Speaker placement is also VERY overlooked in smaller churches, makes such a different when you understand how sound travels, vertical and horizontal coverage, and the size of your room.
JESUS CHRIST died for us on a cross for our sins. 3 days after his death he resurrected and was, is, and will be The TRUE LIVING GOD. Repent from your sins and accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior in a prayer and also ask for the HOLY SPIRIT to come into you in that same prayer as well and have FAITH in JESUS CHRIST. You could come to Jesus Christ as you are, but once you accept Him, you have to become new, change, and be born again, and also turn away from your wicked ways. Jesus Christ is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. God Bless You. The Bible is the true word of God. Please read the Bible and you will see Jesus Christ is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. Praise only be to GOD. Give your life to CHRIST. JESUS CHRIST IS COMING SOON FOR HIS CHURCH.
@@ZyroPapuchon18you have a point tho. The lord should be capable of manipulating the acoustics of the poorly installed system to correct the sins of the sound engineers and restore access to his worshipping
JESUS CHRIST died for us on a cross for our sins. 3 days after his death he resurrected and was, is, and will be The LIVING GOD. Repent from your sins and accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior in a prayer and also ask for the HOLY SPIRIT to come into you in that same prayer as well and have FAITH in JESUS CHRIST. You could come to Jesus Christ as you are, but once you accept Him, you have to become new, change, and be born again, and also turn away from your wicked ways. Jesus Christ is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. God Bless You. The Bible is the true word of God. Please read the Bible and you will see Jesus Christ is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. Praise only be to GOD. Give your life to CHRIST. JESUS CHRIST IS COMING SOON FOR HIS CHURCH.
Rule #1 for the EQ nobs: set them during sound test and don't touch them during live performance unless you have preplanned settings at certain cue points. If no one ever did a sound test the default is normal.
I subscribed too quickly before the video ended. Going to give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he has other videos in how to help those. If the high mid and lows sound nice after making an adjustment why on earth would you leave it in the center?
The biggest mistake in my church is that they complain about the bad audio quality even though they have good speakers but someone for some reason thought it was a good idea to set the speakers facing to the ceiling and it sounds horrible
I agree just leave it. Also the biggest issue I’m hearing here is that there is more than one designated sound guy and they’re letting people with no knowledge behind the board. That as bad as putting someone on keys in front of the Church that’s never played. If someone wants to be behind the board they are gonna need to study and show themselves approved.
I fixed a sound once where the volunteer "chief" was simply boosting bass on the preacher vox and we were getting pops feed back etc.. terrible.. I fixed it in seconds, he ignored it and did it again... and thennn I got blamed for interfering... we need a lot of PATIENCE when leading with people in general... (making a long story short)
They had someone come to my church (not sure if they were paid or just doing a favor) and actually had the sound as close to perfect as I'd ever heard. It only took an hour or two into service and 2 or 3 people fiddling with the board who had no clue whatsoever what any of those knobs do to ruin it again!
@@nuthinbutlove that's where you need a piece of tape with a line drawn on it to mark the settings (or write them down in a notebook or word document).
Arrogance, one of the worst characteristics a sound engineer can have. We have one of those. He never set or used a reverb. I installed a plate reverb one day to wet the vocals a bit on the live stream, but it sounds nice in the room too, he refused to use it. Then one day I come in find the plate reverb changed out for a hall reverb. Suddenly he's and expert, and it was so badly executed it sounded like they were inside a bathroom, not a clue. A couple of times I changed it back to Plate setting, eventually he gave up and stopped using it again.
'cause ya know, sometime our brother doesn't want to listen, their eagles not allowed them 😢😢. So please pray for all brothers who taking sound mixing or anything else in church
No idea what they're doing - Perfect, these are the people that don't mess with stuff and call a pro Sorta knows what they're doing - watch out, they think they can do anything (hint; they can't) Knows exactly what they're doing - all good This goes for a lot of things
Hahaha! Thanks for your post! That's why I always say that there are Four types of people. He Knows Not and He Knows He Knows Not - Teach him. He Knows but Knows Not he Knows - He is Asleep, Awaken him. He Knows and He Knows that he Knows - He is Wise, Follow him. The fourth and the most Dangerous! He Knows Not and He Knows Not that he Knows Not!!! - Please Avoid Him.
I do sound at my school and I will always come back to the desk with the low and high set too high and the mid too low. I have put a post-it note on the desk saying to 'just leave the high mid and low alone' but it always gets messed up.
Dang, where was I during this never heard of or seen before youth group?? 😢 👏🏼😂🥳😂👏🏼 I would of definitely been a volunteers! 😂 Oh, I was in commiefornia, where they would NEVER let this happen, but I would! 😂
that green nobs can adjust sound frequenzy green on the top is for "high" high tones like z zimbals 3500 hertz to 20k hertz in the middle they called it "mid" it produce vocals sound, and the green on the bottom can adjust the volume of the bass they call it "low" its for adjusting low mid hi that can produce my voice in the microphone, instruments, and music from the mp3 or phone laptop, going to mixer and transfer to speakers.
