Yeah the dude can literally say he wins and he does. The only reason he didn't beat kenpachi was because of zero fight experience on his behalf. Give his shrift to say somebody like Askin and bodies wouldn't even exist cause he'd look at somebody and say disappear and they would
Gremmy: i am the brain of the Soul King Gerard: i am the heart of the Soul King Pernida: I am the hand of the Soul King Ichibei: i am the king's royal guard Lilie: I am intangible. Ichigo: I have the power to become the Soul King himself so your powers are irrelevant.
Fake Gremmy is not the King's brain. That's just some nonsense the fandom made up. Neither in the manga nor in the later novels is anything mentioned about him with that statement.
They wanted to make Ichigo "the king". What people don't understand is that being "the king" It does not mean being on the same level as the spiritual king. If not be strong enough to be left being a life support of all the worlds.
I might agree with Urahara as he is Bleach’s equivalent to Batman in that regard. Mayuri im pretty sure still gets overpowered, but he kinda carried victory after victory in every fight he was in, especially in TYBW, Mayuri with prep is also terrifying.
@@ononthecreator He Developed A Technique To Regain Soul Reapers Bankai From Sternritters It Wasn't Maguri Who Did This... Read Comic If Urahara Wasn't There They Were Over In The Second Battle Too 🤣
@@ShudowEdits_ Soul society would have failed against aizen if there was no Mayuri. Lol He made the fkt and the extra portal from hm to fkt for ichigo. And in tybw. He revived some caps, and also the arrancars which helped a great deal in war. Dezombified people and stopped The crazy Giselle. Defeated a schutzstaffel. Oh and not just helping people he has just overall bigger feats. Like creating his organs and fitting them in body in few mins, developing potions to recreate cut limbs , all crazy drugs and poisons and oh creating a Captain level shinigami in lab..
People tend to forget that in the bleach universe, spiritual pressure is a thing and ichigo has so much of it that is visible, I remember the time Aizen nullified Soi Fon ability bc of his Spiritual Pressure
where was that plot armor against Askin? Ichigo is powerful but a lot oof their hax are just far greater than his. He's 1 of the most powerful people in Bleach but would lost to a decent amount of people because of hax abilities alone. I don't mean weaker people obviously, i mean most top tiers with hax abilities.
@@lou98tif not for plot armor ichigo should’ve been clapped by almost all of his opponents cuz ichigo is a one trick pony and if the story didn’t constantly tell you that ichigo was getting stronger then you wouldn’t have been able to notice cuz most of ichigo’s “forms” are just him withe a new look and a bigger power level spamming the same old attack.
@@lou98t and it’s even worse when you consider that ichigo’s full bring powers are his original soul reaper and Quincey/ hollow powers witch makes you wonder the that the hell is ichigo’s soul reaper powers in the first place cuz it can’t be the getsuga cuz udahada tought him that meaning it’s not some secret or special ability only exclusive to ichigo it it was already known by some who wasn’t ichigo or zangetsu and it gets even more bizarre cut calls into question exactly that the hell is ichigo’s full bring as well.
@@user-xj5ct6ub6nso you mean that he needs biq for his techniques biggest flaw which is he can’t imagine himself losing or he loses which is what happend against kenpachi
@@burhan8728 the first problem was he didn't think of a body enhancement to contain power greater than zaraki. Second was him fighting head on instead of killing zaraki like how he killed rose and kensei. Third is him underestimating his opponent. Lastly, he could have imagined himself getting miraculously healed from the backlash, he could have imagined time stopping for zaraki. There were infinite possibilities of winning tbh🤷🏻♂️
nah .... they are like ironman...their INT points are maxed out...they just win with their brains AIZEN is like The Cautious hero that maxed every stat possible
Against Gerard, if he needed to, he could use the final getsuga and just get rin of him entirely as it's steated to be the most powerful attack in the series.
@@Cvehffa Yhwach gave him his schrifft. He could always just take it away and I don’t know if you know this but Gremmy is brain of the soul king like how Gerard, Pernida and Mimihagi were the hands and heart of the soul king
@@polartang250 I agree with with yhwach part but he still solos it's all about IQ and if he had Kisuke's IQ he would just imagine yhwach with no powers or something even worse but yeah Gremmy isn't smart so Yhwach negs
I wish we got a proper explanation for Ichigo’s bankai because honestly as of rn it is just a big sword, but it’s also supposed to be dangerous enough to kill soul king Yhwach meaning that technically, with heavy assumption, it should have some kind of hack negation ability or idk just something to overpower even the countless hacks that Yhwach had. That said, if Ichigo decided to train and master all of his abilities, no one would stand a chance
@@papanotdaddy1012 Yeah but he doesn’t specify. Kubo could have meant simply mastering Zangetsu and the balance between his powers, but I mean if Ichigo truly exploited his potential, he’d have no match. By that I mean learning proper kido, Cero, bala, cero oscuras, hierro, blut vene, reishi manipulation at a decent level. If Ichigo masters all of those, then he’d be unmatched
@@elcalabozodelandroide2 Everybody felt Yhwach’s reiatsu when he absorbed the soul king and I think we both know that he’s has more reiatsu than Dangai Ichigo and Hogyoku Aizen
Ichigo's true bankai is already in the manga when he fought Yhwach. For Aizen, I am not sure. Because he is already a god on using kido (he also have high amount of reiatsu). Even if he does have bankai, that shit is gonna destroy ichigo (probably).
@@3RF4N Yhwach must not make any error moves when he's fighting against HoS True Bankai Ichigo while he enjoys his fight calmly when he's fighting against Aizen. This statement is enough to know who's stronger. Oh and the seal only restrict his reiatsu range not power so don't include and made up some bs with that as excuses we know you all wankers very well. 😉 I love Bleach and a huge Aizen fan even i can tell Ichigo is stronger.
Gerard isn't actually immortal. He has a "core" that if destroyed, so is he. This was stated by Kubo. It likely will be revised in the Anime like other fights.
