Thank you for watching and thank you to Jim at Texoma Precision Pellet for sending out the parts for my Zeus and the rounds to try. www.texomaprecisionpellet.com Want early access? Join the Matrix! th-cam.com/users/toxicmatrixjoin Here is the breakdown on the ammo: #8 shot 3x - .45 caliber pellets #2 buck 2x - .50 caliber balls If you are interested in some of the items I use in my videos, here is my influencer store link from Amazon: www.amazon.com/shop/toxicmatrix FREE SHIPPING! Use promo code - Matrix www.bluegrassbigbore.com
All Shotgun’s whether Air or Gun powder are meant to be a up close and personal experience for the target, not really for long distance. But it will definitely get their attention. I really love that Shotgun, now I want one!
@@shaneludwig4847 You can definitely expect better groups from a shotgun though. I just put the new barrel on for the follow up video, just waiting for the chokes to come in. My 870 would have an incredibly tight pattern at this distance compared to this. The barrel was rifled, im hoping the next video is much better with the smoothbore.
@_AnAmerican_ Not really something I do often, but I will make sure to inspect the 72 cal smoothbore one thats coming lol I was probably too distracted from the video going over the swap.
*Try putting 25 drops of non-newtonian fluid (oobleck- corn starch & water 50/50) on the shot. We use this trick for Geese hunting and the shot starts spreading out normally after it's about 250/330 feet out from the barrel. We get geese out to about 750' away with this tweak. It also acts as a SLUG for shooting bear at 300 Feet or less. Shot stays in one giant lump from the initial shock. NOTE: when you make the oobleck use 20% bleach in the water so the corn starch does not start to rot.*
Does this really work?? I mean like in a 12 gauge conventional shottie? I've been a long time waterfowl hunter and never have I heard of such a thing. Lol
@@357dayton *Non-Newtonian fluid (Oobleck) on your shot will give you 3X longer range but be warned if a Goose comes in too close you will blow it to pieces since the shot will be in one big mass!!! FOR LONG RANGE SHOTS ONLY! Yup! It really WORKS. It will cost you 2 bucks to try it out, what do you have to lose? Shoot a large paper target first so you can get an Idea of the spread pattern. Also make the 'Oobleck' with the exact same formula EACH-TIME or you get different results every-time. Just make sure you keep the gun powder DRY! I treat my shot about 2 minutes before shooting with a Syringe. If you want to make a batch of shells in advance you will need to open the shells and put the gun powder in a 2mil thick baggy heat-seal it and then reseal the shell after re-loading the shot with Oobleck. STORE and TRANSPORT THE SHELLS SHOT SIDE DOWN so the Oobleck does not run all over the primer for long term storage. Drip some hot wax over the stop of the shell to spot Oobleck from leaking out. I usually make them while I am reloading old shells. Good for those impossible 300 yard long shots LOL. Aim carefully! I use a green dot sight on the Weaver rail for these babies and it hits true and hard every-time! NOTE: Use in Semi-Auto shotguns only just in case you get a Oobleck barrel jam (I never had one yet). NOT FOR USE IN PUMP "gun powder" SHOTGUNS. TOO Dangerous, Over-Pressure danger with no way out!*
Thank you! I did a follow up to this where it performed MUCH better! th-cam.com/video/pVoH0FxOWGk/w-d-xo.html I still have some work to do, but it was a big improvement.
The Corps of Discovery lead by Lewis and Clark carried one high powered air rifle to impress the tribes on the Upper Missouri. They killed big game with it. They never suggested it was the only one to make the tribes believe they were greatly armed.
I call BS. They carried an airgun because it’s easier to get air than it is to get Black Powder when you’re out exploring and there is no local Walmart. They could have been at the mercy of price gouging trader’s and possibly compromised in the process.
Cool. I learned something new today!😎 I have to wonder now what was used for air? My guess is piston setup..🤓 I have to remind myself that the world didn't start when I was born. Things did exist before the 60's.😅
Years ago my Dad tried splitting OOBs with a knife then inserting wire fishing line, then squishing with pliers, to make "chain shot." But it didn't work well. He was working on 16 gauge shot gun shells.
Dude!!!I I am a shotgun loader been doing it all my life. I'm going to suggest something you might think it's weird but it will help your grouping stay closer together buy some sheep's wool and tear a patch off that will cover the back of the pellets you are using. The shock hitting your ammo all at once is throwing everything off a 1/4inch thick wad of sheep wool will cushion it enough that it will help your accuracy it can be cork or cardboard I like sheepswool and have better performance with it. Just try it load your projectile then the wool behind it close n shoot. The air from the gun is like the powder going off
Definitely, I actually grabbed a ton of different wants to try out. I have a diablo 12, so I have been playing with the powder card and wads from that a bit. With the new ammo I am trying in the 72 cal version, it has been much better. Going to be trying out a ton of different options.👍👍
Dude!!! That thing is awesome, was surprised at how loud it is for an air rifle, and the recoil you took, for an air rifle!!! I just stumbled onto your vids, I had no idea these things existed, which is bad because now I want one. Cool stuff!!! I gotta see it with the bigger barrel, and that other one in full auto!!!
The 72 cal is one of the craziest things I have come across, haha. The Blitz will be a lot of fun to make a video on. Ive been doing Full-auto Friday shorts with it for a little bit, TH-cam cant make up its mind on whether or not they want to restrict my videos lol. PCP airguns are a lot of fun, tons of variety, budget options that still can hold their own. The range of power is incredible as low as 5ft/lbs or with a new release thats coming soon, 3000ft/lbs+
@@toxicmatrix1337 the thing about the blitz is that youtubers seem to love it and not run into many problems, but when you look at user reviews anywhere on the board, you get a whole lot of negative reviews.
@@thomasseeley8124 People ran into magazine issues when they first came out. I think thats been resolved. I have almost a dozen mags, all work flawless. The moderator is an issue, I think with how the blitz functions, it gets damaged over time. They recommend the DonnyFL Ronin and that you may need a new spring. I think the moderator puts excess tension on the spring and causes premature wear. Optics can get in the way just a fraction, it will not feed properly with the least amount of obstruction. If the mag touches the optic, its not going to work. Aside from that, I cant really think of much else. People run into leaks but thats pretty common, a gauge needs tightening, degas screw, etc.
Next Tuesday, I have this back out with a new barrel and choke, massive difference! Surprisingly one of the cheapest airguns I have is one of the most accurate of anything I own, the Gauntlet 30. It will get a 1/2" group at 100 yards, around 400 dollars. I have been testing a Bintac MCAR and that is at the point where its round on round at 100 yards.
In Louisiana, anything that shoots a projectile via propellent, including an air rifle, is classified as a firearm if you are prohibited from firearm ownership.
