Manufacturers gotta stop the dumb door to the bathroom from the bedroom! Stop it!! Absolutely no need for it! Put the wall in and reconfigure the bathroom for better toilet space.
Put a desk where the inside dinning area is...because there is a 6 place dinning area in the garage! Put a 22 in deep desk where the small dinning area is inside. Power outlets for a computer tower and dual monitors...
I absolutely love the layout, especially with the extra seating in the living room. I could use a longer garage, but we already struggle to back in our 37ft TH so I couldn’t imagine adding another 9 feet 🥴 Great for folks who do desert camping and don’t have site size limitations 👍
Not sure why most manufacturers put glass doors in their RVs. We have a Brinkley and love that we don't have to worry about glass breaking in the cabinet doors .
Get rid of the door between the bedroom & bathroom and put the potty against the bedroom wall instead for actual elbow room with the vanity across from it.
Lol! I agree about the thermostat and programmable Dad chip. My husband went as far as putting a note on the thermostat that warns of losing 4 will points if touched. 😂
THAT IS A GREAT IDEA!!!! Hinge the table to the side wall, or better yet, replace the whole table with a single pedistal table! No, wait, better idea... Get rid of the dining room all together, that's right, factory installed desk, and use those twist & turn couch tables that goes in and out of the braces on the couch! Yes, we can call this idea the PoppaPhil area!!!!!🤣lol
Or do what cougar is doing with a table/chairs that brackets to the wall & allows the table to turn so it's flat against the camp-side window to make a desk.. all in one!
This is a great rig...too big for me, but I love the sectional sofa (not so much having to move two sections to close the slide). I would get rid of the dining table and replace it with a Laguna table so that I could switch between table and desk mode or remove entirely. I really like the wee spot between the table and entertainment centre...perfect place for a coffee maker. I also like the loft opening to the garage rather than the living room, it just gives that much more privacy.
I rarely see that done. I suspect it is so people aren't as likely to forget it and go down the road with a table smashing around inside. Only a guess though Some brands are doing a new table top that can pivot and spin around
The exterior looks cool. Alliance and Brinkley really have the cool factor figured out. I kinda like the "dark side" color scheme. That water manifold system is super handy and something I wish they'd bring over to smaller RVs. Not a big fan of the pulls not being consolidated in the wet bay.
The older v13 version of this floorplan was my favorite Toy Hauler. This one seems like the same. Do appreciate you breaking down the parts for road mode. I'd like to figure out a bit more space for the toilets. I'd replace the happijack benches with another bed for me. the adult with needs (a big bed)
If ordering the RV i bet we could request two of the top bed instead of bed + benches OR you can just remove the benches and the stops that prevent the standard happijac bed from dropping. That's quite easy
The plumbing in that Valor deserves more attention. Alliance says they are all home runs, so no hard to find plumbing connection that could leak. I don't like the legless dinettes though. I've seen too many in newer RVs (of numerous brands) that are already coming off the wall. Otherwise, I love this model as a destination RV with a huge flex room in the back.
I've not personally seen legless dinettes coming off walls but I also haven't seen THIS MANY being used in the industry so far. That's definitely a point of concern.. TY for bringing this to my attention
This is very similar to my 2022 43v13 , I prefer my kitchen setup and I wouldn't mind having the loft in the garage over living space. I'm ok with the small 3 seater couch we have, less people to want to sit down on the couch. I see they added the second set of legs to the happijack seats like I did to mine for extra support. Washer in the garage is Unvented , washer in the bedroom has the possibility of Vented. We put a mini fridge in the back where the rear washer prep is and vented the washer in the front.
Turn the dinning area into a bar with folding chairs and the sectional can slide under it or snug against it and that would be awesome for for ease. Other thing I would do is add a trash can. I really do love this floorplan. If I would looking at a 5th wheel, then this would be one of my top picks. Thanks, Josh btw.
