I suspect that the flash rusting around the tinned area is due to acidity in the flux rather than heat. This would apply whether using a liquid flux or a pre-mixed solder/flux product. think that it is desirable to neutralise areas that have been fluxed or lead loaded with a solution of sodium bicarbonate before thorough rinsing and drying before priming. Best wishes.
Hi Ben, as someone has said, we all love your videos and work, the longer the video, the better for me. But, thank you for this one anyway, really nice work. A few years ago, a professional restorer friend of mine put me on to Fertan rust converter. I don't know if you've tried it, it's not that easy to get hold of, but it seems to be different from all the others in how it looks and smells, and it is superb for both converting and applying to stop further rusting. It doesn't contain any latex binder and converts any rust pits to black, some of these you just can't see with the naked eye, and any good steel is left with a phosphate coating which Fertan say is good for six months, although I tend to get it epoxy covered as soon as possible.
Hi and thanks for the comment, I haven't heard of or tried Fertan rust converter. I would have to do some tests on it. So far the rust converters I've used don't work but maybe this one is different, it's easy to get hold of by the looks of it, in the uk anyway. 👍
@@bensclassicbodywork Hi Ben, where I live (Huddersfield) the only place I found that could supply it needed me to buy a case of it. I still have over half a bottle left, it goes a long way. I will drop you an e-mail, if you want to give it a try I'll post you a sample, see what you think.
@@bobfrankish8883 That's very kind of you Bob, appreciate the offer. However being completely honest I don't think rust converters are for me even if it did work. I prefer to see with my eyes that the rust is gone, a converter you would have to blindly trust it's done it's job. Having had to sort rust under new paintwork the expensive way a number of times in the past you get risk adverse and stick to what you know works.
@@bensclassicbodywork I fully understand your reasoning Ben. There are times though, when the Fertan is not a bad option, or is definitely better than doing nothing. I sort of fancy it for applying to spot welded seams that we all know will be rusty on the inside, but it is just not practical to split them open. The product is very thin and would be sucked into the gap by capillary action, I always figured I would do some experiments but never did. If I ever do I'll let you know the results! Most tests you see done on rust converters prove they are a waste of time and money, but I think people expect too much. They apply them to heavily rusted steel without trying to get as much rust off as possible, then leave them outside for ages and find that they fail! I am convinced that the "conversion" is only a few molecules deep, so if they are applied to rust with any thickness to it, there will be fresh rust underneath the black chemical that is left. One of the main differences with Fertan versus the others is the length of time they recommend leaving it to work, i.e. at least 24 hours, preferably longer, keeping it wet for as long as possible by spraying it with a fine mist of water. I think the others may dry long before they can penetrate.
@@stephenisaacs2296 👍 possibly could do a video on that, will have a think if I have enough to say/ know enough about it to make a video on it. Some basic info: psi at the compressor is 100, I don't know the nozzle pressure which is much more important. Nozzle pressure is measured with a gauge that has a needle on the end to push through the rubber blasting tube. I don't have one but need one, I also don't have a pressure regulator which could be used to reduce metal stretching. The compressor size is 120cfm and the nozzle size is 1/4" There are tables online to show how you select a nozzle size for the cfm compressor you have but a nozzle pressure gauge is the right way to get the most out of your setup. Just replying to this message is suggesting to me perhaps I should do a video 😆 Blasting Pot is an old hodge Clemco with a screw type metering valve, it works but there are newer designs that work better.
I think media blasting is great but only if you can prime it almost immediately. By blasting it but then leaving a raw surface surely you are effectively creating a fresh problem for yourself unnecessarily?
I would definitely advise leaving blasted steel with caution. It is the only pratical way I believe to ensure you have got all the rust out on a complete car. Other than dipping the car but there are problems with that method so wouldn't advise it. It is best to paint soon after blasting so I would advise this but not after the first attempt, 2nd, 3rd or 4th attempt yes.
