I got quoted £2800 to install UPVC French doors, so tried fitting them myself
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- A few months ago, I got a quote from a local double glazing company to replace these old sliding patio doors and a window to UPVC French doors for a total of £5400.... I'm not sure if this price is average or reasonable to you, but it was a lot more than I was expecting.
So I ended up calling Roundbrand Ltd, the company my Dad always uses back in Doncaster for initially just one quote (the smaller French doors) and it was a third of the price, with delivery 70+, miles away, so I decided to DIY it myself.
The big ones we installed in this video were quoted by a local company at £2800, but ended up paying 1404 (includes VAT).
Here's how I got on.
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Would you have fitted it or just paid someone?
Definitely self fit, got quoted £12K for all the windows and 2 doors in a small 3 bed semi, bought the windows myself from the same local manufacturer they use and only paid £3200 plus the fee to get the local authority to sign it off, did it all in a week too.
That's brilliant!!! What a saving! How long ago was this?
Yes, I'd pay you too 😄
Get someone else to measure it first for you though 🤣
At 67...I've discovered it's a whole easier on my back to write a check than do it myself...30-40 years ago...I've have given it a go.
Given most 'professionals' don't seem to be able to fit the damn things, you did a stand-up job. Well done.
Let's hope they stay up! 😜
The sense of satisfaction at doing it yourself is 100 times better than getting someone else to do it and 100 times cheaper too. You continue to amaze me with your diy skills.
24:43 When he drops the ball and nobody plays. My heart breaks. 😭
Whoever fitted them did a good job to be fair- they were solid
Fitted what?
Me and friend opened up a garden-facing kitchen wall to install large French doors from B&Q. Quite a bit of brick dust, but we used those polythene dust sheets and tape to keep it at bay. Installation was really straightforward and looks great. I too was quoted a stupid amount (£2K) for a job that takes less than a day. FEAR of messing up is what prevents you from having a go.
The moment you were telling all the stressful things that happened and your dog comes into frame and throughs the ball at you to play 😂😂😂😂priceless
Notwithstanding the challenges, this was an awesome piece of work. Kudos!
Well done Vikkie. Also took out some Solair sliders and fitted my own second hand acquired frenchies. Rosewood both sides, so sprayed inside white. Fitted well, masonrys and anchors into the brick, plenty of foam and PVC profile... job done and a ton of money saved as the door cost me around £250 plus £50 in fuel.
Just done bathroom window which was a mismeasure gained from local glazing centre found on ebay. I love a bargain. Downside is I've had to refurb the bathroom now. Thing is, some windows we had professionally installed are "loose" as they fitted into the mortar, plus didn't foam it so I also have thermal bridging issue. So you pay for certification and supposed knowledgeable pros, yet we as DIYers can do a better job and take pride in the work!!
I love how your dog was watching you working intensely as if he was learning how it do the job himself! I also love your enthusiasm to tackle these male dominated jobs and the fact your swearing like a builder. I bet when it is your birthday or Christmas and on your wish list is a new dewalt lol
I found this channel last week and have since watched EVERY video you've done at the farm ... Absolutely brilliant !! Re taking the window out and replacing with 'internal' opening doors ... as these doors will be unprotected from the weather, something to think about, will be that it they open inwards, if it's rained at all, then that rain water could then drop/dribble on your new parquet flooring. If they open outwards, that won't happen. You could always hold them open with some hooks, stop them being blown by the wind.... Just saying :)
Well done Vickie. You did a brilliant job.
Use a bit of soapy water on the window to knock the beads in they slide in easy and you don't damage your trim (hubby is a window fitter) they look great xx
I'm really glad you attempted fitting it yourself and covered the process in this video. I am looking forward to the next video covering fitting the other french doors. Over a few years we had various companies fit double glazed windows and doors, when it come to doing our final one which were the patio doors we fitted them ourselves we felt we had fitted them far better and wish we had fitted all of our other windows and doors, and that is what we would certainly do in the future. I think your video shows how possible it is to do it yourself
Hans is demonstrating the dog's definition of a door. Something to be the other side of. 😉We spent most of the summer opening and closing our French doors for the dog.
