I like how you took a look at these from a PvE perspective. For you PvPers though, Thagomizers will help with getting the one shot one melee kills and with amplify you'll have your fist up mode. Ophidian Aspects is basically QuickDraw on the warlock class regardless of subclass. In pvp, this is invaluable. In addition you gain reload gauntlet reload speed for any weapon you use (including special and heavy) and the option to run with both Increased nade throw distance and increased melee attack speed. So all in all, these exotics, especially the Aspects will have a shot at becoming a staple in regular crucible. Hope this sheds some light on stuff this video didn't.
Bryan T. I do have the gun skill. There are instances where you cannot rely on your weapon in panic scenarios. For example, my shotgun doesn't equip fast enough to save me from the Titan skating right at me with a Jugg shield. In that scenario I normally would jump laterally and nade melee. Without nades, you're screwed in that scenario unless you can equid your shotty faster than they can ADS and shoot theirs. I was hypothesizing that the Aspects would help in scenarios such as those. I'm sorry I wasn't specific enough.
STARWARSGUYE11 Well, the thing is that, aside from the boosted Energy Drain effect (which is admittedly useful) the Ophidian Aspect would be mainly useful to improve gun skill, most likely so you don't HAVE to rely on your abilities (though, again, that Energy Drain is gonna definitely help with having a grenade up more often, which I won't lie has been a defining factor in plenty of gun fights I have on my Warlock, though that isn't to say that it wouldn't also be a deciding factor on another class).
buuuuut it sucks because that part of the tree that gives you improved Energy Drain ("The Hunger") has two perks that affect your Super and nothing else
combine this with the artifact that takes ur super away and the tlaloc and ur neutral game will be the best in the game for a player like me that barely uses his super im all about this
Interesting how they didnt talk about the fact that the Ophydian aspect gauntlets increase how quickly weapons ready up. It is very noticeable and extremely useful. Especially if you plan on running a shotgun.
Maybe they didn't want people to know that Bungie basically gave all Warlocks the Bladedancer's quickdraw perk, alongside increased reload speed and improved energy drain. They're by far one of the most broken exotics in the Rise of Iron and it doesn't help that Stormcallers are already at the very top of the meta.
You mention snapshot, but not QuickDraw. The perk says "ready quickly," yet u don't mention if they give a QuickDraw effect. This review is incomplete.
I feel like I never saw a reload with the Ophidians on at all, along with not showing the weapon swap improvements. Feels like they need a bit more care and attention given to them. .....Can't wait to get my own pair to do just that. :)
Ophidian shines quite a bit more with weapons that have additional reload boosting perks like outlaw, flared magwell, etc. It stacks with those, and the effect becomes very noticable.
I actually felt like the reload bonus was extremely noticeable for the Ophidian Aspects. It was so noticeable that when I went to take the Quantiplasm~ to my Hunter, I wondered for a moment why it was suddenly so slow and sluggish.
Ophidian Aspect are an S-tier exotic in PvP even when not using Voidwalker. They have quicker melee attacks AND longer grenade throw distance which no other gauntlets have I believe (correct me if I'm wrong). They also have quickdraw which is essential for sniping and also very good for shotgunning. Increased reload speed never hurts either. Improved energy drain is basically the Hunger perk for free. Combined with Embrace and at least Tier 4 discipline you'll get your grenade back whenever using energy drain or killing enemies with grenades or nova bomb. Infinite scatter grenades for trash mob in PvE is great! I have not used any other exotic armor on my warlock since I got them.
My build: Ophidian Aspect + Memory of Felwinter This build is very welcoming for any subclass, but people might want a super.. ..so use your favourite Artifact!
Do the aspects increase Energy Drain's effect or lengthen the time it lasts? And does it stack with The Hunger? Also does the increase ready & reload speed stack with Surge? If so these things sound OP.
