Andrew seems like a really nice chap and good for him for getting some sponsorhip perks out of his hobby. But nothing brings me more joy than to know this "superbike" just got beaten by an old, 2016 rim brake rig covered in graffiti. It's hilarious.
Stop being grumpy. Fantastic piece of engineering. Some people can afford this bike, good for them. Not me, so what? Am I jealous ? Not at all, I am perfectly happy with my 2 700€ bike. Period.
the era for premium bike is over 😂. today more people tight their budget. and make a less purchase for a hobby. if it affect upper class that mean the middle class is 👉 💀💀. 😂😂😂😂
Totally. I'm on the opinion the average entry level bike is definitely expensive these days. However, if a brand wants to make small numbers of very expensive frames, I have zero problems. As I have zero problems with cars costing 2million, other than the environmental impact. And yet i don't think any auto enthusiast despairs at their price... Feather was given this bike, at the very minimum. Good on him! He trains hard on top or a job, gets results, and he isn't a youngster either. Great to see an amateur athlete given this sort of sponsorship. PS: I have zero intentions of ever buying a frame like this.
Agreed. I weight 69KG at 6 foot tall and I am happy beating people with expensive bikes up hills. They are all good sports! Cyclists in person are generally nicer than online, as with other areas online, just except the comments! Part of it.
Stop being dumpy, being able to afford or not is in no way a relevant measure for whether something is worth the price or not. Especially when you realise that he got beaten by an 8 year old rim brake Sir Velo with graffiti on it.
My 2018 Supersix Evo hi mod is 4.9kg. Bike cost £2k second hand puts £2k ax lightness wheels and second hand upgrades from eBay.. total spent less than £5k.
My stock (only changed tires) Supersix Evo Hi Mod is 6.6 kg. That was £400 total second hand with Dura Ace 9000. I could build to sub 5 kg easily for under £2000 all in.
@@7gibbens for analytics & post event insight. Also I sent my SiSL2 left crank arm off to 4iiii for a factory fit power meter - it came back 11g heavier.. I can live with that given the insight and pacing benefits 😊
@@finarollerz is that why a rim brake bike just won the hill climb championship 😁😁 Andy went disc brake and lost his hill climb championship to a second hand rim brake bike purchased from face book market 😁😁
You could make it lighter with different disc brake rotors and removing the buttons and circuit board from the left shifter. Also titanium axles in the pedals.
Has anyone else also heard of this revolutionary braking technology being in development? Apparently it’s much lighter and you can use your wheels to break without adding extra components onto them too
I think it's good, the tech will trickle down. But I would like to see his discuss how he gets his body weight so low (v low fat). My guess is low energy density food. And fast refuelling just the right amount with carbs. We can all make far more of a difference than this bike with diet!
Are there rules on having gears and 2 brakes for these events? I'm curious how much you actually may shift or not in such a short event, could you run it singlespeed, lose the rear der entirely and use a tensioner or if you got lucky, none needed if chain length good, and ditch the levers entirely and run a TT base bar for hand position? If you got the height right it'd be doable for 3 minutes, and you'd lose another kg or more?
U need 2 working brakes, if u r on a fixie thats already one. But i think they changes gears, as the gradient changes, but ofc its possible to do without, but probably doesnt worth it.
Most people in the comments don't understand what hill climbing is all about, that's it's a nieche way of cycling and that it's also about the fun of tinkering with your bike
There is no need to get hung up on the word monocoque. Other brands are not lying....did you know F1 teams produce their tubs in two halves first, then join them together for the inner skins stage? Is that still a "true" monocoque??
@@yourdeadjack I know he’s sponsored. I was highlighting the absurd price of the frame. Every component might be considered top end, but not Hunt. Simply light.
LOLZ. My 2x12 aero bike with 25mm Continental Sprinters and a comfy saddle weighs 90 grams less, and cost me 1/4 the price... because it has rim brakes. 😂
Nobody in the comments section seems to understand how expensive the hobbies are for accomplished men. They also have no clue how expensive a large mold is.
