I just savored this entire conversation. Wonderful content not only about astro magic but how to mediate with the great forces, spirits, archetypes of life with your very soul as a reflection of the cosmos or cosmic soul. It is amazing, thank you!
Michael! Crazy to see you on the Modern Hermeticist!! Love this colab! I'm a practicing professional Hellenistic astrologer mage and a huge fan of the channel. Very familiar with Michaels work. Very cool so see the collaboration! Can't wait to listen! Thank you both in advance 🙏🏽
Very very interesting and I would like to add that our words, whether typed or not, create images. A thing Native American philosophy says is that movement equals time because without movement there would be no time. The first MoveMent was the beginning of time in this universe or dimension. In my personal opinion, imagination and the languages it produces is the only magic knowable to us. It is the only thing that can seemingly create something out of nothing and our imagination. For example, technology and the languages used to produce it. Religious language and the faith it produces. Legal language and the behaviors and entities it allows or prohibits from being produced. Scientific language and the medicine and death it creates. With our imagination, symbols and matter we are able to create almost anything. What other magic do you want? It’s both true and based on reality. No fiction required with this example of magic.
Move ment+mo ment=time. Time = tie me. Tie me in to the old age theory. I'm choose to connect with the circle theory and will thus, live through the evil XXX
Phenomenal discussion! I had to rewind and listen several times because Michael was saying things that expanded my understanding. “We are talismans” 🤯 Thank you Dan and Michael!
A very timely discussion. Much appreciated. Over on James Tabor channel he has been running a series by David Wray on early Gnostic astrological iconography which I've found fascinating. All of this is very new to me so I don't know where on the ladder of rigor his work lies but it's worth checking out. I'll take a look at Ofek's course. Thanks again.
Wow Dan. Phenomenal! I met Michael in 2018 at UAC Chicago and his lectures (The Role of Light In Astrology; The Hellenistic Doctrine of the Moon) were amazing. A very warm person as well. Michael's perspective in this podcast is very much where I'm also at (It's kind of freaking me out actually)! Gnosis is the key and, although I can be open to a talismanic approach, isn't the individual body the most obvious talisman? That's the basis of a natal chart... I'm unfortunately not going to be available for the upcoming course on March 17th but am definitely going to look into the self study material. Are you participating in the live course Dan?
Hey Ipsissimus, Thank you kindly for your support, and for your advice on the liquids over on Patreon. That's pretty cool that you've met Michael in the flesh. I have not yet since we live on different continents, but we've met at least a dozen or so times through video calls. Last year I helped Michael out by doing two of the more history-oriented lectures for his course (one lecture on the general history of ancient magic, and one on the textual history of the Picatrix), and I'll be doing that again this year while he handles the more practical side of things. I'm looking forward to it.
I haven't had an hour pass that quickly in a long time. Wonderful, beautiful conversation. Thank you so much, lovely gentlemen. Much love to you both 💞🙏
12:40 reminds me of the movie, Noah with Russell Crowe it’s as if the stars were always out it was almost like a twilight sky during the day, and they could still see the stars. I thought the cinematography was superb.
As a Vedic astrology proponent, I’m not gonna lie: I feel like I am going to have a lot of critiques of this. But still looking forward to listening to this.
Update: this was great. Excellent work. Also, have to say it again, but your encyclopedia Hermetica is still my favorite thing I have ever listened to. Truly a brilliant and incredible achievement.
I agree , the Ai wouldn't be sufficient in terms of the talismans because you need the soul and the will. The will and intent is key to these cosmic operations.
Fantastic information exchanged back and forth. Thank you gentlemen. I use the astrological alignments to collect different kinds of waters from the Heavens to the Earth. It's also a great time to use these transits and conjunctions to collect your herbs, your objects, and utilize those waters because they're so powerful. A lot of times most people can't afford the astrological talismans of gold and gemstone jewelry. But they certainly can afford to collect or buy the items to make their own talisman potions ...or collect/buy what they need to utilize in their spell casting during the transits, conjunts, moon phases... I also work to advocate for women and children of domestic violence, and people with disabilities. I utilize these astragal alignments to file documents let's say for example. Or set dates for court or strategy in exposing the abuser...etc...
