Shackle vs Shackle Testing A Soft Link Against A Metal Shackle To Failure

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ต.ค. 2019
  • Which one is stronger? Soft link gets pitted against a stainless steel 5/16" hard shackle. I use these soft links to hook in my reserve parachutes. After finding a possible defect in a hard shackle while doing an inspection on my paramotor, I decided to put them to the test. Enjoy!
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  • @johnarmstrong5953
    @johnarmstrong5953 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Screw pin shackles are really designed to be bolted through a piece of plate. Also that doesnt look like a load rated lifting shackle. The gap is wide in proportion to the rest of it. I was still surprised it broke first tho.

  • @TSGear
    @TSGear 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Crazy how we automatically assume the steel fasteners will be stronger. Nice video.

  • @captainrick9379
    @captainrick9379 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Awesome Test! If I had to bet on that , I would have lost! Do more like this! Thanks for sharing!

  • @SharkyintheSky
    @SharkyintheSky 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very timely video. This morning a shackle came out of my buddy's harness on his Black Hawk. His lock ring could have been better, cheap wire instead of a ring. He took off and landed without knowing it was gone. It pulled left but all was well. New shackle with lock ring ordered.Good to know a soft shackle can be so strong. Thanks Kyle O

  • @sirrabo8804
    @sirrabo8804 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Show us how to tie the knots you used in those soft shackles.

  • @jordanapplegate
    @jordanapplegate 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Long-time watcher, first-time commenter ;) Love your videos. Please show how you made your soft shackles.

  • @nzdavmor
    @nzdavmor 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Curiosity killed the cat? Sure enjoy your Rube (Cajun) Goldberg engineering sol’ns!

  • @patrickfain9318
    @patrickfain9318 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow not what I expected. I'm amazed at the strength of those soft shackles!

  • @WiltshireMan
    @WiltshireMan 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow. That hook sure did fly. I have also heard just how strong soft shackles are and now great to see a demo. I'm glad you didn't get hurt Kyle! If you got hurt, that would have rymed with Kurt and you'd have been a Numb nutz or a knuckle head or something like that:))
    Sandy

  • @jamesstumpf75
    @jamesstumpf75 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That is the single most amazing video you have ever put on TH-cam!

  • @JezWalsh
    @JezWalsh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Think I’ll be adding some soft links to backup my carabiners and shackles

  • @David_Wolfe
    @David_Wolfe 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Holy crap that thing went flying at you. Damn fine test there sir.

  • @handpiecehealer
    @handpiecehealer 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Kyle! I have a couple soft shackles on my spyder 3. I lost an O-ring on a soft shackle. Getting a new one on there surely would have been easier on the hard shackle. I had read they were stronger, but this simple test made me feel better. Thanks for the video AGAIN I love learning from DESTRUCTION!

  • @MrCPPG
    @MrCPPG 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Insteresting to see. I have heard soft shackles were really strong, but to see it in a test like this is eye opening.

  • @goldwingerppg5953
    @goldwingerppg5953 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    How weird, my flying buddy emailed this TH-cam video this afternoon and I lost my shackle flying this morning. Good job, you might want to protect your foot and led next time.

  • @bennietipton2820
    @bennietipton2820 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome test man

  • @MrLuCyPh3r
    @MrLuCyPh3r 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Glad to see your toes came through unscathed!

  • @carloslara2703
    @carloslara2703 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice shacklelogy 👍🏼

  • @10661956
    @10661956 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Most excellent! Great information. Thanks!

  • @justharryjohnson7250
    @justharryjohnson7250 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting. Thanks for sharing

  • @brod5352
    @brod5352 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very Interesting.

  • @ianminushkin
    @ianminushkin 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Button head soft shackles have proven to be the strongest design.

  • @don7294
    @don7294 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    So glad you didn't lose any teeth! Always entertaining, my friend...

  • @SandiNPaul
    @SandiNPaul 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting Kyle! Glad it didn't shoot through your face shield... 😲

  • @JustAnotherAkin
    @JustAnotherAkin 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the soft shackle. Updating my reserves shortly.

  • @verticallines212
    @verticallines212 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    tucker heading south, van life. would love to see you tucker & jaclyn hook up! you can make this happen... Please love both you guys videos' Good Day!

