I decided to get back into riding after a 15 year break and picked up this bike. This is technically my 3rd bike. My original goal was to get used to riding and upgrade to something bigger, but I just can’t find something I like better. I’ve put 2,500+ miles on this in 2 months driving to work or anywhere else I have an excuse for. It gets great mileage, is ideal for urban commutes, and has zero issues passing traffic on the highway. Unfortunately, I can see the second hand market for these mays struggle because if anyone fells the same way as I do they’ll never sell this bike. Kudos to you Kawasaki.
I’ve had my 24 SE ABS since May 2024 and put over 1400 miles on it already. I love it! It’s comfortable, quick and fun. Love being able to throw it around easily and it takes the curves like a sport bike 🤘🏻
As someone not interested in traditional cruisers, this is really appealing. Better seating position, lighter weight, and z400 modified engine. Thanks for showing!
I am in love with the bike just like this new review! The first thing I did was put mirror extensions on it as the reviewer is correct I could not see well behind me. I also added a pigtail for my battery tender, and a usb charger port on the handlebar. I have the same phone mount as the reviewer and works great especially with the offset speedo. almost bought the Vulcan S but I knew as soon as I test rode this it was the bike for me! I rode a lot of different type bikes throughout the years and this is by far the most enjoyable! 400 miles so far and have not even gotten close to redline. The power is incredible! 73yo here!!
@@3Kayaks-q6rI see some folks complaigning about the Eliminator not being 750cc & whatever... Well after riding a few other bikes i can say that a 388lb low-slung sporty cruiser with 52hp sounds mighty fine as an everyday rider.
I have owned a gray ABS model now for a week in the U.S. and can say I originally was going to buy a Vulcan S. This bike just felt more comfortable to ride. Still in break in period but I can say it has all the power you would ever want. Some say they do not like the sound but I will take it all day long as I do not have to wear ear plugs!
I used to own a ninja and was thinking I should go to the Z400 because I'm getting older, but this one screams my name. How are you liking it after a month?
I was worried about being short and getting this bike (I'm also 5'4) I'm glad that isn't an issue! I'm really digging this bike. Everyone seems to be saying good things about it
I've road nothing but dual sports and Dirtbikes, so that seating position looks great to me. I've rode on big cruisers and couldn't get used to having my feet that far in front of me. My buddies say I'm crazy and it's way comfortable. I just don't feel like I have as much control of the bike as I'd like. Especially since I've been squeezing tanks with my knees my whole life.
These mid pegs are far different than forward ones , I have old LS650 so I know mid pegs , it's very comfy and you can force yourself off the seat for bumps if needed. I also have a crf250L rally .
Thank you for changing my life. I sat on this exact Eliminator 500 (450?) SE today. I tried a Honda SCL500 and even an R.E. Scram, but only because that one was marked down to $4,000 (but not my style). I had thought I was going to get a Vulcan S, over a Rebel 500, neither of which I have sat on. I read I would tire of the Rebel (power) and wish I had the Vulcan S, but now after seeing your previous video on the Vulcan and now on the Eliminator (as you promised), I have to say, the Eliminator felt great (5’,11”, 150#). I sat on a Rebel 1100 ($11,200) and it was a monster to me. The price of the Eliminator is $7,250 before dealer fees (Update: $9,000 OTD) and they seem anxious to sell it. You need know, this will be my forever bike. I will not replace it ever; my decision will be final. I’m not interested in speed, but I was concerned about being run over on the interstate, even if just a few miles, so it must do 80 MPH. I’m in a more rural part of central FL (Lakeland) and I just want something to run around town in and have fun; nothing to drive long miles on; I have a car for that. Maybe Tampa one way, or Orlando on the other, but those are less than an hour. I don’t even want bags and I’d prefer to remove the back seat if it wouldn’t leave a mark, because I’d never use it. I wouldn’t let someone sit on the back of a moving motorcycle for anything, and nothing could change my opinion. Since I’m a small guy, you’ve convinced me I’d be happier with the Eliminator (not over time - just this minute). I tried a Honda SCL500 ($6,800 - 419lbs) and it didn’t “fit” like the Eliminator does. The seat on the Honda felt not right between my thighs and I didn’t like that at all (banana style seat or whatever it is). I know you’re not asking but if it helps anyone, the Eliminator fits my “gear” better than any other I’ve tried and the gas tank is sleek in style and doesn’t make me spread my legs and smash my nutts as the others do. I was going tomorrow to see a Vulcan S (pre-owned 2021 - $6,500) at Sky Powersports in Cocoa Beach, about 100 miles from me, but the guy at the dealership here has the patience and personality that someone like me requires and I'm thinking the price difference isn't enough not to buy a new one. This guy Nick with Fun Bike Center Motorsports I'd never been to was easy to talk to and didn’t come across as the salesman that he is, so we understand each other and I need local service. When I got there, I told him I was not shopping for a bike, but a place to buy one; those two are separate (well kinda). It appears he is on the level I need to work with. He gets humor and serious - hard to do with me because I do both. A number of features were pointed out there, and you have elaborated on them, given more and the information I need now. That was really neat info just about the pedals. You're awesome! I would still like to at least sit on a Vulcan S, just to feel it; same with the Rebel 500, but since I have sat on the Eliminator and it feels right, I’m thinking I might stop shopping now. It would be more to “eliminate” those others, than to buy one. You really sold me on that dash and Bluetooth, plus at my age, I really need ABS. Nick pointed that out as well, but I didn’t realize how much better it was over the Vulcan, since they didn’t have one to compare. You also explained why the dash was off-side; I had always wondered why they did that and thank you for telling me. I would have wondered about that until my last day, so thank you again for restoring my sanity. I swear dude, I could not figure that out. The orange is rather striking, but I actually like the color, although it wouldn’t have been my first choice. Florida Gators wouldn’t mean much anywhere else, but I’m a fan. I do think it is easier to see. I wasn’t aware of the weight or size difference, until you pointed it out. 100 pounds is 2/3 of my weight. I’d rather have the smaller bike that has a little larger HP than I believe the 400 engine that was expected when you did the Vulcan S video, and talked about this one