Peter Kreeft personally assisted my husband and me in converting to the Catholic Church in 1985. I took one of his philosophy classes at Boston College prior to that. I treasure the time we spent in his company and own and have read many of his books. In fact I just put one down just before tuning into this podcast. He's in my prayers.
I am a former Protestant, and I’d say the reason why they tend to know so much more scripture is because it’s “all they have.” They don’t have the Liturgy, the history of the Church, novenas, the Rosary, the Blessed Mother, chaplet of Divine Mercy, sacraments, sacramentals, the Saints, holy days, adoration, meditation etc. studying scripture is super important, but it is not all. As scripture says, THE CHURCH is the foundation of our faith, not scripture; the early Church didn’t have scripture as we know it today, but since modern Protestantism rejects all those things, they focus on scripture memorizing, but I’d say that if you don’t have those above mentioned things, you never truly understand scripture. You need the Church.
I really wish ppl would stop saying protestant when what they mean is a particular stripe of protestantism, and oftentimes a very American evangelical protestantism. Formal liturgy, the following of the liturgical calendar with all the changes in vestments, altar cloths etc that accompany it, sacraments from 2 to all 7, Tradition, Creeds, saints, church history etc can all be found to varying degrees within protestantism. (Yes, even Adoration and Benediction.) Tradition is actually one of the pillars of Anglicanism, 'Scripture, Tradition and Reason.' Alongside sacred scripture they have the creeds, fhe writings of the Church Fathers, the 39 articles, BCP...it's bizarre to say that protestants "only" have scripture. Some Presbyterians use the anaphoria of Hypolitus eucharistic prayer in their liturgy which is older than the one currently used in the Roman rite in the Catholic Church. Protestants belief that scripture is the only source that can be relied upon to be inerrant and that it has everything that is sufficient to be saved does not mean it is the only source that can be drawn from. The idea you put forward is the equivalent of Protestants saying "Catholics bow down to statues," or other tired and ignorant misconceptions. It does perhaps reflect the particular kind of protestant background you came from though. Were you from a non denominational evangelical type of church with a "worship team" and communion once a month with grape juice kind of church?
Matt simply said “Protestant” when speaking about the Catholic’s seeming lack of scripture knowledge. Therefore, I as a former “Protestant” spoke to the accuracy of that statement and why that might be.
@@littleboots9800 I can understand Anglicans getting offended being lumped together with low church Baptists or other denominations that are world's apart. Protestant as a label can only really mean "not Catholic", as there aren't many consistent ways to narrow it down further.
Peter Kreeft is like St. Francis de Sales: he speaks so gently and so lovingly, and yet the Gospel at every moment, that you just want to let him take your hand and lead you directly to God.
If I were a graphologist (I have an autograph of Dr Kreeft) or a scholar of birth charts (with the necessary precautions for a Christian - a Christian, having safeguarded the fundamental dogmas of the faith, can devote himself to astrological studies just as he can devote himself to psychology, characterology, graphology, physiognomy, pedagogical sciences, he can only adhere to those astrological schools which are not incompatible with Catholic doctrine provided that it is believed that in all cases the will of man remains free to follow or not the influence of celestial phenomena on his actions, for which he therefore retains full responsibility.), I would say that the report specifying the natural gifts of Dr Kreeft that would result would be absolutely unique, unsurpassed and perhaps unsurpassable.
I love these conversations because every time I hear it, I realize again that no doubt is original and that faith is a gift to be received every day. What a waste of a husband would say after years of marriage, "Can I really know that my wife loves loves me? Sure she married me, bore my children, listens to my ideas, does my laundry, prepares my dinner every night, tells me she loves me, kisses me good morning/night every day, but can I really know?" Ugh, what a waste of time and energy. And if a mountain would move because we have faith enough to tell it to, why can't the same cat we had on earth be in heaven with us? If we have doubt, it's because we choose to, I'm certain of it. 😊.
Not even 2 min and I'm reminded what an amazingly good fellow Dr. Kreeft is. I love this guy. Dr. Kreeft please know that your words bring me much comfort, encouragement and some laughs. I hope I get to meet you one day. God bless you.
I met Peter Kreeft once but I did not know who he was. I was expounding about the folly of using "they" instead of using male as the common gender, and he was agreeing with me. After he left someone told me who he was. I felt like a right idiot.
Dr. Kreeft must be one of the most tough and enduring Catholic apologists in the history of Holy Mother Church. A post script. I can't imagine disagreeing with Prof. Kreeft but I've come to observe and believe that Americans have developed an unhealthy obsession with dogs. I am a strong admirer of service dogs and the men and women who train them -- I've watched them do so. And there is a special relationship between the dog and the person it serves. But I sometimes wonder if there is an inverse relationship between the growing number of dogs -- often more than one or two per household -- and the declining number of babies. I see dogs sitting on the laps of drivers and dogs in baby carriages. There's a connection with the nationwide success of these pet stores -chains of them. If I come off as "Old Man Potter," so be it. After all we do now live in Potterville, don't we? And I wonder if "sentimental hogwash" is one influence.
Dogs and children are not mutually exclusive. I have both. What you are seeing is that people who reject having children still have the innate desire to have someone ti care for. They replace the children with dogs, but the rejection of children comes first, not the other way around.
