have you heard tracer replying to sombra 😭 “sometimes i feel a little sick after translocating, you would know about that tracer” “wouldnt be a problem if you disappeared forever”
00:49 Ana: "Gerard was a fool to love someone like you" Widow: "you don't know anything about him" that is literally like the only time she defends someone or breaks character differently... somewhat like she is trying to defend him or cares about him even if she literally killed him
She actually has a number of emotions. Indignation anytime anyone suggests that they were closer than she to Gerard, clearly bitter about her procedures and frightened of letting a feeling become visible in front of Moira- honestly if she wasn’t such a bitch to Sombra I suspect the hacker would adopt her the way she did Sigma.
@arandomhuman3726 i believe she has a similar attitude towards every talon member, excluding, probably, Doom cause he's the boss, and Reaper cause same marital problems. she just doesn't trust anyone now and doesn't want to care ab anyone, but Gerard
And that's important. Talon believes that her brainwashing is holding, and her emotions erased, but she clearly has them. Note the fear in her voice when Moira detected emotion. Moira is probably responsible for keeping her under, and it's probably quite painful.
@@vanspoorsveeplays357 Yeah, I suspect originally Blizzard planned to have that brainwashing not be as permanent or perfect as it seems. But we shall never know since they scrapped all the story/PVE content >.>
There's also one between Widow and Soldier about flowers on Gérard's grave. Widow: "Was the lily on Gérard's grave yours?" Soldier: "You know we were close." Widow: "Not close enough to know he preferred roses."
Sometimes the game has the characters be unnecessarily cruel in their interactions. illari says "What do you know about pain?" if she kills an enemy ramattra. like wtf?
@@naciofreire7138 I don't really think it's comparable, but her pain is within her. She blames herself for their deaths even though she shouldn't, and she can get over that. She isn't actively persecuted and hated just for existing and being born the wrong race. Either way, ramattra is not exactly unexperienced in painful events
I mean people can say bad things about widow but technically she's a victim since she was forced into that life.If she wasn't mind controlled/indoctrinated she probably wouldn't have willingly killed gerard.
@@purrcat6930no that’s wrong after killing her husband she joined them she isn’t tricking anyone but herself she doesn’t have to come to terms with what she was forced to do if she can just say she has no emotions
@@sebas_hi answer this if widow cared so much about kill then why did not seem to care about failing to kill katja volskya when sombra brought it up in front of doomfist also a interaction between her and junkerqueen she asks her how many widow have you made she says i dont keep track said in a almost depressed voice she then replys with well i guess im a head widow doesnt even seem to care to contest it if somone whom was said to claim to kill to feel alive would have said something like in youre dreams amuter
@@purrcat6930 what I was saying is that it’s not her tricking anyone but we know she’s proud of her kills considering mandata as one of her finest in a voice line you don’t need to remember everything you do of an action to enjoy it you’ve ridden roller coasters right can you tell me how many you have ridden in your entire life an exact number
Im pretty sure she knows it has to be on a case file somewhere. But even if she did Widow is still a mass murder cant really feel that bad even if she is under some sort of conditioning.
She says it about both reaper and widow mercy thinks she can cure both reyes and widow if she could run tests on them.But they aren't going to sit and let her do that
I always took that interaction between her and Tracer way differently. I always thought about how Widow only loved two things in life, obviously being her husband and ballet, but what if she wanted more than that? What if she wanted to be a mother? She already lost her husband, so she can’t have children with him, his children. Anytime I think of that interaction, my first reaction is never how much Tracer roasted her, it’s always “But if she wanted to be a mother before she lost everything?”.
ok can someone tell me if I have something wrong? from what I know widow and Gerard had a good relationship and then she got drugged and ended up killing him due to talon making her. so people(characters) are making the assumption that she was a bad wife? please correct me if something is wrong or add onto it because im a little confused. -.-"
To my knowledge, none of the good guys know that she's being brainwashed by Talon. (One of the reasons why she's blue is due to Moira's experiments on her to make her the way she is.) And from my guess she's like Angel Dust from Hazbin Hotel. He didn't choose to be a Gay Porn Star, he NEEDS to be that just so he can survive. Much like him, Amelie is likely not choosing to be this way out of pleasure, but more likely, out of fear. Yes, in the first cinematics, it looked like she was completely gone, but overtime, it seems like there's hope. Hope for the real Amelie Lacroix to return.