coming soon. Not only that, you described why this engine was different and showed me with your hands. I mean, you gave me so much information I didn’t know existed and you, my friend, are the reason I’m going to buy this bike, notwithstanding the work Nick did before I saw it. I did tell him I thought I liked it best before I left today, you solidified it and now I don’t have to drive to Cocoa Beach! I’m not in a rush and I’m glad I’m not being rushed, so that makes it a good experience. It takes a lot of work to make a video, edit it and make it look easy and I have not taken that for granted. I’m sharing my story because I appreciate the information you gave me; it made a big difference to me and I wanted you to know how important that is. I’m not really concerned what other people think of me, because I’m not writing to them. I’m going back to the dealer tomorrow and you have a huge part in that. You could not do what you do if you didn't care, so I want you to know it is appreciated. My work here was easy, but I watch TH-cam on my TV. Why wouldn’t I, the screen is big-ass? It would be illogical to watch you on a laptop or phone. So this is what I had to do. I had to get up from the sofa that was so soft and comfortable to get my laptop. Open up and turn on, then I had to open a browser and go to TH-cam and find your video through my history tab. After that, well, here ya go. I admit, a small thing in comparison, yet sincere. Now guess what? Yep, that’s right. I’m going back to the sofa that’s calling me and I’m going to continue to watch some of your videos on TV, since I am a subscriber now. Oh, sure, of course I will. I’ll get that update to ya after I get my bike and settle in a bit. So, how was your day? Regards, Jonny
Hey user! Thanks for the complement and greetings from Florida USA! I'm quite fond of people who help me and show interest in things I am passionate about. Just gives me an excuse to drop a few lines and speak my mind for a bit. This particular video was extremely helpful in my decision process, therefore I was compelled to say something about it. Glad you enjoyed the read. I sure hope I get to Scotland one day.@@user-Rockscorpion
@@user-Rockscorpion Hey Rock! I appreciate you writing me from all the way over there; needless to say where I am, and I am a Scorpio too. Great thing is, I was already on my laptop, so I didn't have to even move like I did when I wrote Peter. Best wishes from Florida and latha math mate!
Peter thanks for your review 🙏 I watch thousands of different reviews , your reviews according to my humble opinion is the best in the world ! Thanks 🙏
New rider here, and I've been bouncing between the Vulcan S and the Eliminator. These videos have helped me a TON to help me make a choice. While I think I like the styling of the Vulcan S more, I feel like the Eliminator will be a better suited beginner ride, especially with ABS coming standard. Thank you!
I have ridden both and the Eliminator is by far the better starter bike because the mid controls will give you a lot of confidence vs the forward controls. I would only recommend the vulcan if the person is 6ft or taller.
It's so wired I both hate the way the rear shocks are cut into the rear fender but I love it so much because it's so different. I really really like the new Eliminator SE . 💯✌🤟🤘
Great review of the new '24 Eliminator 500SE, thanks! Looks cool and could even pass for a standard/naked style bike IMO in styling and pegs. I like the orange and black combo.
The only issue with the styling bit is that the rear portion looks a little too cramped, looks cut shortened and pushed in from behind. A little longer swingarm would have made it look perfect.
Me too. I went over a comparison and why I decided on this one, if you care to view it somewhere down there. It's too long to repeat, but I was also looking at the Rebel. I haven't sat on a Rebel 500, but I have an Eliminator and it felt "right".
@@morrisdennis Great! Since that last post, I went through my MSF course and to remind you, I'd never been on a Rebel. I ended up training on a Nighthawk, but I did finally sit on a Rebel, but did not ride it. I'm not sure how much it resembles the 500, but this was a 250 (234cc). Oh no, this just won't do at all, and not the engine. From having just sat on an Eliminator I wanted last, and even the Honda Nighthawk 250 I was riding. There were only two Nighthawks and the two of us with some experience got those. I don't know why, they felt easier to maneuver just sitting on them than the Rebel did. It was like sitting way down on something; kinda strange and I'm not totally new to bikes. It felt horrible in comparison to that of the Elimator, and even the 2023 Scrambler 500 I tried once felt just not right. I know that's not fair to earlier compare a Kawasaki 451cc with a Honda 234cc; it's the fit that counts for me (I'm 5', 11", 150#). The Rebel pegs were crazy stretched with the gas tank in lift-off angle, but still knew that bike wasn't for me in any size, less control and comfort. I don't want my legs stretched out when I'm riding, plus the Eliminator is adjustable, so you make it for you. I'm a street rider, but not a "cruiser", if that makes sense. I guess the Rebel is trying to be a cruiser, and the Eliminator is built off of the Ninja 400 engine so it's a sport cruiser I guess. I'd take it on a smooth trail, but I wouldn't take a Rebel on one. Canyon roads and unnecessary high speeds are of no interest to me. I like to moo back at the cows I pass. My choice of the 2024 Eliminator SE MSRP is $7,250, comes only in orange trim (which you hate till you love it) with ABS, Bluetooth, USB-C, and here, about $6,600 (real number) in December will get you one, if they don't raise freight to make that only seem like a discount (and they will). MSRP of a 2024 Rebel 500 is $6,500 (I don't know what discount you might get - say $6,000?). Change your own oil, clean your own chain, save $400. Have a problem? Take it to a motorcycle repair shop, not someone who sells them. Don't finance service and get full insurance coverage.
man, I ALMOST bought this, but I chose the Rebel 1100 instead. Only thing that really made me lean Rebel was the extra one inch seat height made a difference in how I sat. Otherwise, i would have picked the Eliminator up in a heart beat.
Can you comment on maintenance costs of the eliminator or z400 to the triumph speed 400? I love the looks of the triumph and I think it’s better for a 54yr old, but I have read that maintenance is very expensive per visit on the triumph, if not more frequent as well.
I'm not knowledgeable enough on the maintenance costs of the Triumph to have a valid opinion. My guess would be that over the life of the bike, a Kawasaki would be more reasonable, but I don't have data on hand to back up my opinion.
it's less risky putting the new engine on this bike because if it flops or has problems, they can drop it or get the bugs out. that said, your question made me ponder the possibility that this engine might replace the 400 ninja and z400 engine. they'll just tune it for the higher end. it's just a guess.