@@danacasey8266 I don't disagree, but I've know people simply too old to be bringing in replacement dogs for two or more when one is all they can handle at their level of physicality. And abused dogs should be off limits and yet the pounds sell them off. And driving in today's current reckless and negligent driving it is irresponsible to have them sitting on your lap. I appreciate the old and often with a deceased husband or wife -- dogs are good companions and I've seen that as well. "Dog carriages? When did that begin? But people spending thousands of dollars on pets that would normally died natural deaths is highly questionable. At at my it is simple weird to see so many dogs and so much spent. When I was a boy and man people had the family dog. THAT was normal and the dog came after the family. And there wasn't the need for laws and licenses from the ALMIGHTY STATE. BTW There remain hundreds of thousands of unadopted children. I privilege people and the human space before animals of any kind or place.
@@kevinkoski7570 I laughed when I saw your reply. That's the irony of that film. My fellow boomers who made that movie popular never seem to literally see my point. Thank you.
As a millennial, I do see many of my childless peers attempting to fill the void of children with pets. Calling them ‘fur babies’. A family member my own age (37) calls his dog his ‘daughter’. Yeah no. I have both children and a dog, and gosh we love our dog, and loved our cat, but we do not feel the same way about pets that we do about children. People are filling the child-shaped void with pets just as they fill the God-shaped void with work, greed, identity politics, made-up mental health issues, social media likes, p*rn, and so much more.
Very well read. I fail to see how American Catholics can support either democrats or republicans. Post liberalism and a distributism form of economic base is what Catholics should pursue.
Peter Kreeft is one of the most wonderful and amazing professor's of the 21th century. I love his faith like a child. He is a prime of example of someone who is humble. 100 of published books, a doctrine, professor at an Ivy league college. The list of achievements can go on. A remarkable human being. I can understand why Matt considers him a favorite.
What a treasure, Dr. Peter Kreeft! Thank you Matt for this epic discussion. This morning Dr. Kreeft’s understanding of purgatory, our cleansing after death, in preparation for our heavenly home, resonated at mass “But the God of all grace, Who hath called us unto His eternal glory in Christ Jesus, after you have suffered a little, will himself perfect you, and confirm you, and establish you. 1Peter 5: 10. Deo Gratias 🙏🏻❤🙏🏻 God bless you both!
As wonderful as Dr Kreeft is, he is after all, human. And he is an academic having spent practically a lifetime in one of the most liberal states in the country. You can’t have that not affect you to some degree after all those years when all your colleagues and peers are of one mind. But God bless him and the contribution he has made to bless many. We do love Dr Kreeft. We just realize that, like the Pope, he is not infallible (not that he ever said he was).
Where are you picking up on this influence? As a fellow masshole, as they call us, being surrounded by liberalism almost makes us more steadfast in our own beliefs.
I’ve followed Dr. Kreeft for about 30 years, and have never heard him say anything even close to questionable. Why even surface such a disparaging idea?
In Heaven, "The coffee will be coffeer." -Dr. Peter Kreeft That needs to be a t-shirt. Heck, that needs to be a coffee mug. Dear Pints marketing team, you're welcome.
Peter Kreeft is a humble stable wealth of knowledge. He shines out true charity. God bless him. Thank you for sending him to our world that so looks for certainty.
Dr. Kreeft is in my top 10, too. It was a thrill to meet him in person last month. He usually big part of God's turning my mind and heart toward right thinking and true faith in reason.
Is there really anything awkward or cringe worthy about discussing our deaths, though? Maybe it shouldn't be something you mention to people you don't know well, but if you know someone is working toward Heaven and desires to be with God, isn't it a little like asking a pregnant woman if she's ready to have that baby? I've been wondering about this since I had my first baby and experienced the awful awful awful pain and then the joy and relief of having done it. I think there's a lot of similarities between death and childbirth, and I'm leaning towards the thought that we could discuss death with a lot more anticipation.
There are so many parts of this interview that I had to rewind a couple times to hear Dr. Kreeft's explanation because they were so deeply profound. At this rate, this interview will take me 7 hours to complete, and I love it! Good job to Matt for a really good interview. I like when he says he disagrees or doesn't understand, and then Kreeft explains further. It's just so good And satisfying listening to this man. God bless him and everyone listening to this
What a wonderful gift this discussion is. Proof Catholics have something going on to be the only mainstream spiritual group with an internet presence, creating and fostering this kind of thought and exchange. Thar i know of at least
I can picture heaven very easily: cs lewis, JRR Tolkien, Peter Kreeft, GKC, and Jesus all having a good long chat on Pints (heaven edition). I could probably listen forever lol
I really appreciate that even though politics are normally so contentious, nobody seems to be dogpiling on anyone over politics here. Peter Kreeft's contributions and wisdom are so great that I think it is fantastic to not worry him over current politics.
Holy. Cow. What a tour de force! I didn’t know Dr Kreeft’s name but I know of his book of the dialog between JFK, Lewis, and Huxley. CS Lewis will always be my mentor and teacher. And I used to bemoan the fact that no modern author comes close to Lewis. But Dr. Kreeft certainly does. What a mind, but also what a casual friendly manner he has. This was incredible and incredibly edifying.
This makes me so happy for Matt. Thank you for sharing this wonderful conversation between the two of you! We could create a whole line of t-shirts with quotes from this interview.
So stoked they started talking about Michael D. O’Brien and his novels. I was hoping they would seeing as Peter is a huge fan of his. I hope to see Michael on PwA one day. A man can dream.