This is something really cool about Bleach, the powers are created in such a way that you can see and feel the potential on each one. For example, Izuru Kira, the liutenant of the 3rd squad, his shikai is so simple yet so strong, after activating his shikai, Wabisuke, his sword becames like a Hook, but with two 90 degree angles, having a Blade in the inner side, with the special ability to double the weight of everything it touches, and its acumulative, so basically after hitting your sword 3 times ir becames 8 times heavier. Tell me that couldn't be really overpowered
i feel like the visionary is kind of a complicated thing to use you can't really control what becomes real when you imagine things like you can think "whoa i can really go for anime thighs" and it'll pop up or you can think "oh my god my mom is gonna kill me because i failed the test" and you'll die
Are people gonna ignore the fact that Ichigo has a broken asf bankai that freaked the shit out of Yhwach. Dude literally had his true bankai broken by yhwach just because the future showed him what kind of a monster true ichigo versions really are.
Tf is barragan going to do to a ichigo that even yhwach was afraid off? Barragan got clapped by pre TYBW arc characters let alone 1 of the weakest captains n Yama got clapped by yhwach lol
@@chiefbeef3587 because he is the left hand of the soul king. He is also pseudo immortal. It literally one shot Kenpachi with ease. If it wasn't for Nemu's DNA Mayuri would've been screwed.
Yeah, im just bored with the imbalance of mainstream anime where they just focus to make the MC is become the strongest and make all of the cool side character just become a loser
It’s so funny that Gremmy was literally given the strongest power ever in not just Bleach but the entirety of anime in general but Kubo intentionally made him fkin stupid to balance him EDIT: you nerds in the comments getting mad over nothing
@@micah459 he doesn't have to be. His shrift is literally the ability to make whatever he wants a reality. He could imagine you dead and you would die. All he has to do is imagine it and it happens. No omnipotence needed
@Frozen Monster could be. only reason hr died was cuz he imagined to have kenpachi's power but his body couldn't handle it. if he imagined first to have strong body he wouldn't die and would beat the crap out kenpachi. kenpachi only survived gremmy cuz gremmy wanted to fight. not just kill. if he wanted to just finish kenpachi off he would just imagine him dead and kenpachi would die.
Uryu if that guy knew how to use antithesis properly. I mean he can just exchange the state of a broken rock lying nearby with ichigo and kill him in seconds
Mayuri is focused on efficiency rather than the strength of their bankai/zanpakuto. Even when maryuri's bankai was destroyed he just said "i could always make one"
Ichigo in True Bankai has fate manipulation as said by Yhwach and even he was scared of Ichigos True Bankai. He prob negs all of em besides a smart Gremmy, just like how Yhwach did/would've. Prep time doesn't help you if you just change the future in which everyone of those plans fail. Also forgot Gerard and Aizen, they are immortal, so Ichigo may beat them but won't be able to kill them
I don't remember that being stated anywhere at all, source? Because from what I recall all Yhwach said was Ichigo has a powerful bankai and he broke it before it could be used in the story. We don't see its potential at all.
@@Redhollow To some extent Ichigo can resist fate due to Yhwach literally being able to choose which future he wants to go to and him finding Ichigo to be a threat is evidence of this.
@@tamashi5066 That doesn't necessarily follow. Yhwach more likely feared him because at full power, there would be *no future* in which Yhwach can win. The Almighty cannot make the impossible possible, if there is no possibility of something happening, he can't do it, hence why the Almighty could not be used to kill Aizen.
@@Mr.Monacle ichigo does have minor fate manip just that it's tied to himself and not his actual zanpakuto ability. What we do know of his ability is that it's ridiculous enough to have yhwach take no chances against it, he also resisted the almighty 2nd time round showing he's got some form of adaptive resistance or else his sword would've been snapped in twine like last time.
Well he is dangerous but ichigo with his quincy and hollow regeneration powers should be able to handle it with his bankei Didnt read the manga in a long time tough
@@loligerpoper5998 literally none of those things would save Ichigo dude. Askin isn't deteriorating anything, no 'healing factor' stops his ability. In fact Askin is probably the most durable character we've seen in this series, lol. Bro had his heart ripped out and crushed and he was STILL talkin' smack lol.
@@loligerpoper5998 Askin could have literally slit Ichigo and Grimmjow's throat right there and ended the series, if it wasn't for his "that's not my type of style" shit. Also if it wasn't for Nel, Kisuke Urahara and Yoruichi Shihoin would be dead. That's what kind of threat Askin is, the Deathdealing indeed.
@@loligerpoper5998 That time, Ichigo and Grimmjow weren't just sleep. They were knocked out because they are DYING from Askin's poison. They're not gonna be cable of doing powerups or defense when they're knocked out, weak, and dying.
@@xaxally didn't askin attack ichigo whilst he had his guard down coz they were about to engage shunsui uses bankai ichigo gets distracted by it and then we come back to ichigo being downed. Remember askin in vollstandig gets blitzd and tagged by bankai kisuke on multiple occasions so unless you're saying kisuke is faster than ichigo askin doesn't really stand much of a chance.
can't say anything since we haven't see the ultimate bankai Ichigo power. even yhwach (howeverthefukitisspelled) need to use soul king hack to beat bankai ichigo
@@mr.dragonstar2387In shikai ichigo was shown to be able to speedblitz bambi's and his bankai increases his physical stats by a lot and we have like not seen a single speed feat from gremmy because he likes to just stand and stay still so yeah ichigo speedblitzes him so hard
Gremmy wasn't even stupid, Zaraki simply tanked everything until Gremmy simply WASN'T ABLE to imagine him dying to anything. And it all started with Zaraki saying "have some imagination!"
@@marshmellow9855 well the fight with Kenpachi shows that his imagination has its limits. Not to mention you have to be extremely egotistical to effectively use the Visionary (even though it’s not really a schrift).