No, we don't need the UCI to control everything. They have very shady practices where they allow certain rides to take drugs while they ban others. In the end, it's all about making money. Thx but no thx.
And he got beat by a guy on a 16yr old rim brake bike covered in tipp ex. I like Feather but glad he lost as nice to be reminded you dont need these stupidly priced disc brake bikes when you can get a secondhand rim brake bike for peanuts. The irony is Feathers Cannondale rim brake probably would've got him the win Sunday. Downsides of being a sponsored rider!
Honestly not that impressive. My disc brakes Ultimate CFR comes at 5.8kg with 45mm aero wheels, 12x2 Dura-Ace 9200, pedals, garmin and varia mounts and a bar tape 😀 And its painted. This build cost me around €13,000.
I wonder what happens if you run over a marble-sized pebble on a descent and it flies up and smacks the downtube. Bikes like this are fun to look at but unless the sponsor is buying you a replacement every time they encounter the real world, they're basically single-use items.
Ok as cool as this is, what’s the point aside from bragging rights? I mean the guy says it’s 300 grams lighter than the last bike. That’s ten ounces. Take a piss and there you go. I just saved you thousands of dollars.
@@jpvdw1961 exactly. Men suffer through graduate school, men get certified in professional skills and trades, men sacrifice everything to get their businesses off the ground. TBH, cycling is a rather inexpensive hobby compared to cars and boats and flying and high end audio and such.
Hideous it is, extremely ripoff yes! $4,000 manufacturing cost, with a 6x profit margin, perfect scenario! Colnago V4RS, with Dura ace Di2 is a million times better at $12,000!
Hillclimbing needs rules & regs otherwise it's not really a fair contest. The lightest bloke on the lightest bike wins. Bring in a motorsport style BOP, and make it interesting, and more people can win. Spending that much for a niche competition is just nonsensical.
that's the point, mate! it's about having fun, tinkering with your bike and going as light as possible while maintaining power. It's not for everybody and it's not about a "level playing field"
Andrew seems like a really nice chap and good for him for getting some sponsorhip perks out of his hobby. But nothing brings me more joy than to know this "superbike" just got beaten by an old, 2016 rim brake rig covered in graffiti. It's hilarious.
2008 cervelo
Someone had even drawn a cock and balls on the frame 🤣
Stop being grumpy. Fantastic piece of engineering. Some people can afford this bike, good for them. Not me, so what? Am I jealous ? Not at all, I am perfectly happy with my 2 700€ bike. Period.
the era for premium bike is over 😂. today more people tight their budget. and make a less purchase for a hobby.
if it affect upper class that mean the middle class is 👉 💀💀.
😂😂😂😂
Totally. I'm on the opinion the average entry level bike is definitely expensive these days. However, if a brand wants to make small numbers of very expensive frames, I have zero problems. As I have zero problems with cars costing 2million, other than the environmental impact. And yet i don't think any auto enthusiast despairs at their price...
Feather was given this bike, at the very minimum. Good on him! He trains hard on top or a job, gets results, and he isn't a youngster either. Great to see an amateur athlete given this sort of sponsorship.
PS: I have zero intentions of ever buying a frame like this.
Agreed. I weight 69KG at 6 foot tall and I am happy beating people with expensive bikes up hills. They are all good sports! Cyclists in person are generally nicer than online, as with other areas online, just except the comments! Part of it.
Even your 2700 euro bike feels too expensive for me, but I also don't mind. I don't need that kind of kit.
People just wanna be angry at everything.
Stop being dumpy, being able to afford or not is in no way a relevant measure for whether something is worth the price or not. Especially when you realise that he got beaten by an 8 year old rim brake Sir Velo with graffiti on it.
why having a disc brake bike for hill climb? He could have achieved the same weight with a 2000 euro rim brake bike
he probably sponsored to do that
Do you think he shaves his head because that saves 100g?
It would be disappointing if he didn't - don't u think?
it typically saves about 25g... my mate did it
Good one 😂
It's only because chicks dig it
a kidney weights more though and you can eventually afford Andrews bike
My 2018 Supersix Evo hi mod is 4.9kg. Bike cost £2k second hand puts £2k ax lightness wheels and second hand upgrades from eBay.. total spent less than £5k.
