My Great Uncle Frank Joyce was “manning the guns” on HMS Stork when Capt. Walker gave the order to “Ram” U 574. He served under Walker on the Stork and the Woodcock. During Franks first leave after the sinking of U574 he gave a first hand account to the newspapers , we still have the articles which are considered one of our family treasures
@@paulhicks6667 So true Paul. We have so many heroes in our family from WW1 and WW2 across all the services . Some came home , many didn’t and those that did were changed forever through severe injury or personality changes . They were a different breed back then and we owe them our lives , they should be forever remembered.
Mostly, thanks to the skilled museum interviewers and the stortelling ability of those interviewed, that "weave" largely dictates itself! I just need more time to produce more, sigh.
@@geordiedog1749 More a matter of being inspired. I'd been meaning to do something like this for some time, had half-heartedly been gathering material ... then Drach produces his great summary and I suddenly felt inadequate ...
@@ArmouredCarriers each his own. Drach rarely uses voices to enhance his videos.. imagine if he had a voice recording of Zinovy Rozhestvensky, created an AI deepfake and used it to illustrate the Dogger Bank incident. “Nyet, Kamchatka, zat is fishing boat, don’t shoot! &@$@**%%#££¥!”
A ship like that should have been put in a museum after decommissioning. Remarkable - doesn’t do it justice. Perhaps the best weapon under Captn Walker the allies had.
26:24 ASDIC on the Russian convoys: The speaker's explanation is incorrect - the sound travel under water is not effected [in volume or speed] very much by salinity. He says an echo [or submarine noise] couldn't be picked up in "fresh water" - I think he's referring to the thermocline where between 30 and 100 meters depth there is often a sudden change in water temperature. The thermocline is the divider between warmer saltier surface water & the cold, still less saline waters. This can frustrate ASDIC [sonar], because a sound originating on one side of the thermocline tends to be bent, or refracted. Thus a sub below the thermocline is masked because it's in colder, less saline deep waters. That's my guess - the effect of thermoclines was not well understood in the 1940s.
Right. That explains why searching for U boats in the St.Lawrence was so difficult. The mix of fresh and salt,and possibly difference in temperature as well.
Was he passed over for promotion by much lesser officers? Politics of the day , after the war, probably had several officers that had laid themselves paths of promotion.
@@paulwoodman5131 He missed the boat so to speak - he was 43 years old at the start of WWII & thus too old for a promotion to captain of a fighting ship which is extremely physical work. Walker’s uninspiring assignments between the wars produced some less-than-glowing reports by his seniors & he was in an underappreciated branch of the service. Someone realised he had the skills to break the submarine blockade & hence he got his chance.
@@nightjarflying Intelligent men with integrity tend not to do too well in peacetime but social climbers and morons can thrive. Thankfully someone realised his value and gave him the necessary authority to make a difference!
That must have been quite these scene with jars of pickled U-Boat sailors being passed around for the convoy merchantmen to be assured that the U-Boats are being sunk. The ramming the Stork put on the sub also likely had great propaganda value. Good to hear that the Stork sailed on after the war. 😊
'The Fighting Captain: The Story of Frederic Walker RN CB DSO & The Battle of the Atlantic' is a good read on 'Johnny' Walker. Do a vid on the Terror of Tobermory: my Uncle did 2 courses run by him, & said the moniker was apt.
His grandson PJ walker was my commanding officer on H M submarine otter 79/81 there's a picture of me and his wife cutting the cake at the rededication ceremony . I had to present her with a bouquet of flowers she smiled , being a sprog I didn't know what to do so I kissed her on the lips like a muppet. The captain gave an embarrassing smile , the coxswain give me the evil eye and the junior rates gave a cheer The captain was a natural leader and a gentleman he was well liked by the crew we only found out what pedigree he was from by overhearing officers small talk Submarine captain's are the cream of the cream And he put it to good use. further on in his career as a principal anti submarine warfare officer To catch a Thief you've got to think like a thief
Thames barges, Dutch barges and other shallow draft cargo boats had side keels that could be raised and lowered. Something like that would have made these warships much easier to live with.
Extraordinary stories from trained crew. 2 SS-captives fr a U killed by starboard side bow strike by escorted ship. 2 others.. non-SS survived. Odd stuff.
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My Great Uncle Frank Joyce was “manning the guns” on HMS Stork when Capt. Walker gave the order to “Ram” U 574. He served under Walker on the Stork and the Woodcock.
During Franks first leave after the sinking of U574 he gave a first hand account to the newspapers , we still have the articles which are considered one of our family treasures
@@paulhicks6667 So true Paul. We have so many heroes in our family from WW1 and WW2 across all the services . Some came home , many didn’t and those that did were changed forever through severe injury or personality changes . They were a different breed back then and we owe them our lives , they should be forever remembered.
This channel,,its content and how the stories are woven together and presented is absolutely excellent!
Many thanks.
Mostly, thanks to the skilled museum interviewers and the stortelling ability of those interviewed, that "weave" largely dictates itself!
I just need more time to produce more, sigh.
@drachinifel is half way through a series of videos on Walker’s exploits, so it’s amazing to hear the voices of the men who served with him.
I think this is a collab of sorts. A ‘synchronisation’. They both make shout outs for the others channel.
@@geordiedog1749 More a matter of being inspired. I'd been meaning to do something like this for some time, had half-heartedly been gathering material ... then Drach produces his great summary and I suddenly felt inadequate ...
@@ArmouredCarriers each his own. Drach rarely uses voices to enhance his videos.. imagine if he had a voice recording of Zinovy Rozhestvensky, created an AI deepfake and used it to illustrate the Dogger Bank incident.