Btw I hope that u are aware that ichigo is barely scratching his potential even at the end of tybw. Heck His bankai isn't even revealed yet . I think this video is unneeded
Gremmy isn’t stupid. He just never experienced the world cause he was sealed in a room so his imagination is stagnant.can you imagine something you’ve never seen ? No right ? Its the same for him the little he knows makes him that powerful. Now imagine if the guy lived normally like the other sternritter,he’d be pretty much unstoppable for most if not everyone on the verse. He’s basically a child that looks like a teen/young adult.
yeap that why he didn't do that😂 i mean he has so broken ability that if his iq and exp was anywhere near aizen's he would just end the show way too early😂 and we wouldn't have pretty sad ending with dead main character and his whole squad😂 author avoided that for sure😂😂😂
Sad thing is that we never actually got to see his Bankai Pre-Broken zanpakto. But we got to see his true?, True Bankai I don't know what the hell went on there
YHWACH would have won but he couldn't control all of the Soul king's power that was his problem. Of course the Soul King has everyone's abilities! Plus YHWACH isn't dead he comes back every 900 years a new one is always born!
@@kronasmotivationaldrink8342 bro he does. He can one shot him. It’s really that easy. Askin’s ability only works if he can at least survive one attack. Ichigo is more than fast and strong enough to kill him in one attack.
@@edmund1737 Ichigo ain't all powerful, his battle kit is mad basic: Getsuga Tensho, raw speed, power & in his pinches white Ichigo steps in to do the same kit, but stronger. Ichigo has ZERO means of dealing with hax and even if he did it's not a guarantee. Even in the scenario you presented he had his chance to quote on quote "one shot" Askin and FAILED. Urahara & Yoruichi literally tried that very option during the fight with Askin and he could not die due to his vollstandig even tho they had the appropriate hax to deal with him.
@@kronasmotivationaldrink8342 Urahara and yoruichi aren’t ichigo. Also ichigo never tried to do that. Considering how he does against juha in that form there’s no way askin is on that level. He may be haxed but ichigo can one shot him. He’s much faster and could honestly decapitate his head if he wanted to.
Well ichigo never rlly mastered his new bankai and shit yet so he still has a ton of room to be stronger than he already is and plus dude is still a soul king candidate he most definitely gonna get more broken the more his power improves
@@jackson0572 you say that but Kenpachis potential was legendary and he couldn’t use half of his true fighting strength because his body couldn’t handle it yet. Given sometime kenpachi would reach a higher level maybe not as high as Ichigo but very high.
Gremmy isnt stupid, you have to be VERY high intelligent to be able to use it properly or you just get yourself killed. For example in Gremmy's case he imagined kenpachi as a monster and he then imagined himself stronger than kenpachi then died because his body could not handle the immense strength and power. You can say hes stupid but stuff like this would happen to almost anyone with this schrift.
Pretty sure it's implied kenpachi is weaker than ichigo. His quote to hikone is along the lines of "if you can't beat me how can you compare yourself to ichigo" Ichigo would speed blitz Lille unless you're saying kyoraku is faster ichigo who currently has the fastest recorded speed(completed a week's journey for zero division in several hours). Gremmy stands no chance due to how weak of a vessel he is(his hax got over powdered by zaraki). Gerard might prove worthy(but even so he would need to be killed several times over to even reach that point) so would aizen. Unsure of the rest. Should also mention ichigo has an ability strong enough to scare yhwach(it's not the mere power boost coz why tf would he be scared of something just stronger and faster it'd need to be far more deadly so if his hax work it might more than likely work on Gerard as well.
Kyoraku, if he starts his bankai before ichigo can realize, they can kill eachother, and no even if lille get blitzed, it won't do shit as he is intangible
@@br5073 he was able to barely reacting with shunsui before vollstandig. If you're assuming ichigo is slower than shunsui I don't know what to say. As of current ichigo is the fastest character in terms of pure speed.
Ichigo’s true Bankai alters fate. If he gets a clean hit he can kill anybody no matter if you had immortality or intangability. The reason it didn’t work the first time on Juha Bach is cause he has access to the infinite multiverse and can just choose a time line where he doesn’t get cut. It did work when Uryu used his sternriter ability to take away Bach’s reality power though.
Not true at all ywach looked into the future and broke it then because it was dangerous for him he knew ichigo was on his level which is why when aizen tricked ywach by being ichigo he saw aizen as the bigger threat look at the fight he saw who he thought was ichigo and aizen saw aizen as like Meh saw ichigo without bankai and wa alike he’ll nah I need to take care of him first
Bleach fans need to stop saying stupid things about ichigo's bankai. They don't even know what their abilities are. Saved the fact that that bankai can kill a Yhwach that doesn't possess the Almighty. But he cannot kill Yhwach if he possesses the Almighty. He is stronger than Aizen. But giving him abilities he doesn't have is overstepping the Lore.
I'd also put Jugram with his Balance reversing all damage back to him. He destroyed his pre True Zanpakutō Bankai with zero difficulty. So him fully using his Schrift, and possible Volständig (Which I believe he has because of Yhwach's trust with him with the Almighty of all things, that and Yhwach gives others powers through Reishi as well)
This is the same manga where once you achieve a high enough power literally any ability below your power is just negated. Does ichigo not hop into that category for a second time?
Gremmy wasn't stupid, his loss to Kenpachi was purely because he couldn't fathom the level of strength Kenny possessed. When he created that indestructible meteor, he could only naturally define "indestructible" by his own standards, as such he created a meteor that is indestructible to him, by his own limitations. Sort of like people saying it's impossible to play *random song* on guitar, if they don't play guitar, it's only impossible for them.
Funny thing is he isn't stupid his ability is too potent anything he imagines happens any stray though can become reality. He asked for Kenny's strength and just the thought of him maybe not being strong enough to contain it resulted in him becoming deformed.
Gremmy isn’t stupid. People don’t seem to understand that with a power like his. Any little thought can become reality. So if at any point he feels afraid or feels inferior, he will be
Orihime with a pregnancy test
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lol they already have a son though
@@baljeetubee4282 who's to say she didn't defeat him with it in the timeskip
Boi immediately change his hairstyle to dad haircut 🤣
@@Shiroyasha27 he did? yea I’m dropping this
Gremmy isn't stupid. He literally had zero battle experience and was locked in a basement his whole life.