My vote would be to take 6' out of the garage space (lose the loft and area underneath and maybe the 2nd door back there), and that area would be a great flex space for an office/guest room or for smaller 'toys', more of a crossover instead of true toy hauler. Move the TV down so it can be enjoyed from the patio. Then you're back under the 40' mark and much more manageable. I just want better office space...Also, it would be really great to see manufacturers embrace solar more. Call it an off-grid package. 2500 watts minimum, way more batteries and you can start doing away with the generators all together. So much going on on the roofs but I know folks are getting more than that on say a Brinkley z3100. Think it's avoided due to the complexity of something like say, a Victron setup? The average consumer could probably deal with an all-in-one system that would be simpler but less efficient. If Alliance or Brinkley sat down with Will Prowse, it might open their eyes a little and get them thinking. I agree with you, a convertible space in the dining nook there would be nice, I'd love a breakfast bar type thing there, 4 at that table would be ridiculous anyway. I also agree with other commenters, that bathroom door situation is pretty awful. I'm blind as a bat at night with no contacts in, I'd probably break my face on that post right in the middle between the doors. Sure seems like a waste of bathroom space. This RV has got an additional half bath, just remove the hallway door imo. Thanks for your videos, learning a lot!
You can buy an aftermarket lagun style table base for about $100-$150 that will mount against that wall and achieve the dining/desk options you were talking about. You could just mount the table top that comes with the rv onto the base. Piece of cake. I honestly think that if a person is overly concerned with "road mode" on a towable, they should really consider a motorized coach. That type of enormous towable rig seems like it would be good for people who are into motorsports and either take it to a track parking lot or out to the sand dunes or something like that. Traditional campgrounds wouldn't seem like a good fit for that monster.
Not a bad floorplan at all. If they made it without the garage, like if the living room ended in a three-season door that led to a deck/ramp it would be practically perfect! However, in its current setup, I would turn the garage into an office and remove the dining table in favor of a chest freezer in that space next to the "reefer".
I wish that it would be 3 feet shorter. An 11-foot garage is OK for Harley and other motorbikes, and at 43 feet instead of 46, it would be easier to find campi g spots
You would need a decibel measurer to compare the noise levels of the air conditioning units. Each unit would have to be in the same conditions heat/humidity wise and have temp gauges in each one. That's off the top of my head. I would LOVE to see a vid on that!
Personally I’ve just never liked the angled entertainment center that most toy haulers have. But at least with this one they don’t have that long couch where 75% of it has no view of the tv. Moving the loft to the garage side was almost a no brainer. In my opinion, half baths are for #1 only. There’s no need for Matt’s prime pooping position. The half bath is for when your wife is hogging the main bath and you don’t want to walk to the bathhouse at the RV park just to go pee.😁
Hello ! Turning the table for a desk - that would be awesome! Not just in this model but any model. That’s an amazing rig. Too long for me but amazing just the same. Thank you.
If the table folded flat against the wall, would the sofa slot into the space when you closed it up, so you wouldn't have to dismantle the sofa? #nerdherd
The kitchen is TINY. We would be fighting to cook and make coffee. :( The kitchen is the most important room for us. Everyone gathers in the kitchen here.
@@tlouiseallen9302yes that’s where I would put our coffee station too. Great idea! I don’t require a massive kitchen. I’d rather have more couch and dining seating :) We cook mostly outside anyway.
@@mamabar6811 This one just isn't for us. It's my hubby, son and I. (62 and I'm 60) My son is 36, 6'3 and 260lbs. Hubby and I are little people that had warrior size kids. lol Our daughter and grands are taller than us. This one just isn't the right fit for us. I've seen floor plans that would fit our needs much better. I don't need 2 bedrooms but I do need a bit better kitchen, more bathroom space. We won't be traveling in a unit. We are renovating our home and selling it. Then moving to a new property without a house. I need one for a few years while we renovate and build our home. (small one) My sons bedroom will be in our small cabin up next to the RV .
