I was playing this game in a JCB JS330 earlier today. Great fun when you are sat practically laying flat in the cab sliding backwards ..... We beat the hill eventually....
First of all, I know the dozer operator was keeping his blade low incase he starting slipping backward, he could dig it in and stop himself. That is good, but, when you realize you are slipping in the mud, you back out of the way and let the excavator scrape out the top couple inches of mud where each track will travel. And for the excavator, unless you have a rock or tree stump to grab onto, you push yourself up the hill, not pull, because when you put that bucket in the ground in front of you, you are taking too much weight off the tracks for good traction. Lastly, some people suggested going up the hill on a 45 degree angle or sideways....wrong! When you put tracks on mud or ice sideways, the tracks act like sled runners and when you get sliding down the slope on a dozer or excavator, you stand a good chance of flipping the machine and having a real bad day. Fifty one years experience operating dozers, loaders, and excavators. I should know something.
He was also doing it to try and gather more traction by moving the wight forward more notice he moves it up and down a few times real fast it helps sometimes
I, for one am impressed. Many of the comments here are of people who really don't know what they are talking about. That ground is slippery than all get out! The trees drop their forage and make just one slippery mess all over the place! Would I have done things differently? yes, but which operator wouldn't have? And I wasn't there so I don't know the whole extent of the terrain. Kuddos to the two getting out!
@Matthew Hoopes you're fucking stupid, apparently you've never operated either piece of equipment. Momentum isn't going to help either of these machines that move at 9mph max. You're not a pipeliner and I can tell that 😂😂
It might not have been possible at the very bottom, but the guy in the dozer should zig and zag and he would have gotten up that hill in half the time. The guy in the Kobelco excavator got really creative to get up the hill. That bucket is a lifesaver. Lots of experience there.
Using the pull method on the excavator at each return of the bucket towards the cab he should rotate his tracks 45 degrees before letting the grip on the bucket go so tracks can dig in just enough to hold his place and not to much to risk a tip over depending on the incline. then when he extends his bucket out for another pull straighten the tracks and repeat the method. this has always worked great for my father and i working in the bush.
Correct...its really easy... its the same on ice and snow too,like an sled. Where I live there is snow 7 months a year so I often go sideways. You are not so lost,common sense is the most important tool we have in this buisness...and you got some of that:)
I always hated mud in winter, I drove the big Terex dump truck, but was delegated with taking the sharp shooter shovel to clean the dozier under carriage at the end of the day, mud tends to freeze on the rollers overnight and limit movement, wearing them out. Our trackhoe's had wide tracks on them, I've seen them practically float across an area that was 16' of back fill, my big truck would start sinking if I didn't drive fast across it.
Question re digger operator: would it have been better for him to 'push' himself up with his boom and bucket, or 'pull', as he did most of the time? My operator mate reckoned push was both more effective - and safer.
I suppose they do, funny you tell me this when I have not once questioned it. I've not been on hills with equipment, middle TN is flat, but I've been in mud, hated cleaning the tracks out at the end of the day so it would not freeze and mess up the undercarriage the next morning.
Both done a good job, I been a long time operator. I can tell you at 8:25 you just about lost it , it started raring up and you had the boom extended, you throttled down and tracks sit back down, I can tell you sitting in the seat that would have dropped my stomach just a little. Thanks for posting.
Actually, most dozers from the 80's and up are totally independent in drives. Most newer dozers are hydrostatic drive and steer/operate in a similar fashion to a stick steer lawnmower. Not only is there no diff lock you have a totally separate drive for each track,
I know I am about 8 years late, but I am watching this for the first time. Thanks for making that clear. I was wondering why the tracks were spinning at different rates and one spinning while the other was still, at times. Being locked together, along with some more aggressive cleats, would have helped a lot, especially if the mud would release from the tracks.
Those tracks look pretty smooth and flat. Most of the ones I usually see on dozers and track hoe's have some type of prominent raised tread ribs for better traction, like on an army tank.