I'm really liking this air shotgun. I want it for home defense. I'm thinking maybe full auto with a 300 round drum would be good. Most crooks will haul ass once they hear you rack a conventional 12 guage. If a crook comes thru my front door, there is no racking on this air shotgun so, I'm thinking I'm going to have to switch to full auto and just get it on. No warning shot(s). The first full auto burst will be in his chest. If he's not down, he'll run. That's when he gets the balance of the 300 round drum in his back. Excellent review as always. Love your channel. Cheers Friendo!
lol! Thank you! Tippmann makes a belt-fed 22 airgun, the concept is cool but needs work. It would be awesome to see that be implemented in a badass rig. The Blitz in auto is so good, way too much fun. 1 magazine is all youd need, its over in 1.5 seconds 1200rpm. Total of 1700ft/lbs in 1 33 round mag
This setup will be night and day with a new barrel too. This one ended up being rifled, as a smoothbore the groups should be so much better. Plus the choke, Im dying to retest it out.
Many questions come to mind about this as a home defense weapon. To me, first and foremost is the amount of time the cylinder would stay charged while the weapon is put away in the home and if leaving the cylinder charged is bad for the seals and components of the shotgun because you don't want it uncharged in an emergency when it takes 30 seconds or so to fill it. In a life of death scenario, 30 seconds can be a lifetime. If nothing else, it looks to be a fun thing to plink with at the range.
For these airguns, you want to leave them with air stored. You can have them topped off at max pressure, but I usually leave mine around 3000 to 4000psi. Pressure should hold, if it does drop over time, a leak is present and needs to be corrected. You'll get drop offs when you fill, heats generated from the fill, and you'll lose about 100-200 psi when it cools. Slower fills will help prevent the loss, when filling transfer tanks, some people put them in water to cool as its filled.
You do need to check on them since they do tend to run down slowly over the course of months. No seal is perfect after all, and valve designs to minimize leakage conflict with valve designs for rapid discharge. But they're designed to be stored charged since if the tank runs completely empty you'll get moisture and dust migrating in. Same reason you shouldn't run your propane tank all the way dry. Big thing for home defense is that they work on, at *most* 1/10th the pressure of a typical firearm. So you need a much larger package to get the same amount of power. That's... inconvenient. But still better than just a sharp stick.
Am super surprised you did Not have a wad or sabot get crooked in that muzzle break. 😮 Like firing Rem accelerators ™️ in a M1a. No sabots through a muzzle brake..💥💯
I think a choke would definitely help but also the muzzle brake may be affecting the spread. Also if it’s a rifled barrel that probably has an affect also. I’m not familiar with air guns but very familiar with shotguns.
One thing, might be the type of casing, the pellets and slugs are in. It's like a capsule, and it may have some sort of effect on the spread of the shots. Maybe try firing a single slug, and see what sort of energy you get from 1 instead of 2-3. Other things like 'wadding,' behind the slugs, may add to the energy.
This is a great video. The 1st shots were, after all, bird shot and for hunting small game rabbit quail squirrel you dont want so much shot in them you can't eat them. So, with the bird shot shells, I would want an even larger pattern. I would never consider them for self - and home defense. I would like to see the rounds that would be used both in hunting larger game and defense shot into ballistic jell. At hunting and ranges, that would be more like home defense. Thanks for the great video.
@@jonchizm7121 The rifled barrel and no choke didnt really work out lol. I have an updated video with it, much better. You could always run slugs though, thats the most power. Its pretty much an air musket, I dont think much would survive a direct hit.
This is Great! Love the testing! Can you also, if possible, include SPL measurements, both with and without the silencer? This thing sounds as loud as a firearm lol! Also, after testing various shotgun style loads, could you put in a single slug for comparison? Thx!!!!
Thanks! I am going to redo this with the 72cal smoothbore version and choke. This barrel in the 58 ended up being rifled. I need to grab a meter, the one I have isnt really good. Unfortunately in this caliber I only had the shotshells. I do have a bunch of videos with the 72 cal slugs, they are monsters
I watched the video and my first reaction was to apologize, but in my defense it is a 16” rifled barrel, firing prototype ammo. Looks like I need to build a choke or find smooth bore barrel stock.
I got your choke, beautiful & precision piece...definitely need to reach out for a smooth bore barrel to swapp onto my 32" Zeus soon...please get some stock, in stock!
Id love to retry with the smoothbore and choke. If you need the 72 cal tested, I would be glad to do that as well. I do like the different shot, pellet loads, I dont think they need any changes. I believe a revisit with the different barrel/choke, doing the same tests will be night and day. 👍👍
Another GREAT one, Bro! [This should help a lot of people] 👍 The Zuess - Need I say more?! haha Nice lookin' setup, and the concept is super cool. About time, right?! Then ya break out the select-fire.. I've always installed obserdly oversized bottles onto my rifles [I'm a high shot count fan] and the Twin-tank-adapters are the best! *Or so I thought . . . At least for the Hatsan Blitz, they were offering a QUAD-Tank-Adapter! Hook up [4] 700cc bottles, and GO! They also offer extended round ovalized rubber-belt fed mags.. Ahhh the fun never ends! 🤘🤣
I had a S&W Governor with a 4" barrel I believe. The spread with buckshot was deeply concerning. There's a reason pistols are the platform they chose when the shotgun came to be. I'd never suggest a Taurus Judge or S&W Governor for home defense to anyone. A good shotgun with a combat length 16-18" barrel is what's optimal if you want a good home defense shotgun.
Sometimes, however, "cool" you personally think something is, it's unwise to share with a large group of people looking to undo, the very rights you currently have. I agree with it being a great way to protect our family and what we all have left completely. As well as being a great informative video But the more attention something gets, the more likely that somebody out there is willing to take that very right away. Unfortunate "title" to video. Cheers 🍻...
Ignorance only lasts so long though. The one thing that is going to set things off, probably wont be a video, but rather a person using one in a crime. Theres one company that makes airgun moderators, "suppressors", essentially. Someone used one of their airgun parts on a firearm in a crime and the company was then raided by the ATF. These moderators are still not even classified as, "suppressors", by the ATF. That in itself is something to note. The states that want to classify these as firearms, cant. They send in the paperwork, but the feds cant process it as a firearm because it isnt a firearm. On the other hand though, if people are concerned these videos are going to cause an issue, my mentality is to get them into the hands of everyone who wants them before its restricted.
Kinda American way of thinking about things is screw the government anyway, there's so many guns in private hands that they would almost have to declare war on the citizens in order to disarm the country and it would be long, miserable and brutal
Shotguns operate at low pressures compared to rifles. So my guess is you need a longer barrel or lower power when it comes to the spread. I know having a choke will effect how it leaves the barrel. But it looks like the wadding is tumbling also. So longer barrel with a choke would make that a lot more accurate.
For these, you can get your own shot or ball ammo and make your own, youd save a good bit of money. For the larger ammo, if you get molds, and cast them yourself, thats a huge savings too. Kind of the nice thing about these, if you make your own ammo, only other thing you need is air. I do need to revisit this with a proper barrel, this one was rifled, thought it was a smoothbore at first.
you could always take the route of, "Check the link in the description for the fun bit, I'll wait, Now that your back with us on with the rest of the review", that video would get demonetized sure but the larger video people come to see would still be intact. you could even make it private so that it could only be found through your comments section (*and the eventual link sharing) to track usage
I might just start doing it as members only videos. YT has new policy changes next week that I just heard about the other day. I need to start promoting memberships somehow too, so that may work out.
They raided an airgun company that makes moderators. Technically, they care in some respects, but I was talking about the NFA and cost/restriction compared to firearms.
