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Pete, THANK YOU for showing us the photos you're NOT super happy with as well as the bangers. I feel like seeing those is just as inspiring as seeing the great ones, since it gives a more honest view and shows that even amazing photographers capture sub-par shots on occasion. I mean, I still loved all the shots you showed, but some were obviously (subjectively) better. Also, film is alive and well! :) Cheers /Freddy
Your passion and drive for growth as an artist are contagious. Thanks for taking us on the journey with you.
I just finished my first year of studying photojournalism and in doing film I think the thing that helped most was pushing myself to shoot my roll, it helped find compositions and scenes and unique elements! Cheers on the continued film journey, you’re the reason I started photography in the first place back with playing card photography!!!
Your videos are an island. An island of chill and mental peace in a physical, mental and digital life full of smoke and noise; it entertains, teaches and it helps me to feel me greatly when the clouds come to my mind. This is more than ASMR and any photoshooting tutorial video on YT. Thanks a lot, Pete. Greetings from Spain.
As one who started on film. I can feel all of this. I have a lot of fun going back to my old photos and seeing what I can do on Lightroom with them to bring them a little life.
Keep these coming, please! I'm loving watching the process happening almost in real time. And seeing your newfound excitement and enthusiasm for this whole learning project is fun and ultimately inspiring.
I’m 52. I remember my dad and his Minolta (which I now have) sitting and waiting for everything to be “just right” for a photo. There was no editing, and he had to get everything from light, to exposure just perfect. I love the old vintage (does that make me vintage) feel of film photos even when they’re not perfect. This all makes me so nostalgic.
I feel your passion Peter, this is something I never thought you’d get into and I’m so happy you have! Welcome to the film photography community!
I've been watching you for the past 5 years, and these recent videos are some of my favourites. Love seeing you venture into film at the same time I am, feels like I fell in love with photography all over again
Great video mate, I appreciate your honesty and I love at the end you said, "It's like I'm learning photography again". For me, I'm a wedding photographer, I'm a decade in, and so many times feels unbelievably repetitive, however, like you, I'm forever trying to better my understanding and learning. Love the set up by the way!
I used to shoot medium format back in the day, and haven't touched film in years. I remember always going by the rule that if I had just 1 really good shot on a roll, that was a huge win 😅. Thanks for re-awakening the desire to rediscover film again 🙌.
It’s a real joy to see you genuinely hyped on film photography it’s refreshing!! Can’t wait to see what you capture next 🔥
Being of that generation that had no choice but to only shoot film, I was glad to see the back of it. I revisited it once for nostalgic reasons, but was quickly reminded of why I abandoned it asap. Way too expensive, time consuming and not knowing if anything is wrong during a roll. A fun video as always, Pete. Cheers.
same here , i shot film 20+ years (1989-2008 or so). and don't want anything to do with it. digital is a blessing. its a trendy hipster thing to go "i sHoOt fIlM, i'M sO aRtiStiC" , no sir , you're a masochist and hate yourself lol
I am totally with you on this, started with film and dark room. It’s just a paint in the arse, nice for an art project, but too costly and time consuming for a commercially project.
@@FMJP it’s not that it’s easier, but that people just see it as a different way as opposed to the instant gratification you get from digital. It’s exciting. I say that as a 33 year old. I was around before digital. Imagine how it is for someone who’s life has only been dominated by digital.
I get all these points and I’m not aware of any photographer who got started before digital cameras became a viable option and has gone BACK to film. But I shoot both film and digital and I enjoy both so much. ...shooting on a 80’s SLR is the most enjoyable to me, with all the limitations that come with that. It feels so much more "pure" to me (and don’t get me wrong: I love shooting on my modern full frame mirrorless with all its amazing and extremely useful features!).
I started with film in the 80s, joined the Digital Bandwagon in the mid 2000s, but only own 2 digital cameras currently. Never pulled the trigger on another digicam since. If I need a digital image now, I use my iPhony and done. I have purchased 3 more film cameras in the last 4 years though, 2 medium format Mamiyas and a Leica M7 and I am having a blast!!!.
