I am a lecturer in electrical engineering from Thailand. In recent years, I have been in contact with colleagues and students from India. They are very motivated and passionate about high tech industries. I think that India will have a bright future with a lot of young people who are willing to study difficult subjects and to work in areas where STEM education is required. You are right about the hard disk drive industry in Thailand. No significant tech transfer took place here. We just deliver manufacturing service. Regarding semiconductor design, we do have a leading fabless company specialized in HF RFID and NFC in Thailand. The company name is Silicon Craft Technology. You might want to make a video clip about this interesting company in the future. Thank you for the great contents. I am involved in a discussion on the national level regarding expansion of the semiconductor and smart electronic industries in Thailand. Your contents provide very useful information for the development plan.
@@shapethefuturetech6005 India created 42 unicorns in 2021 and china created just 21. U can see that India has an oppurtunity for u if u want to start a startup.
On a related note, the Indian government JUST recently unveiled a major scheme to develop new fab units and a manufacturing ecosystem. As an Indian student looking forward to working in this field, this is exciting stuff!
What is your opinion on the amount of money allocated to this task? It seems to me the Indian government's budget is less than the cost of setting up just one fab, but they are claiming they will set up many fabs and educational institutions with that money.
Indian institutes of technology produces vast numbers of candidates to top graduate schools in the US like Stanford, Berkeley, MIT, Georgia Tech, and so on. Thus, Indian engineering students are just going to the most competitive and lucrative schools which are presently in the US, not India. If India wants to retain the talent, it will need schools which offers equivalent curriculum as the best in the US.
@@arjunarun9147 No we don't buddy. A lot of children remain out of school. Then there is corruption, like teachers taking government salaries but not teaching. There are many problems with our education system, what you are talking about is just the curriculum which too has problems. For example, corporations like Infosys retrain fresh engineering talent for 6 months, they have to do this because even college education is found lacking.
@@jaisalsanghvi you might have heard that knowledge is free than why are you complaining about reforms? buy the books and start self study.. what you need is to ask questions and do some practicals... that's all...
@@sky_mec Pursuing knowledge for the sake of it is well and good but name one advanced knowledge economy that is not built on the backs of school & university certified professionals. A good national education policy cannot be replaced with nonsense like "knowledge is free - go buy a book".
@@arjunarun9147 I don't know what you're smoking but our education system is obsolete. Among the subjects related to science and technology, tell me what % of school/college knowledge is still being useful to you to this day ? And what % of knowledge you're actually using on day to day basis were taught in colleges ? Don't even get me started on subjects like History and Politics, it's filled with distortions and outright lies.
You say that your mom says you would be good to fall asleep to-I’m reminded of one of my absolute favorite classes in college (number theory), where I loved the material, taught by a great and engaging professor, and passed out in class several times. You cover interesting topics with a smooth and relaxed delivery, perfect to unwind to, so consider it a compliment 😎
That’s funny. I always fell asleep in computer oriented mathematics (introduction to numerical analysis). Friday 2pm, summer semester and a calm monotone voice did wonders.
AMD and Qualcomm has more number of jobs openings in India next only to USA. The talent is there. Today's TSMC is possible because of Taiwanese Engineers who were in working in 1990's silicon valley were lured to go back home and work for TSMC. Recently Indian government announced $10 billion in incentives for any company who wants to set up a fab. Indian government is now more serious about hardware than software. This decade if Indian government focus on electronic manufacturing, it would bode well for country's tech sector.
@@ArpanMukhopadhyay93 Indian economy is doing badly??. But indicators suggest otherwise, exports are all time high, upi transaction data, power generation data, manufacturing and consumption PMI are doing well, investments are all times high even nibri a measurement of buisness activity has constantly remained above 100. Just because you are living in a fools paradise doesn't change facts 😂😂😂
@Sumeet tanwar bruh I'm Indian and i don't agree with that guys but u also should not live in a denial our country's economy is growing no doubt but it is growing just because of some big companies, and our per capita income is lower then south africa and Bangladesh , and now don't compare us by Pakistan i have seen many dumb bhkts comparing us with undeveloped
@@kamikaze7707 Man you're ignorant. In 2014 GDP was around 1.6 Trillion dollars, now it's 2.8 Trillion dollars almost. It's a massive increase within only 7 years. We forgot to follow the same pace in last 7 decades. It's not just suddenly popped up. Even Bangladesh toppled in year 2020 cause of 23% GDP contraction of 2020 due to Covid. It will again come back within 1-2 years. Be assured.
In the educational weakness section, i completely agree with the point of top institutes offering high class education but far more institutes are significantly below par in terms of their education and they are responsible for teaching most of the engineers in the country. The ratio of good teaching institutes is relatively low compared to other countries and this needs to be addressed.
Problem is attitude of those managing IT institutes. Their education methods suppresses any passion. In place of groomin inquisite mind ,their only goal is to get placements. You can't expect good quality engineers with such mindset. I am from IT too. So I have gone through. How the education system crunches all hopes and turns us into idiots . Once you start working a little bit of flare comes back in those who want better in their lives. But mostly it's useless
With the help of Indian Government, Two Private Indian Conglomerates, Tata Group and Vedanta Group, are going to invest in Semiconductor fabs in India. India is in government-level talks with Taiwan to help us get the fabs faster. Hopefully, This time around, India should get it.
One aspect of multi-national design is a continuous (24 hour) design cycle. Ideally designers grouped at 120 degrees longitude allows this for 8 hour workdays; USA, Europe, India. Keeps the $M CAD tools from idling. The CAD vendors sometimes prohibit this with geography-locked licensing. If you read the fine print, the license radius may be only a few hundred miles.
Most CAD vendors would make you buy a PLM extension if you want to use floating licenses across different locations and share files. Good for keeping everything together and updated, but not cheap.
@@manofsan there are several open source tools for chip design. They just don’t compare in terms of scalability, speed, and features. There is a lot of tradecraft locked up in these tools.
@@ralphrau That Chaiwala is offering billions of dollars of subsidies and other incentives for bringing Semiconductor industry to India whereas the so called elite and BigC graduates werent able to bring even a PCB manufacturing plant to India. So shut up and return to Monke.
@RISE & SHINE thats the way democracy works. Ppl take eg of small states. I am like dude running an algo on 20MB data dosent prove anything. Run it on 20TB and tell me. If practicality wasnt an issue all research paper claims would be running in industries
@RISE & SHINE same as a kid i used to label those who question the constitution our freedom struggle our "heros" as non desriable as conspiracy theorists and radical guyz. Later on i read socrates a bit of arthashasthra , the wealth of nations and came to realize we have successfully aped the west , a rip off . Truth hurts, so ppl look the other way. But this system isnt sustainable. Political parties are simply fighting each other. This will never improve. We dont have a 100 year outlook. At least. Funny thing is that the situation isnt that bad either for a revolution to happen out of need. Lets see where things go
Surprisingly well researched video, as always. One correction though, the college you want to mention at 1:27 is BITS Pilani (Birla Institute of Technology and Sceince Pilani). It was founded by one of the 3 largest Indian conglomerates, Birla Family and is the alma mater of founders of companies such as SanDisk, Hotmail and Postman, to name a few.
BITS grad here. Doing well for myself (became multimillionaire by age 30 in the states) but still shudder at the thought of doing a hardware startup in India
yeah, it have become too quite that i need to max out the volume knob on my speaker manually on every new video. then after that i need to lower it back for other yt video....lol
Me, an electronic engineer had to leave india in frustration for masters cuz no good uni easily obtained not were there any jobs. The recent investment is lucrative, let's see what comes of it but it is too late for me already.
Govt of India has set aside $ 10 billion incentive scheme for semi conductor industry. Covering the entire gamut from design, testing, fabrication , integration. I think the scheme is to encourage experienced engineers in semiconductor industry who are with multinational foreign companies to walk out from there and start there own companies. There are some structural and infrastructure issues but tell me which country is perfect. I am hopeful that India's second attempt would be successful.By the way great video dude 👍🏽
If the goal is to establish home grown semiconductor manufacturing company there's no need to woo foreign companies. India can just start the company rn using that money.
@@rodrozil6544 I agree. However India is more interested in manufacturing bigger nodes used in Auto, Aerospace & Defence. Intel already signed an agreement to setup India's first fab in Karnataka.
Since the US, Euro, East-North Asia are all noticed the importance of the independence and advancement in semi industry, and all of them are planning to increase the investment, I don't think other countries have lots of chance to succeed in this area.
The allure of fast cash versus putting in risk capital to develop products. I work with Indian circuit designers and they come in a spectrum in quality. But boy do they charge a hefty fee and the margins are great
@@ArpanMukhopadhyay93 I won't say they're lazy though. It takes a lot of risk-taking to put down capital and only see returns many years down the road. Compare that with outsourcing work that only requires human resources but gives returns are immediate (albeit lower)
@@MarkWongUSA the mentality and risk appetite is just missing. And in a way it's lazy. Such huge corporations with good margins can put 5-10% towards RnD. Even if it fails completely, the company won't shut down. And if they win, they can rake in even higher profits. But nobody sees it that way.