"hitting the jackpot with ancient sources" - thats why im here, i think. there r a lot of word constructions many ppl use that make no sense to me. often use quotes n i want to "boil it down" to the "quintessence"...already existing b4 basically everything humans created: "fire"/"light" n "sphere" which is also a "circle" or "zero"/0. truly "mind blowing", if one thinks about it. feels like we r always circling back 2 the basics n that the (hive)Mind is congregating ad infinitum; the Youniverse is pulling a "Benjamin Button". anyway, shalOM/salAM/AMen/P.E.A.C.E. everyone.
So, an over emphasis on orthopraxy instead of idiopraxy or participatory practice. Edit: let me clarify, Atrell's comment from the picatrix would be participatory practice. Idiopraxy can be illustrated with a development in Wicca, where drawing down the sun or moon is no longer connected to the gender someone was assigned at birth.
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I just savored this entire conversation. Wonderful content not only about astro magic but how to mediate with the great forces, spirits, archetypes of life with your very soul as a reflection of the cosmos or cosmic soul. It is amazing, thank you!
Thanks Kathleen, glad you enjoyed the discussion.
Yes, yes, yes! 🎉 Feels like the holidays and this a beautiful present from you and the stars ✨🌠
Thk you! 🙏💜
Awesome listen TY🐺
I'm enthralled and thrilled for this episode and course! Astral Magic and Hermetic Astrology!
Michael! Crazy to see you on the Modern Hermeticist!! Love this colab! I'm a practicing professional Hellenistic astrologer mage and a huge fan of the channel. Very familiar with Michaels work. Very cool so see the collaboration! Can't wait to listen! Thank you both in advance 🙏🏽
Very very interesting and I would like to add that our words, whether typed or not, create images.
A thing Native American philosophy says is that movement equals time because without movement there would be no time. The first MoveMent was the beginning of time in this universe or dimension.
In my personal opinion, imagination and the languages it produces is the only magic knowable to us. It is the only thing that can seemingly create something out of nothing and our imagination.
For example, technology and the languages used to produce it.
Religious language and the faith it produces.
Legal language and the behaviors and entities it allows or prohibits from being produced.
Scientific language and the medicine and death it creates.
With our imagination, symbols and matter we are able to create almost anything.
What other magic do you want?
It’s both true and based on reality.
No fiction required with this example of magic.
What's the matter? Mother said to the child.
Move ment+mo ment=time. Time = tie me. Tie me in to the old age theory.
I'm choose to connect with the circle theory and will thus, live through the evil XXX
Was delighted to hear this conversation! I am very much looking forward to the course.
Thanks JD, I'll see you again soon.
Keep up the great work, Dan 👏
Thanks Jason
Great! Let it flow!
I enjoyed this. Thank you.
Well done! Now we’re starting to square the circle:)
Phenomenal discussion! I had to rewind and listen several times because Michael was saying things that expanded my understanding. “We are talismans” 🤯
Thank you Dan and Michael!
Thanks John 🙏
A very timely discussion. Much appreciated. Over on James Tabor channel he has been running a series by David Wray on early Gnostic astrological iconography which I've found fascinating. All of this is very new to me so I don't know where on the ladder of rigor his work lies but it's worth checking out. I'll take a look at Ofek's course. Thanks again.
Yes, I really like David Wray and totally agree about his recent videos!
Heck ya dan
Cholate, TH-cam tells me you're getting all my hearts. "Top commenter. Received one of the highest number of hearts from you."
@@TheModernHermeticist I'm honored truly
Wow Dan. Phenomenal!
I met Michael in 2018 at UAC Chicago and his lectures (The Role of Light In Astrology; The Hellenistic Doctrine of the Moon) were amazing. A very warm person as well.
Michael's perspective in this podcast is very much where I'm also at (It's kind of freaking me out actually)!