After watching this video this bike looks good but lam glad i bought the Vulcan s. The 650s is a very nice performance bike all around good power and comfort
It sounds like the Eliminator also has those qualities. What was it that made you glad you chose the Vulcan S? More specific than general if you would, because I was comparing them.
@@floridaredneckbeen riding the 650s now for 14 months with no issues.gave it the first oil and filter change my self, it was very easy.the Vulcan has more hp then bikes that are larger with very good low to mid torque.the bike is comfortable and reliable it has the rego system that will accommodate any rider according to height.i am 70 and it's just right for me
When you say you're 70, I assume you mean inches. The oil change is good to do, I'd assume it would be easy for the Eliminator as well. I agree with you on the HP and that is something to be considered. The height/comfort system is good, if you need to change it; in my case, I don't. It being "just right" for you is the answer and it's really the only answer for me. I felt that way when I sat on the Eliminator, so I get that. I have not had the pleasure of sitting on the Vulcan yet, but I'd like to.@@carlostrujillo4750
Interesting, I thought the Eliminator was only 450? Didnt know they made a 500, will probably be my first bike 😊Great job on the review sir, thank you for the video.
I initially wondered that also. I think it was expected to be that way, but when they lengthened the piston and I think widened the cylinder (don't quote me), that's where the extra power comes from. It made a difference in my decision to get one.
Versys 650? Vulcan 650? Those are two worth trying depending on what style you like. At your height, there are still a lot of bikes that will fit you, but most are built around people shorter than you, so a real key for you is going to be to try to sit on a number of bikes until you find ones that you feel comfortable on. Once you do that, then I'd stay around 650 or so CC's. Most 6'5" are also heavier than a 5'5" people, so it wouldn't be a problem to get a little extra power.
I ride a Z900RS SE with no windshield. I find it really isn't an issue in any way until I'm over 100 km/h (62 mph). At that point, you do feel some wind pushing you back. However I could ride all day without a windshield. Sometimes windshields can be noisier than no windshield as it can mess up the air flow as it hits your helmet. In general I find no windshield to be quietest, but a windshield does relieve pressure on the rider at high speeds. I'm sure you can get windshields as accessories if that's what you want on this bike.
I'm debating between the Eliminator and the Triumph Speed 400. The Speed is much less expensive, but it is also a single cylinder bike. The Eliminator reminds me of a Honda VLX (600cc) bike I owned years ago. It was one of the most fun bikes to ride I ever owned. I like the smaller light weight bikes. I've owned many bikes since 1967, mostly Japanese models and four Harleys. I will NEVER oen another Harley. I like the foot position on the Eliminator and I like the quick revving engine. What I don't like is the muffler is in the way of removing the rear axle. I usually ride 15,000 miles a year and due to that I change a lot of tires. On the Eliminator it looks like I'd have to remove the muffler to get to the axle. I know this is a small thing, but I look at things like this. I still have to decide, the Eliminator, or the Speed 400. It's a hard choice to make. Thanks for the review. RIde safe and enjoy every journey.
Well, I did it. I bought a 2024 Kawasaki Eliminator SE and I LOVE it. The Eliminator does every thing I want in a motorcycle. It is light weight and easy to flick around, it is quick and revs freely, no more chug chug chug of a V-twin, it corners great and can cruise at 80 mph all day long. What else could a person want from a motorcycle.... of any size??? Plus it gets 65-66 mpg and the insurance is only $148 a year for full coverage. My last Harley got 35 mpg and the insurance was $800 a year. I chose the Eliminator over the Vulcan S because the deal I got was $1800 less than the Vulcan S and the Eliminator comes with the passenger seat and pegs. I commented early about the muffler being in the way of removing the rear axle, but the Eliminator's axle goes in from the left side so I can remove the axle without removing the muffler. I can't find one thing about the Eliminator SE I do not like, it is a great bike. I did add a windchield but it deflected all the wind right to my ears, so I removed it. I did change the front spocket from a 14 tooth to a 15 tooth to lower the rpm's a little at highway speeds. (lowered about 500 rpm at highway speeds) And I added a Kawasaki rear carrier and a Givi 29 liter topcase so I can haul things. The Kawasaki Eliminator SE, a great bike that can do it all, LET THE GOOD TIMES ROLL.
I don't know if it requires 93 but I know that my bike says that it requires 90. I think I've seen that on most Kawasaki bike's that are high revving, so I would assume that it's at least 90 or maybe 91. I don't think you would need 93
I don't know the max capacity off the top of my head. Your weight isn't a concern, but I would think that you might want to look at something like the Vulcan S or another option if you regularly take a passenger. To me, this bike is great for a single rider to do just about anything they want a cruiser to do, but by modern standards, it's still not a big bike so you may want with a bit more torque if you regularly take two people. Having said all that, I'm speaking with a North American bias, because in several parts of the world, a 450 is a big bike, and can handle two people no problem.
Not even the manual states the maximum weight, it must be around 200 kg. I have a Scooter (Honda ADV 150) that can carry 180 kg. And an Africa Twin that can carry 218 kg
I'm really between this and the honda scl500 as my first bike, I'm wondering if this is a better option with the seat height though as I'm short at 5'7"
It’s called Eliminator 450, not 500. I’m really short at just 5’1” and I sat on one. It is so comfortable for me. I have a BMW F750 GS now which I love in most ways, but since I primarily commute on it I think downsizing to this would be good. Cost of ownership would be lower but with still plenty of power. I have a couple of others on my short list too. We’ll see …
450 or 500? I read that the difference from the Ninja 400 is the 6.8mm longer stroke that bumps displacement from 399cc to 451cc. It appears that when you get close to a number, 399=400, unless your are in the middle over 50, where 451=500, unless it's Tuesday, except after 6pm. So, there could be a number of reasons why 450 is really 500, or why 500 really is 450. Now I'm toast.
