I bought the new Lyman/Perdersoli GPR signature Series in .50. Closest thing we can get to a real Hawken, what with the heavy barrel, stock, sights barrel. Very heavy but really close to an original, EXCEPT I bought the flint lock model. A half stock Hawken in flintlock was an extremely rare gun; I'm not sure it actually ever existed. Wish I had bought the percussion model and looked elsewhere for a flint longrifle.
I appreciate your style. Don't change a thing. I've had several muzzleloading rifles, percussion and flintlock and although I made the decision to go cartridge arms only, I still have a soft spot for the fur trade era and the men of it. Cheers.
Excellent lesson on how things really went down in them thar hills!!! Great to see you getting into the story behind each rifle. Keep the videos coming!
Thanks for the knowledge. I too have a plains rifle in .54 cal as well as an inline cva. The cva is a fantastic rifle mainly because I can get a much further and more accurate shot on my intended game than I can with my lyman plains rifle, but that plains rifle is soooooo much more fun to shoot and I always get a crowd when I take it to the range.
Oregon is pronounced: Ory-gun. And, for your own benefit, load powder from a measure, not directly from a flask. A spark may still be lurking down there and your flask would turn into a grenade. I've done it when I was a kid and miraculously I wasn't injured.
This is a great video. I have been interested in black Powder guns for a while and am a Civil War Reenactor. I have some original and reproduction black powder rifles and muskets. I am right now waiting for the brown truck to deliver my Lyman Great Plains Rifle in the next few days.
@@FullMetalAmerican I have three. A 1863 Springfield Rifle Musket , a 1858 Remington New Model Army and a 1864 Burnside Carbine. I wouldn't shoot the 1858 as it is the worse for wear, but it looks ok sort of. As to the Burnside I have some new made cartridges and bullets for it . One of these days I will go to the range and try it out. The 1863 is for display only.
@@rudynorvelle2870 Always a good idea to have a gunsmith check the barrel and breech. If it is good make a lockdown board so you can remote fire. I made one out of an old pallet once.
I have some material saved, that I have not published yet, it's been hard with the Covid stuff and my computer got smoked by lightning. More are coming through.
I had a Lyman .54 Great Plains rifle which I stupidly traded for a TC .50 inline. The TC is a great rifle and I've taken a lot of game with it but everytime I open my rifle safe I grit my teeth because the Lyman isn't there. Fitted it with a Lyman aperture sight and from a bench it would hold a 1.5" - 2" group at 100m. Someday I hope to get my hands on another and if so I'm keeping it till the day I die.
@@FullMetalAmerican Hi. Thanks for the link. Unfortunately I'm on the wrong side of the panet to take advantage of it. Guess I will just have to wait until something comes up locally or until I can get one imported again. Regards
Great vid man! Can't believe I didn't come across this vid yet. Seems like I've seen every other BP/ML video out there. I have custom made trade flintlock in .54 as well as a Lyman GPR percussion in .54 and a plains pistol in .54. I knew most of the facts about Hawkens, but you did a good job putting it all in context. Are you located in Oregon? I'm in Grants Pass and I regularly make the trek (or as I refer to it "the pilgrimage") to the Gunworks in Springfield. I feel extremely lucky to have resource like that around when it's probably only one of a handful of similar shops in the country. Do you shoot with any groups? I just started shooting with the Walker Mountain Longrifles here in town.
I'm thinking the cap lock didn't really appear until 1836. Correct me if I'm wrong. So, the fur trade ended around 1840. That means most of the cap lock half stock rifles were probably carried by the migrants heading to the Oregon- California country.
Beautiful firearm! I hunt with traditional muzzleloader rifles, pistols and longbows. They put deer down quick and dead!
I bought the new Lyman/Perdersoli GPR signature Series in .50. Closest thing we can get to a real Hawken, what with the heavy barrel, stock, sights barrel. Very heavy but really close to an original, EXCEPT I bought the flint lock model. A half stock Hawken in flintlock was an extremely rare gun; I'm not sure it actually ever existed. Wish I had bought the percussion model and looked elsewhere for a flint longrifle.
Flintlock half stocks did exist, but as you said were rare. The British actually made many trade rifles of that sort with rounded barrels.
I appreciate your style. Don't change a thing. I've had several muzzleloading rifles, percussion and flintlock and although I made the decision to go cartridge arms only, I still have a soft spot for the fur trade era and the men of it. Cheers.