International trade networks and proximity matter here as well. As an English speaking country, it was easier for India to participate in the design part of the semiconductor industry, which is concentrated in the US and UK. India's connections to the East Asian champions have taken to time to develop, and these will be an important factor in the growth of semiconductor manufacturing there.
@@s.k634 He didn't say India is more developed. He said that in the context of semiconductor design. So, either your comprehension skills are bad or you are just making noise. And toilets have been built and sanitation coverage has reached more than 90% now. So, unless you want to take a leak, STFU..
13:45 whoa there even when the govt tries to inculcate enterpreneurial spirit(however you define it). Indian civil society is pathalogically against capital in any form. strikes and lockouts are a part and parcel of our country. I blame the elements in the Independence movement that drove us down this path and the later on the political masters that reinforced and perpetuated the kind of idealistic stupidity that still permeates every nook and crany of the country's governance and economic structures.
Our entrepreneur spirit is only present in a service sector in technology field hardly anyone might be there with an in-depth knowledge along with a risk appetite and long term planning to land on unconventional business field.
It is exactly those "elements in the Independence movement" who set up IIT/IISc/IIM/AIMS which today are the bedrock of our forward march. It is exactly those people who brought IT/supercomputers and telecom industry to our country. And you talk as if they havent done anything. And the current crop of whatsapp graduates use those institutes to run projects like extracting gold from cow urine or use cow dung to cure cancer. If India's youth are whatsapp graduates like you then our country's future is bleak !!!
@@yash_kambli Indian business is dominated by traditional baniyas. They mostly believe in trading and not engineering since the risk is relatively less. They kept selling the same Ambassadors and Padminis even if nobody stopped them from building better and different models. Hence talented people flew to other countries where their out of the box ideas were given value. This attitude has permeated thru out the Indian psyche and has hurt us a lot. Even in the west, emigrated Indians mostly stick to providing services and are not creators of original products except as employees under an American innovator/risk taker. EDIT : And this darpook mentality is then blamed on Gandhi/Nehru by Indian right wingers when it is exactly these people who started and enterprise called India in 1947 and succeeded very well.
@@prashanthb6521 yes but i think those communities didn't do businesses bcoz they are willing so but simply due to they were bounded by tradition or may be lack of education restricted them to apply for government jobs. Apart from that hardly anyone had technical knowledge back then let alone 88% indians were illiterate at the time of independence. But now time has been changed still we are doing same thing, we need to move on and betting on innovations to uplift our life and so does nation.
M A, I have been studying India for some time now, and do suspect that there is truth in what you say. But, with my still limited knowledge, I have not yet understood what elements of their citizenry provide the seeding ground and source of those who seek politics as a career. Could it have something to do with the now defunct caste system, religious influence, or male-dominated society? Really would like your opinion.
@@gilbertfranklin1537 you have a pre conceived notion about India that's heavily misinformed as it seems by your comment, 1st Caste System isn't and wasn't really a system the whole Indian society would function upon, at any civilization's peak there is a hierarchally structured framework of classes that naturally form inorder to sustain as a society. What Westerners called Caste system was no less than anything but a kind of hierarchal class division that has existed in nearly every major civilization from Rome to Egypt to China to Mesopotamia and Greece, what was peculiar about it was that there were different races and ethnicities that would continue upon one profession for lineages without acquiring skills of other professions and making any matrimonial relations with races engaged in other occupations, it was heavily endogamous, but this custom was limited to people of the so called lower castes in some areas of the country not the Majoritarian upper castes, people with occupations involving killing and selling of animals like Fishermen, Hunters, Leather workers and Liquor Sellers were considered "impure" and were ousted off the society, but it didn't really have any effect upon the economy of the Indian subcontinent at all as the taxes have been collected from the people that didn't belong to the lower castes, yet India had one of the highest gdp rates back in Classical and Mediaeval period, castes are nothing but races, the Indo Aryans came and founded the cities 5000 to 3000 years ago, forest dwelling Austroasiactic people migrated into the cities bringing with them non Aryan culture that was uncivilized or impure to the Indo Aryans hence groups from Indo Aryans formed the upper castes and Austroasiactic groups formed the lower castes. 2nd religion and male dominance do nothing but actually add to the revenue generation of the states contrary to popular beliefs, Indian Temples have wealth that would rival a rich developing nation's, the religious ceremonies and tourism generates buisness opportunities for people while also giving rise to a little bit factionism among different religious groups sometimes resulting in tremendous damages to public properties but that's not really why Indian economy would stoop down, it would rather elevate. Coming to your answer, it's really the very socialist nature of Indian administrative structure and the whole system in general introduced by our founding fathers in 1947 who were under soviet influence that breeds VIP culture as we call it in India where people who manage to sway away the public opinion by promising dumbest most solution that sound rhetorical, provocative and pleasing to a common middle class Indian's daily problems sits in bureaucracy, there is real chill once you've won the election and you have access to all the money you can steal that central government allots for infrastructure development and all, there are practically no market friendly laws and interest rates are high as hell, there is general lack of competative and entrepreneurship culture, everyone wants to have a Government Job, and want things for free, till the extent that politicians bribe the public by donating laptops and smartphones inorder to sway the public opinion in their favour. That is the reason why we have this miserable condition
The real reason India loves Russia is not due to arms sales but the aid Russia gave us in industrialization. The West tried to keep Indian held down as a plantation [which the Brits had reduced India into] and only gave development aid after they feared India would join the Soviet Camp. The first Indian Institute of Technology at Kharagpur was built with Soviet Aid in 1951 as was India's first major steel plant at Bhilai 1953. The British looted [the word loot is Hindi for plunder] India (which had been the world's largest and richest economy in the 18th Century with up to 27% of global GDP) of c. $45 Trillion [see Prof. Jason Hickel's article online "How Britain Stole $45 Trillion from India] which financed the Industrial Revolution and much other development in Britain. They also killed tens of millions of India's poorest by exporting India's foodgrains for British Food Security and profit creating dozens of famines. Then James Mill [who became 2nd in command of the East India Co.] created the myth that India was a land of Eternal Poverty and Famine to cover up the Crimes Against Humanity of his colleagues. India was also deindustrialized with all manufacturing activities suppressed to make India a Captive Market and Plantation for Britain's new industrial economy. Not only were cheaper and superior Indian handloom cottons [which had dominated the world market] eliminated so that Manchester could rise, India had produced the world's best steel (Wootz) as English experts confirmed in the 1790s. Britain copied its techniques whilst suppressing modern steel production in India. The oldest seaworthy ship in the Royal Navy, HMS Trincomalee, was built by an Indain company in Bombay in 1817 but shipbuilding in India was soon afterwards suppressed. Stanford Prof Priya Satia tells in her 2018 book how colonial Brits and French observers stated that Mughal/Maratha India was producing cannon and muskets as good as the best in Europe. The British suppressed arms manufacturing not only to stop resistance but to prevent Industrial Development for which they saw arms production as the key. Shashi Tharoor tells us that 19th Century Indian engineers showed that they could design and build locomotives, but of course the British did not allow this. Even in the 1939-45 War the Brits stopped US plans to build aircraft in India to fight Japan as they did not want a postwar Independent India to compete.
Pls make a video on the new 10 billion dollar incentive program announced by the Government of India to encourage semiconductor fab companies to establish their fabs in India
Thankfully the business landscape in India is slowly changing from the old culture of "money lender" mindset to a more corporate mindset. The older generation of business men are now dying out although several of them have been pioneers (ratan Tata, ajiz premji) , but they are few and far between, majority still have a very traditional outlook of minimum risk, high profit, stuck in a circle of mediocrity
@@AR-dp1kj I mean a words from semiconductor firms. They only show interest but that doesn't mean anything. It's still 50/50. I want to hear TSMC or UMC investment plan in india first. TSMC just recently invested huge sum of money in US and Japan. I don't think new foundry investment will come in short period of time before their new plants are complete.
It's probably a mistake for any government to aim to place its nation's feet where other nations have already trod. Tech advancement is accelerating; disruptions are hitting industry at an accelerated pace. Duplicating current methods is a way to fall behind. It takes years to create a chip fab - by which time the leaders, with better IP and more experienced engineers, have moved the goal posts. For chip design, AI is probably the next big disruption. AI is already poking its proverbial camel's nose into the tent. Soon enough, there won't be room for anything else. Google is secretive about its IP, but we know they're an AI powerhouse and that they are designing their own chips to gain competitive advantages against their rivals. Apple is undoubtedly using AI extensively to speed up chip development. Perhaps the most frightening of the bunch is Tesla, which has allowed the public a glimpse of their Dojo architecture. Tesla has designed some astonishing chips - and they are probably (almost certainly) using AI to accelerate chip design. But Dojo is a particularly significant architecture: it's for neural net processing. In other words, Tesla is in a position to bootstrap. Use AI to make the next generation AI chip architecture, which makes the next, and so on. India, Malaysia, China, heck, *no* country can catch the Silicon Valley firehose of innovation with just some seed investments and some graduates. They don't have the IP to keep up. The chip industry is fundamentally different from almost any older industry. Take cars. It was quite feasible for a country that was not a major player in auto manufacturing to plan a campaign to change that. One by one, a number of countries have successfully thrown their hats in the ring and grabbed market share. Incumbents' moats weren't large enough to keep them out. But that era is probably ending. As cars become smarter, IP becomes more important. If, for example, Chinese companies can make dumb cars you have to drive, and Tesla can make cars that are smart enough to drive themselves and obey commands - robots, essentially - Tesla's IP becomes a moat that is insurmountable at the price points Tesla chooses for its products. And with Tesla's development cycle accelerating, there will be no catching them from a standing start. They're moving too fast. If I were advising nations who want to improve their position with respect to tech, I would suggest investing heavily in basic research and in creating a smooth developmental path for promising new tech. As tech accelerates, IP ownership and first-mover advantages will become pretty darned important. It's no good wishing to get to where incumbents already are; aim for where they haven't yet gotten.