We used to have similar board. The 16 channel one. Used to have the same problem. I remember one time where the sound are terrible. I came back to the back to check the mixer, and I find the EQ is just like you describe. I ask the volunteers to just set it to normal. I can not forget his answer. He answer with another question, "How to set it normal?" Right there I realized that I haven't trained them properly. So I told him, You see that little triangle there, set everything to that triangle. And I set up a training session in the next week for the volunteers.
Right. For a great starting point, adjust EQ for "flat." That means zero amplification or attenuation in any frequency range (hi/treble, mid & lo/bass).
Use your ears and not your eyes would be my first advice. Also make sure to research about low and high cut and eq settings as a starting point. Then when you think you know what you’re doing experiment from there.
I don’t add any be it as I don’t understand why I’m adding or taking away. I always get a professional to come set compression on our presnous board tho. It’s the only thing I like to add for our mix. To reduce the harshness if we get in to the -12 db range or a little higher
Lol, I've worked in service and people will send back mixers as faulty claiming "only the left channel works". You get the desk out of the box and you see all the knobs, including the pan knobs, turned all the way to the left. And then you're like "yeeee, we're dealing with a professional here".
So I run my churches audio interface and I am the only one who toutches it, the guy before me was Proally in his 50-60’s and I’m only 15 so I reset everything and as church goes on I change it if needed, I’ve been doing it for about a year now so everything is set hoş it needs to be and I may make a few adjustments here and there but there is no order to my board because everything is different
Not everyone is a good choice to do sound. If you have no idea what eq does or general sound knowledge, or bad ears for what good sound sounds like or compression does, this position needs teaching. Not everyones wants t I rn into doing sound. You are providing an important part of the service. Be teachable. I have been doing sound and video for a long time. This video hit a lot of important ideals.
funny story. i work at a camp with a theater venue for kids to showcase their talents. they have a nice ass soundboard, some very nice mics and nice speakers. only problem is NONE of them know how to operate that stuff nor set it up. There's always a problem with the mics giving so much feedback from small movements. I'm actually gonna ask if I could just go to the booth myself just to see whats going on, because im like 99% sure they're using the gain knob as volume and prob has every EQ effect raised high
was on the road played keys in bands for years, and unfortunately too many sound men, it seemed were more concerned about how the knobs and faders Looled, rather than the what it sounded like
Will changing the settings on this board remove feedback? I’m trying to help a very small church, now my church to figure out feedback issues that are very distracting…. It’s like a buzz
If there’s a buzz, you need to figure out which channel the buzz is coming from. Buzzing is different from feedback. There’s probably a cable that is deteriorating. Try finding out which channel is creating the buzz and then see if you can swap the cable. If that doesn’t help, Google “how to fix ground noise”
@@toni4jesus2if it's a buzz even when there is no sound going through the system, it's probably a ground loop or bad cable. Figure out what channels it's on, and then try unplugging whatever is plugged into the snake on that channel. If it doesn't go away, try unplugging the snake from the board. If it still doesn't go away, it may be something wrong in the board. If it's in the snake, maybe switch to a different snake channel. If it goes away when you unplug a mic cable from the snake, try swapping out the mic cable. If it's still there, it may be in the microphone or DI the mic cable is plugged into. If it's coming from a bass amp or keyboard or something, try flipping the ground lift switch on the DI, or try putting a DI in that has a ground lift switch. And it may be coming from an amp or something and you may not be able to make it go away without replacing it or doing something more major. If you have feedback, as in a squeal when someone is talking into a mic, then the eq can help with that, you can turn down the frequency of the feedback, but don't reset all the eq knobs like this video says, unless you know how to set eq, because there may be a reason why they are where they are, such as stopping bad feedback! Lol
The biggest problem I’ve experienced is not understanding that you need to turn mic gain up. It’s generally a half to a third of the level it should be.
The best thing we ever did was to get a digital console (XR18). I dial in the presets, and all others have to do is handle levels. Sounds good every week.
There is no set settings because what will sound good on small speakers in a room with carpets will sound completely different in a large room with hardwood floors. That's why the halfway point is a good place to start, then adjust while listening
@@pablodelgado744 mines not from echo idk theres some other issue we just can't find with the mics, my gains and gates are low enough so it doesnt catch feedback as easily tho, good luck on ur end, see if ur pastor wants to invest in some foam sound absorbtion pads haha
It depends on what you're doing. For example, if this is your only EQ and the room has a lot of echo, you might as well consider turning down the bass a little, etc. But if you have more than a single channel input or a different setup than this you may need to consider how you EQ each channel for it to make sense. But honestly, you don't need to touch the knobs at all most of the time.