Thanks for the feedback 👍, I'm worried that longer videos would get boring and people wouldn't watch it. Or perhaps not even click on a longer video. I know sometimes if I haven't got much time I choose a shorter video to watch rather than a longer one. What I try and do is cram as much Information into the length of the video as I can. I could increase the length of the video but the amount of info would be similar. Unless I made videos less often, say one every 2-3months Instead of every 6 weeks or so. I suppose it comes down to the reason people watch them. Is it for quick information or do they watch for leisure? Perhaps the only way to find out is to try and see what happens. Yourkshire car restoration makes long vidoes, they are very popular, I find them boring but that's probably because I do this stuff all the time.
@@bensclassicbodywork Hello again. Ultimately, it's a lot of work to create a video like this! Preparation, filming, doing the work itself, and uploading - that takes a lot of time!!! My comment wasn't intended to be a criticism, but rather a point out that I personally just can't get enough of your (especially Alfa) videos! 😉 They are very informative, exciting and relaxing at the same time! For me it is very interesting to see what craft skills others have and what I can use from them for myself and my hobby. I don't know if I've already told you what I do for a living, I'm a male psychiatric nurse, and whenever I see a new one of your videos, I immediately feel better!🙃 So please keep doing what you're doing! --- No matter whether short or long! ( Most is from the googletranslater, hope you understand, what I will say!? )
Thanks for this, I was flattered by your comment. It's a real compliment for someone to ask for longer vidoes. I'm glad it provides some sort of escape from your no doubt stressful and difficult job, respect to you for doing such a job. 👍
@@bensclassicbodyworkdude I’d easily watch a 20-30 minute video if that’s what you put out. You make great, enjoyable content and I look forward to each release.
I suspect that the flash rusting around the tinned area is due to acidity in the flux rather than heat. This would apply whether using a liquid flux or a pre-mixed solder/flux product. think that it is desirable to neutralise areas that have been fluxed or lead loaded with a solution of sodium bicarbonate before thorough rinsing and drying before priming. Best wishes.
Sounds good, I haven't used sodium bicarbonate before. It wont cause any other problems I assume?
AAAAHHHHHH, the newest Spidervideo, that makes me happy late at night!!!😃
as always, love the attention to the vital wee details.
😊👍
Your doing a stunning job on the car, the bare metal panels looking great. You'll be happier with it painted I'm sure.
Thank you 😊😊 Yes I can relax then. Cars look nice all bare but the worry of rust appearing is constant until you get some paint on.
Hi Ben, as someone has said, we all love your videos and work, the longer the video, the better for me. But, thank you for this one anyway, really nice work. A few years ago, a professional restorer friend of mine put me on to Fertan rust converter. I don't know if you've tried it, it's not that easy to get hold of, but it seems to be different from all the others in how it looks and smells, and it is superb for both converting and applying to stop further rusting. It doesn't contain any latex binder and converts any rust pits to black, some of these you just can't see with the naked eye, and any good steel is left with a phosphate coating which Fertan say is good for six months, although I tend to get it epoxy covered as soon as possible.
Hi and thanks for the comment, I haven't heard of or tried Fertan rust converter. I would have to do some tests on it. So far the rust converters I've used don't work but maybe this one is different, it's easy to get hold of by the looks of it, in the uk anyway. 👍
@@bensclassicbodywork Hi Ben, where I live (Huddersfield) the only place I found that could supply it needed me to buy a case of it. I still have over half a bottle left, it goes a long way. I will drop you an e-mail, if you want to give it a try I'll post you a sample, see what you think.
@@bobfrankish8883 That's very kind of you Bob, appreciate the offer. However being completely honest I don't think rust converters are for me even if it did work. I prefer to see with my eyes that the rust is gone, a converter you would have to blindly trust it's done it's job. Having had to sort rust under new paintwork the expensive way a number of times in the past you get risk adverse and stick to what you know works.
@@bensclassicbodywork I fully understand your reasoning Ben. There are times though, when the Fertan is not a bad option, or is definitely better than doing nothing. I sort of fancy it for applying to spot welded seams that we all know will be rusty on the inside, but it is just not practical to split them open. The product is very thin and would be sucked into the gap by capillary action, I always figured I would do some experiments but never did. If I ever do I'll let you know the results! Most tests you see done on rust converters prove they are a waste of time and money, but I think people expect too much. They apply them to heavily rusted steel without trying to get as much rust off as possible, then leave them outside for ages and find that they fail! I am convinced that the "conversion" is only a few molecules deep, so if they are applied to rust with any thickness to it, there will be fresh rust underneath the black chemical that is left. One of the main differences with Fertan versus the others is the length of time they recommend leaving it to work, i.e. at least 24 hours, preferably longer, keeping it wet for as long as possible by spraying it with a fine mist of water. I think the others may dry long before they can penetrate.
