These are excellent starting points for all cyclists. As we become more experienced (addicted), making further adjustments can fine tune our ultimate bike fit. Like most things, bike fit is a process that will change with experience, health, age, etc. The local bike shop should usually be the place to go if it's your first bike. Lots of first time mistakes can be avoided with a bit of professional help.
Oo, this was a good one, guys! Thank you! I love the idea of showing us the correct form when we're doing something so we don't injure ourselves to begin with. How about one on raking leaves as a lot of us will be doing that soon!
I ❤️🚴♀️. I’ve had several back surgeries. I can’t run anymore so cycling is my “go to” for exercise. I stretch & drink lots of water. Great information guys!! Y’all are so cute! Thank you for all your videos!
You guys are awesome! Both funny and informative. I am a senior female and believe me, the seat or discomfort thereof is an issue the older I get. But cycling is still fun...
You guys make living with pain bearable. Thanks for the useful information. I think most of my problems come from improper bike fitting. Neck pain shoulder pain now left leg sciatica. You guys are my go to. Thanks again.
Thanks for this content. Will be getting my first bike in a week and I am suffering from knee bursitis and arthritis and unable to run anymore and I was wondering how I should setup my bike properly. This answers all my questions. :)
Easy & Expert English Set-Up. There's no such word as heighth . Part of the setup should also be handlebar height and reach. What you covered was simply the seat position. Seat position, crank length, handlebar height and handlebar stem length are all part of a correct setup. The position under the foot of the axle is something that is still disputed. I agree with Bob and Brad that it should be where indicated but some pro cyclists prefer it further back under the arch. Scott Hansen is 1 of them and he has spoken about it on some youtube videos.
Between 9 and 14 degrees knee flexion is considered too much by every professional bike fitter I have ever heard. Between 20 and 25 degrees is considered the norm, otherwise your backside starts to rock from side to side.
One very important thing not mentioned in the video is. If you get serious enough into riding you will get cycling shoes and cleats. These need special adjustments usually done at the bike shop. The best cleat system give you about 15 degree of lateral foot rotation from side to side. And your seat will have to be repositioned because of the sole and cleat thickness. If cleats aren’t adjusted correctly you will definitely get knee pain and the only remedy is proper cleat adjustment. Anyway happy cycling. Thanks Bob & Brad for the great tips.
Could you'll do a similar video for Desk Cycles. I had bought one for my elderly mother. & to tried it before asking her to use it. I found it hurt my neck. I have since found you'll and moved it to a sturdier, solid back chair but now am having sciatica problems. Thank you for all your videos.
So you have a link for where I can order the devices used to convert the bike for “inside” use? Still rehabbing from bilateral knee replacement and hitting the streets is not always an option with winter coming. Don’t want to loose ROM. Thanks!
Great to know this information! What a difference these adjustments make! Do the professional racers that stretch over their bikes with their heads up, get a lot of neck pain-I wonder?
They sure do. Pros in Europe ride 120 mile a day for 21 days straight (tour de France) and many other races all season. Pros have custom made bicycle frames made to their body specs and a total professional fit done. They get paid millions so they can’t get injured with an improper bike fitment. Even as an amateur cyclist myself I suffer from an improper bike fit, but a good bike fit takes about 2 hours and 150 dollars. I need to get one. Good pointers are all over youtube. But these guys are a great start. They know their stuff.
They sure do. Pros in Europe ride 120 mile a day for 21 days straight (tour de France) and many other races all season. Pros have custom made bicycle frames made to their body specs and a total professional fit done. They get paid millions so they can’t get injured with an improper bike fitment. Even as an amateur cyclist myself I suffer from an improper bike fit, but a good bike fit takes about 2 hours and 150 dollars. I need to get one. Good pointers are all over youtube. But these guys are a great start. They know their stuff.
Thank you. My son 10 years, he use to cycle 4-8 km per day, feels pain below butts, not exactly butts but below it and up to the biceps. If any suggestion then plz let me know.