Can’t wait for this one. Reading his book ‘Forty Reasons I am a Catholic’ and loving it. Would appreciate any recommendations of his books that could help one explore Catholicism more.
"Catholic Christianity" Last ch from "handbook of Catholic apologetics" "Jesus shock" "The philosophy of Jesus" (All by kreeft) Look up mortimer Adler's syntopicon and u can find great books written by Catholics. I've read very little by them, but I know these books have helped others. Try someone like John of the cross. ----- Saints are best people to learn the faith from. Go to local pregnancy resource center and u should find solid catholics.
I find it incredible the discussion about Islam when Deacon Harold Burke-Sivers just spoke on the radio on this subject today! Muslims do in fact own us in the fasting department but I will continue to pray they will come to know the one true Christ PS- still hoping Dr. Kreeft will consider adopting me as one of his granddaughters 🤞🏼
I didn't know who this mas is but as soon as he started speaking, I knew deep down I can learn a lot of things from this. So, I think I'll be watching the whole podcast.
I love Peter Kreeft (and Matt Fradd) to bits and I loved this episode so much. I just wish it was longer! But I do want to point out one thing, about the LotR movies, Prof. Kreeft is just objectively wrong. Peter Jackson never said they didn't film the scouring of the Shire for money reasons, in fact, they even put glimpses of it in the Mirror of Galadriel sequence as a homage. He explicitly stated in the Extended Edition director's commentary that it would have been impossible and way too exhausting for the audience to start up another storyline after the destruction of the Ring and I completely agree. It would have been insanity to film it exactly as it is in the book. As much as I love Matt's guests in general, I notice that most of them are very much "book people" who don't seem to really grasp the medium of cinema. I mean, A Man for All Seasons is a fine film but it's really more of a play. The Lord of the Rings films are masterpieces of cinematography and I have the impression that most of these intellectual types just don't appreciate that aspect: the grandiose filming style, the incredible music, the groundbreaking visual design, etcetera.
1:00:08 "Methods are ways of making a difficult thing easy. (...) But there is no method for trust, and there is no method for love. You just do it." Great thought. Reminds me of John Paul II quote (homily in Koln in 1980) "You can't just live on trial, you can't just die on trial. You can't just love on a trial basis, you can't only accept a person on a trial basis and for a while." (I'm not sure if there's an official English translation)
26:20 He was stealing that one from CSL. If there was ever a man who fully accepted the antitheism (if not everything else) of Sartre and then the Theism of St. Augustine, it was CSL. If anyone ever says "CSL never was a true Atheist" and points at Dawkins and company, well, no, he never was a true _New_ Atheist, but he certainly was a true _Sartrean_ one.
My favorite part of episodes is hearing Thursday laugh off-mic in the background. It's somehow really important for the atmosphere. Adds warmth. ❤ I used to listen to Howard Stern and what I enjoyed most was the authenticity of the banter in the studio.
The novel he mentioned about a boy who could heal and the world not handling it is Blessed Child by Ted Dekker. Unless there is another one just like it lol.
Ted Dekker is delightfully weird and makes me think… but I bet much of his stuff borders on too abstract. This one is one of the least weird of his books.
I think the reason the state of death is permanent is because we no longer have to ability to make decisions. We are called to judgement and God knows the ultimate orientation of our soul either toward Him or against Him. God knows that given an infinite amount of choice that a given soul would either choose or reject Him. So if one dies in mortal sin, it is because that person would have ultimately rejected God, so that person is called to judgement in the appropriate state. Why create beings who would reject God? Because to have the gift of life and free will is better than not.
Or like angels choices are eternal after life and the choice at the moment of death when we pass from finitude to eternity, reverberates forever. I think of free agency as necessary part of Creation and that the Creation itself IS the participation of free agents. Otherwise what would be the point? God could just imagine in His Mind infinitely and there would be no need for us to exist. Creation IS Something finite emerging from infinite possibility and necessarily involves a Choice.
The eternity of hell...it was best described to me this way. You offended an infinite being. This requires an infinite payment to be just. We are finite beings, so the only equivalent to infinity for us is eternity. This is also an argument to the divinity of Christ, the infinity point, that is. If he didn't possess an infinite nature, how could he have made an infinite payment for our salvation?
I just came across your channel for the first time, I assume because I've watched a few videos including Dr. Kreeft before. Surprised to find out that this is going down in Steubenville, my hometown. Small world.
On animals…pets going to heaven…I am convinced that some pet souls are somewhat shaped by their proximity to their owner. I have seen what happens when one of my pets got lost and it’s personality changed when it was with someone else. Much like what happens to us as we align to the love of Christ, animals become ennobled as they develop a bond with a human.
1:31:45 As I recall the words, she was saying _she would like to offer_ the King of Glory a lake of beer. Not that I know Gaelic, but translations exist, like for Rop tú mo baile. I think you will have heard that one, but in English. Look it up.
With all due respect to Dr. Kreeft, he's talking about the Jodoshu and Jodoshinshu branches of Japanese Buddhism. They are not heretics; their sect is consistent with broader Mahayana Buddhism. I was on the path to becoming a Jodoshinhsu priest before converting to Catholicism.
45:15 Eustace Clarence Scrubb was his name (and he nearly deserved it). When TLC came out with "No Scrubs" my first reaction to the title was "what's the connexion to Eustace" ...