Been using Ophidian Aspects in PvP and PvE and the quickdraw and quick reload for all weapon types is actually kind of amazing?? They're becoming one of my all time fave exotics on both Stormcaller and Voidwalker.
ophidian aspects may need a buff, maybe change what improve energy drain has to offer like being able to push targets that survive the drain away like the taking cabals. it could also hit a wide range to drain targets close together and push more powerful opponents away. if they add that with the speed bonuses it make this atleast a tier 2 exotic.
you say the boost to reload speed from Ophidian is marginal, but it would been nice to show some visuals so we know what we're dealing with. for players that value gun skill over ability usage I can see these getting some play.
the thagomizers are a reference to an old Garry Larson comic where cavemen name the stegosaurus's tail "the thagomizer" because it killed someone named thag
Nobody from Bungie ever said they were supposed to be in TTK, but you could see a version of these on the Bungie API if you specifically went looking for them. People only assumed they would be in TTK.
They were supposed to be in TTK but seeing as they had to push back Destiny 2 a year and make another expansion in between they had to put those exotics in RoI
I could not disagree more with your opinion. First off, your voidwalker wasn't properly spec'd so you could actually show the effectiveness of the energy drain boost. Second, it does NOT grant snapshot to all your weapons - instead, it adds QUICKDRAW to all your weapons. In PVP, this is insanely beneficial. Think Single Point Sling - but for ALL your weapons. In PVE, reloading faster and switching weapons faster is a fantastic perk, far beyond your mediocre review. I'm disappointed in your 3rd rate review and hope that another member from PD will take a second look at these gauntlets.
He failed to mention that the reload and snapshot stack on top of other perks -- if you have snapshot on a sniper and spray and play, you're going to ADS and reload faster than anything else in game...take that into PvP and you're going to be a problem. IB comes out next week, these are coming out of my vault.
can some1 answer my question? ok so i bought the rise of iron on monday setember 17 but, when i bought it the guy didnt give me a code for rise of iron, was i supposed to get a code or was i supposed to go and get the code at the store? and if i get the code today or saterday will i still get the pre order bonus?
Yes there is. It's called the Insurmountable Skullfort. I haven't gotten the Thagomizers but they do give you amplify. I'm not too sure if the gives you double melee charge for all subclasses but I'm sure it does. The only difference with both of them is that one gives you amplify which is the Thagomizers. The Insurmountable Skullfort gives you transfusion which is health regen when you get a kill with storm fist and I believe shoulder charge. So they both give you two melee charges but with a different bonus.
I would do the same. I still haven't gotten these gauntlets though, I do have the Dunemarchers but those are also really good. I guess I'll just have to wait.
Lol exactly. I wonder if hands on gives more super than inverse shadow? And if either stacks with amplify? Either way time to finally use striker in pve!
Lol who is this guy. Ophidian aspect is gonna be amazeballs for warlock. Best perk of the bladedancer. Improved drain, and reload for everything, not just primaries? Its the biggest gamechanger in pvp in awhile. On the level on unnerfed ram.
it does it adds a multiplier to all energy drain effects. meaning your life steal has (this is not a confirmed number but an easy example) double the power so your health goes up 2x faster
Switchblade for hunters decreases melee cool down, instead of "increased melee speed" there's a difference between attacking faster and the cool down being shorter
This is not good content, a rarity for planet destiny. Each one of these armor pieces should've had its own review and it should've covered PvE and PvP activities.
I like how you took a look at these from a PvE perspective. For you PvPers though, Thagomizers will help with getting the one shot one melee kills and with amplify you'll have your fist up mode. Ophidian Aspects is basically QuickDraw on the warlock class regardless of subclass. In pvp, this is invaluable. In addition you gain reload gauntlet reload speed for any weapon you use (including special and heavy) and the option to run with both Increased nade throw distance and increased melee attack speed. So all in all, these exotics, especially the Aspects will have a shot at becoming a staple in regular crucible.