Hi. Do you need an amplifier for the output speakers? I have a 15’’ passive speaker and I’m unsure if I should get an amplifier for it. I’m using it in a hotel conference room of about 50 guests
@@Kodjoedem anytime you have a passive speaker, you’ll need a power-amp. The mixer needs to plug into a power-amp, and then the power-amp into the speaker.
Is Amplifier ko Laptop ya phone se connect karke recording kar sakte hai? Ya kisi aur type ka amplifier hota hai please recording kaise karein us par video bana dein
This is very bad advice. If you don't know what a knob does LEAVE IT LIKE YOU FOUND IT! Unless you are willing to play with it during sound check and see what difference it makes, and return it to where you found it, unless you can improve it. In most of the small churches I have helped at, (many of them over 30 years of church tech work), the channel eq tends to be set like it is to reduce feedback from bad system design, or make low quality or headset mics sound decent. If someone who knows nothing about the system starts resetting them to Unity, you may all of a sudden get horrible feedback from a bunch of sources, or nasty plosives from the pastor during the sermon, or bucket based sound from the headset mic. I know even if I have to sneak into the sound booth when no one is looking when I am visiting a church, I am usually able to reduce that constant feedback whine from the podium mic, and make the pastor's mic sound 10 times better with a few knob tweaks, and hopefully no one ever touches the eq again, but this advice destroys all that tuning, and is like setting the Main system graphic EQ, or System Processor back to Unity settings, and destroy the system tune. Now, if the system is set up properly, with a system eq and good crossover settings etc, high pass filters on the mics, than you should be able to zero out the channel strip eq and be good, and on the bigger churches I ran, I set up the system processor so that most channels got zeroed for every service, because you had different mics or different users in each channel each service, but the headset mic channel EQ was left service to service, because it was set up for the specific voice and mic combination, and we had one pack dedicated to the Head Pastor, and the Countryman needs very specific EQ, so it didn't get touched. But all the handheld stuff was zeroed as a matter of practice for every event, and then tuned in as needed for the specific users. But I was able to train everyone on the team, and was there for most services anyway lol But in the scenarios you are talking about, I can almost guarantee you that the same mics are left plugged in the same channels week to week, and no one is going to be adjusting for individual voices, and the chances they have a system eq or processor are very slim, so the channel strip eq is the only thing dealing with feedback frequencies or mic tuning, and thus should NOT be touched unless you already know what you are doing, and can get it back as good as it was, or better.
There are some ppl that have a constant volume voice. Meaning you can play with the eq knobs. Other ppl are all over the place, in that case, leave the eq knobs alone.
I'm afraid he can't help but my parents Cowboy church, they have a plexiglass shield around the drummer. It's so loud I need earplugs to go to church with them I have been to many electronic music gigs and festivals. Maybe half of the church is deaf.
Some church volunteers are not professionals like you. Their main goal is to serve God. Help them, educate them if you can. They're volunteers, meaning they don't get paid.
@simcax6087 what's important is the willingness and the availability to serve. The knowledge can be acquired through other volunteers like you by teaching those who need to learn. God bless.
@@simcax6087 I think the main issue is that a lot of small churches don't have enough volunteers. So you just get picked to do sound stuff and they give you a little background information. I remember the first month I did SE, it was like fire. But if you are open to criticism and are passionate to make the sound better. You will learn every possible way.
Lmao why is the sound board and audio system such a CHURCH thing!? 😂 But fr, I was “blessed” with very sensitive hearing so I often ask the people to change a few things. Now I’m just gonna help out with sound system officially. Might as well utilize this er ‘gift’ 😅
Another common mistake I've seen in churches is that they'll mistake "bass", for "too loud" and turn the bottom end way down. Many, more traditional congregations will have a pianist as the lead, or maybe an acoustic guitar. That person will be highly regarded and the sound person will have them too high in the mix. Other instruments or singers will be mixed nearly out and the sound is awful. The perception is that it's too loud because of all the clangy midrange, but if they would warm it up with a bit more low frequency, it sounds less abrasive. Lots of smaller congregations with few people serving, and someone with little experience, or a bad ear, or just stubborn can make everyone's experience a bad one. Now if you go and approach the sound person be prepared for hurt feelings. Sometimes I think it would be easier with no PA system, or just the vocals coming through the PA. A decent musician should be able to balance their volume with the rest of the band.
