Busting A Beaver Dam! Mini Bobcat Excavator Mud Stuck Water Creek

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 พ.ค. 2015
  • Working in the muck to break a beaver dam and try to dry out the bottom to build a levee!
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  • @royhoco5748
    @royhoco5748 8 ปีที่แล้ว +235

    if you leave the machine overnight the beavers will use it to rebuild their dam

    • @ottoskorzeny7984
      @ottoskorzeny7984 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      clever beavers are the best beavers

    • @SuperSnowbitch
      @SuperSnowbitch 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      roy hoco P

    • @colinstead8748
      @colinstead8748 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Them poor little beavers don't need NO machine and they twice the job 🐾🏞

    • @BobbyTucker
      @BobbyTucker 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's the least they could do after tearing down their old dam. lol.

    • @charlesf6247
      @charlesf6247 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zzztubazzz beavers cause damage to the local eco system by causing flooding and stopping fish migration and water flow so other animals can survive

  • @Aramis419
    @Aramis419 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is incredibly satisfying to watch. My cousin has a creek on his property and around Thanksgiving we’ll partially block it off so a shallow pond will form that’ll usually freeze by Christmas, and all the kids can go skating on it all winter. Come the spring thaw, it’s awesome breaking the dam and watching the water drain out.

  • @matteliano454
    @matteliano454 8 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    The beaver is watching from across his pond..."You son of a bitch !"

  • @dionysus122
    @dionysus122 8 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    That beaver is going to come back from vacation and be like "What the fuck happened here?!?!"

    • @carstenhansen5757
      @carstenhansen5757 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      It was more like, DAM!

    • @usereagle
      @usereagle 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Major Tom lol

    • @rogerhass6227
      @rogerhass6227 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also the beaver will rebuild the dam as well. A perfectly natural thing that they do.

    • @mikecooper7816
      @mikecooper7816 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He will come back and say shit I left the gas on haha

  • @maiseydoodle
    @maiseydoodle 7 ปีที่แล้ว +190

    The Beavers will have it rebuilt in about 2 weeks.

    • @mikesiegle3736
      @mikesiegle3736 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      maiseydoodle more like 1 12 hour day

    • @EasternExplorer
      @EasternExplorer 7 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Thats why you trap/shoot them first. I prefer shooting them. They constantly flood our roads out.

    • @scrappyclappedoutfoxbody4174
      @scrappyclappedoutfoxbody4174 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      We just got a beaver today he’s gona be pretty on the wall

    • @zemtek420
      @zemtek420 6 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      more like us humans keep building roads in their habitat. Beaver are having a hard enough time as is.

    • @timgear9892
      @timgear9892 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Show me a beaver paying property taxes. To compare them with humans is insanity.

  • @gojewla
    @gojewla 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Good thing for the beavers that their supplies for rebuilding are conveniently located nearby.

  • @davyjones2476
    @davyjones2476 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The day man learns how to coexist with nature will be the day humanity is restored

  • @tonyprice5726
    @tonyprice5726 7 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Neatly stacked for next years beaver

  • @sardu55
    @sardu55 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Nice touch, digging very deep along the spine of the dam so they'll have twice the work just to level the base later on.

  • @tyler12ddm
    @tyler12ddm 8 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    you're pretty handy on that machine. Definitely working smarter not harder!

    • @Kburd-wr6dq
      @Kburd-wr6dq 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      It takes skill

    • @chrismoyler
      @chrismoyler 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Really excellent operator
      Great skill here!

  • @NimishP
    @NimishP 8 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    In Alberta, Canada, Professional Engineer's stamp has a beaver in the center. They are civil engineers.

  • @kurisu7885
    @kurisu7885 4 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    I best Post 10 sometimes wishes he had one of these.

    • @fabienp3668
      @fabienp3668 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      post 10 fan 👍

    • @aardhond
      @aardhond 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@fabienp3668 that guy needs a fanclub lol

    • @rexanderson5458
      @rexanderson5458 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Post 10 does unlawful dumping when he moves debris onto City or County property. It's also trespass because that property isn't his. When he goes to ponds, that's NOT his property. If he gets injured, the property owner is responsible for injuries. He has been notified on t.v. not to do this. The City can contact him. He STILL does it but not on TH-cam like before. He OBVIOUSLY isn't working. He's out there at night. Snakes are around. He recently moved straw onto the grass from the gutter when he cleared a gutter. That's unlawful dumping. Gutters are City or County property.