Curious… is the “500SE” tag a marketing thing? I’m just seeing “SE” and Standard and if any numbers given,, it’s 450. I’m curious if they’re positioning this more toe to toe with the Rebel 500. Which is also a 450. So in my book, calling it a 450 has more credibility.
They are certainly not conservative with their estimates. This one was explained, but still it's not 500. Wish we could do this with money. I'll give you $451 for $500. Deal? Okay, I'll give you $471....lol @@bulbakip6380
Great. Now give us a 900 4 cyl. to step up to. I get the starter bike thing but if you're gonna put the Eliminator tag on it let's have a machine that will do the quarter in the tens. Eliminators should eliminate like my old 85 did.
If they would have powder coasted the frame to match the orange color on the SE I would be very interested. They fell short in making this one Special.
I don't think they were trying to make it exceptionally special. I think they did a great job of making a competitive bike in the class for the mass market. Time will tell if the larger market will support a bike like this, but I do think it's a great bike in this class.
Style? Emissions regulations? I don't think Kawasaki can win. People complain about the Vulcan S not having a side pipe as well. I have to admit, I think this bike looks WAY better in person than it does in pictures or in video. Thanks for watching!
Buy the Vulcan S, get it discounted for the same amount as the list price they will charge you for this one. Yes, less style but also yes, it will ELIMINATE this Eliminator, even if it weighs in 100 lbs more.
I'm not sure that you need much more suspension travel on a bike like this. I don't think people will be bottoming this out, especially riding solo. It's not like you'll be taking this off road, or jumping it.
In Canada they're not the same price. And to be fair, the Vulcan has been running on the 650 platform for a while. It's 200cc's more engine, but less technology and a very different seating position. Wishing for a 750 Vulcan S would likely dial up the price of that model, but not add anything more that Vulcan S buyers want. I don't hear Vulcan S buyers tell me that they want a heavier but faster engine. They seem content with the bike as is.
You'll also want to avoid the Z900 which is actually a 948cc or a Ninja 1000 which is actually a 1043cc... believe me, I can go on and on. Would it bother you to hear that Honda's 500 makes less horsepower than Kawasaki's 451? Because that's also the case. It's just a name, you may want it to be a description of the engine, but it isn't that anymore for many manufacturers. They're simply names to place vehicles in certain classes.
@@PeterLoweOnethe eliminator is being advertised as bigger than in actuality whereas it's the opposite for the bikes you mentioned is the difference I believe
The 85 was called a "muscle cruiser" but it also had a standard peg position and short bars. I loved it. I can't stand forward pegs. I don't feel in control.
You should definitely listen to every video I've ever made. It'll sound better, or it won't. But thanks so much for the constructive comment. I'll be sure to do better on the next one. Maybe a Kermit the Frog voice?
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I decided to get back into riding after a 15 year break and picked up this bike. This is technically my 3rd bike. My original goal was to get used to riding and upgrade to something bigger, but I just can’t find something I like better. I’ve put 2,500+ miles on this in 2 months driving to work or anywhere else I have an excuse for. It gets great mileage, is ideal for urban commutes, and has zero issues passing traffic on the highway. Unfortunately, I can see the second hand market for these mays struggle because if anyone fells the same way as I do they’ll never sell this bike. Kudos to you Kawasaki.
I’ve had my 24 SE ABS since May 2024 and put over 1400 miles on it already. I love it! It’s comfortable, quick and fun. Love being able to throw it around easily and it takes the curves like a sport bike 🤘🏻
As someone not interested in traditional cruisers, this is really appealing. Better seating position, lighter weight, and z400 modified engine. Thanks for showing!
I'm the same way. This is now easily my favourite cruiser.
I am in love with the bike just like this new review! The first thing I did was put mirror extensions on it as the reviewer is correct I could not see well behind me. I also added a pigtail for my battery tender, and a usb charger port on the handlebar. I have the same phone mount as the reviewer and works great especially with the offset speedo. almost bought the Vulcan S but I knew as soon as I test rode this it was the bike for me! I rode a lot of different type bikes throughout the years and this is by far the most enjoyable! 400 miles so far and have not even gotten close to redline. The power is incredible! 73yo here!!
@@3Kayaks-q6rI see some folks complaigning about the Eliminator not being 750cc & whatever... Well after riding a few other bikes i can say that a 388lb low-slung sporty cruiser with 52hp sounds mighty fine as an everyday rider.
I have owned a gray ABS model now for a week in the U.S. and can say I originally was going to buy a Vulcan S. This bike just felt more comfortable to ride. Still in break in period but I can say it has all the power you would ever want. Some say they do not like the sound but I will take it all day long as I do not have to wear ear plugs!
I have the same exact bike and feel the same way. I love that it's not loud.
I used to own a ninja and was thinking I should go to the Z400 because I'm getting older, but this one screams my name. How are you liking it after a month?
Me too; love a softer sound. Don't these loud bikers have neighbors? @@beeelcee
Been riding a naked bike for more than 3yrs. This styling leans to me more for the comfort mostly.
Did you get through the break in an get a top speed? 😅 wondering if it’s faster than the rebel 👀
I bought mine 5 weeks ago and it already has 1200 miles on it...I LOVE it!
I have this exact bike. Im 5'4 and its perfect. Its not too tall, its not too heavy and it is fast! I absolutely love it ❤❤❤
Awesome! Thanks for sharing!
I was worried about being short and getting this bike (I'm also 5'4) I'm glad that isn't an issue! I'm really digging this bike. Everyone seems to be saying good things about it
I went to the dealer today and saw the bike in person, great looking standard style bike.
I love that you say this bike is for everybody
100% going to be my first motorcycle thanks for the great review
I'm looking for my 1st bike. And I saw this one last night.
And as a short, old lady... I think this bike is cute.
I think I'm going to get it.
Great choice! Enjoy it!
I like how you go into great detail, really enjoyed every minute of it ......Great video Peter
I've road nothing but dual sports and Dirtbikes, so that seating position looks great to me. I've rode on big cruisers and couldn't get used to having my feet that far in front of me. My buddies say I'm crazy and it's way comfortable.
I just don't feel like I have as much control of the bike as I'd like. Especially since I've been squeezing tanks with my knees my whole life.