Did someone make a list of all the books and movies suggested? This talk (among many other things) was so rich of good suggestions that a list would be awesome. Praise God!
3:37 One problem I've encountered in Christianity is they start out saying you can't doubt reason itself and it's the foundation of all thought and all that. But then they backpeddle when they encounter reasoning that challenges Christianity and start saying reason is invalid and the human mind is untrustworthy. But to be honest I've heard them mainly from protestants. Like when Martin Luther said "if thy reason offend thee (meaning if it makes you doubt luthranism), pluck it out"
I think the reason God gives us the option to refuse Him is because theosis or divinization is the point. One of the primary images of God in which we are made is a being with a conscious will. It doesn’t make sense to me that stripping us of His image would be the method of bringing us back to full communion with Himself. That initial image was good, we just abused that gift and chose to fall. Our free will used in a disordered way lead to our fall, so it stands to reason our free will would be involved in making amends for our fall. Obviously this is not to say we can will ourselves to heaven, we’re powerless on our own to do this. But what God did, through Christ, was reach down and offer us a hand to get back up and show us the way. But it’s on us to reach up and take His hand and stay on the path He laid out. Out of love, God freely wills our lives to us. He wants us to return that love and freely will our lives back to Him. Sure, He could certainly make it so that we couldn’t choose anything else, but I don’t believe God views us a merely possessions to collect. A loving relationship is not a one way street, and therefore our free will would be required to properly reciprocate the love we receive from Him. As for the question of Hell and the Thomist idea of an unchanging state after death I think it’s a good logical argument, but one that doesn’t account for God allowing for things that don’t make sense to us. I would guess the train of thought is something along the lines of: for something to be eternal, it would have to lack entropy, and if it lacks entropy, it would be in an unchanging state. I think it logically tracks, but God can do God things like reverse entropy and raise the dead, or be an infinite being existing in a finite place and time simultaneously. So the unchanging state idea that you hear from Thomists seems to make sense to me, but I’m not willing to limit God to things I’m capable of making sense of.
Peter Kreeft personally assisted my husband and me in converting to the Catholic Church in 1985. I took one of his philosophy classes at Boston College prior to that. I treasure the time we spent in his company and own and have read many of his books. In fact I just put one down just before tuning into this podcast. He's in my prayers.
I was BC class of ‘23, took Dr. Kreeft five times. Now I’m Catholic!
I am a former Protestant, and I’d say the reason why they tend to know so much more scripture is because it’s “all they have.” They don’t have the Liturgy, the history of the Church, novenas, the Rosary, the Blessed Mother, chaplet of Divine Mercy, sacraments, sacramentals, the Saints, holy days, adoration, meditation etc. studying scripture is super important, but it is not all. As scripture says, THE CHURCH is the foundation of our faith, not scripture; the early Church didn’t have scripture as we know it today, but since modern Protestantism rejects all those things, they focus on scripture memorizing, but I’d say that if you don’t have those above mentioned things, you never truly understand scripture. You need the Church.
I really wish ppl would stop saying protestant when what they mean is a particular stripe of protestantism, and oftentimes a very American evangelical protestantism.
Formal liturgy, the following of the liturgical calendar with all the changes in vestments, altar cloths etc that accompany it, sacraments from 2 to all 7, Tradition, Creeds, saints, church history etc can all be found to varying degrees within protestantism. (Yes, even Adoration and Benediction.)
Tradition is actually one of the pillars of Anglicanism, 'Scripture, Tradition and Reason.'
Alongside sacred scripture they have the creeds, fhe writings of the Church Fathers, the 39 articles, BCP...it's bizarre to say that protestants "only" have scripture.
Some Presbyterians use the anaphoria of Hypolitus eucharistic prayer in their liturgy which is older than the one currently used in the Roman rite in the Catholic Church.
Protestants belief that scripture is the only source that can be relied upon to be inerrant and that it has everything that is sufficient to be saved does not mean it is the only source that can be drawn from.
The idea you put forward is the equivalent of Protestants saying "Catholics bow down to statues," or other tired and ignorant misconceptions. It does perhaps reflect the particular kind of protestant background you came from though. Were you from a non denominational evangelical type of church with a "worship team" and communion once a month with grape juice kind of church?
@@littleboots9800 the different Protestant denominations are all different. They have bits and pieces of truth, but lack the fullness of truth.
Matt simply said “Protestant” when speaking about the Catholic’s seeming lack of scripture knowledge. Therefore, I as a former “Protestant” spoke to the accuracy of that statement and why that might be.
Bravo! Extremely well-put!
@@littleboots9800 I can understand Anglicans getting offended being lumped together with low church Baptists or other denominations that are world's apart. Protestant as a label can only really mean "not Catholic", as there aren't many consistent ways to narrow it down further.
Peter Kreeft is like St. Francis de Sales: he speaks so gently and so lovingly, and yet the Gospel at every moment, that you just want to let him take your hand and lead you directly to God.
Well spoken and truly easily observed !
If I were a graphologist (I have an autograph of Dr Kreeft) or a scholar of birth charts (with the necessary precautions for a Christian - a Christian, having safeguarded the fundamental dogmas of the faith, can devote himself to astrological studies just as he can devote himself to psychology, characterology, graphology, physiognomy, pedagogical sciences, he can only adhere to those astrological schools which are not incompatible with Catholic doctrine provided that it is believed that in all cases the will of man remains free to follow or not the influence of celestial phenomena on his actions, for which he therefore retains full responsibility.), I would say that the report specifying the natural gifts of Dr Kreeft that would result would be absolutely unique, unsurpassed and perhaps unsurpassable.