    • @Frankybroadcast
      @Frankybroadcast 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rexanderson5458 city property belongs to taxpayers.

    • @XRTRACING
      @XRTRACING ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rexanderson5458 yet he’s still doing more in one video than you probably do all year. Dumping off compostable material?? Come on…

  • @raazs35
    @raazs35 8 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    This is quite relaxing to watch this !!

  • @javacrucian
    @javacrucian 8 ปีที่แล้ว +203

    Anyone else want to control the excavator with their mouse? Somebody needs to create a first person digger game.

    • @Sackmatters
      @Sackmatters 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      +javacrucian yes please.

    • @Sackmatters
      @Sackmatters 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      +javacrucian even though im in heavy equipment school.

    • @mitchell02inorting
      @mitchell02inorting 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      javacrucian there's some but there completed ass

    • @davidnaylor9398
      @davidnaylor9398 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sack attempt ho,gunboats

    • @Hanamil24
      @Hanamil24 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      fist person digger game... gold rush video game.. don't care about getting gold in the game just like to dig with the excavator

  • @iamrichrocker
    @iamrichrocker 5 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    that was Mr.Beaver's lawyer calling at 3:44...

    • @Qgal5kap123
      @Qgal5kap123 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I see you just assumed the gender of the beaver there...... :-P

    • @vincent7520
      @vincent7520 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I picked up my own phone to answer !…

    • @robertbaggette4652
      @robertbaggette4652 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      iamrichrocker 😇

  • @wendyeesue
    @wendyeesue 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent work done guys. its 2018 almost 2019 for me viewing this sure hope things are better for ya now after all that work, though it didn't look like a lot of hard work, all the machines did it for you, haha.. thanks for making this video

  • @Maine_Railfan
    @Maine_Railfan 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Those little guys can plug up a stream in no time!

  • @se4821
    @se4821 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I guess you don’t know how much good the beavers work does for the environment

    • @ChrisGilliamOffGrid
      @ChrisGilliamOffGrid 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      se4821 I guess you've never owned property with beavers on it...

    • @wefukthenwo
      @wefukthenwo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Like flooding the land, drowning the forests?

    • @donlawn524
      @donlawn524 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Without trappers like myself you wouldn't have a highway or road to get to work on top of that even a railway beavers are one of if not the most destructive / land changing animal so.... it's all okay until they fuck up where you live ?? Ps bet you'd call me in a heart beat if that happened KILL THE BASTARDS u and your kind are all the same ignorant

  • @billcoley8520
    @billcoley8520 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lots of people do not realize that on the pond side of the beaver dam , it’s slopped very far out into the pond. That allows the dam to be rebuilt very fast. They simply start pushing mud back in the hole after the water slows down

  • @deadpoolstrikesagain3914
    @deadpoolstrikesagain3914 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is by .far the most satisfying clean up u .. u actually removed alot more of the wood than I expected ..nice job!!

  • @mikedowland9949
    @mikedowland9949 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I’m always amazed at just how much work the beavers put in to building these dams, shame there such a nuisance!

  • @T3mpestwulf617
    @T3mpestwulf617 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Ya know it's the simple things like watching the deconstruction of a beaver dam that makes me happy sometimes.

  • @SilentSavage08
    @SilentSavage08 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beavers are smarter than the guy destroying the dam.

  • @RoyalDoyle845
    @RoyalDoyle845 8 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    I'm more interested in the video of how you got there at this point.

    • @ocsteved
      @ocsteved 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Just where d'ya think all the water is going?

  • @hughvane
    @hughvane 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love watching those excavators in the hands of an expert operator.

  • @robertoleeva985
    @robertoleeva985 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's amazing, you need to heavy duty machine to undo what a little tiny animal has created. !!!

