No excuses & no regrets, Regretting things undone can be sharper and more enduring than regrets of things done.... However in this case, i feel this may be better left undone. ~INFP
As an Infj ~ I feel like I'm much more interested in learning what others feel and think. I always say, if you want to know about me, just ask. Otherwise I kinda subconsciously assume you're not interested. I also see things through many points of view. So sometimes I may not be sure what I actually feel about something because I feel all the ways about it 🤔
That's the same for me mate! But i usually have to tell a convoluted story to show that i relate to what you say but in the end i make it sound like i make it about me .... Shit ~intj
It's normal for us INFJ, we always see and feel the both sides on all things. One of our names is the advocate, consellor. It goes well with hamony and balance I find. Observing and analysing. Hum maybe that's why we struggle on who we are. Fit everywhere and nowhere. Yes we INFJ are weird. Genrally I don't go or engage conversation first with people, because I think they are surely not interested by me. But if they talk to me, I am pretty ok to continue the conversation. And same as you, if someone want know me, just ask. If someone don't ask, I just think he is not interested. What do I think, what do I want ? humm I don't care. Want to know what other think, want. As if we just want to observe and analyse, to maintain hamony, as if we were omnicient ?
I relate to everything you said. I have no problem opening up to people but generally won't unless they directly ask me something so I know they're interested. And I can rarely take side in an argument and am generally unbiased since I can often see both points of view, but I feel like this can make people offended that I don't always agree or stand by them in an argument
My INFP kid definitely feels out of place most of the time, lives in her head really. Yet she's the most empathetic person I know, and has a very high emotional IQ, understands everyone's feelings and unfortunately takes them on. I fear for her delicate sensibilities, and I hope the world doesn't feel so burdensome to her as she matures.
let her know!! infp’s often feel out of place, like they’re fundamentally flawed and constantly missing something. keep her on track and let her know what a gem she is! don’t be afraid of giving her tough love at times though, we need somebody to bring us back to reality.
As a fellow INFP I can tell you growing up was a bit hard because the other kids were to egocentric to understand me. When we deal with grown-ups things get much better from that point of view.
My son is exactly the same! While I admire his ability to deeply empathize with people, I worry that he’ll lose himself or internalize someone else’s experience too much.
@@annaandrea8320 Ngl, I sometimes feels like oversharing and out of control. It's scary. I'm not bipolar though, it may be because of how reserved I can be. Seems like everything does backfires. Lol (not the Newton's third law of motion!). ~INFJ
@@shikhasuman871 Totally, it's all or nothing. Happen to me too recently. And regret it after overshare. Why I done this ? I am so weird. In my mind after : Ok next time I will say nothing to no one.
I like the INFP take, especially since wisdom and insight are qualities our type doesn't often get credited with - they're typically so heavily associated with INFJs - though we can often seek/have these things as well, in our own way. I think the main difference is that most of us don't have as much of that need to guide/influence people and are more prone to keeping our insights to ourselves (we're also less likely to *define* ourselves or our worth by our ideas/insights, or our contributions to others, since we have a strong sense of self separate from all that, for better or worse). But I do agree that they are worth sharing. In my case, it also helps that I've been through a lot of crap in my life. I definitely feel most qualified to speak on things I have personal experience with, or have studied extensively. Occasionally I'll get one of these "I need to share my insights with the world!!" flare-ups where I will dump the contents of my mind all over the place - and then it quiets down and I go back to doing my own thing. I'm often more comfortable doing this in writing, where I can express myself more easily and where people can choose freely whether to read or not. I agree that being an outsider can give one a sense of perspective that it can be hard for 'insiders' to have. I embrace my outsider status for this and many reasons.
INFP purpose is to create great social, moral, holistic vision. INFJ purpose is to take this vision, analyse it, help to improve it and then execute in the world.
@@sentienttrash2179 Thank you (made me think), my statement is probably inaccurate. You are right, data/stimuli is always necessary. But I guess my statement meant, "Takes a lot from an experience, then applies the principles like a net over a lot of other things, thus to specific other things it's like, no experience needed, got an insight for ya.
Probably because we are secretly self-aggrandising and have this belief that we are special and yet are lazy and never put the effort into making that reality. Most of us INFPs will not achieve anything in life but we still walk around believing in our own self-importance and the world revolves around us despite this
As an INFP, I know we walk around silently judging everyone and the problem is that we are silent about it which is so selfish and pathetic. For a personality type that is supposedly authentic, you would be surprised at how many INFPs just stand from afar and never speak up which makes US even worse than THEM. I used to do this all the time but have learnt to stop recently
@@anaissainza 😂😂You are most welcome. Just be glad that it's me and not an ESTP or ENTP. They will gladly drag us to hell and back and burn us to a crisp with their harsh but sadly true criticism
Very true about INTP's, I have school in a few hours and need to sleep but am laughing at "They can master the life of the mind, but sometimes struggle with the life of the... well, adult."
The INTJ one felt very accurate and I feel called out,especially by the uncertanity part.I must say, this channel really nails the information.Glad I found it.
For me, the intj quote was spot on. I tend to deliberate a lot on decisions (if I have time of course) in a "I need all the info to make the best possible decision" way, and I think this element of indecision can be kinda obscured by the stereotype.
Bravo! Bravo, Nathan. Dare I say that your nuanced understanding of the types is superior than the majority of people who speak on it here in TH-camistan.
This is one of the best videos you' ve done, Nathan. Just a note, as mentioned for the detached Fe of the INFJ, the dynamic Fe of the ENTP which is frequently ignored. Nonetheless, it was a great video.
The hair, my dude, the hair! Gimme it. I think I know what you said throughout the video when I wasn't distracted... you didn't have to flex like that. Nice hai- I mean - video as always.
this reminds me of the time when i told someone that i am optimistic realist after talking about a grim topic and then brush it off as something which isn't too bad in relativity to some other worse thing. to which he laughed at in my face saying that that is crazy talk and it's not possible. so i told him, the difference between him and i is that i accept reality as it is, the bad, the good and everything in between without much prejudice and am able to still pick the positive out of the muck. he wasn't convinced though... lol
@@kailanGoreng Don't feel badly about the other person not accepting our reality (fellow ENFP). Many people and types are black/white believers and refuse to concede that grey is the real color of the world. We just happen to see that as a fascinating and beautiful mix of every color humanity and nature have ever dreamed of. One of my ENTP friends craves this vision of mine constantly and openly admires me for it, and in the next breath will lecture me on the only way to think about topics A, B or C & the horrors of humanity. I think this need to label and categorize (or not) is one of the most fundamental differences between people. Different outlooks though can be friends, especially one of them is an ENFP 😏
I love the INFP tree house metaphor! It's very fitting. It provides a safe vantage spot to observe other humans at a distance. Sometimes we come down, too. The ENTP contradiction is also quite on point. The ENTP I know claims to be lazy and is often found chilling around, but somehow he's also super accomplished. Seemingly random energy levels... the kind of person who'll suddenly finish a 1000-page book in a weekend. It's so interesting thinking about personality contradictions. When you take a deeper look, the apparent contradictions work together in a way that actually *aren't* so contradictory.
As an ENTP, I lament having deadlines, because I feel like things should come as they come-- if I want to do it, let me do it when I want to, please, it'll be amazing. But forcing it in a timeframe stresses me out and I procrastinate without willing
@@archelynwolf Agreed! Time constraints stifle inspiration and creativity. If only we lived in a world without deadlines... Though in such a world, the INFPs would probably never get anything done (or only get a few things done, very slowly)
You got me there with the ENFP fake-out tho, I audibly groaned when i heard the first one😂 Felt very understood with mine as well, great video as always!! :) ~INFJ
An alternative for INFP could be: Calm yet Panic jk, I'm sure a lot of types could relate to this contradiction in some way lol. Loved the video ahahah, spot on as always.
As an ENFP I can totally agree with ENFJ's contradiction. I feel good around them but start to hate them for always being overly judgmental. I like that they are themselves but they try to manipulate me too much and control me rather than accepting me. And when I confront them, they get emotional and try to deny it which makes me want to tell them their flaws which upsets them. "How could you say such mean things to me?" Even though I was the one getting all the criticism in the first place. Then, I start apologising and they accept it after few days. And the cycle continues.😅 That's what makes me want to prefer INFJs and INTJs.
I suspect the way to deal with the ENFJ is, critically, don't let the tension build up, rumblingly, in yourself, till it explodes. As you have admitted, it doesn't really work, and the whole cycle just starts all over again. Clearly, therefore, you need to ditch that approach in favor of a completely different one. The thing to do is respond to each and every instance of perceived (I emphasize "perceived") manipulation and control, but NEVER respond to it as if it's manipulation/control. Instead, respond to each instance as if...what analogy might work...as if it's a waiter suggesting a dish. If you like it, say "yes," if not, say, "no". Keep, as much as possible, your ego out of it. Here's another analogy, though it might seem cruel: if you were walking down a city street and some demented wino on the corner were hurling random abuses at random people, telling them how ugly or fat or stupid they were, and one of those abuses happened to float generally in your direction, you'd hardly be crushed. You'd recognize it as something entirely "about" the poor wino and not by the remotest conception in any way involved with you. Now, I'm not calling ENFJs winos, of course, but you get my point. You need to maintain that same kind of emotional, uninvolved distance. What would it take for you to chuckle at these eruptions of ENFJ "interference"? There's a good question to meditate over for a while. You need a complete overhaul of your way of "taking" it. One thing that helps is to identify somebody else on the receiving end of ENFJ criticisms who seems to handle it swimmingly, not bothered at all, and emulate them.