Honestly I'm not a big TH fan BUT this one! ❤❤❤ I'm a shorty but love that shower for my 6'2" hubby and 6'4" and still growing grandson. Only drawback for me is CPAP solution. Other than that it's dang near perfect!
that little so called waste basket spot... ... for those who have those rare cats that wont roam far and always come back rather soon after an hour or 2 when do go out... ( does happen, have had that kind) would make a great cat door during the day... come in from outside, pop out on kitchen counter right next to the salmon you cooking, grab it, right back outside again for another hour. ... am animal lover myself, have had many dogs and cats both orver the years.... a couple of them would indeed be good for traveling and letting roam free at every spot. most NO... as expected out of cats, but a couple i had, yep, would be fine. ... would make a great cat door for such a cat if you want food stolen, dogs, probably not so much, ..... seriously though, is a great trash solution. wish my house had that... take trash out from outside to begin with, no need to drip wet bags through the house. ... excellent control panel.... i actually like them kinda exposed actually, not saying they should do that, but as a more techy type dude, i would like the control panel in the same spot i would set up my computer and 2nd monitor, radios, or what not... have EVERY control at one console heheh, no dont do that, just saying being surrounded by screens and switches.. more the marrier. is kinda childish. but oh well. but hell if i had my way i would be able to dump the tankds from the computer desk if need be..... star trek crap.... control anything from anywhere lol.... dump tanks hook up truck and drive off without even needing to go outside for any of it lol. drive from inside the trailer computer desk..... i do like independent switches, rather than screens to control things in reallity, but do like to have every single function at the same control panel regardless..... just seems to look cool.... does not mean can not have other area switches for same things, level rv from inside panel OR at each corner individually both. very nice unit...... not saying anything needs changed.... just a bit of humor, and mention how rv in general have contoles spread everywhere when you most likely need to use them all together...... like charge controller in a bedroom while slide control in living room, water heater in bathroom, water pump in kitchen or god knows what. ... put all in one spot, see power controller see results when turn on water heater, ac, etc. notice instantly, eww, ac taking to much power, leave off now, rather than having to go down the the front storage bay to check or some crap.... is a bit more complicated wiring yes.... but, mainly just extentions and paths and 2 way switches, migh want to turn on water heater and pump both while taking a dump.... should not have to go back to main panel before get in shower, but at same time,, if out in living area near main control panel just turn off from there, same as the best smart phone and screen systems, but NOT computer based entirely is the point.... stuff that can still work like your hall light with a switch at both ends if rv computer crashes... is ok if computer can control too with phones etc.... but, the manual switches must always override said system, not be locked out due to system errors faults or proper programmed measures even...... you might HAVE to squeeze out that last bit of whatever the system says no too, that you can do in manual systems.... great example of system i HATE on my car..... it is impossible to engage the emergency/parking break while moving... must stop first....... well that means you are F*CKED if breaks fail..... with handle brake or even pedal version if skilled enough on older cars, will allow you to either stop without main breakes, or pull various maneuvers..... parking break my car has wont do jack shit even if 5 mph.. no sliding around corners, or "emergency" maneuvers in this car.
If you can’t leave your house without your toys then this toy hauler although with a smaller bathroom, kitchen and living area comes as close to the comfort and livability of a traditional 5th wheel floorplan as any that I have seen👍
As a family of 11, this is what I've been looking for. Usually there's minimal seating, counterspace, or overall living space in favor of a more spacious garage, bedroom, and bathroom. If money weren't a factor (and I was confident that I could handle moving the sectional pieces), this would be mine tomorrow lol. I try to look at the worst case scenario when shopping for an RV. If it's raining for a week straight and we're all stuck inside, there's a pretty good chance that all of us would emerge mostly unscathed once it stopped raining if we had this toyhauler. 😂
That kitchen has no silverware drawer. And how do you open the deep drawer and still stand in the kitchen? It’s just too tight and not functional. Definitely not for us.
Wow based in tank capacity this would be great for dry camping. And I really like how they did the living area and kitchen. If you want a big roomy toy hauler this would be the one.
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Manufacturers gotta stop the dumb door to the bathroom from the bedroom! Stop it!! Absolutely no need for it! Put the wall in and reconfigure the bathroom for better toilet space.
I like the L-shaped sofa and the table and chairs.
