Why German Mercedes are Better than American Mercedes
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- Mercedes Benz car review. Why German Made Mercedes are Better than American Made Mercedes Cars, DIY and car review with Scotty Kilmer. German Mercedes vs American Mercedes, which is better? German vs American cars. Why German luxury cars are better made than American luxury cars. Should I buy a Mercedes made in America or Germany? Car Advice. DIY car repair with Scotty Kilmer, an auto mechanic for the last 51 years.
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Scotty - The last Subaru I'll ever own is a 2011 Outback 4 cylinder 2.5i Premium. The first three months I owned it, it was in the shop more than the 98 Outback that I had over 13 years (123k)
I'm at 92k now and I'm contemplating selling prior to the 100K service. I put on some crappy ACDelco rotors that quickly warped when I avoided somebody running a red light. Minus a few door dings, it's in pretty decent shape cosmetically. Other than the brakes, the power steering is starting to seep out and I get an occasional weird starting sounds (like an extended "shhhh" sound). Should I put more money into it or cut my losses and run away?
Thanks - Sean
Scotty. Do you think Lincoln (being built by ford) is a good alternative luxury car to a Mercedes and it's expensive repair costs? What do you think about Lincoln continental and the company's efforts to build a new fleet over the last few years?
Scotty Kilmer I understand that in Europe they use Mercedes cars for taxis and other tough jobs. I can’t imagine they would do that here.
AGCO uses the same idea for tractors. The tractors are shipped to the US in pieces and assembled in the USA.
HA HA, mine was made in Germany. A 2013 S350 Bluetec. Got it in 2014 new with a $20,000 discount, nobody liked it. Has been great so far and does not have all the fancy stuff, nightvision, rear entertainment or rear seat exec package. I didn't need all that, came with the sport package and all wheel drive. Yes I live in Texas, but have a place in NM and Colo and visit Canada. Only have 38K on it, so hoping for the best in the long run, but we will see. Always love the content.
A german worker gets a 3 year education. In US they get a 3 day training on the job. ...
Thats the reason why US cars are not sold in Europe: we don't want scrap !
German are known for quality as well! they want the best like the Japanese.
We are the best.
It’s also made in Alabama where everyone is inbred mutants 😂😂
Autobild reliability report as well as the JDPowers report speak otherwise.
Us cars aren't crap anymore
I live in Germany. My father once bought a Mercedes-Benz importet from the USA, since the US model was a bit longer or something. At the Mercedes-Benz store they told him that when they import the cars built in America, they always have to tighten up screws and that kind of thing after importing because the built quality is just inferior for some reason.
Some reason!?😂🤣😂
Come in Alabama MB plant and you will figure out, immediately, what are the reasonS!!!
Every 3rd person is fooling around like zombie and just chatting, burning time and making SUBstandart products. MB built in Alabama always has infamous positions in the list of 10 worst (quality wise) cars. Electrical system of ML model has been designed very badly and amateurish, years after years on the row.
Toyota's quality is stepS above .
MB is a good car for about 40-50 000 miles and after that is very frustrating mechanical hemorrhoid. Total disappointment. Management is cutting costs from very strange things and components which, inevitably makes the ones glorious Machine to look like pathetic and cheap mechanical sub product.....unfortunately!
I used to admire the MB but no more after having 2 cars with multiple mechanical components made from cheap materials and failing prematurely (but heavily overpriced ×5).No, thank you but no!
@Marquis Doe Not exactly. MB pays competitively similar wages to Toyota, but quality control is incomparable. I don't think that the wages are problem #1 .
@@guerguistoyanov137 Wow, this is so weird to me. I am German, too. I try to do my best at my job. It is just my responsibility as an adult to keep my society going. I know that when I do something for the company it is always good for me.
Edit: you know, "burning time" at work is actually something the bosses here try to enforce. All my last bosses were busy telling me and my colleagues to go home early, take my vacation. When we talk about the workplace problems it's usually about how burn out is a problem or how to make sure a team member goes home when he's sick. My last boss literally never looked at the time I wrote down because he wanted me to not think working overtime would earn me any credit with him. He actually sent me home once when I was working late. Yes, people working too much is a huge problem here. I guess it's a different culture.
Scrap From America
Der Aua, bei uns herrscht leider amerikanische Kapitalismus lange vor unsere Humanität, denn Kapitalrendite ist Job 1, 2, und 3. Der Mensch und sein Wohlsein nimmt in den meisten Fällen sogar dritten oder vierten Platz, dadurch werden wir immer tiefer ins Hinterher geraten. Noch schlimmer ist unser peinlich idiotischer Präsident Pumpkinführer der Meining, er kann den Rest der Welt mit seinem lächerlichen Make America Great Again Mist tyrannisieren. Die USA werden nie so verdammt great again bis wir darüber endlich ganz klar werden. Am 3. November 2020 wird uns eine vielleicht letzte Chance gegeben, diese Scheißregierung wieder in Ordnung zu bringen.
"Buy Mercedes only made in Germany" has on exception: The G-Class. Made in Austria.
Cause the g class is originally a german car&invention -> Puch G
austria is even better. but they dont need to brag about it
@@nutzeeer Austria is Germany with a little twist.
Our Chrysler 300 C was build in Austria too. We love this car by the way.
@@udo230FL The Chrysler 300C is an old E-Class
As of 2019
C Class (includ. AMG C63, C63S): Alabama
E Class: Germany
S Class: Germany
G Wagon: Austria
CLS: Germany
GLC 300(includ. AMG GLC63, 63S and Grand Coupe): Germany
GLE(includ. AMG and Grand Coupe): Alabama
GLS(includ. AMG): Alabama
If you see a green sticker covering the manufacturing origin at the dealer on the spec sheet, it's on the bottom right corner behind the acrylic covering.
What about the SL and AMG GT
@@enigmazero37564 Germany
ML?
@@atos.nympha3451 GLE is the replacement for ML
I always wondered how come my 2009 w212 e250 diese was so reliable and never had any issues... turns out the American made mercs have tarnished their reputation
We also drive WAY less in Europe.... the distances between work, home, vacation, etc. are less
I agree with you
This
Really I've done 340 mile roundtrip to work six days a week before now,Durham to Edinburgh n back
Yes but wait, mostly short trips on a car is harder on it than longer trips. It doesn't get to fully heat up and charge batteries as well etc. Using you vehicle more should give it a longer life really, as long as we're not talking a service vehicle or one that's beat up. So I don't buy that argument so much.
