.
@@SpikeTSmith I sure did! Great content!
Ah man this was perfect. I understood most of that on my own already but it's great to have some proper explanations from an actual d-beat specialist.
Can't wait for your next video on the more technical stuff, i'm a songwriter first and drummer... fourth, I'm looking forward to see what you have to say on d-beat songwriting.
Cool you found it of some use Jay. I'd be interested to know if you have any questions on D Beat songwriting??
@@SpikeTSmith Nothing precise comes to mind right now but i'll respond to this comment chain if it does.
I'm mostly interested in how to make things more varied and fresh when it's based on such a specific thing as a d-beat, so i'm very interested in hearing from someone who has done that for a few decades.
@@jaypoison I hope I can offer some new ideas & insight in the next video or two then.
Cheers! Trying to this drummer I'm currently working with to play Dbeat.
D beat creates a completely different groove and feel to other punk beats. “Modern” punk beats seem to push the song forward only, whereas d beat creates a tornado of groove that goes back and forth. And what the guitars and bass can do on top of that is simply beautiful.
Well said man
I love the way you say discharge lol. Dischurch. Thanks for the lesson. Gonna pick up drumming again soon
The ride bell included sounds so good
It’s a nice cymbal.
Super helpful, by ear I was doing the right hand eighth notes and it wasn’t sounding right, doing it the simpler way gives it the necessary feel, cheers xx
Glad it was useful for you. Have you checked out my other vids in my D beat series?
For whatever reason, this is a drum beat which I struggle to play and, after all this time, I've realised I'm playing it with quarter notes on the right hand.
Going to try the pure beat and get it up to 180bpm. Thanks for such a comprehensive lesson!
I’m glad it’s been of some use for you. I’ll be interested to know how you get on with your quest to get it up to 180bpm. Keep me posted..😉
From 200+ bpm d-beat is getting very close to sort of a polyrhythm (eighth note triplets with right hand and foot, and eighth notes with left hand). And it also becomes almost an entirety of a "From Enslavement To Obliteration" album :D
That was a great , will try to follow this one as well for improving my dbeat drumming
I hope it helps you. Any questions.. feel free to ask.
Killer D-Beat Drumming guide! Thanks a lot!
Thank you. Glad you found it informative.
@@SpikeTSmith 🤝😎
its interesting how the bass drum pattern almost turns into a triplet at higher speeds
Yes.. basically it isn't in the fast tempo what's in the slow tempo... I saw some crusters hating on newbie drummer for not playing it properly.. they didn't know anything about it
I'm always thinking the same shit. I thought it was triplet for a while but its just close.
I like it better in triplets
I feel like there's a certain feel to the jank of a proper d-beat, and a different feel to a triplet one.
I've heard both put to use really well!... but in my opinion it's harder to make intentionally played triplet kicks sound good.
absolutely amazing video right here. pretty much everything on Fuck Peaceville by Doom is my personal fav style. I definitely prefer the choppy/crash cymbals follow the bass drum vibe, gives it so much more punch.
Glad you enjoyed the video & thanks for commenting too.
Spike, you nailed it again. Excellent.
Thanks Patrick. Got to think about getting the next one done now..
Awesome lesson ! Finally, someone who broke it down for slow learners like me. 😂 Greatly appreciated!
Glad it was of use to you.
Just come across ya channel Spike.
Brilliant man!
I know how hard it is to record drums well, gd job mate.
Thank you. Hope you’ve subscribed?
@@SpikeTSmith course l fkn have brother! We're a fukn tribe mate!
I'm a gtarist (acc to me lawyer) so, yeah l go off u & the bass player mate.
Great channel ya got, glad l stumbled upon it mate.
@@baabaabaa2293 Thank you man!!
Please bring this channel back. A real punk rocker, master drummer, gentleman and scholar.
@@Greg-xi8yx Thank you. This channel is still active, I put a video up a couple of weeks back. 😉
@@SpikeTSmith now that I have the dbeat down are you able to direct me to a video on the channel that shows me how to go from a fill back into the dbeat seamlessly? Cheers!
@@Greg-xi8yx I don’t I’m afraid..
