I just want to say, the reasons people have for why they don't like this show as much as ATLA, are mostly justified. There are A LOT of things about this show worthy of criticism and which lead to the show being lesser in writing, storytelling, character writing, etc. than its predicessor. THAT BEING SAID, Legend of Korra is NOT a bad show. It's okay, and even good at times, but it just doesn't measure up to the greatness of ATLA. I still recommend people watch it, and I'm sure you guys will enjoy it, but try to be understanding of why people have the opinions of this show that they do, as they're not without merit. Those who call it 1 star garbage though, can be ignored, they're over-exaggerating. Let me put it this way. If Avatar the Last Airbender is a perfect 10/10, Korra's more like a 6 or 7 out of 10. Not a bad show, just not as good as what came before. (Season 2 is the worst season by far though, as it breaks the spiritualist worldbuilding of ATLA almost entirely.)
I love how the creators went in the other direction with Korra so that they didn't just repeat Aang's story. Aang was a person of peace that had to fight a war. Korra is a warrior that had to keep the peace.
Also that Aang was a person who never wanted to be the Avatar in a world that desperately need him to be. Korea is an Avatar who needs to learn how to be a person in a world that doesn't want her.
I decided to read up a little on reincarnation as well, and I don't claim to be an expert; but it essentially said that you are reincarnated into whatever you lacked in the previous life. Aang avoided conflict and needed to learn to stand his ground more. Korra is obviously the opposite of that and needed to incorporate more Aang style. It goes back to the universe constantly trying to balance. Now I'm not sure if I can make an argument about that Avatar to Avatar (still trying to figure out what Aang had that Roku lacked as they seemed similar to me), but I also liked looking at it when comparing each elemental Avatar. Avatar Kuruk was go with the flow (as he said) and didn't really seem insert himself into conflict whereas Korra is the opposite. Avatar Yangchen was apparently not as spiritually respectful and did care more about the world than one would expect of an Airbender (which plays into the advice she gave Aang) where Aang was the opposite of that. Idk if any of this is relevant but still found it interesting!
@@Bananies12Which begs the question of what the new Earth avatar will be like. I guess if we look at the things Korra and Aang have in common, they’re both fairly optimistic (at least at first) and enjoy having fun and playing. Maybe the Earth avatar is a very serious Lin or Percy Weasley type who needs to let go. Edit: I have a feeling they’ll be very into history and reading, out of necessity (not saying why here.)
@@PelafinaLievreI feel like we're gonna get a flirty or "cool kid" type of avatar like Aang got along with people well because of his approachable nature, I felt like Korra was more socially awkward because she didn't grow up in the city and was training her whole life kinda So maybe the earth avatar would be more of a cool kid or bully(I'm just throwing personalities out there I would see an earth bender having)
Someone explained the differences between Korra and Aang pretty well once... Aang was a person learning to be an Avatar while Korra was an Avatar learning to be a person.
@@Bonfire18 The idea was that Korra spent the majority of her life as "the Avatar." She was secluded from the rest of the world and only had teachers as her friends growing up. I don't want spoil more of her upbringing in case the guys didn't get to certain points yet. However, look at the scene with her getting food. She's used to just getting things because of what she was born as. She was proud to be an Avatar and the series, for the most part, is about her relating to the rest of the world (again, trying not to spoil things).
@@Bonfire18 It's a good analogy. Learning to be "mature" however, is some vague nonsense that doesn't actually explain her character arc. Most of her issues stem directly from her status as the avatar in a different world from Aang's.
I actually just view them both as growing into the mature young people thay are meant to be, but that doesn't make for a snappy post, now does it, lol? To me, Korra's mind set at the start kind of felt like a kid getting a fancy quirk in MHA, they start with the childish notion of what it means to be a hero until they experience and learn all that it is, and grow to live up to it in their own way. Aang was different because he didn't revel in that power, he was afraid of that responsibility, also holding the basic views of what it means to be the Avatar. He slowly found his calling to help people, took up the responsibility, matured, and discovered his own path. Different starting points, same destination of growing into their own, and thus becoming the Avatars they were meant to be.
All of Aang and Katara's kids were named after important people in their lives. Kaya was named after Katara's mother, Bumi is obviously named after Aang's old friend from Omashu, and Tenzin is named after Monk Gyatzo.
@@Mandieats I think your a little off with that. Both names come from the current real world Dali Lama whose first name is Tenzin and last name is Gyatso.
@@nathanielreik6617 "Though it's never stated explicitly in the show, a lot of fans have theorized that Monk Gyatso's first name was Tenzin, as he would then be named after the Dalai Lama"
Aang didn't run away because the Fire Nation was chasing him, he ran away from the Air Nomads because he did not want to be the Avatar. It was due to a freak storm that caused he and Appa to crash into the sea, and the unintentional activation of his avatar state that caused him to become frozen for 100 years. In a way Korra is doing the opposite, she's running away because they put her training on hold and she does not have the patience to wait for when they feel the time is right.
@@kelpermoon23nah Kyoshi also doesn't want to be the avatar when she first started.We don't enough about any avatars to say Aang was the only who doesn't want to be the avatar.
@@KillerChicknAnd he DEFINITELY would've met waterbenders-he'd been to the South Pole before, because he'd been penguin sledding. He probably just hadn't been to Katara's village, or assumed it was another because it looked so different after a hundred years (there were other villages in the past so it would make sense). Especially because his home temple was the Southern Air Temple, which is closest TO the South Pole.
Technically, he didn't live before the war because the war would begin with Fire Lord Sozin when he went against Avatar Roku's wishes. But Aang did live in the early stages of the war before complete segregation. Don't forget that Aang himself said that he had friends in the Fire Nation before he froze himself.
@@TheHeroClass the brief occupation of Earth Kingdom colonies was kind of separate from the war. It is true the real war preparations were able to proceed after Roku’s death but the invasions didn’t actually start until the comet, by which point Aang was frozen.
10:47 actually Ruff, Aang escaped because he didn’t want to be the avatar, so because he’s the avatar, the responsibility to keep the world safe overwhelmed him so he ran away
Always amazes me the Aang doesn’t catch *way* more flack for that from fans. Rejecting his responsibility directly leads to the fire nation becoming so powerful and, what, a century of suffering for a sizeable chunk of the world? Sure it’s an understandable reaction on his part but, well let’s just say if Korra did that you’d never hear the end of it.
@smiddlehurst1 yes but he still a kid. People forget that very often. Normally they had to wait until he had is 16th birthday to reveal he is the avatar. Also its very hard to leave you family and cultur to go on a journey alone and to learn the elements ESPECIALLY for a 12 year old boy. Its practically turning a kid into a soldier. Was he Egotistic? yes, is it understandable? F yes, Was this probably the best outcome for aang to save the world? Yes cuz he would have died if he didnt run away, even if went already to a journey of finding his masters he would be still be followed which makes him IMPOSSIBLE to stay in one place. Roku had years to train cuz he had the luxury....aang didnt have that and it doesnt matter how you bend it: -If he stayed: he died. If went on a journey: he couldnt learn properly the elements cuz he gets chased. It was destiny that the things had to go this way
@@smiddlehurst1lol I think you’re forgetting the fact that Aang would have probably been killed along with the rest of the Air Nomads (the storm episode) so it was destined. I don’t think Aang could have defeated them all especially with the Comet making the fire nation so powerful. It wasn’t his fault
I will never forget a comic I once saw that Korra goes to her parents and tells them she can use bending. Her parents' faces went from joyful to shocked when she used firebending, and her father looks at his wife with suspicion and says "Firebending?" 😂😂😂
In Korra’s time, interracial families were only just starting to pop up. A byproduct of the war and Republic City. So for a while at least, there was going to be that “is our kid the Avatar or did you cheat on me” question. I imagine as time goes on, dormant bending could just pop up even if your parents are of a different nationality.
@@PelafinaLievre heck there was a firebender married to an earthbender in Aang and Zuko’s era that we meet in the comics. I think it’s the Promise where they’re introduced but I can’t remember
If Aunt Wu's predictions are anything to go by, Katara isn't going to die any time soon. She's set to die peacefully in her sleep after the birth of her third great-grandchild
Whats kinda wild is that the technology jump is actually reasonable. The Fire Nation had ironclads, so their tech was somewhere close to the 1860s, and Korra takes place 70 years later.