The gel I use is the same density the FBI uses, you would not want to be anywhere down range of this. You could load rock salt, ive been trying out different wads and seeing what patterns better. That would be interesting to see.
Might not mind owning one - BUT would not buy one without trying it first. You mentioned full automatic. I would not buy one. I've fired full auto and after the first round you are off target. It takes a LOT of practice, and ammo, before you can be even reasonably accurate with full auto. I can fire a semi auto rifle quite rapidly, AND I am able to keep it nice enough on target. If I want multiple projectiles going down range at once, that is why I have a 12 ga pump shotgun. I do have a number of C02 rifles and pistols, and a few air rifles and pistols. Fun, cheap to shoot, and you can shoot in areas where firearms are not allowed.
Because of the much lower pressure, the big-bore full auto airguns are throwing energy similar to a small SMG, but with the size and weight of an M1 Garand. They barely move. I've got a little Drozd in .177 that will put 6 rounds through a dime at 20 ft. Works pretty well for pest control.
This thing with slugs is relatively close some 12ga loads. It will knock 25lb steel target stands over at 100 yards. It has the power youd expect from a firearm, this test was a little lackluster with patterning since the barrel is rifled. Im hoping to follow up and put it up against a 12ga if I get the 72 cal smoothbore and choke kit, as well as retesting the 58 with the smoothbore setup.
I could show you a cheap paint ball gun that is more dangerous than a shotgun and takes no modification to the gun simply a sabo 🎉 however it would be for self defense inside of your own house as well 😉
@@adamkerns-isley8634whatever dude, that just shows how little u actually know about 12ga shotguns. The US used em to clear trenches an the Germans cried it was a war crime. A 12ga loaded with #00 3 inch shells is devastating and ur not getting that performance from a paintball gun.
Im going to be doing a follow up with the 72 cal smoothbore barrel with choke. The big issue with this setup was that the barrel is rifled. Im dying to retry this, I might have to grab a clay thrower. lol
This video is nothing short of evidence to avoid air rifle toys and getting a real firearm. Greater reliability, usability, accuracy, range, capacity. The only thing these air rifles offer is ease of purchase. That doesn't count for much for those who have no problems passing background checks.
These give firearms a run for the money on accuracy, these are incredibly reliable too. I have 33 round mags for the FA airgun I showed in the video quickly, belt-fed is a thing too. Vast majority of people arent able to use firearms in their backyard, some people travel hours to get to a range. Theres a lot more to this than options for felons.
@@jeffhunt5964 The spread issue was more than likely due to the barrel. I am going to be retesting with the 72 cal smoothbore and choke. If things go well, I will put it up against a 12ga. This produces 1500ft/lbs, it should be relatively close with shot. The 3 inch magnum slugs will get away from it for sure though, but the 72 cal with slugs is a monster still.
Or, and this may be controversial, just get one because they are fun. Not every purchase has to be about your ability to defend your family from the Golden Horde.
@@jeffhunt5964you clearly missed the part where you can shoot slugs out of it as well, I have a Seneca .357 big bore pcp air rifle and I run .357 (9mm) 127gr solid flat point slugs out of it and it’s fairly fucking accurate, don’t judge a big bore air rifle off the shot capsules but using actual slugs.
Funny thing, this barrel is rifled. Whoops! LOL That was probably the biggest issue here. I have a smoothbore coming to retry this, I thought that this barrel was going to be one, but unfortunately it is rifled. Here's some shorts of this at distance. 70 yards th-cam.com/users/shortstlXmNknvmuw 100 yards th-cam.com/users/shortsXlbOyKEQP_c
Please note, you don’t need an FFL to purchase guns in any state unless you plan to sell the gun. The biggest problem, is some guns require you to ship to an FFL company, as some companies are with our government and don’t want you having guns without some record.
@@TheRoadhammer379 not sure what you mean. An FFL is a license to sell weapons as an arms dealer. If it is shipping to your door, then you are buying it from a dealer who has an FFL. Also, these are air rifles, which are not classified as firearms.
Can you use compressed air from a regular compressor? Or do you need something like CO2 or special compressed air? I'm kind of interested, but it seems information is all over the place.
The reason this didnt perform as well as it should have, was due to the rifled barrel. Im going to put the 72 cal smoothbore up against a 12ga at some point. This has more power than many shot loads, just needs to be setup properly. This thing sends a freight train of lead down range with the giant rounds, it hits harder than anything else I own, regardless of the ft/lb difference. The effect from the size of the projectile is like a plow.
I just think some people are afraid to admit that these air rifles nowadays are getting pretty damn bad as and they don't like that soon they'll prob be better than a firearm.
@@poolhalljunkie9 Id already take the Gauntlet 30 over a 22lr, the accuracy is incredible, hits harder with heavy grain ammo and pretty much zero cleaning by comparison. For power sake, the Zeus with slugs... My god LOL!
It rains a lot here, loads of stagnant water pools in the woods to spawn a ton of bugs. I have a bug bag perimeter around my yard but I think I need some propane bug catchers.
Why did you click on it ?Why did you watch it ? Have you ever created anything and put it out there for the world to see , other than your crappy opinions?
It's not useless lol. The accuracy issue is more of the way the shots are staged in the shells. They'll naturally tend to veer... This is very useful info, because I will now prefer to use a single slug... Thx for the upload and presentation
While in Canada we have much bigger issues right now dealing with govt and our firearms every firearm gets shipped directly to our doors. A signature is supposed to be gotten sometimes they just get left sitting on the doorstep.
I do find that funny, especially since its Canada. Firearms can ship back to your home here, I sent one out for warranty work and it came back to me. Our C&R license allows purchase of 50+ year old guns to ship direct, but everything else is through a dealer FFL. Not all states require a license, but I have one. I should be allowed to order whatever I want, but that requires the dealer license, which also requires having a store.
Its a modification This started as a 32 inch barrel, 72 cal slug Zeus. If you like the standard configuration, that can be grabbed at www.bluegrassbigbore.com - Free shipping if you use my promo code - Matrix www.texomaprecisionpellet.com does custom work, they sent out the new barrel. If you are looking to customize one or buy one customized, Texoma is the place. 100% heads up though is that this ammo is still being worked on. I am going to try to fine tune some things on my own as well as trying new rounds from Texoma. I have their 72 cal smoothbore barrel with threads for remington chokes. I grabbed some chokes to try and I am also going to play with different wads and load amounts.
The only complaint I have with the Blitz is that the 16 round magazine empties before you even finish squeezing the trigger. 30 round ain't much better.
@toxicmatrix1337 The 16 round ones aren't bad. Can set those by hand. The 30 round one I have to use a socket and wrench. I heard there was a proprietary tool, but haven't been able to track it down. I do plan on picking up a few more 30 round, soon.
This puts out 1500ft/lbs of energy, stacks slugs on top of one another at 100 yards. This was a test with shotshells, its in development. New barrel already groups 10x as tight at 50 feet. Wads, loads and choke are next to test.
That's pretty nifty, shipped to the door for 650? Please clarify if the pressurized air can remain in the tank within the not a firearm device you are using? Can it be left for weeks / months without leakage? Subscribed and looking learn more as you get the proper functionality of it sorted out.