Exactly
Yeah the dude can literally say he wins and he does. The only reason he didn't beat kenpachi was because of zero fight experience on his behalf. Give his shrift to say somebody like Askin and bodies wouldn't even exist cause he'd look at somebody and say disappear and they would
Funnily enough his own fear imagining kenpachi beat him was his downfall
That's a pretty shit excuse. Mother fucker can imagine anything into existence and he didn't even summon a black hole
@@darknesswave100 yeah. If "The Visionary" was given in people like Askin, Jugram, Or Quilge it will be all Over for the Shinigami
Urahara doesn’t need prep time, he has probably already prepared for this.
thats what im saying i bet you he had a idea where the quincies would control him or something
Wouldn’t that be prep time since he needed time to prepare
Yeah since he gained his powers back because of urahara maybe he made a way to take it back to
Urahara is the type of guy who has a plan B for a plan B
@@sageqrt9053you though him as Batman? What is this? contingency plan?
Orihime after saying "dinners ready"
HELL NAW💀
Funniest comment and gets so few likes? Tf?
and it's her with no clothes on lmao, ichigo stands 0 chances
To be fair Ichigo still hasn't hit his prime yet so he is still growing stronger.
Ye, but the manga îs over
@@zoobagameplay5477 nah it's not
@@zoobagameplay5477 We have Hell Arc Ichigo so it isn't over
Far from over....well depends how long the hell arc will be
@@ken-14san94 there hasn’t been any confirmation that the hell arc is going to continue, it’s just a one shot right now.
Ichibei: You're an 🐜
Yhwach: No I'm Yhwach
Ichibei: 💀😥
ichibei: 💥
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@@_Nigga_. Its a manga joke and also can I say your username?
@@_Nigga_. Your name 💀
@@_Nigga_. you'll know
Gremmy: i am the brain of the Soul King
Gerard: i am the heart of the Soul King
Pernida: I am the hand of the Soul King
Ichibei: i am the king's royal guard
Lilie: I am intangible.
Ichigo: I have the power to become the Soul King himself so your powers are irrelevant.
Fake Gremmy is not the King's brain. That's just some nonsense the fandom made up. Neither in the manga nor in the later novels is anything mentioned about him with that statement.
They wanted to make Ichigo "the king". What people don't understand is that being "the king" It does not mean being on the same level as the spiritual king. If not be strong enough to be left being a life support of all the worlds.
@@caesar.emperorit’s not made up it’s heavily implied by the CFYW books written by the Author. If the Author implies it we take the hint.
@@Jacaerys1it’s implied but not confirmed
It’s still just a fan theory, regardless of the evidence
Correction:
Ichigo: *"Cool but I have a big sword, fuck you all."*
I might agree with Urahara as he is Bleach’s equivalent to Batman in that regard. Mayuri im pretty sure still gets overpowered, but he kinda carried victory after victory in every fight he was in, especially in TYBW, Mayuri with prep is also terrifying.
Mayuri >> Urahara.
Tell me how is Urahara above Mayuri in preparation??
@@ononthecreator He Developed A Technique To Regain Soul Reapers Bankai From Sternritters It Wasn't Maguri Who Did This... Read Comic If Urahara Wasn't There They Were Over In The Second Battle Too 🤣
@@ShudowEdits_ Soul society would have failed against aizen if there was no Mayuri.
Lol
He made the fkt and the extra portal from hm to fkt for ichigo.
And in tybw.
He revived some caps, and also the arrancars which helped a great deal in war. Dezombified people and stopped The crazy Giselle. Defeated a schutzstaffel.
Oh and not just helping people he has just overall bigger feats.
Like creating his organs and fitting them in body in few mins, developing potions to recreate cut limbs , all crazy drugs and poisons and oh creating a Captain level shinigami in lab..
@@ononthecreatorbro Mayuri is second to Urahara even Urahara stated this
@@ononthecreator🗿
People tend to forget that in the bleach universe, spiritual pressure is a thing and ichigo has so much of it that is visible, I remember the time Aizen nullified Soi Fon ability bc of his Spiritual Pressure
Yet some hax literally ignore that rule. Aizens kyoka suigetsu for example literally does not care.
Exactly
I just typed the exact commen
@@Xero-rr2ol no hax ignores anything
@@Xero-rr2ol well, it didn't work the same with Ywach( Father Quincy ).
@@mobolajiajayi-peters214 if the gap in power is massive hax abilities are useless
Actually aizen is the only alive person I believe has the power to go toe to toe with current ichigo
I personally think that aizen can beat ichigo.
Yep....
@@blueball2972 no
@@pkay8357 you dont think true shikai is stronger then mugetsu
@@pkay8357 what makes u think hes later forms are weaker
Lili barro: I have intangiblity.
Ichigo: I have plot armor
Still Aizen Negs your ass
where was that plot armor against Askin? Ichigo is powerful but a lot oof their hax are just far greater than his. He's 1 of the most powerful people in Bleach but would lost to a decent amount of people because of hax abilities alone. I don't mean weaker people obviously, i mean most top tiers with hax abilities.
@@lou98tif not for plot armor ichigo should’ve been clapped by almost all of his opponents cuz ichigo is a one trick pony and if the story didn’t constantly tell you that ichigo was getting stronger then you wouldn’t have been able to notice cuz most of ichigo’s “forms” are just him withe a new look and a bigger power level spamming the same old attack.
@@psionicdante3532 agreed
@@lou98t and it’s even worse when you consider that ichigo’s full bring powers are his original soul reaper and Quincey/ hollow powers witch makes you wonder the that the hell is ichigo’s soul reaper powers in the first place cuz it can’t be the getsuga cuz udahada tought him that meaning it’s not some secret or special ability only exclusive to ichigo it it was already known by some who wasn’t ichigo or zangetsu and it gets even more bizarre cut calls into question exactly that the hell is ichigo’s full bring as well.
That lyric timing "they tell me im a god" as Aizen pops up
Gremmy was never stupid, he was sealed by Yhwach and couldn’t learn more to increase his ability potential.
They meant germmy with battle iq. I mean Gremmy could have negged kenpachi the moment he saw him🤷🏻♂️
@@user-xj5ct6ub6nso you mean that he needs biq for his techniques biggest flaw which is he can’t imagine himself losing or he loses which is what happend against kenpachi
@@burhan8728 the first problem was he didn't think of a body enhancement to contain power greater than zaraki. Second was him fighting head on instead of killing zaraki like how he killed rose and kensei. Third is him underestimating his opponent. Lastly, he could have imagined himself getting miraculously healed from the backlash, he could have imagined time stopping for zaraki. There were infinite possibilities of winning tbh🤷🏻♂️
He could just think of Zaraki's bones as cookies just like he did with Yachiru bruh.What would Kenpachi do if all his bones turned into cookies.