@@libshastra Correct. My point is that where India, or for that matter any nation looking to bolster its tech prowess, can most readily obtain advantages not from imitation but from original research and fresh ideas. If I did not believe India could innovate, I would not make this suggestion.
Your insights are too naive and completely out of some Netflix movie imaginations. Policies of a country require insights into multidimensions and hence require the coming together of people from various backgrounds which includes foreight into possible conflicts, geopolitics, international trade and trends, education, health needs, home politics, economic state, demographics and labour distribution, urbanisation and migration accomodation capacity of cities and projections into future, amd a bunch of things you havent even thought about. So it is better that you don't advise your myopic views. While I agree that research should be prioritised, the reasons you mention are too myopoc and shortsighted. Funding for reaearch comes from current state of economy. Eating a bunch of vitamins without fullfiling energy requirements wont heal a diseased body. There are far acapable people in tje commitee who make these policies and a lot many think tanks are involved to guide the government - exactly the reason why a single person lile you shouldn't be advising and risking the future of a country based on his or her personal oponions. If youbhad studied how China, Taiwan, Singapore, Japan, etc rose , you would have made better arguments. Also, you seem to have no knowledge on evolution of ecosystems. Research and its funding needs sustainable and sustained input - both intellectual and economic. Without setting up established industries which have large demands in the world, sustaining research for long run is impossible. A lot of research in developed countries is funded by home grown industries which initially might have started by producing a hot in demand product that initially did not require research. But maybe you are too young and have not have time to see the world - and hence rightfully not in a position to advise your opinions but on youtube comments. But keep trying, its good to keep thr zeal, maybe someday you will be knowlwdgeable enough but hopefully you still have the zeal to help the country when you are capable instead of fleeing it and enjoying yourself in the west.
@@浦和-f5y It is true. ISMC ( Tower semiconductor of Israel acquired by Intel) has signed an MOU to establish a 65nm semiconductor fab in Karnataka, home to Bangalore, India's IT capital.
India highly need to develop micro chip industries to compeet with China's industries in this feald. Now चीन has large market around the world, but India highly need to Compeet with China's multi million dollar market around the world in this feald. 🙏😎🙏.
Indian govt will loose tons of money on this semiconductor adventure. Ask the Singapore and Malaysian govt. Singapore invested billions in Chartered Semicon. After a decade, it sold it to Global Foundries. Chartered Semi never made a profit. Same story with the Malaysian venture. But in this case, no one wants to buy it.
India thinking that it will be handed cutting edge chip design and fabrication by the West is a pipe dream .America ,Taiwan will work to keep India at least 10 years behind so that they can build depency . Again ,India has no equivalent of Hisilicon and Alibaba's T-Head on the design part .
@@divyanshugoyal9818 15 billion over 10 years is nothing plus it's just displays and very ancient chips. India needs to invest at least 1 trillion dollars over the next 10 years of it wants its presence in semiconductors felt.
Intel is planning to open in its fab in 🇮🇳😁 hope all goes well !! And we r able to set up a good scratch silicon to ic semiconductors ecosystem for real ...
nice and informative video but its still incomplete because it doesnt cover the impact that indian govt latest PLI scheme of 10B USD for chip manufacturers, might have on this industry...because in that, many domestic players like Tata are also investing...and that can give a boost to indian IP and R&D! i think you shud do a follow-up on this video...as far as the education sector is concerned...i think the problem india has is that of too many ppl trying to get into engineering despite not caring about the profession, but to get a job at campus recruitment. thus motivations might hurt skills as well in real world. also there is a stark contrast...there are either very great or very avg colleges...and the focus on schooling is mostly about mark scoring...with the new educationpolicy of indian govt , hopefully some of that will be solved...mnat things are in play...shud make a follow-up
It takes time for things to materialize. He is not living in India following the headlines. Once the scheme sets up plants and release numbers, I'm sure you'll find videos.
While ROI and rate of return are important factors for capital investors, a greater concern is stability and trust of the legal and judicial framework upon which businesses are established. Since India's judicial system was formed from the basis of the British legal system, its familiarity is what draws capital investment and trust to the country. The same cannot be said for China where the judicial system is heavily influenced by opaque political factors both internal and external and there is little trust that political factors would not interfere. This risk is much reduced in India.
In theory yes. But in practice not. People's behaviors also matter. Their habits. Modernize India and make high tech easily available for everyone to access.
@@yohaneschristianp this is a very condescending and terrible take. People's attitude have little to do with structural issues within India's government and Judiciary. Often they are held hostage by the Judiciary even if the government has the right intention of improving governance.
@SURIYA SILVERLANCE India runs big companies for lsi design, 3d modelling for off shore platforms. Each office employs more than thousand engineers. Intel and amd are some of their clients. Regards
@SURIYA SILVERLANCE The so called father of pentium was an Indian from India. The design was started those days of pentium chip. All such design companies operate on low profile as there are not many such customers requiring the design.I think you mistake fabrication to design. Don't call people fools. You have a long way to in your life.Regards.
@SURIYA SILVERLANCE You started to talk rubbish by confusing creating a software for designing and creating the design with the software. I never said India is making software for designing chips. I said the designs are made in India for many chip manufacturers. Same goes to 3D modelling. These software used to create designs are loaned to companies that design them. Some cost few hundred thousand dollars to purchase per license. I believe you are not from such a field and trying to establish that you are right. The software for engineering (automation, drafting), pharma (hospital management), electronic equipment (Instruments and apparatus) are made in India and elsewhere.But these do not bring much revenue and require small design offices. Regards.
@SURIYA SILVERLANCE You are like the school boy who carry a science magazine and boast to other students. Sorry. You will not understand anything now but keep changing what you are saying every time and adding non relevant topic.Please read more magazines to make you sound better and then answer one time properly. If you think you can't argue, good or bad, do not reply. Regards.
@SURIYA SILVERLANCE Now you change your topic again and You need a mental asylum. Didn't you read I said these are low profile companies? Read more magazines and vomit to the school boys on Monday. Regards
Great video! No one doubts the ability of China, India, and even less Taiwan to produce semiconductors. But for a few years everyone will depend, for the most efficient chips, ASML machines. Best,
Indian government reluctant to invest in Indian talent and industry is what leads to brain drain....the Indian government is happy as long these brilliant people sent money from abroad to India...but Indian government this narrow minded has cost it to be left behind china,korea Singapore and other south east asian countries 😭🙏
I enjoy your videos! But sometimes there are gaffes. At 8:10 you have used the image of Rajastan Jaypur University's Sanskrit Department! Of course the VHP will tell you that Indian semiconductors were already there 50,000 years ago. It's in the Vedas!
😂😂😂 How dare you underestimate the power of India's whatsapp graduates ! They will prove themselves by fabbing a 5Ghz processor using cowdung, keep watching !!!
Your video is amazing ... but I would request you to use nice video clips to portray India rather than using any cheap clips showing India's population crap and cheap ... I know the international media has always shown India in such bad lights for decades but TH-camrs like you can make a difference ... it's time for showing India's richness that this country really deserves. I'm talking about the clip displayed @ 7:47
We can't even built a road / high way properly and give MAINTENANCE properly And now semi fabs ???? Indian politician to hama ra kat hi rahi he Ab company ka vi kat rahi hay 🤣 Anyway i am not gona believe Even if thay starts project it will not going to complete in atleast before 30 years 🤣🤣
You should stop watching anime & start preparing for your technical studies. You cannot waste your time with anime & blabber about infrastructure projects being delayed.
It's challenge for India to prove himself in the silicon chip industry.... It's very tough to beat China in factors of mass production, manufacturing cost, quality and skill workers... I don't think india can challenge china in silicon market.... Taiwan, KOREA AND JAPAN ARE WORLD CLASS QUALITY THAT INDIA CAN'T MATCH I THINK!!!!