My stock (only changed tires) Supersix Evo Hi Mod is 6.6 kg. That was £400 total second hand with Dura Ace 9000. I could build to sub 5 kg easily for under £2000 all in.
This bike might also be UCI compliant
My Focus izalco Max,rim brakes,with superlight prototype carbon weels,with dura ace kit and fsa kforce light weights 5.870kg,but costs only 4000.👍
and external cable routing for the cherry on top. love mine!
@@NewEnglandDirtRoadie yes sir!top.
But if you emergency braked from 80+kph you’d blow up your rims…
@@LGBhull i dont need to descend at 80kph.im fine if i do 60 or 65.
If you ride on feel, why add the extra weight of a power meter?
@@7gibbens for analytics & post event insight. Also I sent my SiSL2 left crank arm off to 4iiii for a factory fit power meter - it came back 11g heavier.. I can live with that given the insight and pacing benefits 😊
I run on the feel. Why do I need to add heavy bike to my legs? 😀
37 seconds in and I’m sure feather is sitting in a wheelchair 😂
I searched the comments for this 😁😁
I did wonder if anyone would think this...😅 The decision to put the spare wheels next to the chair was certainly an interesting choice 😂 - Matt
Disc brake hill climb bike 😂😂😂
true
Just came 2nd place to an old rim bike hahahah
Andrew comes across as a very, very classy guy. If only everyone represented themself and their sport so overwhelmingly well.
Such a lovely guy and a brilliant rider!
New Technology= Rim Brakes 👍👍
Yah, why this have discs?
@@finarollerz is that why a rim brake bike just won the hill climb championship 😁😁
Andy went disc brake and lost his hill climb championship to a second hand rim brake bike purchased from face book market 😁😁
@@TESTA-CC yup, see Eddy on “upgrades”😂
You could make it lighter with different disc brake rotors and removing the buttons and circuit board from the left shifter. Also titanium axles in the pedals.
Disc brakes? Wtf?
I'm waiting for the time when there comes a graphene monolayer bike. Finally a true single crystalline single layer carbon bike.
i love all the andrew's bikes, hes very nice guy and good ciclist
21k for 5.5kg is crazy! The new scott addict rc is 5.9kg at half that price and it can probably be lighter than 5.5kg with acouple changes
Has anyone else also heard of this revolutionary braking technology being in development? Apparently it’s much lighter and you can use your wheels to break without adding extra components onto them too
Sick bike. Imagine this bad boy on rim brakes. The weight would be insane! :D
I'm on 21c Tubular Tyres in Winter 🥶
I'm pretty sure this will win in 2024 British Up Hill Climb with that price and weight.
Not anymore 😁😁 second hand bike with rim brakes off Facebook market. Harry MAC 🤙🤙 king of the hill.
So an off the shelf Aethos is 100 grams lighter? Good to know
Rotor crank ? THM is the way to go
I for one am shocked that bike companies haven't fully capitalized off non-uci-legal hill climb bikes.
or full race bikes
Maybe because it is quite niche and not such a strong selling point as having the same bike as a pro winning races with the bike
Well i think Specialized did that with the Aethos and i guess it wasn't a profit. Me? I'm currently riding a supersix evo ultimate. 2012.
Hill climbing doesnt exist outside of the UK
you can only capitalize of something if you can mass produce it, hence hill climbing is not something a big company could turn a profit on.
Some of these comments, let the man enjoy his bike & push his climbing in ways you only wish you could.
The value of Andrew's latest hill climb bike is ridiculous,thats the value of 2 Pro Tour Team bike's,i can't believe it's worth £21000.
Very expensive. Last year, some participants had sub 5kg bikes for much less money.
I was gonna say good luck, but he's probably gonna win again 🤣
He didn't. Came 2nd to a rim brakes bike
@@hcw199 Yeah! I saw that. It was close though. Harry Mac is a beast on short climbs.
Could all this weight loss, and more be made starting with Specialised Aethos
They should do a single day 3 stage race with different climbs.