These mid pegs are far different than forward ones , I have old LS650 so I know mid pegs , it's very comfy and you can force yourself off the seat for bumps if needed. I also have a crf250L rally .
Same! Better control with my feet under me
Thank you for changing my life. I sat on this exact Eliminator 500 (450?) SE today. I tried a Honda SCL500 and even an R.E. Scram, but only because that one was marked down to $4,000 (but not my style). I had thought I was going to get a Vulcan S, over a Rebel 500, neither of which I have sat on. I read I would tire of the Rebel (power) and wish I had the Vulcan S, but now after seeing your previous video on the Vulcan and now on the Eliminator (as you promised), I have to say, the Eliminator felt great (5’,11”, 150#). I sat on a Rebel 1100 ($11,200) and it was a monster to me. The price of the Eliminator is $7,250 before dealer fees (Update: $9,000 OTD) and they seem anxious to sell it. You need know, this will be my forever bike. I will not replace it ever; my decision will be final.
I’m not interested in speed, but I was concerned about being run over on the interstate, even if just a few miles, so it must do 80 MPH. I’m in a more rural part of central FL (Lakeland) and I just want something to run around town in and have fun; nothing to drive long miles on; I have a car for that. Maybe Tampa one way, or Orlando on the other, but those are less than an hour. I don’t even want bags and I’d prefer to remove the back seat if it wouldn’t leave a mark, because I’d never use it. I wouldn’t let someone sit on the back of a moving motorcycle for anything, and nothing could change my opinion.
Since I’m a small guy, you’ve convinced me I’d be happier with the Eliminator (not over time - just this minute). I tried a Honda SCL500 ($6,800 - 419lbs) and it didn’t “fit” like the Eliminator does. The seat on the Honda felt not right between my thighs and I didn’t like that at all (banana style seat or whatever it is). I know you’re not asking but if it helps anyone, the Eliminator fits my “gear” better than any other I’ve tried and the gas tank is sleek in style and doesn’t make me spread my legs and smash my nutts as the others do.
I was going tomorrow to see a Vulcan S (pre-owned 2021 - $6,500) at Sky Powersports in Cocoa Beach, about 100 miles from me, but the guy at the dealership here has the patience and personality that someone like me requires and I'm thinking the price difference isn't enough not to buy a new one. This guy Nick with Fun Bike Center Motorsports I'd never been to was easy to talk to and didn’t come across as the salesman that he is, so we understand each other and I need local service. When I got there, I told him I was not shopping for a bike, but a place to buy one; those two are separate (well kinda). It appears he is on the level I need to work with. He gets humor and serious - hard to do with me because I do both. A number of features were pointed out there, and you have elaborated on them, given more and the information I need now. That was really neat info just about the pedals. You're awesome!
I would still like to at least sit on a Vulcan S, just to feel it; same with the Rebel 500, but since I have sat on the Eliminator and it feels right, I’m thinking I might stop shopping now. It would be more to “eliminate” those others, than to buy one. You really sold me on that dash and Bluetooth, plus at my age, I really need ABS. Nick pointed that out as well, but I didn’t realize how much better it was over the Vulcan, since they didn’t have one to compare. You also explained why the dash was off-side; I had always wondered why they did that and thank you for telling me. I would have wondered about that until my last day, so thank you again for restoring my sanity. I swear dude, I could not figure that out.
The orange is rather striking, but I actually like the color, although it wouldn’t have been my first choice. Florida Gators wouldn’t mean much anywhere else, but I’m a fan. I do think it is easier to see. I wasn’t aware of the weight or size difference, until you pointed it out. 100 pounds is 2/3 of my weight. I’d rather have the smaller bike that has a little larger HP than I believe the 400 engine that was expected when you did the Vulcan S video, and talked about this one coming soon. Not only that, you described why this engine was different and showed me with your hands. I mean, you gave me so much information I didn’t know existed and you, my friend, are the reason I’m going to buy this bike, notwithstanding the work Nick did before I saw it. I did tell him I thought I liked it best before I left today, you solidified it and now I don’t have to drive to Cocoa Beach! I’m not in a rush and I’m glad I’m not being rushed, so that makes it a good experience.
It takes a lot of work to make a video, edit it and make it look easy and I have not taken that for granted. I’m sharing my story because I appreciate the information you gave me; it made a big difference to me and I wanted you to know how important that is. I’m not really concerned what other people think of me, because I’m not writing to them. I’m going back to the dealer tomorrow and you have a huge part in that. You could not do what you do if you didn't care, so I want you to know it is appreciated.
My work here was easy, but I watch TH-cam on my TV. Why wouldn’t I, the screen is big-ass? It would be illogical to watch you on a laptop or phone. So this is what I had to do. I had to get up from the sofa that was so soft and comfortable to get my laptop. Open up and turn on, then I had to open a browser and go to TH-cam and find your video through my history tab. After that, well, here ya go. I admit, a small thing in comparison, yet sincere.
Now guess what? Yep, that’s right. I’m going back to the sofa that’s calling me and I’m going to continue to watch some of your videos on TV, since I am a subscriber now. Oh, sure, of course I will. I’ll get that update to ya after I get my bike and settle in a bit.
So, how was your day?
Regards, Jonny
How was my day? Great! Thanks for sharing your experiences, and thanks for subscribing!
Hey Jonny, I really enjoyed reading your reply to Peter,
Greetings from Scotland
Hey user! Thanks for the complement and greetings from Florida USA! I'm quite fond of people who help me and show interest in things I am passionate about. Just gives me an excuse to drop a few lines and speak my mind for a bit. This particular video was extremely helpful in my decision process, therefore I was compelled to say something about it. Glad you enjoyed the read. I sure hope I get to Scotland one day.@@user-Rockscorpion
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@@user-Rockscorpion Hey Rock! I appreciate you writing me from all the way over there; needless to say where I am, and I am a Scorpio too. Great thing is, I was already on my laptop, so I didn't have to even move like I did when I wrote Peter. Best wishes from Florida and latha math mate!