Gnosis is the key and, although I can be open to a talismanic approach, isn't the individual body the most obvious talisman? That's the basis of a natal chart...
I'm unfortunately not going to be available for the upcoming course on March 17th but am definitely going to look into the self study material. Are you participating in the live course Dan?
Hey Ipsissimus,
Thank you kindly for your support, and for your advice on the liquids over on Patreon. That's pretty cool that you've met Michael in the flesh. I have not yet since we live on different continents, but we've met at least a dozen or so times through video calls. Last year I helped Michael out by doing two of the more history-oriented lectures for his course (one lecture on the general history of ancient magic, and one on the textual history of the Picatrix), and I'll be doing that again this year while he handles the more practical side of things. I'm looking forward to it.
Great guest and a fascinating subject, I'm sure I'll revisit this one.
Thank you so much
Wow Gezz! Thanks Dan & Michael. 💫
Always enjoy your videos.
I haven't had an hour pass that quickly in a long time.
Wonderful, beautiful conversation.
Thank you so much, lovely gentlemen.
Much love to you both 💞🙏
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As always Excellent discussion...
Fabulous
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Really enjoyed that this evening 🙏
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Very insightful,this was a treat..thank you
Many blessings for these deep insights
Very interesting. Another very educational and useful video. This channel is such a beautiful fountainhead.
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GREAAAAT TALK!!
Thank you for your work!
fantastic discussion, thank you!
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12:40 reminds me of the movie, Noah with Russell Crowe it’s as if the stars were always out it was almost like a twilight sky during the day, and they could still see the stars. I thought the cinematography was superb.
As a Vedic astrology proponent, I’m not gonna lie: I feel like I am going to have a lot of critiques of this. But still looking forward to listening to this.
Update: this was great. Excellent work. Also, have to say it again, but your encyclopedia Hermetica is still my favorite thing I have ever listened to. Truly a brilliant and incredible achievement.
I agree , the Ai wouldn't be sufficient in terms of the talismans because you need the soul and the will. The will and intent is key to these cosmic operations.
May the algogods be kind to you!
Fantastic information exchanged back and forth. Thank you gentlemen.
I use the astrological alignments to collect different kinds of waters from the Heavens to the Earth.
It's also a great time to use these transits and conjunctions to collect your herbs, your objects, and utilize those waters because they're so powerful.
A lot of times most people can't afford the astrological talismans of gold and gemstone jewelry.
But they certainly can afford to collect or buy the items to make their own talisman potions ...or collect/buy what they need to utilize in their spell casting during the transits, conjunts, moon phases...
I also work to advocate for women and children of domestic violence, and people with disabilities. I utilize these astragal alignments to file documents let's say for example. Or set dates for court or strategy in exposing the abuser...etc...
Very mysteriously mystic.
Whenever you upload a video, a new mage gets a wand!
"hitting the jackpot with ancient sources" - thats why im here, i think. there r a lot of word constructions many ppl use that make no sense to me. often use quotes n i want to "boil it down" to the "quintessence"...already existing b4 basically everything humans created: "fire"/"light" n "sphere" which is also a "circle" or "zero"/0. truly "mind blowing", if one thinks about it. feels like we r always circling back 2 the basics n that the (hive)Mind is congregating ad infinitum; the Youniverse is pulling a "Benjamin Button". anyway, shalOM/salAM/AMen/P.E.A.C.E. everyone.
Any book to recommend thathas a lot of practical and talismanic magic ??
Picatrix, Ficino's Three Books on Life, Agrippa's Three Books on Occult Philosophy, De Imaginibus are good for starters.
An unselfish ecstaticsim seems to open doors...Thank You...
So, an over emphasis on orthopraxy instead of idiopraxy or participatory practice.
Edit: let me clarify, Atrell's comment from the picatrix would be participatory practice. Idiopraxy can be illustrated with a development in Wicca, where drawing down the sun or moon is no longer connected to the gender someone was assigned at birth.
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Thank you!