  • @someguy7258
    @someguy7258 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    when I saw your first test setup I instantly knew that the s hook would be the first thing to go. Even if it didn't slip off it definitely would have straightened out prior to anything else going wrong. LOL

  • @lashley370z
    @lashley370z 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you make your own soft shackles? If so, could you do a quick how-to video on that? 👍

    • @12vibaba
      @12vibaba 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      th-cam.com/video/167oRagN0Io/w-d-xo.html

    • @danielbailon6660
      @danielbailon6660 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@12vibaba thanks.

  • @SuperCymru
    @SuperCymru ปีที่แล้ว

    Of course, it depends on what material the soft shackle is made from ..... as you can see they stretch to absorb load.

    • @kyleoglee
      @kyleoglee  ปีที่แล้ว

      UHMWPE Has near zero stretch. It is one of its shining qualities.

  • @lawrencebessette754
    @lawrencebessette754 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool video Kyle
    Every thing has a load rating
    I think you would be surprised
    At the load rating of the rope
    Lol it’s more than you think
    Unfair test but fun to watch

  • @karbide3084
    @karbide3084 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Soft shackles at PoA or carabiners is a great idea. I've seen 2 videos of carabiner failure on a glider and the results were disturbing..
    Redundancy where it counts the most!

  • @KeegenMould
    @KeegenMould 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool test, but since the shackle wasn't through a swing arm like it usually would be, this introduced bending stress, which is typically the highest stress in combined loading. In a swingarm that bolt would have to shear off, which is not what happened here.

    • @kyleoglee
      @kyleoglee  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good point. I had the thought as well, but this was "recreational testing" 😉

  • @BushcraftTexas
    @BushcraftTexas 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I try most things you do in your videos! Life on the edge man!!! Lol

  • @joshperryppg
    @joshperryppg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That soft link looks very very familiar...

  • @577buttfan
    @577buttfan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great idea with the jack i got a biner i want to test,dont worry Ill wear a bullet proof vest and glasses lol ;)
    I use the stainless steel quick links for my reserve maybe well change over to soft,is that dyneema or kevlar ?

    • @kyleoglee
      @kyleoglee  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      UHMWPE, same stuff they make dyneema and spectra out of.

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kyleoglee thanks dewd!!

  • @SmittySmithsonite
    @SmittySmithsonite 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great test! Wish we could've seen how many pounds of force that was. Guessing over 3k lbs., I would bet.

  • @David65702
    @David65702 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Slow day hey Kyle, interesting none the less.

  • @bennietipton2820
    @bennietipton2820 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’d like to see the same test but with a Crosby brand shackle but that was awsome

  • @chadmurray4934
    @chadmurray4934 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Teasing us with that short video LOL just a taste🤘🌮🤘🌮🤘🌮

  • @cducote6257
    @cducote6257 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It would be interesting to destruct them with some type of scale to see how much of a load they can actually handle.

    • @rolloverriderpgr
      @rolloverriderpgr 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thing is no where in reality will we put that much pressure on our shackles unless God himself is jerking on your wing.
      Still a good video showing us what could happen.
      What was the soft shackle made from? 1/4" braided nylon? That's a tough rope to begin with but this test proved it's worth in our field of use. I keep a roll of it in my kite bag and the RV for emergencies.
      Blue Sky's and Safe Journeys!

    • @kyleoglee
      @kyleoglee  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rolloverriderpgr This is Dyneema braid. FAR stronger than nylon.

    • @rolloverriderpgr
      @rolloverriderpgr 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kyleoglee yes it is. I had a roll but it disappeared somewhere in my travels. Heck I have 2 rolls of kevlar kite string 50 & 100# and a few feet of sheathing! I had to replace 2 lines on my wing after I got it.

  • @AnthonyVella
    @AnthonyVella 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What’s that thing they say about things that don’t bend?

    • @tombird4263
      @tombird4263 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      They say "they don't bend". 🤣

  • @SkiesTheLimit
    @SkiesTheLimit 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'll have to find a tutorial how to knot these up properly, I have a ton of spare paracord to mess with

  • @slodays1158
    @slodays1158 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow! What size is the soft shackle rope?

  • @karbide3084
    @karbide3084 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any idea of the tinsel strength rating on those soft shackles?

  • @577buttfan
    @577buttfan 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Kyle, I have to extend my reserve bridal so it will reach my shoulder straps, what size and brand line would you recommend,I have a couple Kevlar strap with sewn loops now but I don't trust em I sewed them myself using heavy nylon upolstery thread..thank you in advance!!!