@@ruatmawiachawngthu9139 exactly. He had infinite ways to win, but with no battle iq, guy was a bummer
URUHARA AND MAYURI THAY ARE THE BATMAN OF THE ANIME VERSE
😂😂😂
nah .... they are like ironman...their INT points are maxed out...they just win with their brains
AIZEN is like The Cautious hero that maxed every stat possible
False
@@RicegumNeverBrokeAgain nah thay are like mayuri is half iron man and half batman but uruhara is the batman realy
@@FireGodSlayer yes
Just don't let them prep for heaven's sake ,You could kill them if your the visionary.
bro has plot armor
Against Gerard, if he needed to, he could use the final getsuga and just get rin of him entirely as it's steated to be the most powerful attack in the series.
Gremmy if he has IQ like Kisuke he would solos whole ass verse
There’s still Yhwach and the Prime Soul King
@@polartang250 Gremmy could just imagine them having no powers that's why he would he OP if he had Kisuke's IQ
@@Cvehffa Yhwach gave him his schrifft. He could always just take it away and I don’t know if you know this but Gremmy is brain of the soul king like how Gerard, Pernida and Mimihagi were the hands and heart of the soul king
@@polartang250 I agree with with yhwach part but he still solos it's all about IQ and if he had Kisuke's IQ he would just imagine yhwach with no powers or something even worse but yeah Gremmy isn't smart so Yhwach negs
@@Cvehffa 😑 it's not possible , he can't do anything to yhwach or anyone whose spiritual energy is stronger than him it's simple
"yeah but NO😂"
-Tite Kubo
Bar for bar
If only i could repost this lol
When did he say that
@@rat5434 r/wooosh
Zangetsu is like Tite Kubo a little bit for me XD
Kazui : hei dad 🗿
“Gremmy if he wasn’t so stupid” killed me
I wish we got a proper explanation for Ichigo’s bankai because honestly as of rn it is just a big sword, but it’s also supposed to be dangerous enough to kill soul king Yhwach meaning that technically, with heavy assumption, it should have some kind of hack negation ability or idk just something to overpower even the countless hacks that Yhwach had.
That said, if Ichigo decided to train and master all of his abilities, no one would stand a chance
yhwach simply saw the potentiall of the bankai to kill him
its not known if its due to an abillity or not
Kubota said the ichigo in hell arc already mastered all his power
@@papanotdaddy1012 Yeah but he doesn’t specify. Kubo could have meant simply mastering Zangetsu and the balance between his powers, but I mean if Ichigo truly exploited his potential, he’d have no match.
By that I mean learning proper kido, Cero, bala, cero oscuras, hierro, blut vene, reishi manipulation at a decent level. If Ichigo masters all of those, then he’d be unmatched
@@axelblaze6052 Well he was meant to be the next soul king, the perfect hybrid
That would actually be a cool ability for a bankai. "The hax slayer" just because of how many bleach characters have an op hax
Ignoring the whole "my reiatsu cancels everyone else reiatsu" bit that Aizen explain.
The whole Post Timeskip has been retconning that.
@@polartang250 pretty sure it did not.
Ichigo broke yukio dimension because of that.
@@elcalabozodelandroide2 Everybody felt Yhwach’s reiatsu when he absorbed the soul king and I think we both know that he’s has more reiatsu than Dangai Ichigo and Hogyoku Aizen
@@polartang250 no one felt kenpachi.
@@elcalabozodelandroide2 Don’t recall that ever happening
“If he was not stupid” lol
bro no one know how strong true bankai ichigo is not for the fact that ywach feard its potential
Ye
Yeah but Ywach said not to that shit and broke it
@@be4u724that's why he broke it 💀
@@dante_sparda2 well ywach broke it “broke it”
@@be4u724
And then it got restored.
I want to see Ichigo' true bankai and Aizen's bankai before i die.😫😭😭
Ichigo's true bankai is already in the manga when he fought Yhwach.
For Aizen, I am not sure. Because he is already a god on using kido (he also have high amount of reiatsu). Even if he does have bankai, that shit is gonna destroy ichigo (probably).
@@3RF4N Nah, i mean the one Yhwach destroyed before Ichigo releases.
@@3RF4N we don’t know what his bankai can do we only have theories
@@3RF4N Yhwach must not make any error moves when he's fighting against HoS True Bankai Ichigo while he enjoys his fight calmly when he's fighting against Aizen. This statement is enough to know who's stronger. Oh and the seal only restrict his reiatsu range not power so don't include and made up some bs with that as excuses we know you all wankers very well. 😉 I love Bleach and a huge Aizen fan even i can tell Ichigo is stronger.
@@mse7215 the chair he was in was severly dampening his power. He definitely regains it by the end of the arc
Correction: Kenpachi is in the same realm, but there’s different levels to this shit😂
Kenpachi also getting stronger. We don't even know how strong Prime Zaraki gonna be
Ichigo got done by askin lol
@@wazah1878not this Askin sgit again..this is why I hate Askin simp
@@TheYoungMindzI mean, do you have a counter argument against it?
@unpredictableflow4740 Askin could drop anyone. Ridiculous power. He floored Ichigo and Grimmjow instantly.
Urahara and Aizen are the only ones I’m agreeing with, although Urahara isn’t as strong he’s basically like Batman
Gerard isn't actually immortal. He has a "core" that if destroyed, so is he. This was stated by Kubo. It likely will be revised in the Anime like other fights.
Aizen, prep urahara & prep mayuri got the best chance imo...and smart gremmy would be op & scary ash💀
Gerard defo is up with those 3
@@swapnavadey6096 Can see that 💯
Only aizen......
Lillie would have wiped out the soul society if it wasn't for his own ego being his downfall.