Peter thanks for your review 🙏 I watch thousands of different reviews , your reviews according to my humble opinion is the best in the world ! Thanks 🙏
Thanks for your kind words!
New rider here, and I've been bouncing between the Vulcan S and the Eliminator. These videos have helped me a TON to help me make a choice. While I think I like the styling of the Vulcan S more, I feel like the Eliminator will be a better suited beginner ride, especially with ABS coming standard. Thank you!
I'm hoping to have a direct comparison between these two soon.
I have ridden both and the Eliminator is by far the better starter bike because the mid controls will give you a lot of confidence vs the forward controls. I would only recommend the vulcan if the person is 6ft or taller.
@@spartanx169x good, because I just bought the Eliminator last week. It's been a blast to ride. Comfortable and controls well
Argh. Just when I had my list down to a couple of bikes for my first, you went and added another one to the mix 😂😂
Now I don't feel bad. Same thing happened to me.
It's so wired I both hate the way the rear shocks are cut into the rear fender but I love it so much because it's so different. I really really like the new Eliminator SE . 💯✌🤟🤘
I agree, but it keeps tge shocks in tight, good for bag systems, imo
Great review of the new '24 Eliminator 500SE, thanks! Looks cool and could even pass for a standard/naked style bike IMO in styling and pegs. I like the orange and black combo.
Would love to see a comparison between this and the Rebel 500 since they are fighting for the same market
Rebel 500 for the old dudes just looking for an easy town hopper. The Eliminator for first time riders looking for something to get hooked.
First time middle aged dude with nothing to prove looking for a great starter ride for short weekend rides
I want a 650 270 degree crank version. I will absolutely buy one.
That reminds me of an old Honda I used to have. It had an electric starter (once), but forgot why never used it. Love cranking one up!
The only issue with the styling bit is that the rear portion looks a little too cramped, looks cut shortened and pushed in from behind. A little longer swingarm would have made it look perfect.
Highly considering this over the rebel 500
Me too. I went over a comparison and why I decided on this one, if you care to view it somewhere down there. It's too long to repeat, but I was also looking at the Rebel. I haven't sat on a Rebel 500, but I have an Eliminator and it felt "right".
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@@morrisdennis Great! Since that last post, I went through my MSF course and to remind you, I'd never been on a Rebel. I ended up training on a Nighthawk, but I did finally sit on a Rebel, but did not ride it. I'm not sure how much it resembles the 500, but this was a 250 (234cc). Oh no, this just won't do at all, and not the engine. From having just sat on an Eliminator I wanted last, and even the Honda Nighthawk 250 I was riding. There were only two Nighthawks and the two of us with some experience got those. I don't know why, they felt easier to maneuver just sitting on them than the Rebel did. It was like sitting way down on something; kinda strange and I'm not totally new to bikes.
It felt horrible in comparison to that of the Elimator, and even the 2023 Scrambler 500 I tried once felt just not right. I know that's not fair to earlier compare a Kawasaki 451cc with a Honda 234cc; it's the fit that counts for me (I'm 5', 11", 150#). The Rebel pegs were crazy stretched with the gas tank in lift-off angle, but still knew that bike wasn't for me in any size, less control and comfort. I don't want my legs stretched out when I'm riding, plus the Eliminator is adjustable, so you make it for you.
I'm a street rider, but not a "cruiser", if that makes sense. I guess the Rebel is trying to be a cruiser, and the Eliminator is built off of the Ninja 400 engine so it's a sport cruiser I guess. I'd take it on a smooth trail, but I wouldn't take a Rebel on one. Canyon roads and unnecessary high speeds are of no interest to me. I like to moo back at the cows I pass.
My choice of the 2024 Eliminator SE MSRP is $7,250, comes only in orange trim (which you hate till you love it) with ABS, Bluetooth, USB-C, and here, about $6,600 (real number) in December will get you one, if they don't raise freight to make that only seem like a discount (and they will). MSRP of a 2024 Rebel 500 is $6,500 (I don't know what discount you might get - say $6,000?).
Change your own oil, clean your own chain, save $400. Have a problem? Take it to a motorcycle repair shop, not someone who sells them. Don't finance service and get full insurance coverage.
man, I ALMOST bought this, but I chose the Rebel 1100 instead. Only thing that really made me lean Rebel was the extra one inch seat height made a difference in how I sat. Otherwise, i would have picked the Eliminator up in a heart beat.
You prefer the lower seat of the rebel?
I read that Kawasaki offers a lower and higher seat option
Very informative video. Great Job my man 👏
Can you comment on maintenance costs of the eliminator or z400 to the triumph speed 400? I love the looks of the triumph and I think it’s better for a 54yr old, but I have read that maintenance is very expensive per visit on the triumph, if not more frequent as well.
I'm not knowledgeable enough on the maintenance costs of the Triumph to have a valid opinion. My guess would be that over the life of the bike, a Kawasaki would be more reasonable, but I don't have data on hand to back up my opinion.
I sat on one of these and am looking for a 650, probably Tiger Sport 660 or Aprilia Tuono 660, but this bike is just so kool.
The Eliminator is very comfortable
I fell in love with it and did not expect to. I went in for something different, but I chose this one.@@judge831
it's less risky putting the new engine on this bike because if it flops or has problems, they can drop it or get the bugs out. that said, your question made me ponder the possibility that this engine might replace the 400 ninja and z400 engine. they'll just tune it for the higher end. it's just a guess.
You have just made want to go check this bike out for real.
It's pretty cool!
After watching this video this bike looks good but lam glad i bought the Vulcan s. The 650s is a very nice performance bike all around good power and comfort
Can't go wrong with that bike, for sure!
It sounds like the Eliminator also has those qualities. What was it that made you glad you chose the Vulcan S? More specific than general if you would, because I was comparing them.