Especially if you consider the advantages of the different benders working together after peace was established and the city was founded. That place has to be a melting pot.
I always find it insane when people complain about it. Even ignoring stuff like Japans rapid industrialisation compare the US of 1900 to the US of 1970 and tell me this kind of jump in technology isn’t possible
@@jonasquinn7977 Japan benefited from already having the tech and just having to adopt it, in just 70 years in the Avatar universe, Cars, Radios, Planes and electrical lighting have all been invented despite the fact that none of this tech previously was even hinted at. Fire nation ships ran on coal and steam, the fire nation was the exception to the others and managed to have a great amount of tech. The fire nation was the peak of tech, airships were a recent invention. So how does a world ravaged by war, that hasn't moved an inch in 100 years (we see that tech has stagnated greatly as the first fire lord had similar tech), where only a single nation has seen any innovation at all, and is based on Asian culture, transform into early 1900s America? Reminder: fire benders likely aided in the production of metal and the manipulation of fire to create these ironclad steam vessels, which might I add bare little resemblance to the first American ironclad ships. This explains why the fire nation might be ahead in this area.
Your wrong, simply having iron ships does not mean your tech is 1860s level, they have no advanced technology other than steam tech. Fire benders have metal ships because they were able to manipulate fire to process ore. Notice how only fire benders use metal ships. They have no other technology that we would associate with the 1860s era of tech and otherwise live in feudal conditions.
My sister found out she was pregnant with her first about 10 weeks after our dad died. I really relate to the sorrow in Tenzin's demeanor. It's horrible to know someone just missed being a grandparent and you're reminded of it everytime you see the child.
I love the contrast in themes behind the two protagonists of ATLA and Korra. A boy who doesn't want to be the Avatar having to become it in order to save the world vs a girl who wants SO BADLY to be the Avatar confronted with a world that does not want her there anymore. Good stuff.
Fun fact: Jump in technology between ATLA and TLoK almost perfectly reflects real world in amount of years. It feels wrong because in ATLA we mostly saw less advanced societies that lived under constant oppression of fire nation and in TLoK we see capital of innovation
My favorite part of real world technology is that once we managed to properly harness electricity in the late 1800s, the world basically modernized in like 40 years. No time at all. Went from 0 homes with electric to half of homes with electric in less than a lifetime. You could take someone from 1980, pre-digital era, and put them in 1910 and they would still be able to use most devices as they were electrically powered and analog for a century. The digital era is probably the biggest change the world has experienced since the 1800s when electricity surpassed steam.
Also the fact that there used to be people who grew up using horses for transport and then they ended up switching to cars. You would be like 20 seeing hundreds of horse drawn buggies on the road and then by the time you were 45 you would only see cars.
I think it's important to remember that Korra only got green lit a season at a time. The biggest complaint I hear about it is that it doesn't have an over arching narrative but it couldn't because of how the production was approved. So they had to make sure each season was a self contained story.
I prefer it this way if you are from America, america film industry teach a way to show/digest shows which I HATE so much because there a good intro - filler - and end that is always a cliff hanger for the next episode and if you look @ this across every spectrum of a show you can basically watch the beginnig and end go to next episode and not have missed a single detail it really sucks because its all $$$$$$ and not really about compelling stories so self contained worked much better.
Minor clarification that seasons 3 and 4 were greenl8t together (which Nickelodeon then kinda walked back partway through season 4, leading to an entirely different problem)
I think the one about Zuko's mom is called "The Search" if i recall correctly. I got it for my dad but haven't read it yet. "The Promise" takes place just before that I think
One way that I like to describe Korra is that She’s a whole ass teenager, with a fire-bender personality. You’ll see in the series that she even mains fire-bending more than any other element
"There's only northern and southern water tribe" There's also swampbenders... imagine that... The avatar going around in a loincloth, eating bugs and when first moving to a city and seeing a house "whoowee watcha reckon that is tho? some type of earth nation falling cave would crush ya?"
My absolute favorite thing was the minute this show hit Netflix and found a new audience, those new viewers were immediately confused as to where all the vitriol from “long time fans” was coming from, and actually gave the show a fair shot on its own merits.
Aang didn't run away because fire nation was hunting him. He ran because he didn't wanna to be separated from that one monk. The fire nation attacking at the time he ran and got into the iceberg was only a coincidence
Minor correction: Aang didn't run away because the Fire Nation was hunting him. He had no idea about that. He ran be a he eavesdropped and heard that the head monks were going to move him to the Eastern? Air Temple to continue his Avatar training because they thought Monk Gyatso was doting on him too much. He didn't want that so he ran.
The issues with Korra as a series are mainly caused by series planning, so they only show up later on. Basically, Nickelodeon CONSTANTLY screwed over the production with the nature of the scheduling and last-minute decisions that they didn't get to plan around. The show is still great, it's just that these issues make the writing and themes not hold up quite as well in comparison to the first series. Korra's a great show, but like you said, Avatar is one of THE GREATEST shows.
i mean, despite all that the series holds up pretty good. books 2-4 flow into each other nicely and unless you’re actively looking for issues in every episode, it’s a pretty solid show from start to finish. TLoK definitely didn’t deserve all the hate it got
@@TheeWandaStanYea they do flow into eachother but season one had the best writing. And obviously just didn't flow as well into season 2. And idk why the writer's went super hard on romance the love trinagle/sqaure/string whatever it's called was very awkward. But besides that I enjoyed it for the most part. I hope we can see the next Avatar one day and see how they learned and hopefully there allowed to do what they want.
The SINGLE BIGGEST issue is when Book 2 introduces its new backstory for the Avatar universe, with basically every single element of it diminishing something from the original series to a major degree, it retroactively makes ATLA worse. Everything after Book 2 builds on this new lore, so you can't even cut it out to replace with something better without also having to retcon the near entirety of books 3 and 4. I can forgive every other bit of bad writing in Korra, but I personally can't bring myself to watch past Book 1, it just isn't the same universe afterward.
@@Cri_Jackal nothing was retconned. the events of wan’s era happened 10 thousand years prior to atla/lok. lion turtles granted the ability to bend but people actually learned bending forms from animals like the dragons, bison etc. they even showed wan doing the dancing dragon during his training they just went more into depth about how people got bending and how the four nations started out
Aang found out he was the avatar when he was 12 and ran away because he didn't want to be the avatar. Korra knew from a really young age that she was the avatar and she was hyped about it.
Aang got to travel the world and learn bending, while Korra was forced to stay inside the southern tribe in basically a military complex for her protection
"It's one of the two tribes, the northern water tribe or the southern water tribe. It's got to be there" Can I just jump in here to say how much I would love a water avatar from the foggy swamp tribe. It would be so hilarious if the great sages were fruitlessly searching the north and south pole, while meanwhile somewhere in the swamp the avatar is happily riding around on her pet puma gator or whatever
@@cristianovogt5586Sadly they only got contracts for 1 season at the time so they had less time to flesh them out. I really wish Nickelodeon gave them like a 3 or 4 season contract from the start so they had more to work with
@@ashhabimran239 Because Ben 10 and teen titans have an episodic format, which works best for “villain of the week”. The original series and Korra have a serialized format, which is supposed have a storyline(s) spanning thru multiple seasons or whatnot. From what I remember and understand, the Legend of Korra creators were never sure if the show would get renewed *each* season, so they had to use “one-off” villains each time.
Just to remind you guys. Aang didn't run away because he was chased by Fire Nation. He ran away because he didn't want to be the Avatar and he got cought in a storm. As he fell in the water and was drowning his Avatar State awaken to protect him and he froze the water, bubbling himself and Appa.
As Korra grew up in the Southern waters she doesn't quite understand that it's not that easy to replace damaged structures. They can't just water bend some ice walls or earthbend some new walls that stuff is built purposefully by craftsmen. She has to learn how to control her collateral damage.
y'all completely forgot why sang left the air temple. he only left because he didn't want to be the avatar and he was scared his life was going to change drastically so he ran away out of confusion. the fire nation hasn't yet started the war until after aang got frozen. that's why he had no idea about the war
Korra was born after Aang died, and Tenzin's kids are younger then Korra. So for a good number of years he was the last airbender. Talk about pressure.