Best vid about d-beat and variations so far!
Thank you. I really appreciate your comment. Shows I’m on the right track. Have you seen my others in the D beat series?
@@SpikeTSmith not yet but i’ll check that!
@@laurent59mx5 let me know what you think?
Love this Spike ... cheers Bud (Gav R.)
awesome...great drumming,,,,GBH too!
Yep.. can’t forget GBH.
You are a d-beat monster my friend!!!!
🤣 Thank you!!
Love the lesson! Love the hair just as much haha!!! Rock on!!!!!!
Haha!! Nice one. Glad you enjoyed it.
Cant wait for this
Let me know what you think once you've seen it?
Awesome, master class, Thank you 🙏
Glad you enjoyed it. Thank you.
When u gave that example with the floor tom that reminded so much of a song by the exploited ahah
well.. there ya go Jake.. got it in there for you!! haha.
I always played it, with straight 1/4 on my ride hand. But, will try to learn it with my ride hand following the kick. That's for the video.
Playing it with a 1/4 note ride hand is cool. Depends how authentic you want it to the original D-beat I suppose…
Thanks Spike, keep it up 👍
Excellent, and perfectly explained Spike. 👏🏻😃🥁🔥🎶
I was thinking of you seconds before I saw this comment Brian. Thanks for checking it out.
Master class ' love the cymbal motion
Ripped u off so much mate 😂
Great feel
Thank you mate. Glad you enjoyed it.. Rip away my friend.
@@SpikeTSmith thanks pal ' legend 👍
Thanks for this man!!!!
Thanks for watching!!
@@SpikeTSmith I will make a video talking about you on mu channels in the next weeks in Italian, thanks for this!!!
@@Raphaeldrums cool. Please send me link when you do.
as a super newbie drummer that doesn't own their own kit how hard is this to learn? I've wanted to learn it after being to too many bad uk hardcore shows and the redeeming saviours were often a dbeat band who headlined
Just follow the first steps in this video & you should be able to get the beat together. Be mindful to count slowly. If you don’t have access to a kit, play your hands on your legs & stomp the floor ( wood or stone, not carpet so you can hear it) & this should help enough ti get a good understanding of it.
Excellent video Spike! Looking forward to our lesson tomorrow!
Cheers Mark. We can do a bit of advanced D-beat in the lesson!!
I learnt the d-beat with the quarter note ride cymbal pattern, but I’ll admit the loping style of the “trad” has its charms 😁
Excellent lesson too, Spike...you get to the meat and potatoes (or veggie burger and potatoes for us vegetarians!) with plenty of context and content
Thanks for your kind words & I’m really glad you found the video useful too.
Tez started it and Gary Malone made it HUGE! Discharge are #1. JJ rules! Cal is Classic!
Have you seen my interview with Tezz?
@@SpikeTSmith Yes. It was excellent. I loved the D Beat Tutorial also.I played in California with SST Black Flag clique and in SF San Jose Skate Scene with Faction Los Olvidados and The Stiffs.
@@TimGoodman That’s cool. Have a look at my linear d beat & odd times d beat sometime. They might be of interest to you..
You got a modern rock or punk or whatever drum patterns book out to buy? Couldn't find one. Because these vids are great. Most of my patterns books are jazz, funk/fusion, reggae, and disco/dance and not much rock stuff.
Glad you enjoyed the vids & are finding them useful.
I don’t have a book out.. maybe it’s something I should do?
@@SpikeTSmith My goto is the Jason Gianni and Mick Berry book "Drummer's Bible" if you have no idea what I'm talking about. Anywho, I subbed. If you release a book, you have at least one customer.
Thanks for this super helpful video! It's really fun to revisit it along my drumming journey (1 year so far) and be able to play faster and more of the variations each time. I'm curious why you choose to play the open hi-hat on the 4 (around 6:16ish) with your right hand since it has to travel so far across the kit (vs the left, which is close by on the snare). Thanks!
Hi Livvie,
Glad you like the video & I hope it’s helping with your D beat playing.