  • @danielmoulton4117
    @danielmoulton4117 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wish someone would explain why you all get so much enjoyment watching the destruction of one of natures most beautiful and useful creations. Wetlands make severe weather events less destructive by slowing runoff during rainy weather and storing that water for dryer times going forward. GROW UP!!

  • @nevyen149
    @nevyen149 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why? The beavers had built a nice little pond. Bet they rebuilt it almost overnight, making the exercise a big waste of time.

  • @davidchristensen6908
    @davidchristensen6908 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The machine is nice for sure. It is just a small excavator. What the machine does is determine by who is operating it. Clearly this little excavator was being operated by a very skilled operator. No jerky all smooth and fluid movements. As for the Beavers if you don’t live in the area and know about beavers and what is required to remove a beaver damn just be quite. Just because a beaver can dam up a water way does not mean he gets too. In the USA and Canada we have done very well in letting beavers reconstruct waterways but it still require control. Nice video thanks.

    • @alexandervitodebellis7128
      @alexandervitodebellis7128 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      TH-cam expert shut the fuck up and watch stop trying to prove something. Narcissist

  • @azharkacak1978
    @azharkacak1978 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    "dam you!" said those beavers.

  • @dannymcmullensr4912
    @dannymcmullensr4912 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    good job dang big log's

  • @MemesnShet
    @MemesnShet 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Operating one of these must feel like having a giant superman arm

    • @123TauruZ321
      @123TauruZ321 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      More like a giant superman dick

  • @jsoo67
    @jsoo67 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Mr. Beaver said, "Damn, Man!" I made that one all by myself and I stand up when I pee, like a big boy.

  • @ericvondumb2838
    @ericvondumb2838 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Look at the size of those logs. Must be some dam big beavers.

  • @rustynail3159
    @rustynail3159 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    when the beaver came home to find his work destroyed he was probably like , damn it !

  • @DavidRojasElbirt
    @DavidRojasElbirt 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Is there a way to use the beavers' dams favorably for your needs instead of destroying them? I mean, it's free intensive specialized labor. Is it possible to outsmart the beavers and choose the sight where a dam in your property would be useful?

  • @vidili68
    @vidili68 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi there
    Good job
    Good for compost 👍👍👍👍
    Have a good day

  • @jaylen5233
    @jaylen5233 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Saw this in my recommendations and clicked it. In hope thatd there would be alot of post 10 comments. There are surprisingly not that many at all. Just alot of beaver jokes.😂😂

  • @MrSapper21
    @MrSapper21 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    3:41 "...yep, just busting up a beaver dam"

  • @daviddussing1243
    @daviddussing1243 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where does the water go once the braver dam is demolished. Would like to see some u tube on that aspect. Thank you!!

    • @Adiscretefirm
      @Adiscretefirm 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Downstream, like it did before the stream was dammed and the pond formed.

  • @litiviousspartus4611
    @litiviousspartus4611 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Are the Beavers not supposed to have a home?

  • @daleolson3506
    @daleolson3506 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Put up a sign. No dam building then fine them. Lol

  • @chrisg4006
    @chrisg4006 ปีที่แล้ว

    i like your style dude

  • @camel1945
    @camel1945 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi amazing you save the forest!! Thanks!

  • @oldstudbuck3583
    @oldstudbuck3583 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bobcat in the feline family so are cougars. Cougars and beaver two of life’s treasures.

  • @jimmydent1
    @jimmydent1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can't stop the beaver 😂

  • @DickPoleman
    @DickPoleman 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    that operator has mad skills.....

    • @rickreich5520
      @rickreich5520 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jonathan Rush I agree. Unless it was sped up he’s getting er done. Now he needs to alleviate it downstream. Upstate ny they throw your ass in jail for doing that shit.

    • @Matterhorny
      @Matterhorny 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dam mad

  • @terrivathis7135
    @terrivathis7135 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you remove the beavers before hand?

  • @CyclingSJH
    @CyclingSJH 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    WHY is this video so satisfying to watch?!?!?!

  • @garymccarver5006
    @garymccarver5006 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And the beavers will be rebuilding by next daylight. They basically can't be discouraged by merely tearing out the dam.