I have taken a D9 straight up hills like this right after rain. Them tracks must have been worn down badly. The guy on the excavator was toying with disaster though.. Even if you are good enough to feel the balance and know you won't flip, it is still best to not take the chance on such an expensive piece of equipment. Keep the arm to the rear and continue pushing your way up.
Dozers will climb slopes that look impossible, and scary, due to their weight,tracks,steady power,so I dunno what happened other than slip differential,and rocky mud but once he makes it to the top he can make the hill...less hilly LOL
You always know a good operator on how well they get a digger up a steep bank first thing my boss does to a new start is put them in a 10 ton and say theres a 45 degree bank get it up it dozer operator could have done a better job though
There is so much written here, but no one understood that if the bulldozer turns around, it will calmly drive into this climb in reverse. I am sure and I know because I have seen it in practice.
I drive a 870 which is a bit bigger then that lol . Sorry for the bad joke to those who get it . (Drive) had to do it . Needs a tad more experience and just a tad more experience Haha. We all started clawing up a hill with no idea what the heck we were doing lol . Wanted to shout out to all the OPERATORS . We are 2 percent of the public. We all stick together. Run hard and faker till ya maker boys''''' and gals ......
just that the top soil is soft thats why there is no grip on the track both operators are experience. its not dangerous if done correctly and thats the way to do it
i see a few mistakes here blade needs to be lower to keep traction on the front of the tracks it sounds like its in second gear it needs to be in first and catching the blade on the ground while trying to go forward i know it helps from sliding back but it isnt helping get em up that hill at all forward lol i get its sloppy wet ive been there but the dozer digs tracks trying to get up hills like that in second and that makes it sloppier so mistakes are bad news
Idk why people saying he could did anything different ain't like he had many options it's strait shot on a slippery slope idc how long you been operating one of these if it ain't going to go it's just not going. You just take it the best way u can to get the job done.
I would like to clearify a fact of physics about the excavator and weather or not the operator should reach behind him or in front, The logic for reaching behind is so you dont take weight of the tracks decreasing pressure. In actuality its a wash. It doesnt matter as for as weight distribution if your over the back or the front, either way weight comes off the side your pulling or pushing from and increases to the rear of the machine. I have been running excavators for over twenty years and in all applications from pipe lining to highway and civil development. I have taken excavators up 1/1 slopes, have sat and operated on 1 1/2-1 slopes, basically I am very comfortable on steep slopes. I always pull myself up since the two techniques are a wash its best for safety and control to see and watch where your going. In fact pipe liners are the only bunch I know of that turn around and push them selves up the slope and sorry to say even though they are the best paid (which is due to politics subsidies) they are typically the least qualified and skilled.
maybe its because the forward drive is stronger than the reverse drive ? as a disclaimer I dont know anything about heavy machinery like this, so I wouldnt know the real answer...
Same as if you take a skid steer up a steep slope with a load on the bucket backwards. Eventually all of your weight goes to the front, and the surface area of the tracks actually on the ground decreases as you're trying to go up the hill, everything goes to the front.
me personally i would of pushed the mud to the side going up and down to compact the new dry matterial and at the same time to readjust my angle so when i go back up to push the mud to the sides . both would of made it up there with less mudd and a compacted subgrade.
Yeah, I noticed the right track wasn't doing as much work as the left, that hill has pushed it closer to an overhaul tho, I can bet the fluid was damn near boiling when he crossed the peak of that hill.
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I was playing this game in a JCB JS330 earlier today. Great fun when you are sat practically laying flat in the cab sliding backwards .....
We beat the hill eventually....
Wow, talk about the slippery slope. Good job! Looked fun.
I've seen catskinners back up steep hills. Don't know if that would have helped. Great job!
Coulda strolled right up the hill if they woulda just let a little air out the tracks.
Air out of the tracks ? WTF
This comment made my evening! Well done.
@@derickshalo384 well, at least one person got it, lol.