I exclusively overexpose 1 stop and that has largely produced better results across the board. With regards to finishing rolls, it took me awhile to find the balance between film being a "slower" process over digital and actually finishing rolls for a particular project (especially when I'm doing street photography or shorter trips). The way I found the balance is to take a lot more photos of interesting subjects. So, where I would have normally just shot a subject twice, I now try to shoot it 4-5 times with different framing, exposures, etc. That seems to have helped me find that balance. Also, I shoot more medium format now. I get 10 exposures per roll of 120 (Pentax 6x7) and I've never not finished a roll lol.
Dude, that's really, really cool content. I know the feeling of not being able to finish a roll, it sucks. I forced myself to finish a roll once, it sucked even more.
But the wait for the roll to be developed, and the discovery of photos you'd forgotten having taken, the expectation and thrill when finally seeing the few photos you KNEW were good... Makes it all worth it. 🤙🏻
I like this Pete season. Feels authentic and personable. Look forward to seeing the studio.
Thumbs up for C41 Lab getting these back to me in literally 30 minutes so I could make this video! Haha, I love it! (p.s. watch the whole video lol)
Keep it up!
Hey did you happen to use adobe audio enhance beta or what was your mic set up on this video?
Definitely gonna need more context!!! 🏴☠️
Have you looked into Lomography films? Lomochrome purple is seriously fun!
*waits for you to get a Mamiya 7*
The videos lately have been feeling like they’re being told by a dad & he’s just discovered something new he’s really really enjoying. The videos feel warm & comforting 👌🏻
Peter's passion for the little things in his photos is so refreshing. Makes me want to get outside, shoot, and explore!
I love what you said about not wanting to conform to 4x5 and have people view the pictures the way you want them to. I know I lose engagement when I do that, but I often can't help myself, because I don't take pictures for social media engagement, I take them because I love it.
Loved it Pete! Love that you’re sharing this journey on improving shooting film!
"I want to suck more so I can get better." That’s actually a great life lesson! After learning several musical instruments and also photography for a few years, I really connect with that.
I'm soo pumped for you hitting this new creative stride! That ending rant was all I needed. Stoked on you right now, Pete!
Good for you Pete!
It's always exciting when you can feel growth 🍃
Imo this was one of the most interesting videos of yours Pete. Going through the photos with you felt so relatable (especially the rock that didn't quite look how you imagined!!) Thanks for sharing!
Congrats on learning even more about your art form and in the unique area of film!
This was a great video. I’ve watched a lot of your videos and you’re a great photographer, but seeing you be humbled by film is so fun. Film requires you to focus and take the ONE shot you want, as opposed to taking 10-15 to get it. It’s much more satisfying when you get the right shot in the moment. That’s the Henri Carter-Bresson feeling when you get a single picture of what you want, not 12. I’m excited to see you go through this process because it feels like you’re now experiencing what photography really is. Modern photography is like taking a video and selecting the best frame.
hey Pete. Love that you're doing this. I've always wanted to. And this video for whatever it is, even the fact that you thought you sucked and see room for growth, is so cool and inspiring. Can't wait to see how you look at and handle your hurdles through all of this.
Above everything else... the honesty in this submission is the reason for a thumbs up. The moment he said " The problem is i dont like these photos very much" - We have all been there.
Think of some of the best and most iconic photos of all time. Each of these photos tells a story, and that’s what photography lost with digital. It has become more about shoot and pray and less about waiting for the right shot or bringing out the story.
Kudos to Pete for showing off his early work. Personally I like the barbershop photo as that tells the best story out of the lot.
Great to see you exploring and enjoying the analogue process of film. Fantastic work, thanks for sharing your workflow and passion.
thank you so much for sharing your process with us Peter! I rlly share a lot of those ranting thoughts you have. ever since i came back to shooting film you see life with a whole new different approach and sometimes things you thought they were going to turn out they just don’t but it’s okay, it’s part of the process of becoming a better photographer.