Hope this sheds some light on stuff this video didn't.
legit this exotic will make me main warlock
ProlificPyre dude, as a warlock who constantly loses duels because of having no abilities up, this will save my ass so much.
If you're losing a bunch of duels because your abilities aren't up, you might want to invest into some gun skill instead of relying on your abilities.
Bryan T. I do have the gun skill. There are instances where you cannot rely on your weapon in panic scenarios. For example, my shotgun doesn't equip fast enough to save me from the Titan skating right at me with a Jugg shield. In that scenario I normally would jump laterally and nade melee. Without nades, you're screwed in that scenario unless you can equid your shotty faster than they can ADS and shoot theirs. I was hypothesizing that the Aspects would help in scenarios such as those. I'm sorry I wasn't specific enough.
STARWARSGUYE11 Well, the thing is that, aside from the boosted Energy Drain effect (which is admittedly useful) the Ophidian Aspect would be mainly useful to improve gun skill, most likely so you don't HAVE to rely on your abilities (though, again, that Energy Drain is gonna definitely help with having a grenade up more often, which I won't lie has been a defining factor in plenty of gun fights I have on my Warlock, though that isn't to say that it wouldn't also be a deciding factor on another class).
Oh cool its those ttk exotics we never got.
never taking ophidian off. it gives you quickdraw, not snapshot. these gauntlets are every pvper's wet dream, especially snipers.
please tell me it gives quickdraw!! i want it so bad but this vid crushed my dreams saying its only snapshot
bam youri I can confirm it's full quickdraw and it's amazing.
It's quickdraw, and it stacks with Snapshot unlike the blades... Good stuff bungo
jro7117 PlayzMC Blade quickdraw stacks with snapshot lol
BombedOut nope, pretty sure it stopped stacking in April
Well gee I would've loved to have seen a reload with the Ophidian Aspect
It's so awesome to see you being featured on PD's TH-cam channel Ali! Congrats!!
Can I just correct you? They were added in taken king, and held back until now, to be passed off as new content
ophidian with artifact for no super/dual charges with a dis and str build would be amazing
I think he really underplayed these gauntlets
dont say that or they will nerf it.
Good grenades and a Melee that always keeps the Grenades up? That does sound neat
buuuuut it sucks because that part of the tree that gives you improved Energy Drain ("The Hunger") has two perks that affect your Super and nothing else
combine this with the artifact that takes ur super away and the tlaloc and ur neutral game will be the best in the game for a player like me that barely uses his super im all about this
Are you gonna be looking at the new hunter gloves and boots? They look the best overall imo
Will eventually cover all the Exotics, yep
I got the hunter's Shinobu's Vow if you guys need an account to test it out on.
I got the Frost EE5 from my first boots engram
+Capt28Ftw I think titans and hunters got the best.
10/10 review on Ophidian Aspect. You reloaded your weapon so fast I couldn't even see it!
Interesting how they didnt talk about the fact that the Ophydian aspect gauntlets increase how quickly weapons ready up. It is very noticeable and extremely useful. Especially if you plan on running a shotgun.
Maybe they didn't want people to know that Bungie basically gave all Warlocks the Bladedancer's quickdraw perk, alongside increased reload speed and improved energy drain. They're by far one of the most broken exotics in the Rise of Iron and it doesn't help that Stormcallers are already at the very top of the meta.
Shiiiiiitttt I Just Want one of those for Titans.....
You mention snapshot, but not QuickDraw. The perk says "ready quickly," yet u don't mention if they give a QuickDraw effect. This review is incomplete.
I feel like I never saw a reload with the Ophidians on at all, along with not showing the weapon swap improvements. Feels like they need a bit more care and attention given to them.
.....Can't wait to get my own pair to do just that. :)
Ophidian shines quite a bit more with weapons that have additional reload boosting perks like outlaw, flared magwell, etc. It stacks with those, and the effect becomes very noticable.