Kya is the name of Katara from the Pilot episode and then in the official show, the name was given to Katara’s mom. In our world Tenzin Gyatso is the name of the 14th Dalai Lama of which Aangs surrogate father/mentor and youngest son are named after respectively. And we automatically know bout Bumi lol
I honestly love Korra, I only really got to finally watch it in full a year or so ago because of the scheduling hell Nickelodeon put it through when it was still airing. Its animation makes me wish the Kyoshi Novels were adapted into a show and not just a part of the ATLA mobile game, tho I am glad her story got more recognition.
I liked most of the Korra seasons better than Season 1 of avatar tbh. Not to say Season 1 was bad, it just felt rather filler-ish compared to the rest.
There are moments where it generally surpasses the original, especially the villains, but A:TLA purists wouldn't dare admit that: Fire > Change > Earth > Balance > Air > Water > Spirits
Season 4 was for me the weakest ngl, but I'll agree that at times this show managed to match the greatness of ATLA (Especially on season 3, hands down a 10/10 season)
Aang actually didn't only see airbenders, he was traveling the world before being icebergified. He knows Bumi and mentions fire nation friends to Zuko in blue mask episode
I'm glad to see that you guys have started on Korra and are appreciating that this Avatar and series will be a different journey than the one with Aang & his friends. To note, they do some updates to the worldbuilding in the first two Seasons. As others have mentioned here, Seasons 3 and 4 are LIT. There are several ATLA comics that came out that featured what eventually becomes the foundations of what Korra is seeing in her lifetime. Specifically *The Rift* and *Imbalance*.
Legend of Korra is about 70 years after ATLA. Some avatars live very long lifespans but according to a tie-in comic, Aang's time in the iceberg shortened his lifespan. EDIT: It would have still been fun if the next Avatar was a swamp bender. EDIT: As for how strong Korra is. I recently found out the Avatar world is much smaller than Earth which is why they can move from the north to south pole so fast and why they can lift so much and jump so high (reduced gravity).
actually less than 100 years have pass. since he was stuck in ice for 100 years his boddy died earlier. i don't remember the exact time skip but i think it is 80 years
The technology jump between series make perfect sense, ATLA has steamboats and airships so that would make that era the equivalent of our mid-19th century so by the time we get to Korra, which is about 70 years later, it only makes sense that they would be the equivalent of the early-20th century.
Funfact. In the opening for the last airbender, you have 3 characters that show up in the show but the 4th doesnt. That forth person was eventually turned into Toph, so Toph was originally a dude, but when making this show they went back to the character concept and took the visuals and brought it to this show. That unused character is Bolin. Or rather intro Toph became Female Toph and Bolin.
10:43 Aang actually left because he was too scared of the responsability of being the Avatar and of being separated from Gyatzo to continue his training. It's only after Aang left that the Air Nomads were attacked, he didn't know any of that was gonna happen and that's why he feels so much guilt for the death of his people and for the war.
Aang left the the Southern Air Temple because the Monks were gonna remove him from Monk Gyatso’s care, and he was scared of being away from everything he loved and then ended up in the iceberg, the same year or a couple months after Aang left is when Sozin’s comet came and that’s when the Temples were wiped out
Just to correct you at 10:55, Aang left because he found out he was the avatar and the monks were about to send him to the eastern air temple to start training , and the night he left, a bad storm came and almost wiped aang and appa out in which aang went into the avatar state and enclosed him and appa in an iceberg to save them, not because the fire nation was hunting him down and him being chased. The show never disclosed how long the fire nation attacked after he left. All of this was explained in the storm episode in season one.
10:30 Aang wasn’t running from the fire nation. He ran from being the Avatar and got caught in the storm that drove him and Appa underwater. The fire nation didn’t attack until after he was gone.
Aang ran away because the other Air Nomad Elders were going to separate him from Monk Gyatso so he could train as the Avatar, not because he was being chased. They didn't even know a war was happening when Aang left.
No spoilers but I love that from episode 1 they go out of their way to show that Korra is an absolute *beast* even (perhaps especially) when she’s not using her bending. There’s a lot of unspoken story telling in that decision too which is always a good thing!
If the jump in technology feels weird, imagine the jump from ealry 1800s (Aang time) to 1920s (Korras time). It was huge in real world too. Hell, worlds first electric street lights were installed in 1878.
I don’t know, it’s more like from the 1890’s to the 1920’s. There were already tanks and Zeppelins and steam ships and other things in Aang’s time, and bending would help with scientific discovery once the ball got rolling. The early 1900’s was practically the same as it had been for centuries in a lot of places, but then technology started advancing at an extremely rapid pace.
Btw Legend of Korra was suppose to be only 1 season so It was called "Air" to finish the cycle as the seasons go - Water, Earth, Fire, Air which is the Avatar cycle aswell, pretty neat isn't It
Aang wasn’t being hunted when he first got in the iceberg. It was just a storm that forced his instincts to kick in. That’s why that episode titled The Storm triggered him so much. He was escaping his responsibilities and duties as avatar since the other monks wanted to send him away from Monk Gyatso. At that point yea the war had already begun, but to my knowledge no one else knew he was the avatar.
In the last airbender the fire nation hoarded all of the tech to themselves. So 100 years of everyone with tech allowed technology to boom and advance fast.
Correction for the Aang running away: he wasn’t running from firenation, he just decided to run away due to stress of being the avatar and because they ran during a storm, it caused them to crash into the ocean and before they could drown, his avatar state kicked in and saved him and appa by making the iceberg
There’s a theory about how the avatar’s true love or significant other face is gonna reborn as the face of the new avatar, that’s why Korra resembles Katara.
Aang was 12 at the end of the show. He died in his 50s and then korra was born and she's 17 now. And aangs son is now in his 40s. So it's somewhere between 60 and 70 years after the end of the last airbender. Also I just looked it up and it's 70 years after lol😂
32:45 bruh that line kills me everytime I watch it cause I never understood it as a kid but now I understand the joke and it’s too good. I mean that’s the thing with most shows like it is when there’s so many mature themes, you might not get it till way later and Korra is DEFINITELY one of those shows
10:50 Aang was not being hunted by Fire Nation when he fled his Air Temple. He had no idea that the Air Nomads were attacked at all until he thawed out 100 years later and saw the aftermath for himself. He ran away because he believed the other monks were going to seperate him and Monk Gyatso
I doubt you'll see this, but I suddenly ended up in the hospital tonight (and I'm fine now) but can I just say I love your guy's reactions, and having this one to watch while I recovered really made my shitty day ten times better. Thank you guys for all your videos and work! I swear you're the best reactors on TH-cam!
Believe it or not, before the show started airing there were actually some people who theorized that Aang would be Korra's airbending teacher, clearly having forgotten how the Avatar Cycle worked.
I can understand the criticism for this show, it has PLENTY of flaws, but the show is still fun to watch as we see how much of an impact Aang and the gang has made on the world. Also I’m excited to see how y’all react to certain scenes cause you kinda called a few during your reactions to avatar👀
I don't see how seeing the effects of the main Avatar:TLA characters makes the show good. Also, I'm getting conflicting stories. You are saying that it's good because we see how the first series is relevant to this series, while someone else is saying that people should ignore TLA completely and only see this as being set within the Avatar universe.
I worded that wrong entirely my bad. I meant to say that’s something I liked such as how we got to see how much of an impact metal bending has made thanks to Toph, but your right tho
There's a comic that better explains it, but Republic City was originally the fire nation colonies in the earth kingdom. When the war was over, it was over 100 years of integration, so rather than "return" the land to how it was, Zuko and Aang founded Republic City. It was a whole conflict, Aangs job didn't end with the war.
As far as the mental shock of there being more technology, it actually lines up pretty perfectly with the advancement of tech in the real world! ATLA had trains and steam power so it would be comparable to around the 1850s, where as LOK has cameras and radios cars so it's about the same as the 1920s, which makes sense since Aang died at like 65ish (biologically, tho he was technically 165 because of being in the ice)
I think what was poetic about the reincarnation cycle, Korra was born in the Southern Water Tribe the place where Aang awoken from his 100 year sleep in ice and where he started his journey. But because of the Avatar State, it drained Aang of his life force during those 100 years and he passed away later on in his mid 60’s. What was sad about it is because he’ll never meet his grandchildren.
Give or take the problems with season 2, but those are understandable considering the whole, "Surprise! We want another season of that thing you thought was done! Also on short notice!" thing
@@CarbonMage Actually the season 2 isn't as bad as people want to describe it. They tend to forget that not every episode was great in ATLA too and it's a bit sad, both series are very nice, but it's also different.