@PaoloGasparini-ux2kp idk if ur words about being allowed to do astrology are correct
@@AquinasBased I'm sorry I have not understood the question.
Babe wake up, new Peter Kreeft on pints with aquinas just dropped 🗣️
"Doubt is a demand, Ignorance is a confession." (17:36)
- Dr. Peter Kreeft
Cannot wait! We LOVE Dr. Kreeft!
I love these conversations because every time I hear it, I realize again that no doubt is original and that faith is a gift to be received every day.
What a waste of a husband would say after years of marriage, "Can I really know that my wife loves loves me? Sure she married me, bore my children, listens to my ideas, does my laundry, prepares my dinner every night, tells me she loves me, kisses me good morning/night every day, but can I really know?" Ugh, what a waste of time and energy.
And if a mountain would move because we have faith enough to tell it to, why can't the same cat we had on earth be in heaven with us?
If we have doubt, it's because we choose to, I'm certain of it. 😊.
Not even 2 min and I'm reminded what an amazingly good fellow Dr. Kreeft is. I love this guy.
Dr. Kreeft please know that your words bring me much comfort, encouragement and some laughs. I hope I get to meet you one day. God bless you.
My greatest college regret while a Philosophy minor at BC (‘89) was never having class with Dr. Kreeft!!
I had him three times a week my freshman year at BC for theology and philosophy. It was awesome.
Graduated class of 23’, I took 5 classes with him….wasn’t enough
I met Peter Kreeft once but I did not know who he was. I was expounding about the folly of using "they" instead of using male as the common gender, and he was agreeing with me. After he left someone told me who he was. I felt like a right idiot.
I’m a dietitian and I love how he said that God chose eating and drinking to come to us. I so love that ❤
This man is absolutely incredible
You are being modest about this " saint " !
Dr. Kreeft is always a treasure!
Dr. Kreeft must be one of the most tough and enduring Catholic apologists in the history of Holy Mother Church. A post script. I can't imagine disagreeing with Prof. Kreeft but I've come to observe and believe that Americans have developed an unhealthy obsession with dogs. I am a strong admirer of service dogs and the men and women who train them -- I've watched them do so. And there is a special relationship between the dog and the person it serves. But I sometimes wonder if there is an inverse relationship between the growing number of dogs -- often more than one or two per household -- and the declining number of babies. I see dogs sitting on the laps of drivers and dogs in baby carriages. There's a connection with the nationwide success of these pet stores -chains of them. If I come off as "Old Man Potter," so be it. After all we do now live in Potterville, don't we? And I wonder if "sentimental hogwash" is one influence.
Dogs and children are not mutually exclusive. I have both. What you are seeing is that people who reject having children still have the innate desire to have someone ti care for. They replace the children with dogs, but the rejection of children comes first, not the other way around.
@@danacasey8266 I don't disagree, but I've know people simply too old to be bringing in replacement dogs for two or more when one is all they can handle at their level of physicality. And abused dogs should be off limits and yet the pounds sell them off. And driving in today's current reckless and negligent driving it is irresponsible to have them sitting on your lap. I appreciate the old and often with a deceased husband or wife -- dogs are good companions and I've seen that as well. "Dog carriages? When did that begin? But people spending thousands of dollars on pets that would normally died natural deaths is highly questionable. At at my it is simple weird to see so many dogs and so much spent. When I was a boy and man people had the family dog. THAT was normal and the dog came after the family. And there wasn't the need for laws and licenses from the ALMIGHTY STATE. BTW There remain hundreds of thousands of unadopted children. I privilege people and the human space before animals of any kind or place.
Haha yep, living in Potterville, USA
@@kevinkoski7570 I laughed when I saw your reply. That's the irony of that film. My fellow boomers who made that movie popular never seem to literally see my point. Thank you.
As a millennial, I do see many of my childless peers attempting to fill the void of children with pets. Calling them ‘fur babies’. A family member my own age (37) calls his dog his ‘daughter’. Yeah no. I have both children and a dog, and gosh we love our dog, and loved our cat, but we do not feel the same way about pets that we do about children. People are filling the child-shaped void with pets just as they fill the God-shaped void with work, greed, identity politics, made-up mental health issues, social media likes, p*rn, and so much more.
So good. Never had a grandpa...Peter is the delightful, wise grandpa I never had...
Very well read. I fail to see how American Catholics can support either democrats or republicans. Post liberalism and a distributism form of economic base is what Catholics should pursue.
This interview was great for my depression.
Offer up ur sadness to Jesus.
He'll accept it and use it to cleanse ur soul.
I'm praying for u
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This makes me more and more excited about studying theology.
Cry everytime Matt interviews Dr. Kreeft. Not from what Peter says, but because of what he makes me think about.
what a treat it is even to experience this man through a screen
Dr. Peter Kreeft; author of “The Hem of His Garment”; inspiration of one of my best poems which expressed part of my deepest inner healing.
Peter Kreeft is one of the most wonderful and amazing professor's of the 21th century. I love his faith like a child. He is a prime of example of someone who is humble. 100 of published books, a doctrine, professor at an Ivy league college. The list of achievements can go on. A remarkable human being. I can understand why Matt considers him a favorite.