I would love if on the Titan gloves if you had the two charges up you'd do a a combo like a right cross and then left hand uppercut
y didn't u reload?
Not sure who this future foe is but that was a pretty cool vid. My first thumbs up in a long time. Good job
I noticed how having the Reload speed built into the Exotic perk made room for more Gauntlet perks
I actually felt like the reload bonus was extremely noticeable for the Ophidian Aspects. It was so noticeable that when I went to take the Quantiplasm~ to my Hunter, I wondered for a moment why it was suddenly so slow and sluggish.
Ophidian Aspect are an S-tier exotic in PvP even when not using Voidwalker. They have quicker melee attacks AND longer grenade throw distance which no other gauntlets have I believe (correct me if I'm wrong). They also have quickdraw which is essential for sniping and also very good for shotgunning. Increased reload speed never hurts either. Improved energy drain is basically the Hunger perk for free. Combined with Embrace and at least Tier 4 discipline you'll get your grenade back whenever using energy drain or killing enemies with grenades or nova bomb. Infinite scatter grenades for trash mob in PvE is great! I have not used any other exotic armor on my warlock since I got them.
My build: Ophidian Aspect + Memory of Felwinter
This build is very welcoming for any subclass, but people might want a super.. ..so use your favourite Artifact!
Do the aspects increase Energy Drain's effect or lengthen the time it lasts? And does it stack with The Hunger? Also does the increase ready & reload speed stack with Surge? If so these things sound OP.
I wanna know why all these exotic armor pieces weren't released with TTK even though they were in the armory, clearly ready to be released.
Please check out and see if the reload speed of the first curse while using the ophidian aspect is any better!
Do the warlock gauntlets draw the weapons faster from a blink jump ? (such as a shotgun?)
Nice vid. So can I get these from legendary engrams too???
Whats the name of warlock bond from this vid?
Looks like the FWC bond. Go hit up the vendor.
Been using Ophidian Aspects in PvP and PvE and the quickdraw and quick reload for all weapon types is actually kind of amazing?? They're becoming one of my all time fave exotics on both Stormcaller and Voidwalker.
These are obviously for Voidwalkers because of the Energy Drain but would the Quickdraw/faster handling work for sunsingers and stormcallers as well?
Yes, just as Ram's extra armour works for Sunsingers/Stormcallers.
Can you stack the improved energy drain on a voidwalker with the gauntlet perk?
Just want to know if this stacks with the energy drain boost effect warlocks get in their voidwalker skill tree.
So the warlock gauntlets don't have QuickDraw like on bladedancer
Really loving Shinobu's Vow and FR0ST-EE5 for the Hunter, really good Exotic armor pieces :D
does the quickdraw effect work on all warlock classes?
those thagomizers look so sick one of the best designs
ophidian aspects may need a buff, maybe change what improve energy drain has to offer like being able to push targets that survive the drain away like the taking cabals. it could also hit a wide range to drain targets close together and push more powerful opponents away. if they add that with the speed bonuses it make this atleast a tier 2 exotic.
Those shoulders look amazing! so big, they remind me of WoW shoulders
how do u get the thagomizers
What is that warlock bond he's wearing?
you can use the Titan gloves with Monte Carlo that's some fist pumping power
how'd he get that helmet he had for his warlock?
you say the boost to reload speed from Ophidian is marginal, but it would been nice to show some visuals so we know what we're dealing with. for players that value gun skill over ability usage I can see these getting some play.
are the new warlock boots dropping?
Does the gauntlet reload speed stack with, say, a weapon that also happens to have a reload speed perk?
I think so but not 100% sure... all i know is feeding frenzy stacks with my pulse rifle reload gauntlets so I'd say they'd work in the same way
Yes it does
the thagomizers are a reference to an old Garry Larson comic where cavemen name the stegosaurus's tail "the thagomizer" because it killed someone named thag
"The late Thag Simmons..."
Ughhh CAN'T WAIT TO get these!!
yo what helmet was his warlock wearing?