The Hatsan Blitz is all over the place for prices. Best sale is 650 but average is around 800 right now, off sale it could be 1000. You want to have these stored with at least a couple thousand PSI, they should hold no problem. If it doesnt maintain pressure, a seal needs to be replaced. The 72 cal smoothbore barrel is coming soon, Im looking forward to retrying this, hoping for much better patterns. The slugs through this are monsters.
Thank you! I think if I get a new barrel and choke setup, the shot amount would probably be sufficent. Its hard to tell with how much spread it has. Initially, I thought the barrel was a smoothbore, but it ended up being rifled. The company that sent it makes a smoothbore kit for the 72 cal, thats probably the biggest issue with it at the moment.
@@stuwest3653 You want to keep these charged after the initial fill. If they go back to empty for an extended amount of time, it may leak when you charge it back up. Once filled, they should maintain pressure, if it doesnt a seal needs be replaced, a gauge or bleed screw needs tightening. If it still leaks after that, it would need to be serviced.
i dont wanna be that guy but your 10 an 12 feet are more like 15-20 unless the camera is playing tricks on me. still an amazing shotgun, thanks for showcasing
Thank you for watching and thank you to Jim at Texoma Precision Pellet for sending out the parts for my Zeus and the rounds to try.
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Can I get this in California by chance
@@corneliorios8863 Shouldnt be an issue that I am aware of.
All Shotgun’s whether Air or Gun powder are meant to be a up close and personal experience for the target, not really for long distance. But it will definitely get their attention. I really love that Shotgun, now I want one!
@@shaneludwig4847 You can definitely expect better groups from a shotgun though. I just put the new barrel on for the follow up video, just waiting for the chokes to come in. My 870 would have an incredibly tight pattern at this distance compared to this. The barrel was rifled, im hoping the next video is much better with the smoothbore.
@@toxicmatrix1337 Your right grouping is important as well. I can’t wait for the next video of yours.
Yes please on the Full Auto!!!! Love to see it. That was fun with shotgun rounds
👍👍😎
@@toxicmatrix1337 YUP
Yes yes full auto. Curious what ballistic size on it?
@@dominikspencer3981 30 caliber, puts out 55ftlbs. Relatively close to 25acp
@@toxicmatrix1337 name of full auto gun please so I can buy one.
You'll put your eye out.
And everything else too lol
You are shooting though a RIFLED barrel. That's why the spread.
I was under the impression it was a smoothbore when I was filming. The other kit they make for it isnt rifled.
Good observation!
@_AnAmerican_ Not really something I do often, but I will make sure to inspect the 72 cal smoothbore one thats coming lol I was probably too distracted from the video going over the swap.
Wondering if you installed a modified or full choke on the end of that barrel. Might be something you will need custom milled.
@@AaronX442 The new barrel is threaded for a choke, should be interesting.
I know you didn't like the spread on those rounds, but for the most part, vitals were hit on these paper targets. So the gun is pretty accurate.
Just getting back into air rifles after 20 years seen this, subscribed ❤
Welcome! Tons more to come
*Try putting 25 drops of non-newtonian fluid (oobleck- corn starch & water 50/50) on the shot. We use this trick for Geese hunting and the shot starts spreading out normally after it's about 250/330 feet out from the barrel. We get geese out to about 750' away with this tweak. It also acts as a SLUG for shooting bear at 300 Feet or less. Shot stays in one giant lump from the initial shock. NOTE: when you make the oobleck use 20% bleach in the water so the corn starch does not start to rot.*
Does this really work?? I mean like in a 12 gauge conventional shottie? I've been a long time waterfowl hunter and never have I heard of such a thing. Lol
@@357dayton *Non-Newtonian fluid (Oobleck) on your shot will give you 3X longer range but be warned if a Goose comes in too close you will blow it to pieces since the shot will be in one big mass!!! FOR LONG RANGE SHOTS ONLY! Yup! It really WORKS. It will cost you 2 bucks to try it out, what do you have to lose? Shoot a large paper target first so you can get an Idea of the spread pattern. Also make the 'Oobleck' with the exact same formula EACH-TIME or you get different results every-time. Just make sure you keep the gun powder DRY! I treat my shot about 2 minutes before shooting with a Syringe. If you want to make a batch of shells in advance you will need to open the shells and put the gun powder in a 2mil thick baggy heat-seal it and then reseal the shell after re-loading the shot with Oobleck. STORE and TRANSPORT THE SHELLS SHOT SIDE DOWN so the Oobleck does not run all over the primer for long term storage. Drip some hot wax over the stop of the shell to spot Oobleck from leaking out. I usually make them while I am reloading old shells. Good for those impossible 300 yard long shots LOL. Aim carefully! I use a green dot sight on the Weaver rail for these babies and it hits true and hard every-time! NOTE: Use in Semi-Auto shotguns only just in case you get a Oobleck barrel jam (I never had one yet). NOT FOR USE IN PUMP "gun powder" SHOTGUNS. TOO Dangerous, Over-Pressure danger with no way out!*
Nice video! Your delivery is engaging. I am impressed by the setup you figured out, especially as an alternative to the boom sticks.
Thank you! I did a follow up to this where it performed MUCH better!
th-cam.com/video/pVoH0FxOWGk/w-d-xo.html
I still have some work to do, but it was a big improvement.
The Corps of Discovery lead by Lewis and Clark carried one high powered air rifle to impress the tribes on the Upper Missouri.
They killed big game with it.
They never suggested it was the only one to make the tribes believe they were greatly armed.
*Fires 3 rounds* "Dont let them know we have 2000 hand pumps to go" lol. The Girandoni 👍👍
@@toxicmatrix1337😂🤣😭
I call BS. They carried an airgun because it’s easier to get air than it is to get Black Powder when you’re out exploring and there is no local Walmart. They could have been at the mercy of price gouging trader’s and possibly compromised in the process.
Cool. I learned something new today!😎 I have to wonder now what was used for air? My guess is piston setup..🤓 I have to remind myself that the world didn't start when I was born. Things did exist before the 60's.😅
@@toxicmatrix1337lol
Excellent oratory and awesome play by play. Thanks
Thank you!
"Spreads kinda like the governor", dude that shit had me rolln
i love the comically large scope on it
lol
Years ago my Dad tried splitting OOBs with a knife then inserting wire fishing line, then squishing with pliers, to make "chain shot." But it didn't work well. He was working on 16 gauge shot gun shells.
The company that made these shells has that as an option of their 12ga shells. lol!
Dude!!!I I am a shotgun loader been doing it all my life. I'm going to suggest something you might think it's weird but it will help your grouping stay closer together buy some sheep's wool and tear a patch off that will cover the back of the pellets you are using. The shock hitting your ammo all at once is throwing everything off a 1/4inch thick wad of sheep wool will cushion it enough that it will help your accuracy it can be cork or cardboard I like sheepswool and have better performance with it. Just try it load your projectile then the wool behind it close n shoot. The air from the gun is like the powder going off
Definitely, I actually grabbed a ton of different wants to try out. I have a diablo 12, so I have been playing with the powder card and wads from that a bit. With the new ammo I am trying in the 72 cal version, it has been much better. Going to be trying out a ton of different options.👍👍
Thank u for whiping that thing out !! I like it little pricy but very nice. Wish u woulda put supreser on
I run the moderator with the slugs, its a beast. Not sure how well it would work with the shot though.