Our callousness must be more appealing to an ENFP's dark side 😂 but we love that ENFPs get over hurt pretty quickly upon finding it was unintentional. Emotions can really get in the way of a good friendship at times
@@kensears5099 EXACTLY !! When an ENFJ or other feeling types say things while overwhelmed by emotion, it's not necessarily about us. It's part of their process.
I simply don’t trust enfjs in my life anymore with my honest thoughts because they judge everything morally and can’t find compassion with people’s darker sides, but call themselves empathy. It’s tiring to discuss anything with them cause they get really pushy and I perceive them as self righteous.
Speaking as an ENFJ, I do recognize in myself a desire to help people I care about to improve in areas that clearly hinder them. I want to be encouraging as a friend, but it is a fine line between that and pushy or overbearing. Trying to walk that fine line could come across as manipulative, which is something I try to avoid. I've been working on being more direct with people, particularly as a lot of my social circle are thinkers (which can be its own challenge). I can accept someone as they are if where they are makes them happy and well. Those people are growing. But self improvement is a big motivating factor for me. I am pretty patient with people, talking years, and able to distance myself from people when help clearly isn't wanted. As long as I see someone trying to live their life to the best of their ability, I can support them. But here's the thing: I'll have issue if someone takes support from me again and again and then refuse to listen to advice on how to not run into the same problems. Someone who is clearly in a bad spot of their own making but refuses to even consider changing, no one can help. As for accepting them as they are? That's a lot of energy spent caring about someone who won't improve either of our lives, and who actively takes from me. I've been there. That gets dark and stressful. Besides, my presence hadn't helped them so far, so it would make no difference if I was there or not. So if I'm judgmental, it's only to measure who will drain me and who will grow with me, so I don't pour years into someone who will make me regret it. So as to the ENFJ in your life, it sounds like they're trying to express that they care about you, they want to make sure you're growing, and you're both getting frustrated over that overbearing nature. They probably need to work on distancing their emotions from yours. If I was in their spot, what I would need to hear is that you're doing to best you can, and that they need to trust you to make the right decisions. As an ExxJ, things being out of our control can be anxiety inducing, but trust is something necessary to become healthy and to avoid those uglier tendencies towards those we care about. Being told to trust is a hard pill to swallow, but we know it's important. I hope this has been useful in understanding where ENFJs are coming from, and in dealing with the ENFJ in your life. tldr; Judgement is long-term self defense, but we ENFJ need to learn to trust people we care about to live their lives to their best ability without our constant imput, or we risk damaging the relationships we care most about.
ENFP here. I think this "darkness" some people see in our personality type is because we're people readers. We can see through people. That meaning we see the true colors, which is usually a grey area. No one is all bad or all good. We have this tremendous amount of hope for people, despite knowing they've capacity for evil. This comes from our future, present and past vision. At least for me, my Ne doesn't only make me see the future possibilities, it makes me inter-twin them with the past and the present, we notice the moves(shifts) in people's personalities others usually don't. We see what people were, are and what they could be simultaneously. All of this comes with a price. We want to share as well as we want other people to share all of our sides with the world, but we think the world won't accept that (and it usually doesn't). At least in my perspective, growth is subjective, as most things in life. And we can never completely shut off what we know (after we've seen all the darkness but also all the light). It actually drains you, and that's when our stressed out dark side come to play.
INFP and I can relate to that a lot. It's frustrating and you wanna shake them and tell them what it takes to stivk to the light, but you equally know the limits human condition imposes on us and that it's pointless. For if they could right now, they likely would. But they likely currently cannot. So it's about leaving people be unless you come by someone who's got "a window open" and is willing to have a chat through it, maybe throwing sth. out or taking something in.
@@KxNOxUTA Thank you for sharing your thoughts with me. I am a social worker, graduated in november. When I started the course I had that mentality of shaking people to make them understand that we all have shadows and the important thing is to work on them in your own terms. But now I see it way more as in: people will change if they want to change. You can create an environment where people will ask for your help if they need something in the process of them changing, but you cannot control them. You can't control anyone. There's only hoping for the best and doing what you can with the psychological and physical resources you have at the moment to help along the way, if they want.
ENFP, I relate. I think another part of the darkness is that when we face challenges we grow but also become a little darker and colder each time we get hurt
@@dcgreatman I guess that's true. An area in my life that I've had some hurt (which is romance) I catch myself being every day more hopeless and i don't like it.
i'm currently being ghosted by my former best friend; and i feel this so much. i acknowledge the nuance of the situation but it's so hard not to hate her. the juxtaposition of wanting her to talk to me and be my best friend again while also wishing she just didnt exist is so hard
One of my most crucial contradictions is "perfectionist, but absolutely imperfect himself", or "perfectionist, but too lazy to actually achieve or do anything". INFP here. Though I'm starting to guess there is a part of ISFP in me...
Hit the Enfj explanation RIGHT on the head😭. I had seen this myself as one and it really is a strange contradiction when one thinks about it for a bit. I could point out nefarious actions (from my viewpoint) taken by my associates but it never really hinders me from well associating with them until these actions might seriously affect either myself or others in a non deserving way, THEN my blood starts to boil, but regardless great way of putting it in the vid😄🙌
Here's how it makes perfect sense to me as an ENFP. We are in near constant existential crisis (at least when alone), and have to therefore constantly inspire ourselves out of it. As you said, we see all of the good and all of the bad as well. All of the potential in every direction.
I definitely see the ISFP warmth/gentle about myself, but I can acknowledge that I am also passionate, even fiery, about some of my perspectives/thoughts/opinions/feelings on various matters/topics/subjects.
Im glad you actually understand types, especially ENFPs. Many channels etc portray us too much like an ESFP party animal only they interpret switch from S to N as more flaky. Its really off base. We are more like if an ENTP (the only other Ne dom) crossed with INFP (Fi dom, which is our auxilary). Like if an ENTP was genuine very emotionally dramatic and sensitive to feelings, or an INFP became extremely exploratory and assertive.
Thank you. I always hate how ENFP jokes feel like they focus on the pixie side. We love to straddle the line between boundaries of intellectual comfort.
I'm an ENTP...but I feel like people see me in reverse. They see the part of me that is constantly energetic and working, while in reality I feel l'm quite lazy behind the scenes. Though, I'll admit, as I've gotten older I've become far more reserved, so maybe my success will look more "effortless" as I change my alone time to my high-energy time. This video was timed kinda funny as well--for me personally, at least. I graduated high school this summer and am taking a gap year before I head to school next fall. This video struck home because I'll have weeks where my three jobs are wearing me down and I'll do nothing outside of them...but right now, I'm in full-on energy mode. I've got a theology research project going, an intense personal study of a law book I own, a more relaxed personal study of a forensic science book, and a strict writing routine for my philosophical fantasy novel. Sleep is non-existent (though I've been eating a boatload because eating was put on hold while I was in my work-focused phase a few weeks ago, lol).
@@archelynwolf GREAT question. I'll be honest...I have yet to fix my procrastination habit, but I've found that it helps to look at my to-do list and every item on that to-do list as a puzzle. I'll give myself a goal, and then think of my to-do list as the puzzle pieces that will get me there. Also (and this is more just general time management), think of today's workload as a chance to give yourself more time tomorrow. Lastly...I used to get REALLY upset about my procrastination problem, but I've realized it can be a strength. Yes, it sucks when I'm working on papers till 3 a.m., but it also means I perform great under pressure. I write my best papers when I've procrastinated on them. I've had two very fast-paced, kinda crazy jobs, and I impressed my bosses at both of those because I performed better as the work got crazier. Yes, it's good to try not to procrastinate, but don't deny the strengths it brings. Good luck!!
Not me an INFP feeling even worst that I'm an outsider lol If I actually want to get involved in something I'd like to be given a role that I'm actually good at. A role that if I wasn't there, it wouldn't be as great anymore. Ps. I also like receiving words of affirmation and praise although I realized it in one of the most frustrating day of my life. But hey, at least I got to know myself better so I'd say that's a win win.
ISFJ here, I agree a lot on the "humble yet proud" description to a degree where I feel called out. (Like spot on man) Also to my fellow ISFJs, raise your hand if you love to play aggressive support roles xD
I felt called out, too. My husband always wonders why I obsessively take care of others, but refuse to admit when I need help. I think it’s a need to be needed, deep down, that makes me feel like I have to prove my worth by taking care of others. If I can occupy a role that’s indispensable, then I can feel like others aren’t just putting up with my presence. Accepting help threatens that role and therefore my right to occupy that space.
Lol The ENFP "Just kidding" was a good one. I immediately rolled my eyes before you said that. I just think that one is so overused which I guess is why you made that joke. Anyway! Great video! I definitely related to the ENFJ one for what it's worth.
Wow, I’m an INTJ and that really resonated with me! I’ve been somewhat questioning my type… maybe I’m an ISFP, or INFJ… but that gave me confidence that I am an INTJ. Very true.