@@Thecor13 Lille got beaten by shunsui
Without his immortality shunsui would have beaten him even easier
Hell arc ichigo gonna hit different bro
Everyone is gangster until ichigo reveals his true bankai
i agree
@@sprinklemyturtle6634i don't
This is something really cool about Bleach, the powers are created in such a way that you can see and feel the potential on each one. For example, Izuru Kira, the liutenant of the 3rd squad, his shikai is so simple yet so strong, after activating his shikai, Wabisuke, his sword becames like a Hook, but with two 90 degree angles, having a Blade in the inner side, with the special ability to double the weight of everything it touches, and its acumulative, so basically after hitting your sword 3 times ir becames 8 times heavier. Tell me that couldn't be really overpowered
Imagine the bankai...the weight of judgement or smthng like that
@@evichibell8355 Hoping it appears on No Breaths from Hell
Seeing the clean healthy discord in this chat is why I love fandom
I wouldnt say gremmy was stupid i would say he lacked battle and life experience to use his power.
he was never taught anything properly. so his IQ was very low. it means stupid for me 😂 but its just me tho
i feel like the visionary is kind of a complicated thing to use
you can't really control what becomes real when you imagine things
like you can think "whoa i can really go for anime thighs" and it'll pop up
or you can think "oh my god my mom is gonna kill me because i failed the test" and you'll die
under rated fr
im a new Bleach fan
Bankai : Zanka no Tachhi 🔥
True
Are people gonna ignore the fact that Ichigo has a broken asf bankai that freaked the shit out of Yhwach. Dude literally had his true bankai broken by yhwach just because the future showed him what kind of a monster true ichigo versions really are.
Bruh said urahara with prep bro is like the Batman of bleach 😭
Urahara got that Michael Jackson treatment white black 😂
He doesn't look black tho, more like white but extremely tan. Many white people who are tan look like that, popular example can be Cristiano Ronaldo.
I don’t think Ronaldo even he is not that tan
Yamamoto and barragan : hold my beer
Tf is barragan going to do to a ichigo that even yhwach was afraid off? Barragan got clapped by pre TYBW arc characters let alone 1 of the weakest captains n Yama got clapped by yhwach lol
Yamamoto with his Bankai Maybe.
Barragan with his Respira but that can be dodged
Pernida and Asking should be on the list too.
Askin shq
Pernida?? Why?
@@chiefbeef3587 because he is the left hand of the soul king. He is also pseudo immortal. It literally one shot Kenpachi with ease. If it wasn't for Nemu's DNA Mayuri would've been screwed.
Zaraki Kenpachi needs to reminds himself who the f*ck he is.
"The destroyer of fate"
This is what I like about bleach it doesn’t abandon is side characters they all still get a chance to shine
Yeah, im just bored with the imbalance of mainstream anime where they just focus to make the MC is become the strongest and make all of the cool side character just become a loser
Chad:
@@jowyschwarz313Try black clover
It’s so funny that Gremmy was literally given the strongest power ever in not just Bleach but the entirety of anime in general but Kubo intentionally made him fkin stupid to balance him
EDIT: you nerds in the comments getting mad over nothing
I wouldn't say entirety of anime. He's not omnipotent
He wasn't stupid, the man didn't have enough experience in battles
@@micah459 he doesn't have to be. His shrift is literally the ability to make whatever he wants a reality. He could imagine you dead and you would die. All he has to do is imagine it and it happens. No omnipotence needed
@Frozen Monster could be. only reason hr died was cuz he imagined to have kenpachi's power but his body couldn't handle it. if he imagined first to have strong body he wouldn't die and would beat the crap out kenpachi. kenpachi only survived gremmy cuz gremmy wanted to fight. not just kill. if he wanted to just finish kenpachi off he would just imagine him dead and kenpachi would die.
Nah
Uryu if that guy knew how to use antithesis properly. I mean he can just exchange the state of a broken rock lying nearby with ichigo and kill him in seconds
Mayuri is focused on efficiency rather than the strength of their bankai/zanpakuto. Even when maryuri's bankai was destroyed he just said "i could always make one"
the fact that only Aizen without Bankai is on this list demonstrates how op he is
He is his zanpakuto now, if I remember correctly, kinda like mugestu.
You forgot Urahara
@@animexgamer320 Urahara has a bankai
@@elaizakaguya4631 but he wouldn't use it for someone like ichigo he can beat ichigo with kido with prep
@@animexgamer320 u are not kubo so stop the cap. U talk as if u know what will urahara do and will not do
Ichigo in True Bankai has fate manipulation as said by Yhwach and even he was scared of Ichigos True Bankai. He prob negs all of em besides a smart Gremmy, just like how Yhwach did/would've. Prep time doesn't help you if you just change the future in which everyone of those plans fail. Also forgot Gerard and Aizen, they are immortal, so Ichigo may beat them but won't be able to kill them
That's an asspull
I don't remember that being stated anywhere at all, source?
Because from what I recall all Yhwach said was Ichigo has a powerful bankai and he broke it before it could be used in the story. We don't see its potential at all.
@@Redhollow To some extent Ichigo can resist fate due to Yhwach literally being able to choose which future he wants to go to and him finding Ichigo to be a threat is evidence of this.
@@tamashi5066 That doesn't necessarily follow. Yhwach more likely feared him because at full power, there would be *no future* in which Yhwach can win. The Almighty cannot make the impossible possible, if there is no possibility of something happening, he can't do it, hence why the Almighty could not be used to kill Aizen.
@@Mr.Monacle ichigo does have minor fate manip just that it's tied to himself and not his actual zanpakuto ability. What we do know of his ability is that it's ridiculous enough to have yhwach take no chances against it, he also resisted the almighty 2nd time round showing he's got some form of adaptive resistance or else his sword would've been snapped in twine like last time.
Gremmy is like the author saw Misogi Kumagawa and was like "but what if he didn't know how to use his power optimally?"
Even yawach was feared his bankai bro the guy who absorbed the walkary
Where's Askin? He literally put war arc Grimmjow to nighty night and made true shikai Ichigo a carpet.😴🌙
Well he is dangerous but ichigo with his quincy and hollow regeneration powers should be able to handle it with his bankei
Didnt read the manga in a long time tough
@@loligerpoper5998 literally none of those things would save Ichigo dude. Askin isn't deteriorating anything, no 'healing factor' stops his ability. In fact Askin is probably the most durable character we've seen in this series, lol.