TY Judith
Wow...wasn't in the market for a TH but I could change my mind for this unit!! My cats would love this!!!
Put a desk where the inside dinning area is...because there is a 6 place dinning area in the garage! Put a 22 in deep desk where the small dinning area is inside. Power outlets for a computer tower and dual monitors...
A few folks mentioned the same. i could see it. Great positioning for it
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I love this RV. Love the sofa. I wish I had one. Love everything in this RV. Another great video Josh. You are great 😊
Wow ty :)
I absolutely love the layout, especially with the extra seating in the living room. I could use a longer garage, but we already struggle to back in our 37ft TH so I couldn’t imagine adding another 9 feet 🥴 Great for folks who do desert camping and don’t have site size limitations 👍
Yeah that's the thing with these.. you have to REALLY know where you're going and how to handle them
Man you were extra funny this go around 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣!!! Thank you Josh for the fine tooth comb review!! Nice rig!
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You nailed it with the table options- hinge to fold and to rotate!!
👍🏻 agreed!
Not sure why most manufacturers put glass doors in their RVs. We have a Brinkley and love that we don't have to worry about glass breaking in the cabinet doors .
Alliance uses plexiglass. It won't shatter like real glass.
Brianm beat me to it. It's not _glass_ glass
I wish they would make something like this but with a small garage like a 6ft or 8ft. Some of us only haul electric bikes
I actually like those kind of "CrossOver" concepts
We'd love that as well!
We love your content!! You crack us up with your funny jokes. Lol
😊 Thank you for watching!
Get rid of the door between the bedroom & bathroom and put the potty against the bedroom wall instead for actual elbow room with the vanity across from it.
I'd love that
Lol! I agree about the thermostat and programmable Dad chip. My husband went as far as putting a note on the thermostat that warns of losing 4 will points if touched. 😂
wow nice D&D reference lol
THAT IS A GREAT IDEA!!!! Hinge the table to the side wall, or better yet, replace the whole table with a single pedistal table!
No, wait, better idea...
Get rid of the dining room all together, that's right, factory installed desk, and use those twist & turn couch tables that goes in and out of the braces on the couch!
Yes, we can call this idea the PoppaPhil area!!!!!🤣lol
Or do what cougar is doing with a table/chairs that brackets to the wall & allows the table to turn so it's flat against the camp-side window to make a desk.. all in one!
wow huge over all liking Alliance
Don’t underestimate the OG Ford Ranger
Big is good! Right away you've got me laughing with your into! 🤣
:)
TY for watching :)
This is a great rig...too big for me, but I love the sectional sofa (not so much having to move two sections to close the slide). I would get rid of the dining table and replace it with a Laguna table so that I could switch between table and desk mode or remove entirely. I really like the wee spot between the table and entertainment centre...perfect place for a coffee maker. I also like the loft opening to the garage rather than the living room, it just gives that much more privacy.
I'm actually seeing some factories make dining tables that easily rotate to become functional desks on the fly. Loving that concept
Why not make the Table loose with chairs so it can turned in any direction.
I rarely see that done. I suspect it is so people aren't as likely to forget it and go down the road with a table smashing around inside. Only a guess though
Some brands are doing a new table top that can pivot and spin around
The exterior looks cool. Alliance and Brinkley really have the cool factor figured out. I kinda like the "dark side" color scheme. That water manifold system is super handy and something I wish they'd bring over to smaller RVs. Not a big fan of the pulls not being consolidated in the wet bay.
The look of these is amazing
The older v13 version of this floorplan was my favorite Toy Hauler. This one seems like the same. Do appreciate you breaking down the parts for road mode. I'd like to figure out a bit more space for the toilets. I'd replace the happijack benches with another bed for me. the adult with needs (a big bed)
If ordering the RV i bet we could request two of the top bed instead of bed + benches
OR you can just remove the benches and the stops that prevent the standard happijac bed from dropping. That's quite easy
@@JoshtheRVNerd oh wow you can order it. that's so cool, thanks
The plumbing in that Valor deserves more attention. Alliance says they are all home runs, so no hard to find plumbing connection that could leak. I don't like the legless dinettes though. I've seen too many in newer RVs (of numerous brands) that are already coming off the wall. Otherwise, I love this model as a destination RV with a huge flex room in the back.