Matt: "We are live"
Dr. Kreeft: "Are we?"
Matt: "uh, I don't know"
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I am jealous of Matt. He has had a very personal interaction and encounter with Peter Kreeft.
What a treasure, Dr. Peter Kreeft! Thank you Matt for this epic discussion. This morning Dr. Kreeft’s understanding of purgatory, our cleansing after death, in preparation for our heavenly home, resonated at mass “But the God of all grace, Who hath called us unto His eternal glory in Christ Jesus, after you have suffered a little, will himself perfect you, and confirm you, and establish you. 1Peter 5: 10. Deo Gratias 🙏🏻❤🙏🏻 God bless you both!
As wonderful as Dr Kreeft is, he is after all, human. And he is an academic having spent practically a lifetime in one of the most liberal states in the country. You can’t have that not affect you to some degree after all those years when all your colleagues and peers are of one mind. But God bless him and the contribution he has made to bless many. We do love Dr Kreeft. We just realize that, like the Pope, he is not infallible (not that he ever said he was).
Has he said anything that is liberal/progressive ?
Where are you picking up on this influence? As a fellow masshole, as they call us, being surrounded by liberalism almost makes us more steadfast in our own beliefs.
I’ve followed Dr. Kreeft for about 30 years, and have never heard him say anything even close to questionable. Why even surface such a disparaging idea?
My dream panel. Dr. Kreeft. Matt. Scott Hahn. And Ralph Martin.
In Heaven, "The coffee will be coffeer." -Dr. Peter Kreeft
That needs to be a t-shirt. Heck, that needs to be a coffee mug. Dear Pints marketing team, you're welcome.
That would be amazing!
Matt's parents won't be resting easy tonight with that title 😬
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Lmao I was doing the math. Wife... 4 kids...
Peter Kreeft is a humble stable wealth of knowledge. He shines out true charity. God bless him. Thank you for sending him to our world that so looks for certainty.
Dr. Kreeft is in my top 10, too. It was a thrill to meet him in person last month. He usually big part of God's turning my mind and heart toward right thinking and true faith in reason.
Love Dr. Kreeft. He exudes wisdom and JOY!
Yes ! Yes !
Kreeft is great. Truly the C.S. Lewis of our age.
How???? His Pascal's Wager video on PragerU was DISGUSTING, also his argument from desire is just a laughingstock
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So excited! Dr. Kreeft is the best!
I can't believe Matt asks him how much longer he thinks he'll be alive and wonders aloud if this is the last time he'll see him! Goodness.
Yeah i cringed a little bit.
😂 Matts awkward sometimes but we love him for it ❤
@@SL-es5kbthat’s the truth a little rough around the edges at times ❤
Is there really anything awkward or cringe worthy about discussing our deaths, though? Maybe it shouldn't be something you mention to people you don't know well, but if you know someone is working toward Heaven and desires to be with God, isn't it a little like asking a pregnant woman if she's ready to have that baby? I've been wondering about this since I had my first baby and experienced the awful awful awful pain and then the joy and relief of having done it. I think there's a lot of similarities between death and childbirth, and I'm leaning towards the thought that we could discuss death with a lot more anticipation.
@@jessie341 no I think talking about death is fine. I think saying to someone who is close to death to guess when it will be is cringe.
There are so many parts of this interview that I had to rewind a couple times to hear Dr. Kreeft's explanation because they were so deeply profound. At this rate, this interview will take me 7 hours to complete, and I love it! Good job to Matt for a really good interview. I like when he says he disagrees or doesn't understand, and then Kreeft explains further. It's just so good And satisfying listening to this man. God bless him and everyone listening to this
What a wonderful gift from God for us all. Thank you Dr. Kreeft.
I second the notion on Matt talking with David Anders on Pints with Acquinas. He’s wonderful and I respect him as much as Matt and Peter.
Your show is a gift. It’s so comforting and real food for the mind. Thank you.
What a delight to listen to Dr. Peter Krefeld!
Dr. Kreeft is adorable. Excellent interview! ❤️💙
What a wonderful gift this discussion is. Proof Catholics have something going on to be the only mainstream spiritual group with an internet presence, creating and fostering this kind of thought and exchange. Thar i know of at least
Incredible, loved this and is so solid. Thank you Peter Kreeft and Matt and Thursday 🥰😘
I can picture heaven very easily: cs lewis, JRR Tolkien, Peter Kreeft, GKC, and Jesus all having a good long chat on Pints (heaven edition). I could probably listen forever lol
I really appreciate that even though politics are normally so contentious, nobody seems to be dogpiling on anyone over politics here. Peter Kreeft's contributions and wisdom are so great that I think it is fantastic to not worry him over current politics.
I left a negative comment, so, my apologies for that. He is a wise and witty and wonderful man on all other topics.
Great, I've been waiting for your interview with Dr. Kreeft. Big fan of him
Holy. Cow. What a tour de force!
I didn’t know Dr Kreeft’s name but I know of his book of the dialog between JFK, Lewis, and Huxley.
CS Lewis will always be my mentor and teacher. And I used to bemoan the fact that no modern author comes close to Lewis. But Dr. Kreeft certainly does. What a mind, but also what a casual friendly manner he has. This was incredible and incredibly edifying.