No excuses & no regrets, Regretting things undone can be sharper and more enduring than regrets of things done.... However in this case, i feel this may be better left undone. ~INFP
You put it so well, I could cry (while laughing) :3 I'm ENTP by the way. It seems like when I achieved something, my parents just not as excited as when my brother did it. I'm just confused but now I know why ;D They say I'm lazy and complained about it a lot but I never fail school and never bring problem home, unlike my brother (he is not problematic or anything. Just the usual teenager stuff). It just that they seems more disappointed on me than on my siblings who actually cause trouble. He is INTP by the way, and he try to take things slow like me but it just messed up with his grade. And i feel kinda bad, that I brag to him about being lazy and still made it ;D Bad big sis. Everything is fine though and i love my family. They are nice people. It just something i noticed. Thank you for the video!
as an infp, i obviously agreed to the infp one- i also think the world would be a lot better if people took my idea's seriously. that said, i recognised myself in the contradiction for the ESFJ and the INTJ. My habits and values are as follows: I tend to care for people a lot, being very pushy on their wellbeing, but I don't feel like I receive a lot back for it. I don't know if that is because I hang out with the wrong people or something. My dad is an INTJ as far as I know, he seems extremely self-assured, always seems like he knows what he's doing. I think I picked up a lot of this. I seem very quite sure of what I say when I say something; I know that this is also an INFP trait (where strong values are usually backed by a loud opinion), but this determination of my values is scary to have; because I know that I can be wrong. Not for the same reason as the INTJ though.
The reason I've been so confused about my type is that at home, I am an infp, zoned out and in my own world, but around others, I almost always try to be an enfj. I typically have feelings of great concern for various people, wanting to help them and telling them to get more sleep or drink more water. And that energizes me as much as sitting in my room watching random TH-cam videos and thinking about random things. I don't have that sense of effortless charisma and smoothness that enfjs have, but I have the same ideals. It feels like I aspire to become an enfj, and I almost can, but I don't know if I really am or if that's just wishful thinking.
As an ENFP, I'm laughing cuz my friends kept saying that even though I look like a bubble of optimism, they keep feeling this sense of "dread" whenever they're around me Basically im dead inside LMAO
As an ISTJ who scrapped all plans, moved to another country, is following no predefined plan in life and is hating every minute of all the new-ness, but gosh darn'it my principles... I'd say ya nailed it.
Hmm. I think being raised by an INFJ mother inoculated me against that problem, lol: I am understanding when I need to be, but there's a whole category of "ain't nobody got time for that" which can get people preemptively nope'd. - ENFJ
INTP 3:51 In astrology, Virgo is sometimes referred-to as "Child Of The Mind". This seems to be what INTP is, too. I am a Virgo and INTP: Coincidence or intelligent design (ID)?
I'd be curious on your mercury placement and it's aspects. As an INTP myself, my mercury is in conjuction with both my moon and Venus Rx in Capricorn 1st house while being squared by Saturn who rules the house in Aries. Mercury heavily projects a need for framework in how I approach my emotions and creativity. Virgo is ruled by mercury, less chaotic than that of Gemini's influence, but nonetheless it's a deep interest in knowledge. Since I'm assuming you are referring to your Sun, the outward projection and sometimes associated with the conscious mind in evolutionary astrology: Virgo Sun definitely could have this effect, especially if Mercury is sitting there as well and Virgo being a 1st or 9th house. I'm rambling at this point. But astrology, actual astrology beyond the fad can give deep insight. There is a reason Jung researched it heavily and came up with archetypes and eventually this personality system. You could say MBTI has roots in archetypes displayed in Astrology and Myth.
@@PupDeLaTart Yep, INTP’s should (in theory) have quite cerebral placements throughout their chart and it would be interesting to compare a number of charts to see if there are discernible patterns. My Sun Venus and Mars are in Gemini. I also have Mercury in the 1st (Conjunct Asc) in Cancer. Mercury is in trine with Moon and MC, with minor aspects being septile with Saturn, and Bi-quintile with Pluto. An INTP’s Uranus placement would also be interesting to track given that it is often referred to as a higher octave of Mercury It’s great to see other INTP’s with an interest in Astrology. I was attracted to learn about astrological charts due to my interest in history. Throughout historical times, astrology was a means of interpreting and explaining the world. It only made sense that in order to learn about how people of the past thought, that I explored it myself. Regardless of whether any weight should be applied to it, it’s a great way to provoke deeper thoughts about our own behaviour. It’s extremely unsurprising that Jung looked towards astrology to create the archetypes.
Well, it relates to me as (probably) an INTJ and for a friend of mine, who is probably an INFJ, BUT what worries me a lot is the thing that I somehow find properties of other types also suitable for me. For example, how to avoid mixing the uncertainty of INTJ with the INTP's inclinations to procrastinate due to the wish to think over everything properly? Some contradictions like ENTJ's and others' are also relatable for me. So, I think, while, e.g., INTJ's property of controlling is 95/100, it doesn't mean theirs (ours) properties of handling, focusing, perception, etc. are 0/100. And how much are those points - that would be interesting to think about, cause every type is a special kind of personality, whose specialties lead to a definite build of other properties, or, at least, a some limited spread of them.
@@DiminutiveFlower well, maybe. I also need a movie for INTJ - ISTJ comparison, because for all other letters there are already movies on this channel, that make the situation more or less clear: with a HUGE DOUBT I'm not INTP (a bit more utilitarian), clearly not INFJ (f*** people and their social games) and rather not ENTJ (always more out and against the collective, than leading it). Only N/S comparison left. But I saw a movie "5 reasons you're not INTJ" on another channel, which bases more on cognitive functions analysis, and on 2 points I pass as an INTJ, on 1 strictly out, and on 2 I couldn't give any distinct answer. So I'm in doubts. That author also trolls like, "It's common for INTJs being proud to be an INTJ, but that pride is one of probable hints for mistype" -_-_-_-
As an INTJ, I always have goals and the question is always "is it worth it?". I'm currently in this state and I'm a wreck. Trying to pursue something that might not be worth it in the end. But I still work for it albeit begrudgingly.
try layering in additional value into the same endeavour so that if the primary reason for it didn’t pan out you can still extract a lot of value for other things from the attempt.
Ah...once again while most of the contradictions sound very to the point and I do recognize it from the people I know, I still can't relate to mine...(ISFJ) it might have been because I have been dealing with health issues since my childhood so being in the need for help is a way of living, but I don't think I have any pride in that. I just feel bad for being a burden. And while I am always the one who takes care of others, I am grateful when in need someone will do that for me and I need this support, not just in health matters but in general.
At some point we must call you what you really are. A Genius. Being able to phrase someone mind framework so deeply with such few words. The INTJ part. How many time i refuse to give up on something I still wonder the worth. And how many time I have successfully make it work despite everything. Another thing you say for a different type in another video close to this mindset "" the grasse is greener where you water it""" Thanks for the video.
Agreed! I love Nathan's insights and can't believe he gets them all so consistently right (or at least they jibe with my own experiences of my wide range of friends). As an ENFP, I'm used to these things getting more wrong than right. Nathan's commentaries are a breath of fresh air. I'll add on that an INTJ great friend and work partner of mine also takes quite a long time to commit to any new project because he doesn't commit lightly. He knows he'll see it to the end, and he's always overworked as it is. But once he's in your corner, you know you're going to hit a home run. Our biggest champion!
Enfjs ,, dated one for 3 years -- the best out there ,, but they dont accept you , they wanna softly menuplate and change u ,,, also they have dark could over their heads
@@PaperMicShow ENFJ’s often get taken advantage of in a similar way to ESFJ example in the vid but the difference is they may never be able to express their frustration due to a sense of guilt this can give them. This can lead to bitterness and resentment or even emotional explosiveness in an unhealthy ENFJ to those they love.
@@PaperMicShow Everyone knows that not all comfort zones are actually good… be glad someone is nudging you to get you out of your habits… it means they want you in the future.. not just for three years..
@@PaperMicShow we can’t protect you no matter where you are, the forces of nature are very powerful, so you have to be flexible enough to move out of the way or else you perish.. No enfj can protect their loved ones from Nature..
ENTP. I agree with the boundless energy thing. Lazy might be the wrong word. I think ENTPs will do anything to pursue new ideas and laziness doesn’t satisfy that desire. There is definite boredom and leaving projects unfinished, but it’s not from a desire to decompress or relax. It’s from a desire to chase something else.
The description of ESTPs as focusing on constantly changing things, or focusing on too much, also happens to be a good description of ADHD. It’s not an attention deficit, we just focus on the “wrong” things
I was sent for testing because teachers were 'sure' I have ADHD so many times. I don't have ADHD, I'm an ESTP. I don't have any problems focusing and never did. I just wasn't interested in what the teachers are doing.
OMGGGG I TOTALLY FEEL THAT WAY ABOUT MYSELF (I'm an ENFJ) I notice how i understand why people feel the way they feel and i can somewhat justify them, but then again i still judge them for it depending on how i view morality. But wow, i was getting a bit nervous as the video progressed bc i was worried that the ENFJ one was gonna be completely nefarious, and i'd hate accepting that i might just agree with what you said (if it was that ENFJs are completely nefarious lol), but not that bad! I feel like ENFJ stereotypes are that we're manipulative without realizing it and we seem nice and caring but can rip you apart if you cross us or something/someone we care about. idk, but that's just me.