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You mean grease! :)
First of all, I know the dozer operator was keeping his blade low incase he starting slipping backward, he could dig it in and stop himself. That is good, but, when you realize you are slipping in the mud, you back out of the way and let the excavator scrape out the top couple inches of mud where each track will travel. And for the excavator, unless you have a rock or tree stump to grab onto, you push yourself up the hill, not pull, because when you put that bucket in the ground in front of you, you are taking too much weight off the tracks for good traction. Lastly, some people suggested going up the hill on a 45 degree angle or sideways....wrong! When you put tracks on mud or ice sideways, the tracks act like sled runners and when you get sliding down the slope on a dozer or excavator, you stand a good chance of flipping the machine and having a real bad day. Fifty one years experience operating dozers, loaders, and excavators. I should know something.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge sir
This is what I wanna do when I grow up I know how to use excavator sort of my dad taught me a lot of stuff before he passed
Rick Tanguay u r right
Well stated.
He was also doing it to try and gather more traction by moving the wight forward more notice he moves it up and down a few times real fast it helps sometimes
for some reason,this reminds me of my childhood days
I love excavators I dreamed of being a construction worker when I grow up
I, for one am impressed. Many of the comments here are of people who really don't know what they are talking about. That ground is slippery than all get out! The trees drop their forage and make just one slippery mess all over the place! Would I have done things differently? yes, but which operator wouldn't have? And I wasn't there so I don't know the whole extent of the terrain. Kuddos to the two getting out!
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@Matthew Hoopes you're fucking stupid, apparently you've never operated either piece of equipment. Momentum isn't going to help either of these machines that move at 9mph max. You're not a pipeliner and I can tell that 😂😂
Drop blade and backdrag.... going up further each time. When you get to top turn around and dry slope up
One of Elf & Safety's sillier ideas is a reversing bleeper on a 360
Okay Thank you so much.
I need Bulldozer CAT D8T
Good video !
Very good help by the excavator for the dozer. Very very good driving ! It's dangerous !!!!
That Kobelco is a sure useful stuff
really amazing.
Je to velice náročná práce a nebezpečná, to je dnes technika na úrovni :-)
0:19 Teasing the bull with hay at the top......thats just cold lol
That's what the old timers called "Skinning Equipment" WELL DONE!
It might not have been possible at the very bottom, but the guy in the dozer should zig and zag and he would have gotten up that hill in half the time.
The guy in the Kobelco excavator got really creative to get up the hill. That bucket is a lifesaver. Lots of experience there.
Mr. Slate would be proud. :-). Great vid.
So this is that "Slippery Slope" I've heard so much about...
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Wonder what the converter temp is on the Big D-6?????
What are you thinking ?????? what is harder on the finals pushing 5 yards all day long or climbing a little muddy hill
Using the pull method on the excavator at each return of the bucket towards the cab he should rotate his tracks 45 degrees before letting the grip on the bucket go so tracks can dig in just enough to hold his place and not to much to risk a tip over depending on the incline. then when he extends his bucket out for another pull straighten the tracks and repeat the method. this has always worked great for my father and i working in the bush.
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Bush?
ridiculously skilled operators and brave management
Good Job, nice Video!
That first grade was STEEP. Crazy. Interesting to watch
Correct...its really easy... its the same on ice and snow too,like an sled. Where I live there is snow 7 months a year so I often go sideways. You are not so lost,common sense is the most important tool we have in this buisness...and you got some of that:)
Got to love working in the mud and slop , where was this at ? they are putting in pipe line near my farm
The power of CAT propels you!!
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That was cool.
I always hated mud in winter, I drove the big Terex dump truck, but was delegated with taking the sharp shooter shovel to clean the dozier under carriage at the end of the day, mud tends to freeze on the rollers overnight and limit movement, wearing them out. Our trackhoe's had wide tracks on them, I've seen them practically float across an area that was 16' of back fill, my big truck would start sinking if I didn't drive fast across it.
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I like heavy equipment. The operator is a very good skill. Very good engine sound. Thank you from Japan.
You're welcome. Glad you enjoyed it!
the question was already awnsered but thanks though, its always good to learn something new.