just a quick advise, if you ever feel like a 36 exposure roll is way too much (happens to me too) go ahead and shoot medium format, i’d recommend 6x7 since you get 10 shots and it’s kinda middle ground. sometimes i also struggle with 645 and 6x6. hope you find this helpful and i’m eager to continue to be part of your process with film. cheers from a film lab in mexico. xx
You should honestly make this a series or regular video. From an amateur/hobbyist point of view it was really interesting seeing a pro photographer looking through their photos for the first time in real time. Especially as you're learning film which kinda brings your 'level' down a bit so it was refreshing to see you didn't like some of what you shot. It mirrors more what I and many other photographers experiences are like which makes it refreshing and relatable to watch. Certainly different than seeing a video where a photographer nails every shot and is portfolio worthy which is usually the case on YT. Looking forward to watching more of your journey on film
Keep going! Perfection is a journey, not a destination…
I took exactly the same journey for the same reasons a few years ago, the problem was I understood the physics of photography but disregarded it half the time due the incredible variable iso on modern digital cameras, and the amazing autofocus tech we now have available, the list goes on. I found returning to film with a old M3, no light meter or autofocus and only limited ability to push or pull film within a stop or two of its box speed made me re-think photography, appreciate the craft of the artists of the past and allowed me to grow more as a photographer.
All these lessons have also been incorporated into my digital workflow too, in turn making me more rounded, like being able to just zone focus with my digital camera in a super low light environment when the autofocus can’t quite grasp what I want to focus on…
Digital photography is objectively better in fundamentally every area, but that’s only part of the story. Just like vinyl it’s the imperfections that we love, why? Because we too as human’s are flawed, but it’s then flaws that contribute towards a bigger more beautiful picture!
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Peter I'd so watch an episode of you creating a full dark room along with developing your own film and prints. I am so glad to see you going back to your roots and making a new adventure. I think it is expanding your channel by bringing in new fellow film photographers!
Crushing the film content! I just started in film and I’m going through all of the same ups and downs rn. I love it!
Thanks for inspiring a generation of photographers(me included) to go into the art, and now to start/try/switch to Film. Grateful for your videos and tips/tricks beyond belief.
I love this!! This is showing process and learning and this is totally relatable. I like this much better than if you loved every image. It is so cool to see the behind the scenes of you developing your skills. Please keep going with this!
Most of my life has been digital yet these photos feel nostalgic to me, I think seeing shots taken from my parents as a kid. These feel more historic and almost more important to me than a thousand digital shots.
It has the inaccessibility I felt then, as though these are unique unrepeatable moments locked in forever.
quick learning task for y’all, to take more time while or before shooting.
so get yourself a small capacity sd card, so like one where you can only safe up to 16-60pics (maybe even a slower one, so you need to take your time between the shots)
really get‘s you in the mindset to think more, before you take a shot👏🏼
and as always, love your work pete🫶🏼
I started film photography over 40 years ago. I remembered the sale person told me that it was too complicate to use a SLR camera and should go for a point and shoot type camera. I was determine to self taught myself, so I bought a book "Encyclopedia in Photography" , and for every chapters it was a roll of film with my little pad and pencil making my setting note and comments on every frames. Afterward, I would compare my photos with more experience photographers for good criticism which I had some amazing shots, some good, some alright, and then some bad shots. Only with time you can improve your skill. However, it is the joy of shooting film and waiting for the result later.
Honestly I love your mindset with film after experiencing the difficulties of it. Not ever shot is perfect, yet sometimes that is what makes the shot perfect. Theres a beauty in the imperfections and like all photography, the more you shoot with film the closer you will get to having those perfect rolls of film. Keep at it Pete, we all love to see it!
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One of the cool things about shooting film, is that it strips you butt naked as a photographer (if you have only shot digital). Most people will experience some kind of disappointment once they go analog, but sticking to it can only make you a better photographer (you will notice it once you go back to digital). Once you get a knock-out shot on film, the risk of getting hooked is high.
- And people will realize that more megapizzels isn't the important thing in photography.
Very honest! I appreciate you sharing your development with film. It's true for every field. You need the challenge in order to progress and the work you're not 100% happy with because that's what guides you along the way. I'm building my first custom motorcycle and it's a similar journey.
Thanks for sharing!
I really got a lot out of what you said. It was also insightful for me to see you, in my opinion, the modern day master at taking great photos and videos, struggle with photography. It proves that photography, like all art, takes time and practice. If it was easy and everyone could immediately do it consistently well, no one would be impressed. Thanks for keeping it real and I have no doubt that if you keep at film photography, you will crush it in no time!