Volunteers ? Lol my church had assigned members, some on payroll. If you didn’t know the basics you’re done😂 I had to learn basics and that got me my own permanent seat
I do know what they are …. And that is exactly what i do… Tone knob (low pass filter) on the guitar, E on the gain stage 1 Tone knob in gain stage 2 Eq for the reverb, eq for the delay And 5 knob eq on the amp 1 and 5 knob eq on amp two… And all i do it turn them till they sound good… and depending of the venue they will end up in a different place…. And you tell me… it would sound better if i just leave the amp how they are if i otherwisely just push and cut where my ears want to
wow I have a mixer just like that but a little bigger. I know very little about mixing, equalizers, mids,highs,lows… I got really frustrated after trying to get the right crisp, bright vocal sound. But after an hour of twisting & turnin & pushing every knob on the board, I gave up😪 And you’re absolutely right. If you have no frickin clue what ur doing, “just leave it.” Haha. The greatest advice I’ve come across so far 😅
Without understanding chances are you won't get something to sound good to a trained ear. You should understand frequency, how those different frequencies will react in your environment, how to acoustically treat a space so that it will even be possible to get good sound, how sound phase works and ways to mitigate it, have an ear trained enough to eq well, and know where all the parts of a band should be volume-wise so that everything has a distinct pocket.
@@Koubles I agree that knowledge helps. But it can also trap you with the same ways, and forgetting experimentation. All we are chasing at the end of the day is emotional impact. And with that being completely subjective, there's no right or wrong way. I used to think for a long time that phase cancelation is bad. Then I learned that it can be used as a tone shaping tool, to find new dynamic textures that couldn't be possible otherwise.
"They just don't know what any of these knobs do" Say that again! How can you have a job and not have a clue how to do it? What's more, if you know you don't know what those knobs are why not spend a little time playing with them until you're familiar enough to adjust it for the better? 😒
Speaker placement is also VERY overlooked in smaller churches, makes such a different when you understand how sound travels, vertical and horizontal coverage, and the size of your room.
JESUS CHRIST died for us on a cross for our sins. 3 days after his death he resurrected and was, is, and will be The TRUE LIVING GOD. Repent from your sins and accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior in a prayer and also ask for the HOLY SPIRIT to come into you in that same prayer as well and have FAITH in JESUS CHRIST. You could come to Jesus Christ as you are, but once you accept Him, you have to become new, change, and be born again, and also turn away from your wicked ways. Jesus Christ is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. God Bless You. The Bible is the true word of God. Please read the Bible and you will see Jesus Christ is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. Praise only be to GOD. Give your life to CHRIST. JESUS CHRIST IS COMING SOON FOR HIS CHURCH.
@@ZyroPapuchon18 he still aint fixed speaker placement
Also for understanding how Feedback works
@@ZyroPapuchon18you have a point tho. The lord should be capable of manipulating the acoustics of the poorly installed system to correct the sins of the sound engineers and restore access to his worshipping
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Just leave it 😂
I hollard! 😅
We need 😂 this emoji
JESUS CHRIST died for us on a cross for our sins. 3 days after his death he resurrected and was, is, and will be The LIVING GOD. Repent from your sins and accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior in a prayer and also ask for the HOLY SPIRIT to come into you in that same prayer as well and have FAITH in JESUS CHRIST. You could come to Jesus Christ as you are, but once you accept Him, you have to become new, change, and be born again, and also turn away from your wicked ways. Jesus Christ is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. God Bless You. The Bible is the true word of God. Please read the Bible and you will see Jesus Christ is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. Praise only be to GOD. Give your life to CHRIST. JESUS CHRIST IS COMING SOON FOR HIS CHURCH.
@@ZyroPapuchon18what did they do💀
Rule #1 for the EQ nobs: set them during sound test and don't touch them during live performance unless you have preplanned settings at certain cue points. If no one ever did a sound test the default is normal.
"keep it normal and just leave it" ok learnt alot ..thanks 😢😂
😂😂😂😂
No such term as "normal" in sound reinforcement... (oh, that meant no boost/no cut ?) 😅
I subscribed too quickly before the video ended. Going to give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he has other videos in how to help those. If the high mid and lows sound nice after making an adjustment why on earth would you leave it in the center?
The biggest mistake in my church is that they complain about the bad audio quality even though they have good speakers but someone for some reason thought it was a good idea to set the speakers facing to the ceiling and it sounds horrible
That's just so God can hear them better
@@RIMALDI😂😂
Ask god to fix it
@@RIMALDIthat is an amazing comment, thank you for the laugh
😂😂😂😂@@RIMALDI
Lmao on "Just Leave It" lmao 😂 Bro, you need to make that a Tshirt lmao 🤣
I agree just leave it. Also the biggest issue I’m hearing here is that there is more than one designated sound guy and they’re letting people with no knowledge behind the board. That as bad as putting someone on keys in front of the Church that’s never played. If someone wants to be behind the board they are gonna need to study and show themselves approved.