In answer to your question.. I’m actually playing the hi hat on the 4 & the 1 after it too. The reason I bring my hand over is because the flow of the hands doesn’t change, just what I’m hitting. If I tried to do this with my left for “both” hi hat hits, the flow is quite dramatically affected.
Thanks for your reply, @@SpikeTSmith! Makes sense. I thought you were just closing the hi-hat on 1 (no hit). I'll have to take another look.
@@livvie50321 No, the hi hat is another open hit on the 1 aswell. If you slow the video down you will see & hear more clearly. 👍
@@SpikeTSmith Will do. Thanks for being so responsive. Much appreciated!
@@livvie50321 👍
I wish I had this video when I was a kid
Thank you. I guess that’s why I did it. Same reason..
Nice video man! Great to see that right foot in the video.
Great video! Cheers!
Thank you. Have you checked out my other D Beat vids?
@@SpikeTSmith yes! Particularly liked the one where you played in 5/4
@@Xur______ Thats very cool you liked that one. Thanks for checking them out.
Well done. ✌🏼
You're an awesome drummer.
Thank you. 🙏
@@SpikeTSmith thank you for taking the time to create and share this with the world.
@@z.s.n. I felt it needed to be shared. Have you seen my other videos in my D beat series?
Great technique and love the groove
I don't own a drum set but I want to air drum d beats to Disfear, All Pigs Must Die, and Black Breath. The independence with the cymbals is so hard right now. Still trying
Fantastic video! I was looking for info on the derivative (I assume, but maybe it actually came first) beat where you play the kick on the 1, 3, and 3& in a more straightforward fashion. Is there a name for this or is it just a generic punk beat?
Thanks for checking the video out & I’m glad you liked it. As far as I know, the beat you refer to doesn’t have a specific name like the D Beat.
@Triggerman Yeah it's definitely in a lot of thrash metal and I think got pretty well used in pop punk too. It does have two kicks on the second half but they're not dotted like in a d-beat.
@Triggerman That's still a d-beat as far as I can tell, but I appreciate you trying to find it!
@Triggerman lots of pop punk from the late 90s and early 2000s. I’ll try to find a song.
@@BeniRoseMusic Thrash drummers just call it a "punk beat" from what I can tell, and so do grindcore drummers. So yeah
It's definitely a separate thing from the d-beat, although a lot of people get it confused as a variant for some reason.
Great video, thank you very much, looking forward for the next one!
Cool. Have you checked out the previous one?
@@SpikeTSmith yes i have, I discovered your channel through Discharge's Facebook page, just subscribed!
@@achillesmihail515 great stuff.
Thank you very much!
I hope you enjoyed it.
@@SpikeTSmith yes sir!!
Cool video
This was really informative!
Was the slight hand pattern variation, where the last crash cymbal hit landed on beat 4 (instead of the "and" of 3), a common pattern back in the day? It seems really common these days.
Thank you & glad you found it informative.
Re your question. Is there a version in a song you can point out where I can hear this cymbal pattern as I can't say I've heard it, although I understand what you mean placement wise.
@@SpikeTSmith 1min58secs into this live Disfear song called "Phantom". Looks and sounds as though the last crash lands with the snare drum on beat 4:
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@@younghunglin Yes, it looks as though the crash is being played on the 4 as you said in this song. I would suggest this is because that’s what the guitar riff is emphasising too. Sounds great aswell but I don’t remember this being a common variation on the pattern back in the day in answer to your question. Of course that doesn’t mean it was “never used”
Hope this helps..
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Very nice thank you
Glad you liked it.
There’s a few variations on this beat, I like this one, its different than a lot of people play it
Which variation are you referring to?
@@SpikeTSmith people often refer to the popular heel-toe/slide punk beat (1&2e& 3&4e&) as as a d-beat. It could be a misnomer though. It’s the beat the Nofx’s smelly often uses (although I believe they refer to it as just the punk beat/the smelly when being used simultaneously to his iconic jerky high hat pattern) the two rhythms are very similar and I think you could argue that it’s derivative of the D-beat, it’s application is also very similar. I think the term kind of started to bleed into the broader punk beat catalog where you’ll often hear a back and forth between a D beat and other variations of the bass drum pattern.
awesome tutorial, thanks heaps!!!...btw I play with Common Enemy from Australia
Glad you found it useful. Have you checked out my other D beat videos that are on my channel?
good songs, what is the one that plays at the beginning and at the end of the video? greetings and rock and roll!!