Was in the same boat as you, dug out my film cameras not long ago and I got so excited about shooting again. I love the mechanical aspect, the analog feel and sounds. Film forces you to slow down, really think about your shots before you make them and put all of your intention into every frame. I had a similar feeling when I got my shots back, some I loved, some not so much, feeling out how the camera likes to expose etc. It's been a lovely experience and I can't wait to shoot more film. I look forward to seeing more of your analog work
This is everything. People are so scared to look vulnerable and lose what got them there, but what got you here won’t get you there. Being willing to challenge yourself will lead to so much more energy and excitement for the creation in which will result in better output and you can feel it. Great vid my man 🙏🏻
These are the types of vlogs I'm here for. I'm loving this journey you're on. I can't wait to pound through this roll I have in my Bronica and get into some Cinestill!
I love this. I started shooting exclusively on film last July and it's so cool to see you experiencing exactly what I felt in those first couple weeks and months.
I have been shooting film for years now and I always try to work the scene for a better "good photo" yield.
I try taking at least 2 or 3 photos of the scene if I believe in it and I try not to chase the "perfect roll".
Anyway, love to see you enjoy the process Pete !
Pete, you're my all-time favorite youtube personality, and seeing you dive into film is the most exciting thing ive seen on YT in a long time.
I inherited my grandpas old cannon film camera last year and fell in love. I cant wait to see your romance deepen. Cheers brother!
I absolutely love the new film content. I’m 16 and picked up film just a few months back. Had previously been watching your videos but decided I liked the honesty and emotion that came with film. Also, great vid.
What's your camera buddy.
Walgreen gets you Kodak and CVS gets you Fuji. Just a quick tip for you
Although challenge is always a good thing that helps us grow, your digital photography is not "easy," it's practiced. And, because you have so much practice, it's effective.
Thank you!!!!!! I was having trouble wording this sentiment.
Hang in there Peter, it gets better with practice! It is a different process than digital photography and you have to learn reading and metering the scene differently. Eventually, you ll get more amazing shots out of a single roll but it is also ok for not every pics to be perfect or a “banger shot”
Great video Pete, always happy to hear what you have to say. Truly glad to be owning my own photography business, honestly have been a subscriber for way longer. On that wedding grind nowadays, blessed to be able to learn so much from creators like you.
That black pro mist for weddings tho
Motivation that you reflect while talking is priceless man thanks a lot 🙏😎
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Taking it back to film I remember my first time picking up a film camera 30+ years ago and going into the dark room to develop it and seeing you bring it back wow love to see you get into it
loving this series
Wow finally coming around. Never thought I'd see this day. A great photo on film is equivalent to a godly photo on digital. A godly photo on film is on another level.
You're funny Pete. I learned with film--no other options back then--and praised digital when it came out because it seemed 'easier'. There are aspects of film I do miss but so many more options when editing digital than with film. Less of a chance of missing that one shot...
I guess I'm in love with film photography now!
These recent videos are GREAT! We need more.
Love is the answer ❤
Good video, especially reassuring to see that the film subject wasn’t just a quick single view farming piece.
Can’t wait to see a video of you actually taking the photos and maybe discussing your thought process and developing them yourself after!
Next step - developing your own rolls. It's already rewarding getting your images back from a lab, but it's even more rewarding when you go through the entire process yourself. Interested in seeing if you'll start doing that!
This would be so cool!
Literally just started doing my own and never got the hype until seeing the negatives that first roll!
I was thinking the same thing. It’s just a matter of time before Pete does this. And the level of control on the final images is awesome. Blending your own development process with your style of shooting to get the EXACT result you had in mind: priceless.
The magic of developing your own film and seeing what you got as soon as you can is an amazing feeling.
Yeah I feel that's where my love for film is. To me it makes little/no sense to edit film in lightroom.
Try the built in light meter in the m6, imagine the center box in the rangefinder as the metering area and point it at anything close to neutral gray or whatever is between lightest and darkest part of the scene. I also set my iso dial at 1 stop over for ex 200 if 400 or 100 if 200 etc, it makes a difference. Hope this helps ☺️🤘🏽
"I want to suck more, so that I can get better."
That's a great attitude to have, Pete. It's called learning from your mistakes.
Love these videos! ❤ I’m going to see if I can find my old film camera in the loft! You are just so inspiring Pete x
Keep making videos mannn, we love it! ❤
i love this new era of peter mckinnon, I really do.
Very early in my photography on both film and digital. Excited to follow along with your film videos. I actually just received my second roll before watching this, it was exciting to feel a sense of improvement from one roll to the next.
This is Pete in the raw, sharing and learning, going thru what we all go thru.... love the human side of it brother!