@@paulpower7018 that actually doesn't make sense. Long trips are short trips plus some highway. You still drive the cold engine part plus some warm engine part. At least on a per day basis. Per mile you are correct though so maybe the mileage comparison is in favor of longer commutes with a higher proportion of highway driving. But another argument against that is with higher gas expenses and more rapid need for routine maintenance, people with longer commutes are more likely to fall behind in maintenance.
Parts are usually cheaper since they're local there in Germany. They also do much better maitenance work at the dealerships I hear. I think bad German cars are a stigma only in the USA. People in Germany make German cars out to be great over there
Not just the US. Mercedes in Australia are not so good.
@Hans Another thing is perception. Actual breakdown data is needed. If you're comparing your Mercedes reliability to Fiat or Volkswagen or Renault or Morris, then you've got a different baseline than you have in the US. Not that GM has great reliability.
A good Mercedes is the expensive one. The rest is just like any VW: A mass product that must appeal to millions of potential buyers. There is nothing, absolutely nothing superior to a normal Mercedes unless you're buying the S-Class and upwards.
Make
Germany
Great
Again
MGGA
I had a 81 Honda made in Japan it had a beautiful interior, the carpet and cloth was good, everyone that rode in my car commented on it. I did all of my own repairs and can tell you it was easy to work on and well put together. Later I got a 92 Honda and it was good quality but I still think the 81 model was the best car i evrer owned.
When I was a young mechanic, I had to fix these cars with stone wheels that had 1 driver power and had to yell "Yaba Daba Doo" to get them started.
They don't make em like they used to.
i used to work at JEEP, and the slavery system requires you to work 6 days a week, 10 hour shifts. focus is totally on production and quality goes out the window ( KL Cherokee)
Because German workers actually focus completely on work when at work.
They are paid a lot better than American workers, and they have a LOT more time off.
This. North American working culture is still catching up to the reality that less work and less stress = greater productivity and better quality.
@@DanaTheInsane And it works out great for everyone this way.
Germans are well trained for the job they work at. My boyfriend, who is german, has a sister who works in a bakery. She had to go through training for a year before working in a bakery. They're not thrown into a job and "learn as you go".
How is it the US workers fault when the part that failed is made somewhere else?
So basically if you build your Mercedes on their website they give you a option on where your Mercedes can be made and I’m assuming having it built in Germany would be the best choice
Likely US DOT and emission standards would make ordering a made for the German market automobile for US delivery cost prohibitive.
Johnny T I think you can go to a dealer in Germany and custom order one from the factory to have American specs.
They'd probably be a lot of import duty to pay. I don't think there is anything mythical about German build quality, not to say its poor at all but I believe it is somewhat overstated.
Mattblaster 14, I wasn't aware of such. Thank you for mentioning it. Is the cost difference significant? Also, if a within US destination fee is say, $1000, I wonder if that fee differs significantly when ordering direct from Germany for the US market.
@@clumbersnutch5859The import duty is worth paying, because you will avoid having to replace loads of parts after 6 years
I have Mercedes C Clas 220 , 2015
And this car is great , But yees i live in Sweden , and my car is made in germany
What is bad about that MB did invested in 2017 and 2018 over 2BN and between 2010 and 2015 2,4BN ????? Is this a bad move?
Can’t get it, really
So you think....
How much have you spent to maintain it and how many miles?
Does it say stuttgard Chrysler benz lol
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Never buy a Mercedes with a vin starting with a number.
A God vins starting with numbers are made in America.
ddavid122
1 is US made
2 is Canada (?)
3 is Mexico
Same goes for Japanese cars. Make GOD DAMN SURE the VIN starts with JN.
all my mercedes have started with W.
SeamHead33 Same with me, and my W212.
Scotty, I spoke with an old German guy. He said older Mercedes, particularly the S class until the late 80s, were built with love. Afterwards starting in the 90s, Mercedes hired so many folks to build the lesser models. Mainly farmers and poverty level folks.. Quality suffered greatly. The last real great Mercedes were the 420SEL, 560SEL and 560SEC.
That might have something to do with German reunification. They had to find something for a bunch of unemployed East Germans to do
@@Alejandro976 As a mechanic who’s worked on a lot of classic/older Mercedes, I’m not a fan of the W140. It was the first Mercedes Generational Chassis Code/Model that wasn’t a true “forever car” in the sense that it could be infinitely serviced and maintained the way the W123/W124/W126 were. The W140 was the first Mercedes Benz model that was dependent on electronic computer chip engine control modules to run and had lots of parts made out of plastic garbage. Avoid the W140, if you want something reliable, then, get a W115/W116/W123/W124/W126.
so they are making counterfeit Mercedes over here in the U.S
Reverse engineered ones! lol
No they just terrible on the first place.
No, you americans just dont understand that 70% of mercedes cars in Europe are with diesel engines, our gas is 5 to 10 times more expensive so we need cars that consume less fuel.But on the other hand diesel engines are more robust then gasoline engines so they last longer, yes even 4 cylinder diesels. You americans are obsessed with V8 gasoline engines, you want power, but power doesnt always mean quality. So there you are, that is the main diference you americans failed to recognize.
Burleon Cadillac suck👎 German all da way!!!
the engines / drive trains for bmws are made in china....huge bmw plant there.....wouldn't be surprised if the engines for Mercedes are also made in China.........
I love the fact that my Lexus IS is a JAPANESE car made in JAPAN.
getting rarer and rarer. new mazdas are also made in japan.
My 2007 infinity also, things a beast, it still has Japanese letters inside the engine compartment
@@MarcoAntonio-rc9sd always go for original place of origin. if i want german i want it made in germany and likewise for japan
MrWalker1000 a lot of things like tools and electronics are made overseas, but there are also a lot of tools made in the USA
Supra 2020 fans can´t understand this...
In New Zealand our Mercedes Sprinter vans are made in China. Seem to last pretty well
That's because chinese workers are good.
@@manoman0 hahahhahahhahahah china is a worst nation
Mate do you know where the sedans in NZ are made?
@@jemand9122 Lern du doch erstmal englisch.
@@bainyt727 warum sollt ich englisch lernen du kek , die können genauso gut Deutsch lernen
When I was in Europe (Czech Republic) most of the MB I had smaller engines and fewer hi-tech options. There were basic vehicles - unlike those sold in North America ... they were also much cheaper than those typically sold here. I noticed the same trend when I visited the U.K. More diesel models, 4 cylinder gas engines, etc.