I fixed a sound once where the volunteer "chief" was simply boosting bass on the preacher vox and we were getting pops feed back etc.. terrible.. I fixed it in seconds, he ignored it and did it again... and thennn I got blamed for interfering... we need a lot of PATIENCE when leading with people in general... (making a long story short)
They had someone come to my church (not sure if they were paid or just doing a favor) and actually had the sound as close to perfect as I'd ever heard. It only took an hour or two into service and 2 or 3 people fiddling with the board who had no clue whatsoever what any of those knobs do to ruin it again!
@@nuthinbutlove that's where you need a piece of tape with a line drawn on it to mark the settings (or write them down in a notebook or word document).
Arrogance, one of the worst characteristics a sound engineer can have. We have one of those.
He never set or used a reverb. I installed a plate reverb one day to wet the vocals a bit on the live stream, but it sounds nice in the room too, he refused to use it. Then one day I come in find the plate reverb changed out for a hall reverb. Suddenly he's and expert, and it was so badly executed it sounded like they were inside a bathroom, not a clue. A couple of times I changed it back to Plate setting, eventually he gave up and stopped using it again.
@@nuthinbutlove I'm so glad my mixer has a feature where you can take a snapshot of how the board is set up and can revert to it at any time. 😂
@@TimpBizkitthey have that
Thank you for your suggestions Brother
'cause ya know, sometime our brother doesn't want to listen, their eagles not allowed them 😢😢. So please pray for all brothers who taking sound mixing or anything else in church
Cuz *volunteer*
Volunteers tend “know more” about these stuff.
Because "volunteer" means it'll be a new person almost every week. Nobody has time to train a new person like that.
I think you missed the point of the video
Way too many people think they know how to work a sound board. They don't. Great video!
No idea what they're doing - Perfect, these are the people that don't mess with stuff and call a pro
Sorta knows what they're doing - watch out, they think they can do anything (hint; they can't)
Knows exactly what they're doing - all good
This goes for a lot of things
In the end your ear is your best friend
The way he cut back his own voice while moving the es knobs.
Great attention to detail!
He's recording through it.
We have pieces of tape over some rows of knobs on our desk saying ‘do not touch’ 😂
Hahaha!
Thanks for your post!
That's why I always say that there are Four types of people.
He Knows Not and He Knows He Knows Not - Teach him.
He Knows but Knows Not he Knows - He is Asleep, Awaken him.
He Knows and He Knows that he Knows - He is Wise, Follow him.
The fourth and the most Dangerous!
He Knows Not and He Knows Not that he Knows Not!!! - Please Avoid Him.
The last guy knows a lot of nots😂
Pretty good characterisations there.👍
Sounds a bit like known unknowns and unknown unknowns.😂
I do sound at my school and I will always come back to the desk with the low and high set too high and the mid too low. I have put a post-it note on the desk saying to 'just leave the high mid and low alone' but it always gets messed up.
Funny thing in this video is he began by doing a good boost and a good cut (minus the mid cut) for a 58 someone is singing into lol 😆
My church was pretty wild back in the early 2000s, our youth church had pyrotechnics that were homemade and terrifying lol
Dang, where was I during this never heard of or seen before youth group?? 😢 👏🏼😂🥳😂👏🏼 I would of definitely been a volunteers! 😂
Oh, I was in commiefornia, where they would NEVER let this happen, but I would! 😂
that green nobs can adjust sound frequenzy
green on the top is for "high" high tones like z zimbals 3500 hertz to 20k hertz
in the middle they called it "mid" it produce vocals sound,
and the green on the bottom can adjust the volume of the bass they call it "low"
its for adjusting low mid hi
that can produce my voice in the microphone, instruments, and music from the mp3 or phone laptop, going to mixer and transfer to speakers.
It takes a bit of getting used to what frequency band sounds like what.
The eq knobs can have different functions. Band filters for example.
The professional way of saying "dont touch shit if you dont know, thank you"
Too true! I'm glad someone said it. It's actually great advice.
That “just leave it” was personal😂😂😂😂
Thank you for the advice ,...
Now i know .im also a volunter here in our church .watching from phils.
We used to have similar board. The 16 channel one. Used to have the same problem. I remember one time where the sound are terrible. I came back to the back to check the mixer, and I find the EQ is just like you describe. I ask the volunteers to just set it to normal. I can not forget his answer. He answer with another question, "How to set it normal?" Right there I realized that I haven't trained them properly. So I told him, You see that little triangle there, set everything to that triangle. And I set up a training session in the next week for the volunteers.
Lol 🤣 that sounds exactly how I used to be😂😂.
Right. For a great starting point, adjust EQ for "flat." That means zero amplification or attenuation in any frequency range (hi/treble, mid & lo/bass).
Once a karaoke DJ left to use the restroom and I EQ'd their board to make people sound MUCH better! Immediately people noticed. LOL.
Did everyone clap?
Use your ears and not your eyes would be my first advice. Also make sure to research about low and high cut and eq settings as a starting point. Then when you think you know what you’re doing experiment from there.