Many of Indian diaspora in Denmark who did their graduation from IISC & IIT works at ASML. India lacks fab or infrastructure so how can some educational institutes compete against an established company having the infrastructure & experience
Good video and with helpful suggestions. Hope the educators and professionals in the field study these suggestions and start implementing it. Also despite India having the population the highly skilled and trained population is dwindling. The educated areas in India are having population reduction while the uneducated and unskilled population of the North especially BiMaRU states are increasing their population. The politicians use communal, caste and language divisions instead of education, training etc to get to power. The increase in population of uneducated population seems also to be in their self interest since such population can be easily swayed into empty rhetoric of division, India is ill served by the politicians in the North who have let down the nation by their behaviors. The central govt continues to talk about self sufficient India with great visions without at the same time examining the resources needed to man these sophisticated manufacturing jobs. At this rate these visions of grandeur and development will all remain only on paper without execution unless proper attention is paid to alleviate the skills gap in the vast population areas of the North. Will the long term needs of India trump these short term objectives of the politicians to increase their power is a question that only these politicians of the North can answer and in which the Central Govt should delve into.
@@Aegon_Targaryen How many mosque were built and Shariya laws were passed by Khangress? Khangress is not best but Hindu rastra is not acceptable in current India. FO.
True, people who believes Vedas have all knowledge are now asking foreign countries to come and built cutting edge tech. Something doesn't fit right with Safforn gov and it's supporters.
Semiconductor industry is a very high cost, high tech and high skilled and technical industry which are very high barriers to entry unless they have deep pockets. Also only the top 3 companies that dominant the industry is able to make money and the bottom companies are either breaking even or losing money. India is already late for the party and I doubt they are willing to spend billions of dollars to catchup especially now its even harder to do so as they would also need to develop their local supply chain for the consumables and parts needed to support the manufacturing industry and keep their fabs running 24/7 with low shutdown rates.
we have the labour . we need the right investments from the govt and private sector which due to the automobile giants in india facing shortages are now a priority and more attractive for them to invest.
@@tanmaypanadi1414 Lets be clear here we taking about the frontend of semiconductor chip fabrication and not the backend semiconductor manufacturing which is easier to startup and kickstart.
@@albertwong1919 let the time tell there was a time when china and south korea were considered as third world countries where establishing tech industry was considered imposible but now they are the biggest manufacturers of high end chips in industry.
Lol.. I'm imagining them using lintrack.. but to be serious.. the auto design systems can never produce a product better than the coding that it was programmed with.. using more labour intensive techniques an engineer who has a broader background (and actual tallent) can create much more efficient and longer lasting designs..
Disliking all videos because of Google's censorship of the dislike count, good video content. Creators need to seriously start posting videos on other providers.
as time goes India will have its own big local start ups linked to semi conductors and electronics, most or many of the international MNC linked technology are runned by Indians .IBM , Nokia / was , Intel hardware is by India , so is Googles etc . they are 1st gen Indians India is now 3rd in unicons it will only rise , and it will also have companies in electronics and semi conductors , and defence and space so on its happening in space and defence already India also has worlds biggest diaspora and its a wealthy and highly educated one , and Indian government is the most nationalist it ever had in past 600 odd years
Good Day Sir, this is Roger from Microsoft support, there is something broken with your semiconductor design, we need you to start TeamViewer Remote Support
The semiconductor industry is extremely capital intensive and India needs a game plan, otherwise it's just dumping lakh crore rupees into the toilet. India needs to determine if it wants bleeding edge tech or mature tech and how it plans to pursue it, because India right now cannot support a leading edge fab until it solves its electricity availability & reliability problem, its clean water problem, its higher education problem. And if India wants an indigenous semiconductor industry, is the government willing to bear the billions/trillions on failed start-ups and loses until a viable company emerges, or have JV with tech transfer for mature tech and still spend billions/trillions to play catchup.
I am a lecturer in electrical engineering from Thailand. In recent years, I have been in contact with colleagues and students from India. They are very motivated and passionate about high tech industries. I think that India will have a bright future with a lot of young people who are willing to study difficult subjects and to work in areas where STEM education is required.
You are right about the hard disk drive industry in Thailand. No significant tech transfer took place here. We just deliver manufacturing service.
Regarding semiconductor design, we do have a leading fabless company specialized in HF RFID and NFC in Thailand. The company name is Silicon Craft Technology. You might want to make a video clip about this interesting company in the future. Thank you for the great contents. I am involved in a discussion on the national level regarding expansion of the semiconductor and smart electronic industries in Thailand. Your contents provide very useful information for the development plan.
Lots of talents from India can't get paid in India and finally went to the US or Euro, that's the biggest issue for India.
@@shapethefuturetech6005 this was the scene in early 2000s. I am passout of 2021 batch. If you have the skill, plenty of jobs are here in india.
@@shapethefuturetech6005 India created 42 unicorns in 2021 and china created just 21. U can see that India has an oppurtunity for u if u want to start a startup.
@@divyanshugoyal9818 there is a difference though. The unicorns in Indian were dominated by delivery services and fintech while in China it is not so.
@@rjpadbatan669 majority of the unicorns in china are service based.
On a related note, the Indian government JUST recently unveiled a major scheme to develop new fab units and a manufacturing ecosystem. As an Indian student looking forward to working in this field, this is exciting stuff!
Unfortunately farmers feel neglected there. But this is unavoidable, tech advancement is a must for future.
@@yohaneschristianp No one is neglected. India is doing great.
What is your opinion on the amount of money allocated to this task?
It seems to me the Indian government's budget is less than the cost of setting up just one fab, but they are claiming they will set up many fabs and educational institutions with that money.
@@heyyy4783 I agree that its not high amount but i guess we have to start somewhere
not enough. better nations have tried and failed.
Indian institutes of technology produces vast numbers of candidates to top graduate schools in the US like Stanford, Berkeley, MIT, Georgia Tech, and so on. Thus, Indian engineering students are just going to the most competitive and lucrative schools which are presently in the US, not India. If India wants to retain the talent, it will need schools which offers equivalent curriculum as the best in the US.
Vietnamese?
India created 42 unicorns in 2021 alone and China created just 21. Can India retain the talent? no.
@@divyanshugoyal9818 False. Stop spreading misinformation. Accept reality.
@@Emi-jh7gf It's a fact.
@@Emi-jh7gf why r u denying the truth?
Our education system needs massive reforms, it's just 4 wheels now but it needs to be a racing car.
its extremely stressful but effective. we've a good education system. a lot like china but it's very unkind...
@@arjunarun9147
No we don't buddy. A lot of children remain out of school. Then there is corruption, like teachers taking government salaries but not teaching. There are many problems with our education system, what you are talking about is just the curriculum which too has problems. For example, corporations like Infosys retrain fresh engineering talent for 6 months, they have to do this because even college education is found lacking.
@@jaisalsanghvi you might have heard that knowledge is free than why are you complaining about reforms? buy the books and start self study.. what you need is to ask questions and do some practicals... that's all...
@@sky_mec
Pursuing knowledge for the sake of it is well and good but name one advanced knowledge economy that is not built on the backs of school & university certified professionals. A good national education policy cannot be replaced with nonsense like "knowledge is free - go buy a book".
@@arjunarun9147 I don't know what you're smoking but our education system is obsolete. Among the subjects related to science and technology, tell me what % of school/college knowledge is still being useful to you to this day ?
And what % of knowledge you're actually using on day to day basis were taught in colleges ?
Don't even get me started on subjects like History and Politics, it's filled with distortions and outright lies.
Indian govt JUST this week announced multi billion dollar measures to boost the industry.
$10B to build the entire Fab ecosystem? I welcome the govt. but it feels too little too late. Well, maybe it's still better than nothing.
@@aniksamiurrahman6365 Just something to sweeten the deal. Real investment has to put in by the private players. The govt can only facilitate .
@Kikilcom 88 Vedanta has announced a 15 billion dollar fab.
Bye bye hater👎👎👎
@Kikilcom 88 r u from bhikharistaan??
@Kikilcom 88 in 15 billion dollars u can make a 5nm fab. It is alot of money.
You say that your mom says you would be good to fall asleep to-I’m reminded of one of my absolute favorite classes in college (number theory), where I loved the material, taught by a great and engaging professor, and passed out in class several times.
You cover interesting topics with a smooth and relaxed delivery, perfect to unwind to, so consider it a compliment 😎
That’s funny. I always fell asleep in computer oriented mathematics (introduction to numerical analysis). Friday 2pm, summer semester and a calm monotone voice did wonders.
I may have been able to with this video, but that popping sound at the pauses would make it hard.
AMD and Qualcomm has more number of jobs openings in India next only to USA. The talent is there. Today's TSMC is possible because of Taiwanese Engineers who were in working in 1990's silicon valley were lured to go back home and work for TSMC. Recently Indian government announced $10 billion in incentives for any company who wants to set up a fab. Indian government is now more serious about hardware than software. This decade if Indian government focus on electronic manufacturing, it would bode well for country's tech sector.
I don't know the objective of your comment here.
@@ArpanMukhopadhyay93 Indian economy is doing badly??. But indicators suggest otherwise, exports are all time high, upi transaction data, power generation data, manufacturing and consumption PMI are doing well, investments are all times high even nibri a measurement of buisness activity has constantly remained above 100. Just because you are living in a fools paradise doesn't change facts 😂😂😂
@Kikilcom 88 Which part of the video is giving you an itch bruh😂👌??