THANK YOU! My sweet husband a few years ago purchased me a bike, and it was an uncomfortable monster. I rode mountain bikes for years and loved them. But this road bike was way too big for me to ride comfortable and I had to jump up to get on. And well I literly have to lean over to get off this monster, not to mention the falls I have taken. He used a store clerk who must have been 6 foot to size the bike. I am 5'4". The last fall I took I gave up biking. I am now know as a hiker!
Bike fit is very individualized....I understand you’re speaking to the average person out there just riding around, but more aggressive setups really can be comfortable, even for hours at a time. It’s a combination of bike setup and the riding position. A strong core is paramount to minimize back issues when riding. I think Bob’s saddle position is fine in terms of fore and aft. On that frame, you wouldn’t want to sit straight up. That’s how a cruiser is set up, but not his hybrid. That slight flex forward is fine, but he needs to keep his weight on his sit bones and perhaps just a few degrees of nose down. Level saddle is a good starting place, but generally needs a tweak.
I'm a subscriber and love you guys but there is some really bad info here. As an avid cyclist and bike fitter I have to call you out on this. First lets talk about saddle height & knee extension angle at bottom of pedal stroke. 10 to 14 degrees is WAY wrong and will almost guarantee lower back issues, quite possibly hip flexor issues and possible knee issues . With shoes on (and assuming if you are using cleats that they are positioned correctly) clipped in, wearing the bibs / shorts you typically wear and after spinning for a few minutes to normalize, the correct range including the Holmes method recommends that be between 25° and 35° when at bottom dead center. I find most the people I do fits for preferred range between range 28 to 30. Pros often prefer 20-25 especially on a TT bike....but 10 to 14 is a no no. Way too much extension. Next keep in mind that when you drop your saddle height it will change your position fore / aft because of the seat tube angle...Dropping saddle height moves you forward and raising moves you back, so recheck your KOP (knee over pedal) position and if you adjust fore or aft recheck your saddle height because the saddle rails are on an angle...moving the seat back will actually drop the saddle height and moving it forward will increase the saddle height so fine tuning will be in order. Do keep in mind that a few millimeters off can be the difference of being comfortable or pain and injury. Lastly Brad and I say this with all due respect....what the hell is with your bar position???...that is the most grotesque tri - aero bar position I have ever seen! I really don't know were to start to address that!I would recommend you correct the info and maybe have an actual bike fitter come on and present bike fit info to keep your subscribers informed and pain free. By the way it looks like your crank length is too long..this can close hip angle at the top of the pedal cycle causing hip issues which makes people think they need to raise their saddle.Take care and ride safe!
That maybe ok for a beginner to set up his/her own bike but there is nothing expert about setting up a bike that way except raising the handlebars for back problems.
These are excellent starting points for all cyclists. As we become more experienced (addicted), making further adjustments can fine tune our ultimate bike fit. Like most things, bike fit is a process that will change with experience, health, age, etc. The local bike shop should usually be the place to go if it's your first bike. Lots of first time mistakes can be avoided with a bit of professional help.
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Oo, this was a good one, guys! Thank you! I love the idea of showing us the correct form when we're doing something so we don't injure ourselves to begin with. How about one on raking leaves as a lot of us will be doing that soon!
Great video guys, I've watched many videos on this because of my back n knees and you took 11 min and 30seconds, simplified.
I ❤️🚴♀️. I’ve had several back surgeries. I can’t run anymore so cycling is my “go to” for exercise. I stretch & drink lots of water. Great information guys!! Y’all are so cute!
Thank you for all your videos!
This video was soooo helpful 🙏🏻😌
You guys are awesome! Both funny and informative. I am a senior female and believe me,
the seat or discomfort thereof is an issue the older I get. But cycling is still fun...
You guys make living with pain bearable. Thanks for the useful information. I think most of my problems come from improper bike fitting. Neck pain shoulder pain now left leg sciatica. You guys are my go to. Thanks again.
yes thank you brad and bob!!!