Couldn’t agree more. That’s really the problem over here. Like Mercedes mechanically last forever. I now have a C-Class and my mom used to have an E Class that was 15 years old when we sold it. Anyway, she got a mechanic to look at it, found all the problem electronics and manually disconnected them with a switch underneath the steering wheel. The only reason we sold it is that, after 15 years of Canadian winters, the front end suspension started to fail (generally that happens within 5-6 years in this country due to rust!).
Yeah! When you walk into a Chinese restaurant and you didn’t see any Chinese customers inside, just walk away! 🤣🤣🤣 I’ve tried once, they don’t even cook the rice properly.
You're right...
Most of them have Mexicans working in the back, just like any other restaurant.
@Tiberian Fiend Mexican can cook good Chinese food if they were trained properly, but my point is, if no Chinese customers inside a Chinese restaurant, it must be something wrong with the food🤣
True...
@Ronald Poon - That may be true if you live in an area populated by Chinese people - but if you live where there are very few Chinese people,you're on your own in that regard.
I've always been a GM guy, but GM today is an empty shell of what GM used to be. When the stock market economy was started in the 1980's and everything became about corporate profits and investor returns, they started going to hell.
Actually, the big 3 started going to hell before the '80's, they started going to hell in the mid '70's.. They were focused on cutting cost and increasing profitability and investor returns, while Japan was focused on increasing quality and winning customers.
Mercedes in Germany treats their workers as equals, they're unionized, paid well, have national healthcare that doesn't bleed them dry, they get so many weeks of vacation time per year, and worker representatives actually have seats on the companies Board of Directors there. Oh that sounds like evil Socialism!
Here, in the U.S.A., we're Capitalist! Workers are treated like low life's, paid as little as possible, hired and fired to adjust company profit margins for the executives and investors benefit, and unions are shunned and destroyed whenever possible. Private healthcare insurance cost workers a fortune while offering less and less, making their executives and investors more and more money. No way in hell does any corporation in the U.S.A. allow workers to have a say on their board of directors, even though workers are what built the companies.
It's not really hard to understand why things made in Germany are probably better than anything made here in the U.S.A. Fifty plus years ago is a totally different story, the U.S.A. could hold their own against anyone and come out on top. It is pathetic how we've been destroyed by the greed of our own people.
I aint no liberal, but you are right.
^ This is completely accurate.
true Germans do the job 100%! do don´t twist around with quality!
I'm totally a GM guy. I have a 2014 GM and I regret not a moment having it. It feel solid, it is solid.
Ric Pel The problem isn’t capitalism, it’s the fact that most Americans do not pay for quality, therefore manufacturers do not create quality. Every time you buy a low-quality item you are voting to get more made. Also note in Germany most families only have one car, and public transit supports them, you don’t get that here in the US.
Ahhhh. This video finally explains it. Thank you Scotty. I always wondered why you were always putting down the Mercs when the 2 I bought have been the most reliable cars I have ever owned. I live in the UK so I guess mine have been made in Germany :)
Question for Scotty how long does it take to find all the images for the videos.
depends on the video length, usually 2-3 hours just for pictures
@@scottykilmer I'm impressed with your understanding of pop culture at your age, it is often better than your understanding of cars :). My Dad would never know who Rammstein is. Mercedes has built some very reliable cars, just stay away from S class with way too many high tech features. And unlike Toyotas the car will actually tell you when something is wrong.
@@scottykilmer do you ever sleep!! lol
2 to three hours? That's hundreds of dollars in billable time. Try Google images buddy.
@@scottykilmer keep up the good work i love those pictures!
Hi Scotty, love your videos. I'm a tool maker by trade and I've been in machine tool sales for the past 25 years. I've done a few projects that were automotive related and the main reason why Toyota's are more reliable than other brands has to do with two things: 1) pace of innovation 2) investment in hard tooling.
Toyota has always been behind the Germans when it comes to bringing new technology to the market. Still to this day the Camry uses NA 2.5 litre engines as they have for 15 years. This gives them time to perfect what they make. They also make a much higher volume which allows them to invest more in "hard tooling" manufacturing methods. With Hard tooling you don't need to inspect parts as much, the process is more stable.
Lower volume car makers have to use flexible manufacturing methods which can make quality control more difficult by the fact that the process is less stable. To make up for this manufacturers will use more inspection machines.
There are many more reasons that also contribute to the reliability of European vs Japanese cars. European cars have more technology and are made to higher performance standards. In order to insure reliable operation owners need to use specific fluid types and use quality wear items when performing maintenance. The problem is that in North America we tend to look for cheap alternatives (fuel, oil, wear items etc). The Japanese, and to an extent American cars, that are made to a lower tolerance and have less technology are less affected by this.
I think the Korean manufacturers have it right. German engineering (some) and Japanese manufacturing methods. It appears to be working for them.
Thanks for some valid mfg comments. Still imho Toyota has capitalized on it's reputation and has made average cars since 97. I'll never buy any post-1999 Honda or Toyota.
Antoine Pageau so you’re saying Toyota today is outdated ? They probably have it right now to mix direct and port injection for longevity but my recent Corolla test drive was lackluster in engine response and poor audio system. But NVH was superb on par with Lexus. I tell people Toyota probably takes care of their customers more than Ford or Honda but I’m not sure.
One of the best arguments I've heard in a long time.
People knock a GM pushrod engine too but they are fantastic engines imo. If the Toyota engine last....dont muck with it!
Dude who cares about technology and speed? realibilty is %10000 more important, that's why toyota/lexus makes the best cars in the world, european cars are pure unreliable garbage
I don’t buy anything made in USA. Sorry. More PR than quality .
Most Toyotas and even some Lexus are now made in USA. So are Hondas and Acuras.
If “ German engineering” was so good, we would have won 2 war’s not lost them. Japanese car’s all the way. German, and Italian car’s = overhype
Look up what che guerrara thought about africans
Moritz Müller was haben den deutsche Ingenieure mit dem ersten und zweiten Weltkrieg zu tuen haha
Matthew Aniston my grandfather was king tiger commander, and is 97 right now. He said every German new they where going to lose, and he only fought to keep the Soviets delayed so they could get German woman and children out of Berlin. He had 27 confirmed kills on soviet tanks, and his tank was hit at the end of the war and every man expect him and one other burned alive in the tank. That war was such a waste. So many good German men, died over poor choices by are leaders. Also German tanks broke down constantly, I know that to be fact. As I said before, my grandfather was a king tiger commander and said the only thing good was the gun and armour everything else was lacklustre.