Enfj here, also waited for our type to be described! Regarding the stereotype, i think most of us know when we’re manipulative, but we may call it ‘persuasion’ in our minds haha
As an ESFP, this was super on point. The obliviousness for me is very much attached to moodiness, as my Fi/Te picks and chooses what I care to observe.
intj here and, the overarching slogan for my life IS 'i dont know where im going. i just know im getting there (SUCCESS).' OF COURSE, you got us nailed EXACTLY.
ESFP is spot-on. My nine-year-old son is a stereotypical esfp. He frustrates me with his inability to remember to complete tasks in his daily life, but then will shock me by pointing out minute details of past experiences especially physical surroundings.
In behalf of all of my fellow ESFPs, we are sorry. I can’t imagine having to have parented myself. I have an ENTP child, so I guess I’m getting my comeuppance! 😆
@@sirbradfordofhousejones I love being my ESFP 's mom. He makes me want to strangle him sometimes, but he's so much fun too and I just live his observations and Outlook on life 🥰
Dating an ESFP is exactly like this. Zero memory of half our last conversation (which he was really passionate about at the time), followed by an amazing observation of our relationship dynamic over the years. Plus, he folds towels like nobody's business 😏
You’re the best …. So clear and you don’t stray off topic. I appreciate your effort to communicate clearly. ISFP here. You forgot to mention our need for independence, big time!
*Cough* UM ... Yeah. Intelligent yet child like. Spot on. I'm still willing to read children's books and I play little games with myself like avoiding walking on cracks or hopping from tile to tile in a pattern. ~ INTP
I am intj. My best friend in secondary school is isfp. I can definitely relate to the fiery side of them. Before we know about MBTI types we had a lot of fun in our relationship. I guess it it’s the Fi-Ni fusion that we share that allows us to fall crazy out of the world with each other…
Judging people of how they act yet completely understanding them and accepting them at the same time. This is so spot on! It makes sense, Ti is still in our function stack and we can detect all sort of character flaws in people :)
very well done! how often do I mention that enfp is cynical (overall mostly) yet the heart melts in specific moments all the time anyway all are spot on imo👍 oh and also: I was half thinking that smart but stupid would fit enfp too but you found a more specific one
ENFP is absolutely true in my case. People gravitate towards me because of this happy, bubbly energy and once get close they go: what the actual fffff…
I really appreciate how you put estps first. And thanks for putting a positive spin on inability to hold focus - i'm just concentrating too much...yes!
The question of 'Is this thing I'm investing time, money, effort, thought, etc. into going to be worth it in the long run?' is indeed haunting. I think that's why I can seem so uncertain at times. I struggle with self-doubt and an expectation of ultimate failure sometimes, so even though I am driven to set goals, plan and organize towards those goals almost by instinct, I doubt that I can achieve the goal and/or that the goal will be worthwhile if I somehow manage to succeed in it. If I do manage to set a goal that is achievable, worthwhile and can keep my insecurities at bay for the time being, I can become an unstoppable force that plows through all obstacles to achieve the goal. I can relate to your description of an INFJ here as well sometimes. When I'm not stressed out, or too busy driving towards a goal - when I'm sort of 'idling' and allowing myself to rest and be in the moment, I can become intensely observant of what is going on around me and with other people. When I was a little kid and wasn't burdened with all these responsibilities and such, I was even more this way. I felt like an observer rather than part of things. Like an alien sent to see what the Earthlings were up to. I've always been rather passive and unemotional in terms of expressing them, but was especially so then. I've lost track of how many times people have turned to me for advice or to be a sounding board. My older sister even used to talk to me about her problems, knowing that I wouldn't tell a soul. Not because she threatened me if I did tell, but because she just knew that I wasn't the sort of person who would gossip in the first place. To some degree, I'm still often finding myself in an advisory role. Some of my best jobs have had an aspect to them where I was to give customers advice about something. Sometimes, even perfect strangers will just start talking to me while we are waiting in the doctors office, or at a bus stop etc. I guess I just come across as a good listener. What you said about being 'emotional scientists' is interesting. I often find myself observing and analyzing everything like it's a science experiment. I'll find myself thinking things like "I wonder what reaction I would get if I told my wife about something I've been noticing in This way rather than That way?" for example.
Haha and people get mad at us, ENFJs, that we can’t make decisions fast - what do you expect when we consider and understand everyone’s opinions that influence our morals? haha; and then we can’t even stand on the ‘agree’ or ‘disagree’ side, because we see both of these have good points that back them up lol
I recently noticed that I pretty often zoone out when chilling with people, just enjoying the moment, but not really being the part of it. But when I'm in a mood when I have to achieve something or simply I have to do a good job, I can notice more in my surroundings, be even crazy fast at preventing some disasters! Thank you for not underestimating esfp Nathan:)
ENFP being cynical is really true. Typically it's been now 2 months in raw that I'm in this phase and I can't get out of it. It drains me a lot. Being the bubbly person is not that funny. Yes I prefer to entertain people rather talking about the bad things, I prefer to light up their life rather than they became like me. Our inner world is really dark. Big kids with an old soul.
If INFJs are the feeling person's thinkers, which type is the thinking person's feeler? ENTJ, INTJ, ESTJ, ISTJ, ENTP, INTP, ESTP, or ISTP? And what would "feeling" mean in this instance? Is it being in touch with one's own feelings? Being in touch with others' feelings? Caring about others' feelings?
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For the record, that sign in the background wasn't put up by me, blame my mother. I'll make sure to burn it when I move out ~ Nathan
whats ur type?
Just paint it over with white paint, as if nothing had happened
Wouldn't notice, if you haven't point it out. 😂
@@endgamez7621 he's an INTP.
No excuses & no regrets,
Regretting things undone can be sharper and more enduring than regrets of things done....
However in this case, i feel this may be better left undone.
~INFP
0:02 - ESTP
1:01 - ISTP
1:40 - ENTP
2:23 - ISTJ
3:10 - ESTJ
3:51 - INTP
4:27 - ISFJ
5:18 - ESFJ
5:54 - ENTJ
6:32 - INTJ
7:16 - ISFP
7:49 - ESFP
8:21 - ENFP
9:12 - INFP
9:55 - INFJ
10:44 - ENFJ
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@@ciggytwiggy I'm not intp
@@CaptainCorobo emotional scientist 10:43 🤯ay
for the lazy ;)
0:03 ESTP
1:01 ISTP
1:40 ENTP
2:22 ISTJ
3:09 ESTJ
3:50 INTP
4:27 ISFJ
5:18 ESFJ
5:55 ENTJ
6:31 INTJ
7:16 ISFP
7:48 ESFP
8:21 ENFP
9:11 INFP
9:54 INFJ
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Thanks. ~from the lazy ;)
^ This is kind of wholesome.
For the efficient*
NPs: UR DA BEST BRO.
As a lazy person, I think it takes more effort to scroll down to the comments to find this than it does to use the TH-cam video sections feature.
xNTP: Likes the couch. INTP: Reeeaaaallllly likes the couch. ENTP: Occasionally runs around the world before getting back on the couch.
Haha! Fair! ~ INTP
If given chance, i'll live only on that couch.
Literally. I sit at home all day then I just decide to go biking for like an hour or two and come back to the couch again.
ENFP: Can forget himself there, unless you remind him that.
How dare you make this unreasonable generalization about us INTPs!
I prefer my bed
As an Infj ~ I feel like I'm much more interested in learning what others feel and think. I always say, if you want to know about me, just ask. Otherwise I kinda subconsciously assume you're not interested. I also see things through many points of view. So sometimes I may not be sure what I actually feel about something because I feel all the ways about it 🤔
That's the same for me mate!
But i usually have to tell a convoluted story to show that i relate to what you say but in the end i make it sound like i make it about me .... Shit
~intj
It's normal for us INFJ, we always see and feel the both sides on all things. One of our names is the advocate, consellor. It goes well with hamony and balance I find. Observing and analysing. Hum maybe that's why we struggle on who we are. Fit everywhere and nowhere. Yes we INFJ are weird.
Genrally I don't go or engage conversation first with people, because I think they are surely not interested by me.
But if they talk to me, I am pretty ok to continue the conversation.
And same as you, if someone want know me, just ask. If someone don't ask, I just think he is not interested.
What do I think, what do I want ? humm I don't care. Want to know what other think, want. As if we just want to observe and analyse, to maintain hamony, as if we were omnicient ?
I relate to everything you said. I have no problem opening up to people but generally won't unless they directly ask me something so I know they're interested. And I can rarely take side in an argument and am generally unbiased since I can often see both points of view, but I feel like this can make people offended that I don't always agree or stand by them in an argument
Same
My INFP kid definitely feels out of place most of the time, lives in her head really. Yet she's the most empathetic person I know, and has a very high emotional IQ, understands everyone's feelings and unfortunately takes them on. I fear for her delicate sensibilities, and I hope the world doesn't feel so burdensome to her as she matures.
let her know!! infp’s often feel out of place, like they’re fundamentally flawed and constantly missing something. keep her on track and let her know what a gem she is! don’t be afraid of giving her tough love at times though, we need somebody to bring us back to reality.
As a fellow INFP I can tell you growing up was a bit hard because the other kids were to egocentric to understand me. When we deal with grown-ups things get much better from that point of view.
Awww glad she has an amazing parent like you! 💚 Nothing is worse for an INFP then growing up with a parent who doesn't understand them.
My son is exactly the same! While I admire his ability to deeply empathize with people, I worry that he’ll lose himself or internalize someone else’s experience too much.