The first is War’s no fairytale. The last is Tomorrow belongs to us.
2:02 "sitting on an angry chairrr...."
Thank you! I agree with you all the way. :)
Thank you. Have you checked out my other videos in my D Beat series?
@@SpikeTSmithI am going to take time and look properly this weekend.
@@petergallman1279 Cool. Let me know what you think?
If you want a full of dbeat band try a greek band named bandaloup. I would love a foreigner to try greek punk!
Much love for Greek punk crust and d-beat, cheers!
The best beat ever
It’s a good one!!
3:58 i love this beat
Thank you.
@Spike T Smith I prefer to have my drums up close and facing a wall when I record for an album. Is there a certain reason the kit in this video is set up where it is?
The only reason is limited space.
Hey man great video , I've been playing for about a year and a half now but I tend to lean forward alot and its making my back hurt, any tips on keeping a good posture while jamming out 🤘
Check your seat height & let me know how you are sitting?
@@SpikeTSmith my seat height is just level where my snare is like my legs are right on sides of my snare
@@bludbathh810 I wonder if you are sat too high perhaps?
@@SpikeTSmith could be a possibility mate
@@bludbathh810 Try a few different heights & let me know how you get on?
Why am I just discovering this beat I've known about all other patterns.
The only one in youtube who plays this right!!!
Other drummers play this groove quantized with all the kicks in the "correct" place but it sucks the magic out of the d beat
Thank you & yes, no quantising here.
Hey... Thanks for sharing this. Informative... I am trying It, but I don't get exactly the same sound, which means I am not getting exactly right right now... I will keep practicing... Cheers!
You can always book an online lesson with me if you need help?
@@SpikeTSmith Heyyy... Thanks for your answer... It seems I get It now, I was misunderstanding the building blocks of the beat... Your video is great. Thanks a lot...
@@sciexp Glad it was helpful for you.
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Okay question: is my YT broken or my metronome because counting 4s and thusly 2s and 4s, my metronome shows the first full example in discharge tempo as being around 220 instead of 150?
The true quarter note tempo would be more around the 300bpm mark, but at 150bpm the metronome should land on the 1 and 3 of of the beat emphasising the half note. I hope that helps?
@@SpikeTSmith yes Spike thank you I just had trouble following in my head at current speeds. I forced myself to slow down and very incrementally increasing the tempo. So I could stop thinking and just let my arms and legs do it. Then it clicked in my head and now I am up to 155 and trying to get faster. Thank you very much mate! I love the beat and can't wait to be able to play along with Tragedy and His Hero Is Gone (some training on rolls on the toms needed though haha)
Is there any double bass drum d-beat?
Not in the traditional sense, as the rhythm can quite simply be played on one bass drum.
Once you start incorporating the D beat pattern into other rhythms there would be no reason why you couldn’t add some nice double bass drum patterns into the mix.
Don’t even play drums but I keep watching this video a few times every year 😂
That’s great you enjoy it.
Ah so _this_ is d-beat! I knew it already just not the name.
Good modern example of this beat is in quite a few of the tunes on 'life without pain is a fucking fantasy' by Zombie Apocalypse.
Much better explanation than D-Beat Dad one.
I want to play D-Beat so badly now
Glad you found it informative.
Give it a go & let me know how you get on?
Yeah lol d beat dad vid sux it don't even show anything and real talk i can't even hear the fool what's he saying , i gotta turn up the volume n still too mumblii for my liking . This vid is good .actual teaching
@@-JeffreyDahmer-wow brutal criticism lol
Do you rimshot the snare?
I tend to think a center hit snare sounds better, more full
While the rimshot "deadens" the snare and make it just more attacky
Good options, but I tend to prefer "center shots" without the rim
Hi Cederick.
No I’m not rimshoting the snare drum in this video. If I was, my snare drum stick would stay down a fraction longer.