I've not personally seen legless dinettes coming off walls but I also haven't seen THIS MANY being used in the industry so far. That's definitely a point of concern.. TY for bringing this to my attention
This is very similar to my 2022 43v13 , I prefer my kitchen setup and I wouldn't mind having the loft in the garage over living space. I'm ok with the small 3 seater couch we have, less people to want to sit down on the couch. I see they added the second set of legs to the happijack seats like I did to mine for extra support. Washer in the garage is Unvented , washer in the bedroom has the possibility of Vented. We put a mini fridge in the back where the rear washer prep is and vented the washer in the front.
Extra fridge in the back makes sense to me. We have a mini fridge in our home that’s super handy
Turn the dinning area into a bar with folding chairs and the sectional can slide under it or snug against it and that would be awesome for for ease. Other thing I would do is add a trash can. I really do love this floorplan. If I would looking at a 5th wheel, then this would be one of my top picks. Thanks, Josh btw.
Love that bar idea. I just love them
good video Josh
Glad you enjoyed it
YES on the pivoting table!!!!!! Also I'm in my 50's and as much as I LOVE the sectional couch, it is NOT GEN-X friendly! 🤣🤣🤣
Right on!
#NerdHerd 🎉 😊 🎉
TY as always
My vote would be to take 6' out of the garage space (lose the loft and area underneath and maybe the 2nd door back there), and that area would be a great flex space for an office/guest room or for smaller 'toys', more of a crossover instead of true toy hauler. Move the TV down so it can be enjoyed from the patio. Then you're back under the 40' mark and much more manageable. I just want better office space...Also, it would be really great to see manufacturers embrace solar more. Call it an off-grid package. 2500 watts minimum, way more batteries and you can start doing away with the generators all together. So much going on on the roofs but I know folks are getting more than that on say a Brinkley z3100. Think it's avoided due to the complexity of something like say, a Victron setup? The average consumer could probably deal with an all-in-one system that would be simpler but less efficient. If Alliance or Brinkley sat down with Will Prowse, it might open their eyes a little and get them thinking. I agree with you, a convertible space in the dining nook there would be nice, I'd love a breakfast bar type thing there, 4 at that table would be ridiculous anyway. I also agree with other commenters, that bathroom door situation is pretty awful. I'm blind as a bat at night with no contacts in, I'd probably break my face on that post right in the middle between the doors. Sure seems like a waste of bathroom space. This RV has got an additional half bath, just remove the hallway door imo. Thanks for your videos, learning a lot!
My pleasure! TY for watching
You can buy an aftermarket lagun style table base for about $100-$150 that will mount against that wall and achieve the dining/desk options you were talking about. You could just mount the table top that comes with the rv onto the base. Piece of cake.
I honestly think that if a person is overly concerned with "road mode" on a towable, they should really consider a motorized coach. That type of enormous towable rig seems like it would be good for people who are into motorsports and either take it to a track parking lot or out to the sand dunes or something like that. Traditional campgrounds wouldn't seem like a good fit for that monster.
Love that insight. Ty
Not a bad floorplan at all. If they made it without the garage, like if the living room ended in a three-season door that led to a deck/ramp it would be practically perfect!
However, in its current setup, I would turn the garage into an office and remove the dining table in favor of a chest freezer in that space next to the "reefer".
You're not the first to suggest chopping the garage off actually! I think laredo tried that on some toy hauler models years ago
Great special cameo by spider man!
haha
Good grief! How big can they make a 5th wheel??
That's about as big as it can get
Wait till they figure out how to make a 2 story bunk house that's this long 😂. It will be collapseable
@@johnstark4723 ..kinda like this? th-cam.com/video/OkItxl6IRBM/w-d-xo.html
I wish that it would be 3 feet shorter. An 11-foot garage is OK for Harley and other motorbikes, and at 43 feet instead of 46, it would be easier to find campi g spots
This thing is awesome! The Alliance Valor also uses Azdel for the side walls, doesn't it? Great video!