@@floridaredneckbeen riding the 650s now for 14 months with no issues.gave it the first oil and filter change my self, it was very easy.the Vulcan has more hp then bikes that are larger with very good low to mid torque.the bike is comfortable and reliable it has the rego system that will accommodate any rider according to height.i am 70 and it's just right for me
When you say you're 70, I assume you mean inches. The oil change is good to do, I'd assume it would be easy for the Eliminator as well. I agree with you on the HP and that is something to be considered. The height/comfort system is good, if you need to change it; in my case, I don't. It being "just right" for you is the answer and it's really the only answer for me. I felt that way when I sat on the Eliminator, so I get that. I have not had the pleasure of sitting on the Vulcan yet, but I'd like to.@@carlostrujillo4750
@@PeterLoweOneit's not a 500. It's a 450 .
The most informative video out there on the Eliminator 450 by Kawasaki!!!!! Ty!!!
Thanks for watching!
Interesting, I thought the Eliminator was only 450? Didnt know they made a 500, will probably be my first bike 😊Great job on the review sir, thank you for the video.
I do explain in the video why it's called the 500.
I initially wondered that also. I think it was expected to be that way, but when they lengthened the piston and I think widened the cylinder (don't quote me), that's where the extra power comes from. It made a difference in my decision to get one.
I love it. I want one!
I am a 6’ 5” beginner looking for a good first bike do u have a suggestion
Versys 650? Vulcan 650? Those are two worth trying depending on what style you like. At your height, there are still a lot of bikes that will fit you, but most are built around people shorter than you, so a real key for you is going to be to try to sit on a number of bikes until you find ones that you feel comfortable on. Once you do that, then I'd stay around 650 or so CC's. Most 6'5" are also heavier than a 5'5" people, so it wouldn't be a problem to get a little extra power.
Is the clutch soft and easy enough to pull considering i have amputated hands on my lefty, with having only 1 pinky and 1 thumb..
It's a slipper and assist clutch, so it's definitely among the lightest clutch pulls in the industry.
How is the wind resistance on a highway with this motorcycle since it does not have a windshield
I ride a Z900RS SE with no windshield. I find it really isn't an issue in any way until I'm over 100 km/h (62 mph). At that point, you do feel some wind pushing you back. However I could ride all day without a windshield. Sometimes windshields can be noisier than no windshield as it can mess up the air flow as it hits your helmet. In general I find no windshield to be quietest, but a windshield does relieve pressure on the rider at high speeds. I'm sure you can get windshields as accessories if that's what you want on this bike.
I saw one and paid no nevermind because I was busy test riding a 650 but maybe it's better than I thought ! I thought the price was kinda high ..
I'll have a comparison of this with the Vulcan S (650) soon and I'll talk about price.
I found the Versys 650 boring and nanny state "toned down" @@PeterLoweOne
you prefer this over rebel 500? great video! (new rider here looking for 1st bike)
I do. Try them both, but this would be my choice.
Peter, I loved your review
It looks really good nice review
Thanks for watching!
I'm debating between the Eliminator and the Triumph Speed 400. The Speed is much less expensive, but it is also a single cylinder bike. The Eliminator reminds me of a Honda VLX (600cc) bike I owned years ago. It was one of the most fun bikes to ride I ever owned. I like the smaller light weight bikes. I've owned many bikes since 1967, mostly Japanese models and four Harleys. I will NEVER oen another Harley.
I like the foot position on the Eliminator and I like the quick revving engine. What I don't like is the muffler is in the way of removing the rear axle. I usually ride 15,000 miles a year and due to that I change a lot of tires. On the Eliminator it looks like I'd have to remove the muffler to get to the axle. I know this is a small thing, but I look at things like this.
I still have to decide, the Eliminator, or the Speed 400. It's a hard choice to make.
Thanks for the review. RIde safe and enjoy every journey.
Well, I did it. I bought a 2024 Kawasaki Eliminator SE and I LOVE it. The Eliminator does every thing I want in a motorcycle. It is light weight and easy to flick around, it is quick and revs freely, no more chug chug chug of a V-twin, it corners great and can cruise at 80 mph all day long. What else could a person want from a motorcycle.... of any size???
Plus it gets 65-66 mpg and the insurance is only $148 a year for full coverage. My last Harley got 35 mpg and the insurance was $800 a year.
I chose the Eliminator over the Vulcan S because the deal I got was $1800 less than the Vulcan S and the Eliminator comes with the passenger seat and pegs.
I commented early about the muffler being in the way of removing the rear axle, but the Eliminator's axle goes in from the left side so I can remove the axle without removing the muffler. I can't find one thing about the Eliminator SE I do not like, it is a great bike.
I did add a windchield but it deflected all the wind right to my ears, so I removed it. I did change the front spocket from a 14 tooth to a 15 tooth to lower the rpm's a little at highway speeds. (lowered about 500 rpm at highway speeds) And I added a Kawasaki rear carrier and a Givi 29 liter topcase so I can haul things.
The Kawasaki Eliminator SE, a great bike that can do it all, LET THE GOOD TIMES ROLL.
I think that I read somewhere that the eliminator has a 13 to 1 compression engine. Does that mean that it requires premium gasoline? 93 octane?
I don't know if it requires 93 but I know that my bike says that it requires 90. I think I've seen that on most Kawasaki bike's that are high revving, so I would assume that it's at least 90 or maybe 91. I don't think you would need 93
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Ground clearance is 150mm..are there any problems during curving/cornering? Or doing low speed manouvres?
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Nice little cruiser!!! Do you now the maximum load weight ? Asking because I am 110kg and with a passenger.....? Thank you :)
I don't know the max capacity off the top of my head. Your weight isn't a concern, but I would think that you might want to look at something like the Vulcan S or another option if you regularly take a passenger. To me, this bike is great for a single rider to do just about anything they want a cruiser to do, but by modern standards, it's still not a big bike so you may want with a bit more torque if you regularly take two people. Having said all that, I'm speaking with a North American bias, because in several parts of the world, a 450 is a big bike, and can handle two people no problem.
Not even the manual states the maximum weight, it must be around 200 kg. I have a Scooter (Honda ADV 150) that can carry 180 kg. And an Africa Twin that can carry 218 kg
I'm really between this and the honda scl500 as my first bike, I'm wondering if this is a better option with the seat height though as I'm short at 5'7"
Great job!
Liked review. He missed the usb- c plug in on right side of bars.