I opened 30 exotics none of them year 3
I had a few saved up got thagomizers from my second exotic I opened rng is a bitch tho my man
I got the ophifian aspects from a legendary engram yesterday and I was to open all my saved exotic engram's cuz I wanted them but rng saved them
well if your light is only 300+, you'll only get them dropping around your light level
so these exotics were suppose to be in TTK but now you need rise of iron to get them?
Nobody from Bungie ever said they were supposed to be in TTK, but you could see a version of these on the Bungie API if you specifically went looking for them. People only assumed they would be in TTK.
Actually I recall the astrocyte verse warlock helmet in a ttk trailer and we only got it now for RoI.
actually they did advertise these for the taken King
They were supposed to be in TTK but seeing as they had to push back Destiny 2 a year and make another expansion in between they had to put those exotics in RoI
What song played during this vid
I've got the frostees and shinobus vow if you want to test them
I could not disagree more with your opinion. First off, your voidwalker wasn't properly spec'd so you could actually show the effectiveness of the energy drain boost. Second, it does NOT grant snapshot to all your weapons - instead, it adds QUICKDRAW to all your weapons. In PVP, this is insanely beneficial. Think Single Point Sling - but for ALL your weapons. In PVE, reloading faster and switching weapons faster is a fantastic perk, far beyond your mediocre review. I'm disappointed in your 3rd rate review and hope that another member from PD will take a second look at these gauntlets.
IMO you totally missed the strengths of the warlock gauntlets lol. They add QuickDraw too, which is actually op af
Are the Rise of Iron shaders only for PS4?
ooh that knight-errant shader looks pretty sexy
Also use Monte Carlo and Transfusion for a PvE machine.
Why can't bungie update the old TTK exotics to change with shaders?
But they can -_-
Lordland Well only some exotics can.
Lordland Bungie can update them, but the RoI exotics change with shaders but the older TTK exotics cannot, minus a select few
why aren't you showing how much weapon swap speed you get from the warlock gauntlets??
I don't know if I should be disappointed for the Thatomizer perk...
I really like it but I never use striker... defender is where it's at
He failed to mention that the reload and snapshot stack on top of other perks -- if you have snapshot on a sniper and spray and play, you're going to ADS and reload faster than anything else in game...take that into PvP and you're going to be a problem. IB comes out next week, these are coming out of my vault.
can some1 answer my question? ok so i bought the rise of iron on monday setember 17 but, when i bought it the guy didnt give me a code for rise of iron, was i supposed to get a code or was i supposed to go and get the code at the store? and if i get the code today or saterday will i still get the pre order bonus?
yea you still get preorder bonus you have to go back to GameStop and give.him the phone number or receipt
ok thank you for responfing
np
what warlock bond is that and how do you obtain it?
not sure what bond but it may be from the speaker , or an engram. I doubt it's future war cult though
thanks for the reply
The taken king fwc bond, 100% sure of it (I main a fwc warlock)
need in my life!
You didn't talk squat about the QuickDraw!
What happened to the old crew? I miss them...
Pair this setup with Monte Carlo and you will be a pve GOD
i got that nemesis star machine gun it's a beast shreds in pvp.
Please tell me that warlock helmets name
Iron Camelot from Iron Banner
Rest in piss Xbox players.
These looks sick!
isn't there a helmet that does the same exact thing adding an extra melee charge?
Yes there is. It's called the Insurmountable Skullfort. I haven't gotten the Thagomizers but they do give you amplify. I'm not too sure if the gives you double melee charge for all subclasses but I'm sure it does. The only difference with both of them is that one gives you amplify which is the Thagomizers. The Insurmountable Skullfort gives you transfusion which is health regen when you get a kill with storm fist and I believe shoulder charge. So they both give you two melee charges but with a different bonus.
Honestly I would go Thagomizers over Skullfort just because that free amplify can stack with discharge and every discharge kill you get is amplified.