“Nyet, Kamchatka, zat is fishing boat, don’t shoot! &@$@**%%#££¥!”
With Drach doing his own special on Johnnie Walker. This is fantastic
I had been tinkering on this one for awhile: Seeing Drach's excellent pieces pushed me to slide it up the priority scale!
06:40 watching that corvette bobbing along in what was a fairly calm sea…
“it would roll on wet grass”
My dad told me 62 degrees roll one nite. The ole man never blinked
A ship like that should have been put in a museum after decommissioning. Remarkable - doesn’t do it justice. Perhaps the best weapon under Captn Walker the allies had.
26:24 ASDIC on the Russian convoys: The speaker's explanation is incorrect - the sound travel under water is not effected [in volume or speed] very much by salinity. He says an echo [or submarine noise] couldn't be picked up in "fresh water" - I think he's referring to the thermocline where between 30 and 100 meters depth there is often a sudden change in water temperature. The thermocline is the divider between warmer saltier surface water & the cold, still less saline waters. This can frustrate ASDIC [sonar], because a sound originating on one side of the thermocline tends to be bent, or refracted. Thus a sub below the thermocline is masked because it's in colder, less saline deep waters. That's my guess - the effect of thermoclines was not well understood in the 1940s.
Thank you for the very clear and interesting explanation of that phenomenon. Neither had I heard of the term thermocline etc not being former navy.
Right. That explains why searching for U boats in the St.Lawrence was so difficult. The mix of fresh and salt,and possibly difference in temperature as well.
Legendary man who worked himself to an early death to help save Western Civilisation.
Was he passed over for promotion by much lesser officers? Politics of the day , after the war, probably had several officers that had laid themselves paths of promotion.
@@paulwoodman5131yeah, this is true. I think the ‘big gun’ commanders got away with a lot. The sub hunters and carrier boys had the last laugh.
@@paulwoodman5131 He missed the boat so to speak - he was 43 years old at the start of WWII & thus too old for a promotion to captain of a fighting ship which is extremely physical work. Walker’s uninspiring assignments between the wars produced some less-than-glowing reports by his seniors & he was in an underappreciated branch of the service. Someone realised he had the skills to break the submarine blockade & hence he got his chance.
@@nightjarflying Intelligent men with integrity tend not to do too well in peacetime but social climbers and morons can thrive. Thankfully someone realised his value and gave him the necessary authority to make a difference!
@@nightjarflyingHe might have been given the convoy duty because lesser men had grabbed the nicer jons.
I'm so spoiled! New episode after episode to enjoy with my morning coffee!
This is one of the best!
That must have been quite these scene with jars of pickled U-Boat sailors being passed around for the convoy merchantmen to be assured that the U-Boats are being sunk. The ramming the Stork put on the sub also likely had great propaganda value. Good to hear that the Stork sailed on after the war. 😊
If Johnny Walkers executive officer was named Jack Daniels they would have been one hell of a team
Sorry - Albert Suntori.
A legend in his own right 👑
'The Fighting Captain: The Story of Frederic Walker RN CB DSO & The Battle of the Atlantic' is a good read on 'Johnny' Walker. Do a vid on the Terror of Tobermory: my Uncle did 2 courses run by him, & said the moniker was apt.
Just bought a copy. Thanks.
there is footage from the Cruel Sea, with Jack Hawkins, at 4:32
A good movie, despite the fictional elements.
His grandson PJ walker was my commanding officer on H M submarine otter 79/81 there's a picture of me and his wife cutting the cake at the rededication ceremony .
I had to present her with a bouquet of flowers she smiled , being a sprog I didn't know what to do so I kissed her on the lips like a muppet. The captain gave an embarrassing smile , the coxswain give me the evil eye and the junior rates gave a cheer
The captain was a natural leader and a gentleman he was well liked by the crew we only found out what pedigree he was from by overhearing officers small talk Submarine captain's are the cream of the cream And he put it to good use. further on in his career as a principal anti submarine warfare officer To catch a Thief you've got to think like a thief
Great story. Thanks for sharing.
thanks, that was really good...
Drachinfel is doing a three-part series on this . . .
Yes, seeing that prompted me to get this out quicker than I was planning. Have chatted with him over identifying some of the footage.
Must have been damned good, to have a top whisky named after him😉
The three Johnnie Walker labels were created in 1909 [just in case you're serious].
Since when has Jonnie Walker been considered a top whisky ?
@@andreww-u1r Since my daughter started working for Diageo!😂
@@andreww-u1r Good enough for me mate. Good enough for my Dad before me.
thoroughly enjoyed this did anyone notice the great British actors JACK Hawkins Stanley Baker there was another actor but don't know his name
A good and informative video well done
Thames barges, Dutch barges and other shallow draft cargo boats had side keels that could be raised and lowered. Something like that would have made these warships much easier to live with.
Extraordinary stories from trained crew. 2 SS-captives fr a U killed by starboard side bow strike by escorted ship. 2 others.. non-SS survived. Odd stuff.
All of these better men than I will ever be, ever hope to be, gone for eternity. Doesn’t seem fair. Doesn’t seem right.
Sword Fish Pilots Were Fearless!❤RIP.💐💐💐
Just a WAG, but perhaps the U-Boat Skipper was hopping that surface conditions, due to the wind, would help him escape....
Is that Jack Hawkins?
Excellent
Fabulous
The hunter became the hunted there happy time was over
✨🏴✨🥰✨👍✨♥️✨🤗✨.
"Death or Glory". #Captain walker..
no wonder a whisky sunk