Bro had his heart ripped out and crushed and he was STILL talkin' smack lol.
@@loligerpoper5998 Askin could have literally slit Ichigo and Grimmjow's throat right there and ended the series, if it wasn't for his "that's not my type of style" shit. Also if it wasn't for Nel, Kisuke Urahara and Yoruichi Shihoin would be dead. That's what kind of threat Askin is, the Deathdealing indeed.
@@loligerpoper5998 That time, Ichigo and Grimmjow weren't just sleep. They were knocked out because they are DYING from Askin's poison. They're not gonna be cable of doing powerups or defense when they're knocked out, weak, and dying.
@@xaxally didn't askin attack ichigo whilst he had his guard down coz they were about to engage shunsui uses bankai ichigo gets distracted by it and then we come back to ichigo being downed. Remember askin in vollstandig gets blitzd and tagged by bankai kisuke on multiple occasions so unless you're saying kisuke is faster than ichigo askin doesn't really stand much of a chance.
can't say anything since we haven't see the ultimate bankai Ichigo power.
even yhwach (howeverthefukitisspelled) need to use soul king hack to beat bankai ichigo
Urahara everywhere with prep like he needs to do homework 💀 every time
Gremmy gets blitzed before he can even think
No 😅
@@mr.dragonstar2387In shikai ichigo was shown to be able to speedblitz bambi's
and his bankai increases his physical stats by a lot and we have like not seen a single speed feat from gremmy because he likes to just stand and stay still
so yeah ichigo speedblitzes him so hard
Yeah and then what? He would have been hard to cut since he already imagined himself to be tougher then steel
I like that ichigo is not the strongest in his verse .. but if he ever trains (like the fullbring arc) his Quincy powers it’s ova …
I'm agree with the gremmy's description
One of the few videos like these I fully agree with.
Mayuri is the captain you would never want to fight 💀
ok this is just if this happened so
gremmy was scared in a fight and started imagining he'd lose but because he imagined that he already lost 💀
Kenpachi and Mayuri is just a no go for me dawg😂😂 can’t ever imagine it
with the amount of evil things mayuri can do, hes better off just accepting the L
I mean Kenpachi is really stronger in the manga and he has his bankai so it’s debatable tbh.
Both of them are potentially very dangerous. Considering kenpachi was in the list of 5 game changers
@@Scxrred. Kenpachi isn’t stronger than ichigo stop it 😂
@@marmarbuckz5243 can you read? I said it’s debatable I never stated he’s stronger than Ichigo stop trying to manipulate my words 🤣
Ichigo watching this video : im the MC bitches
Gremmy wasn't even stupid, Zaraki simply tanked everything until Gremmy simply WASN'T ABLE to imagine him dying to anything. And it all started with Zaraki saying "have some imagination!"
it's hard to defeat someone who believes they cannot be defeated
I’ve never seen someone try to low ball Ichigo this hard in my life😂. Everyone except for Aizen and maybe Ichibe are getting washed.
Ichibei beats ichigo for the reason the youtuber said
@@fadestickit’s been shown in the CFYOW novel that reiatsu can overpower ichibeis ability
@@tyranis4433 ikimikidomoe only weakened the seal not break it
Ichigo can't counter Ichimonji
Bro if gremmy had battle exp could solo the bleach verse😅
@@marshmellow9855 well the fight with Kenpachi shows that his imagination has its limits. Not to mention you have to be extremely egotistical to effectively use the Visionary (even though it’s not really a schrift).
Btw I hope that u are aware that ichigo is barely scratching his potential even at the end of tybw. Heck His bankai isn't even revealed yet . I think this video is unneeded
The crazy is that his true bankai was so powerful that ywach didn't want to face it so he broke the sword to prevent him from using it
Grimmjow should be here
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Gremmy isn’t stupid. He just never experienced the world cause he was sealed in a room so his imagination is stagnant.can you imagine something you’ve never seen ? No right ? Its the same for him the little he knows makes him that powerful.
Now imagine if the guy lived normally like the other sternritter,he’d be pretty much unstoppable for most if not everyone on the verse.
He’s basically a child that looks like a teen/young adult.
Except of course yhwach.
Bro if Kubo didn’t write Gremmy to have low Battle IQ and no battle experience he would be way too broken. 😂
yeap that why he didn't do that😂 i mean he has so broken ability that if his iq and exp was anywhere near aizen's he would just end the show way too early😂 and we wouldn't have pretty sad ending with dead main character and his whole squad😂 author avoided that for sure😂😂😂
ouch, bro called me stupid
Sad thing is that we never actually got to see his Bankai Pre-Broken zanpakto. But we got to see his true?, True Bankai I don't know what the hell went on there
Urahara always has prep time, in his fight with death dealing he explained he thinks of every possible power and outcome for everything in a battle
You forgot Askin. He literally beat him
Grammys visionary got overpowered by strength 💀
YHWACH would have won but he couldn't control all of the Soul king's power that was his problem. Of course the Soul King has everyone's abilities! Plus YHWACH isn't dead he comes back every 900 years a new one is always born!
Where's Askin? Didn't that dude off screen the shit out of Ichigo 😂
True shikai Ichigo and he caught him off guard. Considering how he performed against Urahara Ichigo bodies him
@@edmund1737 Doubtful. Ichigo has no countermeasures against Askin's ability hence why he got folded AFTER his training mind you.
@@kronasmotivationaldrink8342 bro he does. He can one shot him. It’s really that easy. Askin’s ability only works if he can at least survive one attack. Ichigo is more than fast and strong enough to kill him in one attack.
@@edmund1737 Ichigo ain't all powerful, his battle kit is mad basic: Getsuga Tensho, raw speed, power & in his pinches white Ichigo steps in to do the same kit, but stronger. Ichigo has ZERO means of dealing with hax and even if he did it's not a guarantee. Even in the scenario you presented he had his chance to quote on quote "one shot" Askin and FAILED. Urahara & Yoruichi literally tried that very option during the fight with Askin and he could not die due to his vollstandig even tho they had the appropriate hax to deal with him.