I would do the same. I still haven't gotten these gauntlets though, I do have the Dunemarchers but those are also really good. I guess I'll just have to wait.
If you check out my profile on Xbox (same name) and look at my captures. I think the first one was my first test with them down in the abyss on Crota.
I'll have a look. I play Playstation 4. Still nice to know that you're a fellow Titan since there are more hunters and warlocks.
Thagomizers + Monte Carlo = win
stormfist overload + transfusion × Monte Carlo × Thagomizers = JUAN PANCH!
Lol exactly. I wonder if hands on gives more super than inverse shadow? And if either stacks with amplify? Either way time to finally use striker in pve!
Ah I see, thanks. Very informative reply!
One-Two punch for an electric element and a melee? Anyone sense a Bioshock reference?
can you review shinobus vow
Lol who is this guy. Ophidian aspect is gonna be amazeballs for warlock. Best perk of the bladedancer. Improved drain, and reload for everything, not just primaries? Its the biggest gamechanger in pvp in awhile. On the level on unnerfed ram.
Now if only Titans can hit something outside of kiss me range smh, Bungie has yet to really fix this issue.
shoulder charge
melee range was standardised across all classes so everyone has the same range as default Hunter melee
Uh. Wut. When? Patch notes please?
I was somehow hit by a Titan but his hands didn't touch me he lunged but I jumped and he missed still died
Patch notes.... I need patch notes. Cuz I don't believe that.
Equip the titan gauntlets with bad juju: Super per second lol
Combine the thagomizers with bad juju and you got a storm fist machine
The new shaders look awesome so there is that...
sounds like mtashed exaggerated on these warlock gauntlets once again as he always does for anything warlock related
I got the new hunter exotic gauntlets
Ophidian Aspect is basically just a better version of helm of ahamkara
So the thagomizers are just the claws of ahamkara but better, greeeaaat
Thagomizers! holy shit gimmi! i want, right now!!!
Those gauntlets gives you infinite grenades
pair the thagomizers with monte carlo imho
the warlock glove would be better if they increased the benefits of life steal insted of energy drain
it does it adds a multiplier to all energy drain effects. meaning your life steal has (this is not a confirmed number but an easy example) double the power so your health goes up 2x faster
your def right! life steal would be way better. good idea
Vince Star 🐇
The warlock gauntlets look so cool. Why does their perk have to be so god damn useless?
Lol the perks are god tier for pvp...
the perk improves gun skill.
I enjoyed this reveiw
So why are hunters the only one without a "increase melee speed" perk now, there used to be one but they changed it like wtf lol
Every subclass has one in gauntlets ._.
Switchblade for hunters decreases melee cool down, instead of "increased melee speed" there's a difference between attacking faster and the cool down being shorter
SG Gunner maybe because most of your melees are throwables and it wouldn't work? plus blinkstrike is already fast.
Man the soundtrack
This is not good content, a rarity for planet destiny. Each one of these armor pieces should've had its own review and it should've covered PvE and PvP activities.
does red leg doe 0:22
why did the warlocks have to get the shitty exotics??
The thagomizers look like a certain Primus' armor...
So...the Warlocks got the short end of the stick. Average at best gloves, below average helmet and boots that make you...crawl faster
the gloves are insane dude, they are probably going to get nerfed soon because they are so good
I can't beleive this so there is like 8 exotics that you need roi to get but was suppose to be in TTK woow
The only one I can think of are the warlock boots. Other than that the rest were datamined and that's never a reliable source of information.
Where's the dunemarchers review?
QuickDraw, not snapshot. QuickDraw = how fast to switch weapons, snapshot = how fast to aim your weapon!
It doesn't add snapshot it adds quickdraw
not noticeable? are you kidding me? i have the unending deluge machine gun and its pretty noticeable on the reload speed
Warlock gauntlets are broken af
i can let you use my nemisis star PLANETDESTINY so you can make a review