Yes. Dual azdel (inside and out layers)
You would need a decibel measurer to compare the noise levels of the air conditioning units. Each unit would have to be in the same conditions heat/humidity wise and have temp gauges in each one. That's off the top of my head. I would LOVE to see a vid on that!
I would too. It's just a matter of the time I _don't_ have to set something like that up
Personally I’ve just never liked the angled entertainment center that most toy haulers have. But at least with this one they don’t have that long couch where 75% of it has no view of the tv. Moving the loft to the garage side was almost a no brainer. In my opinion, half baths are for #1 only. There’s no need for Matt’s prime pooping position. The half bath is for when your wife is hogging the main bath and you don’t want to walk to the bathhouse at the RV park just to go pee.😁
Just pee off the edge of the deck
Maintain eye contact with the neighbors to establish dominance lol
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What is the smaller diameter pipe under the front end by the baggage door? Generator exhaust?
yes
So the garage is 3 season, does that mean the rest of the rig is true 4 season? Double paned windows, etc.?
I cannot stress enough: No RV is "truly 4 season"
U didn't mention the water heater ..... is it tankless or no?
Gas/Elec
@@JoshtheRVNerd how big is the tank?
Ok, so hear me out. 14' garage, right? That's great and all....buuttt....
Let's cut off that garage and keep the rest. It'd really be something for a
I totally get you. I wouldn't be opposed to it myself. nice living with just a rear patio perhaps?
Totally unrelated, hope you get to look at those boxy new ibex trailers! RVS1/2/3
Very possible it’ll happen sometime this season
Hello ! Turning the table for a desk - that would be awesome! Not just in this model but any model. That’s an amazing rig. Too long for me but amazing just the same. Thank you.
TY for watching and sharing :)
If the table folded flat against the wall, would the sofa slot into the space when you closed it up, so you wouldn't have to dismantle the sofa?
#nerdherd
Perhaps.. unsure
Hard to say since it doesn’t
Come on Josh, when are you going to do another bloopers video!!??
JUST had one come out recently.. th-cam.com/video/jMukl4F3OzE/w-d-xo.html
The kitchen is TINY. We would be fighting to cook and make coffee. :( The kitchen is the most important room for us. Everyone gathers in the kitchen here.
@@tlouiseallen9302yes that’s where I would put our coffee station too. Great idea! I don’t require a massive kitchen. I’d rather have more couch and dining seating :) We cook mostly outside anyway.
@@tlouiseallen9302 That would be a good place for one.
@@mamabar6811 This one just isn't for us. It's my hubby, son and I. (62 and I'm 60) My son is 36, 6'3 and 260lbs. Hubby and I are little people that had warrior size kids. lol Our daughter and grands are taller than us. This one just isn't the right fit for us. I've seen floor plans that would fit our needs much better. I don't need 2 bedrooms but I do need a bit better kitchen, more bathroom space. We won't be traveling in a unit. We are renovating our home and selling it. Then moving to a new property without a house. I need one for a few years while we renovate and build our home. (small one) My sons bedroom will be in our small cabin up next to the RV .
@@PreppingAngel got it. That definitely makes sense in your situation:) Best of luck in your search!
the kitchen simply doesn't require you walk around. It wraps around you. There's a surprising amount of counter prep space there
Honestly I'm not a big TH fan BUT this one! ❤❤❤ I'm a shorty but love that shower for my 6'2" hubby and 6'4" and still growing grandson. Only drawback for me is CPAP solution. Other than that it's dang near perfect!