Haha... Hans is EXACTLY the same... where he can see through a door towards the garden, he's always waiting to be let out, then let in 😅
With the packers, as you wont need them to keep the glazing units above any water ingress line, the packers really are there so that the sight lines of the spacer bars of the glazing units are equidistant on each side in respect of the glazing beads. You probably won't have issues with UV damage but, generally, it's always advisable to keep the glazing primary seals away from sunlight too.
With heel and toe, set the bottom packers to get the sight lines correct (as above) and then place corresponding packers in the top corner as well. Again, it's all about getting the glazing unit to sit square in the frame and be well supported and right for the sight lines. If the door does not shut properly at the bottom (and assuming the door frame is not strengthened with steel), you can pack the top of the frame slightly upwards so that the frame becomes a slight parallelogram. This causes the bottom corner to rise and gives you clearance, always trying to preserve the sight lines as much as possible. If it sticks at the top, remove packers from the top so that the top of the frame drops. You may need to pack the top side out slightly to keep the glass well held. Remember, the glass is the stronger structure (up to a point), the frames are relatively floppy.
When putting in the beads, start at the top and get the centre inserted, gradually working toward each corner. Use you body to keep the glass in position. On the sides, spring top and bottom into place and accept that there is a slight bow in the middle. Locate now the centre, and work toward the edges equally with your glazing mallet. If the beads are stubborn you can use something like uPVC cleaner or Brite to act as a temporary lubricant. Best not to hammer the beads too furiously as they get damaged if forced too much.
All of this said - excellent job and well done.
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Tip 1: whenever moving heavy items some grippy tactile gloves really help, you'll be surprised! This tip came from a man-and-van mover when he lent me some.
Tip 2: whenever trying to get awkward plastic parts together a little bit of washing up liquid can help.
Tip 3: the disposable foam cans are terrible, always. The metal guns (and gun cleaner) are sooo much better.
Great video, thanks. I believe you can get the council building control to sign off the installation so you wouldn't have any issues if you sell.
Vicki your skills are so impressive as is your approach to trying new things and saving yourself a fortune! Well done - I agree you have made the right decision to open the doors into the living room! 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏💕💕You’re a star ⭐️⭐️ It looks really good and I can’t wait to see the other door completed 👍
What a job - you did such a wow job - they look absolutely incredible !
Thanks so much, Claire 🥰
Air bags, might come in handy, I've fitted a lot of upvc doors and windows, your doing 👍.
Hi Vikkie, You have done a great job installing new French doors I have done this in the past, it's not an easy job. Being honest if you can do it your self then do it, you can save a lot of money. I fitted window in my porch about a month ago, my windows are reclaimed but look good for the porch. I did buy new sills and fascia boards and they are made by Liniar, Quanex. I used 125mm concrete and wood screws and expanding foam. Your video footage is fine, as always a great video take care
Hi Viki,
Nice job for a first go, Just a bit of guidance don't use ordinary expanding foam there is a specific windows and doors foam filler which is denser and less in the expansion department so it does not go crazy. (less to tidy up )
Invest in a foam gun too. More control over what you are using and can close it off when finished ready to keep on using again later rather than chucking them rubbish single use cans away.
Great job for a first try though.
Brave, but fantastic work Vikkie. I don't think I'd have the courage to do that job myself! 👏👏👏
Bloody brilliant!, you've got more bottle than me.
🤣 or i've got more stupidty in me haha
Well done Vikkie, excellent. Just one thing, mask up the surface of your frame before foaming up. Some foams leave a yellow residue on the UPVC.😊
Great job Vikkie - I think you are slowly revealing Mr TCD bit by bit in these videos!
Good job. I did a set of conservatory to kitchen doors of a similar size myself. The previous owner had taken them out and turned the heating up! The doors made the house a lot warmer.
Honestly we just love you. All that hard work and effort! Thoroughly look forward to each video you release! ❤
Aw, thanks so much ❤️ ❤️ So glad my computer pulled through in the end 😍 I dare not turn it off yet until I know I've got everything off it that I want to keep.. yesterday morning I was convinced there would be no video!
Well done and a great saving in cash. I used that brand of expanding foam recently around window frames and it was a similar nightmare to dispense without it expanding everywhere it shouldn't. I found out the hard way that if you wipe it off plaster and let it dry you can't paint over it with emulsion (similar to sealant). Had to sand it off the plaster in the end.