I love your reaction to shooting it for the first time. Awesome.
I’m 62 just started my black powder endeavor, great info ...sure looked cold on the range . I’ve got a Thompson Hawken looks like fun
Excellent lesson on how things really went down in them thar hills!!! Great to see you getting into the story behind each rifle. Keep the videos coming!
Really a lovely rifle. Beautiful maple stock, fine Cat! Much enjoyed !
Thanks for the knowledge. I too have a plains rifle in .54 cal as well as an inline cva. The cva is a fantastic rifle mainly because I can get a much further and more accurate shot on my intended game than I can with my lyman plains rifle, but that plains rifle is soooooo much more fun to shoot and I always get a crowd when I take it to the range.
Excellent video my friend. Very informative and well produced!
Oregon is pronounced: Ory-gun.
And, for your own benefit, load powder from a measure, not directly from a flask. A spark may still be lurking down there and your flask would turn into a grenade. I've done it when I was a kid and miraculously I wasn't injured.
Ory-gun and ory-gone are regional pronunciations, although I use the first one
There's a video of a guy putting a fuse into his powder horn with 3 Oz of powder. Explosion was intense.
The color looks great!
Cool video! I will diffenetly check that book out! Thanks man!!
This is a great video. I have been interested in black Powder guns for a while and am a Civil War Reenactor. I have some original and reproduction black powder rifles and muskets. I am right now waiting for the brown truck to deliver my Lyman Great Plains Rifle in the next few days.
It's fun when finally let lead fly. What kind of originals do you have?
@@FullMetalAmerican I have three. A 1863 Springfield Rifle Musket , a 1858 Remington New Model Army and a 1864 Burnside Carbine. I wouldn't shoot the 1858 as it is the worse for wear, but it looks ok sort of. As to the Burnside I have some new made cartridges and bullets for it . One of these days I will go to the range and try it out. The 1863 is for display only.
@@rudynorvelle2870 Always a good idea to have a gunsmith check the barrel and breech. If it is good make a lockdown board so you can remote fire. I made one out of an old pallet once.
Please make more videos, they are great!
I have some material saved, that I have not published yet, it's been hard with the Covid stuff and my computer got smoked by lightning. More are coming through.
I had a Lyman .54 Great Plains rifle which I stupidly traded for a TC .50 inline. The TC is a great rifle and I've taken a lot of game with it but everytime I open my rifle safe I grit my teeth because the Lyman isn't there. Fitted it with a Lyman aperture sight and from a bench it would hold a 1.5" - 2" group at 100m. Someday I hope to get my hands on another and if so I'm keeping it till the day I die.
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@@FullMetalAmerican Hi. Thanks for the link. Unfortunately I'm on the wrong side of the panet to take advantage of it. Guess I will just have to wait until something comes up locally or until I can get one imported again. Regards
I subbed and keep up the good work love my smoke poles
Great video, thanks for sharing.
Great vid man! Can't believe I didn't come across this vid yet. Seems like I've seen every other BP/ML video out there. I have custom made trade flintlock in .54 as well as a Lyman GPR percussion in .54 and a plains pistol in .54. I knew most of the facts about Hawkens, but you did a good job putting it all in context. Are you located in Oregon? I'm in Grants Pass and I regularly make the trek (or as I refer to it "the pilgrimage") to the Gunworks in Springfield. I feel extremely lucky to have resource like that around when it's probably only one of a handful of similar shops in the country. Do you shoot with any groups? I just started shooting with the Walker Mountain Longrifles here in town.
I am in Wisconsin. If you know of any good shops around your area I am always interested.
What did the original Hawkens weigh, typically? I understand they were quite heavy. Thanks
nice piece that one!...woods
I'm thinking the cap lock didn't really appear until 1836. Correct me if I'm wrong. So, the fur trade ended around 1840. That means most of the cap lock half stock rifles were probably carried by the migrants heading to the Oregon- California country.
What and how much powder are you using? The load seems light
I actually used 2 different loads, 90 grains 2f and 50 grains 3f.
I LOVE that rifle. Someday . . .
I have a hawken from traditions older model that's a 54 cal
54 pack a good punch.
A beautiful rifle and a beautiful cat
What music did you use in the video?
Sweet. Love the kitty.
To know the caliber of that is it a 50 or a 54 caliber
50
Also love the kitty.