@@kronasmotivationaldrink8342 Urahara and yoruichi aren’t ichigo. Also ichigo never tried to do that. Considering how he does against juha in that form there’s no way askin is on that level. He may be haxed but ichigo can one shot him. He’s much faster and could honestly decapitate his head if he wanted to.
Kubo clarified Gerard isn’t actually immortal. Destroy the quency cross hidden in his body and he’ll die and stay dead.
The Grammy was personal
Well ichigo never rlly mastered his new bankai and shit yet so he still has a ton of room to be stronger than he already is and plus dude is still a soul king candidate he most definitely gonna get more broken the more his power improves
same with kenpachi
@@andrewsaiyan except ichigo's potential far eclipses that of kenpachi
@@jackson0572 you say that but Kenpachis potential was legendary and he couldn’t use half of his true fighting strength because his body couldn’t handle it yet. Given sometime kenpachi would reach a higher level maybe not as high as Ichigo but very high.
Gremmy really could win virtually any and all fights if he just paused and realised that how broken the power of literal IMAGINATION actually is
Yhwach's almighty is a visible plot armor.
Gremmy isnt stupid, you have to be VERY high intelligent to be able to use it properly or you just get yourself killed. For example in Gremmy's case he imagined kenpachi as a monster and he then imagined himself stronger than kenpachi then died because his body could not handle the immense strength and power. You can say hes stupid but stuff like this would happen to almost anyone with this schrift.
he just needed to imagine
-he has calm mid
-he has very high intellegent
Expect from Aizen Ichigoat literally speedblitz others 💀
Pretty sure it's implied kenpachi is weaker than ichigo. His quote to hikone is along the lines of "if you can't beat me how can you compare yourself to ichigo"
Ichigo would speed blitz Lille unless you're saying kyoraku is faster ichigo who currently has the fastest recorded speed(completed a week's journey for zero division in several hours). Gremmy stands no chance due to how weak of a vessel he is(his hax got over powdered by zaraki). Gerard might prove worthy(but even so he would need to be killed several times over to even reach that point) so would aizen. Unsure of the rest.
Should also mention ichigo has an ability strong enough to scare yhwach(it's not the mere power boost coz why tf would he be scared of something just stronger and faster it'd need to be far more deadly so if his hax work it might more than likely work on Gerard as well.
Kyoraku, if he starts his bankai before ichigo can realize, they can kill eachother, and no even if lille get blitzed, it won't do shit as he is intangible
@@raunakdas5764 Lille has to manually turn himself intangible.
@@glizzynator5258 Bro you’re assuming ichigo can one shot Lille before he can react. Not happening
@@br5073 he was able to barely reacting with shunsui before vollstandig. If you're assuming ichigo is slower than shunsui I don't know what to say. As of current ichigo is the fastest character in terms of pure speed.
@@glizzynator5258 W
Urahara is the batman of bleach
Totally forgot about Lille, he so cool
Ichigo’s true Bankai alters fate. If he gets a clean hit he can kill anybody no matter if you had immortality or intangability. The reason it didn’t work the first time on Juha Bach is cause he has access to the infinite multiverse and can just choose a time line where he doesn’t get cut. It did work when Uryu used his sternriter ability to take away Bach’s reality power though.
That's an headcanon
Not true at all ywach looked into the future and broke it then because it was dangerous for him he knew ichigo was on his level which is why when aizen tricked ywach by being ichigo he saw aizen as the bigger threat look at the fight he saw who he thought was ichigo and aizen saw aizen as like
Meh saw ichigo without bankai and wa alike he’ll nah I need to take care of him first
There is no legitimate proof that Ichigo's bankai has that ability. That's all fan headcanon.
Bleach fans need to stop saying stupid things about ichigo's bankai. They don't even know what their abilities are. Saved the fact that that bankai can kill a Yhwach that doesn't possess the Almighty. But he cannot kill Yhwach if he possesses the Almighty. He is stronger than Aizen. But giving him abilities he doesn't have is overstepping the Lore.
I'd also put Jugram with his Balance reversing all damage back to him. He destroyed his pre True Zanpakutō Bankai with zero difficulty.
So him fully using his Schrift, and possible Volständig (Which I believe he has because of Yhwach's trust with him with the Almighty of all things, that and Yhwach gives others powers through Reishi as well)
Ichigo speed blitzes
Kisuke is basically like batman. He can throw hands (unless he dosent have prep time)
gremmy could’ve been the strongest character within the Quinces if he hadn’t gotten arrogant and actually thought of a plan
Bleach's hax is so strong fr
and ablilites so cool
This is the same manga where once you achieve a high enough power literally any ability below your power is just negated. Does ichigo not hop into that category for a second time?
This giy doesn't understand that
thank you this is why i beleive aizens attcks cant harm ichigo but hes illusions and hes immortality can make it a tough fight
@@George-jc3mtaizen grew strong enough to hurt juha, I think he can damage Ichigo.
Gremmy wasn't stupid, his loss to Kenpachi was purely because he couldn't fathom the level of strength Kenny possessed. When he created that indestructible meteor, he could only naturally define "indestructible" by his own standards, as such he created a meteor that is indestructible to him, by his own limitations. Sort of like people saying it's impossible to play *random song* on guitar, if they don't play guitar, it's only impossible for them.
Kenpachi's fans trying to not take CFYOW literally test
(They instantly fail since CFYOW uses a lot of metaphors and euphemism, and they can't read.)
Funny thing is he isn't stupid his ability is too potent anything he imagines happens any stray though can become reality. He asked for Kenny's strength and just the thought of him maybe not being strong enough to contain it resulted in him becoming deformed.
also kisuke has good feats and IQ best in the show so he doesn't need prep tbh
True but ichigo was raw power and hax that kisuke can't dodge
If Gremmy was a genius like Aizen or Urahara , he would've been next to Soul King
Gremmy isn’t stupid. People don’t seem to understand that with a power like his. Any little thought can become reality. So if at any point he feels afraid or feels inferior, he will be
This is why I love Bleach and Tite Kubo’s work, doesn’t make the main character the strongest. Leaves more room for story etc.