You guys are incredible and this show is such a blessing to our world! Praise Christ for working through this beautiful program ❤️✝️❤️
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I would pay a ridiculous amount of money on locals for you to interview Jimmy Akin and Dr. Kreeft at the same time.
This makes me so happy for Matt. Thank you for sharing this wonderful conversation between the two of you! We could create a whole line of t-shirts with quotes from this interview.
"Common Disagree with a Saint" 😂😂 that was really funny.
This was one of my most favourite conversation!
So stoked they started talking about Michael D. O’Brien and his novels. I was hoping they would seeing as Peter is a huge fan of his. I hope to see Michael on PwA one day. A man can dream.
Dr. Kreeft on Pints are always the best discussions! This one was beautiful.
Can’t wait for this one. Reading his book ‘Forty Reasons I am a Catholic’ and loving it. Would appreciate any recommendations of his books that could help one explore Catholicism more.
Fun! Sunday's Homily quoted a paragraph or two.
"Catholic Christianity"
Last ch from "handbook of Catholic apologetics"
"Jesus shock"
"The philosophy of Jesus"
(All by kreeft)
Look up mortimer Adler's syntopicon and u can find great books written by Catholics.
I've read very little by them, but I know these books have helped others.
Try someone like John of the cross.
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Saints are best people to learn the faith from.
Go to local pregnancy resource center and u should find solid catholics.
I find it incredible the discussion about Islam when Deacon Harold Burke-Sivers just spoke on the radio on this subject today! Muslims do in fact own us in the fasting department but I will continue to pray they will come to know the one true Christ
PS- still hoping Dr. Kreeft will consider adopting me as one of his granddaughters 🤞🏼
Muslim fasting aka don't eat during the day and gorge yourself opulently after sunset. I suddenly don't feel so owned anymore ;)
@@lastnamefirstname850 Also can sleep all day, technically fulfill the fast, and just eat at night. The whole religion of Islam is a farce.
I didn't know who this mas is but as soon as he started speaking, I knew deep down I can learn a lot of things from this. So, I think I'll be watching the whole podcast.
I love Peter Kreeft (and Matt Fradd) to bits and I loved this episode so much. I just wish it was longer! But I do want to point out one thing, about the LotR movies, Prof. Kreeft is just objectively wrong. Peter Jackson never said they didn't film the scouring of the Shire for money reasons, in fact, they even put glimpses of it in the Mirror of Galadriel sequence as a homage. He explicitly stated in the Extended Edition director's commentary that it would have been impossible and way too exhausting for the audience to start up another storyline after the destruction of the Ring and I completely agree. It would have been insanity to film it exactly as it is in the book. As much as I love Matt's guests in general, I notice that most of them are very much "book people" who don't seem to really grasp the medium of cinema. I mean, A Man for All Seasons is a fine film but it's really more of a play. The Lord of the Rings films are masterpieces of cinematography and I have the impression that most of these intellectual types just don't appreciate that aspect: the grandiose filming style, the incredible music, the groundbreaking visual design, etcetera.
When you see these two gents on a video thumbnail, then you just know that you are in for a real treat!
Thursday’s loud laughs add so much to the podcasts LOL
Matt get to talk to one of his favourite person and i get to listen to my favourite duo. Thank 😂
I love this so much! 🥲 God bless you, Dr. Peter Kreeft!
"I don't want to watch another superhero movie ever" - Matt Fradd
My all time favorite wuestion Matt asked Dr Kreeft in a prior interview: “are YOU an Angel?” Dr Kreeft”you’ll never know.”
I love Dr. Peter Kreeft.
At the outset, I thought you said, "I'm alive" instead of "And we're live". Made me chuckle.
Can't get enough of this. I love Peter Kreeft. He somehow reminds me of my late grandfather.
I'm only 1 minute and 45 seconds into this and I'm already loving it
1:00:08 "Methods are ways of making a difficult thing easy. (...) But there is no method for trust, and there is no method for love. You just do it."
Great thought. Reminds me of John Paul II quote (homily in Koln in 1980) "You can't just live on trial, you can't just die on trial. You can't just love on a trial basis, you can't only accept a person on a trial basis and for a while." (I'm not sure if there's an official English translation)
" I want to hunt in Heaven." - Matt Fradd 😊
26:20 He was stealing that one from CSL.
If there was ever a man who fully accepted the antitheism (if not everything else) of Sartre and then the Theism of St. Augustine, it was CSL.
If anyone ever says "CSL never was a true Atheist" and points at Dawkins and company, well, no, he never was a true _New_ Atheist, but he certainly was a true _Sartrean_ one.
My favorite part of episodes is hearing Thursday laugh off-mic in the background. It's somehow really important for the atmosphere. Adds warmth. ❤
I used to listen to Howard Stern and what I enjoyed most was the authenticity of the banter in the studio.
I LOVE this man so much ❤
If there were a real-world, mondern-day Gandalf, it would be Dr. Peter Kreeft
The novel he mentioned about a boy who could heal and the world not handling it is Blessed Child by Ted Dekker. Unless there is another one just like it lol.
Ted Dekker is delightfully weird and makes me think… but I bet much of his stuff borders on too abstract. This one is one of the least weird of his books.
@@vinciblegaming6817 he also wrote a sequel to it called A Man Called Blessed, if you haven’t heard of it.
Speaking of poetry: The Hound of Heaven by Francis Thompson💓
I believe it was Cardinal Gibbons who said he owned the 100 best books and he just reads them over and over.