Bike bling is killing the sport , the look at my bike price tag brigade are everywhere most full into the category of all the gear no idea
I think it's good, the tech will trickle down. But I would like to see his discuss how he gets his body weight so low (v low fat). My guess is low energy density food. And fast refuelling just the right amount with carbs. We can all make far more of a difference than this bike with diet!
Could just be my eyes, but on the last pic of frame, im sure I can see over lap joints to head tube
5.58kg is heavy and isn’t it also UCI compliant?
Are there rules on having gears and 2 brakes for these events? I'm curious how much you actually may shift or not in such a short event, could you run it singlespeed, lose the rear der entirely and use a tensioner or if you got lucky, none needed if chain length good, and ditch the levers entirely and run a TT base bar for hand position? If you got the height right it'd be doable for 3 minutes, and you'd lose another kg or more?
U need 2 working brakes, if u r on a fixie thats already one. But i think they changes gears, as the gradient changes, but ofc its possible to do without, but probably doesnt worth it.
you have no chance on winning on a single-speed since most hills have different inclines and such
You can not make diskbrake bike under 3000 euro below 5.5kg..but you can setup rimbrake bike with budget 3000 euro with 5.5 kg weight
why are the hoods turned up like that? is it just a position
Because he's out if the saddle most of the time going uphill
People saying go lighter. Yes I’m sure he could but there’s a point at which a lighter bike would not handle as well as Andrew’s at this weight
Most people in the comments don't understand what hill climbing is all about, that's it's a nieche way of cycling and that it's also about the fun of tinkering with your bike
So its still about 2.7kg heavier than that old worlds lightest hillclimb monster bike if anyone remeber that 2.7kg bike?
An Aethos ready to paint frame would be lighter so I don’t see much point
Stiffness
I think the weight advertised for the aethos is for hte smallest size and would be heavier than this at his size.
I have a 5.2kg Canyon Evo road bike which cost me £2000. Why so much money for Feather's?
Because new bikes are more expensive than second hand ones.
I think it's the frame which costs so much but it a ridiculous price.😏
Hexham in Northumberlandshire?
Amazing bike, he’s going to smash everyone at the hill climb champs…
he came second - by a second!!
Monocoque means nothing single strand is everything. strands of carbon that run through out the entire frame is what would be efficient
wild indeed, because how wild it is to ask this much for a bicycle...
I only want to know. did he win on the bike?
🚨 SPOLIERS 🚨
He came 2nd
That's a Feather weight!
Did he choose the lightweight life or did it choose him?
There is no need to get hung up on the word monocoque. Other brands are not lying....did you know F1 teams produce their tubs in two halves first, then join them together for the inner skins stage? Is that still a "true" monocoque??
Frame must be around €15,000! Hunt tubulars on such an expensive bike?
He’s sponsored. Hasn’t paid for any part on that bike. Well done to him. He’s paid to ride.
@@yourdeadjack I know he’s sponsored. I was highlighting the absurd price of the frame. Every component might be considered top end, but not Hunt. Simply light.
Shorter wheel base means less of a straight line
I note his bike is literally right behind him at the cafe. I would be the same lol
Yea we defo weren't parking this one around the corner 😂
LOLZ. My 2x12 aero bike with 25mm Continental Sprinters and a comfy saddle weighs 90 grams less, and cost me 1/4 the price... because it has rim brakes. 😂
11k for a frame set, wow
This is the top of the top. Quit wining about price.
A true monocoque is not that expensive. An Elves Vanyar 2018 was around 900€.
Its comical that generic, painted S-WORKS SL8 frame is lighter that this boutique frameset, with "unique" technology and materials.
Nobody in the comments section seems to understand how expensive the hobbies are for accomplished men. They also have no clue how expensive a large mold is.
Andrew Feather aka the Twig.
'Radial tyres?'
Dont have to mention who's bike it is. Just look at the position of the shifters...😂
Iconic
Aethos would be lighter. No?
All that money and he still didn’t win again a £2000 rim brake home made 2008 bike 😂
I am a firm believer that amateur riders should comply with the UCI’s requirements. So 6.8 kg minimum and no e-bikes etc.