TY!
that little so called waste basket spot... ... for those who have those rare cats that wont roam far and always come back rather soon after an hour or 2 when do go out... ( does happen, have had that kind) would make a great cat door during the day... come in from outside, pop out on kitchen counter right next to the salmon you cooking, grab it, right back outside again for another hour. ... am animal lover myself, have had many dogs and cats both orver the years.... a couple of them would indeed be good for traveling and letting roam free at every spot. most NO... as expected out of cats, but a couple i had, yep, would be fine. ... would make a great cat door for such a cat if you want food stolen, dogs, probably not so much, ..... seriously though, is a great trash solution. wish my house had that... take trash out from outside to begin with, no need to drip wet bags through the house. ... excellent control panel.... i actually like them kinda exposed actually, not saying they should do that, but as a more techy type dude, i would like the control panel in the same spot i would set up my computer and 2nd monitor, radios, or what not... have EVERY control at one console heheh, no dont do that, just saying being surrounded by screens and switches.. more the marrier. is kinda childish. but oh well. but hell if i had my way i would be able to dump the tankds from the computer desk if need be..... star trek crap.... control anything from anywhere lol.... dump tanks hook up truck and drive off without even needing to go outside for any of it lol. drive from inside the trailer computer desk..... i do like independent switches, rather than screens to control things in reallity, but do like to have every single function at the same control panel regardless..... just seems to look cool.... does not mean can not have other area switches for same things, level rv from inside panel OR at each corner individually both. very nice unit...... not saying anything needs changed.... just a bit of humor, and mention how rv in general have contoles spread everywhere when you most likely need to use them all together...... like charge controller in a bedroom while slide control in living room, water heater in bathroom, water pump in kitchen or god knows what. ... put all in one spot, see power controller see results when turn on water heater, ac, etc. notice instantly, eww, ac taking to much power, leave off now, rather than having to go down the the front storage bay to check or some crap.... is a bit more complicated wiring yes.... but, mainly just extentions and paths and 2 way switches, migh want to turn on water heater and pump both while taking a dump.... should not have to go back to main panel before get in shower, but at same time,, if out in living area near main control panel just turn off from there, same as the best smart phone and screen systems, but NOT computer based entirely is the point.... stuff that can still work like your hall light with a switch at both ends if rv computer crashes... is ok if computer can control too with phones etc.... but, the manual switches must always override said system, not be locked out due to system errors faults or proper programmed measures even...... you might HAVE to squeeze out that last bit of whatever the system says no too, that you can do in manual systems.... great example of system i HATE on my car..... it is impossible to engage the emergency/parking break while moving... must stop first....... well that means you are F*CKED if breaks fail..... with handle brake or even pedal version if skilled enough on older cars, will allow you to either stop without main breakes, or pull various maneuvers..... parking break my car has wont do jack shit even if 5 mph.. no sliding around corners, or "emergency" maneuvers in this car.
That AC isn't not Loud At All.
It really is not. Thank you for all of your visits by the way.
No machine tie-downs.....?
It has them, go back and listen again. 😉
Wow, incredible with all that space and engineering its NOT side sleeper approved 😔😢
Why always double doors into bathroom? Its a waste of space & not practical.
I'll admit it's not my favorite design but they probably do it because of the wider body
The second I see access to the loft from the garage area is an immediate no for me.
If you can’t leave your house without your toys then this toy hauler although with a smaller bathroom, kitchen and living area comes as close to the comfort and livability of a traditional 5th wheel floorplan as any that I have seen👍
As a family of 11, this is what I've been looking for. Usually there's minimal seating, counterspace, or overall living space in favor of a more spacious garage, bedroom, and bathroom. If money weren't a factor (and I was confident that I could handle moving the sectional pieces), this would be mine tomorrow lol. I try to look at the worst case scenario when shopping for an RV. If it's raining for a week straight and we're all stuck inside, there's a pretty good chance that all of us would emerge mostly unscathed once it stopped raining if we had this toyhauler. 😂
"mostly" lol
That kitchen has no silverware drawer. And how do you open the deep drawer and still stand in the kitchen? It’s just too tight and not functional. Definitely not for us.
12 Volt Reefer. 😂😂😂😂
That’s to big to even look at Josh
lol I get it. She's HUGE
Wow based in tank capacity this would be great for dry camping. And I really like how they did the living area and kitchen. If you want a big roomy toy hauler this would be the one.
We agree!