@Sumeet tanwar bruh I'm Indian and i don't agree with that guys but u also should not live in a denial our country's economy is growing no doubt but it is growing just because of some big companies, and our per capita income is lower then south africa and Bangladesh , and now don't compare us by Pakistan i have seen many dumb bhkts comparing us with undeveloped
@@kamikaze7707 Man you're ignorant. In 2014 GDP was around 1.6 Trillion dollars, now it's 2.8 Trillion dollars almost. It's a massive increase within only 7 years. We forgot to follow the same pace in last 7 decades. It's not just suddenly popped up. Even Bangladesh toppled in year 2020 cause of 23% GDP contraction of 2020 due to Covid. It will again come back within 1-2 years. Be assured.
In the educational weakness section, i completely agree with the point of top institutes offering high class education but far more institutes are significantly below par in terms of their education and they are responsible for teaching most of the engineers in the country. The ratio of good teaching institutes is relatively low compared to other countries and this needs to be addressed.
They are all garbage , from there infra to there R&D output. No innovation , only coolies
@@AM-zc9mq maybe you're not looking at all..unless you're talking about the dogshit private colleges in which case i agree
I have studied in "top institute" same problem. Sub standard pedagogy.
Problem is attitude of those managing IT institutes. Their education methods suppresses any passion. In place of groomin inquisite mind ,their only goal is to get placements.
You can't expect good quality engineers with such mindset. I am from IT too. So I have gone through. How the education system crunches all hopes and turns us into idiots . Once you start working a little bit of flare comes back in those who want better in their lives. But mostly it's useless
@@bapparawal2457 yess
With the help of Indian Government, Two Private Indian Conglomerates, Tata Group and Vedanta Group, are going to invest in Semiconductor fabs in India. India is in government-level talks with Taiwan to help us get the fabs faster. Hopefully, This time around, India should get it.
india want to steal taiwan's chip-making technology.😁
@@isleephungry You should have watched the video, where he mentioned that chip makers are more comfortable regarding their IP protection in India..
@@tushar4evr776 I speak the truth
@@isleephungry 😂nice joke one more pls
@@isleephungry
Marrying your cousin for Canadian citizenship will not benefit your country
One aspect of multi-national design is a continuous (24 hour) design cycle. Ideally designers grouped at 120 degrees longitude allows this for 8 hour workdays; USA, Europe, India. Keeps the $M CAD tools from idling.
The CAD vendors sometimes prohibit this with geography-locked licensing. If you read the fine print, the license radius may be only a few hundred miles.
Most CAD vendors would make you buy a PLM extension if you want to use floating licenses across different locations and share files. Good for keeping everything together and updated, but not cheap.
India is 3.5 hours different from Europe
Do these CAD vendors have a monopolistic lock on Intellectual Property? Why doesn't somebody invent Open Source CAD for Chip Design?
@@manofsan there are several open source tools for chip design. They just don’t compare in terms of scalability, speed, and features. There is a lot of tradecraft locked up in these tools.
So what? They can have shifts of workers in the same country, right?
Love your videos. There is really no one india who talks about semiconductor industry of India like you india.
What about monkey baat ?
@@ralphrau vedanta announced 15 billion dollars fab. Bye bye hater👎👎👎
There is a guy named Shri Ashwini Vaishnaw, who is our IT and Railway minister, go see his press conference on this topic
@@ralphrau That Chaiwala is offering billions of dollars of subsidies and other incentives for bringing Semiconductor industry to India whereas the so called elite and BigC graduates werent able to bring even a PCB manufacturing plant to India. So shut up and return to Monke.
@@trulyharsh thanku brother🙏🙏🙏
But these andhnamazis won't understand. They are gawar just like khangress😁👍
Weird how this video surfaced just around when Indian govt announced its plan for semi conductor industry.
exactly so
I was thinking the same
@RISE & SHINE not everytime. Though i am very sceptical on chip manufacturing. Immemse political will n capital is needed
@RISE & SHINE thats the way democracy works. Ppl take eg of small states. I am like dude running an algo on 20MB data dosent prove anything. Run it on 20TB and tell me. If practicality wasnt an issue all research paper claims would be running in industries
@RISE & SHINE same as a kid i used to label those who question the constitution our freedom struggle our "heros" as non desriable as conspiracy theorists and radical guyz. Later on i read socrates a bit of arthashasthra , the wealth of nations and came to realize we have successfully aped the west , a rip off . Truth hurts, so ppl look the other way. But this system isnt sustainable. Political parties are simply fighting each other. This will never improve. We dont have a 100 year outlook. At least. Funny thing is that the situation isnt that bad either for a revolution to happen out of need. Lets see where things go
Surprisingly well researched video, as always.
One correction though, the college you want to mention at 1:27 is BITS Pilani (Birla Institute of Technology and Sceince Pilani).
It was founded by one of the 3 largest Indian conglomerates, Birla Family and is the alma mater of founders of companies such as SanDisk, Hotmail and Postman, to name a few.
Students in bits are really talented but research is very lacking even in IIT and bits
BITS grad here. Doing well for myself (became multimillionaire by age 30 in the states) but still shudder at the thought of doing a hardware startup in India
@@AKumar-co7oe why?
To kya kre yhan thodi na bnayi wo companies...hmara ye h wo ...ek technology company ni h hmari world class
Could you master your videos with louder audio? They are way too quiet :-(
yeah, it have become too quite that i need to max out the volume knob on my speaker manually on every new video.
then after that i need to lower it back for other yt video....lol
You can use Volume Master (Chrome extension) to aid this in the mean time. But yes, the volume in the video is low
Could you buy headphones
Me, an electronic engineer had to leave india in frustration for masters cuz no good uni easily obtained not were there any jobs. The recent investment is lucrative, let's see what comes of it but it is too late for me already.
From where did you complete your bachelors? Can you please elaborate more on this? I'm a first year electronics engineering student
You are smart, right? Than why are you searching job? You should be the job creator not job taker.
Govt of India has set aside $ 10 billion incentive scheme for semi conductor industry. Covering the entire gamut from design, testing, fabrication , integration. I think the scheme is to encourage experienced engineers in semiconductor industry who are with multinational foreign companies to walk out from there and start there own companies. There are some structural and infrastructure issues but tell me which country is perfect. I am hopeful that India's second attempt would be successful.By the way great video dude 👍🏽
If the goal is to establish home grown semiconductor manufacturing company there's no need to woo foreign companies. India can just start the company rn using that money.
@@浦和-f5y indegenous tech is 2 decades old
It's already game over for India in fabrication. But in for fabless there is possibility.
@@rodrozil6544 I agree. However India is more interested in manufacturing bigger nodes used in Auto, Aerospace & Defence. Intel already signed an agreement to setup India's first fab in Karnataka.
Govt just launched ₹ 76,000 crore ($10 billion) scheme for setting up fabs and a full ecosystem.
Don't be overconfident
Since the US, Euro, East-North Asia are all noticed the importance of the independence and advancement in semi industry, and all of them are planning to increase the investment, I don't think other countries have lots of chance to succeed in this area.
The allure of fast cash versus putting in risk capital to develop products. I work with Indian circuit designers and they come in a spectrum in quality. But boy do they charge a hefty fee and the margins are great
Wait, 1 month ago?!
@@yohaneschristianp I'm on the Patreon early access tier
Exactly!! Indian businesses are just plain lazy. That's why startups are the only hope to change the scene
@@ArpanMukhopadhyay93 I won't say they're lazy though. It takes a lot of risk-taking to put down capital and only see returns many years down the road. Compare that with outsourcing work that only requires human resources but gives returns are immediate (albeit lower)
@@MarkWongUSA the mentality and risk appetite is just missing. And in a way it's lazy. Such huge corporations with good margins can put 5-10% towards RnD. Even if it fails completely, the company won't shut down. And if they win, they can rake in even higher profits. But nobody sees it that way.
International trade networks and proximity matter here as well. As an English speaking country, it was easier for India to participate in the design part of the semiconductor industry, which is concentrated in the US and UK. India's connections to the East Asian champions have taken to time to develop, and these will be an important factor in the growth of semiconductor manufacturing there.
If English speaking ability was a factor ,Japan ,China ,Taiwan and others would be poor countries and India and much of Africa developed .
@@s.k634 dude calm the fuck down, he never said India is more developed. Maybe your superiority complex is talking.
@@jayasuriyas2604 hey jaihind, learn to think. Build toilets before you can think of building semiconductors
@@s.k634 He didn't say India is more developed. He said that in the context of semiconductor design. So, either your comprehension skills are bad or you are just making noise. And toilets have been built and sanitation coverage has reached more than 90% now. So, unless you want to take a leak, STFU..
अंग्रेजी सीखने से तकनीक भी हासिल हो जाती है क्या?
क्या फिर जापान चीन मूर्ख देश है?