Well done Vikki, it all came good in the end.
a tip for the expanding foam is to put the straw into a silicone nozzle, reduces the output and the rigidity makes it easier to control.
And if you have to do a lot, get yourself a foamgun, its much easier to control and the screw-on cans tend to be a bit cheaper, they also keep longer as long as you keep the gun on the can and its nozzle clear (a spray-on foam cleaner is golden as are some of the wipes)
Fantastic job! You're extremely brave, very well done!!
Gr8 job, whenever you toe and heel doors a must tip is put packers underneath the unglazed opening doors to square up in its frame, this will stop the door dropping as you put glass in, its all good packing the appropriate corners but the sheer weight of the glass will make the door drop before you've properly toe and heeled, but get it pre packed and square underneath before glazing then the door has nowhere to drop, once glazed it might be bit stiff to open the door with packers there but once open and packers removed you'll have properly toe and heeled and the tight packing around glass in appropriate corners won't allow the door to drop over time. This is why it was snagging the bottom when you first opened door, by packing and squaring up the unglazed door (window) first it'll save you needing to re size the packing between the glass. The foam was a bit overkill to be fair as those fixings were more than adequate, just some neat white silicone would be fine but leave that until very last job in room due to future dirt and dust affecting the nice white finish. I may have been tempted to go for a sliding patio, one fixed, one opener? Looks brill and money in your pocket!
Just bear in mind if door opening in and its wet the water will drip onto your floor. Great job though 😊
Seriously impressed with this. Wouldn’t touch a project like this with a barge pole. Well done 🎉👏👏
I would be careful using expanding foam, as it can push the frame out of square/plumb. Using some kind of dry insulaton would be just as good, and less messy.
Thats a cute dog.
Nice work. That's a huge job well done.
*Vikkie, you just saved yourself £2800, so that in it's self is a bonus. Plus your dad would be so proud that you & the extra pair of hands of Mr TCD did the job yourselves 🙂 I hope the next one goes in well and doesn't give you too much trouble 🙂All the best with getting your computer all sorted to. 🙂 You both have a great weekend. 🙂nz*
Fabulous job, Vikkie! Very inspiring. 😊
Great job done Vicki, I know what it's like with computers or in my case external hard drives failing. I would be an hour into editing footage then the external hdd would lose connection (where I keep all my clips) once restored after seconds go back and all editing gone, not even the auto save worked.
Ugh... so so stressful!! I've lost HOURS of edits before sadly, but so glad this didn't end up being my worst disaster to date. We'll be buying more hard drives just incase!
Great work the house is looking excellent.
You're more patient than me! I'd have had the recip saw on that within 10 minutes of trying to do it correctly!
Haha.. I was very very tempted 🤣
Bravo Vikkie, you done great.
Well done on getting your video out what a trial you had 🎉🎉🎉🎉
I did this job myself and found the door dropped slightly over time. I read that a blob of silicone on the packers stops them working themselves loose as the door expands and contracts.
Great work though and I totally agree on the Fensa certificate, selling my house at the moment and the buyers didn't care.
Who doesn't love a bit of demolition? I found a metal spray head for the expanding foam very useful if you use it a lot, which you may do on the next set of doors.
Tough job that mostly on your own! Good work! The biggest tip I would give you is get an expanding foam gun and use gun grade foam, those cans with a nozzle are cack. I honestly wouldn't worry about the certificates, I asked about them for the electrics and gas in my house everyone shrugged and it came down to do yo want to buy the house or not. If enough time passes by the time a house is up for sale they don't seem to mean much, you certainly wont find any for the practically full rewire and log burner install that I did 😂
Congrats to you both for a good job
Champion 🏆🏆🏆 carpenter and hubby
Well done 👍
Saved a fortune 👍👍👍
I got my brother in law carpenter to install new doors to outside and it was a lot cheaper paying him and buying the doors and frames and picking them up myself Saved over $1k
Have a good week
Cheers 🥂
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Wow, that's great news 🤩
I struggled with the cans of foam for years. Buy a foam gun, foam and cleaner and you’ll never look back. The cans last longer and you can control the flow of foam much easier.