My mom said the same thing to me today -infp
When a complete stranger knows you far better than anyone you've ever met... spot on, as always. ~INFJ
Intj here and i feel the same too. I can be much more honest with strangers, cause i don't care if they judge me since I won't meet then again
I agree. It made me laugh because it almost sounded like some of the symptoms and behaviors common in those with BPD.
@@annaandrea8320 Ngl, I sometimes feels like oversharing and out of control. It's scary.
I'm not bipolar though, it may be because of how reserved I can be. Seems like everything does backfires. Lol (not the Newton's third law of motion!). ~INFJ
It's nice, and very rare. It takes a lot of work to get us.
@@shikhasuman871 Totally, it's all or nothing. Happen to me too recently. And regret it after overshare. Why I done this ? I am so weird.
In my mind after : Ok next time I will say nothing to no one.
I like the INFP take, especially since wisdom and insight are qualities our type doesn't often get credited with - they're typically so heavily associated with INFJs - though we can often seek/have these things as well, in our own way. I think the main difference is that most of us don't have as much of that need to guide/influence people and are more prone to keeping our insights to ourselves (we're also less likely to *define* ourselves or our worth by our ideas/insights, or our contributions to others, since we have a strong sense of self separate from all that, for better or worse). But I do agree that they are worth sharing.
In my case, it also helps that I've been through a lot of crap in my life. I definitely feel most qualified to speak on things I have personal experience with, or have studied extensively.
Occasionally I'll get one of these "I need to share my insights with the world!!" flare-ups where I will dump the contents of my mind all over the place - and then it quiets down and I go back to doing my own thing. I'm often more comfortable doing this in writing, where I can express myself more easily and where people can choose freely whether to read or not.
I agree that being an outsider can give one a sense of perspective that it can be hard for 'insiders' to have. I embrace my outsider status for this and many reasons.
Infps are so emotionally wise
Yeah but that Ni be dropping those experience free insights doe.
@@nabsnabster3488 I think it's more of how much you can take from an experience thing, rather than having none.
INFP purpose is to create great social, moral, holistic vision. INFJ purpose is to take this vision, analyse it, help to improve it and then execute in the world.
@@sentienttrash2179 Thank you (made me think), my statement is probably inaccurate. You are right, data/stimuli is always necessary. But I guess my statement meant, "Takes a lot from an experience, then applies the principles like a net over a lot of other things, thus to specific other things it's like, no experience needed, got an insight for ya.
I always say that I dislike my type (INFP), but you always make me see the beauty in it. Thank you!
Probably because we are secretly self-aggrandising and have this belief that we are special and yet are lazy and never put the effort into making that reality. Most of us INFPs will not achieve anything in life but we still walk around believing in our own self-importance and the world revolves around us despite this
Meeting other INFPs remind me why we piss people off. ENTPs especially like to call us out on our bullshit
As an INFP, I know we walk around silently judging everyone and the problem is that we are silent about it which is so selfish and pathetic. For a personality type that is supposedly authentic, you would be surprised at how many INFPs just stand from afar and never speak up which makes US even worse than THEM. I used to do this all the time but have learnt to stop recently
@@juliall255 well now thank you for reminding me why I don't like my type... very uplifting 🤣🤣
@@anaissainza 😂😂You are most welcome.
Just be glad that it's me and not an ESTP or ENTP. They will gladly drag us to hell and back and burn us to a crisp with their harsh but sadly true criticism
I have always felt kind of strange when others helped me out, but I had no idea it had to do with a sense of pride! -fellow ISFJ :)
My mom is an ISFJ and I think this affects her tremendously.
I love yall yall r too cute lmfao
I think you're awesome! I accidentally have 3 ISFJ friends. I'm the ENFP who adopts introverts 😂
Very true about INTP's, I have school in a few hours and need to sleep but am laughing at "They can master the life of the mind, but sometimes struggle with the life of the... well, adult."
The INTJ one felt very accurate and I feel called out,especially by the uncertanity part.I must say, this channel really nails the information.Glad I found it.
It can be soul crushing to see life plans fall apart and yet people see only little of our emotions....
For me, the intj quote was spot on. I tend to deliberate a lot on decisions (if I have time of course) in a "I need all the info to make the best possible decision" way, and I think this element of indecision can be kinda obscured by the stereotype.
Agreed. The moment I heard the description for INTJ, I felt like I have been exposed.
@@jahazielice777 same here, basically my main struggle for life
I absolutely hate to take risky courses of action unless I’ve somehow made the odds of something bad happening negligible
Bravo! Bravo, Nathan. Dare I say that your nuanced understanding of the types is superior than the majority of people who speak on it here in TH-camistan.
This is one of the best videos you' ve done, Nathan. Just a note, as mentioned for the detached Fe of the INFJ, the dynamic Fe of the ENTP which is frequently ignored. Nonetheless, it was a great video.
The hair, my dude, the hair! Gimme it.
I think I know what you said throughout the video when I wasn't distracted... you didn't have to flex like that. Nice hai- I mean - video as always.
I can say this was soooo accurate as an ENFP. I almost didn't know that about myself xD
this reminds me of the time when i told someone that i am optimistic realist after talking about a grim topic and then brush it off as something which isn't too bad in relativity to some other worse thing. to which he laughed at in my face saying that that is crazy talk and it's not possible. so i told him, the difference between him and i is that i accept reality as it is, the bad, the good and everything in between without much prejudice and am able to still pick the positive out of the muck. he wasn't convinced though... lol
@@kailanGoreng optimistic realist is how I've always described myself too 🤔
@@kailanGoreng Don't feel badly about the other person not accepting our reality (fellow ENFP). Many people and types are black/white believers and refuse to concede that grey is the real color of the world. We just happen to see that as a fascinating and beautiful mix of every color humanity and nature have ever dreamed of. One of my ENTP friends craves this vision of mine constantly and openly admires me for it, and in the next breath will lecture me on the only way to think about topics A, B or C & the horrors of humanity. I think this need to label and categorize (or not) is one of the most fundamental differences between people. Different outlooks though can be friends, especially one of them is an ENFP 😏
I love the INFP tree house metaphor! It's very fitting. It provides a safe vantage spot to observe other humans at a distance. Sometimes we come down, too.
The ENTP contradiction is also quite on point. The ENTP I know claims to be lazy and is often found chilling around, but somehow he's also super accomplished. Seemingly random energy levels... the kind of person who'll suddenly finish a 1000-page book in a weekend.
It's so interesting thinking about personality contradictions. When you take a deeper look, the apparent contradictions work together in a way that actually *aren't* so contradictory.
As an ENTP, I lament having deadlines, because I feel like things should come as they come-- if I want to do it, let me do it when I want to, please, it'll be amazing. But forcing it in a timeframe stresses me out and I procrastinate without willing
@@archelynwolf Agreed! Time constraints stifle inspiration and creativity. If only we lived in a world without deadlines... Though in such a world, the INFPs would probably never get anything done (or only get a few things done, very slowly)
As an ENFP I think you’re the first person to say this about them - and my god it’s so true.
Most just exaggerate the “bubbly” aspect of them.
You got me there with the ENFP fake-out tho, I audibly groaned when i heard the first one😂 Felt very understood with mine as well, great video as always!! :) ~INFJ
Intelligent But Child-Like is literally my personality,
just add a bit more 🌟 Sarcasm 🌟 and we're good to go 👍
An alternative for INFP could be:
Calm yet Panic
jk, I'm sure a lot of types could relate to this contradiction in some way lol. Loved the video ahahah, spot on as always.
It’s always a good day when Nathan and Frank upload a video
As an ENFP I can totally agree with ENFJ's contradiction. I feel good around them but start to hate them for always being overly judgmental. I like that they are themselves but they try to manipulate me too much and control me rather than accepting me.
And when I confront them, they get emotional and try to deny it which makes me want to tell them their flaws which upsets them. "How could you say such mean things to me?" Even though I was the one getting all the criticism in the first place. Then, I start apologising and they accept it after few days.
And the cycle continues.😅
That's what makes me want to prefer INFJs and INTJs.
I suspect the way to deal with the ENFJ is, critically, don't let the tension build up, rumblingly, in yourself, till it explodes. As you have admitted, it doesn't really work, and the whole cycle just starts all over again. Clearly, therefore, you need to ditch that approach in favor of a completely different one. The thing to do is respond to each and every instance of perceived (I emphasize "perceived") manipulation and control, but NEVER respond to it as if it's manipulation/control. Instead, respond to each instance as if...what analogy might work...as if it's a waiter suggesting a dish. If you like it, say "yes," if not, say, "no". Keep, as much as possible, your ego out of it. Here's another analogy, though it might seem cruel: if you were walking down a city street and some demented wino on the corner were hurling random abuses at random people, telling them how ugly or fat or stupid they were, and one of those abuses happened to float generally in your direction, you'd hardly be crushed. You'd recognize it as something entirely "about" the poor wino and not by the remotest conception in any way involved with you. Now, I'm not calling ENFJs winos, of course, but you get my point. You need to maintain that same kind of emotional, uninvolved distance. What would it take for you to chuckle at these eruptions of ENFJ "interference"? There's a good question to meditate over for a while. You need a complete overhaul of your way of "taking" it. One thing that helps is to identify somebody else on the receiving end of ENFJ criticisms who seems to handle it swimmingly, not bothered at all, and emulate them.