13:45 whoa there even when the govt tries to inculcate enterpreneurial spirit(however you define it). Indian civil society is pathalogically against capital in any form. strikes and lockouts are a part and parcel of our country. I blame the elements in the Independence movement that drove us down this path and the later on the political masters that reinforced and perpetuated the kind of idealistic stupidity that still permeates every nook and crany of the country's governance and economic structures.
Our entrepreneur spirit is only present in a service sector in technology field hardly anyone might be there with an in-depth knowledge along with a risk appetite and long term planning to land on unconventional business field.
True
It is exactly those "elements in the Independence movement" who set up IIT/IISc/IIM/AIMS which today are the bedrock of our forward march. It is exactly those people who brought IT/supercomputers and telecom industry to our country. And you talk as if they havent done anything. And the current crop of whatsapp graduates use those institutes to run projects like extracting gold from cow urine or use cow dung to cure cancer. If India's youth are whatsapp graduates like you then our country's future is bleak !!!
@@yash_kambli Indian business is dominated by traditional baniyas. They mostly believe in trading and not engineering since the risk is relatively less. They kept selling the same Ambassadors and Padminis even if nobody stopped them from building better and different models. Hence talented people flew to other countries where their out of the box ideas were given value. This attitude has permeated thru out the Indian psyche and has hurt us a lot.
Even in the west, emigrated Indians mostly stick to providing services and are not creators of original products except as employees under an American innovator/risk taker.
EDIT : And this darpook mentality is then blamed on Gandhi/Nehru by Indian right wingers when it is exactly these people who started and enterprise called India in 1947 and succeeded very well.
@@prashanthb6521 yes but i think those communities didn't do businesses bcoz they are willing so but simply due to they were bounded by tradition or may be lack of education restricted them to apply for government jobs. Apart from that hardly anyone had technical knowledge back then let alone 88% indians were illiterate at the time of independence. But now time has been changed still we are doing same thing, we need to move on and betting on innovations to uplift our life and so does nation.
Thanks for the coverage. You do better than most Indian TH-camrs in breaking this down. Well done.
Very interesting channel. And the semiconductor topics are very interesting.
It's most commonly called IIT Madras not IIT Chennai.
So is the case for IIT Mumbai & not iit Bombay then, but it wasn't that simple & re hard to find which is the case for what.
Ngl Madras and Bombay sounds cooler than Chennai and Mumbai.
0:52 your mom is so damn right
Look at intelligence of Indian federal and state governments. You will see why India will struggle
M A, I have been studying India for some time now, and do suspect that there is truth in what you say. But, with my still limited knowledge, I have not yet understood what elements of their citizenry provide the seeding ground and source of those who seek politics as a career. Could it have something to do with the now defunct caste system, religious influence, or male-dominated society? Really would like your opinion.
@@gilbertfranklin1537 you have a pre conceived notion about India that's heavily misinformed as it seems by your comment,
1st Caste System isn't and wasn't really a system the whole Indian society would function upon, at any civilization's peak there is a hierarchally structured framework of classes that naturally form inorder to sustain as a society. What Westerners called
Caste system was no less than anything but a kind of hierarchal class division that has existed in nearly every major civilization from Rome to Egypt to China to Mesopotamia and Greece, what was peculiar about it was that there were different races and ethnicities that would continue upon one profession for lineages without acquiring skills of other professions and making any matrimonial relations with races engaged in other occupations, it was heavily endogamous, but this custom was limited to people of the so called lower castes in some areas of the country not the Majoritarian upper castes, people with occupations involving killing and selling of animals like Fishermen, Hunters, Leather workers and Liquor Sellers were considered "impure" and were ousted off the society, but it didn't really have any effect upon the economy of the Indian subcontinent at all as the taxes have been collected from the people that didn't belong to the lower castes, yet India had one of the highest gdp rates back in Classical and Mediaeval period, castes are nothing but races, the Indo Aryans came and founded the cities 5000 to 3000 years ago, forest dwelling Austroasiactic people migrated into the cities bringing with them non Aryan culture that was uncivilized or impure to the Indo Aryans hence groups from Indo Aryans formed the upper castes and Austroasiactic groups formed the lower castes.
2nd religion and male dominance do nothing but actually add to the revenue generation of the states contrary to popular beliefs, Indian Temples have wealth that would rival a rich developing nation's, the religious ceremonies and tourism generates buisness opportunities for people while also giving rise to a little bit factionism among different religious groups sometimes resulting in tremendous damages to public properties but that's not really why Indian economy would stoop down, it would rather elevate.
Coming to your answer, it's really the very socialist nature of Indian administrative structure and the whole system in general introduced by our founding fathers in 1947 who were under soviet influence that breeds VIP culture as we call it in India where people who manage to sway away the public opinion by promising dumbest most solution that sound rhetorical, provocative and pleasing to a common middle class Indian's daily problems sits in bureaucracy, there is real chill once you've won the election and you have access to all the money you can steal that central government allots for infrastructure development and all, there are practically no market friendly laws and interest rates are high as hell, there is general lack of competative and entrepreneurship culture, everyone wants to have a Government Job, and want things for free, till the extent that politicians bribe the public by donating laptops and smartphones inorder to sway the public opinion in their favour.
That is the reason why we have this miserable condition
excellent video, highly informative.
The real reason India loves Russia is not due to arms sales but the aid Russia gave us in industrialization. The West tried to keep Indian held down as a plantation [which the Brits had reduced India into] and only gave development aid after they feared India would join the Soviet Camp.
The first Indian Institute of Technology at Kharagpur was built with Soviet Aid in 1951 as was India's first major steel plant at Bhilai 1953. The British looted [the word loot is Hindi for plunder] India (which had been the world's largest and richest economy in the 18th Century with up to 27% of global GDP) of c. $45 Trillion [see Prof. Jason Hickel's article online "How Britain Stole $45 Trillion from India] which financed the Industrial Revolution and much other development in Britain. They also killed tens of millions of India's poorest by exporting India's foodgrains for British Food Security and profit creating dozens of famines. Then James Mill [who became 2nd in command of the East India Co.] created the myth that India was a land of Eternal Poverty and Famine to cover up the Crimes Against Humanity of his colleagues.
India was also deindustrialized with all manufacturing activities suppressed to make India a Captive Market and Plantation for Britain's new industrial economy. Not only were cheaper and superior Indian handloom cottons [which had dominated the world market] eliminated so that Manchester could rise, India had produced the world's best steel (Wootz) as English experts confirmed in the 1790s. Britain copied its techniques whilst suppressing modern steel production in India. The oldest seaworthy ship in the Royal Navy, HMS Trincomalee, was built by an Indain company in Bombay in 1817 but shipbuilding in India was soon afterwards suppressed. Stanford Prof Priya Satia tells in her 2018 book how colonial Brits and French observers stated that Mughal/Maratha India was producing cannon and muskets as good as the best in Europe. The British suppressed arms manufacturing not only to stop resistance but to prevent Industrial Development for which they saw arms production as the key. Shashi Tharoor tells us that 19th Century Indian engineers showed that they could design and build locomotives, but of course the British did not allow this. Even in the 1939-45 War the Brits stopped US plans to build aircraft in India to fight Japan as they did not want a postwar Independent India to compete.
Your audio level is very low, it needs to be like 30% louder.
THIS IS A FANTASTIC CHANNEL !!!
Pls make a video on the new 10 billion dollar incentive program announced by the Government of India to encourage semiconductor fab companies to establish their fabs in India
Thankfully the business landscape in India is slowly changing from the old culture of "money lender" mindset to a more corporate mindset.
The older generation of business men are now dying out although several of them have been pioneers (ratan Tata, ajiz premji) , but they are few and far between, majority still have a very traditional outlook of minimum risk, high profit, stuck in a circle of mediocrity
Thanks for making video
This was a much needed topic.
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Really informative video
Brain drain is not a fault of the talent leaving your country but your government's business hostile policies.
Nvidia Pune photo is of old Nvidia SW design center almost 5-7 year since new office location is changed.
Yipee yay yay...go, India!!🥳🥳🥳🇮🇳🇮🇳
India's infrastructure isn't really conducive to semi processor production.
true. and the nature of India's intellectual civil society makes it nigh impossible.
@@alexanderphilip1809 semiconductor companies have already started talks to establish plants in india....
@@AR-dp1kj the news is one sided. There's no words spoken by any semiconductor foundry.
@@浦和-f5y india taiwan fta
@@AR-dp1kj I mean a words from semiconductor firms. They only show interest but that doesn't mean anything. It's still 50/50. I want to hear TSMC or UMC investment plan in india first. TSMC just recently invested huge sum of money in US and Japan. I don't think new foundry investment will come in short period of time before their new plants are complete.
It's probably a mistake for any government to aim to place its nation's feet where other nations have already trod. Tech advancement is accelerating; disruptions are hitting industry at an accelerated pace. Duplicating current methods is a way to fall behind. It takes years to create a chip fab - by which time the leaders, with better IP and more experienced engineers, have moved the goal posts.