This discussion was another Excellent one !
Im reading one of his books. He is amazing.
I think the reason the state of death is permanent is because we no longer have to ability to make decisions. We are called to judgement and God knows the ultimate orientation of our soul either toward Him or against Him. God knows that given an infinite amount of choice that a given soul would either choose or reject Him. So if one dies in mortal sin, it is because that person would have ultimately rejected God, so that person is called to judgement in the appropriate state. Why create beings who would reject God? Because to have the gift of life and free will is better than not.
Or like angels choices are eternal after life and the choice at the moment of death when we pass from finitude to eternity, reverberates forever. I think of free agency as necessary part of Creation and that the Creation itself IS the participation of free agents. Otherwise what would be the point? God could just imagine in His Mind infinitely and there would be no need for us to exist. Creation IS Something finite emerging from infinite possibility and necessarily involves a Choice.
The mental image of dr kreeft facing off with a manatee holding a Bowie knife is EPIC!!!!!
Take care, professor
The eternity of hell...it was best described to me this way. You offended an infinite being. This requires an infinite payment to be just. We are finite beings, so the only equivalent to infinity for us is eternity. This is also an argument to the divinity of Christ, the infinity point, that is. If he didn't possess an infinite nature, how could he have made an infinite payment for our salvation?
I just came across your channel for the first time, I assume because I've watched a few videos including Dr. Kreeft before. Surprised to find out that this is going down in Steubenville, my hometown. Small world.
Wonderful conversation. Thank you both.
On animals…pets going to heaven…I am convinced that some pet souls are somewhat shaped by their proximity to their owner.
I have seen what happens when one of my pets got lost and it’s personality changed when it was with someone else.
Much like what happens to us as we align to the love of Christ, animals become ennobled as they develop a bond with a human.
My favorite living catholic interviewed by my 7th favorite living catholic
Yo what! I love Kreeft! He is responsible for strengthening my faith!!!
1:31:45 As I recall the words, she was saying _she would like to offer_ the King of Glory a lake of beer.
Not that I know Gaelic, but translations exist, like for Rop tú mo baile. I think you will have heard that one, but in English. Look it up.
Guys the Spotify episode is cut short by like an hour 😭😭😭
With all due respect to Dr. Kreeft, he's talking about the Jodoshu and Jodoshinshu branches of Japanese Buddhism. They are not heretics; their sect is consistent with broader Mahayana Buddhism. I was on the path to becoming a Jodoshinhsu priest before converting to Catholicism.
God Bless you gentlemen
45:15 Eustace Clarence Scrubb was his name (and he nearly deserved it).
When TLC came out with "No Scrubs" my first reaction to the title was "what's the connexion to Eustace" ...
Lol I'm not far enough into the video to get this reference, but I'm very intrigued.
@@stephencotter538 He pronounced the name "Stubb" instead of "Scrubb" ...
Everyone LOVES KREEFT!
I’m legit crying thinking about Matt’s thought experiment.😢
Did someone make a list of all the books and movies suggested?
This talk (among many other things) was so rich of good suggestions that a list would be awesome.
Praise God!
3:37 One problem I've encountered in Christianity is they start out saying you can't doubt reason itself and it's the foundation of all thought and all that. But then they backpeddle when they encounter reasoning that challenges Christianity and start saying reason is invalid and the human mind is untrustworthy. But to be honest I've heard them mainly from protestants. Like when Martin Luther said "if thy reason offend thee (meaning if it makes you doubt luthranism), pluck it out"
outrageous title😂
Dr. Kreeft just barely out of the top five from Matt's wife and four kids lmao
Always a treat!
I think the reason God gives us the option to refuse Him is because theosis or divinization is the point. One of the primary images of God in which we are made is a being with a conscious will. It doesn’t make sense to me that stripping us of His image would be the method of bringing us back to full communion with Himself. That initial image was good, we just abused that gift and chose to fall. Our free will used in a disordered way lead to our fall, so it stands to reason our free will would be involved in making amends for our fall. Obviously this is not to say we can will ourselves to heaven, we’re powerless on our own to do this. But what God did, through Christ, was reach down and offer us a hand to get back up and show us the way. But it’s on us to reach up and take His hand and stay on the path He laid out. Out of love, God freely wills our lives to us. He wants us to return that love and freely will our lives back to Him. Sure, He could certainly make it so that we couldn’t choose anything else, but I don’t believe God views us a merely possessions to collect. A loving relationship is not a one way street, and therefore our free will would be required to properly reciprocate the love we receive from Him.
As for the question of Hell and the Thomist idea of an unchanging state after death I think it’s a good logical argument, but one that doesn’t account for God allowing for things that don’t make sense to us. I would guess the train of thought is something along the lines of: for something to be eternal, it would have to lack entropy, and if it lacks entropy, it would be in an unchanging state. I think it logically tracks, but God can do God things like reverse entropy and raise the dead, or be an infinite being existing in a finite place and time simultaneously. So the unchanging state idea that you hear from Thomists seems to make sense to me, but I’m not willing to limit God to things I’m capable of making sense of.
Professor Kreeft oozes his love of Our Lord Christ from all of his pores ; incredibly " saintly " ; Amen !
As someone who can’t have gluten due to an allergy, people who can eat gluten but don’t, I don’t comprehend your thinking…
A spoobful of this conversation is worth hours of content elsewhere and more! What a conversation!