Great job. I did all mine myself. If you are doing anymore i would recommend getting a decent foam gun applicator, not the all in one can from screwfix. Also get window and door foam is less expanding and has better insulation properties. Cheapest i've found is discount trade supplies (DTS) about £6.50 a can. They are cheap on loads of things too.
Well done Vikkie, they are heavy things to lug about aren't they. I replaced our front door a few years ago and that was heavy enough. Great video.
Lovely job love your videos keep up the good work
Well done, very impressive!
You did it well done amazing ❤
You have so many skills.
A bit of silicon spray or similar on the inside of the trims can sometimes help. Brilliant job.
Very nicely done Vicky.👍
Fantastic job vicky.. 👏
Well done just a few points when knocking in the beads spray some glass cleaner around the edge of the glass it helps the beads go in easier
When toe and heeling the doors do the slave door first that is opened least so its mainly in the closed position and measure what the frame and sash are your aiming for the same measurements along the top of the sash from the frame
Everyone thinks that the only inspection body is FENSA but thats just like saying its only Apple that do smartphones theres also Certass and I'm registered with a competent person scheme called Napit for my window and door installations
Buy a expanding foam gun they are dirt cheap now probably £15 or less and you have so much more control over the foam and less waste
Perhaps when you have finished your beautiful bungalow , you should definitely treat Mr TCD to a new pair of work Boots 🥾 for all his helping out 😂😂love your videos 👍👍
Well spotted! We're planning on a visit to Go Outdoors very soon!! His Christmas present 🤣
Thanks for the video.😃😃😃
Oh bless ya. That looks great now babe. So much better.
Thanks ☺️
That's been a pane brilliantly done 😊😅
Felt the domestic stress there vicky well done 🤣🤣
Excellent job well done
You do an excellent job .
Hard work mates the dreams work and you should be proud of yourself
If you don’t try, you’ll never know. Looks nice 👍 My personal preference for indoor like that would have been bi-fold so that the track was at floor level - no threshold or step. Plus the doors would fold back out of the way leaving a huge open living room/conservatory - great in summer for BBQ parties 😬
COST!
@@brianhume4743 I did say my preference, not what they should have done. I said preference as we all have different preferences & ideas. Everything has a cost, we all have our own budget.
We were told they were £1000 a panel and we'd need 4 which put us off 😅
Hi Great job done. Avoid those DIY foam guns they are a disaster( I once had one go off and sprayed the customers curtains. Using solvent actually dissolved her curtains 😂) The pro guns are better. More control. Also check op of door before you put on top bead. Adding packers to top lock side will lift the door leaf.
If you ever need to redo the heel & toe packers, buy yourself a Purdy decorator tool, they have a narrow knife edge, strike-through handle and are stiff enough to safely use as a lever to get the glass beads out. I second the ‘choking the hammer’ comment, hammers strike much better when swung from the end of the handle. I’d also suggest making some folding wooden wedges to help when fitting the next set with a pair of wedges located directly under each post, that way, the door frame will be held solidly up against the lintel and they are infinitely adjustable. I made a jig for my table saw for thick and thin wedges.
You should leave the protective tape on before spraying foam filler, otherwise you'll have get it on the frame and its hard to get off.
That's the first time I've seen Mr. TCD appear on camera, even if it was just his hands and feet. I was beginning to think he was a phantom. 😉
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Number 1. You are brilliant and hilarious (in a good way). Number 2. Every woman in the UK must want to steal your wonderful, progressive, non egoistic, Mr. TCD. What a beautiful team!🚩👏🏼
I think you'd be better to install the next set of doors to the outside opening outwards. You'll lose a lot of floor space otherwise and, as someone else says below, if it's been raining and you open your doors, the water on the doors will run off onto your floor. Nice job on these doors, it's always easier with a bit of swearing!
Well done awesome job 😊
Good Job VIKKIE ❤️❤️❤️
Nice video ❤ I hope you tube have upped your money as they have definitely upped the no of adverts for things I don't want or need
I'm really sorry to hear that, they're really not paying me much, but at least i'm saving doing this stuff....
I raised this with my youtube friends in Newcastle the other week, i heard they're throwing more adverts in and potentially paying less per view too.
I hate to say it but i pay for premium because i use it so much, i really notice it when i go into ingognito mode for research.