My Mercedes C280 from 2007 was made in Stuttgart and has been a great car.
Same here. I’m at 120k miles. A bit worried about the state of the automatic transmission and wish I bought standard transmission but all is well
Got a 98 c230 n/a w202 model, 296k still runs like a clock of the information ℹ️ says stuttgard benz it’s real but if it says stuttgard Chrysler Benz run!!!!!
have a 2006 c280 with 172,000 miles made in Germany some quick oil change place was selling it for 5500 I drove it out the lot for 4000. Selling it to my friend to pay for new corolla hatchback.
u are so right!!!!
i used to work as a mechanic for Hertz rent acar...
toyotas made in england vin number starts with s
turkey with n
france with v
but japans with J
when comparing s,n,v with j
side by side absolutely nothing could match J's quality
j vins were visitng the garage just for scheduled service
while other vins had numerus brakedowns
trims lights seats soundproofing everything was top of the for J's in comparison with the other vins!!!!
keep in mind that when one went to the toyota store to buy a new car the one a client could see and test drive was a J version!!!!
and the same thing goes for almost everything
a hobby of mine is watch colecting and repairing
i can tell you that
casio
seiko
citizen that are made in japan have way more quality than the ones made china thailand etc etc.....
nicholas greece
Yep, good assembling and quality control is an art, and many people underestimate that even if the cars have exact the same pieces!
What letter for USA?
@@Previdnik it would start with a number. 1, 4 ,5 for US , 2 for Canada, 3 for Mexico etc
@@Previdnik F for Failure
@@Previdnik dont know about that my friend .
I can only tell you about cars that are imported to Greece.
You can tell Scotty like his job. Nothing gets past him. He knows all the numbers and all the news. Amazing.
Scotty, I really want to thank you for your honesty and information. I live in Switzerland and I saw a 2008 Mercedes S600 with low mileage for sale, but it said "US import". At first I thought so what, when I watched your videos about Mercedes. Now I know, only to buy German made Mercedes, thank you very much for saving me a lot of money! :) (By the way, the dealer was asking as much money as for a German made S600!!!)
mehdi hossein for some reason, all the S in The US are imported from Germany too.
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My dad drives $35,000 miles a year and always drives Mercedes because (unlike BMW and Audi) they last a long time (he keeps them about 200,000 miles) and are safe, and comfortable.
Then he does good service to them, proper oil to the "Mercedes bevo" and nice wear parts from quality oems can't be that extensive.
Does that mean Merc has a monopoly on "better" suppliers?
Joe Casson I meant 35000 miles, my bad.
Metzelbaer Nibbels My dad st first has a 4 year / 50000 mile maintence plan but after that we send it to a Mercedes specialist.
That means hes very unlikley to have many short-trips.
Mercedes Benz and bmw in America are endless money pit junks, I still love them.
Haha agree.. just spend the thousands now that you would spend later on regular maintenance and use it for performance upgrades and make it go really fast.. your going to spend the money anyway... 500hp bmw 335i
I'd say yes on Mercedes but no on BMW. Got a customer with an 02 530i and 200k still runs strong. Only major issue last month was water pump bearing failed as well the fan clutch. Replaced all that with new hoses and thermostat still runs smoothly. Haven't had much luck with Mercedes lasting that long with regular proper maintenance.
@@justinpass8154 agree.. on my bmw I have not had any issues because I have replaced everything That usually wears out under a 100000 miles with upgraded performance parts.. I've had it for 2 years now just hit 90000 and she runs strong.. never left me stranded yet
I have a BMW 528i 08'. Only issues I've had is misfires due to ignition coils going out. A year in and I just did my 4th ignition coil replacement. I also have 155k
Hal White blame Bosch for that. Hitachi makes longer lasting coils for Japanese cars that last 100k miles. Bosch electrical parts tend to go bad much sooner.
I live the Uk, taxi driver I know has a 2014 Mercedes Eclass with 250k miles on the clock and still climbing solidly
I am from Germany and buy mostly Mercedes. And I have to say my Mercedes were all extremly reliable. I never had a single issue other than the regular maintenance and I had 4 and put 150k miles on each if them. C and E Classes. Nothing broke, everything worked perfectly at all times. Which is why I am so confused when people talk about the bad reliabilty of Mercedes. I never considered the wuality might vary based on the production country.
I love his style of presenting things. He is so passionate in his videos. 👍
THe "FU king" chinese sign is in my town...LOL : Lake City, FLorida ( I live 1 mile from that restaurant...LOL )
The French Traveler Artsinfotos lol. I didn’t see that until I read your comment.
@@gumaming same here lol, I'm curious how do you guys pronounce that name? Like "fucking"? Or "foo king"?
Ik where u live
Your town seems to be like in the middle of nowhere.
I saw a photo of 'Sam and Ella's Burger Bar' once. Not sure if it was the real thing. They would not have lasted long if they were.
In 2008 I bought a new W204 C class built in Germany. I ordered it with a 6 speed manual transmission. It was one of very few, if not all the only one, in the US with a manual transmission. That car was rock solid. It was rear wheel drive, and I drove it in the winter occasionally was snow tires and it was fantastic.
Several year's back my brother bought a Mercedes in Germany. He was given a tour of the factory and had to drive the car around Europe for a couple thousand miles than had it shipped to America. He said the savings paid for his vacation to Europe.
You're right, and I think the same thing about VW and Audi. I had few made in Mexico and one made in Deutschland. Can't compare!
Pro tip: if you decide to buy another German built model, start your search in Stuttgart and environs. The locals work for Mercedes (and Porsche and Audi), they get great discounts and often re-sell comparatively cheaply.
Keep in mind, though, that you'll still have to organize the transport, import and then get it street legal. Can be done, though.
That being said, there are great US made cars to be had...why bother with all of the above? 😂
Yes. I have an 07 jetta. Made in Mexico. Fun and cute...but an endless moneypit! Will never buy another one!
@@p.s.shnabel3409 I just bought a used 2012 A3 TDI. After looking through its included documents like the maintenance booklet, I found out half of the dealer stamps were from German dealers for the first half of its life, then it went to Texas for a few, and then eventually to me in California. I do have to say, it feels nicer than other A3 I have been around. This car was also originally US spec as well. Really odd history (most likely a tourist delivery) and I second hunting for a German built German car. They're just made to tighter standards.
They are not made, they are assembled in other parts of the world people. Not the same thing
@@elchucapablas you're right, technically. The results are as described...