No, we don't need the UCI to control everything. They have very shady practices where they allow certain rides to take drugs while they ban others. In the end, it's all about making money.
Thx but no thx.
Why?
And he got beat by a guy on a 16yr old rim brake bike covered in tipp ex. I like Feather but glad he lost as nice to be reminded you dont need these stupidly priced disc brake bikes when you can get a secondhand rim brake bike for peanuts. The irony is Feathers Cannondale rim brake probably would've got him the win Sunday. Downsides of being a sponsored rider!
Honestly not that impressive. My disc brakes Ultimate CFR comes at 5.8kg with 45mm aero wheels, 12x2 Dura-Ace 9200, pedals, garmin and varia mounts and a bar tape 😀 And its painted. This build cost me around €13,000.
5.8kg disk brake? With deep section wheels? Wow, seriously impressive
5.8kg .. You sure not 6.8 .. wow 😮
I wonder what happens if you run over a marble-sized pebble on a descent and it flies up and smacks the downtube. Bikes like this are fun to look at but unless the sponsor is buying you a replacement every time they encounter the real world, they're basically single-use items.
Ok as cool as this is, what’s the point aside from bragging rights? I mean the guy says it’s 300 grams lighter than the last bike. That’s ten ounces. Take a piss and there you go. I just saved you thousands of dollars.
But he can also take a piss and save 600 grams 🤷♂️
@@rob-c.exactly 💪
€10,900 for the framest!? GTFOH. How are there people that can just overlook the price?
In the name of performance money is not a problem for most pros
@@pneumonoultramicroscopicsi7908 Oh for pros it makes sense. I highly doubt they pay for them or at least not at full price.
GTFOH? Oh good grief, Dong. Accomplished men have expensive hobbies.
How? They get off the couch, move outta mom's basement, work their tail off and make loads of dough. Not a horrible concept to grasp
@@jpvdw1961 exactly. Men suffer through graduate school, men get certified in professional skills and trades, men sacrifice everything to get their businesses off the ground. TBH, cycling is a rather inexpensive hobby compared to cars and boats and flying and high end audio and such.
23mm tires!!! Hahahah but they said wide tires are faster!
It's a hill climb bike only. Guess that info went straight over your noggin
@@jpvdw1961rolling resistance for climbing even more relevant
21k and has Hunt rims 😂😂😂
Anything over $3000 is a waste of your money
Anything over $150 is a waste of your money.
Hideous it is, extremely ripoff yes! $4,000 manufacturing cost, with a 6x profit margin, perfect scenario! Colnago V4RS, with Dura ace Di2 is a million times better at $12,000!
You've never priced out a large autoclave mold, have you?
You have absolutely no idea how expensive a large mold is. Especially if you have such a small customer base to spread the investment across.
For that price it better make coffee and laundry lol
Formula 1 world champions must love how cheap cyclist sport is
Hello
Nice guy but a snowflake. He couldn't even ride up L'Alpe d'huez as quickly as Tom Pidcock even though Pidcock had raced already for 100+ Km
Another video from a cycling yt channel pushing a bike that 99.99% of riders would never buy. How novel.
“Pushing” 😂 They’re not expecting any of us to buy one
@@rob-c. Yes, pushed in the sense that high end bikes are what's featured most often.
Totally waste of money for fashion victims
Hillclimbing needs rules & regs otherwise it's not really a fair contest. The lightest bloke on the lightest bike wins. Bring in a motorsport style BOP, and make it interesting, and more people can win.
Spending that much for a niche competition is just nonsensical.
that's the point, mate! it's about having fun, tinkering with your bike and going as light as possible while maintaining power. It's not for everybody and it's not about a "level playing field"
Except there were lighter people on lighter bikes last year that didn’t win. Good argument.
Tell me you know nothing about hill climbing without telling me
Yawn. It's way too specialist for super lightweight guys. The rest of us should be on metal, ideally titanium, because it's forever and 100% reliable.
Obscene.
That's just stupid
Buying 21K bike is like voting for Trump, -stupid.
Very overpriced
This is why bike industry is falling………..