Thanks for this content. Will be getting my first bike in a week and I am suffering from knee bursitis and arthritis and unable to run anymore and I was wondering how I should setup my bike properly. This answers all my questions. :)
Easy & Expert English Set-Up. There's no such word as heighth .
Part of the setup should also be handlebar height and reach. What you covered was simply the seat position. Seat position, crank length, handlebar height and handlebar stem length are all part of a correct setup.
The position under the foot of the axle is something that is still disputed. I agree with Bob and Brad that it should be where indicated but some pro cyclists prefer it further back under the arch. Scott Hansen is 1 of them and he has spoken about it on some youtube videos.
Great tips as always, thank you.👍
Great job, thank you
Thank you for this video
Between 9 and 14 degrees knee flexion is considered too much by every professional bike fitter I have ever heard. Between 20 and 25 degrees is considered the norm, otherwise your backside starts to rock from side to side.
Excellent advice Thanks again
Plumb Bob. No pun intended.😁
Good one
Thank you 🙏
he looks so majestic!!!
Sir plz suggest can I use bicycle in bulging disc ???
b&b, i like the quotations you insert at the beginning of a segment..
Great Video! Also, does the size of seat matter along with softness vs hardness? My sciatic always gets aggravated after a long bike ride.
That was very helpful. I've taken up bicycle riding because my lower back gets very tight (painful) and a bike ride loosens it up quite efficiently.
Now what if you don't know how to ride a bike like that but use a stationary bike. Any tricks or tips?
Great front wheel, is that a cross 1?
Will this work with a peloton? I am having knee pain on my peloton
Thanks for you amazing tutorials...
I have a question, If I'm using the bike backwards, does this help in focusing on some other muscles ❓
One very important thing not mentioned in the video is. If you get serious enough into riding you will get cycling shoes and cleats. These need special adjustments usually done at the bike shop. The best cleat system give you about 15 degree of lateral foot rotation from side to side. And your seat will have to be repositioned because of the sole and cleat thickness. If cleats aren’t adjusted correctly you will definitely get knee pain and the only remedy is proper cleat adjustment. Anyway happy cycling. Thanks Bob & Brad for the great tips.
nice man i shared twice
Could you'll do a similar video for Desk Cycles. I had bought one for my elderly mother. & to tried it before asking her to use it. I found it hurt my neck. I have since found you'll and moved it to a sturdier, solid back chair but now am having sciatica problems. Thank you for all your videos.
Nice! You can keep your back straight in a lower position by being more flexible in the hammies.
Any recommendation for an affordable bike trainer/stand?
Is it acl partial tear suitable to do bike exercise?
So you have a link for where I can order the devices used to convert the bike for “inside” use? Still rehabbing from bilateral knee replacement and hitting the streets is not always an option with winter coming. Don’t want to loose ROM. Thanks!
Great to know this information! What a difference these adjustments make! Do the professional racers that stretch over their bikes with their heads up, get a lot of neck pain-I wonder?
They sure do. Pros in Europe ride 120 mile a day for 21 days straight (tour de France) and many other races all season. Pros have custom made bicycle frames made to their body specs and a total professional fit done. They get paid millions so they can’t get injured with an improper bike fitment.
Even as an amateur cyclist myself I suffer from an improper bike fit, but a good bike fit takes about 2 hours and 150 dollars. I need to get one. Good pointers are all over youtube. But these guys are a great start. They know their stuff.
They sure do. Pros in Europe ride 120 mile a day for 21 days straight (tour de France) and many other races all season. Pros have custom made bicycle frames made to their body specs and a total professional fit done. They get paid millions so they can’t get injured with an improper bike fitment.
Even as an amateur cyclist myself I suffer from an improper bike fit, but a good bike fit takes about 2 hours and 150 dollars. I need to get one. Good pointers are all over youtube. But these guys are a great start. They know their stuff.