Our callousness must be more appealing to an ENFP's dark side 😂 but we love that ENFPs get over hurt pretty quickly upon finding it was unintentional. Emotions can really get in the way of a good friendship at times
@@kensears5099 EXACTLY !! When an ENFJ or other feeling types say things while overwhelmed by emotion, it's not necessarily about us. It's part of their process.
I simply don’t trust enfjs in my life anymore with my honest thoughts because they judge everything morally and can’t find compassion with people’s darker sides, but call themselves empathy. It’s tiring to discuss anything with them cause they get really pushy and I perceive them as self righteous.
Speaking as an ENFJ, I do recognize in myself a desire to help people I care about to improve in areas that clearly hinder them. I want to be encouraging as a friend, but it is a fine line between that and pushy or overbearing. Trying to walk that fine line could come across as manipulative, which is something I try to avoid. I've been working on being more direct with people, particularly as a lot of my social circle are thinkers (which can be its own challenge). I can accept someone as they are if where they are makes them happy and well. Those people are growing. But self improvement is a big motivating factor for me. I am pretty patient with people, talking years, and able to distance myself from people when help clearly isn't wanted. As long as I see someone trying to live their life to the best of their ability, I can support them. But here's the thing: I'll have issue if someone takes support from me again and again and then refuse to listen to advice on how to not run into the same problems. Someone who is clearly in a bad spot of their own making but refuses to even consider changing, no one can help. As for accepting them as they are? That's a lot of energy spent caring about someone who won't improve either of our lives, and who actively takes from me. I've been there. That gets dark and stressful. Besides, my presence hadn't helped them so far, so it would make no difference if I was there or not. So if I'm judgmental, it's only to measure who will drain me and who will grow with me, so I don't pour years into someone who will make me regret it.
So as to the ENFJ in your life, it sounds like they're trying to express that they care about you, they want to make sure you're growing, and you're both getting frustrated over that overbearing nature. They probably need to work on distancing their emotions from yours. If I was in their spot, what I would need to hear is that you're doing to best you can, and that they need to trust you to make the right decisions. As an ExxJ, things being out of our control can be anxiety inducing, but trust is something necessary to become healthy and to avoid those uglier tendencies towards those we care about. Being told to trust is a hard pill to swallow, but we know it's important. I hope this has been useful in understanding where ENFJs are coming from, and in dealing with the ENFJ in your life.
tldr; Judgement is long-term self defense, but we ENFJ need to learn to trust people we care about to live their lives to their best ability without our constant imput, or we risk damaging the relationships we care most about.
ENFP here. I think this "darkness" some people see in our personality type is because we're people readers. We can see through people. That meaning we see the true colors, which is usually a grey area. No one is all bad or all good. We have this tremendous amount of hope for people, despite knowing they've capacity for evil. This comes from our future, present and past vision. At least for me, my Ne doesn't only make me see the future possibilities, it makes me inter-twin them with the past and the present, we notice the moves(shifts) in people's personalities others usually don't. We see what people were, are and what they could be simultaneously. All of this comes with a price. We want to share as well as we want other people to share all of our sides with the world, but we think the world won't accept that (and it usually doesn't). At least in my perspective, growth is subjective, as most things in life. And we can never completely shut off what we know (after we've seen all the darkness but also all the light). It actually drains you, and that's when our stressed out dark side come to play.
INFP and I can relate to that a lot. It's frustrating and you wanna shake them and tell them what it takes to stivk to the light, but you equally know the limits human condition imposes on us and that it's pointless. For if they could right now, they likely would. But they likely currently cannot. So it's about leaving people be unless you come by someone who's got "a window open" and is willing to have a chat through it, maybe throwing sth. out or taking something in.
@@KxNOxUTA Thank you for sharing your thoughts with me. I am a social worker, graduated in november. When I started the course I had that mentality of shaking people to make them understand that we all have shadows and the important thing is to work on them in your own terms. But now I see it way more as in: people will change if they want to change. You can create an environment where people will ask for your help if they need something in the process of them changing, but you cannot control them. You can't control anyone. There's only hoping for the best and doing what you can with the psychological and physical resources you have at the moment to help along the way, if they want.
ENFP, I relate. I think another part of the darkness is that when we face challenges we grow but also become a little darker and colder each time we get hurt
@@dcgreatman I guess that's true. An area in my life that I've had some hurt (which is romance) I catch myself being every day more hopeless and i don't like it.
i'm currently being ghosted by my former best friend; and i feel this so much. i acknowledge the nuance of the situation but it's so hard not to hate her. the juxtaposition of wanting her to talk to me and be my best friend again while also wishing she just didnt exist is so hard
One of my most crucial contradictions is "perfectionist, but absolutely imperfect himself", or "perfectionist, but too lazy to actually achieve or do anything". INFP here. Though I'm starting to guess there is a part of ISFP in me...
You deserve an accolade for your precisive thoughts on all of this video. Very true with all the 16. Thankyou.
Hit the Enfj explanation RIGHT on the head😭. I had seen this myself as one and it really is a strange contradiction when one thinks about it for a bit. I could point out nefarious actions (from my viewpoint) taken by my associates but it never really hinders me from well associating with them until these actions might seriously affect either myself or others in a non deserving way, THEN my blood starts to boil, but regardless great way of putting it in the vid😄🙌
Me too! But the quickest way to get my blood boil is lack in simple etiquette and good manners towards others 😅😆
An INFP here. Yes, your assessment is amazingly correct. It rather sums up my whole life.
Here's how it makes perfect sense to me as an ENFP. We are in near constant existential crisis (at least when alone), and have to therefore constantly inspire ourselves out of it.
As you said, we see all of the good and all of the bad as well. All of the potential in every direction.
I definitely see the ISFP warmth/gentle about myself, but I can acknowledge that I am also passionate, even fiery, about some of my perspectives/thoughts/opinions/feelings on various matters/topics/subjects.
Im glad you actually understand types, especially ENFPs. Many channels etc portray us too much like an ESFP party animal only they interpret switch from S to N as more flaky. Its really off base. We are more like if an ENTP (the only other Ne dom) crossed with INFP (Fi dom, which is our auxilary).
Like if an ENTP was genuine very emotionally dramatic and sensitive to feelings, or an INFP became extremely exploratory and assertive.
INTP: Bingo-bango, you deserve a mango
Thank you. I always hate how ENFP jokes feel like they focus on the pixie side. We love to straddle the line between boundaries of intellectual comfort.
I'm an ENTP...but I feel like people see me in reverse. They see the part of me that is constantly energetic and working, while in reality I feel l'm quite lazy behind the scenes. Though, I'll admit, as I've gotten older I've become far more reserved, so maybe my success will look more "effortless" as I change my alone time to my high-energy time.
This video was timed kinda funny as well--for me personally, at least. I graduated high school this summer and am taking a gap year before I head to school next fall. This video struck home because I'll have weeks where my three jobs are wearing me down and I'll do nothing outside of them...but right now, I'm in full-on energy mode. I've got a theology research project going, an intense personal study of a law book I own, a more relaxed personal study of a forensic science book, and a strict writing routine for my philosophical fantasy novel. Sleep is non-existent (though I've been eating a boatload because eating was put on hold while I was in my work-focused phase a few weeks ago, lol).
As a young ENTP, how do you meet deadlines without procrastinating? Really need help there
@@archelynwolf GREAT question. I'll be honest...I have yet to fix my procrastination habit, but I've found that it helps to look at my to-do list and every item on that to-do list as a puzzle. I'll give myself a goal, and then think of my to-do list as the puzzle pieces that will get me there.
Also (and this is more just general time management), think of today's workload as a chance to give yourself more time tomorrow.
Lastly...I used to get REALLY upset about my procrastination problem, but I've realized it can be a strength. Yes, it sucks when I'm working on papers till 3 a.m., but it also means I perform great under pressure. I write my best papers when I've procrastinated on them. I've had two very fast-paced, kinda crazy jobs, and I impressed my bosses at both of those because I performed better as the work got crazier. Yes, it's good to try not to procrastinate, but don't deny the strengths it brings.
Good luck!!
Not me an INFP feeling even worst that I'm an outsider lol
If I actually want to get involved in something I'd like to be given a role that I'm actually good at. A role that if I wasn't there, it wouldn't be as great anymore.
Ps. I also like receiving words of affirmation and praise although I realized it in one of the most frustrating day of my life. But hey, at least I got to know myself better so I'd say that's a win win.
ISFJ here, I agree a lot on the "humble yet proud" description to a degree where I feel called out. (Like spot on man)
Also to my fellow ISFJs, raise your hand if you love to play aggressive support roles xD
I felt called out, too. My husband always wonders why I obsessively take care of others, but refuse to admit when I need help. I think it’s a need to be needed, deep down, that makes me feel like I have to prove my worth by taking care of others. If I can occupy a role that’s indispensable, then I can feel like others aren’t just putting up with my presence. Accepting help threatens that role and therefore my right to occupy that space.
as an intj this was incredibly accurate
this is such a cool video, great concept! the ENFJ was spot on! and I also related a lot to the ESFJ probably because of the dominant Fe
Man you nail it everytime. An INFP who listens to everything but no one listens to moi. When I very rarely speak. Haha.
Lol The ENFP "Just kidding" was a good one. I immediately rolled my eyes before you said that. I just think that one is so overused which I guess is why you made that joke. Anyway! Great video! I definitely related to the ENFJ one for what it's worth.