Dude!!! That thing is awesome, was surprised at how loud it is for an air rifle, and the recoil you took, for an air rifle!!! I just stumbled onto your vids, I had no idea these things existed, which is bad because now I want one.
Cool stuff!!! I gotta see it with the bigger barrel, and that other one in full auto!!!
The 72 cal is one of the craziest things I have come across, haha. The Blitz will be a lot of fun to make a video on. Ive been doing Full-auto Friday shorts with it for a little bit, TH-cam cant make up its mind on whether or not they want to restrict my videos lol.
PCP airguns are a lot of fun, tons of variety, budget options that still can hold their own. The range of power is incredible as low as 5ft/lbs or with a new release thats coming soon, 3000ft/lbs+
@@toxicmatrix1337 the thing about the blitz is that youtubers seem to love it and not run into many problems, but when you look at user reviews anywhere on the board, you get a whole lot of negative reviews.
@@thomasseeley8124 People ran into magazine issues when they first came out. I think thats been resolved. I have almost a dozen mags, all work flawless. The moderator is an issue, I think with how the blitz functions, it gets damaged over time. They recommend the DonnyFL Ronin and that you may need a new spring. I think the moderator puts excess tension on the spring and causes premature wear. Optics can get in the way just a fraction, it will not feed properly with the least amount of obstruction. If the mag touches the optic, its not going to work. Aside from that, I cant really think of much else. People run into leaks but thats pretty common, a gauge needs tightening, degas screw, etc.
people hunt elk with air guns now
I'm in the same boat
Yes I definitely want to see the full auto
I had no idea there were airguns as powerful as this :D pretty groovy
This thing with slugs is a monster lol
This is at 100 yards, the steel plates are 25lbs
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Check out the history of the Girandoni military air rifle. It's from the late 1700s.
Zues is the bad ass air gun you can get. I always wanted the airforce Texan it's 1500. Though
That thing is awesome!!! What do you have in the way of precision rifles, or what would you recommend?
Next Tuesday, I have this back out with a new barrel and choke, massive difference! Surprisingly one of the cheapest airguns I have is one of the most accurate of anything I own, the Gauntlet 30. It will get a 1/2" group at 100 yards, around 400 dollars. I have been testing a Bintac MCAR and that is at the point where its round on round at 100 yards.
Nice home defence weapon
Anton Chagurh would love that thing.
lol
In Louisiana, anything that shoots a projectile via propellent, including an air rifle, is classified as a firearm if you are prohibited from firearm ownership.
Read the laws. Don't just listen to people who say stuff.
I will get felony charges in Louisiana for a potato gun . But I can own a ww2 flamethrower no problem...lol.
FYI I'm not a felon nor have I been involved in domestic violence or any sexual crap....my rights were lost for a mistermeaner.
I'm an iraq war vet with an honorable discharge.
Compressed air is classified as a propellant.
You have shown that when we get older, we can still have fun with air rifles. Thanks!
Some of these airguns are absolutely crazy!
Content is awesome. Thank you. Btw you are a really good shot.
@@SKYTY304 Thank you!
I'm really liking this air shotgun. I want it for home defense. I'm thinking maybe full auto with a 300 round drum would be good. Most crooks will haul ass once they hear you rack a conventional 12 guage. If a crook comes thru my front door, there is no racking on this air shotgun so, I'm thinking I'm going to have to switch to full auto and just get it on. No warning shot(s). The first full auto burst will be in his chest. If he's not down, he'll run. That's when he gets the balance of the 300 round drum in his back. Excellent review as always. Love your channel. Cheers Friendo!
lol! Thank you! Tippmann makes a belt-fed 22 airgun, the concept is cool but needs work. It would be awesome to see that be implemented in a badass rig. The Blitz in auto is so good, way too much fun. 1 magazine is all youd need, its over in 1.5 seconds 1200rpm. Total of 1700ft/lbs in 1 33 round mag
This setup will be night and day with a new barrel too. This one ended up being rifled, as a smoothbore the groups should be so much better. Plus the choke, Im dying to retest it out.
@@toxicmatrix1337 Looking forward to the video review.
imagine 300 rd drum & Boston dynamics atlas approaching a criminal holding a citizen hostage..
shoots the hostages gun hand.. off,...reports; threat neutralized
@@TomWilson-k4v ED-209 style
Many questions come to mind about this as a home defense weapon. To me, first and foremost is the amount of time the cylinder would stay charged while the weapon is put away in the home and if leaving the cylinder charged is bad for the seals and components of the shotgun because you don't want it uncharged in an emergency when it takes 30 seconds or so to fill it. In a life of death scenario, 30 seconds can be a lifetime. If nothing else, it looks to be a fun thing to plink with at the range.
For these airguns, you want to leave them with air stored. You can have them topped off at max pressure, but I usually leave mine around 3000 to 4000psi. Pressure should hold, if it does drop over time, a leak is present and needs to be corrected. You'll get drop offs when you fill, heats generated from the fill, and you'll lose about 100-200 psi when it cools. Slower fills will help prevent the loss, when filling transfer tanks, some people put them in water to cool as its filled.
You do need to check on them since they do tend to run down slowly over the course of months. No seal is perfect after all, and valve designs to minimize leakage conflict with valve designs for rapid discharge.
But they're designed to be stored charged since if the tank runs completely empty you'll get moisture and dust migrating in. Same reason you shouldn't run your propane tank all the way dry.
Big thing for home defense is that they work on, at *most* 1/10th the pressure of a typical firearm. So you need a much larger package to get the same amount of power. That's... inconvenient. But still better than just a sharp stick.
When you have to stop the gunfight to get closer to the target
lol, switch to slugs stat! The slugs are very accurate at long range and hit like a train
@@toxicmatrix1337 probably, more like a mosquito
@@toddlong8672 This is pretty much an air musket, it puts out more energy than 556 does
6:56 the sound of the cans gave me a Bioshock flashback
lol!
that ammo is $2.50 per shot? time to make some lead molds
Am super surprised you did Not have a wad or sabot get crooked in that muzzle break. 😮 Like firing Rem accelerators ™️ in a M1a. No sabots through a muzzle brake..💥💯
@@dennisfaulkner5470 whoops lol!
The bugs flying at the camera throughout the video make me instinctually wince and want to swat around my face. They keep tricking me!
You should 100% avoid my other video on the CCI shotshells haha
I think a choke would definitely help but also the muzzle brake may be affecting the spread. Also if it’s a rifled barrel that probably has an affect also. I’m not familiar with air guns but very familiar with shotguns.
It ended up being rifled, I have a follow up planned with the 72 cal smoothbore and choke. Hopefully, it works out much better.
@@toxicmatrix1337 I’m sure smoothbore will help drastically.
I’m sure this would give me 10 years in California
Idk, no pistol grip, no magazine. Nah, youre probably right lol
Nope
Grewsom will get you Five years, just for ASKING.