Treble = Clearness, nuances, edges and harshness
Midrange = Standing out or blending in
Bass = Base, punch, firmness and muddiness
AND DEFINITELY DONT CHANGE THE PAN
(if it is already at 12o'clock, if it is not at 12 o'clock then set it)
Sometimes stereo signals are sent into the mixer in two mono channels. In most cases they need to be panned to dead left & dead right
I don’t add any be it as I don’t understand why I’m adding or taking away. I always get a professional to come set compression on our presnous board tho. It’s the only thing I like to add for our mix. To reduce the harshness if we get in to the -12 db range or a little higher
Lol, I've worked in service and people will send back mixers as faulty claiming "only the left channel works". You get the desk out of the box and you see all the knobs, including the pan knobs, turned all the way to the left. And then you're like "yeeee, we're dealing with a professional here".
So I run my churches audio interface and I am the only one who toutches it, the guy before me was Proally in his 50-60’s and I’m only 15 so I reset everything and as church goes on I change it if needed, I’ve been doing it for about a year now so everything is set hoş it needs to be and I may make a few adjustments here and there but there is no order to my board because everything is different
I did acapella once on church hahaha the echo was fun ❤
Not everyone is a good choice to do sound. If you have no idea what eq does or general sound knowledge, or bad ears for what good sound sounds like or compression does, this position needs teaching. Not everyones wants t I rn into doing sound. You are providing an important part of the service. Be teachable. I have been doing sound and video for a long time. This video hit a lot of important ideals.
The VU meters on my Yamaha 12 channel mixer seem to have died.😢🤔🙁☹
Any video how to navigate a mixer?
That's not a "mistake," that's just lack of knowledge.
The barely contained rage is real 😂
I can't leave it. Now I want to know what the knobs do!! Not enuff! 😮
funny story. i work at a camp with a theater venue for kids to showcase their talents. they have a nice ass soundboard, some very nice mics and nice speakers. only problem is NONE of them know how to operate that stuff nor set it up. There's always a problem with the mics giving so much feedback from small movements. I'm actually gonna ask if I could just go to the booth myself just to see whats going on, because im like 99% sure they're using the gain knob as volume and prob has every EQ effect raised high
Ok you ain't gotta put me on blast😢
This video is for you volunteers, listen up
Exactly I neede this for My Church but budget is very Low , please Sujjest ❤
was on the road played keys in bands for years, and unfortunately too many sound men, it seemed were more concerned about how the knobs and faders Looled, rather than the what it sounded like
Will changing the settings on this board remove feedback? I’m trying to help a very small church, now my church to figure out feedback issues that are very distracting…. It’s like a buzz
If there’s a buzz, you need to figure out which channel the buzz is coming from. Buzzing is different from feedback. There’s probably a cable that is deteriorating. Try finding out which channel is creating the buzz and then see if you can swap the cable. If that doesn’t help, Google “how to fix ground noise”
If you’re using stereo cables make sure they’re balanced too
@@ChurchCinematics I will do that! Thank you! And let you know how it went.
Thank you!
@@toni4jesus2if it's a buzz even when there is no sound going through the system, it's probably a ground loop or bad cable.
Figure out what channels it's on, and then try unplugging whatever is plugged into the snake on that channel.
If it doesn't go away, try unplugging the snake from the board. If it still doesn't go away, it may be something wrong in the board.
If it's in the snake, maybe switch to a different snake channel.
If it goes away when you unplug a mic cable from the snake, try swapping out the mic cable. If it's still there, it may be in the microphone or DI the mic cable is plugged into.
If it's coming from a bass amp or keyboard or something, try flipping the ground lift switch on the DI, or try putting a DI in that has a ground lift switch.
And it may be coming from an amp or something and you may not be able to make it go away without replacing it or doing something more major.
If you have feedback, as in a squeal when someone is talking into a mic, then the eq can help with that, you can turn down the frequency of the feedback, but don't reset all the eq knobs like this video says, unless you know how to set eq, because there may be a reason why they are where they are, such as stopping bad feedback! Lol
i bet those guys are doing a great job actually
The biggest problem I’ve experienced is not understanding that you need to turn mic gain up. It’s generally a half to a third of the level it should be.
The best thing we ever did was to get a digital console (XR18). I dial in the presets, and all others have to do is handle levels. Sounds good every week.
Please does anybody have a link on to how it explain how to set those frequency to give quality sound
There is no set settings because what will sound good on small speakers in a room with carpets will sound completely different in a large room with hardwood floors. That's why the halfway point is a good place to start, then adjust while listening
Usually novice sound guys blast the sound where it's distorted and sounds like crap and they're also good at blowing speakers.
nah cuz eq is literally the biggest issue in my church, if i dont eq it right i get feedback, or else it sounds terrible so i need to have eq 💀
The exact same happens to me. The room is hugue, empty and with a lot of echo. I get feedback with some mics if the bass is too loud
@@pablodelgado744 mines not from echo idk theres some other issue we just can't find with the mics, my gains and gates are low enough so it doesnt catch feedback as easily tho, good luck on ur end, see if ur pastor wants to invest in some foam sound absorbtion pads haha
damn my first thought was the mistake was volunteering for work that could literally make you a couple hundy in a day.