Question re digger operator: would it have been better for him to 'push' himself up with his boom and bucket, or 'pull', as he did most of the time? My operator mate reckoned push was both more effective - and safer.
couldnt the dozer have hooked onto the hook on the bucket and finish pulling the thing up the hill?
That takes some real courage and skill to pull that off
what should they do?
I suppose they do, funny you tell me this when I have not once questioned it.
I've not been on hills with equipment, middle TN is flat, but I've been in mud, hated cleaning the tracks out at the end of the day so it would not freeze and mess up the undercarriage the next morning.
Crain IN.?
thanks for the clarification, I suspected as much as it would be realy strange for a bulldozer to not have top notch offroad capability.
and the temp gauge for the poor d6 converter screamed HOW hot at the top?
you know it can rain for days on end in many places? I dont know were this is but it does not look like a dry forest.
Both done a good job, I been a long time operator. I can tell you at 8:25 you just about lost it , it started raring up and you had the boom extended, you throttled down and tracks sit back down, I can tell you sitting in the seat that would have dropped my stomach just a little. Thanks for posting.
Hello, great video, good driver, thank you for sharing
Thanks!
smart driver.I love it
Mega Machine Cam you mean operator?
are those tracks or slicks?
wher's this?..
Nice vid and good job at getting up there, well done.
that every man who works with the excavator must know!
.....why do I find this so fascinating to watch
been there...it sucks,these guys do a good job.
LOL Those tracks are about like a pair of smooth jaw Chanel-locks.
Never thought or reversing ?
The blade weighs too much, the heavier end needs to be in front.
it got nothing to do with driver or the machine. both are very good operator
First yellow Kobelco I've seen. Where is this? They're all that green/blue whatever colour here.
Actually, most dozers from the 80's and up are totally independent in drives. Most newer dozers are hydrostatic drive and steer/operate in a similar fashion to a stick steer lawnmower. Not only is there no diff lock you have a totally separate drive for each track,
I know I am about 8 years late, but I am watching this for the first time. Thanks for making that clear. I was wondering why the tracks were spinning at different rates and one spinning while the other was still, at times. Being locked together, along with some more aggressive cleats, would have helped a lot, especially if the mud would release from the tracks.
That reminds me a lot about life.
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I blame the liberals
Good job
Good operator
that what I thought, also easy to roll over if you slide sideways I think
Those tracks look pretty smooth and flat. Most of the ones I usually see on dozers and track hoe's have some type of prominent raised tread ribs for better traction, like on an army tank.
I have taken a D9 straight up hills like this right after rain. Them tracks must have been worn down badly. The guy on the excavator was toying with disaster though.. Even if you are good enough to feel the balance and know you won't flip, it is still best to not take the chance on such an expensive piece of equipment. Keep the arm to the rear and continue pushing your way up.
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+Vague Memory d9 = d6?? also all soil is the same. got it
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Not much cleating left on those tracks. Maybe time for a new set.
They're called grousers
An English built JCB would fly up there.
Aww, country fights, how cute!
Then we have to fly a mechanic in to fix it before it could get back down.. lol I’m just teasing mate.
Why the hell does he keep dropping the blade?
I would be trying to do tricks with the excavator, which is likely why no one would let me behind the wheel. Nice job guys...
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Why did it take for attempts before they decided to work as a team
Good luck
lol,a lot of youtube experts here....
I know this type of hills can be tricky.
nice driving
just a thought: one or the other, may be pins and bushings, / the rails with pads, or buy the
grousers and weld them on your self.;
highly skilled operators and brave.
Good job
Lux like waldorf maryland!!
Where is this?
"Shit! I must go down again, I forgot my lunch in the car ..."
Dozers will climb slopes that look impossible, and scary, due to their weight,tracks,steady power,so I dunno what happened other than slip differential,and rocky mud but once he makes it to the top he can make the hill...less hilly LOL
You always know a good operator on how well they get a digger up a steep bank first thing my boss does to a new start is put them in a 10 ton and say theres a 45 degree bank get it up it dozer operator could have done a better job though
WestIsBest ..your boss just has a 45 degree slope, just stashed in his back pocket. Get off of your mommy's computer, rookie.