Bonta will push for 20-to-Life. 🙄
@@454Burban Whens that skinwalker getting booted?
It’s a neat gun but with that kind of spread, I’d just out a red dot on and lose the scope. You’re going to have to be pretty close up with it anyway.
Telescopic sights on a shotgun???? GEDDOUTTAHERE....
lol! I just left it on for when I swap back to the other barrel. The 72 cal slugs are capable of stacking on top of each other at 100 yards.
One thing, might be the type of casing, the pellets and slugs are in. It's like a capsule, and it may have some sort of effect on the spread of the shots.
Maybe try firing a single slug, and see what sort of energy you get from 1 instead of 2-3.
Other things like 'wadding,' behind the slugs, may add to the energy.
Maybe you should get a proper clay pigeon trap!👍
I dont do much skeet shooting, this was probably the 2nd time in 15 years lol. If I do get into it, I will grab one, those are pretty sweet.
This is a great video. The 1st shots were, after all, bird shot and for hunting small game rabbit quail squirrel you dont want so much shot in them you can't eat them. So, with the bird shot shells, I would want an even larger pattern. I would never consider them for self - and home defense. I would like to see the rounds that would be used both in hunting larger game and defense shot into ballistic jell. At hunting and ranges, that would be more like home defense. Thanks for the great video.
Thank you!
A modified choke would help lots
this is amazing defense against cans of soda and paper targets.
@@jonchizm7121 The rifled barrel and no choke didnt really work out lol. I have an updated video with it, much better. You could always run slugs though, thats the most power. Its pretty much an air musket, I dont think much would survive a direct hit.
Love your channel and you have some great stuff
Thank you!
“Spreads like the Governor.” I didn’t know you were based in New York.
Do you store these charged like co2 airsoft guns or store them empty?
You store these charged, nothing should leak. If you do have one, something needs to be tightened or maybe a seal needs to be replaced.
@@toxicmatrix1337 Loctite.
I was in the middle of typing but it’s still just an air rifle but then I heard you shoot that thing 😮wow
This is what it does with slugs at 100 yards:
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This is Great! Love the testing!
Can you also, if possible, include SPL measurements, both with and without the silencer? This thing sounds as loud as a firearm lol!
Also, after testing various shotgun style loads, could you put in a single slug for comparison?
Thx!!!!
Thanks! I am going to redo this with the 72cal smoothbore version and choke. This barrel in the 58 ended up being rifled. I need to grab a meter, the one I have isnt really good. Unfortunately in this caliber I only had the shotshells. I do have a bunch of videos with the 72 cal slugs, they are monsters
I watched the video and my first reaction was to apologize, but in my defense it is a 16” rifled barrel, firing prototype ammo. Looks like I need to build a choke or find smooth bore barrel stock.
I got your choke, beautiful & precision piece...definitely need to reach out for a smooth bore barrel to swapp onto my 32" Zeus soon...please get some stock, in stock!
Id love to retry with the smoothbore and choke. If you need the 72 cal tested, I would be glad to do that as well. I do like the different shot, pellet loads, I dont think they need any changes. I believe a revisit with the different barrel/choke, doing the same tests will be night and day. 👍👍
A smooth bore barrel and a choke tube would probably make this a very effective squirrel gun.
@@DWeezy62 Would be cool to see how much of a difference that would make
@@toxicmatrix1337 The choke is usually a gradual tightening of a shotgun barrel. Did you cut the choke out when you shortened the barrel?
Deff cool for a hobby, keep the regular ones for defense.
Yoh ! Don't bring a Knife to a Gunfight brother .
That’s Pretty Nice..great vid too
Thank you!
Those are great for plinking around with or even hunting, but im not going to rely on an airgun when it comes to protecting my family.
Absolute cannon. I just made watermelon and propane videos with the hatsan piledriver .50 and I just seen this . I’m subscribing to you
Thank you! This thing is a monster with slugs. Im getting the 72 cal smoothbore and choke, hoping for some nice groups
insainly cool it seems like a SAK of airguns ToxicMatrix
👍👍I still need to test out the arrows at some point
Another GREAT one, Bro! [This should help a lot of people] 👍
The Zuess - Need I say more?! haha Nice lookin' setup, and the concept is super cool. About time, right?!
Then ya break out the select-fire..
I've always installed obserdly oversized bottles onto my rifles [I'm a high shot count fan] and the Twin-tank-adapters are the best!
*Or so I thought . . . At least for the Hatsan Blitz, they were offering a QUAD-Tank-Adapter! Hook up [4] 700cc bottles, and GO!
They also offer extended round ovalized rubber-belt fed mags.. Ahhh the fun never ends! 🤘🤣
PS: Killer shooting - wreckin' those clays!!
@@DirtyDovi Thank you!
@@toxicmatrix1337 Most welcome, Bro!!
Imagine 4+ buckshot attached by cable, in a Bolo Round fashion... 😮
The 72 cal version has ball and chain rounds haha. I hope I get some of those to try.
bolo shotgun rounds have been around since the 1970s, I have several cases of novelty shotgun ammo including bolo, dragons breath, flechette
@@TheRoadhammer379 Sounds fun😋
I had a S&W Governor with a 4" barrel I believe. The spread with buckshot was deeply concerning. There's a reason pistols are the platform they chose when the shotgun came to be. I'd never suggest a Taurus Judge or S&W Governor for home defense to anyone. A good shotgun with a combat length 16-18" barrel is what's optimal if you want a good home defense shotgun.
Some of the defense loads work pretty well in it. Shot is pretty worthless unless you are 5-10 feet max.
Sometimes, however, "cool" you personally think something is, it's unwise to share with a large group of people looking to undo, the very rights you currently have.
I agree with it being a great way to protect our family and what we all have left completely.
As well as being a great informative video
But the more attention something gets, the more likely that somebody out there is willing to take that very right away.
Unfortunate "title" to video.
Cheers 🍻...
Ignorance only lasts so long though. The one thing that is going to set things off, probably wont be a video, but rather a person using one in a crime. Theres one company that makes airgun moderators, "suppressors", essentially. Someone used one of their airgun parts on a firearm in a crime and the company was then raided by the ATF. These moderators are still not even classified as, "suppressors", by the ATF. That in itself is something to note. The states that want to classify these as firearms, cant. They send in the paperwork, but the feds cant process it as a firearm because it isnt a firearm. On the other hand though, if people are concerned these videos are going to cause an issue, my mentality is to get them into the hands of everyone who wants them before its restricted.
Kinda American way of thinking about things is screw the government anyway, there's so many guns in private hands that they would almost have to declare war on the citizens in order to disarm the country and it would be long, miserable and brutal
only that without compressed air yo got nothing like a real pew pew
@@TheRealTommyBear33 Same as when you dont have gun powder, primers, brass and lead when you run out of ammo.
PS that press wood not plywood there is a difference
Another name for it is OSB or oriented strand board.
Shotguns operate at low pressures compared to rifles. So my guess is you need a longer barrel or lower power when it comes to the spread. I know having a choke will effect how it leaves the barrel. But it looks like the wadding is tumbling also. So longer barrel with a choke would make that a lot more accurate.
I have an update to this that just came out, it worked much better.