@@SpikeTSmith Awesome. I just started "center hitting" lately after many years of rimshotting and the fuller sound is really amazing on recordings!
Yeeeeaaah! thank you man!
Cool photo from Wardance,rip Andy....
Well spotted Ed.
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Would love your opinion on this since you really got that beat down. Some, myself included, believe the d-beat is technically a four against three polyrhythm with the kick going 3/4 triplets against 4/4 from the snare. That‘s why following the kick pattern on the cymbals makes it easier to not drop out of the triplet feel. Sloppily playing the kick on 2and and 3and kinda gets you there somehow but by handling it as a poly it even sounds right if you program it in audio software. Nonsense?
I don’t think that’s what the originators were thinking when they come up with their interpretation of the pattern really, as both John of Buzzcocks & Tezz of Discharge had only been playing a matter of weeks when they both independently of each other came up with their own versions of this pattern. I can’t see how it can be seen as a 3/4 as the bass notes aren’t 3 equal notes apart either. Interesting thought though.
@@SpikeTSmith Thanks for the reply! Sure none of the originators thought of it that way but it‘s fascinating that even some competent technical drummers struggle to get that raw feeling and swing of this beat.
@@bob1benway Yes you’re right. It’s a funny little pattern to play & get the feel correct isn’t it..
Have you seen my other vids in my D Beat series? There’s some more developed ideas going on.
@@SpikeTSmith I love your D-Beat science!
@@bob1benway 😆 Thank you.
Dave Lombardo 200bpm
Master
Thank you.. Too kind.
Punks not dead!!!
@@Drumsholic Definitely not!!
My favorite way of doing this beat is steady notes on right hand
That’s cool. There’s so many interpretations, but as long as the bass drum & snare are correct all is good isn’t it..
@@SpikeTSmith exactly, so many variations you can come up with and theres nothin like it. My neighbors love fast punk beats
@@Richlucch Have you seen my other D beat vids? Linear & odd time signatures?
@@SpikeTSmith i actually havnt yet, just found your channel yesterday ill check it out tho
@@Richlucch Have a look & let me know what you think?
I'm working on a Celtic Punk metal band and as the drummer I wanna get D-Beat right and add a Irish/ Celtic favour like a Baudhrán
I'm a drummer by necessity. Bass player firstly. I sometimes like to play with others but I don't music lingo. We call the traditional DBEAt the sticky one and the quarter note one the slick.
Sticky is the only way to go
Whatever tickles your fancy..I like the different take on terminology. 😉
My body wont understand the right hand pattern. Would have been nice if you have made an example in like 50bpm or something real slowly to play along and make the muscle memory. For example my right foot is doing a pretty good double stroke on the X-and. But my muscle memory blocks the and-X double stroke.
You can’t understand it on the version I demonstrate at 100bpm? It’s pretty clear.. If you need to slow it down tho, you can do that on you tube. Simply select the video speed & decrease by 0.05.
If this doesn’t work for you, feel free to book an online lesson with me. 😉
I like the way he said “DisChAge”
2:05 That's Angry Chair by Alice in Chains
Almost!!
I wanna hear this guys bands
Check out some of my other TH-cam videos on my channel (which this video is on already) or my website which is www.spiketsmith.com
is it possible to do the bass drum non stop? I wonder how it would sound has anyone ever done this?
Well if you did that, it wouldn’t be a D-beat!?!
thanksss
No problem. Hope it was useful for you.
Great video, very informative! It would be great to have such a tutorial on "How to play guitar on D-Beat". Any ideas?
Glad you found the vid informative. I’m sure there must be guitarist vids out there in relation to your question. I guess you just need to search it out..
This is a particular sore point with me. Many, many guitarists play a "cheat beat" strum along with a D beat, essentially playing every other beat because it's easier. The best method is to strum directly with the kick drum, creating a wall of power. When you've got this down you'll find you can even slightly play ahead or behind the beat also, to give a subtle texture as the song needs it . It's thrilling when everyone is on it, like surfing a huge wave.
180 bpm with open hihat 😁 packs the most power
It’s all a personal preference to what suits your band best.