@novastarburst3939 sure, though Korra herself is pretty rough in the first few episodes in particular. It gets a lot better once that certain two-parter hits
@@CarbonMageespecially since Season 1 was originally meant to be the entire 2-3 season show that was cut down to a 24 episode season that was then in the middle of production cut again to 12. They literally had to make something up in under a year (I'm willing to bet that most of Korra's storyline is what was supposed to be for the Earth Avatar that was re-written to fit Korra's time period)
i truly love this show so much, it gives great thanks to the series before it while also bringing you on a whole new journey in this world! i cant wait to watch you guys react to it!!
Since you mentioned artbooks. The avatar the last airbender artbook is genuinly my favorite artbook of the ones I own. A lot of behind the scenes info about the team and decisions they've made. There are pages for every single episode. Its really nice. Btw, there is a 1st edition version and a 2nd edition version. But they are basicly the same thing, the only difference is the cover and foreword. And the second edition has some extra sketches in it
Easily one of my favorite modern Nickelodeon shows. I’d need to make a whole-ass essay regarding how much I and many others defend Korra, but I’ll just say the gist and keep it short. I’m not gonna deny the show falters in some areas (namely Book 2), but I feel that so many dog on the show for all the wrong reasons and misinterpret Korra, the character, a lot (which makes me sad since Korra is one of my favorite animated characters. I freakin’ love her). Of course, she’s different from Aang; almost every Avatar before him was. Korra’s education and personality says it all. Aang's a pacificist and Korra's a brawler, complete opposites of each other and they needed to balance those personalities, Aang needing to adapt to violence when necessary and Korra needing to find peace in a situation. If every Avatar following Aang acted exactly like him, it would make the franchise fairly boring after a while.
Thankfully, there are handful of video essays out there defending it against the negative ones, and nearly every reactor I've seen who's reacted to it loved just like they loved the original show
It feels very refreshing to see someone separating their opinions and feelings from objective quality outside of MauLer. It's so rare nowadays, and I have to thank you for doing this. You're doing well. Don't stop.
@@addison_v_ertisement1678Absolutely! I kinda train myself to think this way. Otherwise, it could paint me as someone complaining for the sake of complaining without validity.
This definitely a unique opinion, but I prefer and love Korra way more than Aang. Not the show itself, well, maybe in a few aspects actually. But anyway, I loved the side characters a lot more than Aang in ATLA while I loved Korra more than the side characters in LoK. Also, keep in mind one thing, unlike with ATLA, the Creators did not plan out the entire story of LoK, which gave it a lot of writing issues. Plus, I suggest trying not to compare it to ATLA a lot and just view it as its own thing that is just set in the Avatar Universe. You'll have a much better experience imo.
Having to view it as completely separate from its own history is bad writing. I'm not against having a good experience with something, let alone this show, but we should see the good and bad quality in every story.
Most love korra the most in LOK because honestly there are no great side characters! Like the team avatar of LOK is so weak in terms of character personality compared to the team avatar in ATLA!
The Korra villains are so much better than Ozai and at least more interesting on the whole than Azula. ATLA’s villains were kind of cartoonishly evil, even if Azula has reasons for ending up crazy. Korra’s villains might be evil but they have an ethos.
Aang left the air temple because the sages were going to send him away. And he ended up in an iceberg because he was flying in a storm and lost control and fell into the ocean. Then the avatar state activated, sealing him and appa in the ice to protect them both.
Aang didn't run away from the air temple originally because the fire nation was after him, he ran away because the temple elders or leaders were going to send him away for more training and away from his mentor, so, he ran away from being the avatar basically because he never wanted to be the avatar in the beginning and then he got trapped in the bubble and then the fire nation attacked the air temples
Aang did not run away because he was being chased. Aang ran away because the head monk was going to send him away to another temple to train. There were troubling signs coming from the Fire Nation, they knew he was the Avatar, and they wanted to fast track his training and felt Gyatso was holding him back with his insistence that Aang have a childhood. They knew Aang was the Avatar since he was little via the Avatar Relics he selected as toys. Normally they would not tell him until age 16, but they revealed it early as a part of the explanation as to why he was being sent away. So, Aang ran away.
Aang wasn't being hunted before he got frozen. He let because he didn't want to be the Avatar and a little while after he left, the Fire Nation attacked the Airbenders looking for him, without his knowledge until in the future after he was found by Katara and her Brother.
Btw the fire nation wasn’t chasing ang. Ang escaped because he learnt he was the avatar and felt people would treat him differently or his life would be so much different. Fire lord Sozin who started the 100 year war attacked the air temple knowing the next avatar would be born there in the next cycle just happened to be a coincidence when ang ran away. Remember when ang woke up, he didn’t even know he was being chased, a 100 year war or his people faced genocide?
I'm pretty sure the moment one Avatar dies, the next one is born. This will make more sense in season 2 of Korra, but if you remember during the episode where Avatar Roku died they showed Aang being born right after he died. But also i have no idea the canonical answer in terms of amount of time
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God damn it, that’s so far ahead… wish I could join y’all over there.
@@nuclearbirdssame but Patreon isn’t available in my country
We also have our videos available to all TH-cam members as well 😁@@Stan13y
I just want to say, the reasons people have for why they don't like this show as much as ATLA, are mostly justified. There are A LOT of things about this show worthy of criticism and which lead to the show being lesser in writing, storytelling, character writing, etc. than its predicessor.
THAT BEING SAID, Legend of Korra is NOT a bad show. It's okay, and even good at times, but it just doesn't measure up to the greatness of ATLA. I still recommend people watch it, and I'm sure you guys will enjoy it, but try to be understanding of why people have the opinions of this show that they do, as they're not without merit.
Those who call it 1 star garbage though, can be ignored, they're over-exaggerating. Let me put it this way. If Avatar the Last Airbender is a perfect 10/10, Korra's more like a 6 or 7 out of 10. Not a bad show, just not as good as what came before. (Season 2 is the worst season by far though, as it breaks the spiritualist worldbuilding of ATLA almost entirely.)
hope you'll enjoy the finale, then! ❤️
I love how the creators went in the other direction with Korra so that they didn't just repeat Aang's story.
Aang was a person of peace that had to fight a war.
Korra is a warrior that had to keep the peace.
Also that Aang was a person who never wanted to be the Avatar in a world that desperately need him to be. Korea is an Avatar who needs to learn how to be a person in a world that doesn't want her.
I decided to read up a little on reincarnation as well, and I don't claim to be an expert; but it essentially said that you are reincarnated into whatever you lacked in the previous life. Aang avoided conflict and needed to learn to stand his ground more. Korra is obviously the opposite of that and needed to incorporate more Aang style. It goes back to the universe constantly trying to balance. Now I'm not sure if I can make an argument about that Avatar to Avatar (still trying to figure out what Aang had that Roku lacked as they seemed similar to me), but I also liked looking at it when comparing each elemental Avatar. Avatar Kuruk was go with the flow (as he said) and didn't really seem insert himself into conflict whereas Korra is the opposite. Avatar Yangchen was apparently not as spiritually respectful and did care more about the world than one would expect of an Airbender (which plays into the advice she gave Aang) where Aang was the opposite of that. Idk if any of this is relevant but still found it interesting!
@@Bananies12Which begs the question of what the new Earth avatar will be like. I guess if we look at the things Korra and Aang have in common, they’re both fairly optimistic (at least at first) and enjoy having fun and playing. Maybe the Earth avatar is a very serious Lin or Percy Weasley type who needs to let go.
Edit: I have a feeling they’ll be very into history and reading, out of necessity (not saying why here.)
@@PelafinaLievrethey also might be a poor bender compared to Korra's ability with the first three, aside from air of course.
@@PelafinaLievreI feel like we're gonna get a flirty or "cool kid" type of avatar like Aang got along with people well because of his approachable nature, I felt like Korra was more socially awkward because she didn't grow up in the city and was training her whole life kinda
So maybe the earth avatar would be more of a cool kid or bully(I'm just throwing personalities out there I would see an earth bender having)
Someone explained the differences between Korra and Aang pretty well once... Aang was a person learning to be an Avatar while Korra was an Avatar learning to be a person.
That is a bad analogy, learning to be more mature is essential to becoming The Avatar
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I don't think she ever learned
@@Bonfire18 The idea was that Korra spent the majority of her life as "the Avatar." She was secluded from the rest of the world and only had teachers as her friends growing up. I don't want spoil more of her upbringing in case the guys didn't get to certain points yet.