For chip design, AI is probably the next big disruption. AI is already poking its proverbial camel's nose into the tent. Soon enough, there won't be room for anything else. Google is secretive about its IP, but we know they're an AI powerhouse and that they are designing their own chips to gain competitive advantages against their rivals. Apple is undoubtedly using AI extensively to speed up chip development. Perhaps the most frightening of the bunch is Tesla, which has allowed the public a glimpse of their Dojo architecture. Tesla has designed some astonishing chips - and they are probably (almost certainly) using AI to accelerate chip design. But Dojo is a particularly significant architecture: it's for neural net processing. In other words, Tesla is in a position to bootstrap. Use AI to make the next generation AI chip architecture, which makes the next, and so on.
India, Malaysia, China, heck, *no* country can catch the Silicon Valley firehose of innovation with just some seed investments and some graduates. They don't have the IP to keep up.
The chip industry is fundamentally different from almost any older industry. Take cars. It was quite feasible for a country that was not a major player in auto manufacturing to plan a campaign to change that. One by one, a number of countries have successfully thrown their hats in the ring and grabbed market share. Incumbents' moats weren't large enough to keep them out.
But that era is probably ending. As cars become smarter, IP becomes more important. If, for example, Chinese companies can make dumb cars you have to drive, and Tesla can make cars that are smart enough to drive themselves and obey commands - robots, essentially - Tesla's IP becomes a moat that is insurmountable at the price points Tesla chooses for its products. And with Tesla's development cycle accelerating, there will be no catching them from a standing start. They're moving too fast.
If I were advising nations who want to improve their position with respect to tech, I would suggest investing heavily in basic research and in creating a smooth developmental path for promising new tech. As tech accelerates, IP ownership and first-mover advantages will become pretty darned important. It's no good wishing to get to where incumbents already are; aim for where they haven't yet gotten.
Innovation is not a monopoly of the Americans. India innovates to solve it's own problems the way American entrepreneurs do.
@@libshastra Correct.
My point is that where India, or for that matter any nation looking to bolster its tech prowess, can most readily obtain advantages not from imitation but from original research and fresh ideas.
If I did not believe India could innovate, I would not make this suggestion.
@@浦和-f5y Chips are indeed a geopolitical and strategic issue, as you will discover if China seizes Taiwan.
Your insights are too naive and completely out of some Netflix movie imaginations. Policies of a country require insights into multidimensions and hence require the coming together of people from various backgrounds which includes foreight into possible conflicts, geopolitics, international trade and trends, education, health needs, home politics, economic state, demographics and labour distribution, urbanisation and migration accomodation capacity of cities and projections into future, amd a bunch of things you havent even thought about. So it is better that you don't advise your myopic views. While I agree that research should be prioritised, the reasons you mention are too myopoc and shortsighted. Funding for reaearch comes from current state of economy. Eating a bunch of vitamins without fullfiling energy requirements wont heal a diseased body. There are far acapable people in tje commitee who make these policies and a lot many think tanks are involved to guide the government - exactly the reason why a single person lile you shouldn't be advising and risking the future of a country based on his or her personal oponions.
If youbhad studied how China, Taiwan, Singapore, Japan, etc rose , you would have made better arguments.
Also, you seem to have no knowledge on evolution of ecosystems. Research and its funding needs sustainable and sustained input - both intellectual and economic. Without setting up established industries which have large demands in the world, sustaining research for long run is impossible. A lot of research in developed countries is funded by home grown industries which initially might have started by producing a hot in demand product that initially did not require research. But maybe you are too young and have not have time to see the world - and hence rightfully not in a position to advise your opinions but on youtube comments. But keep trying, its good to keep thr zeal, maybe someday you will be knowlwdgeable enough but hopefully you still have the zeal to help the country when you are capable instead of fleeing it and enjoying yourself in the west.
@@Urgelt
You, Sir, are the living example of age not being correlated to wisdom
Now Intel has announced that they will manufacture chips in India
Fake news
with tata?
@@浦和-f5y It is true. ISMC ( Tower semiconductor of Israel acquired by Intel) has signed an MOU to establish a 65nm semiconductor fab in Karnataka, home to Bangalore, India's IT capital.
@@alchemist7412 that's not Intel
@@浦和-f5y It is a company that got recently acquired by Intel.
India highly need to develop micro chip industries to compeet with China's industries in this feald. Now चीन has large market around the world, but India highly need to Compeet with China's multi million dollar market around the world in this feald. 🙏😎🙏.
Thanks for your detailed video ❤️
11:20 that's my college IIT KGP ❤️❤️
Great learning channel, keep it up!!
The Indian govt just unveiled a billion dollar plan for promoting fabs in India
sadly money is just the beginning. a billion dollars dosent mean much in Silicon space. but we indian have a nack for jugaad let's see how things go
Indian govt will loose tons of money on this semiconductor adventure. Ask the Singapore and Malaysian govt. Singapore invested billions in Chartered Semicon. After a decade, it sold it to Global Foundries. Chartered Semi never made a profit. Same story with the Malaysian venture. But in this case, no one wants to buy it.
Indian govt is not setting up any company. The units will be set by private conglomerate. The govt will help them .
India is at square one to produce setup fabrication unit china is way far ahead in this arena of multiple and cheap semiconductor production
thank you so much for the podcast
India thinking that it will be handed cutting edge chip design and fabrication by the West is a pipe dream .America ,Taiwan will work to keep India at least 10 years behind so that they can build depency .
Again ,India has no equivalent of Hisilicon and Alibaba's T-Head on the design part .
@Kikilcom 88 India specializes in Indian troll farms and Indian call center scammers. India is not interested in semiconductor 😂
@@icecube3645 vedanta has a announced 15 billion dollars fab.
@@divyanshugoyal9818 15 billion over 10 years is nothing plus it's just displays and very ancient chips.
India needs to invest at least 1 trillion dollars over the next 10 years of it wants its presence in semiconductors felt.
@@s.k634 lol ancient🤣🤣🤣.
Get ur facts right.
@@s.k634TSMC will also invest in India.
Intel is planning to open in its fab in 🇮🇳😁 hope all goes well !! And we r able to set up a good scratch silicon to ic semiconductors ecosystem for real ...
Where did you hear that ?
@@orkkojit search it up
nice and informative video but its still incomplete because it doesnt cover the impact that indian govt latest PLI scheme of 10B USD for chip manufacturers, might have on this industry...because in that, many domestic players like Tata are also investing...and that can give a boost to indian IP and R&D! i think you shud do a follow-up on this video...as far as the education sector is concerned...i think the problem india has is that of too many ppl trying to get into engineering despite not caring about the profession, but to get a job at campus recruitment. thus motivations might hurt skills as well in real world. also there is a stark contrast...there are either very great or very avg colleges...and the focus on schooling is mostly about mark scoring...with the new educationpolicy of indian govt , hopefully some of that will be solved...mnat things are in play...shud make a follow-up
It takes time for things to materialize.
He is not living in India following the headlines.
Once the scheme sets up plants and release numbers, I'm sure you'll find videos.
God damn man, your videos are great. Thank you very much!
Whats up with the comments dude, like can people talk normally without uttering racist crap
pls fix whatever clicking sound everytime you switch slides.
While ROI and rate of return are important factors for capital investors, a greater concern is stability and trust of the legal and judicial framework upon which businesses are established. Since India's judicial system was formed from the basis of the British legal system, its familiarity is what draws capital investment and trust to the country. The same cannot be said for China where the judicial system is heavily influenced by opaque political factors both internal and external and there is little trust that political factors would not interfere. This risk is much reduced in India.
So, tell me why the FDI into China is way more than that into India? These companies are stupid?
Why does Tesla build huge factory in China instead of India?
In theory yes. But in practice not.
People's behaviors also matter. Their habits.
Modernize India and make high tech easily available for everyone to access.
Sadly India's Judiciary is pretty dysfunctional. Cases are piling up and it has shielded itself from reforms. It really needs deep reforms
@@yohaneschristianp this is a very condescending and terrible take. People's attitude have little to do with structural issues within India's government and Judiciary. Often they are held hostage by the Judiciary even if the government has the right intention of improving governance.
I didn't know this, thank you 👌
I agree completely. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Design is not an issue. Most of the hi-tech chip designs are done in India. Making the chip is.
@SURIYA SILVERLANCE India runs big companies for lsi design, 3d modelling for off shore platforms. Each office employs more than thousand engineers. Intel and amd are some of their clients. Regards
@SURIYA SILVERLANCE The so called father of pentium was an Indian from India. The design was started those days of pentium chip. All such design companies operate on low profile as there are not many such customers requiring the design.I think you mistake fabrication to design. Don't call people fools. You have a long way to in your life.Regards.
@SURIYA SILVERLANCE You started to talk rubbish by confusing creating a software for designing and creating the design with the software. I never said India is making software for designing chips. I said the designs are made in India for many chip manufacturers. Same goes to 3D modelling. These software used to create designs are loaned to companies that design them. Some cost few hundred thousand dollars to purchase per license. I believe you are not from such a field and trying to establish that you are right. The software for engineering (automation, drafting), pharma (hospital management), electronic equipment (Instruments and apparatus) are made in India and elsewhere.But these do not bring much revenue and require small design offices. Regards.