#1 Mercedes sold in Germany generally speaking are de-contented vs what is sold in the US.
#2 Germans drive far less miles.
#3 Parts are sourced globally so there's really no difference.
#4 Because Benz (BMW/Audi) are marketed as luxury makes in the US there's an upcharge on repairs/maintenance.
#5 Benz was trying to avoid the chicken tax (25% import tariff)
German Mercedes are built to drive safely on the Autobahn at very high speed, the US cars?, no.
exactly, i own an infiniti, which is a nissan in japan.. all infiniti parts have nissan logo on them.. a lot of parts infiniti parts can be bought at a nissan dealership because g37 and 370z have same parts. nissan sells the parts half the price as infiniti even tho they are the same parts and have the same part number at both dealers. infiniti charges twice the amount because it is "LUXURY" gtfo
@@fazole hey. The us freeway is not the autobahn. Plus, you are talking about American drivers behind the wheel.
In Germany and Japan somebody has the guts to stop production when things are out of spec.
Quality is a choice.
The problem lies in that sheer numbers are seen the very day, quality (or lack of) will haunt you every day after.
true Germans do the job 100%! they do don´t twist around with quality!
@Kilo Byte German cars build outside Germany yes, but not "German build in Germany" cars is the difference i quess? I have never driven a car made outside Germany, so i don´t know why the quality difference is so big as it seems to be?
I am surprised of what Scotty is saying about german cars build in the united states are bad.... why i have no idea?! Is mercedes so bad in the united states?
Maybe you can tell me more about the cars, are they really that bad? Scotty jokes about them in many of his videos, why is the quality so bad, when the japanese are doing so fine?
What about american build cars in the united states, are they bad as well?
@@metalgearsolidsnake6978 We do have some flaws with german built cars too. Some E class mercedes from some years are not reliable as other brands in the same class. Some Audi engines fail earlier than others. But usually they play in the same league as toyota, honda or mitsubishi. There are some japanese models with quality problems too. Nissan qashqai f.e.
So German cars are high quality in assembly and just badly engineered and cheap materials? I've driven BMWs, Mercedes-Benz, Audi's, and there were problems just as in American cars, I thought even more. Want me to name a few?
@@Reparaturkanal Were they assembled in USA? than probably most of the parts are made in USA too. It is not so, that the parts are made in germany and shipped over. Maybe some parts, most are organized locally.
Imagine how terrible American cars are over in Germany.
thats why they are pretty much non-existent here. Seeing a dodge driving around is super rare.
the only US make that is big in europe is ford. and they are pretty reliable actually. however they are all made in europe. germany and the UK have a big ford factory.
@@longdonglarry Renault is more reliable than Ford tho, because my family had a 90s Mondeo and a Ka and they were pieces of junk (weak engines, rust problems, terrible electronics, etc.), where the 1st gen Laguna sedan (230.000 km), 2nd gen Laguna station (130.000 km) wagon and 3rd gen Clio (currently 39.000 km) we had were/are very reliable! My uncle in Albania still has a 2nd gen Laguna sedan and according to him it's a very good vehicle! It's all about the proper maintaining, when it comes to Renaults! Ford (at least in Germany/Europe) on the other hand is nowadays a hell lot better than they used to be in the 90s! Idk about Fords in the US!
Ukog Nos well I have not owned a recent one but I have heard of the poor Ford Focus engineering for block and head cooling which affects head gaskets. I saw a one year old Ford Focus with rust already eating the body away. The sound and comfort and power of the Focus ST is great. I really wanted one but I thought about the poor resale value and reliability issues. I heard Ford is also too tight with their money when things break down.
@@jamesmedina2062 Ford has potential, but they fail in some pretty important areas of reliability, but they seem to improve! A perfect example of this are the Mustang and the Edge! Like I said older Fords were horrendous in my opinion! But I still rather buy a Renault, a VW or a Kia than a Ford, because like I said I still have some doubts about the reliability!
It’s really a good point. As a Mercedes owner, I never pondered “US” Mercedes.
I'm so glad you cleared this up. I always wondered why you picked on Mercedes so much, and I gotta admit, I would always get a little offended when you made fun of them, but now I understand completely. I have a 2011 E550 coupe (built in Bremen, Germany) that is driven very hard, and is still solid as a tank.
About 12 years ago I test drove a 1975 MB 280S (W116 with carburettor) that was for sale for aud$850. The A/C didn't work, the power steeing pump didn't work (belt was off), the brake booster didn't work (but the brakes themselves worked well) and there was wheelarch, sills and surface rust. Still registered, though! (No annual inspection in Western Australia; if you keep the rego current and drive carefully so that you don't attract "official attention", you can keep an old car on the road fairly easily.)
Anyhoo, we got in and took off down the road, and I was just blown away by the driving experience! What an amazing car! Even in the condition it was in, and with 300000km on the clock, the engine just purred with zero smoke and the transmission shifted on time and smoothly, and the suspension and steering felt amazing. What a car! It cruized down the freeway like it was brand new.
It is still the best car i've ever driven, with inherent quality in mind (NOT sportiness!). Yes, the brakes took a good shove with no booster, and the steering was VERY heavy, but the quality of the underlying engineering shone through even so (and I've heard that you can completely rebuild MB power steering pumps and A/C compressors).
I didn't buy it because I was unworthy of such a project, skills and garage space-wise, but now I wish I'd bought it and stuffed it away somewhere, and the seller took $100 off the price, too! I could have had my very own W116 for $750!!! Oh well...... It was that olive-y minty light green colour with olive green MB-Tex interior. Sigh.....!
Now, Why German BMW are Better than American BMW Cars ?
Lost in Translation...
Germans want their stuff to last, it's kinda a pride thing, same with the Japanese. Americans not so much...
Nonsense really, I would trust an average American car to make it to 200k without an expensive failure before an average German one.
Funny my 2000 diesel volvo had 850k kms when i sold it. Still was running fine. No smoke or oil burning.
@@deviouslaw That's because they are very simply made and a bit behind compared to European brands. Of course the more complex and 'high tech' cars are made, the more can go wrong.
I think one of the problems in the US has to do with the publicly traded corporations. The executives are rewarded with stock options, and literally anything that causes the stock price to go up results in big bucks for these guys. That could mean laying off everyone who makes more than $x per hour, the long-term result of which is all the well-trained workers are laid off. But hey, Wall Street "analysts" deemed it a good thing because costs were cut, so the stock price went up and the executives cashed out.
Yep.