    • @kyleoglee
      @kyleoglee  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Would need the measurements to recommend the size, but any rated climbing sling would suffice.

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kyleoglee doesn't look any bigger than 3/8 dia it's the ozone angel square short..I need to lengthen 20" as I am mounting it on the side and not in my lap.
      Thanks Kyle!!

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kyleoglee I am going to use two climbing slings and just loop em through thanks for the idea KYLE!!!

  • @jeffvandyke785
    @jeffvandyke785 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I enjoyed that probably too much :0. I was curious as to what kind & size line that was??? I’m a believer in the soft shackles now ;9) Honestly tho - I’ve never used em :0/

  • @Tommyflies
    @Tommyflies 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love it

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Genius idea using the jack lol :)

  • @jimbotom2139
    @jimbotom2139 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool info ! Nice test 🤣 thank you

  • @RobinHagg
    @RobinHagg 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    They might be stronger. All soft Links i have seen loops two times before connecting.

  • @RockinRobbins13
    @RockinRobbins13 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice! We know all You Tube viewers are primarily interested in death and carnage. This was really good carnage! I've got to get the lowdown on those soft links. What knot do you use?
    I know how to put an eye splice 7x19 wire rope. Wonder how THAT would do in a break test?

    • @kyleoglee
      @kyleoglee  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Diamond knot.

    • @RockinRobbins13
      @RockinRobbins13 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kyleoglee Cool! One I don't know. Research time. Thanks!

  • @digitalmorgan
    @digitalmorgan 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    dont they make small shackles in high-grade steel like bolts rated for aircraft?

    • @kyleoglee
      @kyleoglee  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, shackles are made from many different alloys.

  • @jamest4363
    @jamest4363 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You could always heat the metal to see if the scratches are cracks.

  • @DennisZylstra
    @DennisZylstra 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved it!!!!

  • @MrCoolcool666
    @MrCoolcool666 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just finished my paragliding course and one of the guys who started his course in Hong Kong 2 years ago wanted his reserve repacked because it hasn't been done since, he threw it and the whole pack hit the ground unopened! It was packed wrong!! Also it had what looked like 3rd hand carabeaner with a nice scratch on the inside! So if his reserve did deploy it more than likely it would have snapped! So he would have died either way? NOT COOL!!!

    • @kyleoglee
      @kyleoglee  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep, gotta pack it properly for it to work correctly.

    • @MrCoolcool666
      @MrCoolcool666 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kyleoglee After watching mike's reserve hit the ground still in the packet i wholly agree!

  • @charlesloyd1970
    @charlesloyd1970 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Kyle was that a 2 ton jack.? If so the soft shackles are pretty damn strong.

  • @pintail120
    @pintail120 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    this is why mercan ppg pilots have less fingers than british ppg pilots

  • @timscott7925
    @timscott7925 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude. You need a big helmet. TWSS.

  • @fairbanksairriders
    @fairbanksairriders 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always suspected those “Marine shackles” belonged on boats not aircraft. Life is more dangerous on the ground, specially when ur doin science!

    • @goldwingerppg5953
      @goldwingerppg5953 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fairbanks Air Riders I can’t imagine every having near the force he used to failure.

    • @fairbanksairriders
      @fairbanksairriders 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@goldwingerppg5953 It's not the force issue. I don't like the fact that shackles will loosen if not secured, this happened to me once. Straps are a much cleaner solution and with surprising strength. Now I'm wondering if there is any advantage to using the old metal shackles verses the cloth carabiners.

    • @goldwingerppg5953
      @goldwingerppg5953 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fairbanks Air Riders I actually had a shackle fall off recently. I flew without realizing I had lost one of my shackles, but I notice my takeoff and landing was poor and flights seemed strange. Against incredible odds my flying buddy found my shackle when he landed and when I landed I told him about my issues. That’s when he showed me he had found my shackle, which help explain my issues. I’m not against rope shackles and my use them at some point, but you’re right, you have to make sure they are secured and more susceptible to failure then rope.

  • @Gor1ockBlah
    @Gor1ockBlah 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    why not use farming equipment Pin Anchor Shackles. i have alot for my trackors at back out at home. they are bigger then my fist and i'm 6ft. i don't have small hands XL gloves (US) are like a fine skin tight fit.