  • @jimlepeu577
    @jimlepeu577 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    All left on the side - I bet the beaver was quite delighted to have a Home Depot close by lol

  • @whisperingoutdoors
    @whisperingoutdoors 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It's amazing how a bunch of beavers made that damn...they weigh at the most 50 lbs and it takes a piece of heavy equipment to remove it! It's something ain't it!

  • @PVBJR
    @PVBJR 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I enjoyed watching that...thanks for sharing.

  • @rayleeeastlick3989
    @rayleeeastlick3989 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Klamath falls Oregon is watching I find this very interesting....

  • @cpcattin
    @cpcattin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello, I’m a beaver from the county environmental protection department. The beavers have filed an action claiming homesteading possession of this lodge under the 1920 Fraternal Lodge Agreement. And remember, only you can prevent beavers !

  • @sinistar426
    @sinistar426 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So why wouldnt the beaver just use the huge pile you made as material to rebuild the dam with?

  • @richierich3377
    @richierich3377 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why do I like watching the his stuff

  • @timtom7753
    @timtom7753 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    is that a 337?

  • @fabinhosousa8893
    @fabinhosousa8893 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Esse cara e brabo na máquina!!!!

  • @BartzabelAlgol
    @BartzabelAlgol 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man those little guys can wreak havoc for such a small creature!

  • @123TauruZ321
    @123TauruZ321 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyone who has done hard physical labour can feel the strain spared in the back and shoulders with every grab of that bucket. That there is 8 hours physical job done in 15 minutes.

  • @gmamose9152
    @gmamose9152 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like beavers and he natural world and things, but I really like seeing the work you do and letting those streams and ponds break loose! The damage they cause is unbelievable!

  • @sidekadnan8601
    @sidekadnan8601 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The beavers make a good job building a dam..

  • @williamwhitney5442
    @williamwhitney5442 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good job!

  • @RebelCowgirl01
    @RebelCowgirl01 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's some pretty tight work on that machine. Nice job!!!

  • @robertscutt2904
    @robertscutt2904 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I always thought beavers created land in high Mountainous areas by daming up streams to create ponds that lead to lakes, and meadows Over time. All the wildlife in the forest benefit from the beavers Engineering skills.Moose, Deer, Bear's Wolves,Turtles.Ducks, Frogs, Fish, And many more Creatures, Even the lndians knew how Essential the Beavers and their Dams were to Life in forest, When Beavers are in the forest it's a thriving forest, They're dispensers of God's gift H20. Post 10. Use Discretion with the Beavers.Capeesh. P.S.They help keep Water in the Mountains, a Positive in a time of Drought.

  • @slowteacher
    @slowteacher 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I hope no beaver were harmed during this excaworking

  • @randyolan1273
    @randyolan1273 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Excellent operator

    • @justinkassel4000
      @justinkassel4000 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Excellent? Half his spool pile got put in running water. Boys moving shit twice.

  • @shahriar1159
    @shahriar1159 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good operator 👍👍😎

  • @MrJohnm1965
    @MrJohnm1965 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    846 beavers disliked this video!!LOL!!!

  • @jaysongalicia292
    @jaysongalicia292 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Poor beaver imagine the hardwork he put up just to set up this dam

  • @thatfeeble-mindedboy
    @thatfeeble-mindedboy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Skilled operator

  • @johnm.evangelis693
    @johnm.evangelis693 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good work TG18 you work that bobcat pretty good. all that was the work of the darn beavers?

    • @The-Ordinary-Man
      @The-Ordinary-Man 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +John M. Evangelis Yeah, the little buggers take down a lot of trees, to get to the juicy small branches to munch on. Left to their own devices, you'll have a valley like the one in the video in just one season. Dead trees everywhere.

    • @Edcognito
      @Edcognito 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +James Carter That dam has been there more than one season!

  • @Bellislawns
    @Bellislawns 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Answer the phone. Uncle Bob wants his damn mini x back ;)

  • @emmyjosumpter9897
    @emmyjosumpter9897 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Isnt it illegal to remove a beaver dam once established unless your in an urban area where a newly built dam is causing flooding it is illegal to take down an active beaver dam .not sure why people keep putting these up .but its getting ready to go bad

    • @allanfarr
      @allanfarr 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Only in Democratic socialist states.