However, look at the scene with her getting food. She's used to just getting things because of what she was born as. She was proud to be an Avatar and the series, for the most part, is about her relating to the rest of the world (again, trying not to spoil things).
@@Bonfire18 It's a good analogy. Learning to be "mature" however, is some vague nonsense that doesn't actually explain her character arc. Most of her issues stem directly from her status as the avatar in a different world from Aang's.
I actually just view them both as growing into the mature young people thay are meant to be, but that doesn't make for a snappy post, now does it, lol? To me, Korra's mind set at the start kind of felt like a kid getting a fancy quirk in MHA, they start with the childish notion of what it means to be a hero until they experience and learn all that it is, and grow to live up to it in their own way. Aang was different because he didn't revel in that power, he was afraid of that responsibility, also holding the basic views of what it means to be the Avatar. He slowly found his calling to help people, took up the responsibility, matured, and discovered his own path. Different starting points, same destination of growing into their own, and thus becoming the Avatars they were meant to be.
All of Aang and Katara's kids were named after important people in their lives.
Kaya was named after Katara's mother, Bumi is obviously named after Aang's old friend from Omashu, and Tenzin is named after Monk Gyatzo.
Hope Netflix does live action Korra too, so we can see pro bending in real life too.
@skyman1572Tenzin is his first name! Tenzin Gyatso, monk is his title
@@MandieatsTenzin Gyatso is also the name of the Dalai Lama
@@Mandieats I think your a little off with that. Both names come from the current real world Dali Lama whose first name is Tenzin and last name is Gyatso.
@@nathanielreik6617 "Though it's never stated explicitly in the show, a lot of fans have theorized that Monk Gyatso's first name was Tenzin, as he would then be named after the Dalai Lama"
Aang didn't run away because the Fire Nation was chasing him, he ran away from the Air Nomads because he did not want to be the Avatar. It was due to a freak storm that caused he and Appa to crash into the sea, and the unintentional activation of his avatar state that caused him to become frozen for 100 years. In a way Korra is doing the opposite, she's running away because they put her training on hold and she does not have the patience to wait for when they feel the time is right.
THANK YOU! I got so bothered when they got that soo wrong.
Same, I knew someone would have jumped on this. Thank you 👏
The opposite of all other avatars
@@hasicazulatv2078 well tbf that was said all the way back in book 1 of last airbender so it's easy to forget bits like that
@@kelpermoon23nah Kyoshi also doesn't want to be the avatar when she first started.We don't enough about any avatars to say Aang was the only who doesn't want to be the avatar.
It’s worth noting that Aang lived before the war and travelled the world. He definitely saw all types of benders.
Yeah he met Bumi as a kid in Omashu before the 100 year ice nap, and also had a Firenation friend named Kuzon, hotman.
@@KillerChicknAnd he DEFINITELY would've met waterbenders-he'd been to the South Pole before, because he'd been penguin sledding. He probably just hadn't been to Katara's village, or assumed it was another because it looked so different after a hundred years (there were other villages in the past so it would make sense). Especially because his home temple was the Southern Air Temple, which is closest TO the South Pole.
Technically, he didn't live before the war because the war would begin with Fire Lord Sozin when he went against Avatar Roku's wishes. But Aang did live in the early stages of the war before complete segregation. Don't forget that Aang himself said that he had friends in the Fire Nation before he froze himself.
@@TheHeroClass the brief occupation of Earth Kingdom colonies was kind of separate from the war. It is true the real war preparations were able to proceed after Roku’s death but the invasions didn’t actually start until the comet, by which point Aang was frozen.
Exactly!
10:47 actually Ruff, Aang escaped because he didn’t want to be the avatar, so because he’s the avatar, the responsibility to keep the world safe overwhelmed him so he ran away
Exactly also if aang escaped from the firenation his reaction wouldnt make much sense when he found his Airtemple dead
These guys seem to miss the point a lot 😂
Always amazes me the Aang doesn’t catch *way* more flack for that from fans. Rejecting his responsibility directly leads to the fire nation becoming so powerful and, what, a century of suffering for a sizeable chunk of the world? Sure it’s an understandable reaction on his part but, well let’s just say if Korra did that you’d never hear the end of it.
@smiddlehurst1 yes but he still a kid. People forget that very often. Normally they had to wait until he had is 16th birthday to reveal he is the avatar. Also its very hard to leave you family and cultur to go on a journey alone and to learn the elements ESPECIALLY for a 12 year old boy. Its practically turning a kid into a soldier. Was he Egotistic? yes, is it understandable? F yes, Was this probably the best outcome for aang to save the world? Yes cuz he would have died if he didnt run away, even if went already to a journey of finding his masters he would be still be followed which makes him IMPOSSIBLE to stay in one place. Roku had years to train cuz he had the luxury....aang didnt have that and it doesnt matter how you bend it:
-If he stayed: he died.
If went on a journey: he couldnt learn properly the elements cuz he gets chased.
It was destiny that the things had to go this way
@@smiddlehurst1lol I think you’re forgetting the fact that Aang would have probably been killed along with the rest of the Air Nomads (the storm episode) so it was destined. I don’t think Aang could have defeated them all especially with the Comet making the fire nation so powerful. It wasn’t his fault
I will never forget a comic I once saw that Korra goes to her parents and tells them she can use bending. Her parents' faces went from joyful to shocked when she used firebending, and her father looks at his wife with suspicion and says "Firebending?"
😂😂😂
That just made me realize that it’s probably easier to find out if your wife cheated based on what element the kid bends
@@SerratedSun5841but it could be from your ancestor like katara who got water bending from her ancestors not her parents
@@SerratedSun5841 to be fair neither of her parent are benders right b
In Korra’s time, interracial families were only just starting to pop up. A byproduct of the war and Republic City. So for a while at least, there was going to be that “is our kid the Avatar or did you cheat on me” question.
I imagine as time goes on, dormant bending could just pop up even if your parents are of a different nationality.
@@PelafinaLievre heck there was a firebender married to an earthbender in Aang and Zuko’s era that we meet in the comics. I think it’s the Promise where they’re introduced but I can’t remember
I love that Tenzin tries to be super chill like Aang but it’s very clear that he got Katara’s temper.
If Aunt Wu's predictions are anything to go by, Katara isn't going to die any time soon. She's set to die peacefully in her sleep after the birth of her third great-grandchild
Whats kinda wild is that the technology jump is actually reasonable. The Fire Nation had ironclads, so their tech was somewhere close to the 1860s, and Korra takes place 70 years later.
Especially if you consider the advantages of the different benders working together after peace was established and the city was founded. That place has to be a melting pot.
I always find it insane when people complain about it. Even ignoring stuff like Japans rapid industrialisation compare the US of 1900 to the US of 1970 and tell me this kind of jump in technology isn’t possible
@@jonasquinn7977 Japan benefited from already having the tech and just having to adopt it, in just 70 years in the Avatar universe, Cars, Radios, Planes and electrical lighting have all been invented despite the fact that none of this tech previously was even hinted at. Fire nation ships ran on coal and steam, the fire nation was the exception to the others and managed to have a great amount of tech. The fire nation was the peak of tech, airships were a recent invention.
So how does a world ravaged by war, that hasn't moved an inch in 100 years (we see that tech has stagnated greatly as the first fire lord had similar tech), where only a single nation has seen any innovation at all, and is based on Asian culture, transform into early 1900s America?
Reminder: fire benders likely aided in the production of metal and the manipulation of fire to create these ironclad steam vessels, which might I add bare little resemblance to the first American ironclad ships. This explains why the fire nation might be ahead in this area.
@@ChRiAn0815 It makes no sense
Your wrong, simply having iron ships does not mean your tech is 1860s level, they have no advanced technology other than steam tech. Fire benders have metal ships because they were able to manipulate fire to process ore. Notice how only fire benders use metal ships. They have no other technology that we would associate with the 1860s era of tech and otherwise live in feudal conditions.
If you want to hurt, just realise that all of Tenzin's kids are a lot younger than Korra. So when Aang died, Tenzin was the only air bender left.
Aww, Tenzin: The Last Airbender. That is sad.
My sister found out she was pregnant with her first about 10 weeks after our dad died. I really relate to the sorrow in Tenzin's demeanor. It's horrible to know someone just missed being a grandparent and you're reminded of it everytime you see the child.