Publicly traded shares arent a bad thing. But I thoroughly think that corporate america should think of stock bonuses as bad incentive structures.
When even Americans say daimler should produce in germany...
The editing of those slides while he’s talking is freakin hilarious! Great job, Scotty! I love it!
Scotty, I can tell you from experience from working at a Toyota manufacturing facility in the United states that part of the reason for lower quality in the US is because these vehicles/engines/transmissions are being built using old outdated equipment that the Japanese have replaced with newer equipment in their own factories. Some of the machines we use daily are 30-40 years old!! Not all fault is on the workers in these places but mostly using handmedown equipment and less quality control than in the homeland of the vehicles.
Thanks for the valuable info!
Cass Pierce is the reason why Toyota Sequoia is junk and the Land Cruisers are unstoppable? (That is a series question).
I am sure the Sequoias aren’t “junk” but they definitely aren’t up to the standards that are placed on the Land Cruisers...
@@335i101 Yes all Toyotas made in Japan have less quality issues. All the engine and transmission plants there have hardly any defects. Can't say the same about our US plants. Although the Japanese take great pride in their work, that's not the only reason they have better quality. I assume a similar effect happens with other foreign manufacturers.
Cass Pierce Thanks!
4:14 Jeremy Clarkson from Top Gear reviewed the first generation M-Class, and he didn't like it. The quality wasn't German. True, because it was built in America.
Oh. I remember seeing that. He went on a massive rant about the awful build quality from the American factories, and how there were massive + inconsistent panel gaps. He also said there was an overall poor fit and finish with low quality materials.
I have always wondered why people complain about reliability issues on bmw and Mercedes cars, when my bmws have lasted years without a single problem. I now know the reason. Both of my bmws were built in Germany and I brought them back
Plus they treat their Cars like 90hp toyotas.
My mom is German. She always kinda scoffed at the Mercedes worship here in the states. Because she said (just like Scotty did) " They use them as taxis in Germany" not so special.
Was going to my files the other day and came across the window sticker to my BMW. Says 80% assembled in Germany.
I'm driving it in a lake for you Scotty.
It means the parts are made in China and some guy or woman in Germany slapped the stuff together (or worse) repackaged it to slap the label "Assembled in Germany" on it. LOL
Hey Scotty, which endless money pit out of all endless money pits is the least endless money pit?
Fred You know his answer, “Toyota or Honda.”
I have to agree, although I wish there were more quality brands to choose from....
Toyota all the way
Lexus. He has answered this a 100 times.
@@BreakingNVain every car is a money pit.
I had a Honda and a Toyota that were money pits...All jokes aside...my 02 Chevy Silverado has been insane...252,000....changed radiator and headlight.
This is so true. I have a 1998 E320 that was built in Germany and is doing great at 215,000 miles, but a couple of days ago a 1998 ML320 built in Alabama came in to my shop and I invited the youngster employees to go out and compare the two since the differences are numerous and staggering.
You remind me of Dennis Hopper's character in Speed.
yes I see that for sure
What was the reliability of old American Muscle cars? (late 60s early 70s)
They were built to last three years, so... poor. They are easy to repair, though.
Jim Kowalski
The engines and transmissions were bulletproof the only problem was the rust
I have a '70 440 Challenger, third owner. Almost everything (except engine which was replaced for HP and paint of course) is original and in working order. 50 year old electric motors wiper washer etc were working like new. I'm more inclined to believe that if an owner treat them with respect, they would really last long. Maybe it's just me...
It depends on how muscley you want to go. The old 409 Chevys weren't too reliable if you drove them like intended, neither was the 427 Ford but they did okay if you just cruised around town in them...
@@joew9392 the 427 was a racing engine so of course it wouldn't be very reliable. And sure there are some less reliable examples like the chevy 409, amc 343 or buick 215 but overall the american engines of the time were very reliable
I agree Scotty-----I bought a 10 year old Mercedes 3 years ago and have NOT had one repair---NOTHING and it was built in GERMANY !!!!!!!!!!!! It is a 2006 CLK 350 convertible and is the best car I have ever owned---by far. The factory recommended maintenance is done at the dealer.
tom burke how many miles on it?
@@MrOscar5690 I bought it in2016 with 38,000 miles. Now it has 50,000.
@@tomburke1687
That's really low miles. Almost any car can meet that std.
Finally someone that said what I was thinking for the last decade
make a video on v12 engines, cover mercedes, other brands and ages
Thank you. Here in Germany, all service vehicles are Mercedes. Ambulances, police cars, fire trucks, taxis, buses and a lot of fleet cars. If they weren't reliable, nobody would use them.
I have two Mercedes and I'm not that rich to afford the maintenance.
I've had my 2005 C220 for 9 years now and the only things that I've replaced are: Turbo hose, climate control control module, sun sensor and I've had to clean out the EGR valve and swirl flaps, cause it's diesel... Good idea on any diesel. She's been my daily for the past 7 years and she still looks almost new. Thank god for company cars (also Mercedes) XDMy second Mercedes is a 2007 E420 that makes 400hp and 950Nm... Not bad for a dad sedan.I bought the car last year with bad DPFs and a few engine fault codes. Gutted the DPFs and the fault codes were a few bad sensors.
Car runs like a dream. In Europe... if you maintain a Mercedes properly, it will last a long time.
That applies to any country. All these fools in here think old cars dont require maintenance. Yes even your beloved old lexus needs work
Your 2005 Mercedes have a big knowing rust Problem. Today rust is no issue but electronic problems (windows, light, control module, cables) made cheap in other countries. Mercedes let pay well for maintenance. Also the new engines made in corporate with Renault.. what a big deal. Hope your Mercedes will drive another 9 years without issues
4:24 LOL 😂😂😂
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تتابع سكوتي وانت راعي جمس 😂🤣
This man is a blessing to all car owners
I don't know about Mercedes, but I work at a BMW factory in Germany and the cars that are going to US are double proved and double, triple checked every little part. Plus the Americans have the JDM quality Standart.
But the Toyota Camry is manufactured in Georgetown Kentucky!
toyota knows how to controll their workers. They probably controll them the same way their control their kids, strict.
German managers are too easy going probably.
Toyota 4 cyl engine valve seals go out at 100,000 miles if assembled in US. The same seals fail at 300,000 on engines made in Japan.