There is so much written here, but no one understood that if the bulldozer turns around, it will calmly drive into this climb in reverse. I am sure and I know because I have seen it in practice.
I drive a 870 which is a bit bigger then that lol . Sorry for the bad joke to those who get it . (Drive) had to do it . Needs a tad more experience and just a tad more experience Haha. We all started clawing up a hill with no idea what the heck we were doing lol . Wanted to shout out to all the OPERATORS . We are 2 percent of the public. We all stick together. Run hard and faker till ya maker boys''''' and gals ......
Faker till ya maker bud .
damn that sucks I have had this problem but the slopes I was on was only 200 feet top to bottom lol
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Working on hight tention lines had this problem alot id of let it dry out for a day or 2 mud sucks
just that the top soil is soft thats why there is no grip on the track both operators are experience. its not dangerous if done correctly and thats the way to do it
i see a few mistakes here blade needs to be lower to keep traction on the front of the tracks it sounds like its in second gear it needs to be in first and catching the blade on the ground while trying to go forward i know it helps from sliding back but it isnt helping get em up that hill at all forward lol i get its sloppy wet ive been there but the dozer digs tracks trying to get up hills like that in second and that makes it sloppier so mistakes are bad news
yeah its called watching what your doing .....hmmmm
Idk why people saying he could did anything different ain't like he had many options it's strait shot on a slippery slope idc how long you been operating one of these if it ain't going to go it's just not going. You just take it the best way u can to get the job done.
The video doesn't do that hill justice. That son of a gun is pretty dang steep! Nice video, buddy.
Thanks!
this guys are some of the most imaginative drivers i've known!
The treads for both machines were not designed for soft mud and climbing, esp the excavator.
If it's really wet grousers don't matter
Really good job it was a joy to watch. gotta love the hatters
yes every loves people who wear hats
You should come to upstate ny where we deal with this everyday.
like in going up sideways instead of straight up, zigzagging from left to right and back to get to the top.
not enough grousers on dozer pads, corked tracks would help too
I would like to clearify a fact of physics about the excavator and weather or not the operator should reach behind him or in front, The logic for reaching behind is so you dont take weight of the tracks decreasing pressure. In actuality its a wash. It doesnt matter as for as weight distribution if your over the back or the front, either way weight comes off the side your pulling or pushing from and increases to the rear of the machine. I have been running excavators for over twenty years and in all applications from pipe lining to highway and civil development. I have taken excavators up 1/1 slopes, have sat and operated on 1 1/2-1 slopes, basically I am very comfortable on steep slopes. I always pull myself up since the two techniques are a wash its best for safety and control to see and watch where your going. In fact pipe liners are the only bunch I know of that turn around and push them selves up the slope and sorry to say even though they are the best paid (which is due to politics subsidies) they are typically the least qualified and skilled.
Why not back up so you can stop with the blade + better weight balance?
maybe its because the forward drive is stronger than the reverse drive ? as a disclaimer I dont know anything about heavy machinery like this, so I wouldnt know the real answer...
Same as if you take a skid steer up a steep slope with a load on the bucket backwards. Eventually all of your weight goes to the front, and the surface area of the tracks actually on the ground decreases as you're trying to go up the hill, everything goes to the front.
me personally i would of pushed the mud to the side going up and down to compact the new dry matterial and at the same time to readjust my angle so when i go back up to push the mud to the sides . both would of made it up there with less mudd and a compacted subgrade.
Ser colocar troncos de árvores de madeira de lei, soube que uma beleza...!!!!
Yeah, I noticed the right track wasn't doing as much work as the left, that hill has pushed it closer to an overhaul tho, I can bet the fluid was damn near boiling when he crossed the peak of that hill.
good videos
That looks like the pipeline over at Deavertown .