Cool stuff, but come on.... The price for the ammo is ridiculous.... WTF!!!!
For these, you can get your own shot or ball ammo and make your own, youd save a good bit of money. For the larger ammo, if you get molds, and cast them yourself, thats a huge savings too. Kind of the nice thing about these, if you make your own ammo, only other thing you need is air.
I do need to revisit this with a proper barrel, this one was rifled, thought it was a smoothbore at first.
Seneca has a.357 (9mm) flat point 100ct for $25 USD THATS 0.250 /Rd which is fucking cheaper than an actual firearm in a similar caliber.
you could always take the route of, "Check the link in the description for the fun bit, I'll wait, Now that your back with us on with the rest of the review", that video would get demonetized sure but the larger video people come to see would still be intact. you could even make it private so that it could only be found through your comments section (*and the eventual link sharing) to track usage
I might just start doing it as members only videos. YT has new policy changes next week that I just heard about the other day. I need to start promoting memberships somehow too, so that may work out.
The ATF doesn't care about air rifles 😂
They raided an airgun company that makes moderators. Technically, they care in some respects, but I was talking about the NFA and cost/restriction compared to firearms.
Mind blown dude!
@@scienceis7630 The follow up video is much better!
Damn it, New Jersey!
😥
Try using some baking soda as a buffer in your buckshot. Fill it solid in the empty cavities.
or rice flour. cream of wheat works well too
Would it hurt you ? Can you load rock salt?
The gel I use is the same density the FBI uses, you would not want to be anywhere down range of this. You could load rock salt, ive been trying out different wads and seeing what patterns better. That would be interesting to see.
Naw you’re good !
Might not mind owning one - BUT would not buy one without trying it first. You mentioned full automatic. I would not buy one. I've fired full auto and after the first round you are off target. It takes a LOT of practice, and ammo, before you can be even reasonably accurate with full auto. I can fire a semi auto rifle quite rapidly, AND I am able to keep it nice enough on target. If I want multiple projectiles going down range at once, that is why I have a 12 ga pump shotgun. I do have a number of C02 rifles and pistols, and a few air rifles and pistols. Fun, cheap to shoot, and you can shoot in areas where firearms are not allowed.
The Blitz is pretty spectacular, check out these shorts, its very controllable:
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Not every damn big bore air rifle is full auto, I have a single shot Seneca recluse II that’s accurate!
Because of the much lower pressure, the big-bore full auto airguns are throwing energy similar to a small SMG, but with the size and weight of an M1 Garand. They barely move. I've got a little Drozd in .177 that will put 6 rounds through a dime at 20 ft. Works pretty well for pest control.
@@laurenceperkins7468 I have a Drozd as well LOL!
Yes Please
😎😎
I don't muzzle brakes are recommended for shot shells. Could be one of the factors for the extreme spread.
Since it’s not a “firearm” could felons own and use it?
Shouldn't be an issue, except for Illinois and NJ.
Felons could have black powder guns I don't see why this would be a problem I would see this as a tool sold in ace hardware
@@toxicmatrix1337And the Socialist Republik of Commifornistan.
@@454Burban 😥
I would love to see all youy videos on these air rifles . thanks
Lots more to come!
Not even a true shotgun its just a air rifle
This thing with slugs is relatively close some 12ga loads. It will knock 25lb steel target stands over at 100 yards. It has the power youd expect from a firearm, this test was a little lackluster with patterning since the barrel is rifled. Im hoping to follow up and put it up against a 12ga if I get the 72 cal smoothbore and choke kit, as well as retesting the 58 with the smoothbore setup.
I could show you a cheap paint ball gun that is more dangerous than a shotgun and takes no modification to the gun simply a sabo 🎉 however it would be for self defense inside of your own house as well 😉
Still a canon
It’s a gun…
Shooting shot…
@@adamkerns-isley8634whatever dude, that just shows how little u actually know about 12ga shotguns. The US used em to clear trenches an the Germans cried it was a war crime. A 12ga loaded with #00 3 inch shells is devastating and ur not getting that performance from a paintball gun.
We can use steam technology to make this more effective.
$650 is Still not worth it to me
Then stop whining and don't buy one, lady...
Its not far off from certain muzzleloaders prices. The 72cal produces 1500ft/lbs. Night and day vs cleaning black powder.
Then don't buy one. But if you want a full auto option at lower price point and legality matters to you, it's certainly well worth the price.
Could you kill or incapacitate an intruder with one is my question? Or, would you just piss him off?
@@jasonbender2459 Yes. The gel I use is what the FBI uses to simulate tissue, that would be pretty devastating.
Bet the old tula choke system would work on a longer barrel on that gun.either way I'd like to hunt with one . Or a round of competition trap.
Im going to be doing a follow up with the 72 cal smoothbore barrel with choke. The big issue with this setup was that the barrel is rifled. Im dying to retry this, I might have to grab a clay thrower. lol
This video is nothing short of evidence to avoid air rifle toys and getting a real firearm. Greater reliability, usability, accuracy, range, capacity. The only thing these air rifles offer is ease of purchase. That doesn't count for much for those who have no problems passing background checks.
These give firearms a run for the money on accuracy, these are incredibly reliable too. I have 33 round mags for the FA airgun I showed in the video quickly, belt-fed is a thing too. Vast majority of people arent able to use firearms in their backyard, some people travel hours to get to a range. Theres a lot more to this than options for felons.
@@toxicmatrix1337 50 feet and terrible spread. A 410 shotgun will outperform it in every way and for less than half the cost!
@@jeffhunt5964 The spread issue was more than likely due to the barrel. I am going to be retesting with the 72 cal smoothbore and choke. If things go well, I will put it up against a 12ga. This produces 1500ft/lbs, it should be relatively close with shot. The 3 inch magnum slugs will get away from it for sure though, but the 72 cal with slugs is a monster still.
Or, and this may be controversial, just get one because they are fun. Not every purchase has to be about your ability to defend your family from the Golden Horde.
@@jeffhunt5964you clearly missed the part where you can shoot slugs out of it as well, I have a Seneca .357 big bore pcp air rifle and I run .357 (9mm) 127gr solid flat point slugs out of it and it’s fairly fucking accurate, don’t judge a big bore air rifle off the shot capsules but using actual slugs.
The idea of a big bore slug airgun is intriguing. Can you get a rifled barrel for the gun?
Funny thing, this barrel is rifled. Whoops! LOL That was probably the biggest issue here. I have a smoothbore coming to retry this, I thought that this barrel was going to be one, but unfortunately it is rifled.
Here's some shorts of this at distance.
70 yards
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100 yards
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Please note, you don’t need an FFL to purchase guns in any state unless you plan to sell the gun. The biggest problem, is some guns require you to ship to an FFL company, as some companies are with our government and don’t want you having guns without some record.
EVERY FIREARM PURCHASED IN STORE OR ONLINE SHIPS TO AN FFL. Private transactions are not included, stop spreading false bullshit
@@TheRoadhammer379 not sure what you mean. An FFL is a license to sell weapons as an arms dealer. If it is shipping to your door, then you are buying it from a dealer who has an FFL. Also, these are air rifles, which are not classified as firearms.