Is there a video where you explain this in further detail?
Can i get your help trying to fins a software that will help woth the sldes and also control sound we have a pa system
I actually do that job (with this exact mixer!) and I’m definitely a culprit of that on my early days 😅
Where is the full video
Those volunteers probable don’t even use a real stereo. Probably just a Bluetooth speaker.
It depends on what you're doing. For example, if this is your only EQ and the room has a lot of echo, you might as well consider turning down the bass a little, etc. But if you have more than a single channel input or a different setup than this you may need to consider how you EQ each channel for it to make sense. But honestly, you don't need to touch the knobs at all most of the time.
IF YOU DON'T KNOW SOUND, STAY AWAY FROM THE BOARD.
Hi. Do you need an amplifier for the output speakers? I have a 15’’ passive speaker and I’m unsure if I should get an amplifier for it. I’m using it in a hotel conference room of about 50 guests
@@Kodjoedem anytime you have a passive speaker, you’ll need a power-amp. The mixer needs to plug into a power-amp, and then the power-amp into the speaker.
Truth spoken right here.
Is Amplifier ko Laptop ya phone se connect karke recording kar sakte hai? Ya kisi aur type ka amplifier hota hai please recording kaise karein us par video bana dein
Thanks this is what i needed...😂
This is very bad advice. If you don't know what a knob does LEAVE IT LIKE YOU FOUND IT!
Unless you are willing to play with it during sound check and see what difference it makes, and return it to where you found it, unless you can improve it.
In most of the small churches I have helped at, (many of them over 30 years of church tech work), the channel eq tends to be set like it is to reduce feedback from bad system design, or make low quality or headset mics sound decent.
If someone who knows nothing about the system starts resetting them to Unity, you may all of a sudden get horrible feedback from a bunch of sources, or nasty plosives from the pastor during the sermon, or bucket based sound from the headset mic.
I know even if I have to sneak into the sound booth when no one is looking when I am visiting a church, I am usually able to reduce that constant feedback whine from the podium mic, and make the pastor's mic sound 10 times better with a few knob tweaks, and hopefully no one ever touches the eq again, but this advice destroys all that tuning, and is like setting the Main system graphic EQ, or System Processor back to Unity settings, and destroy the system tune.
Now, if the system is set up properly, with a system eq and good crossover settings etc, high pass filters on the mics, than you should be able to zero out the channel strip eq and be good, and on the bigger churches I ran, I set up the system processor so that most channels got zeroed for every service, because you had different mics or different users in each channel each service, but the headset mic channel EQ was left service to service, because it was set up for the specific voice and mic combination, and we had one pack dedicated to the Head Pastor, and the Countryman needs very specific EQ, so it didn't get touched.
But all the handheld stuff was zeroed as a matter of practice for every event, and then tuned in as needed for the specific users.
But I was able to train everyone on the team, and was there for most services anyway lol
But in the scenarios you are talking about, I can almost guarantee you that the same mics are left plugged in the same channels week to week, and no one is going to be adjusting for individual voices, and the chances they have a system eq or processor are very slim, so the channel strip eq is the only thing dealing with feedback frequencies or mic tuning, and thus should NOT be touched unless you already know what you are doing, and can get it back as good as it was, or better.
I love your comment.
Never boost any frequency for more than 3dB (1 tick) or cut any freq for more than 6dB (2 ticks)
for a sound engineer the audio on this short is awful
i think hes running the mic through the pa to show how it sounds
especially for one who's being critical of other's sound techniques or lack of knowledge. Lol
@@arguy2021if you notice the qulity changes as he turns the knobs... The audio is an example of what not to do.😂😂😂
Ohh dang
@@Kyle_clubpeople are dumb 😩🤣
Can this mixer be used to control audio Livestream on iphones?
There are some ppl that have a constant volume voice. Meaning you can play with the eq knobs. Other ppl are all over the place, in that case, leave the eq knobs alone.
Well THAT was helpful😂
I'm afraid he can't help but my parents Cowboy church, they have a plexiglass shield around the drummer. It's so loud I need earplugs to go to church with them I have been to many electronic music gigs and festivals. Maybe half of the church is deaf.
@@AF_1892 a good electronic drum set goes a long way and helps a lot in a small church setting
Trolling the unknown in sarcastic way
Some church volunteers are not professionals like you. Their main goal is to serve God. Help them, educate them if you can. They're volunteers, meaning they don't get paid.
I don't volunteer to do something i don't have any knowledge about.