I love the contrast in themes behind the two protagonists of ATLA and Korra. A boy who doesn't want to be the Avatar having to become it in order to save the world vs a girl who wants SO BADLY to be the Avatar confronted with a world that does not want her there anymore. Good stuff.
Fun fact: Jump in technology between ATLA and TLoK almost perfectly reflects real world in amount of years. It feels wrong because in ATLA we mostly saw less advanced societies that lived under constant oppression of fire nation and in TLoK we see capital of innovation
My favorite part of real world technology is that once we managed to properly harness electricity in the late 1800s, the world basically modernized in like 40 years. No time at all. Went from 0 homes with electric to half of homes with electric in less than a lifetime. You could take someone from 1980, pre-digital era, and put them in 1910 and they would still be able to use most devices as they were electrically powered and analog for a century. The digital era is probably the biggest change the world has experienced since the 1800s when electricity surpassed steam.
Also the fact that there used to be people who grew up using horses for transport and then they ended up switching to cars. You would be like 20 seeing hundreds of horse drawn buggies on the road and then by the time you were 45 you would only see cars.
I think it's important to remember that Korra only got green lit a season at a time. The biggest complaint I hear about it is that it doesn't have an over arching narrative but it couldn't because of how the production was approved. So they had to make sure each season was a self contained story.
I prefer it this way if you are from America, america film industry teach a way to show/digest shows which I HATE so much because there a good intro - filler - and end that is always a cliff hanger for the next episode and if you look @ this across every spectrum of a show you can basically watch the beginnig and end go to next episode and not have missed a single detail it really sucks because its all $$$$$$ and not really about compelling stories so self contained worked much better.
Minor clarification that seasons 3 and 4 were greenl8t together (which Nickelodeon then kinda walked back partway through season 4, leading to an entirely different problem)
Even so, I think they did continue Korra’s character growth throughout the seasons.
@@PelafinaLievreif by continue, you mean they reset her growth every season, then yes
@@HExtraordinaire No. She was a different person even from beginning Season 3 compared to Season 1. Season 4 had a completely different Korra as well.
The search for Zuko's mom is in the comics. I believe it's called "The Promise" and as far as I know the actual books are about past avatars
I think the one about Zuko's mom is called "The Search" if i recall correctly. I got it for my dad but haven't read it yet. "The Promise" takes place just before that I think
@silentassason no you're right. It's called the Search.
One way that I like to describe Korra is that She’s a whole ass teenager, with a fire-bender personality. You’ll see in the series that she even mains fire-bending more than any other element
Fun Fact: Tenzin is voiced by the legendary J.K. Simmons. He voices Omni-Man and played as J. Jonah Jameson in Tobey Maguire's Spiderman movies.
"Think Korra, think!"
Anyone else notice that J.K. Simmons only ever seems to play animated characters who have very noticeable facial hair.
"You serious?!"
"There's only northern and southern water tribe"
There's also swampbenders... imagine that...
The avatar going around in a loincloth, eating bugs and when first moving to a city and seeing a house "whoowee watcha reckon that is tho? some type of earth nation falling cave would crush ya?"
I had the exact same cursed thought of "Foggy Swamp Avatar" during their conversation lol
Reminder that you can appreciate one thing without bringing down another
Yes; thank you.
No
I agree but we know how some of the so called "Fans" are when you like something they don't like things can get pretty ugly
Reminder that you can also compare two stories set in the same universe.
Korra better not be cannon
My absolute favorite thing was the minute this show hit Netflix and found a new audience, those new viewers were immediately confused as to where all the vitriol from “long time fans” was coming from, and actually gave the show a fair shot on its own merits.
Aang didn't run away because fire nation was hunting him. He ran because he didn't wanna to be separated from that one monk. The fire nation attacking at the time he ran and got into the iceberg was only a coincidence
"that one monk"
@@Gipwx I am lazy and didn't wanna search how to write his name
@@ganimedes1046gyatso in general alpha terms GYAT so
Minor correction: Aang didn't run away because the Fire Nation was hunting him. He had no idea about that. He ran be a he eavesdropped and heard that the head monks were going to move him to the Eastern? Air Temple to continue his Avatar training because they thought Monk Gyatso was doting on him too much. He didn't want that so he ran.
The issues with Korra as a series are mainly caused by series planning, so they only show up later on. Basically, Nickelodeon CONSTANTLY screwed over the production with the nature of the scheduling and last-minute decisions that they didn't get to plan around. The show is still great, it's just that these issues make the writing and themes not hold up quite as well in comparison to the first series. Korra's a great show, but like you said, Avatar is one of THE GREATEST shows.
Well said.
i mean, despite all that the series holds up pretty good. books 2-4 flow into each other nicely and unless you’re actively looking for issues in every episode, it’s a pretty solid show from start to finish. TLoK definitely didn’t deserve all the hate it got
@@TheeWandaStanYea they do flow into eachother but season one had the best writing. And obviously just didn't flow as well into season 2. And idk why the writer's went super hard on romance the love trinagle/sqaure/string whatever it's called was very awkward. But besides that I enjoyed it for the most part. I hope we can see the next Avatar one day and see how they learned and hopefully there allowed to do what they want.
The SINGLE BIGGEST issue is when Book 2 introduces its new backstory for the Avatar universe, with basically every single element of it diminishing something from the original series to a major degree, it retroactively makes ATLA worse.
Everything after Book 2 builds on this new lore, so you can't even cut it out to replace with something better without also having to retcon the near entirety of books 3 and 4.
I can forgive every other bit of bad writing in Korra, but I personally can't bring myself to watch past Book 1, it just isn't the same universe afterward.
@@Cri_Jackal nothing was retconned. the events of wan’s era happened 10 thousand years prior to atla/lok. lion turtles granted the ability to bend but people actually learned bending forms from animals like the dragons, bison etc.
they even showed wan doing the dancing dragon during his training
they just went more into depth about how people got bending and how the four nations started out
Aang found out he was the avatar when he was 12 and ran away because he didn't want to be the avatar. Korra knew from a really young age that she was the avatar and she was hyped about it.
Aang got to travel the world and learn bending, while Korra was forced to stay inside the southern tribe in basically a military complex for her protection
Tenzin is low-key best character of this show. Amazing grow, arcs and relationships. I love him
"It's one of the two tribes, the northern water tribe or the southern water tribe. It's got to be there"
Can I just jump in here to say how much I would love a water avatar from the foggy swamp tribe. It would be so hilarious if the great sages were fruitlessly searching the north and south pole, while meanwhile somewhere in the swamp the avatar is happily riding around on her pet puma gator or whatever
This show may not top the original, but it gives a great justice to the villains and the morals behind their actions
@@cristianovogt5586Sadly they only got contracts for 1 season at the time so they had less time to flesh them out. I really wish Nickelodeon gave them like a 3 or 4 season contract from the start so they had more to work with
@@cristianovogt5586 Shows like Ben 10 and Teen Titans do that. Why is it such a big deal here?
@@ashhabimran239 Because Ben 10 and teen titans have an episodic format, which works best for “villain of the week”. The original series and Korra have a serialized format, which is supposed have a storyline(s) spanning thru multiple seasons or whatnot. From what I remember and understand, the Legend of Korra creators were never sure if the show would get renewed *each* season, so they had to use “one-off” villains each time.
@@cristianovogt5586I disagree with you
Ehh, I'll put Unalaq as an exception to that. Specifically Unalaq on the last half of Season 2, 'cuz he's actually interesting on the first half.
Just to remind you guys.
Aang didn't run away because he was chased by Fire Nation. He ran away because he didn't want to be the Avatar and he got cought in a storm. As he fell in the water and was drowning his Avatar State awaken to protect him and he froze the water, bubbling himself and Appa.
As Korra grew up in the Southern waters she doesn't quite understand that it's not that easy to replace damaged structures. They can't just water bend some ice walls or earthbend some new walls that stuff is built purposefully by craftsmen. She has to learn how to control her collateral damage.
y'all completely forgot why sang left the air temple. he only left because he didn't want to be the avatar and he was scared his life was going to change drastically so he ran away out of confusion. the fire nation hasn't yet started the war until after aang got frozen. that's why he had no idea about the war
Korra was born after Aang died, and Tenzin's kids are younger then Korra. So for a good number of years he was the last airbender. Talk about pressure.