It’s called Eliminator 450, not 500.
I’m really short at just 5’1” and I sat on one. It is so comfortable for me. I have a BMW F750 GS now which I love in most ways, but since I primarily commute on it I think downsizing to this would be good. Cost of ownership would be lower but with still plenty of power. I have a couple of others on my short list too. We’ll see …
It's called the Eliminator 500 in Canada. I didn't make it up for the video. Check it out at www.kawasaki.ca
Also here in Denmark it's called the Kawasaki 500.
@@PeterLoweOneLook at you getting all snarky like a teenage girl
US kawasaki website just calls it the eliminator with no number after it
450 or 500? I read that the difference from the Ninja 400 is the 6.8mm longer stroke that bumps displacement from 399cc to 451cc. It appears that when you get close to a number, 399=400, unless your are in the middle over 50, where 451=500, unless it's Tuesday, except after 6pm. So, there could be a number of reasons why 450 is really 500, or why 500 really is 450. Now I'm toast.
What is the top speed compared to the vulcan s?
Curious… is the “500SE” tag a marketing thing? I’m just seeing “SE” and Standard and if any numbers given,, it’s 450. I’m curious if they’re positioning this more toe to toe with the Rebel 500. Which is also a 450. So in my book, calling it a 450 has more credibility.
I agree. This is 451 and rebel is 471. Neither are 500, which is fine but now idk what this bike is called lol 400 450 500?
They are certainly not conservative with their estimates. This one was explained, but still it's not 500. Wish we could do this with money. I'll give you $451 for $500. Deal? Okay, I'll give you $471....lol @@bulbakip6380
Great. Now give us a 900 4 cyl. to step up to. I get the starter bike thing but if you're gonna put the Eliminator tag on it let's have a machine that will do the quarter in the tens. Eliminators should eliminate like my old 85 did.
can someone give me the exact width of the passenger seat?
That bike 🏍 is sweet love ❤️ it
Sorry if they get it back up to a 900 then I'll be interested. Had the 85 model so these look like toys
If they would have powder coasted the frame to match the orange color on the SE I would be very interested. They fell short in making this one Special.
I don't think they were trying to make it exceptionally special. I think they did a great job of making a competitive bike in the class for the mass market. Time will tell if the larger market will support a bike like this, but I do think it's a great bike in this class.
@@PeterLoweOne the engine is what many are looking at. A versys 450 to replace the x300 would be great as long as they can keep the weight down.
What is with the giant suitcase sized mufflers that motorcycle manufacturers seem to be so fond of these days?
IKR , makes no sense at all .
Style? Emissions regulations? I don't think Kawasaki can win. People complain about the Vulcan S not having a side pipe as well. I have to admit, I think this bike looks WAY better in person than it does in pictures or in video. Thanks for watching!
@@PeterLoweOne It's not just Kawasaki, Honda's doing it also.
Harley should have worked on and released a similar spec bike.
I think for $500 more I'd go for the SV 650
Completely different bike. I'm a fan of both for totally different reasons.
RE Super Meteor 650?
It's not Japanese quality.
Nice 😮
Buy the Vulcan S, get it discounted for the same amount as the list price they will charge you for this one. Yes, less style but also yes, it will ELIMINATE this Eliminator, even if it weighs in 100 lbs more.
Here in America, we have the Eliminator 450cc. Your 500 version must be the Canada's model. Doug
I would buy were it not for short suspension travel..
I'm not sure that you need much more suspension travel on a bike like this. I don't think people will be bottoming this out, especially riding solo. It's not like you'll be taking this off road, or jumping it.
@@PeterLoweOne well I saw the Zack from RevZilla ride it and just by the video it seemed an awkward ride at times to say the least.
best bike ever
Bike is nice except the exhaust looks terrible
Agreed go look at the old original Eliminators from the 80s. Beautiful pipes.
Shape same Rebel 500, too bad 😂😂😂. I'm waiting z400rs.
Well they have the Z500 now in the USA... a Z500RS sounds cool :)
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No helmet hooks I assume.
There's one under the seat
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I don’t like the muffler pipe coming out of the engine and sticking out looks bad kill the design
The muffler system looks bad
I call it a naked cruiser
kaw missed the boat ; should be a 750 or 850. NO point with a vulcan S 650 at the same price.
In Canada they're not the same price. And to be fair, the Vulcan has been running on the 650 platform for a while. It's 200cc's more engine, but less technology and a very different seating position. Wishing for a 750 Vulcan S would likely dial up the price of that model, but not add anything more that Vulcan S buyers want. I don't hear Vulcan S buyers tell me that they want a heavier but faster engine. They seem content with the bike as is.
I have oneof these and for me I like the weight of it and the foot position. Getting right at 55 mpg and has plenty of powerfor me.
At 451cc why is this bike called a 500 ?????? Very misleading and for that I would not bye this machine.
You'll also want to avoid the Z900 which is actually a 948cc or a Ninja 1000 which is actually a 1043cc... believe me, I can go on and on. Would it bother you to hear that Honda's 500 makes less horsepower than Kawasaki's 451? Because that's also the case. It's just a name, you may want it to be a description of the engine, but it isn't that anymore for many manufacturers. They're simply names to place vehicles in certain classes.
They should call it what it really is. I'll stick to my 2023 Vulcan s.
@@PeterLoweOnethe eliminator is being advertised as bigger than in actuality whereas it's the opposite for the bikes you mentioned is the difference I believe
Cruisers have forward pegs 😂 this is not a cruiser
That's like saying SUV's are body on frame with 4x4 not AWD. Definitions evolve. I'm not saying that you have to call this a cruiser, but others will.
The 85 was called a "muscle cruiser" but it also had a standard peg position and short bars. I loved it. I can't stand forward pegs. I don't feel in control.
Harley must be shitting themselves 😮
Harley could use great smaller bikes like this.
Exactly! I have been thinking, this is the bike Harley needs.
You habe a bad voice
You should definitely listen to every video I've ever made. It'll sound better, or it won't. But thanks so much for the constructive comment. I'll be sure to do better on the next one. Maybe a Kermit the Frog voice?
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