Thanks for a fantastic video. Could/would you do a video on how you're sandblaster setup works. Compressor size (PSI) and so on?
@@stephenisaacs2296 👍 possibly could do a video on that, will have a think if I have enough to say/ know enough about it to make a video on it.
Some basic info: psi at the compressor is 100, I don't know the nozzle pressure which is much more important. Nozzle pressure is measured with a gauge that has a needle on the end to push through the rubber blasting tube.
I don't have one but need one, I also don't have a pressure regulator which could be used to reduce metal stretching.
The compressor size is 120cfm and the nozzle size is 1/4"
There are tables online to show how you select a nozzle size for the cfm compressor you have but a nozzle pressure gauge is the right way to get the most out of your setup.
Just replying to this message is suggesting to me perhaps I should do a video 😆
Blasting Pot is an old hodge Clemco with a screw type metering valve, it works but there are newer designs that work better.
I think media blasting is great but only if you can prime it almost immediately. By blasting it but then leaving a raw surface surely you are effectively creating a fresh problem for yourself unnecessarily?
I would definitely advise leaving blasted steel with caution. It is the only pratical way I believe to ensure you have got all the rust out on a complete car. Other than dipping the car but there are problems with that method so wouldn't advise it.
It is best to paint soon after blasting so I would advise this but not after the first attempt, 2nd, 3rd or 4th attempt yes.
What did you use to tin the metal before lead?
It's tinning compound, people like frost sell it. Just brush on and heat until a brownish colour but you must wash the acid off after tinning.
Thank You.
Your restoration work is as great as vegan burgers are cr*p, which is to say you’re doing a fabulous job!
😂😂 Thanks
Intersting, but way too short!😭
Thanks for the feedback 👍, I'm worried that longer videos would get boring and people wouldn't watch it. Or perhaps not even click on a longer video. I know sometimes if I haven't got much time I choose a shorter video to watch rather than a longer one. What I try and do is cram as much Information into the length of the video as I can. I could increase the length of the video but the amount of info would be similar. Unless I made videos less often, say one every 2-3months Instead of every 6 weeks or so.
I suppose it comes down to the reason people watch them. Is it for quick information or do they watch for leisure?
Perhaps the only way to find out is to try and see what happens.
Yourkshire car restoration makes long vidoes, they are very popular, I find them boring but that's probably because I do this stuff all the time.
@@bensclassicbodywork
Hello again.
Ultimately, it's a lot of work to create a video like this!
Preparation, filming, doing the work itself, and uploading - that takes a lot of time!!!
My comment wasn't intended to be a criticism, but rather a point out that I personally just can't get enough of your (especially Alfa) videos! 😉
They are very informative, exciting and relaxing at the same time!
For me it is very interesting to see what craft skills others have and what I can use from them for myself and my hobby.
I don't know if I've already told you what I do for a living, I'm a male psychiatric nurse, and whenever I see a new one of your videos,
I immediately feel better!🙃
So please keep doing what you're doing!
--- No matter whether short or long!
( Most is from the googletranslater, hope you understand, what I will say!? )
Thanks for this, I was flattered by your comment. It's a real compliment for someone to ask for longer vidoes.
I'm glad it provides some sort of escape from your no doubt stressful and difficult job, respect to you for doing such a job. 👍
@@bensclassicbodyworkdude I’d easily watch a 20-30 minute video if that’s what you put out. You make great, enjoyable content and I look forward to each release.
@@6wheels646 Wow, thanks so much 😊😊
I’ve heard of beeswax to lube the paddle. Is that vegan?
😆 good question.
Love it mate!! You clever little cherub! 😉
😉😊 thank you, glad you explained what a cherub was so I could respond on here! Ha!