Kya is the name of Katara from the Pilot episode and then in the official show, the name was given to Katara’s mom.
In our world Tenzin Gyatso is the name of the 14th Dalai Lama of which Aangs surrogate father/mentor and youngest son are named after respectively.
And we automatically know bout Bumi lol
The avatars were always all connected. Korra just learned early because she was told earlier, Aang wasn't told he was the avatar until a bit later.
I honestly love Korra, I only really got to finally watch it in full a year or so ago because of the scheduling hell Nickelodeon put it through when it was still airing.
Its animation makes me wish the Kyoshi Novels were adapted into a show and not just a part of the ATLA mobile game, tho I am glad her story got more recognition.
Nothing can top avatar but Korra is still great nonetheless and in season 3 and 4 it matches it on various occasions
I liked most of the Korra seasons better than Season 1 of avatar tbh. Not to say Season 1 was bad, it just felt rather filler-ish compared to the rest.
Season 4 is my least favorite honestly
Yup once I lowered my expectations I enjoyed the show a lot more.
There are moments where it generally surpasses the original, especially the villains, but A:TLA purists wouldn't dare admit that:
Fire > Change > Earth > Balance > Air > Water > Spirits
Season 4 was for me the weakest ngl, but I'll agree that at times this show managed to match the greatness of ATLA (Especially on season 3, hands down a 10/10 season)
Aang actually didn't only see airbenders, he was traveling the world before being icebergified. He knows Bumi and mentions fire nation friends to Zuko in blue mask episode
I'm glad to see that you guys have started on Korra and are appreciating that this Avatar and series will be a different journey than the one with Aang & his friends. To note, they do some updates to the worldbuilding in the first two Seasons. As others have mentioned here, Seasons 3 and 4 are LIT.
There are several ATLA comics that came out that featured what eventually becomes the foundations of what Korra is seeing in her lifetime. Specifically *The Rift* and *Imbalance*.
Legend of Korra is about 70 years after ATLA. Some avatars live very long lifespans but according to a tie-in comic, Aang's time in the iceberg shortened his lifespan.
EDIT: It would have still been fun if the next Avatar was a swamp bender.
EDIT: As for how strong Korra is. I recently found out the Avatar world is much smaller than Earth which is why they can move from the north to south pole so fast and why they can lift so much and jump so high (reduced gravity).
actually less than 100 years have pass. since he was stuck in ice for 100 years his boddy died earlier. i don't remember the exact time skip but i think it is 80 years
The technology jump between series make perfect sense, ATLA has steamboats and airships so that would make that era the equivalent of our mid-19th century so by the time we get to Korra, which is about 70 years later, it only makes sense that they would be the equivalent of the early-20th century.
Funfact.
In the opening for the last airbender, you have 3 characters that show up in the show but the 4th doesnt. That forth person was eventually turned into Toph, so Toph was originally a dude, but when making this show they went back to the character concept and took the visuals and brought it to this show. That unused character is Bolin. Or rather intro Toph became Female Toph and Bolin.
10:43 Aang actually left because he was too scared of the responsability of being the Avatar and of being separated from Gyatzo to continue his training. It's only after Aang left that the Air Nomads were attacked, he didn't know any of that was gonna happen and that's why he feels so much guilt for the death of his people and for the war.
The character Mako was named after the og VA for Uncle Iroh. Pretty great stuff.
Aang left the the Southern Air Temple because the Monks were gonna remove him from Monk Gyatso’s care, and he was scared of being away from everything he loved and then ended up in the iceberg, the same year or a couple months after Aang left is when Sozin’s comet came and that’s when the Temples were wiped out
Just to correct you at 10:55, Aang left because he found out he was the avatar and the monks were about to send him to the eastern air temple to start training , and the night he left, a bad storm came and almost wiped aang and appa out in which aang went into the avatar state and enclosed him and appa in an iceberg to save them, not because the fire nation was hunting him down and him being chased. The show never disclosed how long the fire nation attacked after he left. All of this was explained in the storm episode in season one.
10:30 Aang wasn’t running from the fire nation. He ran from being the Avatar and got caught in the storm that drove him and Appa underwater. The fire nation didn’t attack until after he was gone.
Aang ran away because the other Air Nomad Elders were going to separate him from Monk Gyatso so he could train as the Avatar, not because he was being chased. They didn't even know a war was happening when Aang left.
No spoilers but I love that from episode 1 they go out of their way to show that Korra is an absolute *beast* even (perhaps especially) when she’s not using her bending. There’s a lot of unspoken story telling in that decision too which is always a good thing!
If the jump in technology feels weird, imagine the jump from ealry 1800s (Aang time) to 1920s (Korras time). It was huge in real world too. Hell, worlds first electric street lights were installed in 1878.
I don’t know, it’s more like from the 1890’s to the 1920’s. There were already tanks and Zeppelins and steam ships and other things in Aang’s time, and bending would help with scientific discovery once the ball got rolling. The early 1900’s was practically the same as it had been for centuries in a lot of places, but then technology started advancing at an extremely rapid pace.
Btw Legend of Korra was suppose to be only 1 season so It was called "Air" to finish the cycle as the seasons go - Water, Earth, Fire, Air which is the Avatar cycle aswell, pretty neat isn't It
That is what I thought too. Then more seasons came out.
@@jamesstutz6907 yeah, Nick f*cked this show over so much and It is still pretty good even then, props to the team
lol Ruff completely forgot why Aang left the Air Nomads. Love y’all dudes
I think it would have been funny if the avatar was born into the swamp dwellers. Water benders that aren't at either pole lol
Aang wasn’t being hunted when he first got in the iceberg. It was just a storm that forced his instincts to kick in. That’s why that episode titled The Storm triggered him so much. He was escaping his responsibilities and duties as avatar since the other monks wanted to send him away from Monk Gyatso. At that point yea the war had already begun, but to my knowledge no one else knew he was the avatar.
In the last airbender the fire nation hoarded all of the tech to themselves. So 100 years of everyone with tech allowed technology to boom and advance fast.
Correction for the Aang running away: he wasn’t running from firenation, he just decided to run away due to stress of being the avatar and because they ran during a storm, it caused them to crash into the ocean and before they could drown, his avatar state kicked in and saved him and appa by making the iceberg
Yeah they forgot about The Storm episode from season 1 of The Last Airbender that I believe they reacted to in the Last Airbender reaction videos.
i love how much y’all are enjoying this so far
They had a lot of struggles behind the scenes of the show BUT, the writers are amazinggg and really made it work for s3 and s4
There’s a theory about how the avatar’s true love or significant other face is gonna reborn as the face of the new avatar, that’s why Korra resembles Katara.
Aang was 12 at the end of the show. He died in his 50s and then korra was born and she's 17 now. And aangs son is now in his 40s. So it's somewhere between 60 and 70 years after the end of the last airbender. Also I just looked it up and it's 70 years after lol😂
32:45 bruh that line kills me everytime I watch it cause I never understood it as a kid but now I understand the joke and it’s too good. I mean that’s the thing with most shows like it is when there’s so many mature themes, you might not get it till way later and Korra is DEFINITELY one of those shows
Legend of Korra is 70 years in the future after the last airbender
10:50 Aang was not being hunted by Fire Nation when he fled his Air Temple. He had no idea that the Air Nomads were attacked at all until he thawed out 100 years later and saw the aftermath for himself. He ran away because he believed the other monks were going to seperate him and Monk Gyatso
I doubt you'll see this, but I suddenly ended up in the hospital tonight (and I'm fine now) but can I just say I love your guy's reactions, and having this one to watch while I recovered really made my shitty day ten times better.
Thank you guys for all your videos and work! I swear you're the best reactors on TH-cam!
Anyone else love how they asked a question in 2 minutes later they get the question answer or an episode later😂
Believe it or not, before the show started airing there were actually some people who theorized that Aang would be Korra's airbending teacher, clearly having forgotten how the Avatar Cycle worked.
(At 4:48) is it weird that Katara's oldest granddaughter, "Jinora" looks like her husband when he was her age?
Aang and Katara also named Kya after Katara's mom as well!!
I can understand the criticism for this show, it has PLENTY of flaws, but the show is still fun to watch as we see how much of an impact Aang and the gang has made on the world. Also I’m excited to see how y’all react to certain scenes cause you kinda called a few during your reactions to avatar👀
I don't see how seeing the effects of the main Avatar:TLA characters makes the show good.