Oh my gosh I just thought of something😱…what if Emily Lacroix was pregnant when talon took her and experimented on her. That caused her to loose the baby and she secretly blamed her husband for making her a target and that tiny bit of resentment activated the sleeper agent experiment which terned her into widowmaker
i have no clue of overwatch lore but from this alone i can deduce that she purposefully wants moira to remove her feelings so she can stop feeling the pain from whatever happened to gerard similar to a character im writing
Widowmaker or Amélie was one married to a man named Gérard Lacroix who was an overwatch agent. After numerous failed attempts to get Gérard, she got kidnapped by Talon and brainwashed. After she was rescued by Overwatch, her programming kicked in and she murdered her husband. She disappeared and Overwatch thought she got kidnapped again and her husband was murdered by someone else. Later down the line, Widow and Ana had a face off. Ana could have eliminated her but hesitated when she realized that Widowmaker was really Amélie Lacroix. Widow shot Ana in the eye which is why Ana only has one eye and a grudge against widow. Moira also experiments or experimented on Widow to make her emotionless but the game shows that she still has feelings even though she wouldn't admit that. She visits her husband's grave and she remembers things that he liked.
Lacroix was kidnapped, experimented on and brainwashed, essentially reprogrammed to assassinate her husband for Talon's benefit. Moira's work ruined her, she was just a normal woman in love who was forced into a life she never wanted, something which she believes she can never come back from. It's wild that some folks can't see past the surface.
@@_beefster1 You wrote an entire paragraph about the past, present is what matters. A deadly weapon must be eradicated before somebody else get use of it, could be overwatch, Vishkar, why not? A sad decision, but necessary.
“Who’d trust you with a baby?” One of the few times I’ve heard Tracer be savage 😭😭
Widow maker doesn’t have feelings obliviously and was going to shoot a kid in the trailer that when he use the Doomfist gauntlet on her
have you heard tracer replying to sombra 😭
“sometimes i feel a little sick after translocating, you would know about that tracer”
“wouldnt be a problem if you disappeared forever”
It bites harder knowing she was brainwashed to kill her husband.
00:49 Ana: "Gerard was a fool to love someone like you"
Widow: "you don't know anything about him"
that is literally like the only time she defends someone or breaks character differently... somewhat like she is trying to defend him or cares about him even if she literally killed him
She even has a chance to say his name when resurrected.
yeah that voice line hit hard asf ngl
She actually has a number of emotions. Indignation anytime anyone suggests that they were closer than she to Gerard, clearly bitter about her procedures and frightened of letting a feeling become visible in front of Moira- honestly if she wasn’t such a bitch to Sombra I suspect the hacker would adopt her the way she did Sigma.
Sombra is incredibly empathetic it appears, especially to elders. She’s even shown trying to be kind to Widow, if only Widow was kind back lol
@@wyattaesadly the brainwashing made her meaner :(
@arandomhuman3726 i believe she has a similar attitude towards every talon member, excluding, probably, Doom cause he's the boss, and Reaper cause same marital problems. she just doesn't trust anyone now and doesn't want to care ab anyone, but Gerard
And that's important. Talon believes that her brainwashing is holding, and her emotions erased, but she clearly has them.
Note the fear in her voice when Moira detected emotion. Moira is probably responsible for keeping her under, and it's probably quite painful.
@@vanspoorsveeplays357 Yeah, I suspect originally Blizzard planned to have that brainwashing not be as permanent or perfect as it seems. But we shall never know since they scrapped all the story/PVE content >.>
There's also one between Widow and Soldier about flowers on Gérard's grave.
Widow: "Was the lily on Gérard's grave yours?"
Soldier: "You know we were close."
Widow: "Not close enough to know he preferred roses."
this is the only sombra i won’t flame in all chat
Why soldier and Ana are so brutal with Widow about the fact that they "warn" Gerard about her??? She was totally normal before getting brainswashed.
Sometimes the game has the characters be unnecessarily cruel in their interactions. illari says "What do you know about pain?" if she kills an enemy ramattra. like wtf?
Probably was warning Gerard about using her as a way to kill him, not her in general.
@@clearfruit7901To be fair,she had it really really bad,even more than him.
She's left with nothing and still remained in the light,unlike him.
@@naciofreire7138 I don't really think it's comparable, but her pain is within her. She blames herself for their deaths even though she shouldn't, and she can get over that. She isn't actively persecuted and hated just for existing and being born the wrong race.
Either way, ramattra is not exactly unexperienced in painful events
I know right? What happened?
I mean people can say bad things about widow but technically she's a victim since she was forced into that life.If she wasn't mind controlled/indoctrinated she probably wouldn't have willingly killed gerard.
She isnt really working with them anymore she is faking and moira knows it she fooling the others but moira is on to her
@@purrcat6930no that’s wrong after killing her husband she joined them she isn’t tricking anyone but herself she doesn’t have to come to terms with what she was forced to do if she can just say she has no emotions
@@sebas_hi answer this if widow cared so much about kill then why did not seem to care about failing to kill katja volskya when sombra brought it up in front of doomfist also a interaction between her and junkerqueen she asks her how many widow have you made she says i dont keep track said in a almost depressed voice she then replys with well i guess im a head widow doesnt even seem to care to contest it if somone whom was said to claim to kill to feel alive would have said something like in youre dreams amuter
@@purrcat6930 what I was saying is that it’s not her tricking anyone but we know she’s proud of her kills considering mandata as one of her finest in a voice line you don’t need to remember everything you do of an action to enjoy it you’ve ridden roller coasters right can you tell me how many you have ridden in your entire life an exact number
The saddest thing would be her getting out her brainwashing and having her emotions back . Cries intensifies
widowmaker’s backstory is so intensely heartbreaking
At the 0:47 mark, Tracer almost sounds like Junker Queen.