@@TheCarpentersDaughterUK had a feeling that was the case I know if I pay I can get it add free but like many I'm on a low fixed income so that isn't an option, it really smacks of unthinking big business if they aren't giving contributors a fair deal the inevitable will happen and there will be nothing to watch and therefore no reason to switch on you tube
Hi hope all okay with you both live your content miss watching 😊
you done good job
Well done good job. only suggestion. buy yourself, a proper dispenser for your Expanding foam, they are great things. and you don't have the cleaning problems like you do with the polytube. as it seals right on the end tip when you release the trigger So you should be able to go back to it. Maybe. months later and it still should work even if it's got foam inside it .If it does happen to block you can buy foam cleaner as well. Sorry I don't remember the exact names for these products. but I bought mine from Screwfix. And remember, the cans have a different connector on the top than the one you were using. But they're no different price.
Brilliant job...
I’ve used tons of those tech screws to put wooden decking on trailers, but I’ve found depending on the steel, I have much better luck pre-drilling the holes and only using an impact driver for pre-drilled holes, and a drill if the screws are up to the task of drilling the whole steel.
Hi, great job. I'd suggest getting a non stick foam gun to make your life easier. Especially if you have to do more foaming.
Well done 👏🏻 ❤
Well done great job ✅️✅️✅️
I use to use the foam cans with the flexible nozzles, but after getting a proper foam gun, I would never go back to using the cans as they just don’t have the control that the actual foam guns have
You can simply pay your local building control to sign off the windows if you do fit yourself. In my area it’s around 200- 300 plus vat for up to 8 windows. Building control checked the windows before installation. Having the energy rating documentation meant they did not have measure the glass etc. they made some recommendations about the installation (number of fixings and location). After install a visit to check all signed off. When the property was sold the solicitor did indeed ask for a FENSA certificate, but building control sign off was accepted otherwise would have to bought indemnity insurance. Whilst it would not stop you buying a place, you probably would want some money off the purchase for the hassle.
Great job
Thanks so much ❤️
Well done
Cheers!
Got to admit I paid to have mine fitted!
...... But there were 12 of them one back door and a porch (4 and a door with one above it) and I got a Great price and it was done in 3 days!
I do have to admit it was a bit nerve wracking taking the big pane out of my front window in order to get my suite in because it was too tall to go through the door (and too wide tbh)
There is a bit of a knack to tapping the trim back afterwards, but once you do one all is good!
I've always been worried about furniture being too big to get through the door. I remember my Dad years ago having to do that to get our new sofa when we were little.. but I think they were double glazed wooden windows, so not sure how easy that was back then in the late 80s/early 90s
@@TheCarpentersDaughterUK Yeah ..... Bad memories!
My last house had them and my suite did not fit the door there eather!
One hack knife and an hour of cutting old putty out only to chip the glass on its way out! .... That was fun! Still I got it all back temporary and put a new pain in the following day!
That is another skill of yesteryear ..... puttying in a window! ....... You got lucky!
@totherarf I feel lucky to have avoided window putty 😆
Get some wooden wedges made up, when you dry fit the doors/windows you can make them tight so you'll get time to check levels and the fit
And we'll done
That thin plastic strip between the two halves must have been a real cold spot
Yes, very likely!!! This room has always been cold... and apparently the late owners said that too!
Use Soudal Genius insulation foam for the next one, Screwfix or Toolstation. More controllable and lower force when expanding.
Thanks 😊
👋have just found your channel and wanted to say 👍 in everything you have done. Impressive to see your determination and how prepared and unfazed you are when tackling work. Although I have to take exception with the husband, shame on you for allowing and letting a pretty girl do all of these jobs without gloves. 😡 shame on you. A fellow yellow-belly. 🇬🇧
Top Gear top tip...... you can gain another 6mm (either side, or top/bottom) fitting these if you take any electric plane and machine off the outer parts of the profile - if you find yourself stuck again.
Thanks! Hopefully I won't need it for the next time, but I know what I'll be doing if I have to!
The Dog doesn’t look too stressed. Whos got the better life?
Tip, buy a spray foam gun, and gun grade foam. They are cheap enough now, and give better control.
Might be worth putting manifestations on the door and glass panels so you don't forget they are there until you have finished bring large or heavy objects through.