Can you use compressed air from a regular compressor? Or do you need something like CO2 or special compressed air?
I'm kind of interested, but it seems information is all over the place.
You need a special hand pump, a transfer tank or an HPA compressor 4500psi. Heres a video on the basics: th-cam.com/video/wNsbVu94-qA/w-d-xo.html
Not good enough for anything,
That’s false these airguns can easily take down larger game even hogs which are notorious for having tough skin.
All you have proved is that BB guns can never replace a firearm
The reason this didnt perform as well as it should have, was due to the rifled barrel. Im going to put the 72 cal smoothbore up against a 12ga at some point. This has more power than many shot loads, just needs to be setup properly. This thing sends a freight train of lead down range with the giant rounds, it hits harder than anything else I own, regardless of the ft/lb difference. The effect from the size of the projectile is like a plow.
Proven not proved, also you clearly should pay more attention or at the very least Watch more videos showcasing the power of big bore air rifles!
I just think some people are afraid to admit that these air rifles nowadays are getting pretty damn bad as and they don't like that soon they'll prob be better than a firearm.
@@poolhalljunkie9 Id already take the Gauntlet 30 over a 22lr, the accuracy is incredible, hits harder with heavy grain ammo and pretty much zero cleaning by comparison. For power sake, the Zeus with slugs... My god LOL!
Love the demo, But whats with the flys? Everywhere?
It rains a lot here, loads of stagnant water pools in the woods to spawn a ton of bugs. I have a bug bag perimeter around my yard but I think I need some propane bug catchers.
This thing is expensive AND USELESS!
Why did you click on it ?Why did you watch it ? Have you ever created anything and put it out there for the world to see , other than your crappy opinions?
It's not useless lol. The accuracy issue is more of the way the shots are staged in the shells. They'll naturally tend to veer...
This is very useful info, because I will now prefer to use a single slug...
Thx for the upload and presentation
You shorten the barrel and It’s performing exactly like a sawed off shotgun… go figure a scope became pointless
Home defense, and doesn't wake the wife n kids 😅😅
@@dominikspencer3981, ever shoot a pcp air rifle? 😂😂 they will wake up everyone in the house.
You know we need to see that full auto!!
👍👍😎
You could use some safety glasses friend especially when u fired at the GEL from close up.
@@glockumollie1230 I wore a cheap face shield in the follow up video 😂
While in Canada we have much bigger issues right now dealing with govt and our firearms every firearm gets shipped directly to our doors. A signature is supposed to be gotten sometimes they just get left sitting on the doorstep.
I do find that funny, especially since its Canada. Firearms can ship back to your home here, I sent one out for warranty work and it came back to me. Our C&R license allows purchase of 50+ year old guns to ship direct, but everything else is through a dealer FFL. Not all states require a license, but I have one. I should be allowed to order whatever I want, but that requires the dealer license, which also requires having a store.
@@toxicmatrix1337 With a C&R, you are thr FFL, for yourself.
That's an AWESOME air rifle ❤
With the 72 cal slugs, it is devastating. The shotshells need some work, but with the new barrel I have on it now, it is already so much better
Is the shotgun a modification of a 58 cal rifle? or was it purchased as a shotgun? Where was it purchased? Thank you!
Its a modification
This started as a 32 inch barrel, 72 cal slug Zeus. If you like the standard configuration, that can be grabbed at www.bluegrassbigbore.com - Free shipping if you use my promo code - Matrix
www.texomaprecisionpellet.com does custom work, they sent out the new barrel. If you are looking to customize one or buy one customized, Texoma is the place. 100% heads up though is that this ammo is still being worked on. I am going to try to fine tune some things on my own as well as trying new rounds from Texoma.
I have their 72 cal smoothbore barrel with threads for remington chokes. I grabbed some chokes to try and I am also going to play with different wads and load amounts.
The only complaint I have with the Blitz is that the 16 round magazine empties before you even finish squeezing the trigger. 30 round ain't much better.
They load pretty quickly, that swivel top is nice.
@toxicmatrix1337 The 16 round ones aren't bad. Can set those by hand. The 30 round one I have to use a socket and wrench. I heard there was a proprietary tool, but haven't been able to track it down. I do plan on picking up a few more 30 round, soon.
@@PariahTheGreek The tool is in the stock.
@@toxicmatrix1337 Of the rifle? Can you be more specific? I can't seem to locate it.
@@PariahTheGreek on the right side, near the butt end of the rifle. Should just have to rotate it and it comes out.
Dude you can make a 12gauge zip gun for 20$ in plumbing parts and a screw and some JB weld that will destroy that thing
This puts out 1500ft/lbs of energy, stacks slugs on top of one another at 100 yards. This was a test with shotshells, its in development. New barrel already groups 10x as tight at 50 feet. Wads, loads and choke are next to test.
Full auto! All the time yes!
👍👍😎 Excellent
Pretty cool! Powerful too!
👍👍With the new barrel it is so much better now.
That's pretty nifty, shipped to the door for 650? Please clarify if the pressurized air can remain in the tank within the not a firearm device you are using? Can it be left for weeks / months without leakage?
Subscribed and looking learn more as you get the proper functionality of it sorted out.
The Hatsan Blitz is all over the place for prices. Best sale is 650 but average is around 800 right now, off sale it could be 1000. You want to have these stored with at least a couple thousand PSI, they should hold no problem. If it doesnt maintain pressure, a seal needs to be replaced. The 72 cal smoothbore barrel is coming soon, Im looking forward to retrying this, hoping for much better patterns. The slugs through this are monsters.
Great video! So, I’m just guessing here, but the green plastic retainers for the shot shells may not have enough of a shot cup? Whadda ya think?
Thank you! I think if I get a new barrel and choke setup, the shot amount would probably be sufficent. Its hard to tell with how much spread it has. Initially, I thought the barrel was a smoothbore, but it ended up being rifled. The company that sent it makes a smoothbore kit for the 72 cal, thats probably the biggest issue with it at the moment.
a 25 foot hall in your house, most hoses have shorter than 25 foot halls
Will these guns hold a charge for several days or weeks without damaging it?
@@stuwest3653 You want to keep these charged after the initial fill. If they go back to empty for an extended amount of time, it may leak when you charge it back up. Once filled, they should maintain pressure, if it doesnt a seal needs be replaced, a gauge or bleed screw needs tightening. If it still leaks after that, it would need to be serviced.
@@toxicmatrix1337 Thats good news for those that want to use this for home defense. Thanks.
@@stuwest3653 👍👍
Cool Gun...
Thanks for the demo!
👍👍I am hoping for much tighter patterns in the follow up video!
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There may be a time when a wide pattern is needed 😀
Have a blessed day brother 🪶✨
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@@revelationakagoldeneagle8045 You as well!
When you said it spreads like the governor, I was wondering who that was. Then I realised there must be a weapon by the same name.
lol
If you upgrade to helium you can get 25%-40% increase in power. See the 82 cal helium beast; it's easy to find the videos.
i dont wanna be that guy but your 10 an 12 feet are more like 15-20 unless the camera is playing tricks on me. still an amazing shotgun, thanks for showcasing
Its the lens I use, very wide angle. Sometimes I watch later and 2nd guess myself but its the lens lol