@SURIYA SILVERLANCE You are like the school boy who carry a science magazine and boast to other students. Sorry. You will not understand anything now but keep changing what you are saying every time and adding non relevant topic.Please read more magazines to make you sound better and then answer one time properly. If you think you can't argue, good or bad, do not reply. Regards.
@SURIYA SILVERLANCE Now you change your topic again and You need a mental asylum. Didn't you read I said these are low profile companies? Read more magazines and vomit to the school boys on Monday. Regards
Great video! No one doubts the ability of China, India, and even less Taiwan to produce semiconductors. But for a few years everyone will depend, for the most efficient chips, ASML machines. Best,
"and even less Taiwan to produce semiconductors" ... what ? .. they currently own it, being light years ahead of both China and India.
Up untill India stops using American techs and and be independent this is just illusion
Very informative!
Indian government reluctant to invest in Indian talent and industry is what leads to brain drain....the Indian government is happy as long these brilliant people sent money from abroad to India...but Indian government this narrow minded has cost it to be left behind china,korea Singapore and other south east asian countries 😭🙏
U are right. Khangress destroyed India.
Have they master the skill of building toilets?
Don't know that ,but china really mastered in genocide of ughers and Tibetans
@@eternal2780 that's a lie and disinformation. You must be a CIA bot
Ok CCP Bot
8:33 my office used to be in the area shown in the picture
You uploaded video when people in india are sleeping
I saw one video where an VLSI engineer migrated to Germany and using KiCad.
@Kikilcom 88 r u from fuckistaan??
Good video but a lot of the data is outdated. Reality on the ground is much different now
SAB SE AAGEY HONGE HINDUSTANI YEH BAAT HAI SAB NE MAANI
I enjoy your videos! But sometimes there are gaffes. At 8:10 you have used the image of Rajastan Jaypur University's Sanskrit Department! Of course the VHP will tell you that Indian semiconductors were already there 50,000 years ago. It's in the Vedas!
The same Vedas gave the world the Hindu number system and number theory. How's the rice bag business going?
@@giriprasadkotte9876 In fact the ration rice bags are being distributed in UP with photos of the Duo - just in time for the upcoming elections.
@@ralphrau
And?
😂😂😂 How dare you underestimate the power of India's whatsapp graduates ! They will prove themselves by fabbing a 5Ghz processor using cowdung, keep watching !!!
@@prashanthb6521
What's a 5 GHz processor, broooo?
Is it a special subject taught in political science grad?
Your video is amazing ... but I would request you to use nice video clips to portray India rather than using any cheap clips showing India's population crap and cheap ... I know the international media has always shown India in such bad lights for decades but TH-camrs like you can make a difference ... it's time for showing India's richness that this country really deserves.
I'm talking about the clip displayed @ 7:47
We can't even built a road / high way properly and give MAINTENANCE properly
And now semi fabs ????
Indian politician to hama ra kat hi rahi he
Ab company ka vi kat rahi hay 🤣
Anyway i am not gona believe
Even if thay starts project it will not going to complete in atleast before 30 years 🤣🤣
You should stop watching anime & start preparing for your technical studies. You cannot waste your time with anime & blabber about infrastructure projects being delayed.
It's challenge for India to prove himself in the silicon chip industry....
It's very tough to beat China in factors of mass production, manufacturing cost, quality and skill workers...
I don't think india can challenge china in silicon market....
Taiwan, KOREA AND JAPAN ARE WORLD CLASS QUALITY THAT INDIA CAN'T MATCH I THINK!!!!
Ok
Ooo
Soch badlo..bada socho. chut ke baal. China was same before as we are now. Logo se desh badalta hai bass government se nahi
Woke's in india will claim they will compete against ASML 😂😂(so called iisc and IIT)
@Hammer Head no IISc
Many of Indian diaspora in Denmark who did their graduation from IISC & IIT works at ASML. India lacks fab or infrastructure so how can some educational institutes compete against an established company having the infrastructure & experience
We've to do a lot more & we'll fs 🇮🇳🌻
Good video and with helpful suggestions. Hope the educators and professionals in the field study these suggestions and start implementing it. Also despite India having the population the highly skilled and trained population is dwindling. The educated areas in India are having population reduction while the uneducated and unskilled population of the North especially BiMaRU states are increasing their population. The politicians use communal, caste and language divisions instead of education, training etc to get to power. The increase in population of uneducated population seems also to be in their self interest since such population can be easily swayed into empty rhetoric of division, India is ill served by the politicians in the North who have let down the nation by their behaviors. The central govt continues to talk about self sufficient India with great visions without at the same time examining the resources needed to man these sophisticated manufacturing jobs. At this rate these visions of grandeur and development will all remain only on paper without execution unless proper attention is paid to alleviate the skills gap in the vast population areas of the North. Will the long term needs of India trump these short term objectives of the politicians to increase their power is a question that only these politicians of the North can answer and in which the Central Govt should delve into.
PLI Rocks👍
11:01 Its Karnataka, Makes sense.
thank you and posted to reddit
Indian saffron Radicalization Govt don't have road map to lucrative initiative to produce semiconductor business in india
In which world do you live. Just read other comments to know what Indian government is doing
Islamists Khangress had road map ??
@@Aegon_Targaryen How many mosque were built and Shariya laws were passed by Khangress? Khangress is not best but Hindu rastra is not acceptable in current India. FO.
True, people who believes Vedas have all knowledge are now asking foreign countries to come and built cutting edge tech. Something doesn't fit right with Safforn gov and it's supporters.
@@deepakkumarjoshi I am not a daily wage labourer like you north indians
South India need anti conversion bill
Ngl I already watch your video as a podcast anyways
India have whole lot its own multinational companies which designing the chips for the other companies
Semiconductor industry is a very high cost, high tech and high skilled and technical industry which are very high barriers to entry unless they have deep pockets. Also only the top 3 companies that dominant the industry is able to make money and the bottom companies are either breaking even or losing money. India is already late for the party and I doubt they are willing to spend billions of dollars to catchup especially now its even harder to do so as they would also need to develop their local supply chain for the consumables and parts needed to support the manufacturing industry and keep their fabs running 24/7 with low shutdown rates.
we have the labour . we need the right investments from the govt and private sector which due to the automobile giants in india facing shortages are now a priority and more attractive for them to invest.
@@tanmaypanadi1414 Lets be clear here we taking about the frontend of semiconductor chip fabrication and not the backend semiconductor manufacturing which is easier to startup and kickstart.
@@albertwong1919 let the time tell there was a time when china and south korea were considered as third world countries where establishing tech industry was considered imposible but now they are the biggest manufacturers of high end chips in industry.
I think this is one of your best video. I really like the chip images. Do a progression of a chips showing CPUs over time. Thank you sire.
Why a massive expensive software has such a crappy gui?
Where can i see IEEE acceptance rates at a country level?
Volume too low.
Lol.. I'm imagining them using lintrack.. but to be serious.. the auto design systems can never produce a product better than the coding that it was programmed with.. using more labour intensive techniques an engineer who has a broader background (and actual tallent) can create much more efficient and longer lasting designs..
Consider also podcast on soundcloud plis
Failure to success? Both videos?
Disliking all videos because of Google's censorship of the dislike count, good video content. Creators need to seriously start posting videos on other providers.
oh way to go!! disliking videos of legit content creators will definitely hurt google...
as time goes India will have its own big local start ups linked to semi conductors and electronics, most or many of the international MNC linked technology are runned by Indians .IBM , Nokia / was , Intel hardware is by India , so is Googles etc . they are 1st gen Indians
India is now 3rd in unicons it will only rise , and it will also have companies in electronics and semi conductors , and defence and space so on its happening in space and defence already
India also has worlds biggest diaspora and its a wealthy and highly educated one ,
and Indian government is the most nationalist it ever had in past 600 odd years
There are visual jokes? Ahhh... Okay? Hmm‽
Your video needs to be restructured. What's native Thai universities got to do with India? 12:36
Aye aye captain.
ALMIGHTY GOD IS ONE AND BLESSES EVERYONE
Your channel is a gem. Thanks for making these videos!
When is John Deere going to step up and sponsor this channel?
Good Day Sir, this is Roger from Microsoft support, there is something broken with your semiconductor design, we need you to start TeamViewer Remote Support
Any Aussie tech support ? I'd like to prefer this to that 😂
Hi, my name is Anderson. Could you go to the nearest 7-Eleven store and buy 2 $500 iTunes cards?.... ;)
0:51 Love your mom! :)
The semiconductor industry is extremely capital intensive and India needs a game plan, otherwise it's just dumping lakh crore rupees into the toilet. India needs to determine if it wants bleeding edge tech or mature tech and how it plans to pursue it, because India right now cannot support a leading edge fab until it solves its electricity availability & reliability problem, its clean water problem, its higher education problem. And if India wants an indigenous semiconductor industry, is the government willing to bear the billions/trillions on failed start-ups and loses until a viable company emerges, or have JV with tech transfer for mature tech and still spend billions/trillions to play catchup.