Wow, I’m an INTJ and that really resonated with me! I’ve been somewhat questioning my type… maybe I’m an ISFP, or INFJ… but that gave me confidence that I am an INTJ. Very true.
No excuses & no regrets,
Regretting things undone can be sharper and more enduring than regrets of things done....
However in this case, i feel this may be better left undone.
~INFP
The forest is closing in and I'm looking for a gap in the trees
You put it so well, I could cry (while laughing) :3
I'm ENTP by the way.
It seems like when I achieved something, my parents just not as excited as when my brother did it.
I'm just confused but now I know why ;D
They say I'm lazy and complained about it a lot but I never fail school and never bring problem home, unlike my brother (he is not problematic or anything. Just the usual teenager stuff). It just that they seems more disappointed on me than on my siblings who actually cause trouble.
He is INTP by the way, and he try to take things slow like me but it just messed up with his grade. And i feel kinda bad, that I brag to him about being lazy and still made it ;D
Bad big sis.
Everything is fine though and i love my family. They are nice people. It just something i noticed.
Thank you for the video!
I'm INTP and I had no trouble in school. At least by the time third grade came around and I realized I had to do my homework.
as an infp, i obviously agreed to the infp one- i also think the world would be a lot better if people took my idea's seriously.
that said, i recognised myself in the contradiction for the ESFJ and the INTJ.
My habits and values are as follows:
I tend to care for people a lot, being very pushy on their wellbeing, but I don't feel like I receive a lot back for it. I don't know if that is because I hang out with the wrong people or something.
My dad is an INTJ as far as I know, he seems extremely self-assured, always seems like he knows what he's doing. I think I picked up a lot of this. I seem very quite sure of what I say when I say something; I know that this is also an INFP trait (where strong values are usually backed by a loud opinion), but this determination of my values is scary to have; because I know that I can be wrong. Not for the same reason as the INTJ though.
The reason I've been so confused about my type is that at home, I am an infp, zoned out and in my own world, but around others, I almost always try to be an enfj. I typically have feelings of great concern for various people, wanting to help them and telling them to get more sleep or drink more water. And that energizes me as much as sitting in my room watching random TH-cam videos and thinking about random things. I don't have that sense of effortless charisma and smoothness that enfjs have, but I have the same ideals. It feels like I aspire to become an enfj, and I almost can, but I don't know if I really am or if that's just wishful thinking.
As an ENFP, I'm laughing cuz my friends kept saying that even though I look like a bubble of optimism, they keep feeling this sense of "dread" whenever they're around me
Basically im dead inside LMAO
😂we are dead inside but we are happy about that 😂😂
lol exactly
Wow, that was really good and very interesting. I really resonate with your description of INFP.
As an ISTJ who scrapped all plans, moved to another country, is following no predefined plan in life and is hating every minute of all the new-ness, but gosh darn'it my principles... I'd say ya nailed it.
An all around great analysis that moves beyond the caricatures of type. Thank you for the quality content, Nathan!
Hmm. I think being raised by an INFJ mother inoculated me against that problem, lol: I am understanding when I need to be, but there's a whole category of "ain't nobody got time for that" which can get people preemptively nope'd. - ENFJ
INTP 3:51 In astrology, Virgo is sometimes referred-to as "Child Of The Mind". This seems to be what INTP is, too.
I am a Virgo and INTP: Coincidence or intelligent design (ID)?
I'd be curious on your mercury placement and it's aspects. As an INTP myself, my mercury is in conjuction with both my moon and Venus Rx in Capricorn 1st house while being squared by Saturn who rules the house in Aries. Mercury heavily projects a need for framework in how I approach my emotions and creativity. Virgo is ruled by mercury, less chaotic than that of Gemini's influence, but nonetheless it's a deep interest in knowledge. Since I'm assuming you are referring to your Sun, the outward projection and sometimes associated with the conscious mind in evolutionary astrology: Virgo Sun definitely could have this effect, especially if Mercury is sitting there as well and Virgo being a 1st or 9th house. I'm rambling at this point. But astrology, actual astrology beyond the fad can give deep insight. There is a reason Jung researched it heavily and came up with archetypes and eventually this personality system. You could say MBTI has roots in archetypes displayed in Astrology and Myth.
I'm an INTP and a Cancer.
Nice , I'm Virgo and INTJ ....
@@PupDeLaTart Yep, INTP’s should (in theory) have quite cerebral placements throughout their chart and it would be interesting to compare a number of charts to see if there are discernible patterns. My Sun Venus and Mars are in Gemini. I also have Mercury in the 1st (Conjunct Asc) in Cancer. Mercury is in trine with Moon and MC, with minor aspects being septile with Saturn, and Bi-quintile with Pluto. An INTP’s Uranus placement would also be interesting to track given that it is often referred to as a higher octave of Mercury
It’s great to see other INTP’s with an interest in Astrology. I was attracted to learn about astrological charts due to my interest in history. Throughout historical times, astrology was a means of interpreting and explaining the world. It only made sense that in order to learn about how people of the past thought, that I explored it myself. Regardless of whether any weight should be applied to it, it’s a great way to provoke deeper thoughts about our own behaviour. It’s extremely unsurprising that Jung looked towards astrology to create the archetypes.
Am an INTP and don't believe in zodiac at all
the ENFP one is too true, i'm like 100% happy and 100% sad all at the same time. the INFP one resonated a lot as well.
You're most likely an ENFP enneagram 4. (There are 3 variations of the enneagram 4) Check it out, see which ones fit.
I, as an INFP, resonated with both the INFP and ENFP
@@nabsnabster3488 I'm an enneagram 5w4 so yes I do see the 4 tendencies in myself, thank you for sharing:D
Well, it relates to me as (probably) an INTJ and for a friend of mine, who is probably an INFJ,
BUT
what worries me a lot is the thing that I somehow find properties of other types also suitable for me. For example, how to avoid mixing the uncertainty of INTJ with the INTP's inclinations to procrastinate due to the wish to think over everything properly? Some contradictions like ENTJ's and others' are also relatable for me.
So, I think, while, e.g., INTJ's property of controlling is 95/100, it doesn't mean theirs (ours) properties of handling, focusing, perception, etc. are 0/100. And how much are those points - that would be interesting to think about, cause every type is a special kind of personality, whose specialties lead to a definite build of other properties, or, at least, a some limited spread of them.
The other MBTIs you mention are 75% you. :)
@@DiminutiveFlower well, maybe. I also need a movie for INTJ - ISTJ comparison, because for all other letters there are already movies on this channel, that make the situation more or less clear: with a HUGE DOUBT I'm not INTP (a bit more utilitarian), clearly not INFJ (f*** people and their social games) and rather not ENTJ (always more out and against the collective, than leading it). Only N/S comparison left.
But I saw a movie "5 reasons you're not INTJ" on another channel, which bases more on cognitive functions analysis, and on 2 points I pass as an INTJ, on 1 strictly out, and on 2 I couldn't give any distinct answer. So I'm in doubts. That author also trolls like, "It's common for INTJs being proud to be an INTJ, but that pride is one of probable hints for mistype" -_-_-_-
As an INTJ, I always have goals and the question is always "is it worth it?". I'm currently in this state and I'm a wreck. Trying to pursue something that might not be worth it in the end. But I still work for it albeit begrudgingly.
I know this feeling.
@@user-ky1sk7kr6t hang in there.
try layering in additional value into the same endeavour so that if the primary reason for it didn’t pan out you can still extract a lot of value for other things from the attempt.
As a depressed ENTP I know this feeling very well (shadow of entp is intj).
Ah...once again while most of the contradictions sound very to the point and I do recognize it from the people I know, I still can't relate to mine...(ISFJ) it might have been because I have been dealing with health issues since my childhood so being in the need for help is a way of living, but I don't think I have any pride in that. I just feel bad for being a burden. And while I am always the one who takes care of others, I am grateful when in need someone will do that for me and I need this support, not just in health matters but in general.
This is superb mbti content!! I have thought of the INFJ one, others not so much. Thank you for existing and sharing!!
That's absolutely true about my life as an ENFJ. Exactly how I expect to hear in this video.
your jacket always makes u look so fluffy. cuz u are🥲
At some point we must call you what you really are. A Genius. Being able to phrase someone mind framework so deeply with such few words. The INTJ part. How many time i refuse to give up on something I still wonder the worth. And how many time I have successfully make it work despite everything. Another thing you say for a different type in another video close to this mindset "" the grasse is greener where you water it"""
Thanks for the video.
Agreed! I love Nathan's insights and can't believe he gets them all so consistently right (or at least they jibe with my own experiences of my wide range of friends). As an ENFP, I'm used to these things getting more wrong than right. Nathan's commentaries are a breath of fresh air. I'll add on that an INTJ great friend and work partner of mine also takes quite a long time to commit to any new project because he doesn't commit lightly. He knows he'll see it to the end, and he's always overworked as it is. But once he's in your corner, you know you're going to hit a home run. Our biggest champion!
"Moral but enablers" is absolutely fair. Signed,
~ ENFJ who dated someone with ASPD for nearly five years
Enfjs ,, dated one for 3 years -- the best out there ,, but they dont accept you , they wanna softly menuplate and change u ,,, also they have dark could over their heads
@@PaperMicShow ENFJ’s often get taken advantage of in a similar way to ESFJ example in the vid but the difference is they may never be able to express their frustration due to a sense of guilt this can give them. This can lead to bitterness and resentment or even emotional explosiveness in an unhealthy ENFJ to those they love.