@simcax6087 what's important is the willingness and the availability to serve. The knowledge can be acquired through other volunteers like you by teaching those who need to learn. God bless.
@@rrod6738 god save me from the willingful incompetents
@@simcax6087 I think the main issue is that a lot of small churches don't have enough volunteers. So you just get picked to do sound stuff and they give you a little background information. I remember the first month I did SE, it was like fire.
But if you are open to criticism and are passionate to make the sound better. You will learn every possible way.
Them folks dont like to research anything including sound systems. Oh well this is a temporary stop on the way somewhere else. Right....
What is that device called
Yamaha MG10XU. It’s an entry level mixer that can be found at Guitar Center
@@ChurchCinematics thank u so much I was trying to find tutorial since I need to plug mics but I don't know how and to how to fix sound system
So could somebody explain the nobs to me ?
I’m tryna get my mix right but I barely understand the EQs
He must not know either. 😂
Lmao why is the sound board and audio system such a CHURCH thing!? 😂 But fr, I was “blessed” with very sensitive hearing so I often ask the people to change a few things. Now I’m just gonna help out with sound system officially. Might as well utilize this er ‘gift’ 😅
Faith-Based EQ!
@@craigbrowning9448 😂
Me anticipating......Bro;just leave it 😂
Another common mistake I've seen in churches is that they'll mistake "bass", for "too loud" and turn the bottom end way down. Many, more traditional congregations will have a pianist as the lead, or maybe an acoustic guitar. That person will be highly regarded and the sound person will have them too high in the mix. Other instruments or singers will be mixed nearly out and the sound is awful. The perception is that it's too loud because of all the clangy midrange, but if they would warm it up with a bit more low frequency, it sounds less abrasive.
Lots of smaller congregations with few people serving, and someone with little experience, or a bad ear, or just stubborn can make everyone's experience a bad one. Now if you go and approach the sound person be prepared for hurt feelings. Sometimes I think it would be easier with no PA system, or just the vocals coming through the PA. A decent musician should be able to balance their volume with the rest of the band.
The biggest mistake is adjusting volume with the gain knob. Oops, too loud gotta turn the gain down!
Volunteers ? Lol my church had assigned members, some on payroll. If you didn’t know the basics you’re done😂 I had to learn basics and that got me my own permanent seat
I do know what they are …. And that is exactly what i do…
Tone knob (low pass filter) on the guitar,
E on the gain stage 1
Tone knob in gain stage 2
Eq for the reverb, eq for the delay
And 5 knob eq on the amp 1 and 5 knob eq on amp two…
And all i do it turn them till they sound good… and depending of the venue they will end up in a different place….
And you tell me… it would sound better if i just leave the amp how they are if i otherwisely just push and cut where my ears want to
wow I have a mixer just like that but a little bigger. I know very little about mixing, equalizers, mids,highs,lows… I got really frustrated after trying to get the right crisp, bright vocal sound. But after an hour of twisting & turnin & pushing every knob on the board, I gave up😪 And you’re absolutely right. If you have no frickin clue what ur doing, “just leave it.” Haha. The greatest advice I’ve come across so far 😅
I'm a strong believer that you don't have to understand anything, as long as you land on something that sounds good
Without understanding chances are you won't get something to sound good to a trained ear. You should understand frequency, how those different frequencies will react in your environment, how to acoustically treat a space so that it will even be possible to get good sound, how sound phase works and ways to mitigate it, have an ear trained enough to eq well, and know where all the parts of a band should be volume-wise so that everything has a distinct pocket.
@@Koubles I agree that knowledge helps. But it can also trap you with the same ways, and forgetting experimentation. All we are chasing at the end of the day is emotional impact. And with that being completely subjective, there's no right or wrong way. I used to think for a long time that phase cancelation is bad. Then I learned that it can be used as a tone shaping tool, to find new dynamic textures that couldn't be possible otherwise.
The same thing is happening in my church lol
thanks for the help brooh i will just leave it
"They just don't know what any of these knobs do"
Say that again! How can you have a job and not have a clue how to do it? What's more, if you know you don't know what those knobs are why not spend a little time playing with them until you're familiar enough to adjust it for the better? 😒
Thank you brother
The biggest mistake is buying a mixer with Volume Knob instead of Volume slider
I use them to control feedback issues.
If you DONT know how to touch it. Do NOT ever touch it. For the love of God.
It would be nice to give advise or a tutorial just saying🤷♂️
What About Reverb?
"What do all those green knobs do!"
JUST LEAVE IT!😡
Thank you❤
Mixing the bass voices loudest.
They all volume knobs😂 if u think about it
Right to jail 😤
The church people are right. Turn the EQ knobs and if the sound is better leave them there.
If someone notices the sound, you're doing it wrong.
Transparent is best.
so true its bad the shuld really read the manual and whats videos how to use a mixer