The walnuts!!!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I need to share this with my husband, great tips and you two are so funny!!!
Thank you. My son 10 years, he use to cycle 4-8 km per day, feels pain below butts, not exactly butts but below it and up to the biceps. If any suggestion then plz let me know.
Does this hold true for stationary recumbent bikes?
You also need to check your feet or front part of the foot can comfortably touch the floor to allow control of the bike when stopping.
Finally!!!!
What causes toe drop and heel lift. I have a herniated disc. But have no pain
My testis pains after when I return home from cycling What should I do please tell se some cure or give some tips plzzz🙏
THANK YOU! My sweet husband a few years ago purchased me a bike, and it was an uncomfortable monster. I rode mountain bikes for years and loved them. But this road bike was way too big for me to ride comfortable and I had to jump up to get on. And well I literly have to lean over to get off this monster, not to mention the falls I have taken. He used a store clerk who must have been 6 foot to size the bike. I am 5'4". The last fall I took I gave up biking. I am now know as a hiker!
Bike fit is very individualized....I understand you’re speaking to the average person out there just riding around, but more aggressive setups really can be comfortable, even for hours at a time. It’s a combination of bike setup and the riding position. A strong core is paramount to minimize back issues when riding. I think Bob’s saddle position is fine in terms of fore and aft. On that frame, you wouldn’t want to sit straight up. That’s how a cruiser is set up, but not his hybrid. That slight flex forward is fine, but he needs to keep his weight on his sit bones and perhaps just a few degrees of nose down. Level saddle is a good starting place, but generally needs a tweak.
anyone finding good results with biking as part of sciatic recovery? or cutting out biking?
Bring back Ryan! 👍😊
hahaha so cute
I'm a subscriber and love you guys but there is some really bad info here. As an avid cyclist and bike fitter I have to call you out on this. First lets talk about saddle height & knee extension angle at bottom of pedal stroke. 10 to 14 degrees is WAY wrong and will almost guarantee lower back issues, quite possibly hip flexor issues and possible knee issues . With shoes on (and assuming if you are using cleats that they are positioned correctly) clipped in, wearing the bibs / shorts you typically wear and after spinning for a few minutes to normalize, the correct range including the Holmes method recommends that be between 25° and 35° when at bottom dead center. I find most the people I do fits for preferred range between range 28 to 30. Pros often prefer 20-25 especially on a TT bike....but 10 to 14 is a no no. Way too much extension. Next keep in mind that when you drop your saddle height it will change your position fore / aft because of the seat tube angle...Dropping saddle height moves you forward and raising moves you back, so recheck your KOP (knee over pedal) position and if you adjust fore or aft recheck your saddle height because the saddle rails are on an angle...moving the seat back will actually drop the saddle height and moving it forward will increase the saddle height so fine tuning will be in order. Do keep in mind that a few millimeters off can be the difference of being comfortable or pain and injury.
Lastly Brad and I say this with all due respect....what the hell is with your bar position???...that is the most grotesque tri - aero bar position I have ever seen! I really don't know were to start to address that!I would recommend you correct the info and maybe have an actual bike fitter come on and present bike fit info to keep your subscribers informed and pain free. By the way it looks like your crank length is too long..this can close hip angle at the top of the pedal cycle causing hip issues which makes people think they need to raise their saddle.Take care and ride safe!
Too low seat puts stress on the hamstrings, too.
My ankle flicks when pedalling
That maybe ok for a beginner to set up his/her own bike but there is nothing expert about setting up a bike that way except raising the handlebars for back problems.
I put the seat up too high, now I've got Achilles pain 🤦♂️
😂 😂 😂 🚲
Heighth!
Why Marcus?!
A lot of misinformation here. Go with bike fit experts instead.
seat too high = ITband pain
I urge to you both to let one complete his sentence before speaking yours. It creates lot of confusion.
Lol
Gosh.. are you even educated!