@@PaperMicShow Everyone knows that not all comfort zones are actually good… be glad someone is nudging you to get you out of your habits… it means they want you in the future.. not just for three years..
@@PaperMicShow we can’t protect you no matter where you are, the forces of nature are very powerful, so you have to be flexible enough to move out of the way or else you perish..
No enfj can protect their loved ones from Nature..
@@PaperMicShow don’t be rigid..
ENTP. I agree with the boundless energy thing. Lazy might be the wrong word. I think ENTPs will do anything to pursue new ideas and laziness doesn’t satisfy that desire. There is definite boredom and leaving projects unfinished, but it’s not from a desire to decompress or relax. It’s from a desire to chase something else.
The description of ESTPs as focusing on constantly changing things, or focusing on too much, also happens to be a good description of ADHD. It’s not an attention deficit, we just focus on the “wrong” things
I was sent for testing because teachers were 'sure' I have ADHD so many times. I don't have ADHD, I'm an ESTP. I don't have any problems focusing and never did. I just wasn't interested in what the teachers are doing.
You described INFPs precisely. I almost teared up.
OMGGGG I TOTALLY FEEL THAT WAY ABOUT MYSELF (I'm an ENFJ)
I notice how i understand why people feel the way they feel and i can somewhat justify them, but then again i still judge them for it depending on how i view morality.
But wow, i was getting a bit nervous as the video progressed bc i was worried that the ENFJ one was gonna be completely nefarious, and i'd hate accepting that i might just agree with what you said (if it was that ENFJs are completely nefarious lol), but not that bad!
I feel like ENFJ stereotypes are that we're manipulative without realizing it and we seem nice and caring but can rip you apart if you cross us or something/someone we care about.
idk, but that's just me.
Enfj here, also waited for our type to be described! Regarding the stereotype, i think most of us know when we’re manipulative, but we may call it ‘persuasion’ in our minds haha
Stellar!! One of this channel's best. I like the different spins on the same data.
This was awesome! omg you never fail to disappoint! i learn a lot from you, and think you’re brilliant
As an Isfj I can attest to this 100%. Spot on 👍🏽
As an ESFP, this was super on point. The obliviousness for me is very much attached to moodiness, as my Fi/Te picks and chooses what I care to observe.
Ohh, a rare ESFP! I was searching for one in this comment section because of how rare they seem - INFP
Wow
Its the ESFP accuracy for me👏🏾
That's all I'm gonna say
Say more! It’s accurate. We won’t mind 😆
intj here and, the overarching slogan for my life IS 'i dont know where im going. i just know im getting there (SUCCESS).'
OF COURSE, you got us nailed EXACTLY.
That's a slogan that I can very much get behind, I like it! ~ Nathan
ESFP is spot-on. My nine-year-old son is a stereotypical esfp. He frustrates me with his inability to remember to complete tasks in his daily life, but then will shock me by pointing out minute details of past experiences especially physical surroundings.
In behalf of all of my fellow ESFPs, we are sorry. I can’t imagine having to have parented myself. I have an ENTP child, so I guess I’m getting my comeuppance! 😆
My daughter also, dje says she has a "memory box" to remember all things, but cant stay on track with a mission
@@sirbradfordofhousejones I love being my ESFP 's mom. He makes me want to strangle him sometimes, but he's so much fun too and I just live his observations and Outlook on life 🥰
Dating an ESFP is exactly like this. Zero memory of half our last conversation (which he was really passionate about at the time), followed by an amazing observation of our relationship dynamic over the years. Plus, he folds towels like nobody's business 😏
@@MelanieHooks hahaha… sigh. 😂 Very relatable
You’re the best …. So clear and you don’t stray off topic.
I appreciate your effort to communicate clearly.
ISFP here. You forgot to mention our need for independence, big time!
I must say this is one of your best 👌 Very insightful and on point
*Cough*
UM ... Yeah. Intelligent yet child like. Spot on. I'm still willing to read children's books and I play little games with myself like avoiding walking on cracks or hopping from tile to tile in a pattern. ~ INTP
I'm so cynical! Yet, I see the beauty in so many things! You've got the ENFP down perfectly.
I am intj. My best friend in secondary school is isfp. I can definitely relate to the fiery side of them. Before we know about MBTI types we had a lot of fun in our relationship. I guess it it’s the Fi-Ni fusion that we share that allows us to fall crazy out of the world with each other…
Loved this video. I'm an INFJ and I think your INFJ one was super accurate.
Judging people of how they act yet completely understanding them and accepting them at the same time. This is so spot on! It makes sense, Ti is still in our function stack and we can detect all sort of character flaws in people :)
As INTP I agree
When does the INTP part appear?
My dog is ESFP
Insightful, as always 💯
Hi, always cool to see you in the comments. If you ever join the discord come find me on there ~ Nathan
I love the emotional scientist title you gave to INFJ! It's scary how accurate it is.
10:45 ENFJs (looking out for my pals)
😂
Thanks, Mate! 😄
very well done! how often do I mention that enfp is cynical (overall mostly) yet the heart melts in specific moments all the time anyway
all are spot on imo👍
oh and also: I was half thinking that smart but stupid would fit enfp too
but you found a more specific one
Yup ISTP is on point, ready for almost anything but try to force us and we will instantly be up in arms 😅
INFP
I felt an incredible moment of being seen
Thank you
ENFP is absolutely true in my case. People gravitate towards me because of this happy, bubbly energy and once get close they go: what the actual fffff…
I really appreciate how you put estps first. And thanks for putting a positive spin on inability to hold focus - i'm just concentrating too much...yes!
For all the INTJ: 6:32
The question of 'Is this thing I'm investing time, money, effort, thought, etc. into going to be worth it in the long run?' is indeed haunting. I think that's why I can seem so uncertain at times. I struggle with self-doubt and an expectation of ultimate failure sometimes, so even though I am driven to set goals, plan and organize towards those goals almost by instinct, I doubt that I can achieve the goal and/or that the goal will be worthwhile if I somehow manage to succeed in it. If I do manage to set a goal that is achievable, worthwhile and can keep my insecurities at bay for the time being, I can become an unstoppable force that plows through all obstacles to achieve the goal.
I can relate to your description of an INFJ here as well sometimes. When I'm not stressed out, or too busy driving towards a goal - when I'm sort of 'idling' and allowing myself to rest and be in the moment, I can become intensely observant of what is going on around me and with other people. When I was a little kid and wasn't burdened with all these responsibilities and such, I was even more this way. I felt like an observer rather than part of things. Like an alien sent to see what the Earthlings were up to. I've always been rather passive and unemotional in terms of expressing them, but was especially so then. I've lost track of how many times people have turned to me for advice or to be a sounding board. My older sister even used to talk to me about her problems, knowing that I wouldn't tell a soul. Not because she threatened me if I did tell, but because she just knew that I wasn't the sort of person who would gossip in the first place.
To some degree, I'm still often finding myself in an advisory role. Some of my best jobs have had an aspect to them where I was to give customers advice about something. Sometimes, even perfect strangers will just start talking to me while we are waiting in the doctors office, or at a bus stop etc. I guess I just come across as a good listener. What you said about being 'emotional scientists' is interesting. I often find myself observing and analyzing everything like it's a science experiment. I'll find myself thinking things like "I wonder what reaction I would get if I told my wife about something I've been noticing in This way rather than That way?" for example.
Haha and people get mad at us, ENFJs, that we can’t make decisions fast - what do you expect when we consider and understand everyone’s opinions that influence our morals? haha; and then we can’t even stand on the ‘agree’ or ‘disagree’ side, because we see both of these have good points that back them up lol
I recently noticed that I pretty often zoone out when chilling with people, just enjoying the moment, but not really being the part of it. But when I'm in a mood when I have to achieve something or simply I have to do a good job, I can notice more in my surroundings, be even crazy fast at preventing some disasters! Thank you for not underestimating esfp Nathan:)
ENFP being cynical is really true. Typically it's been now 2 months in raw that I'm in this phase and I can't get out of it. It drains me a lot. Being the bubbly person is not that funny. Yes I prefer to entertain people rather talking about the bad things, I prefer to light up their life rather than they became like me. Our inner world is really dark. Big kids with an old soul.
You seem nefarious so I am INTERESTED AND YET ALSO totally judging you right now! Hmm but hey I also accept you for you being you! Bang on!
Definitely a wolf in the soft pelt of a polyester black sheep
Emotional scientist. You can just say I intellectualize my feelings. It's cool. I already know.
👍🏼 Love it! Thanks for not being brutal…
The INTP take was pretty funny. I like it.
0_o I dislike being quite so specifically perceived yet am strangely comforted by the insight. Accurate. Intj
Glad to hear it! Hopefully you've checked out the other INTJ videos on here as well since they go in depth more than these ones ~ Nathan
If INFJs are the feeling person's thinkers, which type is the thinking person's feeler?
ENTJ, INTJ, ESTJ, ISTJ, ENTP, INTP, ESTP, or ISTP?
And what would "feeling" mean in this instance? Is it being in touch with one's own feelings? Being in touch with others' feelings? Caring about others' feelings?
I love your hair! My son should get this haircut!