BeekoewSoo in Japan, they use prapa TechooNikkoo during AssemBree. Japanese SecretRee Rook down on American auto workers who bring disHona to their own peepoor.
a valve seal has nothing to do with the country of assembly. those parts are made globally and sent to the various assembly factories. they must be giving the american shops inferior parts for this to occur
Mercedes here... E220 CDI W211, (edit, misspelled "turbodiesel") turboiesel 4-cylinder. NEVER broke down on the road, only thing that broke was A/C compressor last year, and it lasted over 10 years... It has a good 327500km (203500 miles roughly), and it's comfortable, doesn't rattle, every electronic bits work, I think the only broken thing rn is the front right headlight washer mechanism doesn't squirt water, but you can live with it.
German made mercedes are simply better, better Q.C, better manufacturing, lower dealer markup, cheaper parts... Just better.
Some points to make:
1) Lexus also now produces the ES here in the USA
2) I've also purchased a Mercedes made in Germany from 2011; transmission started giving me issues after 2 years/40,000 miles and I was told that I needed to spend $2k-$10k to repair the issue. So even German made cars can be imperfect.
Hello Scotty, Mike here from Punta Gorda Florida. 2 years ago I bought a 2000 Mercedes c230 with 112k miles on it that was made in Germany for $500 and all I've done mechanically is replaced the altinator since then. 6 years ago I bought a 2003 Lincoln town car that had 333k miles on it for $100 dollars, the Lincoln now has just under 400k miles on it with only relatively small issues over the year's. Thanks to channels like yours I do almost all the repairs and maintenance on them. Both car's run and drive like new, in your opinion if you had to choose one to keep and one to get rid of which one would it be ?
MobileMountain sell both and buy a toyota
Hey Scotty 🙋♂️
Nice video with valuable information 👍
Thanks 🌹
Scotty the Lexus ES350 is made in Kentucky. Along with the Camry and the Avalon although they are made to the Lexus standard meaning they brought the Japanese over from Lexus in Japan to teach and mentor our new American plant. They seem to be doing a great job in Kentucky. My mom is currently on her 6th Lexus ES. First 4 I believe were made in Japan. And she has had zero problems with any of them. Drove each one until around 170k and bought a new one. Phenomenal cars. Built to a much higher standard structurally, mechanically, and electrically. Lexus is tops!
Hungry Hungarian here :) There is indeed a Mercedes factory in Hungary (since 2012) that builds B class, CLA and CLA shooting brake models, about 5000 people work there. There is also an Audi engine factory and a BMW factory in Hungary, there is a reason for all this German production moving to Hungary. Hungarian law provides lower taxes, flexible employment (read: they can fire people more easily) and easier overtime (read: the manufacturer does not need to pay so much for overtime). Hungary is culturally very similar (used to have a large German population before the world wars, still has some), is close geographically (about 600 miles from Stuttgart to the Mercedes factory in Hungary) so transport is easy, and it is in the EU so it can't screw over German manufacturers like China or even America can, they have a much bigger say in how things are done in Hungary, intellectual property, etc. Proximity also means easier temporary relocation of German engineers for different stages of starting a production line. Finally, local schools and universities are happy to modify curriculum to fit the needs of these manufacturers.
you my friend are spot on as usual, I feel this way about Volkswagen
Rev up your European CDI Benzes with over 300,000km!
(after purging the fuel injection system with Liqui Molly to avoid clouds of black smoke :D)
I have a 2003 C class w203 220 cdi which has driven 265 000 km, i have used the car to drive from norway to morocco (4000 km) 4 times with no stops and the car never went over 90 degrees celsius and ran great.
Scotty is right. When we were in Europe- we saw Mercedes Benz taxis that were 40 years old. They were still running strong.
Thank God- our BMW 760i was made in Germany. Germany is World renowned for making the Best of the Best products. Their Tools and Cars are fabulous.
Well Scotty, Mercedes made in Germany are not more reliable that the one you have in the US.
They are troublesome cars and very expensive to repair.
Taxi drivers drive less and less Mercedes now and go for Toyota's or Lexus and it's easy to understand why!
He basically said it in his video, and draw the wrong conclusion. In the US, people who buy Mercedes typically buy luxury cars. So they're probably buying models/trim that aren't as reliable. Probably. Where is the data???
Are you high
I see pretty much only VW Mercedes and Hyundai Taxis
I have never seen a Lexus or Toyota Taxi ever in Germany
Any Mercedes after 1993 I’ll
Pass. I’d love a 190E. Good looking and easy to work on
I drove Mercedes for 18 years. They were solid and reliable C and E classes built in Germany. Then I bought an ML made in Alabama. I had repair bills an inch thick and all of the problems mentioned on the MB forums. My first and last MB built in USA.
I live in Germany and can confirm this thesis for several brands and builds. One could state:
What it takes is very well-skilled workers and engineers working with a minimum of head room for their profession. If you continuously cost-optimize product design and production *any* brand will turn into crap sooner or later.
At the end of the day the price sensitivity of the customer is what drives all of this. In Germany we are willing to pay WAY more for a decent quality car than in the States. And I'm glad it's that way.
To give you one example: A base-line Mercedes C Class with the 258 hp V6 with *no* extras MSRPs at EUR 51.372,30, which currently converts to USD 56.941,57. Are the viewers from the U.S. willing to pay that money to get a well-built base-line car?
It’s not Germans working in the German factories building Mercedes it’s Turks and Yugoslavs and poles
Yeah, they almost have no work ethic at all.
I'm sure quality checks are still done by Germans.
@@CanadaBud23 You are terribly wrong here, Croatian, Turks.. are build Bavaria, and in this are devoted, building cars among others, than football (soccer)....
Little history lesson 😂
München have the largest groups of foreign nationals were Turks (39,204), Croats (33,177), Italians(27,340), Greeks (27,117), Poles (27,945), Austrians (21,944), and Romanians (18,085) according to Wikipedia and my knowledge, I'm from 🇭🇷 and Poland are calling new Germany now, industry... most Polish are in Great Britain
Igor Jakuš I don’t know any Croatians personally but if any one of them work as hard as Mandzukic or Luca Modric then I know they work very hard!!!
and my dad was born in yugoslavia
Looks like MB has sent that check.
Hahahaha
Hahaha my thought too
Well, "the truth always lies somewhere in the middle". It's not all that black and white. For instance, several of my family members and relatives drive a Fiat 500 (small model) a typical car for females here in Europe and they are all extremely satisfied with such car. That car has been produced in a well known Polish factory for years now. At the same time the large 500 (less popular model) has many problems and is produced elsewhere. So it even depends sometimes of the model and if it is produced in a new factory with 'child diseases' or not. Having inside information is everything!