Fr lmao
Tf2 Spy forgot the Australian accent when disguising as sniper
" no . never " mmm .. spoke too fast .
That's just the OW hero with the best story. She is so complete
her being without emotions makes her emotional...
no one’s saying abt the end “a single death can change everything”
At least you noticed
Glad someone else did because literally a single death (her husband which she was mind-controlled into killing) in fact changed everything about her
She also killed i think zens brother which probably cause alot of war double meaning perhaps?
I really wish at some point someone like Tracer learns the truth about Widow's past. About being brainwashed
Im pretty sure she knows it has to be on a case file somewhere. But even if she did Widow is still a mass murder cant really feel that bad even if she is under some sort of conditioning.
You can't make me feel sympathy towards her lol
Why does everyone keep forgetting about the Mercy line about widow
She says it about both reaper and widow mercy thinks she can cure both reyes and widow if she could run tests on them.But they aren't going to sit and let her do that
One of these days she's going to find out why she's like this. & I can guarantee she'll burn down every each of Talon.
i hate how misunderstood she and moira are
I always took that interaction between her and Tracer way differently. I always thought about how Widow only loved two things in life, obviously being her husband and ballet, but what if she wanted more than that? What if she wanted to be a mother? She already lost her husband, so she can’t have children with him, his children. Anytime I think of that interaction, my first reaction is never how much Tracer roasted her, it’s always “But if she wanted to be a mother before she lost everything?”.
0:52 for me, I was such a fool for liking someone like Sophia at my high school once, she broke my heart & she is my ex girlfriend now…
ok can someone tell me if I have something wrong? from what I know widow and Gerard had a good relationship and then she got drugged and ended up killing him due to talon making her. so people(characters) are making the assumption that she was a bad wife? please correct me if something is wrong or add onto it because im a little confused. -.-"
Because they don't know she was mind controlled to do that they think she willingly did it
To my knowledge, none of the good guys know that she's being brainwashed by Talon. (One of the reasons why she's blue is due to Moira's experiments on her to make her the way she is.)
And from my guess she's like Angel Dust from Hazbin Hotel. He didn't choose to be a Gay Porn Star, he NEEDS to be that just so he can survive.
Much like him, Amelie is likely not choosing to be this way out of pleasure, but more likely, out of fear.
Yes, in the first cinematics, it looked like she was completely gone, but overtime, it seems like there's hope.
Hope for the real Amelie Lacroix to return.
Oh my gosh I just thought of something😱…what if Emily Lacroix was pregnant when talon took her and experimented on her.
That caused her to loose the baby and she secretly blamed her husband for making her a target and that tiny bit of resentment activated the sleeper agent experiment which terned her into widowmaker
No
Interesting…
Amelie*
i have no clue of overwatch lore
but from this alone i can deduce that she purposefully wants moira to remove her feelings so she can stop feeling the pain from whatever happened to gerard
similar to a character im writing
None of these are sad at all. Theyre just standard Widowmaker quotes
can some1 explain?
Widowmaker or Amélie was one married to a man named Gérard Lacroix who was an overwatch agent. After numerous failed attempts to get Gérard, she got kidnapped by Talon and brainwashed. After she was rescued by Overwatch, her programming kicked in and she murdered her husband. She disappeared and Overwatch thought she got kidnapped again and her husband was murdered by someone else.
Later down the line, Widow and Ana had a face off. Ana could have eliminated her but hesitated when she realized that Widowmaker was really Amélie Lacroix. Widow shot Ana in the eye which is why Ana only has one eye and a grudge against widow. Moira also experiments or experimented on Widow to make her emotionless but the game shows that she still has feelings even though she wouldn't admit that. She visits her husband's grave and she remembers things that he liked.
ty ♥@@StephDLegend
SoNg??
thats corny
Well... She did things to deserve that, or now are you telling me to empathize with a cold blooded killer?
Cmmon... get outta here
I mean it's intended to be tragic. She didn't kill because she wanted to, she was brainwashed.
Lacroix was kidnapped, experimented on and brainwashed, essentially reprogrammed to assassinate her husband for Talon's benefit. Moira's work ruined her, she was just a normal woman in love who was forced into a life she never wanted, something which she believes she can never come back from. It's wild that some folks can't see past the surface.
@@_beefster1 You wrote an entire paragraph about the past, present is what matters. A deadly weapon must be eradicated before somebody else get use of it, could be overwatch, Vishkar, why not?
A sad decision, but necessary.
@@bharnst69 Wack 💀
Whatever you say, bud.
@@_beefster1 simp 🐀