Also, I'm getting conflicting stories. You are saying that it's good because we see how the first series is relevant to this series, while someone else is saying that people should ignore TLA completely and only see this as being set within the Avatar universe.
I worded that wrong entirely my bad. I meant to say that’s something I liked such as how we got to see how much of an impact metal bending has made thanks to Toph, but your right tho
There's a comic that better explains it, but Republic City was originally the fire nation colonies in the earth kingdom. When the war was over, it was over 100 years of integration, so rather than "return" the land to how it was, Zuko and Aang founded Republic City. It was a whole conflict, Aangs job didn't end with the war.
As far as the mental shock of there being more technology, it actually lines up pretty perfectly with the advancement of tech in the real world! ATLA had trains and steam power so it would be comparable to around the 1850s, where as LOK has cameras and radios cars so it's about the same as the 1920s, which makes sense since Aang died at like 65ish (biologically, tho he was technically 165 because of being in the ice)
21:30 YOU PREWATCHING SON OF A CABBAGE!!
I love Korra and I hope you guys will love it as much as I have, even with all the bumps you will encounter
I think what was poetic about the reincarnation cycle, Korra was born in the Southern Water Tribe the place where Aang awoken from his 100 year sleep in ice and where he started his journey.
But because of the Avatar State, it drained Aang of his life force during those 100 years and he passed away later on in his mid 60’s. What was sad about it is because he’ll never meet his grandchildren.
"cabbage guy's family"
They call them the cabbage patch.
People hated on korra just because it wasn't the last airbender, which is stupid cause korra is actually pretty good😔
Give or take the problems with season 2, but those are understandable considering the whole, "Surprise! We want another season of that thing you thought was done! Also on short notice!" thing
@@CarbonMage Actually the season 2 isn't as bad as people want to describe it. They tend to forget that not every episode was great in ATLA too and it's a bit sad, both series are very nice, but it's also different.
@novastarburst3939 sure, though Korra herself is pretty rough in the first few episodes in particular. It gets a lot better once that certain two-parter hits
@@CarbonMageespecially since Season 1 was originally meant to be the entire 2-3 season show that was cut down to a 24 episode season that was then in the middle of production cut again to 12. They literally had to make something up in under a year (I'm willing to bet that most of Korra's storyline is what was supposed to be for the Earth Avatar that was re-written to fit Korra's time period)
i truly love this show so much, it gives great thanks to the series before it while also bringing you on a whole new journey in this world! i cant wait to watch you guys react to it!!
Since you mentioned artbooks. The avatar the last airbender artbook is genuinly my favorite artbook of the ones I own. A lot of behind the scenes info about the team and decisions they've made. There are pages for every single episode. Its really nice.
Btw, there is a 1st edition version and a 2nd edition version. But they are basicly the same thing, the only difference is the cover and foreword. And the second edition has some extra sketches in it
Easily one of my favorite modern Nickelodeon shows.
I’d need to make a whole-ass essay regarding how much I and many others defend Korra, but I’ll just say the gist and keep it short. I’m not gonna deny the show falters in some areas (namely Book 2), but I feel that so many dog on the show for all the wrong reasons and misinterpret Korra, the character, a lot (which makes me sad since Korra is one of my favorite animated characters. I freakin’ love her). Of course, she’s different from Aang; almost every Avatar before him was. Korra’s education and personality says it all. Aang's a pacificist and Korra's a brawler, complete opposites of each other and they needed to balance those personalities, Aang needing to adapt to violence when necessary and Korra needing to find peace in a situation. If every Avatar following Aang acted exactly like him, it would make the franchise fairly boring after a while.
Thankfully, there are handful of video essays out there defending it against the negative ones, and nearly every reactor I've seen who's reacted to it loved just like they loved the original show
It feels very refreshing to see someone separating their opinions and feelings from objective quality outside of MauLer. It's so rare nowadays, and I have to thank you for doing this.
You're doing well. Don't stop.
@@addison_v_ertisement1678Absolutely! I kinda train myself to think this way. Otherwise, it could paint me as someone complaining for the sake of complaining without validity.
4:46 The writers were like: Screw you, read the comics!
I like how whenever they watch stuff they predict things a lot & call everyone a prewatcher lol.
also aang wasn’t being chased by the fire nation, he just didn’t like how he was being treated at the air temple after he found he was the avatar
*YOU GUYS WILL LEARN TO LOVE NAGA! 😂😂 She clutches up as much as APPA*
This definitely a unique opinion, but I prefer and love Korra way more than Aang. Not the show itself, well, maybe in a few aspects actually. But anyway, I loved the side characters a lot more than Aang in ATLA while I loved Korra more than the side characters in LoK.
Also, keep in mind one thing, unlike with ATLA, the Creators did not plan out the entire story of LoK, which gave it a lot of writing issues. Plus, I suggest trying not to compare it to ATLA a lot and just view it as its own thing that is just set in the Avatar Universe. You'll have a much better experience imo.
Having to view it as completely separate from its own history is bad writing. I'm not against having a good experience with something, let alone this show, but we should see the good and bad quality in every story.
Most love korra the most in LOK because honestly there are no great side characters! Like the team avatar of LOK is so weak in terms of character personality compared to the team avatar in ATLA!
@@DriftingMaze So just Team Korra (Mako, Bolin, etc.) or all the side characters (Tenzin, Lin, etc.)?
The Korra villains are so much better than Ozai and at least more interesting on the whole than Azula. ATLA’s villains were kind of cartoonishly evil, even if Azula has reasons for ending up crazy. Korra’s villains might be evil but they have an ethos.
@PelafinaLievre ATLA was a cartoon, and meant for kids. Even if it wasn't, being cartoonishly evil doesn't make someone a bad villain.
Aang left the air temple because the sages were going to send him away. And he ended up in an iceberg because he was flying in a storm and lost control and fell into the ocean. Then the avatar state activated, sealing him and appa in the ice to protect them both.
also fun fact, Tenzin is voiced by jk simmons if you guys couldn’t tell!
Aang didn't run away from the air temple originally because the fire nation was after him, he ran away because the temple elders or leaders were going to send him away for more training and away from his mentor, so, he ran away from being the avatar basically because he never wanted to be the avatar in the beginning and then he got trapped in the bubble and then the fire nation attacked the air temples
Aang did not run away because he was being chased. Aang ran away because the head monk was going to send him away to another temple to train. There were troubling signs coming from the Fire Nation, they knew he was the Avatar, and they wanted to fast track his training and felt Gyatso was holding him back with his insistence that Aang have a childhood.
They knew Aang was the Avatar since he was little via the Avatar Relics he selected as toys. Normally they would not tell him until age 16, but they revealed it early as a part of the explanation as to why he was being sent away. So, Aang ran away.
Aang wasn't being hunted before he got frozen. He let because he didn't want to be the Avatar and a little while after he left, the Fire Nation attacked the Airbenders looking for him, without his knowledge until in the future after he was found by Katara and her Brother.
Honestly having Bumi still be alive and crazier for a few scenes would’ve been incredible
I still love that they named Mako after Iroh’s voice actor 😭
It’s a shame they made him pathetic
Animation in this show: 9.5/10
Bad guy in season 3: 10/10
Everything else: 5/10
Good luck and I hope yous guys have fun!
There is no gap in the avatar’s existence just in their activeness. As soon as Roku passed it showed Aang being born
"She's an earthbender, they live forever"
Can't wait for y'all to read the books, and realize how crazy it is you made this comment 😂
"The Search" is the story of Zukos mom.
9:16 Kyoshi lived to be like 230 and Toph would live longer out of SPITE
Btw the fire nation wasn’t chasing ang. Ang escaped because he learnt he was the avatar and felt people would treat him differently or his life would be so much different. Fire lord Sozin who started the 100 year war attacked the air temple knowing the next avatar would be born there in the next cycle just happened to be a coincidence when ang ran away. Remember when ang woke up, he didn’t even know he was being chased, a 100 year war or his people faced genocide?
Just a fun fact I'm in case no one mentioned it. Mako is named after the VA for Iroh in the original.
I'm pretty sure the moment one Avatar dies, the next one is born. This will make more sense in season 2 of Korra, but if you remember during the episode where Avatar Roku died they showed Aang being born right after he died. But also i have no idea the canonical answer in terms of amount of time