1999 Mercedes C Class 2.0 petrol with automatic transmission went to 255,000 miles before my Grandma sold, its end mileage is unknown.
It's not just with cars, but other brands as well. I worked for Siemens a couple of years building switch cabinets for the industrie. The Siemens ones are the most expensive on the Marketing because of their quality. But nowadays they have factories in China, Hungary, Poland, Czech,... and they start closing factories in Germany. In those other countries they build the switch cabinets faster and cheaper, but the quality is not comparable. That's no secret among the employees, but we do not make the decisions....
As an Irish person, driving a Mercedes built in Germany, it is supremely reliable. Ambulances, garbage trucks, vans, ice cream trucks, police paddy wagons etc are Mercedes, heck even our big rig trucks are Mercedes Benz and the busses, so that holds merit
Hi Scotty, what do you think of BMW twin turbo diesel engines M57 and N57? They seem to be pretty good and long lasting with plenty horsepower and torque.
The M57 twin turbo (2008-2013) is a very good great engine. But the N57 is a junk horrible motor with lots of problems. (When you find a BMW from Alpina buy it. ALPINA BMW's are the best handbuilt engines with the best quality inside. Greatings from a German BMW Driver.
Rev up your Mercedes
-1000 on resale value.
And see a christmas tree light up? No thanks.
I tried that and my Mercedes AMG blew up
I'm so confused. What am I if I were conceived in Germany. By. German parents but born in America... but don't worry I I was conceived by Fiats but born in America ! Lol. but my psychiatrist is a German Jew!
@@vinnylenci7311 ja shure, du habe mucho geld? dang, my german is awful.....
Got a 1995 C200, W202 Mercedes, standard transmission, and it is built like a tank, no noises, no engine problems, and yes it was built in Germany.
I had a ‘94 E-420. It was a great car until 2017. The electrical system just deteriorated. They tell me their wires are “ biodegradable.” At about 25 years of age, the wires start breaking down. The mechanical engine and auto transmission is still strong. I kept it about 12 years. It was used when I bought it. The biggest inconvenience I had was I had to take it to a Mercedes mechanic to diagnose problems because the equipment is expensive
Hi, simple replace the wiring harness. Yes it can cost you couple of hundreds of Euros but fully worth it! My '93 280TE had the same problem, changed the whole part and ready to go for many years.
Note to self: Ensure that E Class wagon that you want is built in Germany...
The best car repair vids on the planet!! 🤣🤣 no-nonsense no-bullshit, thumbs up to Scotty!
I honestly think that the problem here in North America isn’t that the cars are worse quality but that we expect a whole slew of worthless electronics on our cars. Overseas, they put less of this stuff on their cars (including Mercedes) and that’s often the stuff that has the problems. My mom had an E Class, she got a mechanic to map out the fuses then manually disconnect the problem electronics with a switch under the steering wheel (quite brilliant actually). The car ran another 10 years without many problems. Eventually the front end went which, in Canada, is very common after 5 years (but this car was 15 years old!). I bought an off lease C 300 last year without hesitation.
I had a W204 C class made in Germany. Now I have the W205 made in Alabama and that was my main concern when I bought it. Although my example was fully checked by multiple dealerships and even the government inspectors so that everything is well built. But next time I shall not do that and I will buy an E class because it is still built in Germany. Less rattles. Reliability so far is still good. It is a C400 2015 Biturbo w/ no air suspension. Gotta love depreciation.
After 2007 any mercedes are good except if is near new or less than 50k mi. Very dissapoint with the 2014 gl450 with only 65k simple is just a junk garbage while my 1973 450sl is always ready to enjoy the American roads!!!
Had a Toyota Auris made in Turkey ,was an endless money pit.
Renault Clio is also made in Turkey I believe and they are not bad I guess.
@@dinohermann1887 Renault of any description is bad. Will be interesting to see what UK made Toyotas are like though.
@@gravemind6536 Not true. Many happy Renault owners over here. The trick is never buy a brand new model in the first (two) years of production and that counts for all vehicles, maybe except the Japanese.
You may be right, but I think other things are involved as well. I've been a European tech for about 30 years. When Mercedes was considered the standard of the world right up to the 80s they used very simple technology. The CIS injection that they used essentially was a fuel pump driven system that didn't even need the engine computer to run. The Transmissions they used during that time were vacuum operated as well as cable and Rod. During the same time the BMWs had electronic fuel injection as well as electronically shifted Transmissions. If you were to perform a smoke test on any Mercedes engine intake system at that time you would see leaks everywhere (you would need to periodically adjust the mixture/richen to get the engine to run correctly). Well when Benz finally introduced EFI, they had to deal with everything every other manufacturer was dealing with. Benz dropped in quality at that time, meanwhile they were all made in Germany. The rust years that afflicted 1995 to around 2003 cars and trucks affected M class(Alabama) and C,E, and S class (All German made).
In Australia, half the C classes are built in Germany the other half from South Africa, however they don't list on build plate anyone because they don't want customers rejecting a new car cause it wasn't built in Germany, but you can tell by the Vin number where it's built if you know what to look for
Is this also true for BMW’s and Porsche?
Porsche built his Sports-cars all in Germany (Stuttgart-Zuffenhausen) only the 4x4 SUV'S from Porsche came from Slovakia (Easteurope).
Amrick Dhillon yes for here bmw
BMW's sold in the UK are built in the US though. But all variable valve timing BMW's need their solenoids replaced every 90000 miles (if you want it to be somewhat reliable) whether they're from Germany or the US.
BMW are built in the US, if you have the money and you really want a german car, import it straight from Germany
Its weird with BMW’s they’re built all over the place. Munich Germany, Rosslyn South Africa, Spartanburg USA to name a few. Can’t say Germans are definitively the best because some South African made cars have been unarguably better quality than their German counterparts at times and vice versa. Generally they all follow the same standards and procedures and all do a pretty good job so the only difference is the nationality of the dude that torqued down your bolts.
*stricter quality control*
I live in Europe and own a BMW made in Germany. Twelve years old, no problems. Had to change the 11 years old battery last year, as a preventative measure.
Minor correction. Lexus ES sold in U.S. are built in Kentucky. Lexus RX has been built in Canada for North American market for a very long time. Side note: Scion cars were all made in Japan.
I have a question : Avalon vs Lexus ES ?? which would you get ( in the used market : 2005-2011 )
Go with the Lexus. Drive both, you'll find the inferior ride qualities in the Avalon.