My favourite thing about your channel is seeing your excitement and passion of learning new things, dont stop learning and trying new things, you da man Pete
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I love this new kind of content and the challenge of analog photography!
I shoot a combination of digital and film. I use Black and white film to train myself on producing better, more authentic black and white images. Using classic Black and white film such as Tri-X, T-Max and HP5. I have also returned to the darkroom and I love the sight of a print developing in the tray. I love the process.
Dang. I just started a website on squarespace and did mention you, but I did not get the discount. I was amazed what I was able to create in a couple of days. I only started to check out pricing, then next thing I knew I was in trial and ended up publishing tones of content and amazed my family for I manage in the matter of a day. Really amazing.
And thanks for all of the inspiration over the years.
i love when you tell a story from your heart
I appreciate this video! I've had the same feeling - eager to review a roll, only to get the scans back and not like some frames, or wonder "what the heck was I shooting here?" ... thanks for this one, Pete!
So excited you are headed here to Atlanta; I actually just returned from Toronto 😆! Not sure how much time you have, but there are so many great street photography opportunities here in the city that I love using my film for! Thanks for sharing your special Iceland moments and encouraging me to use my extra rolls of film.
beautiful.
this is what im developing during my photography experience. when i started i looked like a happy trigger. Now its single shot mode and a little delay for second thoughts before the snap.
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seeing you go through the trials of film makes me want to pick it up!
The process of getting better is something that's always worth the journey!
I love these new types of videos Pete!
Hahah..that's the theme for film photography, just cause you got the film colors and tasty film grain, there's SO much more that goes into cooking up a great photo. Not all of the rolls are going to be great, but the experience and challenge of shooting film is damn near as rewarding as a good photo. Emerson said something like, "it's not the destination, it's the journey" and I think it applies well for shooting film. Enjoy yourself.
Hey Pete! I started shooting film in the 1970s, greatest use was in the 1980s -1990s. The standard joke was that you buy bulk film in 100’ rolls, bulk load dozens of cassettes of film, shoot it, put it in Kodak mailers, send it to Findlay, Ohio, get cool gold and black boxes back, throw them on the light table and review with a loupe, throw away 98% off the slides because they sucked in one way or another. Welcome to the journey! :)
PS-still, nothing, NOTHING, equals the joy of absolutely nailing the composition, exposure and focus on a single frame of film, straight out of the camera! Its like you performed real Hogwarts style magick!
Thanks for Sharing!
I'm from the generation where there where no digital camera's, and seeing you mastering film makes me feel young again.
Haven't seen your video's for years! Nothing changed. Same stories, different camera only less views. Nothing is endless. People move on. But you're still doing good.
That is pretty cool. I've been watching you for years now and have always enjoyed watching your unique style continue to grow in different ways.
I love shooting films for this reason that drives me to improve what I do🔥
I fell the “romantic aspect” of shooting film fades away with all the “technicians” make digital files, adding presents and tweaking the photos before the “artist” had a chance of seen it.
So excited you’re getting into film!
It's totally okay to shoot on both film and digital... I do! Now you need to exeperience the beauty of working in a darkroom! :-)
I stopped caring about the 4x5 unless it's for a client. It's my art and should be viewed how I took the photo. Stopping caring really let me express through my art. So glad you got to that point.
next level to film photography is making prints - that really makes you think (when taking pictures): "would i make a print from what i see in the viewfinder?". super experience.
Progression as an artist / photographer should come from a place other than ‘what camera format should I shoot with next?’. Develop yourself as a story teller. find a narrative to explore, then it doesn’t matter what you shoot with because the story is no longer about technical image structure. It may be an exploration of the people of the land through a portrait series, economic / social situation of a particular region..or an abstract landscape study that embraces a singular viewpoint ,, you name it. However ,,If your into just making decor photos, then one can’t expect to hit anything below the surface. There is always the painful turning point of “what next?” “Been there done that”.. so getting inspiration by researching topics and what other artists have done can help. When it’s all said and done, photography should be an art form to say something and not just a technical exercise.
Totally agree with you regarding the aspect ratio part!great vid Pete!
Thanks for sharing this 👍
My fav is the barber shop pic. It captures a very real moment in time. It feels like your there. I personally think it would work well if it was blown up.
@JennaDR no you don't