  • @non-gc7tf
    @non-gc7tf 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    good job

  • @giampietroboldrin9141
    @giampietroboldrin9141 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Giampietro Boldrin italiano. QUESTO È IL MIO GENERE PREFERITO PER VEDERE QUESTE ENORMI RUSPE CHE LE FANNO LAVORARE DA PER TUTTO. 😮😲🤔. FENOMENALI. OK OK.

  • @chrismoyler
    @chrismoyler 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where does all the mud in the dam come from please?
    I understand about the logs and stuff, but the mud??
    Ty.

    • @toneyingram732
      @toneyingram732 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The mud come because Beaver pack mud and their Dam

    • @thomasjsanford4369
      @thomasjsanford4369 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The bottom of the pond is loaded with silt for the beaver to use in building a dam..

  • @stereopolice
    @stereopolice 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Beavers have been causing me trouble my entire life.

    • @justinjensen100
      @justinjensen100 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You too huh?.....lol!

    • @stereopolice
      @stereopolice 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Justi fied It never ends ...

  • @MrRemo58
    @MrRemo58 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I hope the beavers are ok

  • @radketim
    @radketim 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bet the beaver was thrilled

  • @sergesmith2863
    @sergesmith2863 8 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    The ecosystem that nature builds and man removes!

    • @mrcaboosevg6089
      @mrcaboosevg6089 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      +Serge Smith Beavers are pretty up there on the pest list, they benefit only themselves while ruing everything that lives in the rivers a brooks they clog up.

    • @GenX-Memories
      @GenX-Memories 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      +Serge Smith Last I checked we had dominion over animals, so yeah, we can do what we want.

    • @aaronqjm265
      @aaronqjm265 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Aglarend fu

    • @sergesmith2863
      @sergesmith2863 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      _Aaron_ _Potato_
      ??

    • @aaronqjm265
      @aaronqjm265 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      -.-

  • @jax9769
    @jax9769 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video is Dam good.

  • @Frenchylikeshikes
    @Frenchylikeshikes 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are you standing in the middle of the pond ?

  • @kasman56
    @kasman56 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Beaver just going to rebuild lol

    • @balargus319
      @balargus319 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Flay one alive and leave it as a warning for its mate.

  • @michaelgula3495
    @michaelgula3495 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    So what were they trying to accomplish? A levee? I wonder what it looks like now.

  • @SHAUNDIGITY
    @SHAUNDIGITY 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Boy that Beaver really knows how to work that wood.

  • @hometeam2526
    @hometeam2526 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    How deep in the water can the bucket go ?

  • @bobkirsch2722
    @bobkirsch2722 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why would you destroy it?

  • @BubbaDog001
    @BubbaDog001 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What was the dam hurting?

  • @kearneydillon4803
    @kearneydillon4803 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you have grabbed a long stick and used it to hook that log (just out of reach) that started another jam downstream?

  • @barrythacker7281
    @barrythacker7281 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    a smooth operator

  • @fukkyoutube
    @fukkyoutube 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    you should have used those larger logs to build yourself a pad to stabilize that mini and keep it from sinking

  • @lordieshepherd
    @lordieshepherd 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good effort

  • @ramairgto72
    @ramairgto72 8 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Dam video..

  • @mrheston2460
    @mrheston2460 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    hey wally, quit being so hard on the beaver..lol

  • @thomasjsanford4369
    @thomasjsanford4369 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It was very considerate of you to neatly stack up the building materials for the beaver, instead of just breaking it open, and letting everything wash downstream.
    .
    Just give him a couple weeks, and he will build it again !!

  • @raz999.9
    @raz999.9 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    With all these logs still in the area will take a beaver just less than a week to rebuild a new dam.

  • @thomassettle2632
    @thomassettle2632 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That is a very cool machine with the extra grab hook

  • @jcramond73
    @jcramond73 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dam Eisbibers, even after Grimm they are still creating trouble.